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Colin Cowherd
Hey, what's up everybody? It's Levar Arrington here from up on Game and I need you to listen for a moment, all right, and get serious. The hate in this country is getting out of control. It's at an all time high. It's going to take all of us to stop it. I mean, think about it. We're all on the same team in this country, right? Let's take a break from hate so our team can regroup. We need to take a time out against hate. Visit standuptolhate.org to help and join me in calling for a timeout against hate by following at what's up with Hate or posting the blue square emoji Small.
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LeVar Arrington
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Colin Cowherd
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JMac
Now let's get this party started.
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. You know, it was interesting. We got into this big argument last week about Gentee the running back from Boise State or Travis Hunter. Who would we pick for the Heisman? I said Travis Hunter from Colorado because I think college football is uniquely dependent. All the arguments in college football come down to who did you play? Like in the NFL, it doesn't matter if you win your division, you get in a home game in the playoffs, doesn't matter who you played. But in college all the arguments are who do you play? Even in recruiting, kids are like, well, who do you play? Do you get on television? So in college football, the Big Ten can have four teams in the playoffs and the ACC can have two. Why? Who do you play? The Big Ten is better. Better competition. For years and years the SEC has been considered the best conference. Why? Because you have to go play all these good teams. So to me, the Boise State running back is very good. He had three touchdowns against Oregon, the best team they played. So he's a first round running back. But he had 270 yards and six touchdowns against Georgia Southern. There's a lot of San Jose states in Utah states. And I'm not saying Colorado had the toughest schedule in the country, but they're, they're, they're facing Power 5 big time programs, they're going on the road and he's the best athlete on the field. So I think both are going to be great pros. The argument is what, what do you do with, with Travis Hunter? What do you do with him as a pro? I'd put him at corner and either put him on returns or as a number three receiver. I couldn't make him a number one receiver and a number one quarter. I just don't, I think that's a lot to ask, but I think he is a, I mean I think he's an all time, maybe not Deion Sanders level, but Sauce Gardner level, corner. And then I would use him as a weapon on the offensive side. But I'm comfortable saying Travis Hunter because he's so historically unique. They're all good kids. We're all lucky to have all these kids that are so focused on the right stuff. But, but I had him number one. I'd put the running back for Boise State number two, and I'm, I'm comfortable with it. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Cavino and Rich? We talked about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Cavino Enriched Live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcasts. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich. What makes the holiday special are the details from Genesis and every little detail in a Genesis is another gift to you. Like during winter, you'll be thankful for the available heated steering wheel and the available snow mode to help get you through the snowiest of snow days. And the available all wheel drive is helpful all year round, but especially during the winter. 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LeVar Arrington
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Colin Cowherd
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JMac
Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herdline news.
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Mark Sanchez
I know we haven't talked about it much, but Lamar Jackson had quite a Sunday against the hapless Giants. Dealt them their ninth straight loss this season. Lamar had five touchdown passes. Colin it's the seventh time in his career where Lamar has had as many or more passing touchdowns 5 than incompletions 4. He also joined Mike Vick as the only quarterback over 6,000 rushing yards. Ravens roll. Lamar, you know he is putting up MVP numbers. He's had a better season this year than he did last year. The only problem is they lost a bunch of games there in the middle.
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Colin Cowherd
I think, I think the only question with Lamar is January. I think he's he can't play quarterback. Check. Blade not as good in the pocket. Check. He's totally committed. The soul of the franchise. And I've said this before, there are certain players in the NFL, even great ones, that are replaceable. Like if Joe Burrow left Cincinnati tomorrow and ended up, you know, in a good franchise or anywhere, you'd be like, it wouldn't Be that memorable, the Cincinnati days. I feel more than any player in the NFL, Lamar Jackson feels like Baltimore. The toughness, the grit, the work ethic. It's always been a. It's never been a flashy franchise. It is a tough bar room. I mean, even the show, the Wire, it's a tough city. You know, D.C. gets all the glamour. Philadelphia, all those east coast cities. Baltimore is the one that gets overlooked. Lamar Jackson was overlooked in his toughness and his leadership, how much he cares. I don't think there's a player in the league that symbolizes a franchise and the toughness and the work ethic better than Lamar with the Ravens.
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Mark Sanchez
I think you're right. Kind of an underplayed story regarding Lamar. Remember, him and Derrick Henry were supposed to make this offense incredible.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Mark Sanchez
Have you. Have you taken a look at Derrick Henry's last, I don't know, five games?
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Colin Cowherd
I know, I know. Notice that.
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Mark Sanchez
Is he. So he did erupt against the Chargers.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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Mark Sanchez
But for the last five games, under 85 yards rushing and they've lost two of them. I'm just curious, is he wearing down or is this strategic? Hey, let's save him for January. It's one of those two. We don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, the NFL season's longer than people think. The NFL's now added another game. There is discussions for an 18th game. To me, you have to expand the rosters.
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Mark Sanchez
I would agree.
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Colin Cowherd
The idea, we're lucky that. I mean, McCaffrey got hurt, Joe Mixon got hurt, now Montgomery is hurt, Judge now down. Yeah. There are certain positions in the NFL.
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Mark Sanchez
J.K. dobbins, that injury has crippled.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, you could argue the running back because quarterbacks are protected, kickers protected. There's wide receivers now. You can't hit them high. We don't protect running backs. So to me, if you're going to expand the roster and play 18 games, teams have to add a. Another running back. Too many teams, I mean, now, now Detroit's lost their running back. That's going to absolutely affect stylistically how.
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Mark Sanchez
They play, I guess. Final note, Raven Steelers rematch this week. You saw how much the Steelers defense was on the field.
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Colin Cowherd
TJ Watts hurt.
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Mark Sanchez
TJ Watts hurt. I like Baltimore revenge spot. Remember Baltimore last. The last one in Pittsburgh and I think think they would be tied for first if Baltimore wins it. So that could be huge in the playoff race. Steelers then would have to go on the road. Lot of things at stake.
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Colin Cowherd
Steelers are really beholden to George Pickens. I will say, despite being outplayed, it was 1713. If Najee Harris doesn't fumble, you're sitting there thinking we got a one score game. That was a huge turnover.
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Mark Sanchez
Well, also when Saquon went out, I think it was 17:3. And then it was like, oh boy, this is going to be a blowout. And then Pittsburgh got back, you know, Saquon Barkley goes down. Eagles are in trouble. Next story. Colin. Things that cannot be separated. Okay. Your love for Sam Darnold.
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JMac
Yes.
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Mark Sanchez
Me and the Jets.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Mark Sanchez
Will Levis throwing pick sixes. How about it, Colin? He threw another one yesterday in the loss to the Bengals and it led to him getting benched by Brian Callahan. Callahan has seen enough. He said this morning about the benching. He doesn't know who his quarterback is this week.
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JMac
The easiest way to say it is that there's a, you know, there's a standard that of play and there's been multiple guys on our team that we've sat down for performance. Those are all things that are just a part of NFL life and a part of performance and trying to win football games. And you just have to make sure that when you're making decisions and you're coaching, that's the same across the board for all positions and the quarterback position is a part of that.
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Colin Cowherd
New information equals new opinion. Yeah. If you look at the draft order right now, I think the Giants, Raiders and The Titans at 6 are going to draft quarterbacks.
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Mark Sanchez
So Titans go Quinn Ewers or Jalen Milro.
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Colin Cowherd
Keep your eye on Sam Darnold. Oh, so in free. I thought it was Giants, Raiders. Milro drops to 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. I think the Titans have come to terms with. It's just how out. First of all, I remember when he got drafted, Clay Travis is like, it's not going to work. And I'm like, Clay's got a big arm, you know, because he watched all Will Levis in college and he's a Titans fan and I thought I give it a shot. Yeah, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. He judgment. He makes throws that you can't make and now he's got plenty of starts. So I think Giants, Raiders and Titans are all either drafting or acquiring a quarterback and it's not a good quarterback year.
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Mark Sanchez
It's not. I don't know that. I wish the Titans offensive line on Sam Darnold. He's not going to have much of a chance. It is brutally.
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Colin Cowherd
Titans at number six. Could go get the offensive tackle Campbell from LSU and then get Riley Leonard. Stop it. Second round quarterback Tony Pollard looked okay.
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Mark Sanchez
Taj S.M. spears has some pop. Ridley's good. West, they got dudes, they got some guys. And I like Callahan as a coach.
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Colin Cowherd
So do I think the Titans. You just can't overcome multiple interception games.
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Mark Sanchez
Yeah, that's a rough one. Final story, Colin. We are going to Shadoor Sanders, who's expected to be the number one pick in the draft. But the question is about is he going to want to go where he's drafted? And a report surfaced over the weekend saying there was a high likelihood Shadour would refuse to play for. For the Giants or Browns. Dion disputed the rumor quickly on Twitter, saying a lie. Don't care who tells it. Please stop trying to become relevant by misrepresenting my son. God bless you. I don't know what NFL rookie watches, but they shut it down.
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Colin Cowherd
Can we just. Yeah, I don't know what that means.
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Mark Sanchez
Well, everybody's chasing clicks and followers and whatever.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, Shedeur is the most polished of the quarterbacks. Cam Ward's got a bigger arm and I think moves better. So I think it depends on what you're looking for. I think sometimes with Cam Ward, it feels a little backyard football, but some people may want that. I mean, Josh Allen moves, Lamar moves. It works.
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Mark Sanchez
Raiders and Shedeur seem like a perfect fit.
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Colin Cowherd
God, wouldn't that be great?
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Mark Sanchez
I'm going to go ahead and put it out there. I'm going to go ahead and guess Deion is not going to want Shadour to play for the New York Giants.
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Colin Cowherd
Why is that?
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Mark Sanchez
Well, I mean, the franchise has been totally rotten for the last five years. Right? Stink.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's not like the Raiders have been up there dominating offensive line.
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Mark Sanchez
They can't get right. Well, the Raiders, the problem is they have some affinity. Shadour seems to like the Raiders. We know Deion has a relationship with him.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Vegas. Vegas is fun. If you're a young guy with money.
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Mark Sanchez
Well, that would.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, Shadour Sanders in Vegas.
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Mark Sanchez
Hey, and we talked about since they moved there, they needed a face for the franchise. They had Gruden, now they got nobody.
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Colin Cowherd
Max Crosby's the face.
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Mark Sanchez
A defensive end is going to be the face of your franchise.
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Colin Cowherd
I think he. I think he is a Raider through and through.
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Mark Sanchez
He is, but he's. You can't sell tickets with, hey, we got Max Crosby. You can sell Shador Sanders. Go ask Colorado. They're making money hand over fist this year.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. This is exciting. Yeah. Would you draft him number one?
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Mark Sanchez
I would, given the choices. Yeah, probably.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I Don't think.
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Mark Sanchez
I don't listen. I don't think he's in the class of Caleb Williams.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, no. I don't either. Or Jaden Daniels.
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Mark Sanchez
Jaden. He's not one of those guys.
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Colin Cowherd
No. But I think he's polished. I think he's a kid that understands, holds onto the ball a little too long. But nobody's a finished product once you get to the NFL. Nobody. Andrew Luck wasn't nobody. Is J. Mac with the news.
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JMac
Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
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Colin Cowherd
The herd lie news. Oh, my goodness. Baker Mayfield putting on a clinic. Mark Sanchez is now joining us. Fox Sports NFL analyst number five pick 10 NFL years. Boy, that was a shocker yesterday. We'll get. We'll get to that one.
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JMac
Were you shocked?
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Colin Cowherd
Dropping a 40 burger on the Chargers?
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JMac
They didn't turn it over twice.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, it was.
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JMac
They might have hung half a hundred on them.
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Colin Cowherd
They were. And we'll get to that. Let me ask you this. So this season is much more attrition than people think. Since you've played, they've added a game on, they want to add another one on. And I think the league gets. Athletes get bigger and stronger every year. The hits are harder. And so I look at Detroit and I really felt it yesterday. They're running out of dudes. Yeah. And Buffalo's not. And. And frankly, Philadelphia so damn deep. I even look at Green Bay and the Rams and Tampa. Is it. Did you ever play for a team and you're like, we're just running out of dudes?
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JMac
So we had my rookie year. We kind of backed into the playoffs. And I talked about this last week, the second year we were. We won a bunch of games in the middle chunk of the year that, like, middle third.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
And we're starting to crescendo right at the right time. And that's what some of those teams you mentioned are doing. Unfortunately for Detroit, it's the opposite. They're going on the downturn. And that's the only fear. When you start that hot, you just hope guys don't start dropping. And if they do, it's a short break. Right. You miss him for two games, whatever. You have somebody patch the hole and then move on. Unfortunately, they're losing guys left and right and they're catastrophic injuries. And now it turned into a, hey, we gotta outscore these teams. It changed right Formula to win every week is based on your personnel. Well, when you start losing personnel. And now it's okay. We're more of a one Sided team because our defense is so depleted.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
That we gotta outscore you and kind of change our toughness, identity. Because if you're an outscoring the other team type ball club, that's a more finesse group. Usually. Usually. Right. You know, you can still run the ball and be physical, but generally speaking, you're a little more finessed. That's not really what they are. Then you lose Montgomery. I mean, that was one of the best tandems in the league when it comes to running backs. Either them or the Buccaneers.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
So they just kind of lost a little bit of their identity because they lost so many guys that were starting for him. And that's just. You can't control that.
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Colin Cowherd
And I think that's. That you hit it. They lost. They're losing their identity. It's not just players, bit of their identity. Deep, talented, layers, two backs. Now they're kind of like.
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JMac
And everybody can only withstand so much. I mean, and it was interesting because we had that Bucks game. I was closer to it and a little more, I guess, aware. But hearing Todd Bowles talk about it, you know, we have the. The luxury of talking to these coaches each week, going into games.
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Colin Cowherd
They were beat up early.
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JMac
Exactly. And so I asked him about that and this war of attrition that we talk about over the long haul of the season. And he almost like, cut me off and was just like, hey, these guys made the team for a reason. I'm getting paid to coach them. I got to coach them up. I got to get them in the right spots. And it's my job when we put in all these blitz packages, to get them in the right spot. And you know, Antoine Winfield, he does these 20 things for us really well. Yeah, well, the guy who's filling in for him, Meriwether, he might not do all those things. Okay, but what does he do? Well, yeah, let's try and keep him in that zone. Keep him in that strike zone perspective, you know what I mean? And I really appreciated that because a lot of teams, you know, you use it as an excuse and however you want to use it. I just appreciated that he said, hey, man. It was almost like he was convincing himself not to go to negative town. Like, oh, woe is me. We lost all these players. So I really appreciated that.
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Colin Cowherd
I thought was interesting with the packers last night. And we both know they're young and good, but those first two drives, they took Seattle's crowd out of it.
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JMac
And that's. You got to do that in Seattle.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm sitting There watching. I'm like, man, they. They talked about that all week.
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JMac
Yeah. Oh, 100%. And, you know, going into a hostile environment like that, it's, you know, you're 53 against the world kind of mentality and enemy terror. I mean, we loved it. That was our only chance. Right. We didn't win the division. Tom Brady was owning our division when we were playing. Yeah. So we had to go on the road, and it just felt like, okay, this is what we do. And once you stack one of those wins, you're like, I like it. Let's do it again. We're kind of the villain coming into town. You know, we're the Grinch. We come in, we steal your Christmas and move on and try and go take the next one. That's. That's kind of the way it feels. So I think they've adopted that mentality for sure. And when you go to Seattle like that, you better be ready early. And if you're not ready early, you're going to get punched, and. Okay, you're going to be a little wobbly, and then you got to try and come back. And that's really hard to do to shut that crowd up later in the game after they're already going bonkers. So.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So I thought of you because I knew you were on the show today, and I thought about this. So I'm joking. Today that Philadelphia is the strangest great organization in football. I mean, you got coaches on the sidelines yelling, you've got wide receiver drama. I mean, they run through coaches that make the Super Bowl. And I actually thought, what was the last team that won a lot of games that had a level of dysfunction? And I thought, Rex, Ryan, you guys had. You were loud.
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JMac
It was noisy.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. But my take is it kind of worked for you guys and for Philadelphia. I kind of feel like they're very alpha, but it's kind of. They. I mean, the GM's alpha, the owner's alpha. And everybody looks at. I look at them and I'm like, ugh. Yeah. And I'm like, they've got their. They got a name for their security guard. I know the name of their security guard. Go back to your jets team.
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JMac
It's Ray Donovan.
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Colin Cowherd
So go back to your jets team. It was a loud team with a loud media.
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JMac
It was loud.
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Colin Cowherd
Did we look at it? Were we making more out of what it really was?
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JMac
Some of the stuff, like, you know, I'm trying to think of a story that blew up for no reason. Anything on Hard Knocks? I'M sure got blown out of proportion. You know, it's just the Ms. Yeah. Like, you know, the M M's or, you know, whatever.
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Colin Cowherd
Foot fetish.
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JMac
There we go.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm sorry it happened. It's not where.
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JMac
Where other people were just like, what? Like, I didn't even know that was a thing. Like, some guys on the team didn't even realize that was really happening in.
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Colin Cowherd
The media, so you weren't paying attention.
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JMac
And then, you know, you go to your press conference on Wednesday or Thursday and they have to tell you. They give you, like, a little briefing. You know, think of, like, the president. You can't just throw them out there blind. Like, hey, good luck. You know, hey, we're going to have this conversation. I'm sure they're going to ask about Russia. I'm sure they're going to ask about this. You know what I mean? Like, you got to have an idea of what's coming up. So then I hear about it 30 seconds before I go up to the podium, and I'm like, do I even have to comment on that? Is this really a thing?
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Mark Sanchez
Right.
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JMac
And who cares?
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Colin Cowherd
Like, New York does.
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JMac
No, I know, but my thing was like, okay, maybe he's in defeat. I don't know. Is that affecting if we're winning these games or not?
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Colin Cowherd
I. I'm unsure why, folks, if you're just tuning in. It was a thing in New York.
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JMac
But I don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
It works for Philly.
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JMac
It. It does in some ways. I think it's distracting at times, but they have the personnel, bottom line. They have the personnel to overcome that. And when you have those kind of players and you start winning games like this, dominating games like. And you can run the ball like that. Come on, man. I mean, they. They have five to seven players on each side of the ball that other teams would kill for.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
Would give up the farm for to, like, start a team around. Right. You know what I mean? Their whole offensive line is one of the best lines in the league, and they just demolish you up front. They own the line of scrimmage and reestablish it two yards down the field. So, I mean, yeah, a couple loud stories and whatever, this outside noise, I don't think it bothers them because they're just too good. They're really good.
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Colin Cowherd
They are really good.
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JMac
I know we were supposed to talk about the packers, and I went heavy on the Seahawks, but if I can circle back to the packers, sure, because they're young, but if you approach them as young in the playoffs. I think you're crazy. That's a team young in trips around the sun, not young in experience. Remember they went to Dallas last year.
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Colin Cowherd
And waxed them dominate.
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JMac
Right? They won by 16 or 18.
- [28:08]
Colin Cowherd
I mean, the second quarter, whatever, it was like over.
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JMac
Okay, so that was big time. Then they have the Niners on the ropes and should have won that game. They're in the championship. I mean, they're playing Detroit for the championship game.
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Colin Cowherd
They've been in prize fights.
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JMac
That's what I'm saying. So this team, if you approach them like, oh, this is a young team, they're not ready for it, that'd be a bad way to go about it, in my opinion.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I agree with you. Okay, we're going to take a break, come back. I'm. I'm interested. I said this earlier. I would want no part of Tampa in the playoffs.
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JMac
Oh yeah, they're going to be a tough out.
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Colin Cowherd
Can't run on them, they'll run on you. House money Baker's hot. Evans unguardable. Take a break. Back after this. Be sure to catch live editions of.
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JMac
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JMac
Dang.
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Colin Cowherd
I didn't. I didn't mean. I'm just telling the truth.
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JMac
Wow.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm just. I'm sorry.
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JMac
Now starting in left field.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. He brings tape. All I do is drop facts. Okay. I watch Baker Mayfield. People think I don't like Baker. When he signed with Tampa, I said, I got no problem with it. He's hit the grit and the fit. It's gonna work.
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JMac
Oh, crit and the fit. Nice.
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Colin Cowherd
So let's, let's. What do you got for me?
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JMac
No, I listen, Tampa in general, I think their formula to win. We talk about this with a lot of teams. They run the ball well. They stop the run well. They can choke you out, essentially. They suffocate you. And the way they do it is they limit your possessions. So instead of anywhere from 12 to 15 possessions a game, you're getting like 10, nine.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
And you better score on four to seven of those if you want to have a really good offensive out outing. That's really hard. That's asking your offense a lot to do. A lot. And that's kind of where they get over Vita Vea. I don't think he gets enough love on the D line. He is constantly dealing with double teams, constantly knocking two players back, grown men just throwing them around. So that was fun to watch. And when Baker takes care of the football, I mean, Liam Cohen's got this guy.
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Colin Cowherd
He's going to. He's going to get some offers to.
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JMac
Be a head coach 100%. Just based on. I mean, look at Canales last year. Look at Liam Cohen. He went right in that spot, and he might have this team in the same position, if not better, if they win a playoff game. So I just appreciate his approach to third down. Remember, they're second in the league, I think, in third down behind Kansas City.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
So this is an explosive unit on third down, and they do take chances, and I think they do it at the right time, and they align their guys in specific spots. They get information from the defense. I think those are really important themes. And then they trust Baker to cut it loose when it's time to cut it loose. So when we roll the first clip, when we talk about getting information from the defense, they're going to do it with the halfback and the motion. And so watch the back. And it's really the speed and the pace. And this looks real. It looks. We have it in slow motion, but it looks real that they're going to snap it and Rashad White's going to go flying to the left of the screen. So those safety start to trigger. So Baker knows I got a double cadence. Okay, I got them. They're going man to man. I can confirm the defense. I know exactly what I'm getting. So we zoom out to the all 22, and you see the man to man that Baker confirmed with that motion. So that just gives him one thing in his back pocket. I know what I'm facing. Now, normally these bunch sets, you have this guy closer to those stacked receivers, but because he's a little farther in alignment, dictates your assignment and how the defense is going to play you. So these guys are going to lock the point. And normally in a bunch like this, when you send three defenders out there, you're going to lock the point one on one and then combo the other two. The first guy's going to take the first one in. The inside defender will take the inside route, the outside defender will take the outside route, and you kind of zone those off till they end up in your area and then attack your guy. Well, because he's displaced also, they can't do that. And he can potentially give presence on Khalil Mack. So now you're affecting the D line in their rush and their rush plan, because if he's going to get chipped, he's got to prepare for that. So because of where he lines up, they're just going to go man to man across the board.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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JMac
Look at the problem with this congestion and traffic pattern for the defense. How do you get through all that, they're going to release all these guys on the same level and it's going to cause some serious issues when they release off the ball. Watch. McMillan's going to run around and watch the natural pick he gets from the other two guys. He has the throw inside if he really wanted it on the in route, but he puts a beautiful ball up.
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Colin Cowherd
In the air that feels like it's almost unstoppable.
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JMac
Yeah, like that was executed well and it was executed well. It was called at the right time. It was third and short. You knew you were going to get man to man and you trust Baker to make the right decision. If they get zoned off, you're going to read otten to the in route to the back, right? And he trusts them to do that. If you get man, hey, this wheel route's a high alert. Boom. Nailed it. They got man. He told them it was going to be man. He showed him in the walkthrough. He showed him what the motion. It happened in the game. You could tell they're on the same page. Next time it's third and long. So remember, on third and long, if you convert, you know, third and ten plus if you convert one for four, you're probably leading the league. Same thing if you throw, you know, balls over 40 yards in the air, if you hit one for four of those, you're doing fine. Right? So just keep those stats in mind as we roll the next clip, because this next clip is third and 12. So remember, one for four and we're, we're feeling great about ourselves as an offense. So this defense is going to present from the Chargers and Jesse Minter, this sticks coverage. They're going to put all three safeties at the same level, and they're all going to be right where the sticks are. They're going to play everything top down and react to underneath routes because they think these kind of routes are coming. This is what a lot of teams do. They line up in three by one, put your best receiver in a cut split, run them on a shallow cross, and then tell these the other guys to go block. It's basically like a service type play for your best receiver. Hopefully a broken tackle, hopefully a good block. Boom. You get a first down and you luck into one. Great. Or what Liam Cohen wants to do. Dude, let's go. Let's get aggressive. If we're going 1 for 4 on third down, who cares? We're going 1 for 4 on this. Go ball. Let's go. Yeah, we got speed. We got size. We got a quarterback who can rip it. Let's do it every once in a while. I like taking a shot on third and long. And so what do they do? All these DBs get caught on the same level. And watch where Derwin James goes. He's kind of playing the middle field. Safety, he picks to the right. So Baker's like, cool, I'm moving off of you. Baker dropped back, stared right at Derwin James. Derwin James goes right, he goes left. Will you get an east west double team? So in and out, double team. There's only one way to beat it, Colin, and you'll never forget it because it's Olivia Newton John. Not physical, but let's get vertical. Vertical, okay. That's how you beat an east west double team. But the other thing is, apparently he had Mike Evans on his fantasy team because he had three different touchdowns to throw on this play. There's three dudes who could easily get this throw, which is crazy to me, on third and 12, which means those guys were on their heels expecting those underneath routes. You jumped them with your speed. You threw routes right at him, and you blew right by him. So he throws this incredible ball to a future hall of Famer. First ballot. I mean, this was beautiful.
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Colin Cowherd
Look at all open. They have multiple guys over.
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JMac
There's three touchdowns on one play. I mean, the only regret on that play, if I'm Liam Cohen, is like, dang, I wish we could have spread him out. You know what I mean? So it was. It was really fun to watch. I think Baker's. Baker's really coming into his own. And I'm telling you, when he takes care of the football, he had one bad interception yesterday. Other than that, it was just a little late, bad, ready, kind of reactionary kind of throw. And other than that, he played lights out.
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Colin Cowherd
I want to wrap with this. Got a couple of minutes left. If Bengals Joe Burrow barking at a coach. And I appreciate authenticity. I've said this before. I will defend a pro athlete during a game on the sidelines. Manning yelling at Jeff Saturday, Brady yelling at Josh. I will always defend an athlete. What'd you make of it?
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JMac
I mean, you can read his lips and you can tell what he's saying.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, we played, like, blank. Yeah.
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JMac
And I'm sure he's. You know, the coach is trying to give him, hey, man, we're going to be fine. You know, trying to. Trying to love you up and. And I get it. He's so competitive. He gets into a dark space, you know, you can tell when he plays. That dude's nasty. And he's like a hired assassin, you know what I mean? He's like, no emotion. I'm just. I'm here to win, and I don't just want to win. I want to rip your heart out. So it's hard to console people like that, especially in those.
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Colin Cowherd
In the moment.
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JMac
In the moment, you know, your tensions are already high. So what are you going to say? Like, yeah, Coach, you're right. We're going to be okay, or it's okay.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I kind of like that. Burrow standards, though, are. I don't care that we're winning, how we're winning.
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JMac
Yeah. And, you know, he's frustrated, just like a lot of people there in Cincinnati. It's not going exactly the way they thought.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay.
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JMac
And, you know, they're trying to fight for their lives, so it's. And their jobs and job security and all that. So it's, you know, there's a lot going on.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. Patrick Mahomes gets hurt. Carson Wentz is a more than capable backup. Would you worry if you're Andy Reid? Listen, it's late in the season. Xavier Worthy is young. Noah Gray's young. What if. Do you think Annie would go? I'm going to give you two to three weeks off, but I think the receiving core is kind of new. Would you worry about that at all?
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JMac
The relationship between the quarterback and receivers.
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Colin Cowherd
Kelsey, I don't worry about, but, yeah.
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JMac
I think some of it would just be their chemistry in general. The other thing, you know, quarterback to receiver and time on task and stuff like, Mahomes is getting all those reps in practice. He knows the body language, whatever. The other guy's only watching, right? Carson Wentz is only watching those reps, taking in as much as he can. But the one thing I'll say about Andy Reed is go back to whoever's played for him. Every quarterback has had some level of success playing for that guy. I don't care if it's Kevin Cobb, Jeff Garcia, McNabb. The laundry list is long. It's like a CVS receipt. The dude is just a quarterback whisperer. And he's going to put you in great situations and the stuff you can handle, he's going to keep that away from you. And we'll play a little more conservative approach. And if the other team beats us, they beat us. But we're not going to give it away, you know what I mean? And expect you to do something that Patrick does or expect, you know, Kevin Cobb to do something that Michael vicker or Donovan McNabb can do. You know what I mean? Like, he's not going to do that to these players. So that's probably the least of my concerns there. Because I trust the head coach.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, sometimes I think, you know, watching Burrow and watching Mahomes, we forget that it's not just a Sunday business.
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JMac
Oh no, there's a lot. There's a lot that goes.
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Colin Cowherd
That's all we see.
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JMac
Of course, of course.
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Colin Cowherd
But it's. Yeah, the Andy Reid's. Right. Like the ability to play chess, relate.
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JMac
And not to say it's easy not to say he's not gonna, you know.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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JMac
Have some sleepless nights there.
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Colin Cowherd
But again, the last guy to win a Jets playoff game. I will not mention the year. Apparently. That's sensitive.
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JMac
Hey, there's somebody I'm offended.
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Colin Cowherd
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