Hour 3 - Urban Meyer

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd: Hour 3 - Urban Meyer

Release Date: December 6, 2024
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Duration: Approximately 40 minutes
Participants: Urban Meyer, Anya Packer, Madison Packer

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1. Introduction to Urban Meyer’s Insights

In this episode, Colin Cowherd sits down with former college football coach Urban Meyer alongside Anya and Madison Packer to delve into the latest happenings in college and professional football. The discussion primarily centers around Urban Meyer’s perspectives on recent games, coaching philosophies, and the evolving landscape of football.

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2. Ohio State vs. Michigan: A Critical Analysis

Timestamp [03:15 - 04:40]

The conversation kicks off with a detailed analysis of the Ohio State vs. Michigan game. Urban Meyer expresses his disappointment with the performance, highlighting strategic errors and quarterback confidence issues.

Notable Quote:
Urban Meyer [04:09]: “As a coach, you're there on the sideline, your defense is playing phenomenal. The opponent is really struggling. You throw a turnover early in the game and give them a freebie, you know, and you maybe lose a little confidence in your quarterback.”

Meyer discusses the decision-making process during the game, attributing Michigan's resurgence to strategic adaptations by Coach Ryan Day after early setbacks.

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3. Handling Devastating Losses

Timestamp [04:56 - 06:02]

Urban Meyer reflects on his personal response to significant losses, emphasizing resilience and forward momentum.

Notable Quote:
Urban Meyer [05:06]: “I lose. Shoot, I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep for months after that. Here's the problem. When you lose that game to the Wolverines… you got to rinse and repeat, man. You got to go. You got to not worry about it.”

He contrasts his own approach with that of current coaches like Ryan Day, who encourage players to move past defeats swiftly to maintain focus on upcoming challenges.

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4. Perspectives on Top College Football Teams

Timestamp [06:02 - 07:22]

The discussion shifts to the top-tier college football programs: Texas, Oregon, and Georgia. Meyer praises Texas’s disciplined coaching and robust defense, drawing parallels to his successful 2008 Florida team.

Notable Quote:
Urban Meyer [07:22]: “They are the number one team in the country. They play faster than anyone else in the country.”

He lauds Oregon’s speed and defensive prowess, particularly highlighting coordinator Tosh Lepoi’s impact.

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5. Spotlight on Quarterback Will Howard

Timestamp [10:01 - 11:20]

Anya Packer brings attention to quarterback Will Howard’s performance, analyzing his potential and consistency. Meyer commends Howard’s stamina and ability to perform under pressure despite early critiques.

Notable Quote:
Urban Meyer [10:26]: “This kid is legit. I can't wait to see him tonight. We're here. I can't wait to see him.”

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6. Comparisons with NFL Coaching: Belichick and Future Prospects

Timestamp [11:05 - 12:40]

The conversation veers into comparisons between college and NFL coaching, with special mention of Bill Belichick’s enduring legacy. Meyer expresses admiration for Belichick's commitment despite age and acknowledges the challenges of transitioning between college and professional coaching roles.

Notable Quote:
Urban Meyer [12:13]: “I couldn't do that. I'd have to say, get out. Get out of the office. You know, let's have a chat.”

He candidly states his intention not to return to coaching, valuing his current life and career balance.

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7. NFL Coaching Landscape: Chicago Bears and Deion Sanders Speculation

Timestamp [21:05 - 24:49]

Anya and Madison shift focus to the NFL, discussing the Chicago Bears' coaching situation and speculating on potential hires like Deion Sanders for the Raiders.

Notable Quote:
Anya Packer [22:07]: “Harbaugh was the perfect fit because he's great with quarterbacks, young quarterbacks. He's a culture creator and he wins immediately.”

Madison and Anya debate the implications of coaching changes, the Bears' current strategies, and the broader NFL coaching market.

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8. Sports Betting and Game Predictions: "Tomorrow's Headlines Today"

Timestamp [29:00 - 37:55]

The segment introduces “Tomorrow's Headlines Today,” where Anya and Madison provide their predictions and betting insights for upcoming NFL and college football games. They discuss key matchups, player performances, and strategic outcomes.

Notable Highlights:

• Dolphins vs. Jets: Favoring the Dolphins due to Jets' struggles and player doubts.
• Panthers vs. Eagles: Predicting a strong performance by the Eagles, especially against a weak Panthers run defense.
• Chargers vs. Chiefs: Leaning towards the Chiefs based on Chargers’ offensive inconsistencies and injuries.

For college football, the focus is on the Texas vs. Georgia game, with Anya supporting Georgia’s robust performance and Texas’s disciplined approach.

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9. College Football Playoff Outlook

Timestamp [33:41 - 37:55]

Urban Meyer's insights on the College Football Playoff are discussed, highlighting team strengths, coaching strategies, and player potentials. The conversation underscores the importance of quarterback performance and team resilience in securing playoff victories.

Notable Quote:
Anya Packer [38:17]: “I think if their first playoff game December 20th, you know, that's when it starts. If they're in Columbus, they'll win.”

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10. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Timestamp [39:57 - 42:48]

As the episode wraps up, Anya and Madison reflect on the day's discussions, reiterating key points about coaching strategies, team performances, and future prospects in both college and professional football. Urban Meyer offers closing remarks on his satisfaction with his current endeavors and leaves listeners with thoughts on the dynamic nature of football coaching.

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Key Takeaways:

• Urban Meyer’s Coaching Philosophy: Emphasizes resilience, quick recovery from losses, and maintaining focus on future games.
• Team Analyses: Texas, Oregon, and Georgia are highlighted as top contenders with specific strengths in speed, defense, and disciplined coaching.
• Player Spotlight: Will Howard is recognized for his potential and consistency as a quarterback.
• Coaching Comparisons: Urban Meyer appreciates Bill Belichick’s legacy while expressing contentment with his retirement from coaching.
• NFL Speculations: Discussions include potential coaching hires and the Chicago Bears' strategic directions.
• Betting Insights: Anya and Madison provide informed predictions on upcoming NFL and college football games, focusing on key matchups and player performances.

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Notable Quotes:

• Urban Meyer [04:09]: “As a coach, you're there on the sideline, your defense is playing phenomenal. The opponent is really struggling. You throw a turnover early in the game and give them a freebie, you know, and you maybe lose a little confidence in your quarterback.”

• Urban Meyer [05:06]: “I lose. Shoot, I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep for months after that. Here's the problem. When you lose that game to the Wolverines… you got to rinse and repeat, man. You got to go. You got to not worry about it.”

• Urban Meyer [07:22]: “They are the number one team in the country. They play faster than anyone else in the country.”

• Urban Meyer [10:26]: “This kid is legit. I can't wait to see him tonight. We're here. I can't wait to see him.”

• Urban Meyer [12:13]: “I couldn't do that. I'd have to say, get out. Get out of the office. You know, let's have a chat.”

• Anya Packer [22:07]: “Harbaugh was the perfect fit because he's great with quarterbacks, young quarterbacks. He's a culture creator and he wins immediately.”

• Anya Packer [38:17]: “I think if their first playoff game December 20th, you know, that's when it starts. If they're in Columbus, they'll win.”

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This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" offers an in-depth look into coaching strategies, team dynamics, and the future of football, enriched by Urban Meyer’s experienced perspectives and the insightful analyses of Anya and Madison Packer.

Transcript

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, one of the great college football coaches of all time, Urban Meyer. Three national championships, two at Florida, one with the Buckeyes, now part of the big noon kickoff. All right, so let's go back and address the Ohio State stuff. So there's two schools of thought. First of all, when you come in as a heavy favorite, you can be a little cautious, perhaps as a coach, maybe that was Ryan Day. There's the other argument that Will Howard was not on his game and he looked at that Michigan offense and said, you know what? We're going to win this thing 1710. It's just we're going to get out of this thing. We don't want to, we don't want to play around here. You tell me when you watch that, do you think Will Howard and Will Howard has been a bit hot and cold for my taste, but he's talented, kid. It was part of this Ryan Day changing a game plan in game when he wasn't real confident in his quarterback after early mistakes.

[Urban Meyer]

You know, I watched this thing a couple times because I'm on the Big Ten Network on Sundays and I was there and I really couldn't believe what I watched in person. And I spoke to Ryan Day this week and, you know, we've all been there. As a coach, you're there on the sideline, your defense is playing phenomenal. The opponent is really struggling. You throw a turnover early in the game and give them a freebie, you know, and you maybe lose a little confidence in your quarterback. It was a little bit of blustering wind out there.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah.

[Urban Meyer]

You know, I could come up with all kinds of different reasons, but we've all been there and I'm sure if Coach Day and Chip Kelly had another opportunity, they'd probably make do a little thing, a bunch of a few things differently.

[Anya Packer]

When you had a devastating loss in your career, it's agonizing. How do you attack it as a coach?

[Urban Meyer]

Well, I'm the poster child on not how not to handle it. I lose. Shoot, I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep for months after that. Here's the problem. When you lose that game to the Wolverines, you know, in the old days, you went to bad bowl game and you got pissed off and you just started working again for next year. Ohio State's in the. In the hunt. They're still one of the top teams, if not the most talented team in the country. They've got playoffs, they got this going. So you got to rinse and repeat, man. You got to go. You got to not worry about it. I talked to Coach Day about it and he said absolutely. And players are more resilient than coaches. Players know you go out and practice a couple times. You know, they got their careers to think about. They got their performance and they got the reality of playoff team coming up. So you just got to move on. You know, it's a much different era with this playoff than it was in the old day when you lost a game like that because you had to, you know, you had to eat that thing for a whole year. You don't. It's over. Move on to the next one.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah. I still think the three best teams I've seen are Ohio State, Texas and Oregon. Oregon plays this week, tomorrow against Penn State. When I see Oregon, I don't quite see Texas, Ohio State athletes close. What I see is speed and coaching. How would you. I mean, they spread you out. They got California speed everywhere. When you look at Oregon, what would terrify you as a defensive coach or a coaching staff facing Oregon if you're Penn State this week?

[Urban Meyer]

I think they're the fastest team in the country. And I don't talk about 40 yard times. I talk about the way they play. And defensively, they had 10 sacks last week against Washington. And Tosh Lepoi, the D coordinator, is phenomenal. He used to be on my staff. I love that dude. He's. They play like him. He's a nut. You know, he's intense.

[Anya Packer]

He's just.

[Urban Meyer]

Everything's full speed. They play like that on defense, on offense. I mean, they're legit, legit, you know, and I didn't know that. I went out and saw him in spring practice and I thought probably a lot like you did. I don't exactly see Ohio State or Georgia or Texas, but I'm watching them now and they are the right. They are the number one team in the country. They play faster than anyone else in the country.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah, they're really fun to watch. I've been so lucky through the years to get a cover. And they're so much fun to watch. Texas, I've always said this. There's three glamour programs in college football, Miami and Coral Gables, USC and Texas. And it offers their own challenges. Now when they win, the media goes gaga. And you turn on any sports network, it's all we're talking about. But there's a lot of distractions in la, Coral Gables and Austin. And I always feel like even with the good Texas teams and SC teams, you know, they've got a lot of things to do on a Thursday night. Do you worry about that with Texas? You know, in Columbus, once the weather turns, I mean, kids can get in trouble, but you know what I mean? Austin at 72 degrees, go down to 6th Street. Is Texas different this year? Are they focused? Do they have a northern ideology? A tough, physical ideology? Pay attention and don't get loose.

[Urban Meyer]

I think so. I picked them last year. You know, Coach Sark, we did a game and he invited us to watch him practice. And that was the closest thing I've ever seen to our 2008 Florida team. You know, the big thick defense, alignment and an elongated skill. Guys and NFL draft picks all over the field, we watched them practice. Excellent coaching staff, very disciplined. So I actually picked them last year and I'm, you know, I think they're going to be right there this year. They got a, they got a reprieve, man, they got a lifeline when they got their butts kicked by Georgia. And they've been playing great ever since. You know, I know Quinn Ure's got a little injury they're dealing with now, but I think they're locked and loaded here. Here's what about Georgia. All due respect to Georgia, I've never. What they're getting ready to walk into a Mercedes Benz stadium. And I coached in a couple of three SEC championship games. Colin. I think it's bigger than the national championship. When I was there, whoever won that SEC championship was going to win the national title. That's how good the conference was. And the atmosphere. Georgia is going to be like a home field advantage. I know Texas, I've heard they gave back a lot of the tickets. This is going to be an inferno that Texas walks into. And if Texas can. The key is, and if I'm giving a pregame speech, get first downs. That's it. Don't worry about winning the game. Get first downs and calm the environment down. That's how you calm it down. Do not turn the ball over. No sacks. But all Due respect to Texas has been in some big games. I'm not sure they've been in one like this one.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah, SEC is different, by the way. You know all the recruiting. So you were at Bowling Green recruiting two and three star guys, and you go to Utah, you get a little better player. Then you go to Florida and you get Ohio State. How does Ashton Gentee, how does he end up at Boise State? That's where you are. How in the world does that kid get missed by all the Buckeyes and Wolverines and Notre Dame and uscs?

[Urban Meyer]

Well, I go back to, like, Joe Burrow was fairly unrecruited. So a lot of these cats are just underdeveloped when coming out of high school. What's even more amazing is Ashton Jente stuck with his team last year. I'm sure he could have made seven figures or more at some other school. And he is legit. His lower body is powerful. I can't wait. I can't wait to see him play. And I was one of those naysayers because I'm like, okay, he's playing in a conference, you know, that, you know, could he do that against the big boys? And he certainly did against Oregon. He almost had 200 yards rushing. So this kid is legit. I can't wait to see him tonight. We're here. I can't wait to see him.

[Anya Packer]

Okay, finally. You know, Belichick, I said earlier, belichick groveling to 18 year olds. Give me a break. I'm like, this isn't going to.

[Madison Packer]

He doesn't.

[Anya Packer]

He's not a college coach, right?

[Urban Meyer]

Oh, I got to know him so well as a Florida, and we became very good friends. And I'm like, you, I'm like, I just don't know. I mean, for Coach Belichick to be sitting in his office in an agent, and this is what's going on now, because I have many friends, obviously, in the business, and an agent shows up at your office and. Or a high school recruit and they start demanding money from you. And I, I'm just. I've known Coach Belichick a long time. I, I couldn't do it. I could. I couldn't do that. I'd have to say, get out. Get out of the office. You know, let's get better grades. Let's, you know, take care of yourself a little better and perform a little better and let's have a chat. So God bless him. He's 70. I think he's 70 years old or something. And he still wants to keep going. So God bless him, man, if he wants to do it.

[Anya Packer]

Are you ever going to coach again? You could coach. You have good energy.

[Urban Meyer]

I love what I'm doing. No, I don't. I don't see me coaching again. I got a life to live. I didn't know this life was out there. It's pretty good, Colin.

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Yeah, tell me about it. I'm on the air every day. I don't get these.

[Urban Meyer]

Look at you. Look how healthy you look. Coaches don't look like you, Colin.

[Anya Packer]

You know what this is called? It's called makeup and the hair people. That's why I look like this. You get me out of here and you put a gin and tonic in front of me. I'm a nightmare five minutes after the show ends.

[Urban Meyer]

We'll do that someday.

[Anya Packer]

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[Anya Packer]

Yeah, it's just a different ballgame. It's, it's, it's not, it's not for everybody. I mean, I think we have to be honest about that. That college coaching thing has changed. And it's, it's, you know, a lot of these guys, I, I don't know how they do it. Like, I, I, I just don't know how. If you've been coaching, I mean, Jay Wright's a great basketball coach and he doesn't have 85 gossip scholarship. He's like, I'm out. When Jay Wright left, I mean, I get Roy Williams coach K. Saban, I get that. But when Jay Wright left Villanova basketball, I'm like, yeah, that, that's just, he's over it. And so some people just. And what Urban says is kind of what Dabo says. Like, I don't want to get into this, you know, nil thing. And I said this yesterday to J. Mac. You kind of push back on this. I am a believer in the nil and transfer portal, but I think everything has to have guardrails. I think every t. I think there should be a ceiling on what you could give. There's a ceiling in the NFL. Pro football has a cap. College can't. 18 million bucks is the max. Now, most colleges can't raise that. So that's way. That's like Yankees compared to the Rays or A's. But I think if you had a cap like every sport in the world except baseball has, I think that would be more redeemable.

[Madison Packer]

Yeah. I had a guy approach me at the gym yesterday who loved your take on this. There needs to be a cap. And I'm not going to get into a back and forth with some random guy. But I just disagree with that. I don't know. Let the market decide, Colin. What's, what's, what's wrong?

[Anya Packer]

Well, why don't we do that in the NBA and NFL? Let the market decide.

[Madison Packer]

Well, the NBA, you need. You need like a balanced league. You don't want top heavy.

[Anya Packer]

Well, the problem with the NBA right now, and this has been like a 20 year problem, the middle and bottom of the NBA can't compete. And that's Riv.

[Madison Packer]

They don't have stars. All these guys, they draft in the top five that are coming out of high school.

[Anya Packer]

Tony Bennett, Virginia coach, retired at 55.

[Madison Packer]

Yeah.

[Anya Packer]

He's like, I'm done. I'm not going to do it.

[Madison Packer]

It's interesting because there's a new job popping up. You know, Adrian Wojnarowski left being an insider legend and now he's at Saint Bonaventure being like the GM of their collective.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah. I have heard scuttlebutt raise a family. They got one of the best. Eugene Country Club.

[Madison Packer]

Eugene or no.

[Anya Packer]

Oh, yeah. You can go toe to toe with Ohio State and Georgia and Texas on players. It's a wonderful place to live multiple times.

[Madison Packer]

One of my good buddies from college just moved like right outside the campus.

[Anya Packer]

Beautiful.

[Madison Packer]

And tells me it's amazing.

[Anya Packer]

Willamette River. I think there's a. I don't know the name of the river. I forget.

[Madison Packer]

I haven't been there.

[Anya Packer]

It's not Willamette.

[Madison Packer]

In the fall, it looks pretty awesome.

[Anya Packer]

There's a river that runs through the Campus track. I mean it's just young, fun, green. It's a great campus. It's just a, it's right off the freeway. It's a beautiful place.

[Madison Packer]

Can Lanning be that, be a Saban who sticks around forever? Do you see him go in NFL? I, I don't know. I mean, Kalen Deborah.

[Anya Packer]

Well, I think the NFL is more attractive to me if you get a reasonable owner, which is about eight of them.

[Madison Packer]

Reasonable owner. What about quarterback?

[Anya Packer]

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you get a reasonable hands off owner and a good quarterback, the NFL is the best place to coach. But in college football, again, if you have the budget like I, I, if I was a college coach, I would want, I wouldn't want, I would want final say on players, but I would want a gm. I'm not, I don't need the power. I would want a former NFL guy that I would say I would have veto power on a player. But I'd like you to go find the players and then, you know, if I have veto power on like a pass rusher, quarterback, you know, left tackle, there's going to be some things I want to have veto power and say I don't like him, I like him. But again, I think, I think this idea that, you know, I just think the college life as a coach is worse significantly than 10 years ago. And I think the NFL life gives you two and three week breaks multiple times a year.

[Madison Packer]

I would mention Ryan Day as a face of college football, but I don't think that sticks. Marcus Freeman probably has an NFL trajectory. Sarkeesian is another name.

[Anya Packer]

Sark. Now if you told me Sark becomes the face of college football for a decade, that would be my vote. That would be my vote. Great ad, good money. He's going to win a Natty. Let's, let's say Sark just wins one Natty. Calipari won one Natty and he kept that job forever. It's when Calipari started losing in the first round in March. But if Calipari would have gotten to a couple of elite eights, he'd still be the coach of Kentucky. He just, his team couldn't win in March and he was like, well, that's not my job. Yeah, it is.

[Madison Packer]

I forgot you had the greatest all time nickname for him, Caliphanzi. You remember that?

[Anya Packer]

Yeah.

[Madison Packer]

Did he not like that? Did he ever reach?

[Anya Packer]

I don't know. But when I used to buy into Calipari, but then when he said it's not my job at Kentucky to win in March, I'M like, okay, this is. That is like saying Sark's job. It's not to win games in Texas. It's to make these young men pros. You're fired.

[Madison Packer]

Yeah.

[Anya Packer]

Like, it was just nonsense. He knew it. It was because he was losing in March. That's not my job. Yes, it is. At Kentucky.

[Madison Packer]

By the way, did you take those.

[Anya Packer]

Young men can go anywhere and make the NBA.

[Madison Packer]

You take my college basketball plays last night. Val, Valpo and tcu. Did you get those? Valpo and tcu, Those were your bets. They both hit. Yeah.

[Anya Packer]

How. How do you know that?

[Madison Packer]

What I do, my. My friend. This is what I do. All right, next story is the Chicago Bears. Colin. They've been through a lot this year. Started 4 and 2, have not won since the new interim head coach. Thomas Brown started this year as the passing game coordinator and he's gotten promoted twice. Now that things have settled down a bit, Cole Comet says he feels a lot better.

[Urban Meyer]

Yeah, I will say that.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah. I think there is a little bit of an exhale to it. I think the exhale for me kind of happened yesterday. Just kind of finally moving on from it. When you finally get on the grass and go practice, it kind of for me always signifies moving on to the next week.

[Madison Packer]

I had somebody who follows the Bears closely. Tell me, if you listen to Kevin Warren this week at his press conference, he sounds like a power hungry dude. And my buddy's speculation is that he's going to keep Thomas Brown as the head coach. I know that's a little crazy because Thomas Brown doesn't have any experience, but sounds like. Did you see Warren at the press conference? He kind of put polls in the corner. It feels. Doesn't feel like the vibes are great there. You walk in the room and it's like, okay, who's in?

[Anya Packer]

So it's going to be Matt LaFleur, Dan Campbell, Kevin O'Connell and Thomas Brown.

[Madison Packer]

Well, that's just speculation. I don't know. I mean, I think that's a great job. But the way Warren is talking and you had a good note, didn't you, that there was somebody that. Oh, it was Harbaugh. Remember when Harbaugh made sense and you were like, warren and Harbaugh, not no shot.

[Anya Packer]

They don't get along. No. So. And Harbaugh was the perfect fit because he's great with quarterbacks, young quarterbacks. He's a culture creator and he wins immediately. Like those three things which Chicago has to start winning. They got to change the culture and they Got to make sure Caleb's on the right track. Harbaugh's. Check, check, check. Not interested. Sometimes, guys, grudges, as I often say, are chain smoke and hate. They don't hurt the person you're holding it against. They hurt you. Get out of the grudge business. And Harbaugh and Kevin Warren, I don't know what happened, but he was there for the taking.

[Madison Packer]

Wait, can you repeat? What'd you get that on, a fortune cookie?

[Anya Packer]

No. One time I was talking about grudges with somebody, but 20 years ago I said, dude, you're just chain smoking hate. It's all you're doing. It's not hurting the person you hold it against, it's hurting you.

[Madison Packer]

Yeah.

[Anya Packer]

Get out of the bitter business to the lousy business.

[Madison Packer]

To be Friday final hour. Just firing off, just legendary lines. That was. That was good. Final story is Dion to the NFL. Rumors are heating up. Colin, he's been linked to the Cowboys. Now there's a report linking him to the Raiders even though they have a head coach. Just two hours ago, our producer said she door Sanders posted an IG story driving past the Raiders stadium in Vegas and put the caption legendary. I wonder what cars your door was driving. What do you think? Lambo? Ferrari? Huh?

[Anya Packer]

How about Deion and Shedur with the Raiders? That'd be solid.

[Madison Packer]

Well, they gotta get the first pick first.

[Anya Packer]

I think they're gonna get that.

[Madison Packer]

And you think they dust Pierce?

[Anya Packer]

Legendary.

[Madison Packer]

There it is. Look at that. Look at how quick that turnaround. What a staff we got.

[Anya Packer]

That's a fun. That's a fun stadium.

[Madison Packer]

Yeah. Have you been to the end zone? My brother has a connection to the end zone.

[Anya Packer]

I went to a WWE event there. It was great.

[Madison Packer]

Why would you do that?

[Anya Packer]

I took my son to it.

[Madison Packer]

Oh, nice.

[Anya Packer]

And we had a. We had a ball. It was really fun.

[Madison Packer]

I'll take your word for it. I went to a Jets Raiders game. You can imagine who lost that one. But yeah, great experience. Good. It's a legit party in the end zone. It's like a club.

[Anya Packer]

Love it. If I were so inclined to party. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.

[Madison Packer]

And thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.

[Anya Packer]

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[Urban Meyer]

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[Anya Packer]

Very few companies who go viral are, like, totally prepared for what that means.

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[Questlove]

Good people, what's up? It's Questo, Questlove and Team supreme and I have been working hard to bring you some incredible episodes of Questlove supreme with guests you definitely don't want to miss. Now, one of the things I love about this Questlove supreme podcast is we got something for everybody, every type of music lover. We enjoy speaking to the people who were the face of some movements and some people you've seen on stage or TV or magazine covers. But we also love speaking to the folks who are making it happen behind the scenes and they paved the way for those that followed, you know, keystones to the culture. This season we've had some amazing one on one conversation like on Vape Hill, chatting up with hitmaker Sam Holland, Sugar Steve, chatting with the legend Nick Lowe, and I've had pleasures of doing one on one conversations with Willow, Sonata, Maitreya, Kathleen Hanna and the rza. These are conversations you won't hear anywhere else. So make sure you go back and you check those episodes out. All right? Listen to Questlove supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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[Madison Packer]

Super Six sponsored by DraftKings. Go to the Fox Sports app to make your picks. One of the questions is which player will have the most receptions? Colin, who you got? Malik neighbors vs. The Saints, Drake London vs. The Vikings, Justin Jefferson vs. The Falcons, or DJ Moore, who's listed as questionable by the way, at the 49ers.

[Anya Packer]

I'm going to go Justin Jefferson at home against the Falcon, like Minnesota to score some points in that game. All right. J. Mac at one point was just a young fledgling sports writer. He kicked that to the curb for gambling and doing this thing and digital stuff. And we created a segment called Tomorrow's Headlines today. Jets Dolphins. I think I know where you're leaning, boy.

[Madison Packer]

Kyle, a lot of jets news here in the last hour that we'll get to shortly. It ain't great. The headline will be just the two of us beat the Jets. Don't need to try I that not my best singing voice there ever, but this is a. This is blowout city.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah.

[Madison Packer]

Here's the news on the jets recently. So C.J. mosley, their middle linebacker tackling machine, he just went on IR Sauce Gardner and Breeze hall not practicing all week. They're listed as doubtful. There is a Reddit board report. You'll love that. Some guy who was at the hospital in New York saw Breece hall and thinks he's getting an mri, thinks the jets are shutting him down. That's where we are with the jets right now. Reddit board speculation. Bottom line, this smells like a quit by the Jets. I mean that collapse against the Seahawks was awful. Would not be surprised. What's the over under on Tyrod Taylor snaps for the jets this week. Honestly, why not? I don't see it. McDaniel, we know against teams over 500 he struggles one in 15 and then he just obliterates the bad teams. That's what the Dolphins do. They're front runners. I kind of wouldn't be surprised by like a 49, 7, 49, 10. Jets just roll over. So I'm on the Dolphins here. Colin.

[Anya Packer]

Tomorrow's headlines today this was a stay away game for me. Panthers at the Eagles on Fox.

[Madison Packer]

Why would you want to stay away from.

[Anya Packer]

Well, I like watching Bryce Young rising.

[Madison Packer]

Bryce Young ascending, if you will, trying to catch CJ Stroud. The headline will be the Bryce of Eggs. Panthers face Philly inflation. Folks, it's a big line but the numbers climbing. I see 13. Listen, Philadelphia is the best running game in the league. You want to guess who has a bottom three run defense in the league? Carolina. They made Bucky Irving look like Eric Dickerson last week. He went crazy. This feels like Eagles run away and I believe Philly will be able to save some of their guys in the fourth quarter. You know, you might want to rest them for the big matchup against the Steelers. The intrastate battle next week. The only caution here is the Eagles have faced two bad teams earlier this year at home. Big spread against Jacksonville and Cleveland didn't cover in each one kind of went through the motions. You didn't see a fully locked in bought in Eagles team. But this feels like a different team member. You did a story about since the bye week. Hertz and Sirianni kind of got on the same page. They're rolling.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah.

[Madison Packer]

And that win over the Ravens was impressive. They smacked your Bengals around. I like the Eagles a lot this week.

[Anya Packer]

Tomorrow's headlines today, the banged up Chargers at the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Madison Packer]

You know I like the Chargers. Went to that game against the Ravens and they, they, they were in good position to win. Could not pull it off. I faded them last week. Didn't work out. I'm going to try it Again, the headline will be Pachecos and balances Chiefs Separate Chargers power. This is just not good. I'm Looking at Ladd McConkey reports today still has not practiced. There is major question if he's going to go and listen. No J.K. dobbins last week, no run game. They didn't have 200 yards of offense against the Falcons. Gus Edwards, who I like, you know, my kids met him when we went to a Chargers preseason thing. Gus Edwards is running like he's got a piano on his back. He's hitting the line like, what am I doing? Like, super slow. Colin, I'm worried that the Chiefs kind of regain form here after that horrific performance against the Raiders. But I've been saying that for a while. Chiefs, six straight games, no covers. I just don't know if the Chargers can do it. There's some numbers on McConkey about how much of a difference maker he is. Colin against man coverage. He's one of the best receivers in the league this year. He's super shifty. But if he's not there, who you got? Quinton Johnston. Yeah, like Palmer. I don't like it. So I'm going. Chiefs here. Favor by four.

[Anya Packer]

Let's, let's pivot to college football. Tomorrow's headlines today, Texas, Georgia, what say you?

[Madison Packer]

Okay, so Urban Meyers did something very interesting in that interview earlier this hour about how Texas is kind of returning some of their tickets. This is going to be a major Georgia home game in Athens. The headline will be Sarknado SEC East Broom Sweeps Wicked West Foe. Sadly, I have Georgia winning this game. Yeah, I like Texas a lot. I'm rooting. I think they can still win the Natty. It's just not a great matchup. Now this will be a Georgia home game. I'm anticipating 80, 20 crowd. You go online, tickets can be had. And by the way, the Georgia fight song, glory, Glory, pretty darn good. You remember the one from elementary school, Glory, glory, hallelujah. Teacher hit me with the ruler. I know. You know.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah, I never got hit with a ruler.

[Madison Packer]

I was a good kid, but I do. It's going to be a scene there. George has been to the SEC title game four years.

[Anya Packer]

Very familiar territory.

[Madison Packer]

The argument you made about eight overtimes and a gas defense that's very credible. But Texas had an emotional game on the road in College Station. They needed to pull that one out late. This should this is probably the best game of the weekend and we could see it again. Round three in the College Football Playoff. But I'M on Georgia here.

[Anya Packer]

Tomorrow's headline today, the Ducks and the Nittany Lions. What's. What's on the agenda for you?

[Madison Packer]

Yeah, we just talked about Dan Landing. Great coach James Franklin, very good, but doesn't have the respect because he never wins.

[Anya Packer]

Not the big ones. He struggles with the big ones.

[Madison Packer]

The headline here will be Count Quackula Ducks Year one is fantastic. I'm going to go Oregon winning, but close. I bet Penn State, I think this is a three point game. Either way, Penn State keeps this close with this kid, Tyler Warren. So we talked about Brock Bowers being an amazing tight end. That kid Warren, he destroyed USC.

[Anya Packer]

17 catches against the trophy.

[Madison Packer]

He's 66260 now. I don't know what he's going to run at the combine, but I'm just telling you, this kid Warren lines up at the backfield out wide. I mean, he is such a weapon. One of the best players in college football I've seen all season. So I think he can help keep it close. But Oregon with Gabriel, man, they are.

[Anya Packer]

They're really fun to watch.

[Madison Packer]

They're good. I don't know what's their best win outside of playing Ohio State at home. Like the Wisconsin game, they didn't really dominate that well.

[Anya Packer]

First year in the Big Ten, they had a bunch of road games. They had a really rough stretch of like eight straight Big Ten games. And those were, those were hard. What I was impressed is when they played poorly. I think it was Wisconsin and they didn't play very well and they won. That's a complete. That's a very easy game to lose.

[Madison Packer]

Early in the season. They didn't play well against Boise. I remember they were laying like 20 in the season. They struggled against Idaho, so those were some struggles early. But Dan Lanning and Gabriel, one of the better combos, coach, quarterback in the country. So I like Oregon to win a close. What should be a really good game.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah, you know, there's some. How about Arizona State?

[Madison Packer]

It's weird not having Ohio State in there. They've been up top all season. No Miami in there. They've been up top all season. Alabama is just a fixture. Well, just kind of a quirky conference.

[Anya Packer]

Ohio State is. Yeah, it's. I think. I think they're going to be fine and I think people overreact. I think it's one of the strangest losses I've ever seen. And I think because it's at Ohio State and because it's against Michigan, everybody freaks out and you should freak out. It Was bad. I. As long as they don't have. I mean, if they play Tennessee, they would. Would they host them or. I think they'd host them.

[Madison Packer]

We got to see. I think they're.

[Anya Packer]

I think if their first, their first. Their first playoff game December 20th, you know, that's when it starts. If they're in Columbus, they'll win, but.

[Madison Packer]

They'Ll also have had three weeks to get healthy and put some new stuff in the playbook. That is huge because some of the teams that are playing this week and then don't get the buy. That's a lot of extra football that we haven't. We don't know how.

[Anya Packer]

These kids, Ryan Day and Chip Kelly are offensive coaches, so they're creators. You know, offensive coaches tend to be the more creative coaches. So I could see Ohio State on three weeks rest coming out and all sorts of exotics and being really, really good.

[Madison Packer]

See that Against Michigan, I was disappointed, like, well, you know, gimmicks, plays, where's the gadget stuff? Well, they got the dudes.

[Anya Packer]

Yeah, no, they got the dudes. They got NFL running backs, receiver. They got the dudes. You know, I think some of it is what Joel Klatt said this week. I think Will Howard had an early mistake and they looked at it and said, listen, Michigan can't score on us. We'll kick a bunch of field goals and win. Then all of a sudden you look up and Michigan's picking up first downs and the clock is winding down and it's tied and it's, it was, it was jaw dropping.

[Madison Packer]

It's disappointing that they would coach that way just because he had the early mistake. Now, he did get knocked out of the game for like a play, remember? Or maybe he didn't miss a play, but he definitely was nearly concussed.

[Anya Packer]

Well, the other thing. And Will Howard does a good job. He's a good college quarterback. He's solid. More than they want a title with Craig Krenzel, I mean, the game's changed, but he's more than you can win a national title with. Will Howard, I believe this year I think they're going to end up the only. Now see again, Oregon beat him. So I would rather be Ohio State in a second meeting. You get a little chip on your shoulder. The only, the only team that I would absolutely think is favored over Ohio State would be Texas by about three and a half. That I think Texas would be. And I would taste that three and a half. I would bet the Buckeyes once we.

[Madison Packer]

Get the 12 teams I would like you to rank the quarterbacks in the 12 team playoff. I. I wonder if Howard's even top six. I get. Would you. Who would you trust bigger in a big spot? Will Howard or Carson Beck?

[Anya Packer]

Well, Beck's a better quarterback.

[Madison Packer]

Okay. And we don't think much of Beck.

[Anya Packer]

Well, he's draftable. He's probably a second. He's probably a late second round.

[Madison Packer]

You're not taking. You're not taking Will Howard over the kid, Dylan Gabriel. You're not taking him over yours. Your boy at Notre Dame, Riley Leonard.

[Anya Packer]

Who?

[Madison Packer]

You Will Howard.

[Anya Packer]

I. Oh, I like Riley.

[Madison Packer]

Okay, so Ohio State has a quarterback who's.

[Anya Packer]

Ohio State has top three talent, so they don't have to be as good.

[Madison Packer]

What good is the talent if you don't have a quarterback who can get him the ball?

[Anya Packer]

He's fine.

[Madison Packer]

He's the Oregon mistake at the end. The Michigan collapse. Sorry to pile on, Will. You had a rough go.

[Anya Packer]

What do you want me to do?

[Madison Packer]

I can't sugarcoat it. Should I?

[Anya Packer]

More sugarcoating. That's our show for this Friday. This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Now here's the kicker. The PayPal debit card earns you 5% cash back in a monthly category of your Choice. Up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. So groceries, health and beauty, gas, apparel restaurants. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Instacart, Sephora. This month, it's all about that apparel. I got a crazy schedule. I shop online a lot, snag a suit here or there, fresh gear, 5% cash back adds up fast. And signing up is easy. Just Download the new PayPal app to sign up and you're ready to start earning cash back on your everyday purchases. Pay smart, earn cash back. Enjoy peace of mind with a PayPal debit card. Don't just pay. PayPal terms apply. See PayPal app cash back earned as points you can redeem for cash and other options. This card, issued by the Bancorp and a pursuant to license by MasterCard International.

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People, My people, what's up? This is Questlove Man. I cannot believe we're already wrapping up another season of Questlove Supreme. Man, We've got some amazing guests lined up to close out the season. But you know, I don't want any of you guys to miss all the incredible conversations we've had so far. I mean, we talked to Amerie, Johnny Mar? E, Jonathan Schechter, Billy Porter, and so many more. Look, if you haven't heard these episodes yet, hey, now's your chance. You gotta check them out. Listen to Questlove supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

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