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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and a happy New Year to you and yours. It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for calling. You can hear Lavar, myself and Brady Quinn Weekdays 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a show called Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Colin Cowherd
Today.
LaVar Arrington
Lavar and I are slanging it for three hours here as we are entering the final hour of the program here. There is a college football Playoff game that is currently taking place. Texas has a 143 lead over Arizona State. 12 minutes, 46 seconds left to go in the first half. It started out with Arizona State up three nothing, and then Texas scored, and then Texas returned to punt for a score. And now Texas is driving after just picking up a pass interference call against the Sun Devils. So if you were hoping for a close matchup in one of these college football playoff games, this one's teetering on the brink of looking like all the other ones and not being very close at all. So we will keep you posted on that. We've also got now the New Orleans Times Picayune is also reporting that the Sugar bowl is going to be postponed in New Orleans. No official word as of yet, but there are two outlets, WDSA in NBC or, excuse me, wdsu, an NBC affiliate out of New Orleans. They reported the Sugar Bull's gonna be postponed following the tragedy last night in New Orleans. And now we've got the New Orleans Times Picayune saying the same thing. So if we get confirmation on that, we'll let you know. But it does appear like at least it's heading in the right in that direction where they're going to postpone the game until tomorrow. Now, the Rose bowl is coming up later on.
Jonas Knox
Can I ask you a question?
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Before you do that.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
If, if so the game gets postponed, the winner of that game plays in the Orange Bowl.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Right.
LaVar Arrington
Yep.
Jonas Knox
The Orange bowl is next Thursday.
LaVar Arrington
Double check that.
Jonas Knox
Is there any, like, will there be any conversations in terms of what would take place, what would take place with, you know, the scheduling of the game, if that, you know, if that indeed takes, you know, if that happens.
LaVar Arrington
I don't, I don't think anything would change because you'd still have a week between games. If it plays tomorrow, you'd still have Thursday to Thursday. So I don't know that they would change anything.
Jonas Knox
I mean, is there the possibility, like, I'm, I'm, I'm looking at some, some information right now, and I'm not sure how, how real it is or, or what, but it could be. I mean, there, there could be discussions that the game is getting moved to, to possibly Houston and being played on Friday. So if that were to happen, then they would have to move the Orange bowl back?
LaVar Arrington
I don't, I mean, I don't, I.
Jonas Knox
Mean, I think that. You don't think so.
LaVar Arrington
I don't, I don't think that they. I think moving the game to Houston does make some sense if you're concerned about the security issues, but I think that those, you know, whoever wins the Sugar bowl, if that's the case, they would just have to play on short rest going into the. To the semifinal against.
Jonas Knox
I don't know, man. I don't. I don't see that being fair to the team that advances, you know, because I think it has to be a conversation about it.
LaVar Arrington
The only way you would move a game is if you absolutely had to. And I think that team, I think.
Jonas Knox
This one would kind of qualify for that.
LaVar Arrington
I think. I think the Sugar bowl itself would qualify. I don't think that they would let it impact the following week. Maybe I'm wrong, but I couldn't see that being the case.
Jonas Knox
I got it. I got to say, I believe that they would have to move it back at least a day or two. Yeah, at least. I mean, that's assuming sensibility and practicalities of making sure that the matchup is what it's supposed to be. That would. That would have to be taken into consideration.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
I mean, look, and look as. As a. As a Penn Stater, I mean, have at it. If they go. If they go. If they gonna do it on at the same amount of time, have at it. I mean, that's. That, you know, that's kind of. I feel like that's a. That's an advantage. That's. That's a un. To me. I don't feel like that's a. I just don't think that you should have. Even being a Penn State, I don't think you want to play against a team that doesn't have enough rest time in between. For. For the next game.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's a tough spot because, look, if they decided they were going to play the game tonight, there would be a pushback against it. If they pushed it back to tomorrow, there would be some people that say, well, why not just move it completely? If they moved it, then it just. It feels like they're kind of in a tough spot no matter what. And obviously, safety is paramount when it comes to all this.
Jonas Knox
So they just went for it on fourth down and got that. That bad boy, man. They have no respect for asu. It's. You know, by the way, I would.
LaVar Arrington
Also remember when you were saying Cowboy fans being obnoxious.
Jonas Knox
Yes.
LaVar Arrington
Texas fans are kind of up there as well, too.
Jonas Knox
I'll just say that's Texas. Texas.
LaVar Arrington
That's, you know, they, They're. They're. You know, they seem like they're Kind of in the same grouping, you know, with. With Cowboy fans.
Jonas Knox
I don't know them, so I will not pass a judgment. I'm not aware of. Of the, you know, the, The. The patterns of how Texas fans handle things at the college level at Texas. So I'll stay away from that. But Dallas fans, yeah, they're. They're all about, like. And I'll ask them. I'm like, name a street in Dallas or in Fort Worth. Name. Name a zip code name. Name an area code, and more often than not, they can't do it. You a fan of a. Of a team? You don't know a street name. You don't know a zip code. You don't know area code. Like, get out of here.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, they'll say, oh, the grassy knoll. Yeah, stop. Let's not get out of here. Yeah, you got to venture out a little bit. Well, look, I mean, at least Texas is doing their part. They're winning games, and they're. They're in the playoffs. Dallas Cowboys will not be a part of that. Now. You were at the. You were at the Penn State Boise State playoff game last night there at the.
Jonas Knox
Yesterday. Yes, that's why I'm. That's why I don't understand why I'm doing radio with you today. If it were. If. If you and Q were doing it, man, I would not be in here doing this show. What I am. I'm hurting so bad right now, man.
LaVar Arrington
What do you like?
Jonas Knox
A Penn State win led to a whole lot of double mascals and pineapple last night, and it just. It just got over. It just got out of control.
LaVar Arrington
How many drinks you think you had last night?
Jonas Knox
I didn't count.
LaVar Arrington
Because you haven't been drinking that much lately.
Jonas Knox
No.
LaVar Arrington
At all.
Jonas Knox
Because I've been doing my PhD. Make sure you guys check out the PhD. Weight loss. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I have not been drinking very much, and I do not recall how many I had because people just kept handing them to me. So I. I didn't. You know, I didn't keep count, and I didn't try to keep count because Penn State had won, and it was all. Was good in. In the universe for me. I got to see my son on the sideline, man. It was like I was just so happy, bro. I just let that happiness just take me to. To the mescal and pineapple.
LaVar Arrington
To the bar.
Jonas Knox
To the bar. Straight to the bar.
LaVar Arrington
How's that?
Jonas Knox
I haven't even ate. I haven't even ate. I don't even know the last time I've ate, I haven't even ate anything. I'm hungry as hell. Like, it's like all. All my priorities are all jacked up other than doing this radio show and. And making sure that, you know, we do a fine show.
LaVar Arrington
But by the way, stick city, Abdul Carter got banged up a little bit last night, huh?
Jonas Knox
Like, you know, he hurt his shoulder.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, so.
Jonas Knox
So hope he feels better soon.
LaVar Arrington
Any. Any thought to whether or not it's going to impact him next game or what?
Jonas Knox
I don't know. Just gotta wait and see. I mean, these guys are on the verge of. I mean, they're already making history with what they're doing. I tell these guys on the field, I said, everything you guys do from the moment you started playing in the playoffs, you are carving out your own space, your own legacy within the tradition of what we have represented, all of these schools. And that's another thing that, you know, maybe doesn't get enough attention, Jonas, when. When we're talking about all, like, people rather focus in on, oh, this team shouldn't be here. This team should, like, how about you focus in on the fact that these teams are. Are making history, you know? Okay, so, you know, a team has to win, a team has to lose, and there will be a loser. And to say that, oh, well, as a loser, you're. You're not. You're not touching history. These. These young men have prepared, they played, and they're touching history by playing in this. This new playoff. And. And they're being home games and. And they're being bye weeks. So, you know, I think that there's a lot to be said about the. The changing. You know, the changing environment of how many games are played and how these playoffs are taken. But this is the first time. This is the only time this will be the first time. And it feels like that. Like, it felt like that at the game. The energy of it felt like that. And, man, I really enjoyed it. I really enjoy. It felt. It's almost like each of these games are a national championship game, bro. I'm telling you, that's what it feels like. Like the energy of it, the electricity of it. It's like, this isn't. It's like every game these young men are playing in is the equivalent of the national championship game. And so to me, I was, you know, I was really, really driving home to these guys. You know, I was talking to Abdul and, you know, Kobe King and the rest of those guys just about how every single thing they do will go into the annals and the history of Penn State football. And it will always be discussed as the first time. So what you guys do with it is going to play, you know, a major role in how it's talked about and how it's discussed. It could be you went out in the first round, it could be you made it all the way to this round. It could be you won it all, you know, but whatever that is, you're going to be remembered on a different level to a different capacity than any other team that has ever took the field for Penn State. And I think that that's pretty awesome.
LaVar Arrington
It's also history for the sport. That's why when we were talking earlier about, you know, people that are complaining about the mismatches and all that, it's like, look, they'll get this thing figured out. There's going to be adj to who gets the buys next. That's already been reported that there's going to be adjustments next week to the bye weeks and everything that's involved in that. And so like it's the first year, but like the first year of something that we've never seen before in the sport. Like it used, there used to be a time where they would determine the college the national champion by voting on it. It wasn't even like you didn't play it out on the field. You voted on it. Remember, there was like a split national champion one year.
Jonas Knox
It was Miami and Washington. We were part of that too. Well, we didn't get it, but they gave, we went undefeated. Nebraska went undefeated and they gave it to Nebraska because they said it was Tommy Osborne's turn to win it. You know what I mean?
LaVar Arrington
You know, the writers and the coaches poll and like there used to be. It was such an outdated, antiquated way that they determined that. And so now we're actually getting the, to play it out and we're getting to play it out with more teams involved with an opportunity to win it. And yet people just want to complain.
Jonas Knox
Dude, this is just wish though. I wish, I wish that the bracket just consisted of the way it's your ranked on, on the polls. I really think that, like why, why wouldn't you, why wouldn't you just have it where. If it's a 12 team, if it's a 12 team playoff, then take the top 12 teams. Like I don't get it. If you're ranked, if you're ranked 1, you're number 1. Go figure. Hey, let me, let me throw an interesting concept at you, right? You got this poll. You got the AP poll and you have what, the, the coaches poll or the writers poll? Which one is ap? Coaches.
LaVar Arrington
Coaches.
Jonas Knox
Okay, coaches polls. Let's take the coaches poll. Which one's the one that's most, Most coveted?
LaVar Arrington
The AP.
Jonas Knox
Is it the AP?
LaVar Arrington
The AP before the play, before the playoff rankings? The AP's before.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. Okay. Why do you not just look at what the AP rankings are and take those teams and make that your playoff? I just don't get it if you're ranked number four, but, oh, you're not, you're not that good or your, your strength of schedule or this, that, and the other. And like, you're ranked number four.
LaVar Arrington
I, I think they're trying, they're trying to reward winning your conference is the thought. And if you're just going by rankings, there's obviously people that don't think Arizona State should be ranked higher than Texas. And Arizona State won their conference championship game, thus they would get the buy. Like, I think that's the thought. I mean, to me, you know, there's, they added like one or two more steps to the instruction manual than they probably needed to. It could have made this a lot simpler, something along the lines of what you're thinking, but instead, here we are, and you've got Boise State and Arizona State coming off a bye week and just getting shellacked currently with Arizona State.
Jonas Knox
Shelact. I mean, they, they're in the game. They held them to a field goal. They're, they're, they're competitive. It's not, they're not running away with it. This is a pivotal, this is a pivotal draft for, for Arizona State. And, and you know what? Like, they're fighting, by the way. They're showing some fight.
LaVar Arrington
Cam Scoo runs.
Jonas Knox
He's a tough dude.
LaVar Arrington
He fronts like, he's always pissed off.
Jonas Knox
He just built strong like that, man. But yeah, I mean, they're being competitive. I, listen, I, I, I don't know what's going to happen with this game today, but all I know is, is that when I look at what these guys are doing and what they have the opportunity to do, it makes me wish I could go back and do it all over again in this, this, you know, generation of playing it, you know, I, I just would love to have had the opportunity. I mean, I, I would assume we would have made the playoff every year when I was in school, you know, because you were out of it. You were out of the, the playoff had got introduced, at least the national championship game had got introduced. My last year in school. And that was when. Or maybe, maybe before. Maybe before. I'm not. I'm not sure, but I know Florida State played Virginia Tech. Was that the first one? I feel like that was the first one the college championship game could have been.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, I forget.
Jonas Knox
And that was Mike Vick and Peter Ward and Chris Wanke and those guys. Anyway, like, one loss knocked us out of contention to be able to play for that national title. One loss. You know what I mean? Like, I would have loved to. Had an opportunity to see what we could do if we made the playoffs in our team. We would have traveled well, we would have played well, and I would have loved to have been a part of something like that. So I just look at it from. I guess maybe a sentimental value of someone who used to play the game. And if you're there and you have this opportunity, man, God bless and, and enjoy it and take it in. And I, I wouldn't be listening to all of the noise like that must. That must sound crazy to these other teams that, you know out here. Like you don't belong here. You know, like, that's gotta sound crazy if you're an Arizona State player. If you're a Boise State player. And yeah, sure, it played out where, you know, Boise loss or Indiana lost, but so what? Yeah, they still played the game. They played the game, you know, and not that it just kind of bothers me, man. Like, people that don't have nothing to do with this game, like, from. From the playing it aspect. Like, you don't know what it's like to struggle. You don't know what it's like to be in the trenches with. In a. A strange. Becomes your friend. Your. Your friend becomes your brother. Like, people don't understand what that struggle is like. And then you put it in and you put the work in and you put the time in and you get rewarded for people to tell you you don't belong.
LaVar Arrington
By the way, anything you want to admit to here on the air? We're now hour three of the program, and you haven't, you haven't mentioned this. Anything you want to admit to so far? Any, like, celebrity encounters maybe at the, at the Fiesta Bowl?
Jonas Knox
I met Ralphie. Yeah. He wasn't at the Fiesta Bowl. He was at my hotel.
LaVar Arrington
You met. You met the damn kid from Christmas Story?
Jonas Knox
I met Ralphie. I met Ralphie, bro. You shoot your eye out?
LaVar Arrington
You shoot your eye out. What did you do when you saw him?
Jonas Knox
I freaked out. Cause I was drunk. I fanboyed Out.
LaVar Arrington
What'd you say?
Jonas Knox
I was like, oh, my gosh, you're Ralphie. Like, you're really him. You're really Ralphie. Like, do you understand? Like, Ralphie's almost like, in America, he's like, almost is like, he's on, like, on a list. Celebrity, like most known people. Like, think about it. You'll shoot your eye out, kid. Merry Christmas.
LaVar Arrington
What's his name? Is it Peter Billings? Is that his name, man?
Jonas Knox
I don't know.
LaVar Arrington
Peter Billingsley. Billings. Billingsley. Come on. What's the difference if you're drinking? It all sounds the same. What's your problem, Lee? Why do you have to be so correctable here on the show? Did he. So was he a nice guy, at least?
Jonas Knox
Cool dude, man. Cool dude. We talked. Cool dude.
LaVar Arrington
Was he ripping drinks too?
Jonas Knox
I. I wasn't. I was not in any condition to pay attention to, like, taking in all that information. He was just. He was a really cool dude, man. Nice guy, really cool. Real gracious dude. I was like, man, like, you do realize, even to this day, I watch you every single year. Like, you got people like Jesus, you talk about them like people talk about them every day or go to see them once a week.
LaVar Arrington
I was thinking the same.
Jonas Knox
Then you got like, name some other people, though, that really, like, they're connected. Santa Claus.
LaVar Arrington
I was thinking the same thing, man. Like, whenever I go to church, there's always like a picture of Ralphie on the Bible. Like, I was thinking the same thing.
Jonas Knox
No, no, I didn't put Ralphie on the Bible. I'm saying there are certain people throughout our history that you talk about them every. Like, some people get it every day, some people get it every week, some people get it once a year.
LaVar Arrington
I'd love to know what his royalties are. Lee, do you have. Do you know what Ralphie gets every time?
Jonas Knox
Looks like he's struggling, I'll tell you that.
LaVar Arrington
I mean, I would love to hear that. Let's go live to our. I have a thought on Ralphie's royalties. Insider. Chris. Perfect for the latest. I don't, but I did just see. I didn't realize they had made a sequel to A Christmas Story. A Christmas Story, Christmas. So, like, I know what Ralphie looks like grown up. And that's the part that's like really messing with me. So I know he doesn't look that far off. No, he doesn't. He. He looks. He just looks like a, you know, 40 year old version stretched out. Yeah. Yeah. So I know exactly the face Lavar saw Down there. Like, we work with Justin Cooper, who was the star in Liar, and he just.
Jonas Knox
And that's crazy. That's cool. He looks the same. He just looks like he smokes weed.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, just imagine. Yeah, just imagine the little kid from Liar Liar. Little kid from Liar Liar with a gambling and pot in his back pocket. He goes to, like, every Tool concert in. Yeah, he's like, you know, he hangs out at Hot Topic. He goes to the World Series of Poker every year, and he, you know, he smokes.
Jonas Knox
I mean, no offense to my boy Coop. Coop is my dog. No, no, no, listen, no shade to Coop, but this ain't even. He smoked that bud. He's eating that smoke that weed. Hey, look, though. Hey, Coop, dog, no shade. But as far as kid actors, like, I don't think anyone even comes close to touching Ralphie of Christmas Story.
LaVar Arrington
Even Macaulay Culkin, who had a great run.
Jonas Knox
Even Macaulay listening.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, Macaulay Culkin had a great run, but yeah, I would still go Ralphie from A Christmas Story all the way, bruh.
Jonas Knox
There's something like, there's just. I mean, I will say, like, like Macaulay Culkin is. He's. That's a good one. I mean, that's, that's, that's in the conversation because every single year you're going to watch Home Alone. Yeah, you're going to watch Home Alone, but it doesn't have the historical nostalgia connected to it. Like Christmas Story. Like, Christmas Story was from a different time, a different generation. Like, it really. You could feel that, that mo. Like, there were so, so many signature movement moments. Like. Oh, yeah. Like there was so the, the kid getting in, getting his tongue caught on the, on the light. Light pole. Like, there were so many signature moments in that. The little boy, the little boy running with his, with his snow suit on. You can remember those snow suits. Did you have? Well, you. You wouldn't remember that, but people like us, from the cold, we remember running around in them snowsuits when it was cold outside. Like, bro, you had to wear a snow suit like that to go to school. You imagine that you had to peel yourself out of that snow suit to go just sit in class and be in class. Like, not burning up because you got a snow suit on. Then you got to put it back on. You got to put it back on when you leave. Like, it took you back to a time a day in a place where it was just, you know, I don't know. Just amazing, man. So, yeah, I met Ralphie. I met Ralphie that's awesome. That's pretty cool, man.
LaVar Arrington
Lee, any update on how much he made? You can't get a hold of that guy's W2S. We're not asking for a lot here.
Lee
Apparently a lot of people ask that question.
Colin Cowherd
No.
Lee
Cannot find the royalties. But I do do know his net worth, which is around $12 million.
LaVar Arrington
Nice. Good for him.
Jonas Knox
Good for him. Awful. One movie and that's probably like that. 12 million is probably like you break that down, you know? I don't know, man. Yeah, I don't know. He's. He's collecting every single. He's like Mariah Carey.
LaVar Arrington
Oh, yeah.
Jonas Knox
He's collecting every single year.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, he's probably a better singer than Mariah at this point, too.
Jonas Knox
I met that dude. I met that dude last night. I totally fanboyed out, man. I met that dude last night, bro.
LaVar Arrington
Sounded like Iowa. Sam in the stall. It is the Herd here on Talk sports radio. Damn. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for call. Coming up next year though, we are going to tell you about a surprise name that all of a sudden is a hot commodity on the coaching circuit in the National Football League. That's yours here on fsr. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iPhone.
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LaVar Arrington
It's the Herd, Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington Jonas Knox in for Colin so it is official, the breaking news that is just dropped a couple of moments ago. The Sugar bowl has been postponed officially. That according to Sugar Bowl Committee CEO Jeff Hundley, who announced that the Sugar bowl will not be played tonight. It will be played tomorrow, obviously on the heels of the tragedy and the the what they are calling a terrorist attack there in New Orleans. So that is the the announcement that has just been made. So Notre Dame, Georgia will not be played tonight, it will be played tomorrow. So the currently the Peach bowl is going on and after that it'll be the Rose Bowl. Texas by the way up 17 to 3 over Arizona State right now, first half winding down, but there will be no Sugar bowl. And I think the right decision to go ahead and postpone it to tomorrow so not, not overly surprising would have been probably surprising had they kept the same start time. There was a report that they were going to delay it an hour or something like that initially, but I don't know what the extra hour would have done. So they're just going to go ahead and and play that game tomorrow. Still going to be kind of an aw and unfortunate situation because you're it's still going to be so fresh in everybody's minds, what happened, the tragedies. But you know, the game, the game goes on and it'll go on a day later than normal. So that'll be, that's the announcement of, made official over there in New Orleans. So tough situation, tough situation for everybody involved, but safety again is paramount and they want to make sure that they're, they've got everything secured before they go ahead and play a football game. So especially with the super bowl coming up there in a couple months or next month.
Jonas Knox
So go figure, right? I mean now that's going. You got to assume they gonna pull out all the stops on what that pre. Oh God. Oh yeah. And then, not to mention what that's going to be like for, you know, us like the media and everybody, once, once that comes around, like they ain't gonna play no games with that.
LaVar Arrington
I mean, man, like, like the Super Bowls we go to, you've gotta like there's a lot of security every single time, like every time you go to. So it's not like, I mean you get your one press credential, but every morning that we go there, you've got to go through security, you've got to get everything checked. You've got to, I mean they do a full on check to where you're at the airport and after this it's going to go, there's going to be bomb sniffing dogs, there's going to be like all sorts of stuff there. So you know, with this stuff going down and then the super bowl, which by the way, I can't believe it's a little over a month. I think what, 38 days is the time flies, man.
Jonas Knox
Jeez, dude, time really flies, bro. It really flies. Yeah, man. But again, thoughts and prayers. Don't want to, you know, understate how, how heartbreaking and, and just gut wrenching it is to hear that type of horrific news come out of, of the situation and just, again, just positive thoughts and, and, and prayers to, to all what took place, man. It's just. Yeah, just, you know, man.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, terrible. Terrible.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it's just terrible, man.
LaVar Arrington
So it is the herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up here in about 15 minutes from now. He's one of the all time greats. He's pulled off an amazing feat in the world of football and the proof is in the numbers. We've got that for you in the next edition of the Herdline news here again 15 minutes from now. So, so we'll keep you posted on what's happening between Texas and Arizona State. It is under a minute left to go in the first. Yeah, we did have a fake punt there. So Arizona State is pulling out all the stops to try and stay in this game and keep.
Jonas Knox
Well, I mean, come on, Jonas, give them a little. If they get in right here. It's 10, 17. They're down by a touchdown.
LaVar Arrington
Hey, listen, I'm not forks up or horns up or horns down. Either way, I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. Whatever.
Jonas Knox
Not horns. Dang. And there's no, you know, the devil horns.
LaVar Arrington
No, no, not that. No.
Jonas Knox
I mean. Oh. Oh, the big horns. Yeah, the big rig horns. That's what you talking about. Geez.
LaVar Arrington
That's what you is.
Jonas Knox
That's gonna be a new one right there.
LaVar Arrington
The horns.
Jonas Knox
Big horns. Little horns. Medium horns. Big horn.
LaVar Arrington
You go big horns. You got problems, man.
Jonas Knox
No, I don't.
LaVar Arrington
Can so.
Jonas Knox
Big horns.
LaVar Arrington
All right. Well, that being said, there is a couple of big rumors that are out there when it comes to the coaching searches in the NFL. So Mike Vrabel is obviously the big name out there. He's the guy. Especially with Belichick going on to North Carolina. Now, whether or not Belichick and that very workable and doable buyout is impacted this early in the. In the process, can't imagine it would. But who knows? According to Tony Pauline, who's an NFL reporter, he says that Mike Rabel wants the Patriots gig. Like, that is. That is the job that he wants. Of all the jobs that are there now, Gerard Mayo currently has that gig.
Jonas Knox
I was about to say that. Is that available? Dang.
LaVar Arrington
Well, here's. Here's why it wouldn't be that surprising. Gerard Mayo has stepped in it multiple times this year in describing his team.
Jonas Knox
Oh, man. Like, throttle down on him.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. And. And then had to backtrack. Like, you know, he. You know, he's in training camp, and he's saying, yeah, you know, like, Drake Mays outplayed Jacoby Brissette. Like, so why isn't he the starter? Like, didn't make any. Like, he just would openly say that. And then he called his team soft at one point, and then he. There's just been multiple times that there's been questionable commentary from Gerard May I. I find it hard to believe that Robert Kraft would just go away from Gerard Mayo if he was the heir apparent to the guy that Robert Kraft couldn't wait to get rid of. And if. If Mike Vrabel was available last year, why didn't they Just hire him last year.
Jonas Knox
Right. Because he was available.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. So that's why, like that part of it doesn't. Doesn't make any sense.
Jonas Knox
I agree. And so that's a great point, Zona.
LaVar Arrington
Like I just. And the only. The pushback on that would be. Well, it was already announced that Gerard Mayo was going to be the guy. Okay. So if he's the parent, then why would you move on from a year later? Like.
Jonas Knox
Right.
LaVar Arrington
Unless it was just a complete disaster and it's been awkward, but I don't think it's a complete disaster. Drake may does look like he can play a little bit. Like he does feel like, you know, there's some potential there.
Jonas Knox
So I mean, I wouldn't believe. I wouldn't put too much stock into thinking that Vrabel is holding out for the Patriots job. I think Gerard Mayo will be back and I think Mike Vrabel will weigh out and measure his. I think he has to be very careful and what his next decision is as head coach, you know, and that's something that has to be taken into serious, serious consideration, you know, and, and, and for what it's worth, that man's coaching career is basically on the line. You know, there's not very many, I don't know the number, but it's not very many times that a head coach in the National Football League goes on to a third or fourth opportunity to coach a team. So I just. He's got to be careful in what he's doing, man, and what decision that he makes because this could in essence mark the last time he has that opportunity to even be a head coach in the National Football League.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, it's. Yeah. Because I mean, how many, you know, how many times do you get that third opportunity? Unless, you know, Lovey Smith did. But that didn't exactly go well.
Jonas Knox
Not at all. That was short lived. And, and how many times has he been talked about as being a head coach candidate since then? Not since Houston. Right? Yeah, gone. Like gone forever. Because he knows it's gone forever. Who's going to hire you if you haven't been able to get it done and all those opportunities. Why should somebody else? But that's why I have a weird feeling like I had. I get this weird feeling on, on retrack coaches to begin with. I don't get that. If you're not a coach that has shown that you win Super Bowls, why do you get other opportunities to be a head coach? Keep trying to find the coach that's going to take, take a Guy to take, take a team to, to the super bowl, keep moving on. Like, what are you, like, for the longest time, it's like, this coach gets fired. He goes over here. This coach got fired from there. He goes over here, this coach got fired over here. Go be offense coordinator. Now he's a head coach. Again, this coach got fired over here. Now go be a defense coordinator. Hey, be a defensive backs coach. Oh, he's a quarterbacks coach. That. I don't get it. If you ain't led a team to the super bowl and you ain't showed that you could be a Super bowl caliber coach, what are you getting more opportunities for? It doesn't make sense to me.
LaVar Arrington
You know, speaking of a Super bowl winning coach, the other name that could potentially pop up on some, some lists because apparently teams are kicking the tires on is John Gruden. That according to Tom Pelissero who said that, you know, some teams are doing their due diligence. They're kind of investigating and looking into whether or not Jon Gruden could be a possibility this time around. I mean, it did feel like he was having the Raiders at least heading somewhat in the right direction. And then all of a sudden, you know, some emails came out and some not so nice things were said about certain people in the NFL. And the next thing you know, Jon Gruden was gone. But it does.
Jonas Knox
I mean, what direction were they going in? Like you said, a great direction. Where was that team at when he, like, when all that happened? Like, what was their record the year before?
LaVar Arrington
I believe they were three and two when he got clipped. And I think the year before they were 8 and 8, if I'm not mistaken.
Jonas Knox
I'm not like, ain't nobody again. I must, I'm a double down on what I just said. Like, yes, he did win a Super Bowl. Yes, he, he was a good coach at one point in time. That man has been removed from the game for a little while now.
LaVar Arrington
Damn.
Jonas Knox
He's been removed for a little while. Why aren't you looking for newer coaches? Like, newer coaches?
LaVar Arrington
Damn.
Jonas Knox
Like, like, let's do away with all these old head coaches, man. I'm sorry, and I don't, I'm not trying to sound like a hater. I'm just saying if you're not, if you're not an Andy Reid, if you're not like a Sean Payton who is like, literally like was in the mix and was, was always in the mix to get these jobs and has, has really shown that he can turn organizations around and turn them into a winner. If it's not like one of them guys. What are you kicking the tires around for on, on these old retread coaches?
LaVar Arrington
Damn.
Jonas Knox
I mean that's how it is in, in, in broadcast, right? Like some guys go from station to station but at some point you start to realize there's a reason why if, if they're not a top, top ratings type of guy there or person, there's a reason why that, that mother lover lost their job.
LaVar Arrington
What are you talking about?
Jonas Knox
So Don care. I ain't saying no names. I'm just speaking just, just in general about the industries. Like, like you ain't moving the needle. What are you kicking the tires around, man? John Gruden ain't moving nobody's needle at this point in his career. Talking to he talking to your ass.
LaVar Arrington
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Foreign it's the Herd, FOX Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. You can hear LaVar, myself and Brady Quinn weekday morning, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 Pacific on a little diddy called Not. I mean, it's, it's a phrase. I don't like that. It's a phrase.
Jonas Knox
What?
LaVar Arrington
You know, a little, a little jingle.
Jonas Knox
Hey, Mac. No, bro, no, that's a real thing.
LaVar Arrington
That's a term.
Jonas Knox
Well, do away with it. All right. Run that back. Do it again. Do it again.
LaVar Arrington
So you can hear Lavar, myself and Brady Quinn weekday mornings at 6:00am Eastern Time.
Jonas Knox
There you go. There you go.
LaVar Arrington
On our little shindig called Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Never heard of here on Fox Sports Radio. So there is.
Jonas Knox
What about on Saturdays, though? What about Saturdays? Is there something that goes on on Saturdays?
LaVar Arrington
Radio On Saturday you can hear lavar Arrington, TJ Husmanzada and play Plexigo Burris on Up on game from 9 to 11 Pacific time. And that is.
Jonas Knox
And then what happens after that?
LaVar Arrington
That's 11am to, to 1 to 11am to 2pm Eastern time if I get my time zones. Correct.
Jonas Knox
And then after that, that's a no Diddy.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, the, the, the main event to up on Game.
Jonas Knox
The main event, yeah, when the crowd.
LaVar Arrington
Starts to arrive is the Jonas Knox show, which you can hear 2 to.
Jonas Knox
4Pm Eastern Time post show. They call it the upcorn game post show called the rap show called Jonas Knox. Like what Godly be doing our topics. You know.
LaVar Arrington
If you've missed any of this show today though.
Jonas Knox
Bang bang. All right. Just saying.
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Jonas Knox
No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
LaVar Arrington
This is the Herdline news.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
Lead to laugh. What do we got?
Lee
Well, fellas, that Alamo bowl between BYU and Colorado, the numbers are out. They apparently garnered 8 million viewers for that game, which led Deion Sanders Jr. To take to Twitter to announce this. Damn, 8 million people saw us get clapped.
LaVar Arrington
That's a lot of people, man.
Jonas Knox
That's a lot of people.
LaVar Arrington
By the way, I'll say this, there's going to be, there's a lot of Colorado haters out there. People that were rooting against Colorado at every turn, wanting it to fail and not be a success. They're going to miss them next year because if it's not the same buzz and same energy like that was one of the major talking points for at least a couple of years in college football was what Deion Sanders did in Boulder, which is why, look, yeah, he didn't win a national title there with those, with, with his son and Travis Hunter on the team. But damn, that's been a success like as far as buzz, energy, excitement at Colorado. When we were growing up, Colorado football was a big deal and it was no man's land for decades until Deion and those guys got there. So awesome for them.
Jonas Knox
You hit it right? Yeah. Good for them. And you know, the best days are ahead of them. You know, with Deion Sanders at the helm, not, not behind them. This is nowhere near the, the beginning of the end for Colorado and Coach Prime. This is, he's just getting started, people. So just why they might be better without, I hate to say it, without him having to worry about his kids, you know. So we'll see how it all goes.
LaVar Arrington
What else we got, Lee, fellas.
Lee
Bryce James, the youngest son of LeBron has made his college decision. The shooting guard and three star prospect took to social media and said 100% committed to the University of Arizona.
LaVar Arrington
How about that?
Jonas Knox
They play basketball there.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, they do.
Jonas Knox
I actually hear that this one is legit.
Lee
It's 2 inches taller than Bronny.
LaVar Arrington
What are you trying to say? The other one's not legit?
Jonas Knox
Well, he's in the NBA.
LaVar Arrington
But he got drafted.
Jonas Knox
He's legit. He got drafted. He's legit. He just ain't as legit to. Quit it. Like the older or the younger one.
LaVar Arrington
Bryce, you know you're way better than that other one.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. Dang.
LaVar Arrington
Damn.
Jonas Knox
So disrespectful.
LaVar Arrington
What's wrong with you, man?
Jonas Knox
The other one just ain't as good as the younger one got drafted. Maybe this one will really get drafted. Oh, God.
LaVar Arrington
Hard right hand by Arrington.
Jonas Knox
Hey, you're wrong, man. Leave him, boy. Live, man.
LaVar Arrington
You're up.
Jonas Knox
Let that young. Let that young man live, man. Stop being a hater.
LaVar Arrington
Damn. What else we got, Lee?
Lee
Pro bowl voting has closed. Can you guys guess who got the most votes?
Jonas Knox
I don't care. Lamar Jackson. I could care less.
LaVar Arrington
Lee, can I guess?
Lee
Yes, you can.
LaVar Arrington
Most votes for the Pro Bowl. I'm gonna say Caleb Williams. It was so funny.
Jonas Knox
Damn.
LaVar Arrington
Damn. What's wrong with you?
Lee
Well, the Swifties came in strong. Travis Kelce and his. Maybe his worst year yet, has garnered over 250,000 votes. Beating out.
LaVar Arrington
And that's why.
Jonas Knox
And they're all Swifties.
LaVar Arrington
And that's why. That's why you don't let fans have the power. That's exactly.
Colin Cowherd
They're all.
Jonas Knox
They're all Swifties.
LaVar Arrington
What a joke.
Jonas Knox
Good. Good for you, Travis. Way to build your. Your community. You did it the right way.
LaVar Arrington
That's just ridiculous. I mean, if it was up to them, the host of Double Dare would be, you know, the next guy to get a Pro bowl vote. Sick of this crap.
Jonas Knox
I mean, his girlfriend would be a pro bowler.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Sugar Bowl Postponed
Release Date: January 1, 2025
In this engaging third hour of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," hosts LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox delve into the latest developments in college football, including the postponement of the Sugar Bowl, updates on pivotal playoff games, NFL coaching rumors, and personal anecdotes that add a human touch to the sports discourse. The episode, released on January 1, 2025, provides listeners with in-depth analysis, lively discussions, and memorable quotes that encapsulate the dynamic nature of today's sports landscape.
Timestamp: 02:29 - 32:09
The episode kicks off with LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox addressing the significant news that the Sugar Bowl has been officially postponed due to a tragic terrorist attack in New Orleans. This decision was confirmed by Sugar Bowl Committee CEO Jeff Hundley, emphasizing the prioritization of safety over sporting events.
LaVar Arrington (02:44): "Notre Dame, Georgia will not be played tonight, it will be played tomorrow... safety again is paramount."
The hosts discuss the logistical challenges and potential scheduling adjustments, such as playing the game in Houston to ensure security. They ponder the fairness of teams advancing with reduced rest time, highlighting concerns about maintaining competitive balance in the playoff structure.
Jonas Knox (05:19): "I got to say, I believe that they would have to move it back at least a day or two... that would have to be taken into consideration."
The conversation also touches on the emotional impact of postponing such a high-stakes game and the broader implications for college football's evolving playoff system.
Timestamp: 02:30 - 32:09
LaVar and Jonas provide a live update on the ongoing playoff game between Texas and Arizona State. Texas holds a substantial lead, prompting discussions about the game's competitiveness and its implications for both teams.
LaVar Arrington (02:30): "Texas has a 14-3 lead over Arizona State with 12 minutes, 46 seconds left in the first half."
Jonas expresses frustration over the game's lack of competitiveness, likening it to other one-sided playoff matchups, and questions the effectiveness of the playoff system in ensuring thrilling and balanced contests.
Jonas Knox (07:01): "People don't think Arizona State should be ranked higher than Texas... they're still playing the game."
The hosts debate the playoff's current format, suggesting that it may not always deliver the excitement fans crave, especially when clear disparities exist between competing teams.
Timestamp: 32:09 - 41:18
Transitioning from college football, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox delve into the swirling rumors surrounding NFL coaching positions. The primary focus is on Mike Vrabel's potential interest in the New England Patriots' head coaching vacancy, traditionally held by Bill Belichick.
LaVar Arrington (34:19): "Mike Vrabel wants the Patriots gig... Gerard Mayo currently has that gig."
They critically analyze Gerard Mayo's performance and public statements, questioning his suitability and reliability as a head coach. The discussion extends to Jon Gruden's possible return to the NFL amidst past controversies, debating the wisdom of rehiring established yet problematic figures versus embracing newer coaching talents.
Jonas Knox (39:30): "John Gruden ain't moving nobody's needle at this point in his career."
The conversation underscores the tension between proven success and the need for ethical leadership within the league, emphasizing the importance of selecting coaches who can both win games and uphold the sport's integrity.
Timestamp: 18:09 - 25:26
Adding a personal flair to the episode, Jonas Knox shares his memorable encounter with Ralphie, the iconic character from "A Christmas Story." This lighthearted segment provides listeners with a glimpse into the hosts' lives beyond the gridiron.
Jonas Knox (19:44): "I was like, 'Oh my gosh, you're Ralphie. Do you understand?'"
LaVar and Jonas humorously recount the interaction, highlighting the lasting cultural impact of Ralphie and the nostalgic connections many fans have with the character. This segment adds warmth and relatability to the episode, balancing the more intense sports discussions.
Timestamp: 41:18 - 49:49
The hosts continue to cover a variety of sports topics, including:
Alamo Bowl Viewership:
Lee (46:10): "The Alamo Bowl between BYU and Colorado garnered 8 million viewers."
Bryce James' Commitment:
Lee (47:44): "Bryce James has committed to the University of Arizona."
Jonas Knox (48:21): "Bryce, you're way better than that other one."
Pro Bowl Voting Results:
Lee (48:54): "Travis Kelce has garnered over 250,000 votes, beating out major contenders."
LaVar Arrington (49:24): "That's why you don't let fans have the power."
These segments highlight notable achievements and decisions within the sports community, discussing their broader significance and the reactions they elicit from fans and commentators alike.
Timestamp: 49:49 - End
As the episode wraps up, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox reflect on the day's discussions, reiterating the importance of safety in sports events and the ever-evolving nature of both college and professional football. They express a commitment to keeping listeners informed with timely updates and insightful analysis, promising more engaging content in future episodes.
LaVar Arrington (46:07): "This is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio."
The episode concludes with acknowledgments of upcoming segments and a reminder for listeners to stay tuned for more sports news and lively discussions.
Sugar Bowl Postponement: A tragic event in New Orleans has led to the postponement of the Sugar Bowl, highlighting the priorities of safety over sports.
Playoff Competitiveness: The current college football playoff format faces criticism for potential mismatches, as evidenced by the one-sided game between Texas and Arizona State.
NFL Coaching Dynamics: Ongoing rumors about NFL coaching positions raise questions about the balance between experienced coaches and the need for new leadership.
Cultural Moments: Personal stories, such as Jonas Knox meeting Ralphie, underscore the enduring cultural impact of sports-related media.
Diverse Sports News: From high viewership numbers in the Alamo Bowl to Bryce James' college commitment and Pro Bowl voting outcomes, the episode covers a broad spectrum of sports topics.
This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" offers a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of current sports events, enriched by personal anecdotes and insightful commentary. Whether you're a dedicated sports enthusiast or a casual listener, the discussions provide valuable perspectives on the ever-changing world of athletics.