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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Albert Breer
Yeah, I mean, I think there are teams out there that are contenders. That would make some sense. What are the. What about the Lions? You know, where he could have a complimentary role with Amon Ross, St. Brown and Jameson Williams there. Obviously, he's got the background with Jared Goff from all their years together in Los Angeles. There are some contenders out there. And then, I think, you know, like, maybe where the bigger money would be might be in a place where he could help lay a foundation. And, you know, one place like that would be Jacksonville with Liam Cohen there, you can make a difference for Brian Thomas Jr. Coming off of his rookie year. And really, I think he'd know the expectations of Liam Cohen. He'd know the system. You know, he kind of helped be a torchbearer in a place like that. So I think he's going to have some options out there. Colin, you're just going to have to be comfortable with, A, that he's, you know, probably not quite what he was a couple of years ago, and B, you might be dealing with a guy you only get for 10 or 12 games because that's really what he's been the last three years.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, the Niners making some fairly seismic moves. They wanted to keep Hufanga and Greenlaw. Those are excellent players. Banged up a lot, but excellent, instinctive players. And some of it's just clearing space for Brock Purdy. So they've got some space. But they also released a leak a couple days ago. Like, our negotiations are going to be different now. Which, by the way, is what the Rams have done. They just set a ceiling and said, stafford, this is what you're making. We're not moving off it. You know, signing both IUK and Debo always felt a little much. The Brock Purdy thing, I'm just 44 million. I mean, this stuff matters. When you're talking about a guy who I view as sort of a good player, but he needs players around him to excel.
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Albert Breer
Yeah. And I Think that's why this is going to take a little while, you know, and if you look at the last few years with the Niners, they have let some negotiations drag into the summer. Three years ago was Debo two years ago is Nick Bosa last year with Brandon Iuk. So, you know, we've seen these things, you know, drag and we've seen the Niners have some trouble at the negotiating table that could happen with this one. This is a complicated negotiation. I don't think he'll hold out the way a couple of those other guys did, but I don't think this one's going to be easy either. I think the Niners are kind of where the Rams were two years ago, where the Bills were last year. Both Those teams carried $75 million in dead money into a season and in an attempt to kind of clean their cap out and try to have some more balance going forward and kind of it wasn't going back to square one, but reset their program. I think that's really where the Niners are right now and, and look like, you know, it's tough, you know, because it's, you know, the way that they built and doing it through the draft. They found George Kittle in the fifth round, they found Fred Warner in the fourth round, they found Brock Purdy in the seventh round. Debo Samuel was the second rounder. So it's not easy to do that again. But they have shown the ability to draft and develop over the years, and that's what they're going to have to be good at as they sort of move off of the core that got them to two Super Bowls. You know, I. Again, like, I think a lot of times when you go into these situations, that fan base can panic and look like, well, we're letting go of this guy and we're letting go of that guy, and this is going to be a year where we're completely ripping the band aid off and tank. Yeah. It doesn't have to be what it is. You know, again, the Bills did it last year and they were able to make the playoffs with $75 million in dead money. The year before that, the Rams did it, made the playoffs with $75 million in dead money. So I wouldn't rule out the Niners team that's been really good over the last few years and with, you know, a head coach and a general manager who really know what they're doing, being able to draft and develop their way out of this.
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Colin Cowherd
So I think the Bears, I. Two of my favorite moves were Joe Tooney and Drew Dullman for a young quarterback. I love those. Not sexy, but I love them. And J. Mac, there's a rumor out today that Genty, the running back from Boise State, is going to go to Chicago. Now J. Mac says they want to leak that because they know Genty. There's three or four teams that want him and they want teams moving up. So I got, you know, Cluso over here, Inspector Clouseau. My take is, I don't know, I think they want another edge rusher. I, I don't know, I kind of like, I think there's a defensive need for them more than a running back need. What do you, what do you make of the Bears offseason and, and the Gente rumor?
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Albert Breer
Well, they just spent almost $20 million a year on Dio Yingbo. I gotta still get the pronunciation of his name right. The address from the Colts to play opposite Montez Sweat. They've invested in Javon Kinlaw at defensive tackle and then like you said on the offensive line, adding Joe Tuni and, and Drew Dahlman and Jonah Jackson from the Rams also, they've sort of reimagined what they are up front on both sides of the ball. And that mirrors what Ben Johnson was a part of in Detroit. If you look at the foundation of the teams in Detroit, they spent money, they spent draft capital on linemen. Penne Sewell was their first draft pick. The next year, they spent the second overall pick on Aiden Hutchinson. There were other guys they got later in the draft like Elaine McNeil had been foundation pieces. They obviously inherited Frank Ragnow and Taylor Decker there. And you know, I, I think if you look at, you know what, what Ben Johnson would want to build in Chicago would be similar. And so you're seeing that investment on the lines if you want to bring Ashton Genti into the conversation. Okay, here's the way I look at that one. There are people out there and we've heard Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter in some order are the number one and number two guys in this year's draft class. Right? I've heard some people put Ashton Genty in that territory too. Now you, you don't value him the same way you would a two way player who could play receiver in corner two premium positions or an edge rusher. Right? Like so the positional value isn't there. But if you view Ashton, Jenny, that Genti that way, where he's in that class of player, wasn't there a team recently that surprised everybody by taking a running back in the first round and got a really big payoff, Right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
That was Jameer Gibbs with the Lions.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
So that's, you know, part of Ben Johnson's past as well. So it's interesting. It's another way of investing in your young quarterback where you can take some of the pressure off of him by having a really productive running game. Yeah, the running backs who get drafted high and have been productive players after being drafted high. Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliott, you know, obviously like Peterson. Yeah, well, no, a couple of years ago with both. With both Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs, those guys bring value in the past game, too, you know, and Ashton Genti can do that as well. So, I mean, it wouldn't floor me if. If they took a running back in the first round because of Ben Johnson's past and because of what it could mean for Caleb Williams.
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Colin Cowherd
So it's interesting. Denver and Sean Payton made a couple interesting moves. Hufanga's been hurt a lot. Same with Greenlaw. Good players, insanely instinctive smart guys. And my take was Sean Payton thought, listen, I got to 25 points a game last year with Bo Nix as a rookie. If I can squeeze a little more juice out of him, 26 and a half, 27 in a game. If you look at the games that they scored like 25 or more last year, they went 9 and 1. And I can see Peyton saying, I'll squeeze the offense. I'll squeeze the juice out of the offense. I got to get our defense, which got kind of tired at the end of the year because a lot of people look at those moves and say they're risky, but I think Bo Nix was actually better than Sean thought as a rookie at quarterback. What say you?
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Albert Breer
Yeah, this is a. This is another one where you can look at a guy's past like Sean Payton over the years. They didn't pay skill position players, really, until the very end when they had both Michael Thomas and Alvin Camara on big contracts. Remember, they paid Jimmy Graham. They wound up trading him a year after they. They paid him. I mean, if you want to go way back, Marcus Colson, but you can't find a ton of skill players they paid in New Orleans. They paid the quarterback, they paid the offensive lineman, they paid the defense. And so I think this does reflect the way that they built in New Orleans. And I think it's Sean Payton's belief that he can make it work with younger players or lesser players at the skill positions because of what he's able to do. Schematically and so I think this is really Sean Payton looking and saying we had the number one defense in the NFL last year. We have Patrick certain, we have a couple of young edge rushers that are still on their rookie deals are coming off, just coming off their rookie deals and Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper and we can take the defense to the next level. We've got a chance here to take a really good defense and make it a great defense by adding guys like Drake Greenlaw and, and Hufanga right down the middle. And so I, you know, I look at it as Sean Payton's belief in himself that, hey, I can find a joker, as he calls it. I can find a receiver in the draft. They did it last year with the two rookies they drafted, Vale and Franklin. I can find those guys in the draft that I can develop and I can fit to my offense. Let's go spend everywhere else and I'll make it work schematically because of what I bring to the table. Exactly what he did in New Orleans and I think it's what he's going to try to do again in Denver this year.
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Colin Cowherd
That's good stuff. The. I will tell you, there's. There's one team they lost Joe Tuney, they're going to go with a backup niner tackle at left tackle. I don't know. I watched, I watched this offense struggle last year, get pushed around by a couple of team Raiders gave him fits up front. Kansas City goes into this season. I don't love the O line. It's hard to be a great team. Albert with a mediocre below average O line, is it not?
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Albert Breer
Yeah. And you know, they were going to take a swing on Ronnie Stanley too. And I think their number was going to be right around where Baltimore's number was for Ronnie Stanley and, and obviously Baltimore is able to take him off the market two days before free agency starts. So that was their plan, was to invest in one of the best left tackles in football. Doesn't work out for them. So they have to go to plan B, which is really projecting a guy. You know, like they look at Jalen Moore and they see some talent there. He obviously had limited snaps. It was. Those really came when Trent Williams was hurt. But they saw a guy like, okay, we'll bring him in. We got a two year deal, $30 million. It's not crazy money. And we'll project him to be a little bit more than he was in San Francisco. Will it work out? We'll see. I don't think it's the only dart they're going to throw at that position. I don't know how much longer Juwan Taylor is going to be there at right tackle. Like this might be his last year there. So I still think that they're going to spend significant draft capital on the tackle position and try to get that right. I mean, I, I, we've seen they've done it over the last few years. Wanya Morris was a young guy that they tried to bring along. Kingsley Sue Mattia is moving inside the left guard now. You know, really for the Chiefs, this is going to be about throwing a bunch of darts at the position and trying to get it right. And again, I don't think they're done throwing those darts. Wanya Morris will be in that mix now. You know, now they bring in Jalen Moore, like you said, from San Francisco to be in that mix, and I think they'll probably draft another tackle somewhere in the top hundred picks or so.
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Colin Cowherd
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Albert Breer
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Colin Cowherd
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J. Mac
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Colin Cowherd
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Larison Campbell
There's a Type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.
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Unknown
It's terrible, terrible dirt.
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Larison Campbell
Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.
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Albert Breer
7,000 bodies out there or more, all.
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Larison Campbell
Former patients of the old state asylum, and nobody knew they were there.
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Albert Breer
It was my family's mystery.
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Larison Campbell
But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.
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Colin Cowherd
Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.
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Larison Campbell
When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.
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Unknown
The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.
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Larison Campbell
I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to Under Yazu Clay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
Finally, it's inevitable. An Aaron Rodgers question. I mean, I don't love this. The Steeler.
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Albert Breer
I don't know if anybody knows exactly what he's gonna do. You don't want to be honest with you. I think only Aaron knows.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, is that a word? Is that where we're at? I mean, seriously.
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Albert Breer
Yeah. So, I mean, I think to. So just having talked to some people who know him and, you know, who understand the experiences that he's had and everything else, here's how I would compare the two opportunities that he's got. Right? So you have the one opportunity in Pittsburgh where you're really asking him to be the finishing piece, and he's coming in, and he'd be coming in and playing with some guys that really are his peers. Right? Like, so T.J. watt, Minka, Fitzpatrick, those guys are going to be operating with the same level of urgency that he's operating with. They've got a young offensive line that I think's got a chance to be really good. They're bringing in DK Metcalf. That's another win. Now move. So you look at it, it's a team that's been good for a long time, just hasn't been great in a while, right? So what are you asking him to do? You're asking him to come in and be the last piece. I think if he goes to the Giants, you're asking him to be the difference maker. Now, they could be really good. They've got Brian Burns, they've got Cave on Thibodeau. They've got Dexter Lawrence. They brought in a couple of young guys to play in their secondary. Paulson Adibo, I think, has a chance to be a really good player for Malik. Neighbors on offense. Bring him back. You know, Andrew Thomas at left tackle. Tyrone Tracy has potential at running back, but isn't that sort of what he just did with the Jets? Right, like where the jets were asking him to be the difference maker with a younger team and that didn't really work. Pittsburgh is asking for something different. Pittsburgh is saying, like, we just need somebody to put us over the top of the position. So I do wonder if that's going to be a factor in his decision making. Again, only he knows and he's very private about these things. And I don't know what the timeline is. It could happen in 10 minutes, it could happen in 10 days. But, you know, I do think, you know, we're all product of our own experiences and I, and I look at this like Pittsburgh offers him as something that's a little bit different than, than what he went through with the jets, where I think the Giants would be asking him to do something similar to what the jets were asking him to do a couple ago.
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Colin Cowherd
Albert Brer, Monday morning quarterback on a very fun week. A few other things. Cooper Cups going to get let go by the Rams. Keep your eye on that as always, Albert. Great stuff.
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Albert Breer
Awesome. Thanks, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
What a fun day. What a fun week. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
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Unknown
All right, Colin, we have Zion Williamson in the news. Remember that guy, the Duke superstar? Well, he's really turned it on in the second half of the season. The Pelicans stink. He had his second career triple double last night in the win over the Paperclips. However, the self proclaimed leader of the big man alliance, that's Shaq, is not impressed. You giving them props to that?
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Colin Cowherd
I need more.
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Unknown
Yeah, I need more.
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Albert Breer
28.
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Unknown
I need 26, 27. I demand for my franchise player. You pay at the maximum.
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Colin Cowherd
Don't be giving five to 20 points. Anybody get 20 points now, huh?
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Unknown
We have an edict on the show now. When the haters hate, we're gonna call them out. Zion, who's had a rough career, right, Injury plagued, fun to watch, finally gets a second career triple double. We should be applauding it. And Shaq is like only 20 points. That's it. What are we doing, Colin? Come on.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I.
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Unknown
What's with the negativity?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Zion's had a turbulent career. I still contend he's one of those guys. There's always guys like this in the league. He's always like four seconds away from the greatest player I've ever seen. He's a fun watch. Ja Morant has that. Steph Curry's got that. There's about four guys in the league. Jaw staff, Zion, you're like, what did I just see? So I, I, at this point, if I'm the Pelicans, if he's playing, I'm good, thrilled. If you say, hey, Zion's giving me 32 tonight. 32 minutes, and I don't even care what the result is. I like the energy. Colin.
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Unknown
There's a world where if I told you for the next six seasons Zion was going to play 70 or more.
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Colin Cowherd
Games, oh, I'd take it.
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Unknown
Today he has a chance to be the face of the league.
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Colin Cowherd
You gave me 65 plus and a playoff spot. I'd take it.
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Unknown
He's got a chance to.
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Colin Cowherd
He's too bumpy.
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Unknown
You know how much people love this guy. Zion Williams, hugely popular, just got to stay healthy and play. He's a human highlight reel. He's Dominic Wilkins.
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Colin Cowherd
You think he's going to be the face of the league?
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Unknown
No, no. He's going to stay healthy for like six years.
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Colin Cowherd
He's got to go to New York to do that. There's never going to be a guy in New Orleans that's face of the league.
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Unknown
So you're trying to draw.
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Colin Cowherd
Drew Brees was not face of the league. He was great. That's football, too. The NFL doesn't matter. NBA matters. Baseball matters. Nobody for the Rays is going to be face of the league. Nobody for the Orioles is going to be face of the league. Cal Ripken Jr. Was not the face of the league. He was a great player up there. Sam Darnold's up there.
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Unknown
All right, next story is the big NBA matchup tonight that you're canceling dinner plans for Thunder at the Celtics. The last time these two teams played the Thunder defense held Boston in check. The producers on the show, of course love, absolutely love the OKC Thunder. So they would. They wanted me to let you guys know that Boston could do nothing against SGA and company last time. Now Jalen Williams is out tonight. He will not play. As Rachel Nichols said, there's still concern over Porzingis. We don't know about Tatum. You think they need Tatum tonight or remember when you said The Celtics were 10 and two without Tatum?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Unknown
Here. Here it is. Last time Celtics met okc. Maybe they were coming off a New.
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Colin Cowherd
Year's Eve bender last time they played the Tatum play.
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Unknown
I would assume so.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And they shot 19 from three.
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Unknown
It's a bad game.
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Colin Cowherd
Speaking of face of the league, how'd that. Oh, that's a face plant. Oh, I'm starting to sound like Barkley.
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Unknown
You start. Yeah, seriously.
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Colin Cowherd
Maybe I'll turn on those guys too.
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Unknown
Yeah. So sga, your mvp, I believe. Right. What if he goes into Boston so they lose to Denver on a back to back with no Aaron Gordon?
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Colin Cowherd
I've already made my mind up. I don't need another.
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Unknown
You don't need to hear the question. And what if they go to Boston and lose to a depleted Celtics team? Are you still buying the Thunder as a championship contender?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. The season's winding down. You're resting, guys. By the way, Tatum had 26 in that game. The staff says, you know, here's the thing, folks. The staff loves Tatum and they get annoyed when I'm critical of Jason Tatum because like, like the staff, Tatum is young and promising. So they're like, oh, Tatum's great. The boss just doesn't like him. Just because some of the people on the staff, I don't like.
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Unknown
Some days Coward is really on one. Today you just. Anything goes here. Wow, this is wild.
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Colin Cowherd
When you have magnesium, you start your night and day with magnesium. Stuff goes sideways. That's all I'm going to say.
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Unknown
Well, let's see if this is not.
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Colin Cowherd
A hallucinogenic, but I slept like I, you know, got conked in the head.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Unknown
This final topic could get you off on a tangent. And the Rams are releasing wide receiver Cooper cup. He is 31 years old. I would expect him to be coveted on the open market. However, we have had some graphics. I don't know if we're going to show this one where Cooper cup basically had one amazing season. Colin 2021. Right. There it is on the screen. 1900 yards. This was when they won the Super Bowl, I'm pretty sure. And then in the years past since then, he's done like very little. I'm not calling him a one year wonder or anything like that. No, he's a great route runner. I just don't think there's going to be some sort of low level bidding war for Cooper Cup.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it tells you there, even with Puka, Puka's been banged up. They went and got another star. So because Puka misses time, I think.
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Unknown
Cooper cup loves it out here and I would not be surprised if the Chargers made a run at him.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. If I could get him for nothing or, or a very small note, like the Chargers right now lost Palmer. So they've got basically they need a tight end, a running back and two receivers.
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Unknown
Cooper cup is better than Josh Palmer and I know Palmer's got some promise. He's tough.
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Colin Cowherd
Cops better.
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Unknown
Cooper cup is better. So I think cup could at land with the Chargers. He loves it out here.
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Colin Cowherd
I bet you they're talking right now.
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Unknown
I think the Chiefs are going to make a run of them. They released DeAndre Hopkins. Rasheed Rice is coming off the injuries. Got some stuff off the field. Xavier Worthy limited.
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Colin Cowherd
Doesn't it come down to how much of the salary are the Rams going to pay? I think the Chargers would take him tomorrow, but they don't want to. Spano's family doesn't want to pay the money.
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Unknown
You want to move to Kansas City for one year for 10 mil or do you want to stay with the Chargers for a year for five?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, the kid played high school football, went to college at Cheney, Washington and grew up.
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Unknown
Are you saying Seahawks get in the mix?
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Colin Cowherd
No, I'm saying if you grow up, if you play college football in Cheney, Washington, you're fine moving to Kansas City. Oh, oh. You made it sound like you didn't want to go to Kansas City.
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Unknown
Do you want to move to the mid one year?
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Colin Cowherd
That's it.
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Unknown
That's it.
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Colin Cowherd
It would be like, you know, Kansas City is the only city of size in America I've never been to. I don't think that's the whole country. That's the only one.
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Unknown
And I have friends there every other city. Have you been to Sacramento?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, multiple times. Why?
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Unknown
Just kidding.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it was the American river, so I went rafting in Sacramento. Oh, the amazing whitewater rafting.
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Unknown
I've only been here eight years. I don't know California that well. I'm. I didn't know there was a river in Sacramento.
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Albert Breer
Really?
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Unknown
I thought it was a desert out there basically and.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's not out there. It's up there. Up there. It's up there. You should drive. I got my first speeding ticket in Eureka. I did. No, I've been to every ounce of the state. I'm Fresno west, east, everywhere.
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Unknown
I'm trying to think of another mid major city. Des Moines.
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Colin Cowherd
I've been. I've been to wherever the University of Iowa is. I've been there. I went.
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Unknown
No, no, Ames is.
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Colin Cowherd
No, Ames is Iowa State. I've been to Iowa. I went to this bar that had an aviation theme and great pizza in. In wherever Iowa is located at.
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Unknown
You've got this like Beautiful Mind thing going on today. Where you're just pulling stuff out of your past.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I've been taking ticket in Eureka. I got. Oh, I remember. I remember.
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Unknown
Was that 1987.
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Colin Cowherd
It was like a smokey in the Bandit. I was going to go for it, but I just had a, I had an AMC Pacer, so. So Iowa's in Iowa City. I've been to Iowa City. One of the more beautiful sunsets I've ever seen in Iowa.
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Unknown
Biloxi, Mississippi.
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Colin Cowherd
I have not spent a lot of time there.
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Albert Breer
No.
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Unknown
Memphis.
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Colin Cowherd
I've been to Memphis.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Albert Breer
Yeah.
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Unknown
I have to.
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Colin Cowherd
I had the scariest landing in my life on a, on a flight in. Lightning hit, lightning hit the Runway as we were landing. We were about 150ft from the Runway. Lightning hit the Runway and we went up and circled it. Not a great landing. So I never went back. I'm done with that city. That's a bad vibe city. I needed magnesium after that flight. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for.
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Albert Breer
Stopping by the Herd lie news.
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Colin Cowherd
When I have a bad night's sleep, I don't even want to be here. But when I have a good night's sleep, I don't. I can't control my energy. Like I'm just, I'll be exhausted two minutes after the show. I'll have nothing. But I gave you everything. You just know I gave you everything. I gave you a Jokic. I gave you 40, 20, 20.
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Unknown
Today was just an empty tomorrow.
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Colin Cowherd
I am, I'm going to give you my predictions. I am going to give you my division predictions tomorrow for I think I'm going to do AFC into nfc.
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Unknown
Show's going to need a little more J. Mac tomorrow.
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Colin Cowherd
You can be hurt. I think we, I think we're full on the old gas tank with J. Mac live in la. The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together. I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Ko Vino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media, that's Covino and Rich.
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- [31:07]
Larison Campbell
There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo Clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.
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Unknown
It's terrible, terrible dirt.
- [31:17]
Larison Campbell
Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.
- [31:30]
Albert Breer
7,000 bodies out there or more, all.
- [31:34]
Larison Campbell
Former patients of the old State asylum, and nobody knew they were there.
- [31:39]
Albert Breer
It was my family's mystery.
- [31:41]
Larison Campbell
But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.
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Colin Cowherd
Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.
- [31:49]
Larison Campbell
When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo Clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.
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Unknown
The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.
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Larison Campbell
I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to under yazukle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [32:11]
Jeremy Hobson
We live in a divided country.
- [32:13]
Colin Cowherd
I am a lifelong Republican with all.
- [32:16]
Jeremy Hobson
Kinds of different people.
- [32:17]
Colin Cowherd
You know, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother.
- [32:20]
Jeremy Hobson
That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation.
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Albert Breer
Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas.
- [32:30]
Jeremy Hobson
Each week we bring together an all star panel. Mark Cuban, so great to have you on the Middle.
- [32:35]
Albert Breer
Thanks for having me, Jeremy.
- [32:36]
Jeremy Hobson
Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle.
- [32:38]
Colin Cowherd
Thanks for having me.
- [32:39]
Jeremy Hobson
And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important issues.
- [32:43]
Albert Breer
Hi, my name is Venkat. I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia.
- [32:47]
Jeremy Hobson
And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.
- [32:56]
Colin Cowherd
We should be examining what our government spends its money on and are these jobs necessary and what are we doing here? But that doesn't seem to be what we're doing in this situation.
- [33:04]
Jeremy Hobson
Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
We had Albert Brear on today of the NFL free agency period. And nobody spent huge money except like New England. And they, they got a lot of B players and that. Nothing wrong with that. They filled gaps. Let, let's do our winners and losers. So far, I think there's five or six teams that stick out. I think the Bears adding three key starters on their offensive line, which was ranked 24th, that helps. Obviously Caleb Williams. And also they could go get a running back in the draft to add value to Caleb Williams. So once the O line's good, the quarterback's better, the running back room will be better. So I, I think they're a clear winner so far. I like the direction. Clearly Ben Johnson now is running the show. I think the jets are a loser. They downgraded at quarterback and paid a lot for it. They lost some good players. Devonte Adams, Morgan Moses, J D Reed, DJ Reed. Excuse me. And frankly, Aaron Rodgers played well at the end of the season. So I don't like. And I don't know if Aaron Glenn's gonna work. I don't know. I think Washington comes across as a winner again. They got very dependent on Terry McLaurin. So they go out and get Debo Samuel. Then they get a great pass blocking left tackle. Kinlaw, defensive tackle. I just like, I like the chess piece of Debo Samuel. I think it works. I don't like what the Steelers did. I think they massively overpaid for what they already have a high maintenance wide receiver. I think DK Metcalf and George Pickens share some of the same qualities. They gave five years, 150 million in a second round pick for DK Metcalfe. I don't like that at all. They also lost Najee Harris, their left tackle, to Tennessee. I just don't like the Steelers offseason at all. And I think the Patriots, just based on volume, had a very good. I mean they upgraded in the trenches. They added a cornerback to Christian Gonzalez. So I think that it leaves it wide open for them to go get a running back, Travis Hunter to get some dynamic speed, which they really lack. So I like what the Bears did, the Commanders did and the Patriots did. I don't like the jets and the Steelers at all. So it's not ironic the jets and the Steelers may just swap quarterbacks. J. Mac had a Adam Schefter story that kind of sounds like it's leaked by the teams.
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Unknown
Yeah. So it's kind of interesting. He's come out and been like, hey, Aaron Rodgers is really holding things up and he alludes to nobody knowing why. What's taking so long? Why is this, why are you dragging this out for four days? Just, you know, kind of make a decision. And I wonder if that's coming from the Giants because listen, if the Giants don't land Rogers, they have to settle for what Russell Wilson.
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Colin Cowherd
So what, what's, what's he reporting?
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Unknown
He's reporting that Aaron Rodgers is like holding teams hostage, essentially. That's so Aaron right on brand for him. But Colin, if the Giants don't get a quarterback, they almost certainly have to trade up to two to get to two to get a quarterback. Right. You can't take a second round guy who's your dude from Ohio State, transfer to Syracuse, McCord. You can't take him and expect to keep your job. Right.
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Colin Cowherd
It says here Schefter says both the Steelers and Giants have said they want to sign Aaron Rodgers.
- [36:23]
Unknown
He's just uncertain. He's. I don't know. We'll see.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. Ask yourself, what would you do? So now think about this. You got to the Steelers just lost their left tackle. Total defensive culture. But a better roster. The Giants, I've already got a house that I love in New York. I know the market.
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Unknown
They're just play.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm playing in the same stadium. I have an excellent left tackle. Actually I have an offensive coach. So I mean just you have to consider everything. It's. I'm thinking, if I was Aaron, I don't have to move. I get an excellent left tackle, a star weapon, an offensive coach. I think. Now you think I'm crazy on this or I go to a. The. The Steelers cannot get their whole line right. They just lost their left tackle and it's a completely tone deaf offensive culture. Do you think it's crazy? I almost think the Giants a better fit. I get day ball, neighbors and Thomas a left tackle.
- [37:17]
Unknown
Do you remember how Belichick went through this? Why doesn't anybody want me? And he was like a little. I wonder if Rogers is going through some of that now. How. How did the Raiders not want me? I could have crushed with the Raiders.
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Colin Cowherd
Aaron's.
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Unknown
How did Seattle not want me?
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Colin Cowherd
I don't think he cares.
- [37:31]
Unknown
Why would he? You don't think Aaron Rodgers cares about that stuff?
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Colin Cowherd
I can't read his mind. No. But just think about, you know, I've moved cross country three or four times. You. I always get a yellow pad and I write stuff down.
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Unknown
Pros and cons, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. I've done this like four times. And what matters to Aaron Rodgers, he doesn't want to get hit. I get an elite left tackle or the Steelers don't have one. I get an offensive coach who's pretty damn good or a coach that's tone deaf to offense.
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Unknown
But who's got the better receivers?
- [38:03]
Colin Cowherd
Well, right now Neighbors is a stud.
- [38:06]
Unknown
He's a stud.
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Colin Cowherd
But DK Metcalf and Pickens, I think they're gonna move Pickens at some point. I gotta tell you something. I'll take Neighbors over both those guys because I think he. I, DK Metcalf has a limited route tree and he's gonna come in big money. Give me the ball. I don't want to deal with that nonsense. I. You think it's crazy, but if you're writing down pros and cons don't have to move. Excellent elite left tackle offensive coach. The only thing I don't like is it feels like you're a savior, which I don't want to be. But you know, Aaron may like the idea of, hey, you better listen to me or both the coach and the.
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Unknown
GM are out of work at the same time. Don't you think they're third best in the division even with they're not better than Washington?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, you think. You think I got Lamar Jackson and Burrow in the other division or I got the Eagles and Washington better than the Browns?
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Unknown
If Lamar If Rodgers goes to the Steelers, are they better than the Bengals?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, where is PFF ranked the Giants roster, like 17th, 18th.
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Unknown
It's not great.
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Colin Cowherd
It's not as good as the Jets.
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Unknown
The Steelers went to the playoffs last year. For what it's worth, I know they didn't win anything. I would lean culture Steelers, but I don't know if you know Roger culture.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean the Steelers have. They have the better roster. There's no doubting that Steelers have the better roster.
- [39:21]
Unknown
Better head coach.
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Colin Cowherd
I. Although. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Yeah. But there, there's stay where I live. Great left tackle, offensive coach, young elite weapon. I can see being like, you know, okay, I'm good.
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Unknown
They're not the Midwest technically, is it?
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Colin Cowherd
Pittsburgh's a weird city. It's. It feels east coast, but if you, if you go to Pittsburgh and live in Pittsburgh, it feels much more like Ohio than New York. So I would say it's Midwest.
- [39:46]
Unknown
Okay.
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Colin Cowherd
On a map, it feels East. It's more Midwest. Philadelphia feels East Coast. It's just the city.
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Unknown
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Colin Cowherd
This is Nikki Glaser from the Nikki Glaser Podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out and you can learn more by following.
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Unknown
What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101 free agents, we'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Jeremy Hobson
We live in a divided country, and our media couldn't be more polarizing. That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Each week we hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country, and we used to subscribe to the Middle. You also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news. Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.