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Joe and Jada - 42 Dugg on NEW PROJECT ‘Part 3,’ Eminem & Detroit rap, Bad Bunny’s bank account

Date: January 23, 2026
Host: Fat Joe & Jadakiss ("Joe and Jada"), with guest 42 Dugg

Episode Overview

This episode of the Joe and Jada show, as part of "The Herd," features Detroit rapper 42 Dugg discussing his new project "Part 3," his dreams for the future, Detroit’s gritty rap legacy, and the insane business of music catalogs. The conversation delves into Detroit’s culture, rap rivalries, street life, and music business insights—with sidebars about legends like Eminem, Bad Bunny, R. Kelly, and DJ Khaled. The tone is candid, raw, and full of both street wisdom and industry insight.

Main Topics & Discussion Points

1. 42 Dugg’s Mindset and Ambitions

• Catalog Strategy & Wealth Goals
  • 42 Dugg on his future: “Hopefully selling the catalog for a billion. You hear me? No doubt, man. I’m trying to get there.” (00:03, 44:19)
• Talks about elevating others, then stepping back once he’s cashed out and set up people behind him (44:18).

2. New Music: “Part 3” and Staying Independent

• Project drops January 23rd—described as full of “bangers,” but some tracks were too crazy to release (01:28).
• He's moving independently, shaping Detroit’s distinct sound, and keeping creative control (01:59).
• Playful back-and-forth on getting Jada on the album—and importance of collaboration (01:40).

3. Reputation, Respect, and Street Stories

• Fat Joe praises 42 Dugg as “the most respectful, the most solid one” among young hip hop artists:

  “He happens to be the most respectful, the most solid one out of all of them.” (02:45)

• 42 Dugg’s infamous gambling game in New York legends—“wiping out the whole New York” in dice games (03:22–04:10).
• Dugg on avoiding trouble and negative energy since coming out of jail; insists he rarely needs security unless “bad energy” comes his way (04:37–04:57).

4. Authenticity, Security, and the Realities of Fame

• Fat Joe’s no-nonsense attitude about security:

  “I tell my security...I’m not bullshitting, man, come at me, I’m gonna let these guys shoot you in the face.” (05:05)

• Advice to young rappers: get legitimate security, not just “your man’s in them,” to avoid career-killing incidents (06:35).

5. Navigating Rumors, Lawsuits & The Music Business

• Joe shares a personal lawsuit story—wrongly accused of assault, police clout, and how being an artist makes you a target for dirt and lawsuits (07:38–09:48).

  “When you are artists and [they] throw dirt on your name, you gotta clean it up.” (10:12)

• The real danger of losing endorsements and money when falsely accused as a public figure (10:12).

6. Tour Life and Money Talks

• 42 Dugg plans to tour in support of his new project, possibly joining another artist as a surprise (10:49–11:02).
• “All money in”—the hustle mentality, building wealth, and inspiring younger artists (11:02–11:08).

7. Evolution from Rap to Podcasts—Pivoting for the Bag

• The rise of podcasts, and how even Joe and Jada are pivoting and leveraging their fame—“Netflix. We on Netflix.” (11:18)

  “You see Fat Joe, Jada Kid start a podcast? You should have knew some shit was coming this way.” (11:18)

• Conversation about how streaming, podcasts, and new business models are changing the game (11:34–12:00).

8. Rap Competition & Creation

• Candid insights on in-studio competition, “Orcs wars,” and always trying to outdo each other—even on tracks with friends or family (12:18–13:30).
• Memorable exchange on ghostwriting, paid features, and the art of making the best verse regardless of circumstance (13:41–14:25).

9. Making & Losing Money—The Latin Music Game

• Fat Joe shares about massive earnings from a Ricky Martin collab, showing the kind of money in Latin music (14:25–15:40).

• 42 Dugg notes: “Spanish artists...got way more money than...,” opening up a discussion on the global streaming dominance of Latin artists (15:40–16:08).

• Joe on streaming numbers: “These Spanish people, they stream that to death...40, 50 Latino countries...they stream to death.” (16:08–17:26)

  “Nobody could fuck with Bad Bunny. I mean, like, nobody black, white, Spanish.” (17:30)
  “They be having silly ass bank rolls on there like annual. And I be watching. They pay crazy on that.” (15:58)

• Bad Bunny and Latin trap as both art and real street talk (17:30–19:07)

10. Detroit, Eminem, and Local Legends

• Dugg talks about Detroit’s recovery, downtown vs. the hood, and the realness that never disappears (22:19–22:39).
• Major respect for Eminem, who “won’t move” from Detroit—“That boy, he’s still over there in that Detroit. That’s fucking crazy.” (25:14)

  “They love him and them to death. I feel like Eminem, he live in a deal.” (25:26)

• Discussion of other Detroit icons: Peasy, Blade Icewood, Ray, and especially Dej Loaf—whose flow was “jacked” by the whole industry (29:58–31:28).

11. Hip Hop History: Styles, Influence & Unsung Heroes

• Rapid-fire debates: who invented the melodic rap style—Bone Thugs, Twista, etc. (32:20–32:35)
• Shoutouts to underappreciated producers and songwriters like Scott Storch and Johnny J (48:56–50:29).
• Scott Storch’s journey—made $85 million in one year after “Lean Back,” but didn’t get mainstream credit till Fat Joe said his name (50:26).

12. Troubled Legends: R. Kelly’s Legacy and Business

• Deep dive into R. Kelly’s incarceration, business mistakes, and catalog woes (34:02–37:26).

  “If R. Kelly get out tomorrow, do you think he will sell out? Concert, Hell, yeah.” (33:29) “He don’t own any of his stuff either. Very little, apparently. It’s all tied up with the labels...and because of court shit.” (36:01)

• Fat Joe’s personal conflict over supporting a friend accused of heinous crimes:

  “I watched every day of his trial. I prayed every day for R. Kelly that he beat it because he was my friend...But I just can’t do it.” (37:40–38:21)

13. Fashion, Hustle & Image in Hip Hop

• The meaning behind “fresh fits” and having premeditated Christmas Day outfits (42:19–42:28).
• Nike Techs, black Air Force Ones, and hip hop’s signature street gear as signals in the culture (43:41–44:13).
• Fat Joe and 42 Dugg riff on clothes, staying “dip fresh,” and how personal style ties into self-esteem and success (42:55–43:13).

14. Wealth, Giving Back, and the Trap of Carrying Others

• Fat Joe on putting people on, heartbreak when it doesn’t work, and how sometimes even helping can "become heartbreaking" (44:42–45:22).
• He’s changed many lives—“Fat Joe has changed about 10 people’s lives and made ’em millionaires.” (45:35)
• 42 Dugg quizzes Fat Joe on whether he profits from launching DJ Khaled—“Do you get money from discovering Khaled?” Fat Joe explains why no, and tells stories of Khaled’s wild success and generosity (46:22–47:40).
• Team dynamics: “If your clique is rich, your clique is rugged. No one will fall, because we'll be each other's crutches.” (52:42)

15. Music Business Pitfalls: Taxes and Legal Nightmares

• Fat Joe details being scammed by his accountant, going to jail for unpaid taxes, and the brutal reality of paying off the IRS—twice (53:11–55:32).

  “Do me a favor. Take that serious...your whole life, they’ll haunt you. Can’t get a passport to leave the country. Can’t get a license. They’ll fuck you, legend.” (54:05–55:32)

16. Detroit Unity & Growth Through Collaboration

• 42 Dugg breaks down his collab with Skilla for “Thick One”—“We from different sides...but if it’s gonna do better for Detroit, I’m all for it.” (57:29)
• Premiere of “Thick One” featuring Skilla—song breakdown, backstory, and energetic reaction from hosts (58:57–63:12).

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Success:
  “I really want to put, like, the next person behind me in this position, and then I just want to fall back. You know what I’m saying? Just give me—give me a bankroll.” – 42 Dugg (44:18)
• On Legacy:
  “Fat Joe has changed about 10 people’s lives and made ‘em millionaires.” – Fat Joe (45:35)
• On Streaming & Spanish Artists:
  “These Spanish people, they stream that to death...they made streaming big. So them dudes are like, it's scary to know what they’re making.” – Fat Joe (16:08)
• On Eminem’s Dedication:
  “He could be wherever he want to be. And he out there by the big tire in the highway. That takes dedication.” – Fat Joe (25:54)
• On Coaching New Artists:
  “If anybody really want to work in the crew, they got a job. But we can't carry dudes that don't want to work or want to fuck shit up.” – Fat Joe (52:05)
• On Collaboration:
  “We form Voltron.” – Jada (13:00)
• On Fashion:
  “Clothes make you feel good. You look good. You feel good, man.” – Jada (43:01–43:06)
• On Street Life:
  “I feel like they trying to—downtown cool, the areas supposed to be cool, man. The hood is gonna be the hood regardless.” – 42 Dugg (22:30)

Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• Opening Ambition: Where Dugg wants to be in the future
  (00:00–00:03, 44:14)
• "Part 3" Project and Detroit Sound
  (01:21–01:59)
• Legend status and New York dice game tales
  (03:15–04:18)
• Security in rap, fame, and violence
  (05:05–06:48)
• Fat Joe’s lawsuit story, dangers of public fame
  (07:38–10:12)
• Latin artist bank accounts and streaming money
  (15:40–17:26)
• Bad Bunny’s dominance
  (17:30–18:14)
• Discussion of Eminem’s Detroit roots
  (24:41–25:54)
• Detroit Icons rundown, Dej Loaf’s influence
  (29:58–31:28)
• R. Kelly’s catalog, crimes, and career death
  (34:16–37:26)
• Fat Joe’s advice on handling money and taxes
  (53:11–55:32)
• Premiere and discussion of “Thick One”
  (57:27–63:12)

Closing Vibes

The episode wraps with the debut of 42 Dugg’s "Thick One," the crew vibing in the studio, and reaffirming their shared bond: Detroit, the Bronx, and the hustle for longevity in hip hop. The conversations throughout are laced with humor, hard-earned advice, and realness about fame, friends, and business—serving both reminders and fuel for the next generation of rap hustlers.