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Colin Cowherd
Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in this is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be making this part of your day, thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Colin Cowherd on a Friday. Hi. Think. I think the 90s were awesome. I do, I do. I, I, I think the 90s for us. And it's weird because when we were in the 90s, there's a lot of us are like, weren't the 80s better? You know, And I'm watching last night as Alabama beats byu. And I, I do understand, by the way, that statistically, if you look, you could not, you could find very little fault with how BYU played, right? If you're just waking up or you're watching major league baseball or you went to a baseball game last night, you didn't watch the NCAA tournament, let me tell you what BYU did. Okay, so BYU, 46% from the field, 80 from 80 from the line. And they got the line 20 times. They only turned it over 11 times. Now they were 6 of 30 from three point range, which is 20%. That's, that's not good enough. They had 13 offensive rebounds, which is outstanding. So they actually took one less free throw, but six more shots. Six more shots. Alabama took 66 shots. BYU took 72. Alabama was 35 of 66. That's a better percentage on fewer shots. They made 35 field goals. BYU made 33 field goals. Bama was 18 of 21 from line. BYU is 16 of 20 from the line. So it's just those as raw stats. You would go, okay, you made 18 free throws, that's two more points. You made 35 field goals. That's four more points. It was a close game. Alabama beat BYU 113 to 88. Let me repeat. They beat Alabama. Alabama beat BYU despite having more turnovers and taking only one more free throw, making two more free throws, making two more field goals. They beat them 113 to 88. And it wasn't that close. And obviously, if you like three point shots, Nate Oates, who, you know a little more than a decade ago was a high school coach at Romulus High School in, in Detroit, Michigan, then went on to be an assistant with Bobby Hurley at, at Buffalo after joining Danny Hurley at Rhode island. And then he took over at Buffalo, now he's at Alabama. And they went to the final four last year and they look like a final 14. They look like no one's beaten them last night. And Mark Sears, who's a fifth year Senior Mark Sears, who started his career, he's from Alabama from Muscle Shoals. He went to Ohio U his first two years. And again this is why the mid majors don't feel like they compete. Because Mark Sears probably wasn't good enough to play at Alabama early on. Goes and plays and has it, remains confident. Like that's a big thing, right? You go to the right level, you can play right away, you maintain your confidence. He's 10 of 16 from 3 point range. Amazing, amazing. And they end up winning 113.88. But I just, I find it really interesting that even though I love growing up in the 90s like I do, like I have nothing bad to say about my childhood but I can tell you that it's way more efficient to have a cell phone or have a smartphone where you don't have to have a computer or even those old Nokia phones or remember when you had a pay phone. Like you want to talk about inefficient. We were, I took my son last week after doing the Herd. You guys know this. I took my son to Six Flags Magic Mountain. This is his birthday. It's kind of our yearly tradition and we were getting ready to go on Scream. Scream. By the way, underrated of the roller coasters. It's kind of right in the front of the park. It's blue and red and it's not as highly touted as some others. But Stream is an outstanding roller coaster. Outstanding. Anyway, we're in line and it says, you know that you have to place your beepers and cell phones and jewelry into some little box so that you don't lose it on Stream. And my son turns to me and he says, what is a beeper? I was like, well, or maybe I said pager. Well, what's a pager? I was like, what's a beeper? What's a beeper? I was like, oh my God, you have no idea. So what a beeper is. And there's lots of people that are nodding their head like how do you not know a beeper? Like well he's 16 years old. Like I understand it blew off people's in the Middle east because if you know about that IDF story is really Defense force story and what they did with Hezbollah a couple months ago. It's pretty amazing. But then even then you had to explain what a beeper was or a pager is. So in order for someone to get ahold of you. And it started really with doctors. Yes. And drug dealers. If you watch the Wire, you could page Somebody, and then you would page them with a number to call them back. Then you'd have to go find a payphone and either find coins for that payphone or call collect, where they'd either have to say, you have a call from Doug Gottlieb, or have a call from, Hey, 714-768-2020. Call me back. Right. At which time they would then have to call, listen, to pick it up, listen, and then call you back, unless they got it on their. Their answer machine. Now, we just call you, or in. The most efficient way to get somebody to call them back at the most appropriate time is you text somebody. Call me when you have a chance. Right. The point is that I love my childhood, but we become way more efficient with our time. Isn't that the thing that. That Covid showed us? Yes. People are going back to work, and it is important to have the human interaction. But a lot of these jobs we can do from home. And if you do it from home, are there some things that you lack? Sure. But you know what you don't have? You don't have traffic. You just sit down at your desk, and you open up your laptop, and you can still face to face. You just press zoom, which we didn't even know existed before COVID or whatever other, you know, teams, whatever other device. The point is that not all efficiency is perfect. And you do need some sort of kind of human warmth and human touch and human interaction. Fact. No question. And it's not an all or nothing thing. You don't just shoot layups, free throws, or threes. But mostly. Why? Because you're trying to be more efficient. You're trying to be more efficient. In no world, in no other place, are we trying to become less efficient. Is there. Can anyone think of a job like, hey, let's be less efficient than. I mean, you're gonna go fly on a plane. What do you. Do you have the app. You know, you download the app, you type in the thing, you get a boarding pass. Otherwise, you got to go to check in, and then if you get. Get your bag, then you got to go over to the bag drop thing. Then they put the sticker on it, then they go get the bag, then you get the printed off ticket, and then you go through. Or you can just print out your boarding pass. By the way, clear is awesome. I should get some nil for clear. Go through clear. Never check a bag. Right to your app, right to the plane, get on and go. You know, I mean, look, I don't know if it's more or less expensive to get, you know, to use an app based ride, but the only difference between it and a taxi is you press the button. You don't have to tell them the address. You don't have to tell my thing. You just walk, get in your car and go. And everyone I know, don't you time it out. When I land at home, I want, I got my Uber waiting there just like, or just like I'm some big baller with a car service. And then as I'm on my way home, I usually use like a doordash or Uber eats, whatever. So I have food waiting for me as soon as I get home. Why it's all about efficiency. I don't want to cook and clean. It's not just the work. It's like it's such an inefficient thing. Time is money. Let's save time. Let's use more time to check in on people we care about or to sleep or to take care of yourself. Well, I don't understand why people fight the efficiency of sport. And I guess it's because we yearn for the older stuff. We, it makes, it makes us, our time feel more relevant even how you buy records. There was a place called the warehouse. Shout out to the warehouse on Chapman Avenue, right? Album would come out and a lot of times you would go and get a single. Then if you remember again, this is child of the 90s, but I think it started in the late 80s, right? You had the high speed dubbing. High speed dubbing. So you take a cassette tape and then if you want to stop after each song, you had to start and stop. Or you just kind of record it, make your own mixtape. You fast forward until the spot and then you high speed dub so it would be faster. Why was it high speed dub? Because it was more efficient. And then we went from cassette tapes to CDs, right? And now that once we got to the real reason that we had, you know, that Apple Music became so big is you didn't have to buy a whole album. You didn't have to buy a whole album, right? Just download the song you want, preview the other songs. You don't like it, don't download it, pay one fee. It's all inefficiency. And yet Alabama takes 53. Like, oh, this is just what basketball has become. And you mean more efficient. You mean smarter, not harder. You do know it's actually easier to rebound when you have five guys outside the three point line, don't you? That's what people don't really understand. If you post up, it's a less efficient shot, right? And when you shoot the ball in the post, if it's not a surefire layup, you're shooting the ball over an extended hand. And then in order to get the rebound, you have to go through that same guy's body. Whereas if you're spread outside five guys outside the three point line and the shot goes up, you can beeline for the basketball and get offensive rebounds. Because it's really hard when your man is in the lane to box you out when you got a five step running start. Apparently baseball, especially basketball and football are the only three things in life that people want to be less efficient. No, no, no. Mid range shots. Where are the post ups? Go back and watch those games. The players were great and they played to a role that was established. I have no doubt in my mind, okay, that Larry Bird would be right in any conversation. The greatest three point shooter of all time. Just like Steph Curry. Had it been encouraged back in the day. How do I know that? Because when he had to, when they had the three point shooting contest, he won. And it wasn't that hard. And he is a better 10 times the rebounder of Dirk Nowitzki and ever bit the score inside of Nikola Jokic. He was amazing. But that's not how the sport was played. But we found ways to be, to work smarter, not harder in all aspects of life. And yet people in basketball, people in baseball, people in football want it done the old way. That's dumb. That's dumb. It's, it's honestly not unlike. I heard Bill Maher say this, right? We want manufacturing jobs back in the United States. Who's gonna do that? Right? Robots will do it, not human beings. Because human beings go to school now to be more efficient, to develop apps, to develop things that are, that are digitally based. Work smarter, not harder. Yet for some reason we have this loving, enjoyable view of our childhood. Like it was better. Do you know why we established these rules in the NBA where you can't hand check? Because it was awful to watch. It was terrible. But it's like we want to bite off our hand to spider face and tell people it's wrong. When last night. I can't think of one moment where I thought Alabama, hey, why don't you guys stop shooting? The reason start shooting mid range shots. Doug Gottlieb in for calling. This is the herd. Wait till you hear what Mick Cronin said yesterday in regards to recap it for you and react to it. Next in the Herd Be sure to.
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Colin Cowherd
Doug Gottlieb in for Colonists, the herd. Fox Sports Radio iHeartradio app. I was listening to Colin yesterday. We had it on the office, and he had Mick Cronin on. And obviously Mick, who's been incredibly successful. You go from Murray State and, you know, then as he's kind of climbed in his career to Cincinnati, covered his teams in Cincinnati in the NCAA tournament. Now to ucla. I thought this was interesting that he said he. He was talking about the NCAA tournament and Cinderella's. This. This was McCrone on it. Oh, I'm sorry. This. This is Cronin on Cooper Flag. What if Cooper Flag could play three years of college and he was coming into the NBA, then, then people would be saying, is this guy Larry Bird? You know how good you have to be? Like. Like, look, none of those guys were ready. I mean, Wembanyama wasn't ready to make a team. No, no, you can't go make a team, win when you're 18, 19 years old. You just can't do it.
Doug Gottlieb
Can't get into the hotel bar, give.
Colin Cowherd
Him 100 some college games, then let him go to the NBA. But those days, you know, then it's Magic Johnson. It's. Yeah, you know, it's Larry Bird. It's whatever. I mean, he's that good, guys. Yeah, no, he's. He's incredible. I think in some ways, Nil has saved college basketball. And in some ways, people say it's the transfer portal. It's not the transfer portal. Okay, That's. It's a very easy one. And again, maybe I'm. Maybe I'm one of those guys that's like correcting you and it doesn't need to be corrected. The transfer portal is nothing more than you put yourself in the old school days. You just have to go in to see your coach. You could do it by going to see in compliance, but you're supposed to go to see your coach, say, hey, coach, I want to transfer. The coach had to release you if you didn't want to be. If they didn't want to release you, which was weird because you don't want to be there. But if they didn't release you, which is very, very rare. You could still ask compliance or athletes athletic director, appeal to the nca. But usually you go in, you ask to be released and you can sign anywhere. Anywhere except for in conference. That used to be the rule. And if you, you're in conference you had to sit two years, whereas if you sat out of conference, you had to sit a year. The only exceptions to that were if you graduated on. If you graduated and you still had eligibility and the school you went to didn't have a certain major, you could find that major elsewhere. In other words, grad students got to transfer. And I actually have no problem with that rule. Right. If you've been somewhere for long enough to get a college degree, like that's the whole point of this thing and you want to go to grad school, fine, you should be able to leave. But what's hurt college sports is not the transfer portal. It's that you don't have to sit out a year the free and clear. I can go different school, different year, whatever. What, what holds me back from transferring. And let me destroy a little bit of a narrative that is such a false narrative. Since Jay Bilis has pretty much ruined college sports with his ideas of paying athletes no repercussions for transfers, let's also tell you that he's ruined a narrative and made it something that is absolutely, positively. He's done what social media does to so many problems. And I actually like and respect Jay, but he's been on this, he's been on this trail, marching down this trail for 20 years. And congrats, Jay, you've done it. Okay. I don't think it was with the intent of making Duke into a superpower, but that's what's ended up happening. This is end up happening. And if his thing is, hey, you know what I've done is I've created all this wealth for players. Yeah. But the reality is most of these guys, even there's, there's, I don't know how many, maybe 75 to. Nah, probably more, probably 300 high earners, well into six figure earners in college basketball. But some reason they've gotten these agents are getting 20% and it's created an artificial market where when they get done with college, then what if you get done with college and you've played five years and your last couple years you make a whole bunch of money and then you try and go and play overseas where they don't really value young players and you have to earn it, you're going to go from say you made $500,000, and then you go and play pro B in Italy, or you go and play second division in Spain, you might crack 100 grand. You go from playing college basketball and making $500,000, and now sudden like, hey, your first job as a true professional, you'll make a buck 25, which is a damn good job, especially maybe a two in Italy, and your salary can go up. You just like, why would I make less money? Because that's how real world works, bud. But one of the narratives is college coaches constantly leaving. They're in the transfer. The transfer portal for coaches never, never, never closes. Right. Okay, cool. In the acc. In the ACC of Florida State's coach retired. NC State's coach was fired. Miami's coach retired. Right. None of those coaches left their current job. I'm just. I just want to make sure here I got it right with. Yeah, nobody left their current job. Okay? So that's one of the five biggest conferences in the Big 12. In the Big 12, none of those coaches. Utah, they fired their coach before the season was over. West Virginia's coach did leave and went to Indiana, a job that was open because the Indiana head coach was retiring. So I've just gone through two conferences, and basically, again, the. The Big 12 was Big 12, 16 teams, something like that. If there are four major conferences or five major conferences, you're talking about five or so of the. Of the coaches moving places from one to another during an off season. And most times. Most times. Most times it's because somebody was fired. And most times it's like Richard Patino who joined us earlier. He was in Mexico for four years. Entire college basketball rosters are wiped out. In my league, there's a guy named Andy Tool, and he's a friend of mine, okay? They finished with the third worst record in the league two years ago. Last year, they built up, and they won the Horizon League, and they won the Horizon League tournament. And his top four players have already gotten to the portal. Congratulations on building up a juggernaut. They're all gone now. You got to go do it again. It's such a bullcrap narrative that coaches just leave. By the way, when a coach leaves, there's a buyout the. The seat I occupy. The reason it became open late in. In the middle of May, when the portal had been open for two months and had already been, you know, purged, was because Sundance Wicks is from Wyoming, and Jeff Linder, who was going to be under pressure and probably his last year, he's gone and he's an amazing offensive coach at Texas Tech. Part of that team that just won last night. And my school, even though he's like well heck, he was only there for a year and they're all better. No they're not. It was a $700,000 buyout. Help balance our books. If you want to start having $700,000 buyouts for coaches, for players, by all means you can move. Schools at our level would be more than happy to have huge buyouts. Why not? You want to move, should be a buyout. By the way, that's what happens in the real world if Greg Tuohy is our esteemed producer. Greg, you know this. You've been in the radio radio business. If I've left places, if you leave, you have a non compete.
Greg Tui
Sure.
Colin Cowherd
Right when I left one place and went to another, I had a non compete. When I, when I left that was my first. When I left ESPN to go to CBS Sports Radio I went non compete. And then when I left CBS to come to Fox, CBS because I left with still some time left on my contract. Fox wanted me to come in and, and, and do things during the NCAA tournament do call in show like now during the N State term which I've done every year since. And CBS like no, no, you can leave, we're not going to stop you, we're not going to force you. By the way, media contracts, I don't know how many people know this. Media contracts totally one sided any place I've left. If they, if they wanted to, they don't execute it. But if they wanted to, they can match any contract offer and you're still under contract with them and they could execute a non compete for a year or two years. You physically can't work anywhere else now. They have to pay you at the rate commensurate with whatever you're offered. Otherwise it's, it's, it's, you can't make them into employees. There's so many reasons why. The biggest reason, the most obvious reason that nobody talks about is college sports operates in under a tax free umbrella and it saves hundreds of thousands of dollars at our level and millions upon millions of dollars. Otherwise the second they become employees, every benefit they get, every benefit is taxed. In addition to the fact that now all of a sudden they become state employees and there's all these different processes in terms of being an employee. When the idea is like hey let's how about we get kids a chance to get a great education to play sports and yeah Get a little bit of money in their pocket. Why not? Nobody's ever been against that. What they've been against is what's happening now. Where school after school, year after year, new whole new team. Yeah. Does it look bad when. When a coach goes from Drake to West Virginia for a year and then goes to Indiana? Sure. But I think There was a $2.6 million buyout for West Virginia which will pay for their new head coach for this year. That's what contracts have. They have buyouts. In addition to which, it happens a handful of times, whereas you're talking about a thousand already and likely to be 2 or 3,000 kids. The transfer portal. And there's other parts to it which aren't great. And look, there's success stories. The year before I got here, all Horizon League player gets big money. Last year, kid named Noah Reynolds to go to tcu. And good for him. My best player, Anthony Roy, if he doesn't choose to go to the NBA draft because of it, because he was injured and he only played 11 games after leading the country and scoring, he'll make a crazy money. That's great. That's awesome. Those things you should have. But just all the movement to movement. It's not the transfer portal. It's a transfer rule that you don't have to sit out here. So then when you have your fifth and sixth and seventh school, how are we ever going to have an alumni game ever again? Where will you ever. Who will you ever call on when you need a job for your basketball family, ever? What connection do you have with the university? Let's get to Greg Tui with the news.
Doug Gottlieb
No, no, no. Turn on the news.
Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd line news.
Greg Tui
All right, Duggar. So last night we finally got our first OT game in the tournament with Texas Tech rallying past Arkansas. Sweet sixteen continues tonight. Ole Miss, Michigan State kick us off in the South. Kentucky, Tennessee in the Midwest, followed by the nightcap, Michigan versus number one seed, Auburn in the south as well. And then Purdue and Houston. Are we feeling more chalk tonight? We feeling a little chalky still.
Colin Cowherd
These games, I mean, I've told you, I've mostly, mostly been chalking. I was all chalk last night and I was 3 and 1. Not because I cared about the line yet. I do think Tennessee beats Kentucky. I think Purdue beats Houston. I do think Houston beats Purdue. Okay, Auburn, Michigan is big and strong, but I don't love their guard play, per se. And I think Auburn on some level will speed them up. The only one that I kind of like, is. I kind of like Ole Miss.
Greg Tui
Interesting.
Colin Cowherd
Michigan State.
Greg Tui
Chris Beard, huh?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Greg Tui
You're a big Chris Beard fan.
Colin Cowherd
I am a Chris. Big Chris. He's a friend, and I think he's an incredible coach. I also. I love their point guard.
Doug Gottlieb
He.
Colin Cowherd
He goes to. He went to Shawn Padula, went to Edmond. Edmond North Shampadula is a stud. He was at Virginia Tech, and he's so good, man. And like, look, if you're going to be white kid with a headband, you better be a Hooper in the tournament. Absolute Hooper in the tournament. He's played two tournament games and been very good, very good in both of them.
Greg Tui
I want to see Rick Barnes get back to the Final Four. They've had biggest thing, biggest knock on him has always been he can't win these big games in the tournament.
Colin Cowherd
Usually can't score.
Greg Tui
They can't score.
Colin Cowherd
And this interesting, interesting against. It'll be interesting against Kentucky. Now, when he has gotten to the Final Four, he has made deep runs. Generally, it's when he has DJ Augustine, TJ Ford. TJ Ford took him to a Final Four. It's when he has quality point guard play. Quality point guard play. And Sakai Ziegler is a quality point guard. So it wouldn't stun me.
Greg Tui
Definitely. Have the Dodgers officially become the new evil empire in baseball? Obviously, everybody's been mad at the Dodgers for the last couple years. How they put their team together, that's no surprise. No.
Colin Cowherd
Who's everybody?
Greg Tui
Well, I think it's more of like, I think it's a media thing. I think it's a fan, opposing fan thing. You know, I think they just feel like they're taking. They're taking all the cake for themselves. But this week, Dodgers CEO Stan Kasten told Bob Nightingale at USA Today, he said, we keep hearing people call us the evil Empire. If we win the next five years in a row, go ahead. You can call us that, but we're a long way for us to be called evil, let alone an empire. We're proud of what we accomplished, but there's still a lot left to accomplish. So call us evil. Call us the favorite. But we're good for our fans that love us and we're good for the fans that hate us. My thing is, I mean, are the Dodgers really villains? Because they have so. All their stars are likable. Ohtani, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Best.
Colin Cowherd
I think. I think their ability to. I think their ability to move Shohei Ohtani's money, to be deferred. Just being smarter than Everybody else.
Greg Tui
Does that make you evil if you're smarter, though?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I don't know. I mean, they have a lot of money, they spend a lot of money. I think it's good for the sport. You want to have somebody take now do I think it makes it super competitive. No. But if you want to be more now they do have the tax system, you know, so it's like anything else. They found loopholes and they're willing to pay whatever there is in tax. So for that part that, that everybody's pockets get filled when the Dodgers are good.
Greg Tui
I agree. I agree. And I just think, I think this whole like Dodgers versus the field thing, I think it's a great storyline to follow throughout the year. And let's be honest, if they don't win the World Series this year, how are we going to look at them? Like it was a massive failure.
Colin Cowherd
Like.
Greg Tui
Their season was a failure if they don't win the World Series? I think that's how we all look at it.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I think. I think it'll be looked that way. I don't think that's the case. You know, again, we don't know. It's like a lot like Matt Holiday when he joined us. He's like, well, are they going to stay healthy? You know, what, what happened? And it's baseball. Things go bump in the night. But yeah, I mean they're the definitely the odds on favorite. They won it last year. But remember they had to. They had to have incredible last two games against the Padres where it looked like they were dead to rights against Padres.
Greg Tui
Right.
Colin Cowherd
So baseball is. Is quirky enough to where you know, there's a lot greater chance that somebody else wins it than they.
Greg Tui
That's the news.
Colin Cowherd
Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news. All right, coming up next in the Herd. Man, I love this little best for last. Best for last. The call of the of the Bulls comeback is our best for last. Why you'll hear it next in the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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NMLS consumeraccess.org Number 3030 Doug Aliman for Colin, it's the Herd. Fox Sports Radio I heart radio app. We'll talk a little bit about tonight's games NCAA tournament in in a second. It's a Friday. It's the end of the show. I got something safe for you. I think you're gonna like it. It it is not everything is better than it used to be. More efficient, maybe not, not, not better. It's what brings us to best for last. It's almost the end of the show, but that doesn't mean we're phoning it in. Nope. We grind to the very last segment. It's time for best for last. Okay, last night the Chicago Bulls had an amazing comeback, right with 12 seconds to go, they're down five points to hit a three where LeBron stunningly leaves this man open in the corner. Then he takes the imbalance pass and almost like Isaiah Thomas against the Celtics when D.J. steals the ball. He passed the bird, right. But the. The Lakers did get the ball back. And Austin Reeves does get a layup in what should have won the game for them. But then this happened for the Bulls. Here's Reeves. Reeves straight to the top, plays it in. Bulls are out of timeouts.
Doug Gottlieb
Two seconds left.
Colin Cowherd
DD for the win. I cannot believe this. Elizabeth, I coming, baby. Improbable. Unbelievable. Impossible. Magic did him. Good day, man. Oh. Stacy King is the. Is the color analyst in the call. Which brings us to our best for last. Oh, I saw you already hit the best for last. My bad. Okay, so here's what I thought. Okay. That line, the Elizabeth, I'm coming for you, that comes from Sanford and Son, doesn't it? Oh, this is a big one. Is that Elizabeth, I'm coming to Georgia, honey. Right? And every time something crazy would happen on Sanford and Son. That's what red. That was red. Foxes like go to line. And maybe this is what's missing most from TV shows. Again, way more efficient now if we want to watch it. Watch a show. You know, anything from, you know, Landman to. Yeah, you, you pick. You pick the show, right? You pick the show succession. You can binge watch them. You can binge watch them. You can watch them whenever you want. You can download it on your iPad, you can watch it on your. You can watch it in your car. Doesn't even matter. But we don't have is these go to lines, right? Like you remember what was that? Different strokes, right? What you talking about Willis? Or you had JJ from Good Times when jj. Yeah, that was his line. Dynamite. Dynamite. Do you remember when. Yeah, with friends. Not friends. Cheers. When Norm would walk in afternoon, everybody. I mean Tui and right. This is like our childhood. This is what this is. Everyone would. Everyone would have line that was like their go to line that they would. That they would always have. You had. My dad was a big Archie Bunker fan, right. All in the family. And he used to call his son in law. That's actually Rob Reiner meathead all the time.
Greg Tui
Yep.
Colin Cowherd
Two of you have any, any. What was your favorite show, your family show? That the. The line that. That the one actor would always have.
Greg Tui
Well, my wife's a big Seinfeld fan, so the Kramer entrance on Seinfeld was sure, sure.
Colin Cowherd
Which actually felt like sort of a wink, wink, nod, nod, right? To. I think the most famous like one line and one word was Alfred Fonzarelli the Fonz. When he would say, hey, hey, hey, Ryan, are you gonna sit there and tell us how bad 70s and 80s sitcom television was and how corny all this stuff was.
Doug Gottlieb
No, I actually liked All My Family was actually pretty funny.
Colin Cowherd
Oh my God, it's hysterical. Hysterical. So good. All right. Sanford and Son was an all timer too. I mean, really good show. But Stacy King, who? Oklahoma, first round pick of the Bulls. Part of that Bulls first championship team with Michael Jordan. Like, that's a quality pull. It's a dated reference, don't get me wrong. Like tui, did you know that reference?
Greg Tui
I didn't. When you told me this morning. I did not. I did not hear. I did not get it. Put two and two together.
Colin Cowherd
Ryan, did you know it?
Doug Gottlieb
Yes, I did.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And I would say that's about that, that's about the ratio, right? If you're like 40 or over or somewhere in that 40 or over, I would say it's probably in the 25%. Get that reference. If you're under 40, very. Is a very, very small percentage. Even though that show's still probably on. On TV land or Nick at night or whatever. Like, that's just, that's a. I mean, even, even references for. You mentioned Cheers. I mean, that's, that was, that was like my family's show. You know, you'd have Cosby show and then A Different world and then you would have Cheers. That was Thursday night tv. That was so good. Was first, wasn't it? Cosby show, then Family Ties, then Cheers. Was Family Ties different night? I don't remember. But I do remember that most of the comedic actors, you know, the. Whoever the jokester was in, in whatever would. Would always have one kind of go to line. And when I heard Stacy King break that thing out. But are we done with the LeBron and Stephen a thing like, is it ended yet? Because Stephen A. Was like, what was it? 17 minutes uninterrupted on first take yesterday. Have we moved on yet? I just, I, I understand that in terms of replies, Right. LeBron won. I don't understand what the, what his reasoning was because I felt like he appeared very small despite his immense amount of success. He doesn't need to engage.
Greg Tui
I mean, I think, I think Stephen A did that. So LeBron would respond to him again. He wants this thing to keep going.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Except for LeBron got up and confronted him during an NBA game. You know, during an NBA game. Like, this is crazy. I just, you know, and his, his thing is. Well, he made it personal. Well, it's impossible not to make it personal when it's about your son. That people don't think should have been drafted where he's drafted. And the idea you had him out there, you know, first game of the year, throwing him in the game just for a PR thing. And, you know, full disclosure, you know, he had. He has had one good shooting game in the NBA and he had a great game. Statistically. I didn't watch the game. Statistically, in the G League his last time out, he's clearly improving and getting better. But I don't think anything Stephen A. Said was below board or was personal. Again, if, as LeBron said, hey, I'm okay with talking basketball talk, whatever. So I just don't know why it matters to him. I don't.
Greg Tui
Well, like you said when you were. I think it was a couple weeks ago when you were filling in, you said, once he went pro, basically, the gloves are off. He's fair game for anybody to.
Colin Cowherd
But. But even when you say the gloves are off, it's not like. Like nobody's beating. Like, I'm not social media. I'm not beating up on him.
Greg Tui
Yeah, no, no.
Colin Cowherd
I'm just like, look, dude, he barely played last year. He should have played and had his confidence. Now he's getting his confidence. The other part to it is I think he had 39 in the G League.
Greg Tui
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
What's crazy about that is, like, he never had 30 in a high school game. Ever had 30 in a high school game. I don't think he ever had 30 in an AAU game once he was in high school. And the point is, you're like, why does that matter? Scoring is not everything. I agree. And it's one of the reasons that I always thought that if he ever got a shot, he would have a shot, because his only chance to really make it in the NBA is as a role player. But an NBA player generally, unless you're a super late bloomer and you grow late, whatever, usually there's a couple games in high school where you're like, that's what an NBA, especially for McDonald's All American, like, that's what it looks like. And that wasn't him. And that's fair critique. But I guess because it's about his son, I get it. I got a son who plays. Nobody likes it. Feels personal, but it should be fair game. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the second half of the sweet 16. This is the herd.
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Release Date: March 28, 2025
Host: Doug Gottlieb (guest-hosting for Colin Cowherd)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, guest host Doug Gottlieb delves into a variety of sports topics, seamlessly blending nostalgia with contemporary sports analysis. The discussion navigates through the efficiency of modern technologies compared to the past, the intricacies of college sports transfers, and the perceived dominance of the Los Angeles Dodgers in baseball. While the episode is titled "Thoughts on Cooper Flagg," the conversation predominantly centers around broader sports themes rather than focusing solely on Cooper Flagg.
Gottlieb begins by reminiscing about the 1990s, highlighting how technological advancements have streamlined daily activities. He contrasts the inefficiencies of the past—such as using beepers and pagers—with today's seamless connectivity via smartphones and apps.
Notable Quote:
"We went from cassette tapes to CDs, right? And now with Apple Music, you don't have to buy a whole album. You don't have to buy a whole album, right? Just download the song you want."
— Doug Gottlieb [04:15]
Gottlieb emphasizes that while nostalgic sentiments often frame the past as superior, modern advancements have significantly enhanced efficiency in various aspects of life, including communication and entertainment.
The conversation shifts to the changes brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly the shift to remote work. Gottlieb acknowledges the benefits of increased efficiency and time savings, such as avoiding traffic and utilizing tools like Zoom for virtual meetings. However, he also recognizes the loss of human interaction and the need for a balance between efficiency and personal connections.
Notable Quote:
"Not all efficiency is perfect. And you do need some sort of kind of human warmth and human touch and human interaction."
— Doug Gottlieb [07:05]
The discussion underscores the dual-edged nature of technological efficiency, advocating for a harmonious blend of productivity and human connection.
A significant portion of the episode critiques the modern college sports landscape, particularly the transfer portal's impact on team stability and alumni relations. Gottlieb disputes the narrative that the transfer portal is inherently detrimental, arguing instead that it facilitates necessary movement akin to competitive dynamics in the professional realm.
Key Points:
Transfer Rules: Gottlieb explains that the real issue isn't the transfer portal itself but the lack of requirements for student-athletes to sit out a year when transferring, which previously acted as a deterrent against frequent transfers.
Coaching Stability: He argues that coach turnover is often exaggerated in popular narratives, pointing out that many coaches remain in their positions unless fired for performance reasons.
Economic Implications: Gottlieb draws parallels between sports contracts and real-world employment contracts, highlighting how buyouts and non-compete clauses function in both arenas.
Notable Quote:
"It's not the transfer portal. It's a transfer rule that you don't have to sit out here. So then when you have your fifth and sixth and seventh school, how are we ever going to have an alumni game ever again?"
— Doug Gottlieb [25:30]
Gottlieb posits that the flexibility afforded by the transfer portal can be beneficial, allowing athletes to seek better opportunities without significant barriers, thereby fostering a more dynamic and competitive environment.
Gottlieb and co-host Greg Tui explore the widespread perception of the Los Angeles Dodgers as the "evil empire" within baseball. They dissect the reasons behind this sentiment, attributing it to the Dodgers' strategic team-building and financial prowess.
Key Points:
Financial Strategy: The Dodgers' ability to leverage finances strategically, such as deferring salaries, allows them to assemble a star-studded roster, often outperforming other teams on both the field and in terms of marketability.
Media Perception: The duo suggests that media narratives and fan rivalries amplify the Dodgers' "evil" reputation, despite the team's positive impact on the sport through high-profile, likable players.
Competitive Dominance: They acknowledge the Dodgers' consistent performance and success, which naturally breeds both admiration and envy among fans and rival teams alike.
Notable Quote:
"I don't know if it makes it super competitive. No. But if you want to be smarter than everybody else."
— Doug Gottlieb [35:00]
Despite the criticism, Gottlieb defends the Dodgers' approach as beneficial for the sport's competitiveness and financial health, questioning whether their methods truly warrant the "evil" label.
The episode provides comprehensive coverage of the ongoing NCAA tournament, with a focus on matchups, team performances, and strategic analysis.
Key Points:
First OT Game: Texas Tech's rally past Arkansas marks the first overtime in the tournament, highlighting the intense competition and unpredictability of college basketball.
Team Evaluations: Gottlieb shares his predictions, expressing confidence in teams like Tennessee over Kentucky and Purdue over Houston, while also noting the strengths and weaknesses of teams like Auburn and Michigan.
Coaching Analysis: Colin Cowherd commends Chris Beard of Michigan State for his coaching prowess and effective point guard management, emphasizing the importance of quality leadership in deep tournament runs.
Notable Quote:
"I think Malt Barn saved college basketball."
— Doug Gottlieb [38:00]
Gottlieb credits innovative coaching strategies as pivotal to teams' successes, underscoring the significant role of coaching in navigating the high-stakes environment of the NCAA tournament.
A heated discussion ensues regarding the ongoing tension between LeBron James and sports commentator Stephen A. Smith. The debate centers on LeBron's public confrontations with Smith, particularly in the context of critiques about LeBron's son, Cooper Flagg.
Key Points:
Personal vs. Professional: Gottlieb examines LeBron's confrontational approach during an NBA game, questioning the appropriateness of personal attacks in professional sports discourse.
Player Evaluation: The conversation touches on Cooper Flagg's performance, with Gottlieb acknowledging his statistical improvements yet questioning the relevance of high-scoring games to overall team dynamics and professional readiness.
Media Influence: They critique Stephen A. Smith's role in shaping public narratives, suggesting that continuous media criticism can disproportionately influence perceptions of players and their families.
Notable Quote:
"Scoring is not everything. I agree. And it's one of the reasons that I always thought that if he ever got a shot, he would have a shot, because his only chance to really make it in the NBA is as a role player."
— Doug Gottlieb [50:58]
Gottlieb emphasizes the multifaceted nature of basketball, advocating for a broader evaluation of players beyond mere scoring metrics, and cautioning against media-driven narratives that may overlook a player's comprehensive contributions.
In the episode's concluding segment, Gottlieb recounts an exhilarating moment from a Chicago Bulls game where the team mounted an improbable comeback in the final seconds.
Key Points:
Game Highlights: With 12 seconds remaining and the Bulls trailing by five points, LeBron James makes a crucial play, leaving an opponent open and facilitating a decisive pass that almost seals the win.
Fan Reactions: The play elicits excitement and nostalgia, as Gottlieb draws parallels to iconic moments from classic TV shows, reinforcing the emotional connection fans have with memorable sports events.
Technical Analysis: The breakdown of the play underscores the importance of strategic decision-making and teamwork in securing victories during high-pressure situations.
Notable Quote:
"That line, 'Elizabeth, I'm coming for you,' comes from Sanford and Son, doesn't it?"
— Doug Gottlieb [45:50]
The segment highlights the intertwining of sports moments with cultural references, enhancing the relatability and entertainment value for the audience.
Throughout this episode, Doug Gottlieb delivers a nuanced exploration of various sports-related topics, balancing personal anecdotes with analytical insights. From celebrating technological advancements and their impact on efficiency to scrutinizing the complexities of college sports transfers and the Dodgers' business strategies, Gottlieb provides listeners with a comprehensive and engaging discussion. The episode culminates in a thrilling recount of a Bulls game, leaving the audience with a blend of excitement and thoughtful reflection on the evolving landscape of sports.
Final Notable Quote:
"It's all about efficiency. I don't want to cook and clean. It's not just the work. It's like it's such an inefficient thing."
— Doug Gottlieb [07:30]
Gottlieb encapsulates the episode's central theme of striving for efficiency in modern life and sports, while also recognizing the enduring value of human connection and legacy.
Embrace Technological Efficiency: Modern advancements have streamlined daily activities, enhancing productivity and connectivity, albeit at the cost of some personal interactions.
Reevaluating College Sports Dynamics: The transfer portal, when understood correctly, can foster a more dynamic and competitive environment in college sports, though it requires balanced regulations to maintain team stability.
Understanding Team Dominance: The Los Angeles Dodgers' strategic financial and team-building approaches, while earning them the "evil empire" label, contribute positively to the sport's financial health and competitive landscape.
Holistic Player Evaluation: Success in sports should be measured beyond statistical achievements, considering overall contributions and team dynamics.
Cultural Integration of Sports Moments: Memorable sports events often resonate deeply with cultural references, enhancing fan engagement and emotional investment.
This detailed summary encapsulates the essence of the podcast episode, offering listeners a comprehensive overview of the discussions and insights shared by Doug Gottlieb during his guest-hosting stint on The Herd with Colin Cowherd.