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Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Channing Frye
Now let's get this party started.
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so a free agent move. So Milton Williams, the best defensive tackle on the market. And there are a lot of GMs in the NFL that believe defensive tackles are more valuable than rush ins. That is kind of a two to three year trend. So Milton Williams, he goes to the Patriots now. He had five sacks last year from an interior position. He's the best defensive tackle on the market. Now they're going to pay 26 million a year. That's an overpay, right? He's probably worth 6, he's probably worth 18. But they have so much cap space and they've been very prudent with their previous moves. I don't have a big problem with it. I and also I think it fits Vrabel's profile. Okay? Vrabel's a tough guy. He wants physicality. You start looking at the moves. Linebacker, defensive tackle, number two corner, veteran tight end. He not wasting money on stuff he's doing in between his tackles toward the football. So Milton Williams lands in. Mike Garofalo is breaking that thing. Garofolo, nice job, Mike. Milton Williams, bit of an overpay, but again, when you have like 200 plus million and you're going to overpay, there are worse positions to overpay than defensive tackle, left tackle, quarterback. You're going to overpay. You're not going to get a value proposition on every single guy that you get. So, I mean, New England now there was a young defiant sportscaster who said New England would be the most improved team in the NFL this year. Oh, I forgot. That was me. And they have just found six starters and counting. I like their moves. With that Channing fry boy, he's enlighten the world on fire world throwing haymakers. Who getting all these haymakers?
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Channing Frye
No, I'm just trying to defend my young guys, man. Just trying to defend my young guys. You know, I'm on social media all the time, like just seeing what's going on and these conversations are kind of getting wild and I'm like, man, we bashed the league, but we're not really Watching the league. There's so many great things about the league. And I was just like, dude, why are we constantly going back of like, well, this isn't this and this isn't that. And I'm like, man, take the time to look at like, some of the great stories and some of the best stories this year are obviously okc. The Lakers are a great story, but one story that nobody's really talking about. The Pistons didn't win 14 games last year. I know, this is wild. You didn't think we were going to talk about this? Like, the Pistons were a joke last year and if you watch them, they are beating everybody.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Channing Frye
Like, let's talk about these young teams. And you know, I think we want the league to be simpler and a superstar league. This, this generation, this new era is not superstar league anymore. Like, you gotta have a full team. Look at Boston. They're a team.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Channing Frye
OKC is a team. A complete team.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Channing Frye
You look at the Cavs, the complete team. So for me, I was like, let's talk about that.
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Colin Cowherd
Right?
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Channing Frye
We want players growing up to play and be a part of a team. And now teams are being rewarded. We've had seven different champions in seven years, but we don't talk about the parody of the NBA. And this year it's a crapshoot who might win.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, honestly, you know what I think's happened? I think that the league is so global and so talented. There used to be, to me, there used to be a huge gap between like Magic and mj and then.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, for sure.
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Colin Cowherd
As a gap, I don't feel there's much of a gap. I mean, I think Jokic is the best player. And then I think you get about nine guys, SGA, Giannis, Luca, LeBron, Steph Tatum and all good. I think it's like the PGA Tour, you know, back years ago, it was Jack or maybe Tiger. And those are. Those are historically unbelievable players. Now, what's the difference between Rory McElroy and the 16th player? Like, they're all good. They can all along off the tee. So I watched NBA all weekend. I loved it. I will say this. I'll start with this. I'm going to give SGA the MVP for two reasons. Primarily, he's got a younger roster. And you know, this playing with kids is harder. And his number two player, Chet Holmgren is hurt a lot. So he is babysitting offensively on a lot of nights. Secondly is the team's much better. I could also say 30 is a much better defender. But I don't think it's best player. Otherwise Michael would have more than five MVPs. I'm going to go SGA. What say?
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Channing Frye
You know, I agree with you. I feel like Jokic is this generation's best complete offensive player. I think you look at when he's on the court and they're plus minus. I think it's historically the best ever and it's also the worst ever. Right. And that's on Denver. So I don't want to take that away from from Jokic. But when he's not playing, they are not good at all. But when SGA doesn't play, this team is still elite.
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Colin Cowherd
True.
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Channing Frye
I think SGA anchors one of the best, if not the best defense in the NBA. I think to me that gives him the edge and I'm glad you brought it up because the best player is not always the mvp. This is SGA season. Being in the MVP last year, being in it this year. His growth, he's gotten better from last year. He's added something to his game this year and for him, his teammates get to eat off the plate and he still averages dang near 40 points. Right. Shooting efficiently. I think Jokic is absolutely amazing, man. I just feel like they've taken things away and he said, okay, I'll step up. But this is SGA's year.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Channing Frye
This is just his year.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. No. And that I think it's well stated. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Channing Frye
No, I think. And it's going to be a long winded answer. 1. I think Luca was a shock of getting traded, and I think it messed his swag up. Getting traded like that in the middle of the night. You know, getting snatched up. Like the bad kids going to bad kid camp. You know, how they wake them up and, you know, with a bugle and. And send them out. I think Luke is now getting his swag back. You know, weather bronze groin is out a week or two weeks. I think this is going to be great for Luca because the. In the second part of this is the Boston Celtics took that game very serious. Like, I can't remember a game where Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown played 40 plus minutes. Yeah, like, they took that game very serious, and I love to see that from them. But I think it showed the Lakers, which they wanted to, that Lucas still needs. He might be a six, give us an eight. Eight and a half before the playoffs. And now Braun being out, this is going to be great for him because he's going to. He plays just like Braun. But now he's going to have to do this for longer. He's going to have to get this team going. For me also, the Boston Celtics defensively are a lot. They are a lot.
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Jonas Knox
And.
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Channing Frye
And to be in that type of condition, imagine you start off with Derrick White on him, then you have Jaylen Brown on you, then you get Drew Holiday on you, then you get Jason Tatum on you, and then those five or six other possessions, you got Al Horford sending you to one of those guys. So the Boston Celtics are a great team, but this is going to be interesting to see how he gets his. His umph back, where he gets his swag back, where he gets that attitude back. Like, I want to see a couple technicals. I want to see, you know, Luka cussing out the refs. Like, I want to see a little bit of that back in these next two weeks.
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Colin Cowherd
As a guy that played in the NBA for 13 seasons, smart veteran guy, respected. I watched Steph, so I was a huge proponent. My take on the Jimmy Butler trade, I'm like, just get him in the building. I Steph's on a treadmill to nowhere. He's an all time legend. He's bored out of his mind, but even I am surprised. He went from 22 a game to 30. He's averaging seven more points with one more shot. Are you surprised at, like, it's a. He's a different player than he was a month ago. Are you shocked at all?
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Channing Frye
Shocked, Shocked. I, I didn't think it would happen so quickly. I just. Let's, let's take Jimmy Butler, what he does, off the court, out the way. The dude is a savant and I, and I just, it's amazing when you watch him, he's so dang efficient, like, and he just makes the right play every time. And when you see Steph with the smile, when you see Steph doing the good night, when you see him running around more, that's dangerous for the league. Like, that is not fun to play against. And now you have two guys, Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler, who are making everyone better. And then when things start, like when teams start to go on runs, Jimmy's like, hold on, guys, I got it. I'm going to get to a free throw line. The craziest status. Jimmy, I think, is fourth in free throws attempted. And he's only been there 11 games. Like, that's how much he gets to the free throw line, slows the game down, allows Golden State to get their defense set. And offensively, he just like, oh, you're open.
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Jonas Knox
Boom.
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Channing Frye
Open play was the average in like 17 on nine shots. Like, it's, it's wild to see how that, how that went. Now I see underneath this little thing it says, are they title contenders? I would never say no, but I'm going to say they are not who you want to match up with in the first round. Yeah, like, you don't want their match up in the first round. And if they get steamrolling in the West, I think it's anybody's. I know OKC is great and people are going to get mad, but I think in the west, if one team gets hot or there's a weird injury, I think anybody could take it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the. I want to end with this. So I've said I take a lot of heat for my Jason Tatum takes. And I. And it's funny because. And I always say, listen, he's a great player. Like, you can argue he's. I think you can start at about the fifth best player in the league. And from that point on, you can win the argument. I'd probably have him sixth, but he was great Saturday night. But I've said this before, there are players in the league that retirees like Karl Malone, great all time player, and we don't talk about him. And then there's guys like Magic and Bird and Dr. J or Michael Shaq we're going to talk about in 20 years from now. So, like, I, I like Tatum a lot. I think he literally fits on everybody's team, but I just don't see him as face of the league guy. How does it land for you?
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Channing Frye
Yeah, I just think Jason Tatum, we're bored with his greatness. He came in the league and he was great. He's gone through his ups and downs. He finally wins. He wins a gold medal and we, he does everything. And we want to talk about how he set the bench for the Olympics. Right. I think Jayson Tatum is this version of Tim Duncan. Like, he just goes about his business. He wins. His team is great. We never hear about anything he does in the media. Also, he addresses like the fact that he's getting 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 assists a game now. He's not settling for step backs. He's going downhill. So everything that we say, oh, that's what they need to do to win, he's doing this. His playmaking has gotten so much better. I think his leadership has gotten better. Meaning not necessarily being a hoorah guy, but knowing time and score. Jason Tatum is a great, great player. He's just not, he's not a media darling. He just wants to go hoop and go home and do his thing. And, you know, the fact that he's on the Boston Celtics doesn't help. You know, you're going to get roasted. It's either you love the Celtics or you like the rest of the league. Like, it's just a fact. But when Jayson Tatum is done, we're going to have real conversations whenever he retires in a long, long time from now about where he is on that list of greatest Celtics. Because what he has done from the time he's got there has been unreal for a young kid like this. And it's exciting to know. What is he, like, 26?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, 27. 27, I think. Yeah. Like what?
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Channing Frye
He's 27. This is ridiculous. He's what, nine years in the league? He's 27 and he hadn't even hit his prime yet. And that's what's even scarier.
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Colin Cowherd
You do great work chanting Fry.
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Channing Frye
Thank you. I appreciate that.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you're. We're all we get into the, you know, the May and June stuff. And if you're ever in la, you live in Portland now, don't you?
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Channing Frye
Yeah. Yeah, dude. I'll pop my head down. That's nothing but a quick little Alaska flight.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right. You're flying the right airline out of Portland. Good seeing you, my man.
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Channing Frye
Good seeing you, too. Thank you.
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Colin Cowherd
Ah, Channing Fry. Good dude knows his stuff and I love that. Oh, look at this. Holy moly. Sam Darnold, 3 years, $110 million Deal with the Seahawks. So again, look at the number. Three years, 110 million. Was that 34? 33 and a half. I'm not good math. What have we got, about 35 million a year? 35 and a half. 36. So he's six months younger than Joe Burrow, five months younger than Lamar Jackson, a year younger than Josh Allen, and you get him for 35, 36 million bucks. He got a Baker Mayfield contract. Sorry for butchering the math. He got a Baker Mayfield contract. I'm totally comfortable. You know, Gino wanted 10 million more than this, and I think Darnold's better than Gino. Maybe not by a lot, but he's better. And he's also in his prime. You know, Gino is a young. What is he, 33, 34? Sam is younger than many of the elite quarterbacks in the league. So I'm telling you, I. I think John Snyder is a really effective gm. He's like, we like Gino. We don't like the number. We like Darnold. We like the number. We've been saying this for six months. Sam coming back west, South Carolina, San Francisco. Now he's with the Seahawks. This is a good number for Sam. Same thing. They like DK Metcalf, but they got a pick and they didn't want to pay him. What? What? DK Metcalf. 31 million a year. So they got a quarterback for slightly more than DK Metcalf would have cost him. That's good GMing. I mean, DK was 31 million. This guy's 35, 36 million. And he touches the ball every offensive snap, and he's still in his prime and he doesn't cause any headaches. So, I mean, let's see. Yeah, basically Sam signed a deal that is basically a salary cap adjusted version of the contract Gino got in 2023. A very reasonable contract. So you're seeing really good GMing and very weird GMing today. Love what the Patriots are doing. Love this move by John Snyder. I Like what they did in Tampa. I love what the Chicago Bears did, which is shocking to say that. So there's been some very good GMing.
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Jonas Knox
So, Colin, essentially with 55 million guaranteed to Darnold, this is a two year deal.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Jonas Knox
At 27 million.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Jonas Knox
I know that everybody wants to see 110 million. Gosh, it's really 55 mil guaranteed for two years. That's what it is.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
And at 27 million years, that's pretty good.
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Colin Cowherd
That's a. That's, that's the Baker.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, it's going to be good, but they're going to be like a.500 team at best.
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Colin Cowherd
Be very careful with.
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Jonas Knox
Go ahead, go ahead. Put them in Patriots territory if you want. Go for it.
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Colin Cowherd
I have them battling the Niners for number two in the division.
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Jonas Knox
You can't win them all, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, last year I almost did. You gotta be honest. All right. What a show. So much fun. Better go buy my Seahawk jersey. Live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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Channing Frye
Whoo.
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Colin Cowherd
I am so. Here we go, J. Mac. Oh, you have it in your update. I'm going to let J. Mac take this. He's going to have a nervous breakdown.
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Jonas Knox
Stop it.
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Colin Cowherd
So Sam Darnold's deal is only 100 million, not 110. So that's even better for the Seahawks. I mean, they got a deal with Sam Darnold. It's less than Baker's contract.
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Jonas Knox
I will say some people have pointed out how bad the offensive line is in Seattle. If you look at the guys last year, Cross played well, but other than that, across the board, it was a poo poo platter, to put it best. So good luck to Sammy D In Seattle with JSN a couple other receivers.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, come on.
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Jonas Knox
No offense. A solid tight end. The running back, Kenneth Walker's always hurt.
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Colin Cowherd
Walker, he's good.
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Jonas Knox
That's a six or seven win team at best.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, J. Mac, he's getting a little snarky with the news.
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Channing Frye
No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
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Jonas Knox
All right, so we're Going to start with the Patriots because they've been in the the cellar for a few years now. They're coming out. Look at all these signings. They had all the cap space. Mike Vrabel's the new coach and they have been on a spending spree. Colin, they are going crazy. Like when you go to Vegas as a young guy for the first time, you just gambling. You're out of money in like two hours. You're just spending. Look at what the Patriots have done. Milton Williams, they get him from Philly to anchor the middle of the defensive line. A four year deal. Carlton Davis will play number two corner opposite all the young superstar.
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Colin Cowherd
So many of these like are defensive tough guy position.
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Jonas Knox
Look at that. Harold Landry's coming off the edge. Spillane, a tough linebacker in the middle. He's kind of bounced around the league but I thought he was good in pitch.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he's a good player.
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Jonas Knox
Morgan Moses will be there, right tackle. And then Austin Hooper was resigned to be like their number two or three tight end. Listen man, they're not going to be terrible. I'm not saying they're making the leap like you are, but they are on the uptick and you got Rabel as a good coach.
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Colin Cowherd
Looks like my predictions.
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Jonas Knox
Rounding in the form, you got Drake May. Who you buying for the next three years, Drake May or Sam Darnold?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Drake May I think is. I think Drake May with Vrabel is going to be really, really interesting. I also don't think you have Kyle Shanahan in your Division and Sean McVeigh. That's no fun.
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Jonas Knox
It's a great point. All right, now let's get to the better team in the nfc. I'm sorry, the AFC East. And that's my New York Jets. They have just connected with Justin fields on a 2 year 40 million dollar deal. Put the siren on the screen. The jets have a quarterback. I don't totally know how I feel about this yet. I need some time to process it.
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Channing Frye
Right.
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Jonas Knox
30 mil guaranteed for Justin Fields. It's pretty clear Pittsburgh was not willing to make him their number one starter. Right. And the jets said come on down. We've got nobody in the quarterback room. It's your show. Justin Fields will quarterback the jets on a two year deal.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, he's reuniting with Garrett Wilson.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, that's right. Good call. I forgot about that Ohio State guys.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, I just did my AFC predictions during the break.
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Jonas Knox
You banged out all the divisions.
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Colin Cowherd
Just afc.
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Jonas Knox
So where are the Jets?
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Colin Cowherd
Fourth place.
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Jonas Knox
What? How many Wins.
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Colin Cowherd
I didn't do wins yet. Okay, I have my seven playoff teams as of this morning for next year. Buffalo. New England in the AFC East. Baltimore, Solely Baltimore in the AFC North.
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Jonas Knox
No. Bengals?
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Colin Cowherd
Nope. Come on. Oh, wow. Chargers win the division. Kansas City, wild card.
- [32:07]
Jonas Knox
Like that.
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Colin Cowherd
And Tennessee and Houston.
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Jonas Knox
Tennessee. Wow.
- [32:11]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I'm gonna go. I think I like Tennessee.
- [32:13]
Jonas Knox
Well, they gotta get Cam Ward first.
- [32:14]
Colin Cowherd
Well, nobody has. Also, nobody has film on Cam Ward the first until Thanksgiving. You're just kind of guessing what Cam Ward can do. Nobody's seen him play. Like C.J. stroud's rookie year. You're like, all right, here we go. So, I mean, it's gonna take the. It always takes the league one off season to figure you out. That's why You've heard of the sophomore slump for quarterbacks. So Cam Ward's going to surprise a lot of people. Jaden Daniels. It's like. Honestly, it wasn't until, like, Philadelphia, where it felt like a team kind of figured it out.
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Jonas Knox
So you have the Broncos dropping out, huh?
- [32:44]
Colin Cowherd
They're. They're my toughest team to figure out because the division's so good.
- [32:48]
Jonas Knox
Steelers dropping off. No surprise. So, just to revisit, Jets Justin Fields. Are they, like, an exciting team, an interesting team? No, they're nothing.
- [32:58]
Colin Cowherd
No. New York football stinks, period. Sorry.
- [33:02]
Jonas Knox
All right, well, we won't make this a Jetso this fall. I know. The audience is going to be crestfallen. Final story, Collins to the NBA, where the Mavs continue to circle the drain after that Luka ad swap. It's starting to feel like the team is cursed. Fans have been upset with Nico Harrison since the deal, but the aid. But Anthony Davis tried to calm everybody down with this interview on Saturday. Get ready for this, Colin. You know, I know who I am as a player. You know, I'm top 75 of all time, you know, and I just want.
- [33:29]
Colin Cowherd
To let the Dallas fan know, like, I'm here.
- [33:31]
Channing Frye
Like, I got you.
- [33:32]
Colin Cowherd
I'm.
- [33:32]
Channing Frye
You know, I'm here.
- [33:33]
Jonas Knox
You know, I'm here now. So, like, I know you lost, you know, superstar Luca, but you also gained, you know, a superstar myself.
- [33:41]
Colin Cowherd
You know, he's right, by the way. I know it doesn't. It doesn't sit well with Maverick fans. He's a great player, but he just.
- [33:48]
Jonas Knox
Put himself in the category as Luka.
- [33:49]
Colin Cowherd
We're both superstars. Well, I got news for you. He's. Defensively, Luka's the worst star defender in the league. He's the best AD. So that's. That's 20, 25% of your game. It's not close. And by the way, right now he's in better shape if he was healthy than Luca.
- [34:07]
Jonas Knox
Damn.
- [34:08]
Colin Cowherd
By the way, we got stuck to talk about. Okay, Aaron Rodgers. Where's his market?
- [34:16]
Jonas Knox
So who's left?
- [34:17]
Colin Cowherd
Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Daniel Jones.
- [34:20]
Jonas Knox
But I mean, Aaron's got to be the Giants and. Right. They're the only team without a.
- [34:24]
Colin Cowherd
You think Aaron Rodgers to the Giants. That is old.
- [34:27]
Jonas Knox
Is he holding out hope for the Niners?
- [34:29]
Colin Cowherd
I think he is. If Aaron takes a small market or a small offer and Purdy gets stubborn, I'm going with Aaron Rodgers.
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Jonas Knox
Steelers, Giants or Niners.
- [34:39]
Colin Cowherd
I would take the Niners in a heartbeat. Plus, he's from the area. He's a west coast guy. Can private jet down to Malibu in an hour and 10 minutes.
- [34:48]
Jonas Knox
Shanahan and lynch want to deal with that headache. That's all he is now, a headache.
- [34:51]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, come on. He's not just a headache. He's just. He's a little bit of a moodier veteran player who's set in his ways.
- [34:57]
Jonas Knox
That's what I'm looking for, a moody veteran quarterback. Moody?
- [35:01]
Colin Cowherd
Well, I mean, it's. That's not being unfair. I think it's fair to say. I've heard that for people who played with him when he was in his prime. You know, sometimes you don't quite know what you're getting, but whatever, I don't care. He's great and he's still good.
- [35:13]
Jonas Knox
One great word that sums up Aaron Rodgers.
- [35:16]
Colin Cowherd
What?
- [35:16]
Jonas Knox
But it's inappropriate for the air.
- [35:18]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, come on. Whatever.
- [35:20]
Jonas Knox
That's. He's just. He's a jerk. Come on. That's fair. That's fair to say.
- [35:23]
Colin Cowherd
Well, no, that's not fair to say. He can be.
- [35:27]
Jonas Knox
This is family. Talk to him.
- [35:28]
Colin Cowherd
I think a lot of friend teammates.
- [35:30]
Jonas Knox
Around the league, except for Devontae, I.
- [35:31]
Colin Cowherd
Think Aaron is a little like Trump. They give off the same energy that they receive. I've known people who I wouldn't think would get along with Trump, who have gotten along with Trump. If you give Trump a certain energy, you can get along.
- [35:45]
Jonas Knox
Well, he's just trolling as a president. I mean, it's not like Aaron Rodgers is coming out. We're going to make what feelers did again. He's not going to do something like.
- [35:52]
Colin Cowherd
I think Aaron gives you the energy that you give him. And that's who I. That's. That's his personality.
- [35:58]
Jonas Knox
Would you go on a dark district?
- [36:00]
Colin Cowherd
Oh, hey, here's news for the Cowboys. They signed a long snapper. I just saw it. Cowboys just a three year deal on a long snapper. Put the party hats on. Get the balloons, Crystal. I mean the banner. Long snapper. You better be real long. They need it. All right, J. Mac with the news.
- [36:24]
Jonas Knox
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.
- [36:27]
Colin Cowherd
Okay, so I gave you my AFC playoff. This is just off the top. We still got, we still got a ways to go. So after the, after this week I will get maybe on Thursday or Friday after the guys are signed. I do like five different division predictions and I'm allowed like three changes. So I told you right now I have Buffalo and New England in the playoffs, Baltimore in the playoffs, Chargers, Kansas City in the playoffs, Tennessee and Houston in the nfc. I've got Philly, Washington. I'm going to go. Detroit wins the division. Chicago finishes second over Green Bay and Minnie.
- [37:06]
Jonas Knox
So are Green Bay and Minnesota not making the playoffs column.
- [37:09]
Colin Cowherd
Rams, Niners make it and Tampa makes it. Somebody good's not making the playoffs right now. I don't have Green Bay in. And that is not a shot that division right now. Jesus. I mean Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota. If you just took that division, just that division and built a Pro bowl offense just on the NFC north, it could compete with a league.
- [37:40]
Jonas Knox
Hold on, let me just. So the Vikings I believe won 14 games last season, right?
- [37:44]
Colin Cowherd
They're not going to do that.
- [37:45]
Jonas Knox
So okay, I. They're going to win eight Darnold worth like six wins. Come on.
- [37:51]
Colin Cowherd
No, no, Darnold's going to Seattle. I have them finishing four third.
- [37:55]
Jonas Knox
So what are they dropping to eight wins?
- [37:57]
Colin Cowherd
No, eight to nine. I think it's a very good division.
- [38:00]
Jonas Knox
And the packers you have with your boy Jordan, love who you love more than.
- [38:03]
Colin Cowherd
I think I have them winning like nine games, but I think I have Chicago Bears, the playoff team. I did not by the way, after all those moves last year I had them in fourth.
- [38:13]
Jonas Knox
That's a good call.
- [38:14]
Colin Cowherd
I have the Bears right now. Offensive coach Caleb, second year guard, center guard, elite players. I have the Bears as a playoff team.
- [38:24]
Jonas Knox
I'll tell you right. Vikings or packers, one of them's making it. They have to come on if anybody drops its alliance.
- [38:29]
Colin Cowherd
Okay, so let me, let me ask, let me think about this. How I. You have to have four minimum new teams in the playoffs. So New England would be new, Tennessee would be new, Chicago would be new, San Francisco would be new. So I'd have four new playoff teams which is by the way is San.
- [38:45]
Jonas Knox
Fran Definitely coming back to the playoffs.
- [38:47]
Colin Cowherd
Well, they have 12 draft picks.
- [38:49]
Jonas Knox
Okay.
- [38:50]
Colin Cowherd
So my. If they hit on six and Purdy's there and Christian's back and I use back, I think that's a 10 win team. I don't think it's a 13 win team, but I think it's a 10 win team. Let's not let the pendulum swing.
- [39:03]
Jonas Knox
So far, Washington's definitely coming back.
- [39:07]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
- [39:07]
Jonas Knox
Okay. Just making sure. I would agree. NFC is tougher than the afc.
- [39:11]
Colin Cowherd
It is because I'm taking Lamar Josh, Allen Mahomes, Herbert, C.J. stroud. I'm, I'm, I'm giving 10. You got to have at least four new playoff teams and it'll probably be closer to six.
- [39:23]
Jonas Knox
So who's coaching the Bengals in 2026? Because if they miss the playoffs again.
- [39:28]
Colin Cowherd
There'S no way I have him finishing.
- [39:29]
Jonas Knox
Second but missing the playoffs. Right?
- [39:31]
Colin Cowherd
Well, if you missed the playoffs in the last weekend, you're not going to.
- [39:34]
Jonas Knox
No, no, no, no, no. It's got Joe Burrow.
- [39:36]
Colin Cowherd
It's Cincinnati. They don't fire coaches. They let you play out the string. That's Cincinnati.
- [39:42]
Jonas Knox
If the Bengals and Jets called you tomorrow to ask about consulting, who's more desperate out of those two franchises right now? The jets, hoping you'd say Bengals because it sounds like you're way down on them.
- [39:55]
Colin Cowherd
I have him finishing second. I'm way down on the Steelers got.
- [39:59]
Jonas Knox
A top four quarterback in the league. They should be in the playoffs every year.
- [40:02]
Colin Cowherd
Also remember The Vikings were 9 and 1 last year in one score games. That just doesn't. That never trans. It's like the fumble stat. Like a team will fumble 28 times and recover 22. That's luck. When you go nine and one in one possession games, you go five and four, four and five the next year. So if you, you know, if you just have regression in one store games with JJ McCarthy as a first year starter, I think Minnesota at 8 to 9 wins is a realistic take.
- [40:34]
Jonas Knox
For what it's worth, I think the Chiefs were like 10 and oh in one score games last year. And I'm just telling you that offensive line that homes. Let's keep an eye on that. I think Chiefs are falling.
- [40:44]
Colin Cowherd
What a day today. It's a lot of new Sammy Darnold going to the Seahawks for a really good number man. All right, so tomorrow should I do, should I just lay it out tomorrow?
- [41:01]
Jonas Knox
I think you need to like give this some time to internalize everything. Little hot takey on a couple of these.
- [41:07]
Colin Cowherd
What war was a hot takey.
- [41:10]
Jonas Knox
How can you have the packers out of the playoffs? You basically had them in the super bowl last year. This time you love the Packers.
- [41:17]
Colin Cowherd
Last year you had Aaron Rodgers and the jets winning the division.
- [41:20]
Jonas Knox
I did.
- [41:21]
Colin Cowherd
And you're calling my comment of I love the Bears interior lineman signings as hot takey? I think Brable's making mostly smart. That's a taught takey. You know Miami.
- [41:33]
Jonas Knox
Do you have Miami?
- [41:34]
Colin Cowherd
Nope, nope, I haven't finished.
- [41:36]
Jonas Knox
NFL's tough man. A lot of good teams you have missing the place.
- [41:39]
Colin Cowherd
It's tough for a lot of people, especially the Jets. Oh, man.
- [41:44]
Jonas Knox
Justin Fields, though, that's they'll get a lot of prime time games because of just no, they won't. No, no, none.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I'm not player hating. I'm just situation hating. This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser Podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out, and you can learn more by following ot'supwithhate what's up everyone?
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Jonas Knox
It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're.
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Colin Cowherd
Going to be bringing you 40s and.
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Jonas Knox
Free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top 101, free agents will have it covered for you, with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
We live in a divided country, and.
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Channing Frye
Our media couldn't be more polarizing.
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Colin Cowherd
That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson.
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Jonas Knox
It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Each week, we hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country. And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses.
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Colin Cowherd
On just one item from the avalanche of news. Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
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Jonas Knox
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
What's up everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson. We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go. The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb. Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right? Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop.
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Jonas Knox
By to join us. Julie is pretty well connected.
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Colin Cowherd
She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.