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Drew Bledsoe
You know, the stuff that gets all the headlines is Jordan Hudson and Belichick's relationship. I'm actually fascinated how he does. I think the ACC is so weak that Bill's just going to win some games. But I've never prescribed the theory that all NFL greats work in college. Bill Walsh had very modest success at Stanford because Bill was an academic. And you get 17 hours a week and you're talking to kids, even if they're Stanford kids. I always thought Jon Gruden would be a great college coach. I thought Rex Ryan, big personality, big smile, a line of bs. I thought Rex Ryan would be a great college coach. I never thought like Parcells or Belichick, a little like Charlie Weiss, sort of the academic, little grumpy. That guy doesn't work in college to me because the players select you. Drew Bledsoe is now joining us live. 14 years, four time Pro Bowler, Patriots hall of fame. Joining us, former number one overall pick. Yeah, forget all the Bill personal stuff is that college football is a lot. It's like the movie poster. What's the movie? Pete Carroll, big energy Bill Walsh, lower energy, academic. How do you think he'll do as a coach?
Unknown Guest
It's going to be interesting to watch, Colin, you know, and I think if nothing else, it's going to get eyeballs, right? So I mean, if that's what you're looking for, you know, people are to be watching, you know, North Carolina football. But you know, you're right, you do have to, you have to simplify things. You only get a certain amount of time and then, you know, now coaching in college is so much different too because not only do you recruit guys coming in, you have to keep recruiting, recruiting them the entire time you're there. And you know, Bill has always been so focused, you know, just one dimensional on the football. It's going to be really interesting, you know, to see, you know, how he does dealing with all the other stuff that is involved in coaching college now.
Drew Bledsoe
Yeah, the, you know, nil makes it maybe a little easier because you can just go buy guys. But you know, he didn't necessarily always work well with young players. You know, the college football thing is interesting. I can remember your college career very well. I look, we talked about this this morning. Usc, Notre Dame and USC is like time out. We got to go to Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State. We don't want to go to South Bend in November. Where are. My take is tradition entered the portal. Get over it. Like, where are you on like a usc, Notre Dame? Would you give that up? Because now the Big Ten page is 75, $80 million a year, and you don't need the revenue.
Unknown Guest
Yeah, I, I'm with you. I love the tradition. I love these, these old rivalries. And maybe, you know, maybe we're just old, you know, maybe we just don't get it. But, but, man, I, I, it, it kind of breaks my heart a little bit. You know, my dad played for the Washington Huskies, so he was PAC 8, PAC 10, then I was, you know, in the PAC 10. My son played for the Cougs in the PAC 12. And so now you got like three generations of our family history that's kind of thrown out the door. So it's, it's, it, it bugs me. I don't like the, the, the lack of conditions that have been broken down with the realignment.
Drew Bledsoe
So in your day, you played eight, nine high school games. It was slower growth. These days, I'm much tougher on quarterbacks. The seven on seven camps, you have your personal coaches. I need by Thanksgiving of year two, I'm going to raise my hand. I'm going to be in a room and I know if you can play or you can't play. I'm giving you about 25 games. You were in a different world where you got three full years, and then you looked at Eli and said, okay, it works. I look at Caleb Williams, I looked at how good Burrow was quickly. Jaden Daniels was quickly, Andrew Luck was quickly, Lamar Jackson was. When will you watch Caleb with now kind of a stacked roster, when will you have strong opinions on Caleb Williams for the Bears next year?
Unknown Guest
Yeah, you know, I think this year is going to be pretty telling column because, you know, you come in, one of the, one of the curses of being, you know, the top draft pick is you're generally going to a team that's not very good unless there's some kind of crazy trade or something, you know, and so now they're putting a roster around him. The guy's, you know, remarkably talented. There's no questioning that. But this year it's going to be interesting to watch his progression, you know, and it's also, you know, one thing for young quarterbacks is who they're working with on a daily basis, you know, and what kind of coaching are they getting? You know, you see certain coaches, you know, Sean Payton comes to mind Andy Reid is a guy that's, that's, that's always been that guy. You know, quarterbacks have success when they're with these guys, you know, and so, you know, it'll be interesting to watch his, his continued development, you know, this year, you know, he probably gets this year to progress, and then next year, you know, that third year, it's kind of, well, are you going to, are you going to re up on this guy or is he going to move on someplace else?
Drew Bledsoe
I found people last year had really strong opinions on his footwork. Hero ball. If, if you just watched him, what was your general impression? I'm not saying things were built for him to succeed, but was there a general uneasiness sometimes when you watch them?
Unknown Guest
Yeah, you know, it's, it's. Again, it's. Sometimes that remarkable talent can be a little bit of a curse. You know, I had a big arm, and that got me into some trouble from time to time because, you know, you tend to think you can make every throw. You can fit the ball into the tightest spot. And sometimes, you know, as a quarterback, you just have to take the easy play. You got to take the check down, you got to, you got to take five yards. You don't have to make the wild play every single time. Especially, you know, when that, you know, when you're risking, you know, losing a game because you're trying to force something to happen. You know, you watch, you know, like, you know, Pat Mahomes is probably the best guy playing right now. Best guys played for quite a while. You watch him especially like this last year. In the last couple of years, there was not a lot of wow stuff in the first three quarters or first three and a half quarters, right? And then when he, and then when he had to, boom, you know, he can make that wild play. But, but, you know, he really seems to understand that quarterback thing where you first do no harm. It's kind of like you're a doctor, right? You know, the Hippocratic oath, first you do no harm. And that's, that's one thing that a guy like Caleb has to understand is like, look, you know, the wild plays once in a while. Yeah, you have to. But. But the rest of the game, you really need to be able to manage the game and keep it close and keep your team in the game and not lose the game before you have a chance to win it.
Drew Bledsoe
You know, you're tied to Robert Kraft in New England. You're in the Patriots hall of Fame. There's not a lot of players, former players that go on to be great coaches. Okay. Belichick wasn't. Andy Reid wasn't. McVeigh was an athlete, but wasn't. Kyle Shanahan wasn't. Vrabel was a good player, but he's a hell of a coach. And Dan Campbell, again, was solid, but it really works. What is your insight on what is it about Vrabel? Because I think he's really good. And most guys who played at a high level, they're too busy being players to worry about, to worry about anything else. What is his secret sauce?
Unknown Guest
Yeah, you know, I only played with Mike for one year, and we were close enough friends. It felt like we played together for like five or six years. But Mike had then, and I think still to this day has just tireless energy. You know, he would. He would go to practice and run all of the defensive snaps, then he would play scout team and then for, you know, just burn off some energy. He would go run down on scout team kickoff. Like just tireless energy. And so you start there, you know, that's something that you see with Dan Campbell, too. Just like his energy is infectious. And then Braves is incredibly smart. You know, he's a brilliant, brilliant guy. But I also think there is Colin. There's something about, you know, being a player that gives you some credibility with your team. Yeah, I know it hasn't always. Hasn't always translated, but, you know, I remember watching Danny Campbell in training camp telling his guys, like, guys, I don't want to put you in pads. And if. But if I knew there was another way to get you ready to play, we wouldn't do this. I promise. And they know he means it because he was there. He was one of them. He was. You know, he went through. He went through 2A days. He knows how much it sucks. And, you know, so I do think that if you have the, you know, the energy, the intelligence, if you combine that with the credibility that goes with having actually been there, done that, and knowing how it feels, I think that's really meaningful to players.
Drew Bledsoe
Go back to all your quarterback coaches and your coordinators. Who was the best former player that you had as a coach in your career?
Unknown Guest
You know what? I had, I had eight different offensive coordinators and probably nine different quarterback coaches. Wow. The one that. The one that I. That. I really wish I only got to work with him for one year. I really wish I could have worked with Sean Payton more. You know, he was. He was an artist when it came to calling plays. You know, he really understood the game. He, he, you know, in his, the great coordinators and quarterback coaches. And it's really important. It was still important to me and I was in my, you know, 13th year or whatever. But they make things more simple for you. You know, they, they don't give you, they don't overload you with too much information and they're able to take, you know, really complex things and make them, make them simple for you. And that's, you know, what? I hope that is going to happen for Drake May in New England, you know, with the, the other Josh McDaniels. Our winemaker is Josh McDaniels, but it same guy. So we all, so we, so we all, we, we always call him the other Josh McDaniels, but the other Josh McDaniels working with Drake May, you know, I really believe that he'll have the ability to, to, you know, help Drake simplify things, you know, going into this next season and then to kind of bring him along slowly as he, as he continues to progress and can process more. But I'm really excited to watch that happen.
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Drew Bledsoe
And finally, I think Shador will be fine. I think he was underdrafted, but there aren't a lot of traits. He doesn't spin it like you. He's not as tall as you. He doesn't move like Lamar. You know, he doesn't have a lot. You go wow. But I do think he didn't have a good old line or a run game and he, he played really well against much better teams and I think there's value in playing well. Where do you, when you watch him and you watch them a little bit at Colorado, if you'd never heard any other analysts talk about Shador Sanders, when you watched him play as a former NFL pick, what did you see that you liked or didn't? Did you think he was a first round player?
Unknown Guest
Yeah, I did. I did. Colin, I thought he, I thought he was first round talent. I don't know. I don't know the guy. I still, it's sort of a mystery to me why he fell as far as he did. But when I watch him, he' he's accurate. He throws with anticipation. You know, there's a, there's a quarterback thing that I always look for. If I'm watching quarterbacks, you know, the ones that are successful, you can almost see the future, right? You have to be able to anticipate, you have to throw guys open. If you wait to see a guy open, especially as you rise to the NFL level, then you're behind and you're just not going to be successful. And I've watched that happen with some quarterbacks, that really big arm talent, but they had to wait to see somebody open before they throw the ball. Shadur seems to be able to anticipate. Well, I liked watching him playing college again. He didn't have a ton, you know, of, you know, help up front. He was getting hit. It's another thing that I look for. You know, I'm always kind of suspicious when you see some of these, not always, but some of these quarterbacks that come out of the great programs, Ohio State's and Alabama's of the world because you know, they're out there. Their guys are better than the other guys. They're not getting hit. They're throwing to open guys. You know, most guys should be able to do that. But when you watch a guy that's getting hit repeatedly and still popping up and making the plays for you, you know, that's something that, that is a quality that's hard to learn if you can learn it. And he got his ass knocked off in college and still continued to battle and play and play and play well. So, you know, so I believe he's going to have some success, you know, at some point, whether it's this year, next year, when, Whenever that happens.
Drew Bledsoe
Yeah. I will tell you, when I watch Jared Goff at Cal never got hurt, and he got blistered for three or four years. And I was like, I don't know if he's any good, but that skinny kid never gets hurt. Some guys just bounce back. Eli Manning never got hurt. You know, it's just the way it works.
Unknown Guest
Yeah. No, the best ability is availability. Right? That's the, the old saying. And then you, you know, and it's not just the durability piece, but it's the mental toughness, being knowing that you're. Knowing that you're going to get hit the next play, but still standing in there and delivering the ball and doing that over and over again, you know, that's a, That's a hard thing to learn. You know, it really is a hard thing to learn. I don't know. You can learn it. And Shooter seems to have that ability to, to take, take his. Take his hits and then. And keep.
Drew Bledsoe
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Unknown Guest
It's a great vintage, Colin. Great vintage. Mother Nature was very, very kind to us. The critics have been really kind to us as well, which is good. You know, critics. I've always viewed wine critics kind of like sports writers. I want to put a lot of them in a bag and beat them with a stick. But, but, but, but, but, but every once in a while, they're nice to us. You know, they gave us, you know, we've got a couple. We've gotten a couple hundred point scores recently. So, you know, now I. Now I love the critics because they're giving us some nice ratings on the wines.
Drew Bledsoe
Look it up. Double Back Winery. Drew Brudso. It's great to see you as always, Drew.
Unknown Guest
Yeah, man, it's been too long. Colin, Good to see you again, buddy.
Drew Bledsoe
All right. Yeah, Shador got roasted and Jared Goff in college got smoked and almost got back up J. Mac with the news.
Unknown Guest
No, no, no.
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This is the herd line news.
Oh, that was a great live I've let's sports writers. Anyways, Colin, this first topic is dicey. Okay, let's be careful here. But Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson, obviously people are obsessed with the story. According to the athletic Colin, there is a report that Jordan Hudson has told at least one person they are engaged to be married. Okay, this comes off of the report, of course, that Belichick's family was concerned about the relationship. So the athletic. Huge piece on this relationship, which is weird. I can't remember the last piece I've read about a coach dating someone. But I digress. Go for it.
Drew Bledsoe
Love is in the air. I'm not judgmental. It's not the first old rich guy to marry somebody young. There's energy. Like, I, I'm not real judgmental on it. It's. I, I think they probably get along well, I think. Oh, really? You know, listen, you know, marriages don't all come from a place of meeting in high school and sweethearts forever. And a lot of people get to different stages in their life. And Belichick is older. Kids are out of the house. He's on a college campus. He met somebody that makes him feel great. She, by the way, meets somebody and she's like, it's nice to be successful. It's nice to not have to worry about, you know, certain things. I don't. I mean, it's, It's. There's a lot of negotiating going on in relationships everywhere. I'm not real judgmental on. People are happy.
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Who am I?
Obviously we don't judge. We just offer our opinions. And I think you and I are both pretty happy for the. Is this a May December romance? It's been, what, one year and they're. And they're allegedly engaged. Yeah. Let's just move on to the next story, shall we, Colin? To the NBA, where the warriors got eliminated, obviously, in the second round. Steph Curry didn't play Golden State. You know, they were hoping Jimmy Butler could kind of carry him and make it interesting. He took just 20 shots in the final two games. He was a robust minus 47. Dwyane Wade did not like what he saw and has called out Jimmy Butler.
I didn't like his. The way he just approached the game. Like, I know Jimmy is a pass first guy I know. He's about getting his teammates the Ball and want to see them shine. But it's a point where you getting 60. This ain't working. You got to go. He want to look at the basket. And I've seen this before. I've seen it in the Heat jersey. And so, you know, in a sense, like when Pat come out, Pat say, we want to get your distinction. It's not always because of injury. Sometimes I need to see what you're going to do in every moment, not just in one moment.
Drew Bledsoe
Yeah, I thought he was disappointing in the last game of the season. I thought he didn't. He took, like, 11 shots.
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He. He went all out. Colin in game three to try to get them that win. It was close. They lost. Down the stretch, he did. I think he had, like, 37. So he had a lot of points, did everything. They just came up short. At that point, you kind of knew that's a wrap. Wasn't great in the final two games, but, like, what are we expecting? They weren't winning that series if you went for 40 in each game.
Drew Bledsoe
Well, I mean, ask yourself this. If I said, I mean, how good of a player is he? So let's just. Just, just right now, you and me, off the top of our head, name the top 10 players in the league. So let's just say Jo. SGA. It's Giannis. Luca. Yeah, Luca. Let's do Ant. Let's do Jason Tatum.
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LeBron.
Drew Bledsoe
Let. Let's do a staff. LeBron.
Colin Cowherd
8.
Drew Bledsoe
I think Jalen Brunson's got to be somewhere.
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Jalen Brunson's in there.
Drew Bledsoe
Jalen Brunson. Okay, so I'm at. Not. Okay. Halliburton will put it 10. We could. Okay, let me think this. Let me look over this real quick. Jokic, SGA. Giannis Luca. Ant Tatum, Steph Lebron. Brunson. Hallibur. I would say 11. Anthony Davis.
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Anthony Davis. Certainly in there.
Drew Bledsoe
Okay, hold on. Let's.
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Did you say KD?
Drew Bledsoe
I would. I was just gonna say AD at 11. KD at 12.
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13.
Drew Bledsoe
I would put Booker. Booker. Okay.
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Cade Cunningham.
Drew Bledsoe
Or too early. No, I'll do cade Cunningham at 14. Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell at 15 again, I probably.
Colin Cowherd
I may put him high.
Drew Bledsoe
Okay, so. Okay, so there I. I think the order you can argue over. Yeah. So for our Jokic SGA. Giannis Luka, Ant Tatum. Steph. LeBron. Brunson. Halliburton, ADKD. Booker. Cade Mitchell. Okay, so he's not a top 15 NBA player. So when you're not a top 15 NBA player, you can have bad playoff games. So. And that's my take. And would Jimmy Butler be 16th, 17th, 18th? He's certainly in that. Jalen Brown's got to be somewhere.
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Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, there's guys, but bottom line is, hey, Anthony Davis without Kyrie could not get Dallas out of the play.
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In.
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All right. This idea that Jimmy Butler was going to take down the Timberwolves with pods and Kuminga and this poo poo platter of mediocre players, that's just not happening. I think Wade's out of pocket here. If you want me to go off. I think Wade's auditioning for his next gig where he's going to be an analyst on NBA games. Like this. This felt like almost judgy and mean because Butler said no thank you to the Miami Heat where Dwyane Wade is like the mayor of the team. I didn't like what I heard from Wade. Jimmy Butler has never once half assed anything. That dude is a warrior. He carried the Heat to the finals twice. I didn't like what I heard from Wade. Who I wear Dwight Wade sneakers when I hoop. I'm a big fan. I didn't like this.
Drew Bledsoe
I have Kawhi because he never plays at 16. Could be higher. And Jaylen Brown 17. I have Jimmy Butler at 18. And by the way, there's an argument. Ja Morant, Zion Markkanen, There's a lot of guys in that space. Yeah.
Unknown Announcer
By the way, how did, how did Jalen Brown do in game. Whatever. What it was.
Drew Bledsoe
So again, where was he? When you're not a top 14, 15 player, you have bad playoff games. So that's my take with Butler is he took 11 shots. I mean, the bottom line, he was carrying the offense when Steph got hurt. I mean, it was he. Kamingo were doing all the in pods a little bit. We're doing all the scoring.
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Buddy heel doesn't show up. Shocker. The warriors aren't competitive. Final story, Colin. Let's go to baseball. This is like a spicy one. Juan Soto, the big money guy for the New York Mets, he got some hot water last night after hitting what he thought was a home run over the Green Monster. But look at him. If you're watching at home, he doesn't hustle out of the box. He's kind of lollygagging, admiring his shot. It ended up being one of the longest singles maybe, I'll say baseball history. But the reason he was lollygagging was because that's. That's kind of his style. He's too cool for school guy. Here's what his manager said after the game.
Drew Bledsoe
He thought he had it, you know, with a win and all that.
Colin Cowherd
And in this ball, Parker, you know.
Unknown Guest
Anyway, anywhere but in particular, in this.
Drew Bledsoe
One without that wall right there, you got to get out of the box.
Unknown Guest
So. Yeah, we'll discuss that. I hit it pretty hard. Really short Green monster, but tried to get the second, but it wasn't enough.
Drew Bledsoe
Last couple of nights you've had a.
Unknown Guest
Couple of plays where you were slow.
Drew Bledsoe
Getting out of the box.
Unknown Guest
Is that something you have to be more aware of?
Unknown Announcer
No, I think Bank Holster will be very hard.
Unknown Guest
If you see it today, you could attempt.
Drew Bledsoe
Yeah, that's kind of. Robinson Cano used to have this rep a little bit. I mean, it's when you pay a player big money, people want. People want hustle. That's just, you know, it is what it is.
Unknown Announcer
I don't know, Kyle. I mean, listen, he got a $765 million deal. So now sports writers are demanding that he sprint out of the box on every ball that he's hit. Like, come on. Obviously this isn't a great move. Look, but it's 162 game season.
Drew Bledsoe
Well, you only get four at bats. It's not asking a ton a hustle.
Unknown Announcer
Yeah, no, that's fair.
Drew Bledsoe
I don't know.
Unknown Announcer
Yeah, again, I don't like the Mets, so that's why I kind of relish this whole 765. The guy can't. Can't sprint out of the box. I don't know.
Drew Bledsoe
J. Mac with the news.
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Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie news.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
Drew Bledsoe
Drew Bledsoe stopped by today. Rick Bucher, Game one tonight, Western Conference. It feels like we should get an Eastern Conference finals game with Indiana and New York. We get the Western Conference finals tonight. OKC is a bizarre seven point favorite. Give me the T. Wolves to keep it close. It's the Herd.
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Welcome back. You know we were talking earlier today about like the parody in the NBA and it just. It just doesn't exist. My entire life. Governments are trying to create even. Sports leagues are trying to create even. And it doesn't. It doesn't exist in Europe. It doesn't exist exist on the PGA Tour, the tennis tour. It doesn't appear, it doesn't work Anywhere. I mean, look, as a kid growing up, you used to get 125 scholarships. Then they cut it to 85. They didn't want you to hog all the scholarships. And now, oh, remember, Nil came out and everybody said, oh, everybody can compete now. It's the same teams. Ohio State just won a Natty the year before it was Michigan. Georgia's still good. So is Texas, you know, Notre Dame. It's the same brands over and over. And the NBA says it wants more parity. And it'll be interesting because it does look like going forward, roster construction and point guard play, elevating B and C guys is the way to do it. I mean, since 2019, Raptors, Lakers, Bucks, Warriors, Nuggets, Celtics, you've usually had one great player. You know, Raptors had Kawhi, Lakers had LeBron, Giannis staff, Jokic, kind of collaborative with the Celtics. You know, OKC's favored. They have like the league's leading score in SGA. Rick Bucher, though, talked about like the Parent, the parody.
Rick Bucher
Going forward, we've gotten the most we can out of. Out of the American audience where. And we're never going to beat the NFL. Where can we expand in a way, where is our sweet spot? And it really is globally. And so parity works on that. We got to build target, we got to build our big box building and draw an audience that way, because that's our advantage over the other professional leagues in the United States. That's what Adam Silver is doing. So if I can sell a million OKC jerseys this year and I can sell a million Timberwolves jerseys next year, and I can get that global audience to be buying into all the different teams that I have, I have a better chance of expanding my audience than simply having everybody wanting to watch LeBron.
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But I was saying, like, in the NFL, there's at least four new playoff teams every year. And to me, it's getting harder and harder to find the new teams because it's really become offensive head coach, quarterback lead. And so like this year in the AFC and last year, I just went with the best quarterbacks and I my playoff teams. This year in the afc, I struggled to find two new playoff teams. One of them had Burrow, and I figured, okay, Burrow will make it. And then I think Drake May is Justin Herbert on the east coast, and I think Vrabel is a really good coach. But by and large, if you go look at my picks, it's Mahomes, Josh Allen, you know, burrow, Lamar Jackson, C.J. stroud and Harbaugh with Justin Herbert. I'm stretching to find new teams. If you go to the nfc, sit. Now, NFC is not as good as a quarterback conference, but I'm immediately going Jalen hurts on the Eagles stack roster. Jared Goff. I think Baker's the best quarterback in his division. Matt Stafford is the best quarterback in his division. And I think now Wild Cards Jaden Daniels the best quarterback in his division. I'm struggling to find two new teams. I do the Seahawks because they actually have an advantage in the playoffs. They have more prep time than any NFL team on their schedule. They only one game all year have less prep time for a game. And I also think their coach and their roster is really good. But I'm stretching to put the Bears in over the Packers. I could flip it based on, you know, what we hear or injuries, but is parody's gone. The NBA is now going to own it. I'm. I struggled this year knowing I got to come up with four new playoff teams. That's the minimum over the last 30 years. And I wonder if we're going into a space as the NFL has become much more quarterback, offensive head coach, centric, if we're going to see less change in the NFL. And also there are more games. Now we have 17 games, not 16, and we're moving to 18 games. Well, the longer a schedule is, it would benefit the best quarterbacks and the best GMs and rosters and coaches. You know, I've always said I could run Microsoft for two weeks. I couldn't run it for two months or two years. The longer I was there, the worse the company would be. You know, the shorter your schedule, the easier it is for upsets and dark horses. But as the NFL expands its schedule to eventually 18 games, that's only going to benefit better quarterbacks and better coaches. So I think you'll have even fewer surprises. So I just, I. I just think it's harder now. Again, I like Seattle over San Francisco, but if San Francisco, because their schedule is the easiest in a decade in the NFL, if San Francisco made the playoffs, wouldn't that be a team that largely we predict, is a playoff team? I mean, Seattle's kind of random, right? Like. Like Washington, I'm going just with quarterback. So I guess my point is I. This, this fight for parity. The NBA finally has it. I don't know if it works. We'll see. It didn't work in the 70s and everybody was winning a different year. The audience, the audience says they want it. People Say they want a lot of things. I don't think OKC in Minnesota will rate. That's my take.
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I think the Knicks and the Pacers will rate. What say you?
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So, Colin, I seem to recall in the whole idea of being in the media or sports, sports, you want team, you want people to love you or hate you. You don't want to be in the middle, which is kind of like indifferent. Hey, man, that guy has a take. But I don't really care. People loved or hated super teams. LeBron, super teams, the Heatles. Not one, not two. People hated that. Colin, people hated the super team Warriors. They were polarizing. They generated massive numbers. I. I just don't know if you go and pull people on the streets of Chicago. Hey man, how do you feel about the conference finals? Okay, sure. Okc Ant Edwards, like, nobody really loves or hates even the Knicks. Usually people dislike New York teams. Jalen Brunson's lovable. He's like Steph Curry, the king of the mid range. So I just don't know that there's a polarizing team or player in the conference finals. And I think that hurts casuals from tuning in versus checking out the latest season of ANDOR on stream. So again, I don't know if you.
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Disagree or not, but David Stern inherited a league where you had parity. He was very comfortable with New York with Ewing, Chicago with Jordan, the Lakers with Magic, Boston with Bird. He was very comfortable. Big markets dominating the league. He was comfortable with it. Nike was comfortable with it. David Falk was the top agent. He had the biggest stars in the biggest markets. So that's the world he. He was comfortable with. David Stern did not deal with a lot of international stars. A little bit more as he got older. I think Adam Silver's heart's in the right place. I think he is a bit. It's not naive. He's not naive. He's more of an idealist. Let's share the wealth. I think it sounds good, but if you look at what Hollywood is trying to do, what is. I just watched the Netflix series last night. It was great. With My Wife, six episodes. And there's definitely a dark side to it and a villain. In fact, there's a couple of different villains and they switch throughout. Everybody that's writing movies, there's a good guy and a bad guy for every Mission Impossible and there's like no bad guy. I mean, that's what I said about Jason Tatum, face of the league. He's too likable. Nobody hates Jayson Tatum, so it's an idealistic way to do operate a business. We'll see if it works. I'll watch. I'm not sure if casuals will. And with that, we are gone for today.
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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Hour 3: What Are the Browns Doing?
Release Date: May 20, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Guest: Drew Bledsoe, 14-year NFL veteran, four-time Pro Bowler, and Patriots Hall of Famer
Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson's Relationship
The episode opens with a discussion about the intriguing relationship between New England Patriots' head coach Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson. Drew Bledsoe expresses fascination over the dynamics of their relationship, highlighting concerns about Belichick dating someone much younger.
Drew Bledsoe [04:07]: "It's going to get eyeballs, right? So if that's what you're looking for, people are going to be watching."
This segment explores how personal relationships can impact professional environments, especially within the high-stakes realm of the NFL.
Transition to College Coaching
The conversation shifts to Belichick's potential move into college coaching, a domain where Drew Bledsoe feels Belichick might face challenges due to differing dynamics compared to the NFL.
Drew Bledsoe [04:47]: "Coaching in college is so much different… Bill has always been so focused, just one-dimensional on the football."
Bledsoe questions whether Belichick's disciplined and academically inclined approach would translate well in the college setting, where recruitment and multifaceted responsibilities play a crucial role.
Evaluating Caleb Williams for the Bears
Drew Bledsoe delves into the prospects of Caleb Williams, analyzing his strengths and areas for improvement as the Bears consider him for their quarterback position.
Drew Bledsoe [06:54]: "I think he really seems to understand that quarterback thing where you first do no harm."
The discussion emphasizes the importance of Williams' ability to manage the game effectively, balancing aggressive plays with strategic decision-making to enhance his team's success.
Impact of Coaching on Quarterback Performance
The role of coaching, particularly quarterbacks' coaches and offensive coordinators, is highlighted as pivotal in shaping a quarterback's career trajectory.
Drew Bledsoe [11:31]: "Sean Payton was an artist when it came to calling plays… I'm really excited to watch that happen."
Bledsoe stresses the significance of experienced coaching in simplifying complex game strategies, thereby fostering quarterback development and performance consistency.
Dan Vrabel’s Coaching Philosophy
The conversation shifts to Dan Vrabel, a standout coach admired for his energy, intelligence, and credibility derived from his playing days.
Drew Bledsoe [10:09]: "Mike had just tireless energy… that's something that you see with Dan Campbell, too."
Vrabel's ability to connect with players, combined with his strategic acumen, is credited as the "secret sauce" behind his coaching success, making him a respected figure in the NFL coaching landscape.
Warriors' Elimination and Jimmy Butler's Role
The hosts analyze the Golden State Warriors' exit from the playoffs, focusing on Jimmy Butler's performance as he struggled to compensate for Stephen Curry's absence.
Drew Bledsoe [24:49]: "Steph… he was carrying the offense when Steph got hurt."
Bledsoe critiques Butler's shot distribution and decision-making, suggesting that Butler's efforts were insufficient to propel the Warriors deeper into the playoffs without Curry's leadership.
Ranking Top NBA Players
An extensive dialogue ensues where Colin and Drew collaboratively rank the top NBA players, debating the positions of stars like Nikola Jokić, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Jalen Brunson.
Drew Bledsoe [25:18]: "Jokic, SGA, Giannis, Luka, Ant, Tatum…"
This segment underscores the competitive landscape of the NBA, highlighting the challenges players face in maintaining top-tier performances during critical playoff moments.
Adam Silver's Parity Initiative
The discussion broadens to Adam Silver's efforts to promote parity within the NBA, aiming to balance team strengths and expand the league's global audience.
Drew Bledsoe [36:13]: "He is a bit… it's not naive. He's more of an idealist."
Bledsoe expresses skepticism about whether these parity measures will resonate with casual fans, drawing parallels with Hollywood's storytelling structures where clear heroes and villains drive audience engagement.
Soto's Overestimated Home Run
Switching gears to Major League Baseball, Colin and Drew discuss Juan Soto's recent home run attempt that failed to clear the Green Monster, leading to significant scrutiny.
Drew Bledsoe [28:03]: "He thought he had it…"
Soto's lack of hustle and the resulting single sparked conversations about player accountability, especially following his substantial $765 million contract with the Mets.
Analyzing Team Performances and Coach Impact
The episode concludes with predictions and insights into various teams' prospects for the upcoming season. Drew Bledsoe shares his struggles in identifying new playoff teams, attributing it to the league's increasing reliance on elite quarterbacks and head coaches.
Drew Bledsoe [40:22]: "David Stern inherited a league where you had parity…"
Bledsoe reflects on the NFL's evolving dynamics, questioning whether the league's move towards longer schedules and enhanced quarterback-centric strategies will limit upsets and maintain the dominance of established teams and players.
Conclusion
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, the hosts and guest Drew Bledsoe provide a comprehensive analysis of current sports narratives, ranging from NFL coaching dynamics and quarterback development to NBA playoff performances and MLB player accountability. The discussions offer listeners valuable insights into the complexities of professional sports management and athlete performance, framed by firsthand experiences and expert opinions.