Joe and Jada - 42 Dugg on NEW PROJECT 'Part 3,' Eminem & Detroit rap, Bad Bunny's bank account

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - 42 Dugg on NEW PROJECT ‘Part 3,’ Eminem & Detroit rap, Bad Bunny’s bank account

Date: January 23, 2026
Host: Fat Joe & Jadakiss ("Joe and Jada"), with guest 42 Dugg

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Joe and Jada show, as part of "The Herd," features Detroit rapper 42 Dugg discussing his new project "Part 3," his dreams for the future, Detroit’s gritty rap legacy, and the insane business of music catalogs. The conversation delves into Detroit’s culture, rap rivalries, street life, and music business insights—with sidebars about legends like Eminem, Bad Bunny, R. Kelly, and DJ Khaled. The tone is candid, raw, and full of both street wisdom and industry insight.

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Main Topics & Discussion Points

1. 42 Dugg’s Mindset and Ambitions

• Catalog Strategy & Wealth Goals
  • 42 Dugg on his future: “Hopefully selling the catalog for a billion. You hear me? No doubt, man. I’m trying to get there.” (00:03, 44:19)
• Talks about elevating others, then stepping back once he’s cashed out and set up people behind him (44:18).

2. New Music: “Part 3” and Staying Independent

• Project drops January 23rd—described as full of “bangers,” but some tracks were too crazy to release (01:28).
• He's moving independently, shaping Detroit’s distinct sound, and keeping creative control (01:59).
• Playful back-and-forth on getting Jada on the album—and importance of collaboration (01:40).

3. Reputation, Respect, and Street Stories

• Fat Joe praises 42 Dugg as “the most respectful, the most solid one” among young hip hop artists:

  “He happens to be the most respectful, the most solid one out of all of them.” (02:45)

• 42 Dugg’s infamous gambling game in New York legends—“wiping out the whole New York” in dice games (03:22–04:10).
• Dugg on avoiding trouble and negative energy since coming out of jail; insists he rarely needs security unless “bad energy” comes his way (04:37–04:57).

4. Authenticity, Security, and the Realities of Fame

• Fat Joe’s no-nonsense attitude about security:

  “I tell my security...I’m not bullshitting, man, come at me, I’m gonna let these guys shoot you in the face.” (05:05)

• Advice to young rappers: get legitimate security, not just “your man’s in them,” to avoid career-killing incidents (06:35).

5. Navigating Rumors, Lawsuits & The Music Business

• Joe shares a personal lawsuit story—wrongly accused of assault, police clout, and how being an artist makes you a target for dirt and lawsuits (07:38–09:48).

  “When you are artists and [they] throw dirt on your name, you gotta clean it up.” (10:12)

• The real danger of losing endorsements and money when falsely accused as a public figure (10:12).

6. Tour Life and Money Talks

• 42 Dugg plans to tour in support of his new project, possibly joining another artist as a surprise (10:49–11:02).
• “All money in”—the hustle mentality, building wealth, and inspiring younger artists (11:02–11:08).

7. Evolution from Rap to Podcasts—Pivoting for the Bag

• The rise of podcasts, and how even Joe and Jada are pivoting and leveraging their fame—“Netflix. We on Netflix.” (11:18)

  “You see Fat Joe, Jada Kid start a podcast? You should have knew some shit was coming this way.” (11:18)

• Conversation about how streaming, podcasts, and new business models are changing the game (11:34–12:00).

8. Rap Competition & Creation

• Candid insights on in-studio competition, “Orcs wars,” and always trying to outdo each other—even on tracks with friends or family (12:18–13:30).
• Memorable exchange on ghostwriting, paid features, and the art of making the best verse regardless of circumstance (13:41–14:25).

9. Making & Losing Money—The Latin Music Game

• Fat Joe shares about massive earnings from a Ricky Martin collab, showing the kind of money in Latin music (14:25–15:40).

• 42 Dugg notes: “Spanish artists...got way more money than...,” opening up a discussion on the global streaming dominance of Latin artists (15:40–16:08).

• Joe on streaming numbers: “These Spanish people, they stream that to death...40, 50 Latino countries...they stream to death.” (16:08–17:26)

  “Nobody could fuck with Bad Bunny. I mean, like, nobody black, white, Spanish.” (17:30)
  “They be having silly ass bank rolls on there like annual. And I be watching. They pay crazy on that.” (15:58)

• Bad Bunny and Latin trap as both art and real street talk (17:30–19:07)

10. Detroit, Eminem, and Local Legends

• Dugg talks about Detroit’s recovery, downtown vs. the hood, and the realness that never disappears (22:19–22:39).
• Major respect for Eminem, who “won’t move” from Detroit—“That boy, he’s still over there in that Detroit. That’s fucking crazy.” (25:14)

  “They love him and them to death. I feel like Eminem, he live in a deal.” (25:26)

• Discussion of other Detroit icons: Peasy, Blade Icewood, Ray, and especially Dej Loaf—whose flow was “jacked” by the whole industry (29:58–31:28).

11. Hip Hop History: Styles, Influence & Unsung Heroes

• Rapid-fire debates: who invented the melodic rap style—Bone Thugs, Twista, etc. (32:20–32:35)
• Shoutouts to underappreciated producers and songwriters like Scott Storch and Johnny J (48:56–50:29).
• Scott Storch’s journey—made $85 million in one year after “Lean Back,” but didn’t get mainstream credit till Fat Joe said his name (50:26).

12. Troubled Legends: R. Kelly’s Legacy and Business

• Deep dive into R. Kelly’s incarceration, business mistakes, and catalog woes (34:02–37:26).

  “If R. Kelly get out tomorrow, do you think he will sell out? Concert, Hell, yeah.” (33:29) “He don’t own any of his stuff either. Very little, apparently. It’s all tied up with the labels...and because of court shit.” (36:01)

• Fat Joe’s personal conflict over supporting a friend accused of heinous crimes:

  “I watched every day of his trial. I prayed every day for R. Kelly that he beat it because he was my friend...But I just can’t do it.” (37:40–38:21)

13. Fashion, Hustle & Image in Hip Hop

• The meaning behind “fresh fits” and having premeditated Christmas Day outfits (42:19–42:28).
• Nike Techs, black Air Force Ones, and hip hop’s signature street gear as signals in the culture (43:41–44:13).
• Fat Joe and 42 Dugg riff on clothes, staying “dip fresh,” and how personal style ties into self-esteem and success (42:55–43:13).

14. Wealth, Giving Back, and the Trap of Carrying Others

• Fat Joe on putting people on, heartbreak when it doesn’t work, and how sometimes even helping can "become heartbreaking" (44:42–45:22).
• He’s changed many lives—“Fat Joe has changed about 10 people’s lives and made ’em millionaires.” (45:35)
• 42 Dugg quizzes Fat Joe on whether he profits from launching DJ Khaled—“Do you get money from discovering Khaled?” Fat Joe explains why no, and tells stories of Khaled’s wild success and generosity (46:22–47:40).
• Team dynamics: “If your clique is rich, your clique is rugged. No one will fall, because we'll be each other's crutches.” (52:42)

15. Music Business Pitfalls: Taxes and Legal Nightmares

• Fat Joe details being scammed by his accountant, going to jail for unpaid taxes, and the brutal reality of paying off the IRS—twice (53:11–55:32).

  “Do me a favor. Take that serious...your whole life, they’ll haunt you. Can’t get a passport to leave the country. Can’t get a license. They’ll fuck you, legend.” (54:05–55:32)

16. Detroit Unity & Growth Through Collaboration

• 42 Dugg breaks down his collab with Skilla for “Thick One”—“We from different sides...but if it’s gonna do better for Detroit, I’m all for it.” (57:29)
• Premiere of “Thick One” featuring Skilla—song breakdown, backstory, and energetic reaction from hosts (58:57–63:12).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Success:
  “I really want to put, like, the next person behind me in this position, and then I just want to fall back. You know what I’m saying? Just give me—give me a bankroll.” – 42 Dugg (44:18)
• On Legacy:
  “Fat Joe has changed about 10 people’s lives and made ‘em millionaires.” – Fat Joe (45:35)
• On Streaming & Spanish Artists:
  “These Spanish people, they stream that to death...they made streaming big. So them dudes are like, it's scary to know what they’re making.” – Fat Joe (16:08)
• On Eminem’s Dedication:
  “He could be wherever he want to be. And he out there by the big tire in the highway. That takes dedication.” – Fat Joe (25:54)
• On Coaching New Artists:
  “If anybody really want to work in the crew, they got a job. But we can't carry dudes that don't want to work or want to fuck shit up.” – Fat Joe (52:05)
• On Collaboration:
  “We form Voltron.” – Jada (13:00)
• On Fashion:
  “Clothes make you feel good. You look good. You feel good, man.” – Jada (43:01–43:06)
• On Street Life:
  “I feel like they trying to—downtown cool, the areas supposed to be cool, man. The hood is gonna be the hood regardless.” – 42 Dugg (22:30)

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Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• Opening Ambition: Where Dugg wants to be in the future
  (00:00–00:03, 44:14)
• "Part 3" Project and Detroit Sound
  (01:21–01:59)
• Legend status and New York dice game tales
  (03:15–04:18)
• Security in rap, fame, and violence
  (05:05–06:48)
• Fat Joe’s lawsuit story, dangers of public fame
  (07:38–10:12)
• Latin artist bank accounts and streaming money
  (15:40–17:26)
• Bad Bunny’s dominance
  (17:30–18:14)
• Discussion of Eminem’s Detroit roots
  (24:41–25:54)
• Detroit Icons rundown, Dej Loaf’s influence
  (29:58–31:28)
• R. Kelly’s catalog, crimes, and career death
  (34:16–37:26)
• Fat Joe’s advice on handling money and taxes
  (53:11–55:32)
• Premiere and discussion of “Thick One”
  (57:27–63:12)

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Closing Vibes

The episode wraps with the debut of 42 Dugg’s "Thick One," the crew vibing in the studio, and reaffirming their shared bond: Detroit, the Bronx, and the hustle for longevity in hip hop. The conversations throughout are laced with humor, hard-earned advice, and realness about fame, friends, and business—serving both reminders and fuel for the next generation of rap hustlers.

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Transcript

[Fat Joe]

Where you see yourself in the future, 42, man.

[42 Dugg]

Hopefully selling the catalog for a billion. You hear me? No doubt, man. I'm trying to get there.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, what up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack.

[Jada]

You know it is your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada show, man. Every show legendary, every show iconic.

[42 Dugg]

That's right.

[Jada]

Every show we throw that on.

[Fat Joe]

That's right.

[Jada]

You know what it is? You know what I mean? When you think of today's guest, you think of unique. I mean, you think of a big heart. Think of a family, man, good father.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jada]

Somebody that stand 10 toes down, all situations. Think of east side of Detroit. What up, though?

[42 Dugg]

What up, dog?

[Jada]

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother.

[Fat Joe]

Folk do that.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

What up?

[Jada]

What's up, baby? Welcome to the couch. Welcome to the house. Welcome to the family. What's going on with you, man?

[42 Dugg]

Taking it easy, man. Getting ready to drop this tape, man.

[Jada]

You know, January 23rd.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jada]

It's part three. What can we expect, man? You know you dropped them missiles, man.

[42 Dugg]

Bangers on there. I got some real street hood. I had to take some off, you know. Should be getting crazy.

[Jada]

You hit me to get on the joint, then you ain't hit me back, man.

[42 Dugg]

I gotta see. I gotta put you on the album, though.

[Jada]

Yeah, all right, all right.

[42 Dugg]

I gotta put you on the album right now. It's just, you know, chilling. I gotta get one of them bad for you.

[Jada]

No doubt. You know how we do.

[42 Dugg]

Really, you know.

[Jada]

Hey, man.

[42 Dugg]

Independent.

[Fat Joe]

You want to fly? And saucer, nigga, you come this way.

[Jada]

I never fly.

[Fat Joe]

Saucer. Number one on the charts. I be trying to tell cuz, you too young, right? But you, I gotta say, at all, young hip hop, he happens to be the most respectful, the most solid one out of all of them. Right. In my opinion. So that's. So that's why I fuck with you. And I invited you on the show because I said, yo, even though he a young dude, he got something to say. He a real dude. I love him. So we're going to put you on there. But I was just explaining to the young guy that works here. I was like, yo, you know, I was the hottest dude on earth. Like, I really put out number because they young. They wasn't here for that kiss. Don't say so. I'm like, you know, I was putting out number one. Number one. Number one, number one, number one, number one. Number one. Number one. Number one on the Billboard.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Against Britney Spears and shit like that.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

The big boy Shit, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, you want to fly and sauce it, man, let me know.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? Cause levels to the shit. But 42, let me tell you something. You are a legend on the streets.

[42 Dugg]

I appreciate you.

[Fat Joe]

And the whole New York, they talk about your gambling game.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You, yo.

[Jada]

Yo, you being in them gambling spots, airing shit they know everywhere.

[Fat Joe]

And my son, I don't gamble.

[Jada]

That fortune was a tobago, he was this and that.

[Fat Joe]

He dried up the whole New York. I don't gamble, but, you know, my head to the street.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

They say, yo, your little man, 42, wiping out the whole New Year. He wiped them out. Like, I'm talking about Washington High. Everywhere, they was telling me, they was like, yo. I never forget, they was like, yo, your man, your little man. I said, yo. But he in there. They be like, yo, he killing these dicks in the dice game. Like, destroying them, taking every dollar.

[42 Dugg]

We used to live down here, like, two months, swear to God. We used to catch the J to the dice game.

[Jada]

Straight to the dice game.

[42 Dugg]

They used to be like, dung gamble. Be like, all right, we on our way. We pull up 4,500,000 used to go down.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not lying. That's what the street's been saying. And you know what's crazy is it's crazy. You from Detroit and you float through the city.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Like you from the city.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah. No, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

No limitations, no well connected.

[Jada]

He's solid, and he's well connected. And that's all you gotta be. You know what I mean?

[42 Dugg]

I mean, you know, you don't really put out no bad energy. You don't really get no bad energy. That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? Like, for a minute, like, since I've been out of jail, I really ain't been having no problems. You know what I'm saying? So even with the security, you know, you really don't need them. I'm like, no.

[Fat Joe]

I tell my security, shout out to.

[Jada]

Carlos, I haven't been seeing no country for Old Men. You told them, chill.

[Fat Joe]

Kill the whole block. I tell them all the time. I'm not bullshitting, man, come at me, I'm gonna let these guys shoot you in the face. I have no problem with it. Yeah, no, do me a favor. Shoot him in the face. I don't give a. Yeah, y', all, I think they know, too. So I told them, yo, y' all got the easiest job. They said, what you mean? I said, nobody really with me. I tell them nicely, get loud with me in any way. Anything, this. I said, you see these guys?

[Jada]

Shoot them in the face.

[Fat Joe]

They're gonna shoot you in your face. I told the box of that. Now I'm with my wife. I'm with my daughter. You know them boxes. I met the Edgar Belonga fight. The boxer come up to me, yo, what's up with your manez? I say, all right. You know, he start talking crazy. I said, yo, shoot you in your face.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, straight love.

[Fat Joe]

He had the hot. He had. He was like, did he buy it coming? The man arguing with me with the.

[Jada]

Like.

[Fat Joe]

He. He ready to give me a. Like, I. I felt the. My daughter here, my wife here. I said, oh, wait a minute. I shoot you in your face. Who you think you talk that means that? Huh? Cause not every day somebody tell you that. Yeah, look at me. What? Huh? Like you. Oh, no. You heard me. You ain't punching Fat Joe. You ain't beating Fat Joe up on no level. Man, that little ch. You got that little camera dude trying to catch you swing on me. That'd be the worst.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out to security for the show. I tell. Let me tell you something. I tell all the young rappers. I tell everybody. You might as well have a legitimate security. I'm not talking about your man's in them. Because you can't shoot up the place.

[42 Dugg]

You need that behind us.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, your man keep that to yourself. Your man shoot up the place. Now you on the news. 42, dog.

[Jada]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I got arrested one time. I'm with my wife and her friends in A section. These dudes beat the. The Pope out of a dude, right? They beat the. Out of this dude, right? But I'm in this section with seven women and me having a time of my life dancing this shit, right? Come on, everybody. Would you do that? He didn't turn around. They over there dancing on him. Legend, right? Next thing I know, about a month later, somebody come up to me and like, yo, like, remember that kid that got beat up? What kid? Yo, he got beat up. I was like, yeah. I was on the other side. He was like, nah, that's not what he says. He says, you beat him up.

[42 Dugg]

Damn.

[Fat Joe]

50K in the bag to get this. I said, you tell that guy. Excuse my language, ladies. Suck my dick. I ain't giving that nigga shit. Next day, six in the morning, detectives knock on my door in Jersey. Mr. Cartagena. I go down to the precinct. They put me in the lineup. Five skinny black dudes and me yeah, yeah, that's him. Five skinny black dudes, dark skinned black dudes, and me. And I'm really Fat Joe at this time. Three Fat Joes. I'm about 4, 500, right? The guy slides his shit open and you hear him, oh, my God, it's him. And to think I was a fan. And they closed this shit. I said, this motherfucker. These guys here on the lineup, they said, sorry, Joe. I said, look at this shit. You think they wasn't picking Fat Joe out this motherfucker? Are you fucking. What's Love is number one right at the time. What's love? This is before Lean back, all that. They locked me up. This is when I learned that the police want to get famous too. They want to get clout. These guys came and picked me up in sweatsuits in my house. When we walked out the precinct where the news and all that was, these niggas had they hair done, tuxedos and shit showing. I was like, yo, these niggas want the clout. I was about to go to jail. So my lawyer at the time was telling me, yo, they want to give you a little one to three. You know, I lost.

[42 Dugg]

What you like. I didn't even touch this.

[Fat Joe]

No, I also know who danced on him. So I'm just like, you know, so I'm minding my business. And then we hired a private investigator. Shout out to Dawn Florio, attorney at law, that we hired a private. And we didn't know this before now. Now it's cameras everywhere. At that time, B.B. king had the cameras. So when they went there, the owner was like, I was waiting for y' all to come here, like, we got the film. Fat Joe ain't had shit to do with this. Get the DA. The DA says, Can I beat you, Mr. Carter? They dropping the case. I didn't do nothing. I look in there, they got a bunch of Puerto Rican dudes beating this kid up. And she was like, you can see why we thought it's you. I said, lady, there's like 7 million Puerto Ricans in New York City. What the fuck? Because some Puerto Rican dudes beating the dude up as me. Oh, this, this, that. That's how we beat the fucking case. But I mean, these people out here, they'll get you locked up. They'll send you up.

[42 Dugg]

How he gets, pick you out the lineup and ain't no repercussions.

[Fat Joe]

That's the problem with lawsuits. That's the problem with people pressing charges. This is that they could accuse you of all wild and they don't get in trouble.

[42 Dugg]

What if you'd have lost some money like yesterday?

[Fat Joe]

Everybody loses money. Look, when you are artists, you promoting products, you promoting all type of shit. You a spokesman. I just seen Jason Derulo say some like this. When they put you on the hot block, you lose all your endorsements. All that for somebody's, you know, trying to get a little 50,000 or whatever the case may be. So, you know, that's the. That's the sad part about the whole game. When you are artists and throw dirt on your name, you gotta clean it up. It's up. It's up. 42 dog.

[Jada]

Yeah. What you gonna do? You're gonna go on tour with this project when you drop it?

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, I was talking to a few people. I was probably gonna go my own stuff, but I was talking to my man. She finna go to. I don't want to spoil it. So I around go with him in February.

[Jada]

No doubt.

[42 Dugg]

We need all money.

[Jada]

All money.

[42 Dugg]

All money in.

[Fat Joe]

You can get all money in.

[42 Dugg]

Hell yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know, these legs, man my shit up.

[42 Dugg]

You your leg up.

[Fat Joe]

Cause I've been getting the monies to my whole life.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You seen Fat Joe, Jada Kid start a podcast? You should have knew some shit was coming this way. Netflix. Shout out to Netflix. We on Netflix. Yeah, this a new.

[Jada]

You know, what can I say?

[Fat Joe]

You see me sniffing around, you know.

[42 Dugg]

The pa, the papers, everybody who really doing it, they know something.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, you got. You can't stop different.

[42 Dugg]

You see them podcast, like, yeah, they sh. Doing good.

[Jada]

Eat it up.

[42 Dugg]

Y' all feel like this what we had. We ain't rapping no more. We just.

[Jada]

No, you gotta go to the studio right after this. I go to this studio every day.

[42 Dugg]

You got your own studio?

[Jada]

Yeah. I don't fucking play around with this.

[Fat Joe]

Shit at this point.

[Jada]

It's my life.

[Fat Joe]

We rap because we love it, even though we always loved it. But at this point, like, me personally, you know, I do my catalog, I get money off my hits. But the new raps, I do that for him to hear and everybody you to hear and everybody hear.

[42 Dugg]

Y' all be having, like, competitions and shit. Me and my man, we always, like, go back and forth on, like, who the best rapper. And I be like, you can't fuck with me. And that how he feel, though? So we just like, he be like in the studio, he be like, do you wanna. You wanna pull something up, right? You know what I'm saying? But that's. I feel like we get our best.

[Jada]

Music off yeah, Orcs wars. Huh?

[42 Dugg]

Who the best out of locks? Like y' all ain't had that going on.

[Jada]

We all feel like we do.

[Fat Joe]

Have y' all ever had that? Like, you ever had, like, a discussion of who's the nicest in the locks? Nah, it's an unspoken.

[Jada]

You know, we.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, I know what it is.

[Jada]

We form Voltron.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I don't know what it is. He chop five. But Styles B is dead nice. And Sheik Luch burned them on every collaboration. I don't know who the best.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jada]

Now listen to this right here.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you, I'm a hip hop historian. I know what the I'm talking about. I'm a fan of the music.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Jada]

For one, the people. The people. It's like giving yourself a nickname. The people determine the people.

[42 Dugg]

The people determine who the one of.

[Jada]

You you want to be the best on every song you on. I don't care if my mother's on there. I'm trying to. I wouldn't have a better verse than Mama.

[Fat Joe]

And I done got whacked, everybody. You ever got a whack bag. Like, you ever got a bag to get on a wax on, and you knew it was trash, but you still spit your hardest.

[42 Dugg]

Hell, yeah.

[Jada]

Yeah, I got horrible.

[Fat Joe]

I done been on where they got the bag. I'm, like, hard as hell to write to this, but I'm trying to wrap my ass off on it. Like, I don't give a fuck. My first.

[42 Dugg]

I got paid to do four bars before.

[Fat Joe]

Four bars?

[42 Dugg]

Yeah. Like 35,000.

[Fat Joe]

Well, nobody for four bars.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Jada]

I would have went in there.

[Fat Joe]

Nobody.

[Jada]

Hibbet hibbit hop to the hibbit hop to the hop.

[42 Dugg]

That's all I knew. I'm like, boy, ain't no man like this money, boy. Four bar. I couldn't believe it.

[Fat Joe]

The most I ever got paid is from Ricky Martin. Yeah. Because initially I ain't want to do it.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And so he was living la vida loca. And we the street. We coming like you. Like me and Pun at the time. We get in the middle, like, we killing people to death on the songs, Right. We both Puerto Rican. He wanted us bad. So the number kept going up. And we kept saying, nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. Nah, fuck that. He had a number where Pun was like, yo, wait a minute, Joe.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, 750 probably.

[Fat Joe]

So.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

No, like that, right? It was big money. It even, you know, we can't say his name, but somebody used to be down with us called a free Ferrari. From this, we went to Ricky Barnes house. He live in Miami. I've been passing this house forever. I'm like, yo, you don't go to supermarket. You don't go to Clay. Like, nah, don't leave my house. But his crazy on the water. He got a Ferrari there. He never drive. Somebody used to be down. He was like, I don't drive that. You know what? Keep it. That boy Ricky Martin got bread, bro. Shout out to Ricky Martin.

[42 Dugg]

I. I'll be watching Spanish artist. It'd be seeming like they got way more money than the. Like.

[Jada]

He got a different bag.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, what's that, like five private planes, like G5.

[Jada]

Five of them.

[Fat Joe]

Five.

[42 Dugg]

They be having silly ass bank rolls on there like annual. And I be watching. They pay crazy on that.

[Fat Joe]

It's more Spanish people in this world made streaming. So let me tell you what happens, right? What do you want me to do? You asking me? I'm the Spanish guy on here, right?

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You got a problem with me speaking on that? It was a life one, man. Get the out of you. Yo, listen, I'm gonna tell you. The streaming game, you too young Doug. But the way it used to work.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Is you put out an album and gotta wait in a snowstorm at a store to buy a CD or tape. Now they either download your shit or the more they stream it, it counts as a sale. These Spanish people, they stream that death. Yeah. So if they work at a beauty salon, they work out of them. When they get a record that they like Ricky Martin. You got 40, 50 Latino countries. Panama, Chile, this shit, we never even seen that. Argentina, this, Spain, this, this. All them shits they streaming to death. Now when you streaming, you ain't even have to buy 10 streams album sell 10 streams album smoke. So them dudes are like, it's scary to know what they're making.

[42 Dugg]

So who bigger, J Balvin or Bad Bunny?

[Fat Joe]

He can't with bad, but nobody could with. Nobody could with Bad Bunny. I mean, like, nobody black, white, Spanish.

[42 Dugg]

When I was in jail and somebody telling me they was breaking it down, they say bad Bunny rap all gangsta shit.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. I wouldn't say gangsta shit, but I would say, yeah, he ain't no rated pg. He talking more about the girls. But he rap gangsta shit. He rap all that shit. He's dead nice if you didn't know. Like, he talking that shit and that Spanish shit. You listen to him. But they got some niggas, man. Watch them boys. The chimney in them, the Obleta and Chimi, they in jail now for like, for crazy years, right? They mean what they say.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[42 Dugg]

Who the y' all up on? The one dude with the. I want to say he got green hair.

[Fat Joe]

They all got green hair.

[42 Dugg]

I think he be wearing a mask. Straight posted him or something like, he locked up. He took that out.

[Fat Joe]

They talking lock shit on steroids. These guys are locked on his page.

[42 Dugg]

They treat his ass like he.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, Jesus. No, listen. They talking. That gangster on another. They in jail forever right now. Him and his partner. They meant that. And disappear. Your face. They talking all this dumb is going crazy on them shits. I've never seen nobody rap like them in Spanish. I'mma keep it a buck with you.

[42 Dugg]

I'm like, these motherfuckers. I'm like, who is he? But he got out of jail. There's like 4,000 people out there. I'm like, oh, this motherfucker.

[Fat Joe]

Well, they know how with the cartel. Well, let me tell you something. Unfortunately for hip hop, reggae tones, Spanish trap, I could tell you the answer if Tupac Shakur came back alive. Right now, Tupac Shakur was in Cuba, and the man came back and said, I'm alive. First day a nigga dissed him. First day. Yeah, they'll get on Instagram, they'll make a diss recorded first day.

[Jada]

I beg the difference.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. First day somebody.

[Jada]

Who the fuck he was over there, man.

[Fat Joe]

We in the business of clout and all this shit. And niggas want to come up. You think everybody going to be like, well, we will. Tupac should call. Yo, this is that. There's somebody looking to score. There's a guy named Dempo. Who's my man? Dempo was one of the original reggaeton gangster. Got caught allegedly 2000 kilos. This guy had a thousand years in jail, am I correct? Never told did the 10, 15 years. They had a picture of Jesus Christ on the wall and a picture of fucking Temple. In every house in Puerto Rico, they had Jesus Christ, Temple. Every rapper we just talked about, Bad Bunny. This one, this one, they all had tributes. Oh, Temple come home free. Temple Tempo came home. He beat it on an appeal. Biggest miracle before he stepped on Puerto Rico. Sword. Fuck Temple. Your mother, you bitch ass nigga. I was there when he landed. This is my man. To go to him. I couldn't believe that this record was like, that's what it is. We living in a hate nation. But, yeah, they getting big money. You getting big money. You sitting up here with Big ass diamonds and shit dip fresh.

[42 Dugg]

And I ain't cleaning up money, man. Learn something, man.

[Fat Joe]

Now you gotta click up with one of them dudes, the main dudes. Like, I knew I was a real solid dude, you know what I'm saying? From what I. In my experience, I did a joint with him.

[42 Dugg]

What's the other one name?

[Fat Joe]

I got it.

[42 Dugg]

Alfonso.

[Fat Joe]

Alpha. He Dominican. He a good dude.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah. I be seeing him. He tripping out.

[Fat Joe]

It's gonna be hard for you to rap with him because he do the.

[42 Dugg]

That boat, his moving like you can't.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna have to give him the four bars on rewind. Yeah, give him the four bars. That. Yeah, he a fun time. He a good dude. You know, he live in Miami, so I bump into him all the time. He's a beautiful guy. Dominican. Some of the best. My godfather's Dominican. Some of the best people on earth, you know what I'm saying? They have a fun time. They're great people. Dominican, Dominican, Dominican, Dominican, Dominican. You know. You know what time it is with the Dominican.

[42 Dugg]

You catch fire in Spanish, you dare set for life 75 million.

[Jada]

Catch that Spanish.

[Fat Joe]

There's some black billionaires in this, trust me. You just got to know how to leverage your position and be ready. When Detroit turned around and they said they about to do the housing, 1000 cribs invest.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

How is it in Detroit out there? How is it in Detroit? Is it getting better? Like, when I grew up, Detroit was like, it looked like a war zone or some shit.

[42 Dugg]

I feel like they trying to downtown cool the areas that supposed to be cool, man. The hood is going to be the hood regardless, you know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but the hood could elevate too, you know, like, you go in the Bronx, the Bronx looked like a war zone. Like every building was burnt down. This now it looked nice. It's still the hood. They bust. They busting a gun.

[42 Dugg]

I feel like you got some blocks where there's just no houses on that beach. One house, then you got some blocks, you know, she's standing strong.

[Fat Joe]

I got a funny story about Detroit. They hired me to the Pistons, got me to do halftime, right? So we getting at the car service, right? Black dude picks me up, so I'm in the car. I tell a nigga, yo, I'm starving. I'm like, yo, see a McDonald's, pull over. He passed a McDonald's. Yo, you see a McDonald's, pull over. He passed the second McDonald's. I said, yo, my man how many times I gotta say? He turned around, he said, you wanna go to fucking murder? They killed three niggas there yesterday. Yeah, I'm trying to take you to the nice one. That was his real response, like, yo, they just killed three guys there yesterday. Fuck wrong with you? I'm taking you to the suburbs where you're safe. That Detroit shit different. And the what up, though? Let me ask you a question. I'm gonna sound stupid as shit, but.

[Jada]

Get your flag ready. Now.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't gonna say it. Now I ain't gonna say it. The what up though, right? I always thought Young Jeezy made that up.

[42 Dugg]

Right, right.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. I always thought they got a serious love for young Jeezy.

[42 Dugg]

Jeezy. They think he's from there in Detroit. Yeah, right.

[Fat Joe]

That was the bmf.

[42 Dugg]

Jeezy.

[Fat Joe]

They feel like he came up from Detroit, correct?

[42 Dugg]

Nah, for sure. He like a Detroit rapper. Half Detroit. Think that's the best rapper ever. I think it. I think it.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I'm a huge Young Jeezy fan.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah. Nah, for sure. Like, you see, we all grew up off Jeezy, you know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

How Eminem move out there? You ever seen him in Human?

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, I seen him. I seen him a few times.

[Fat Joe]

You seen him passing, though?

[42 Dugg]

Like.

[Fat Joe]

Passing like what?

[42 Dugg]

Like Eminem over there. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

In the streets?

[42 Dugg]

No, hell no. Like, we'd be somewhere. We'd be at. For a field or some football game. Eminem over there.

[Fat Joe]

Or like in the football. You be. They show them on the screen, you hear Eminem over there. You ain't seeing Eminem?

[42 Dugg]

Nah, hell no.

[Fat Joe]

I mean, this guy is so dedicated to Detroit.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

He won't move.

[42 Dugg]

Nah, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

I moved out the Bronx long time ago. I heard birds chirping, little white boys playing hockey in the street. I'm good. That boy, he's still over there in that Detroit. That's fucking crazy.

[42 Dugg]

They love him and them to death. I feel like Eminem, he live in a deal.

[Jada]

He live in some part of Michigan.

[42 Dugg]

Some part of Michigan?

[Fat Joe]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You can't take away.

[Jada]

No.

[Fat Joe]

Why wouldn't you take away the fat? Did the man represent like you represent the Bronx?

[Jada]

We don't live there.

[Fat Joe]

I live in Jersey. But the point is, he live in Jersey or Detroit.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Yeah, yeah.

[42 Dugg]

The equivalent of Jersey.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jada]

He lived like that.

[Fat Joe]

That nigga could be in Puerto Vallarta. He could be in the south of France. He could be in fucking wherever he Want to be. Eminem could be wherever he want to be. And he out there by the big tire in the highway. That takes dedication.

[42 Dugg]

No, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

You ever been out there in Detroit in the fucking winter?

[Jada]

I got family in Detroit.

[Fat Joe]

Family in Detroit. Yo, I came out the strip club one night in a fucking fur, looking like a grizzly. And I walked out, I said, ah, this shit was like that cold in Detroit.

[42 Dugg]

Think about New York. You don't think this motherfucker cold.

[Fat Joe]

I like that.

[42 Dugg]

I think this worser than us.

[Fat Joe]

Coldest place, Hell, hell, no. Coldest place I ever been in my life is Detroit. Second coldest. Toronto.

[42 Dugg]

It's cold.

[Fat Joe]

I'm in that one day, the shit heat just wouldn't come on. I'm in the fucking W4 season, some shit. Best hotel. I call downstairs, they bring the portable heater that ain't doing nothing. I call again, they bring another portable heater. I end up sleeping in the fucking truck outside with the heat on that cold in Toronto. And I'm always. I wasn't in the La Quinta, bro. I was in the best they got out there. The heat can't match the cold.

[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

Some of the artists you looked up to could be from Detroit. It could be from wherever. But I would like some Detroit rappers, you know what I'm saying, On your list.

[42 Dugg]

Peasy.

[Jada]

No doubt.

[Fat Joe]

That's my guy.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, that was. That probably was to me, the second of Jeezy, like, to me, you know what I'm saying? Cause he was rapping. Shit we was going through. Like, we'd be hanging yesterday, next week when you hear Peezy, like, we was just in it. So, you know what I'm saying? That's really how I learned how to rap.

[Fat Joe]

Super relatable.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[42 Dugg]

Like, that's probably where I took my direction of rapping.

[Fat Joe]

Right here. This set is the only place you can wear fur coat and still be cold. This shit out of control. Y' all niggas, man. Y' all different. This is like jingle in this bitch.

[Jada]

I feel it. Peasy, though it usually don't reach.

[Fat Joe]

This shit worse than outside.

[42 Dugg]

So Peezy, I don't know if y' all heard him. Blade, Icewood.

[Jada]

Blade, Icewood, definitely.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah. Blade, Icewood.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know. Blake, Icewood. I gotta get.

[42 Dugg]

He down there was. He should have. He got killed.

[Jada]

He killed him. Yeah, he got killed.

[42 Dugg]

He probably was gonna make it. Like, he was rapping mainstream back then. Like, you know what I'm saying? But on Detroit time, then let me see who. Probably Ray. Oh, like, you know, I fucked with everybody, you know.

[Fat Joe]

They jacked the girl, man. The girl from out there. What was her name? They stole a whole style, by the way. The whole. The whole America stole her shit. She started a flow. Her style and the fucking world. Guys, girls, everybody ran with her shit. I'm gonna be honest with you.

[42 Dugg]

Oh, for sure.

[Fat Joe]

She. She.

[42 Dugg]

I feel like she was making song hard. Like you ever had somebody you like, when they get on that and make the song better. She had a silly ass.

[Fat Joe]

He's the king of that.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Jada]

Hell, yeah.

[42 Dugg]

For sure.

[Jada]

They definitely. They definitely took her style and multiplied it.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, my God. The biggest in the game. I used to hear be like, yo, is this Dej Loaf? Yeah, like. Cause they all ran with her shit. That's almost like fucking Bone Thugs created their own style. We can start a debate, whatever you want.

[42 Dugg]

No, we like Bone Thugs.

[Fat Joe]

But Bone Thugs, next thing you know, I hear Mariah Carey send them out. And then I'm in that. Yeah, running with they shit. So you forgot it was they shit. Like, they ran with Bone Thug shit to the more it became normal. Every R and B record had the flow. Like they could have sued everybody.

[42 Dugg]

Like a melodic cadence to it.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know what to tell you. I'm listening to the shit. I said, yo, they jacking the fuck out of Bone Thugs right now.

[42 Dugg]

Who was first, Twister or Bone Thug?

[Fat Joe]

That's the problem. Twisted, we don't know. Nah, I don't know.

[Jada]

That can be twisted.

[Fat Joe]

Came up before Aaron hall was before R. Kelly.

[42 Dugg]

Who that?

[Fat Joe]

Who's that?

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You ever heard Jam or Jam, Teddy? Jam for me. Y', all, listen, Aaron hall was the king. I mean, King guy. He was the most popular shit.

[Jada]

And then what happened?

[Fat Joe]

R. Kelly came out beyond think Arcade.

[42 Dugg]

Is the greatest of all time.

[Fat Joe]

He definitely there.

[Jada]

One of them.

[Fat Joe]

Really. One of them. He'll come out here. They let him get a furlough. He'll come out here, shit on anybody in the verse.

[Jada]

Now listen to this.

[Fat Joe]

If they let him give furloughs on all of them.

[42 Dugg]

Look, look, look.

[Jada]

The feds don't give out furloughs.

[42 Dugg]

This was the question here, right? We be having this debate. If R. Kelly get out tomorrow, do you think he will sell out? Concert, Hell, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Second.

[Jada]

Yeah, but what about the shit he just said about Nemo or Emo? They ain't gonna do that to R. Kelly.

[Fat Joe]

Do what?

[Jada]

The district. They say the shit you.

[Fat Joe]

This scenario we talking about where I said they would do that to Tupac. They ain't doing that to R. Kelly. R. Kelly, like he said, when you cool, it is what it is. That's R and B.

[Jada]

All right. Just asking.

[Fat Joe]

R. Kelly, I think he'll sell out.

[Jada]

As soon as he get out. If they said R. Kelly getting out tomorrow and he announced the concert when he got out, that shit sold out.

[42 Dugg]

R. Kelly ain't sold his catalog.

[Fat Joe]

I don't think he owned it. So what happens is R. Kelly. R. Kelly wasn't so smart. Business wise.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So R. Kelly was a genius. Not even with the pen. He couldn't write.

[Jada]

Dyslexic. He was right back.

[Fat Joe]

So he write on the recorder. I've done songs.

[Jada]

Yeah. He do the melody, then he put the words to it.

[Fat Joe]

He sits there with the mic with him. He sit there with the fucking recorder, do the melody, put the words to it. I've done hits with R. Kelly, so I know.

[42 Dugg]

I do the melody like he humming.

[Jada]

He is, right?

[Fat Joe]

He just came for the suit.

[Jada]

He just make noise like, you want me? Then he put the words with it.

[Fat Joe]

Man can't write, but he a genius. So he go on the recorder, hum the melody. He hum the melody, then he put.

[42 Dugg]

The words like Best of Both Worlds. That was hard.

[Fat Joe]

That Best of Both Words. That's probably my second favorite album of all time. It's Illmatic. Nas.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And it's Best of Worlds.

[42 Dugg]

No, for real, though. I'm like this right here. Sweet. Right here, bro. I was young.

[Fat Joe]

This was like.

[Jada]

I go.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Four Worlds.

[42 Dugg]

Did they tour for that?

[Fat Joe]

Let me see a little body.

[42 Dugg]

They did one out of that. Mother was crazy. Crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Somebody girl is at this show.

[Jada]

He's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

She coming home with me. Somebody girl is at this. Yo, bro, sit in this vip. I really, you know. Yo, he doesn't own any of his stuff either. Very little, apparently.

[Jada]

He got sold it early.

[Fat Joe]

It's all tied up with the labels. And then other stuff is tied up because of court shit and whatnot, too. I don't even think that, you know, I know the real. If you want the real, you don't want the fake.

[Jada]

It was the real.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody ain't willing to say this. That's why you never heard it before.

[42 Dugg]

You know what I think?

[Jada]

What?

[42 Dugg]

I think he got in trouble, was like, this. Your name, this all night. You got there. You got the.

[Fat Joe]

No.

[42 Dugg]

So they can't take.

[Fat Joe]

What happened was that would have been. They called him and they stepped to him and said, don't put you in jail because you did this. Not speculation, not nothing. You did this to her. How about you sign over your catalog and you're publishing to us and we won't put you in jail. And he signed it. He fought a court case. And, you know, when he came time, he couldn't even pay for his lawyer. Also be clear that if he would have went to jail for other crimes, I'm sure everybody would have chipped in and got him the best lawyer in the world. But once you play with that crime, sexual assault, you cannot.

[42 Dugg]

What are you in jail for?

[Fat Joe]

Sexual assault, Pedophile, shit like that. Each his own bottle 18.

[Jada]

I can't really tell you.

[Fat Joe]

I don't understand.

[42 Dugg]

Is he in a federal penitentiary?

[Fat Joe]

No, no, he done. We never seen offense.

[42 Dugg]

No, no, I think he don't get.

[Fat Joe]

No, he can't never ever seeing R. Kelly because he just lied from us.

[Jada]

But he getting out.

[42 Dugg]

I think Trump gonna get him.

[Fat Joe]

Hell no. Trump, though, Let me explain something to you, Fat Joe. He can't.

[Jada]

He got nothing to offer him.

[42 Dugg]

Man, when Trump you gonna see him get so many motherfucking dots.

[Fat Joe]

I'm the last true R. Kelly fan. I watched that trial.

[42 Dugg]

No, I'm a fan.

[Jada]

The fuck is you talking about? Crack.

[Fat Joe]

I watched every day of his trial. I prayed every day for R. Kelly that he beat it because he was my friend. Yeah. And I was hoping he wasn't guilty of this. And I prayed and prayed and prayed and hoped he was innocent. I'm telling you, I don't know if everybody else went to that trial. No. No to that length.

[Jada]

What about now?

[Fat Joe]

I can't.

[Jada]

Where you at with him now?

[Fat Joe]

I just can't do it. I just can't do it.

[42 Dugg]

Hey, you know what?

[Fat Joe]

I want to. He done went to jail for murder. I'd have paid for every lawyer in the world.

[42 Dugg]

He did currently, huh?

[Jada]

That's what. I don't know.

[42 Dugg]

He did back then, like in the 90s.

[Fat Joe]

Look, look, hold on, hold on.

[Jada]

Let me say something. Because you his lawyer.

[Fat Joe]

But listen, you guys say. Look, I don't gotta say guilty. What you want me.

[Jada]

He did some illmatic because he did some and they've stashed it for mad years. He did some to little girls and then trouting happened till she was a grown lady.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Jada]

So they threw that one out, but then they came with some other shit.

[Fat Joe]

The point is, he started.

[Jada]

Fuck, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

The point is, if you allegedly kill two people and get away with it, OJ Simpson, you move to South Africa.

[42 Dugg]

Or you move to Dallas.

[Fat Joe]

You do not Diddy bop around the white people at Morton Steakhouse thinking you're. You slip on a banana pill, my Nigga. You getting 10,000 years.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

It is what it is. So the guy was hot, and I guess he kept playing with fire. And then it was like, hello. And he has life, guys.

[42 Dugg]

Dang.

[Fat Joe]

They have an extra case waiting for him in Chicago. That has nothing to do with this. That they said if by chance.

[Jada]

Chill.

[Fat Joe]

He got enough. If he ever attempts to come Out. We got this one on him. He's done. God bless.

[Jada]

I gotta get the. Out.

[Fat Joe]

You don't want to listen, I don't.

[Jada]

I can't understand.

[Fat Joe]

There's a guy who, you know, there's a. I'm. I'm telling you what I.

[Jada]

He's got a layaway case.

[Fat Joe]

I don't think so. He's got. Listen, he's got a 30 year federal sentence from New York for racketeering and trafficking with an appeals court. And it was held up and they hit him with a lot of bullshit. He also has a 20 year federal sentence from Chicago.

[Jada]

Look, he got New York and Chicago.

[Fat Joe]

But with 19 years concurrent. One consecutive. Okay, so 19 of that would be time served, right, In New York. And then he has to do a one. So it's a 31 year segment. Technically. If you want to Google, Google the case they got sitting there for him for whenever he thinks he's coming. Manuel Nor. Manuel Nor, lay away all.

[42 Dugg]

Nor.

[Fat Joe]

Used to own Panama. The United States got rid of him, put him in jail. The minute after 30 years that thought he was coming home, France hit him with a case for 34 years. That's what they're going to do.

[Jada]

Then you compare Manuel Noriega.

[Fat Joe]

R. Kelly is. R. Kelly is Manuel Noriega. Biggest guy of our time besides Michael. Michael Jackson, bro. God bless the man. That's all I could say. You know, and the victims and everything. We. We not. You know, I. I wrote it out to the last. Trust me. I wrote it out to the last. People were telling me I'm crazy. I'm like, yo, I'm praying. I'm going this once. You. Once you. There's nothing I could do. You know, it is what it is.

[42 Dugg]

This.

[Fat Joe]

All right, let's move on.

[Jada]

Top of the year, man. New project. Hey, nice game. What's up with the Pistons? They in first. They are in first place.

[Fat Joe]

Joint.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, man. I'm trying to get like, you, bab. They show you Corsair, you got a new coat on, a new watch.

[Fat Joe]

I can't play with these people.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta give them the pain.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, me and my homie, we be showing. Me and baby. We was just looking at your baby like, yeah, can't nobody fuck with big boy.

[Fat Joe]

He like.

[42 Dugg]

He like, damn. He freshes out here.

[Fat Joe]

I'm going Christmas Day. I invited him.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, yeah, he got. Y' all gotta go, man.

[Fat Joe]

My outfit, premeditated. I'm telling you right now. I should just walk in there with yellow tape on me because this bad for the people.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, man.

[Fat Joe]

Gotta give me the hat. Your man Tmar, he been stalling the hat for a month. I've been telling him my outfit. Premeditated.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Standing by itself there, just waiting to give him the business. Just, you know, I had shit. You're not listening to me. The Bronx ain't much different than Detroit. I ain't have shit. They used to make fun of me. Kiss. You're not chop liver yourself. You dip fresh all the time, too. Why do you throw that shit on?

[42 Dugg]

He gotta represent for D Block.

[Fat Joe]

Hold up. But he got it. What's the answer? You don't have an answer to why.

[Jada]

You think so much? I like good, man.

[Fat Joe]

Clothes make you feel good.

[Jada]

You look good. You feel good, man. I mean, that's just sometimes. Sometimes I wear the same shit for a month.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, I can't do that.

[42 Dugg]

Grinding.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Yeah.

[Jada]

Sometimes when they get back, I want.

[Fat Joe]

To remind myself I did that in jail. I ain't doing that shit. Fuck that.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Same shit. You wear the same shit for a month? I'm 42.

[42 Dugg]

Nah. Hell no. But I buy the same shit for a week. I might wear a different Nike tech for a week straight. It kind of feel like.

[Fat Joe]

What's the thing with the Nike tech that the kids always love it. I mean.

[42 Dugg]

I mean, it's like, down there. It's comfortable.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[42 Dugg]

It's chill. Yeah. Yeah, it's chill. Like anything in that motherfucker.

[Fat Joe]

People was in a Nike tech and black Air Force ones.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Some reason they'd be like, I'm shooting someone today. Bring out the black Nike tech.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And the Air Force One.

[Jada]

That's the shooters. That's this.

[Fat Joe]

Come to you with that. That black on. Just know that. About to fly.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you. Where you see yourself in the future. 42, man.

[42 Dugg]

Hopefully selling the catalog for a billion. You hear me? No doubt, man. I'm trying to get there, you know? I really want to put, like, the next person behind me in this position, and then I just want to fall back. You know what I'm saying? Just give me. Give me a bankroll, you know, we're.

[Fat Joe]

Putting people on sometimes. Not all the times, but sometimes it becomes heartbreaking.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Right. Because you go and you say you started, right? Your dream come true. You rap. Did you know? We can't confirm that. You knew when you grew up in Detroit and you woke up that you was going to be iced out sitting on the Joe and Jada. We ain't know that. Right. So now you take whatever Clout, leverage you got. You put the next man on. You use your juice. You get the right people to produce. You put rappers on they shit. You show them everywhere. Yo, 42. What's up, 42? Yo, this rapper, Jimmy Cricket. This is rapper such and such. You blow them up.

[42 Dugg]

You know, I read somewhere, I seen somewhere where you was like, I ain't signing nobody up.

[Fat Joe]

Never.

[42 Dugg]

You like somebody getting out, like, fuck, Fast Joe. You like, I ain't. I ain't stabbing nobody else.

[Fat Joe]

That's on them. They can say whatever they want. I changed. Fat Joe has changed about 10 people's lives and made a millionaires.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And I come from. Shit. I just told you. I come from free cheese Welfare fucked up the Bronx.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And I took 10 guys and girls that didn't have nothing and said, all right, I'm going to help you. And they over, bro. You know, I discovered DJ Khaled. Do you know that? You never knew that?

[42 Dugg]

I suspected that.

[Fat Joe]

I discovered. No, no. You could do whatever you want. You say whatever you want. I'm talking. You can say, okay, who gives?

[42 Dugg]

Do you get money from discovering Kelly?

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you what happened. So anyway, I discovered KA put him on his first seven albums, is on Terror Squad. All I do is win everything. All his success is his. I just gave him the boost. And the nigga ran and made number ones and didn't stop. But let me tell you about. There's an interview that Khaled just did with Joe La Puma. I don't know what that complex, bro.

[42 Dugg]

I watched that.

[Fat Joe]

He saw that.

[42 Dugg]

He crazy on that beat.

[Fat Joe]

81 watches, 650 a watch, 800 a watch, 450 a watch, 300 a watch. This, this 81 of them.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Then he go outside. The cause is a half a million, million and a half. Half a million. This a nigga I discovered.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I'm sitting there looking at the screen. I'm like, this is amazing. Like, this is fucking outta control. I'm with him all the time, every day.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

One of my best friends on earth, or Jesus Christ, he didn't even pull out the plane.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Playing 70 million. He pull out the plane. And I'm looking at. He throw the on every day, too. He got a $10,000 outfit on. He no front, no gather.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I go to his house, shout out Chef Melissa, them bring out caviar for. But you win. You been there. They'll give you eggs with caviar on it. Lobster. These niggas ain't playing in there. There Is no. I don't know what to tell you. I pulled them. Maybe I don't do it no more, but maybe around Covid and all that, I pull them to the side. I say, you sure you got the bag like this? Like you, like. I've never seen unconsciousness of blowing the bag. I've never seen it in my life. This. My God.

[42 Dugg]

Buy another watch.

[Fat Joe]

He said, joe, I'm good. I told you on his show I made a million dollars. I ran over there so fast to tell him, and he was like, yo, what you want to tell me? We sit down in this backyard. I said, nah. He said, hold up. You know, I just did a Colgate commercial. Five million in my bathroom ain't leave my house. What you was telling me. I was like. I felt like a crackhead. I couldn't even tell him I made a million dollars on this shit. I turned around, shut the fuck up. But look at the blessings. Look at all the people he helps, all the people he employs. So all the people he helped get on that came from here. This is the family tree. And we could go along the line, man, Scott Storch made 85 million 11 year.

[42 Dugg]

I just met Scott Storch.

[Fat Joe]

Fat Joe. Yeah. Scott Storch was doing all that music. Nobody with him himself, you know, he did. Still Dre, all them. He did all that?

[42 Dugg]

I ain't know he did. I just thought that was a routine.

[Fat Joe]

He do. Oh, yeah.

[Jada]

Nah, he made some shits.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, yeah. That's what you thought.

[Jada]

Anything you heard about that?

[Fat Joe]

Crimea river, all that.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, through the whole.

[Fat Joe]

Listen to me. He did all that.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Nobody gave him credit.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

As far as it went. There's a guy who did all the Tupac shit. We never. I don't know his name. There's a guy who produced all that. All our zombies. All that, huh? Johnny J. Money. Johnny J. We never heard him. I don't even know the girl's name. On doing it and doing it well, that's his. Yeah. What's the girl's name? Tell me you heard it how many times? There's a way for people not to get their props. There's a way for people not to get discovered. Yeah. I did Lean Back with Scott Storch. I said, Scott Storch. Next day, he had a hundred rappers at his door. After I mentioned his name. He already did. Still Dre. This one, that one. This one. This one. The day I said Scott Storch, he had a cheese line down the block. Your favorite rapper on there, he was Just like, yo, you got something. Got something that was walking out of there like this. I did that.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

85 million he made in that one year.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

After that, lean back. And he earned it. You know what I'm saying? He deserves it. But I mean, like, you know that, you know, but that's one guy who made all that money and used to tell. He used to have a boat behind his house, Scott Storage. Got the yacht. 100 foot yacht, this, that. He told the captain, I don't care what time this man walk in this house. You take him wherever the he want to go. And boy, we used to abuse at 42. I was still young. Back we come after the club, nigga, 25 in the morning, yo, Captain, nigga wake up with shit in his eyes and be like, yo, we going out sunset, we want to see shit come up. He get in that boat, we out there. You know, he was one guy. He's a very generous guy, Scott Storch. He really was. But, you know, that's what you do it for. You know, my favorite line was Jay Z's line. And I never know nothing, so I ain't gonna get it right. Y' all probably know it where he says, if we born, we be each other's crutches. If we fall, we be each other's crutches. So the concept is you can't be the only rich guy you fall off. Your friends can't help you. Yeah, big mistake we make. The more of your friends that win. We hope they come through and they help you when you need them. Yeah, your team gotta be winning at whatever they do. So whenever you need help, they'll come and help you.

[42 Dugg]

What about when they can't get it right, though? What you do, Substitute these niggas, what you call them? Like clip when you trying to help some motherfucker. But they can't get it right. They can't beat crutches if they don't get it right.

[Fat Joe]

On my team, they really want to work. They got a job.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Now this niggas don't want to work.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You wake up, you calling me five in the afternoon. Yo, I got two bitches over here, this and that. He don't want to work. I've had friends that never had a job in their life and was like, yo, take me to Jay Z. I'm like, for what? If anybody really want to work in the crew, they got a job. But we can't carry dudes that don't want to work or want to fuck shit up. Or fuck up the vibe up. You can't do it.

[42 Dugg]

Never.

[Fat Joe]

I agree. Is the line you were speaking of. If your clique is rich, your click is rugged. Nobody will fall because everyone will be each other's crutches. Rich.

[Jada]

Your click is rugged.

[Fat Joe]

Click. Your clique is rugged.

[Jada]

No one will fall.

[Fat Joe]

No one will fall because we'll be each other's crutches. That's how it's supposed to work. Now, I could tell you I went to jail for taxes. Nobody was my crutch. Nobody came and said, yo, my, here's a dollar. Nobody body.

[42 Dugg]

At what point do you go to jail for tax?

[Fat Joe]

Well, you got to pay taxes. Yeah. So America says, land of the free. It ain't free if you do not pay your taxes. Yeah. Sooner or later, they will come and say, let's go. They got somebody in jail six months. I was saying, no, somebody in jail right now. Huh. Well, you ain't paid, so you make a million dollars. I don't know what it is in Detroit. Here in New York, half a million goes to them. Gotta pay the taxes. That will put you out of business. Me, personally, I paid my taxes. I had an accountant, and every month he. I was sending them wires like I was paying my taxes. The nigga was robbing me.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So when they came to me and said, yo, you ain't pay your taxes. We went to the wires and was like, no, no. We sent this guy the wire every month. They said, you, as the leader of your household, are responsible for who you hire, pay your taxes, practice. And they fucked me. He stole my money. I wound up paying the shit again before I even went to court. And they gave me time. Guess what? When I came out of jail four months later, you got eight months. That eight months I worked my ass off to pay the money that I had just paid them. So say you owe them. I owe them 1.2 million without a penalty. They gave me a bigger penalty. 1.4 million penalty, right. So I paid them the 1.2. How about when I got out of jail, I had to work for eight months to pay them half of the 1.2 I gave them because they said, man, you had a good year. You just paid us. This shit ain't to play with the taxes. Do me a favor. Take that serious, because they'll come, and then your whole life, they'll haunt you. Can't get a passport to leave the country. Can't get a license. You can't? Nah. They'll fuck you, legend. They don't play Nah, they want their money. Or you could move to Dubai, where there ain't no taxes, there ain't no crime, the streets are nice, made out of marbles.

[42 Dugg]

And there's no deportation.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, Dubai is deportation. That's little Dirk. In them is no weed. Damn, man. So you really bothered if you had to go move somewhere? Yeah, but. So you went with no weed? Okay, what was that like? It was cool. Okay, let me ask you something. The second that plane landed, you left the bags, right? You ran straight outside. Yeah, yeah. They brought it to the airport, but you ran past the bags. No. You did not stop for your bags. Did you stop for your bag? You ran right outside and lit it up. That's me with a Diet Pepsi, a Diet Coke. The doctor told me, stop the Diet Pepsi. Stop the Diet Cokes. I said, well, this is where we got a problem. Yeah, you told them. No, I told them, you know, I'm gonna change the fluidity. You see, the water is more water than Diet Coke. But I got. It's like a drug for me. I gotta have it. So now we. Let's queue up the music. Look at the power of 42. Doug the man hit me up and said, oh, gee, I'm ready to come and throw that shit on. He came and sat on that couch. You know how many niggas told me they coming and can't come? I don't know if you. You know how many guys told me, yo, next week I'm in New York.

[Jada]

They got access like that for two.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta figure out who put you on the couch. Cause you just can't come on the couch. Yeah, 42 said, I'm coming with that shit on. I said, no problem. Come sit on the couch, baby.

[42 Dugg]

Nah, for sure appreciate you, homie.

[Fat Joe]

Baby, 42 different, man. You know what I'm saying? He might be short, but he a giant, big heart. What's these songs, right? Let's go to this song right here.

[Jada]

Exclusive. But we lit what we got.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, there's two songs coming from my upcoming project, Part three. I really, like, left it up to the fans to determine, no doubt, what the part three is, too. Because I did part two 1, 1, 2 for home. Wayburn. I did young and turn two. So instead of naming the young and turn three or 1, 1, 2, 4 1. Wayburn. Part three. I just named it part three, part three. And I'm like, y' all tell me, what was it more Part 3 of Young Turn or way around? You know what I'm saying? So I feel like it's a mixture of both this song, me and Skiller, me and Steeler. He from two different sides, you know what I'm saying? So at first, me and his side ain't really rock like that. Rock like that, you know what I'm saying? So I got out and I'm like, you know what? I ain't really got no problem, homie. You know what I'm saying? Plus, if it's gonna do better for Detroit, I'm all for it, you know what I'm saying? So me and him kicked it, and I'm like, shit, send me something. He pulled up to the studio, he played me this song, and I'm like, yeah. I'm like, I need this one. I did some shit for him. And I'm like, let me take this one, though. He more like talk the shit for the girls and all this shit. I'm more like in the streets with it, you know what I'm saying? So I went over to his lane, and, you know, I feel like we made a bad. This hard right here.

[Fat Joe]

What's it called?

[42 Dugg]

Thick one.

[Jada]

Let's get it, let's get it. Cranky Crockett.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one so many bitches so many bitches it's hard just to pick one it's hard just to pick one but if I got two but if I got two I want want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one I want the thick one she want the.

[42 Dugg]

Rich one Pick one It's a gang of us in here who trying to spend something rich over 200 I got three of these once I pay for the pussy, baby, you could leave My little CC she from DC Used to.

[Fat Joe]

Suck dick for free till she met.

[42 Dugg]

A nice pen I know I said five, but I got three bands. Hey, bro, want the thick one? I want the Sister came from the kitchen we do the cooking I know the bookies, I know the plug she selling, I'm selling drugs you see me with cuz D in the A He running through the P I'm running through the H I'm catch you a play, make you a 10 how y' all wear lashes? You a kid grow my leggings my be special that punish we back to stepping Call up the Stuff bring back the extra, she got a B car on lock wheel I'm paying cash that.

[Fat Joe]

That back, boy no, I want the.

[Jada]

Thick one, want the thick one, man.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

I want the thick one. I want the thick one. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one.

[Fat Joe]

The opposite crate, this a hit.

[42 Dugg]

She want the rich one, pick one. It's a gang of us in here who trying to spend something rich over 200. I got three of these once I pay for the baby, you could leave my CC she from DC used to.

[Fat Joe]

Suck dick for free till she met.

[42 Dugg]

A pen I said five but I got three bands. Hey bro, want the thick one? I want the sister came from the kitchen, we do the cooking I know the bookies like I know the plugs she selling, I'm selling drugs. You see me with cuz down in the A he running through the P, I'm running through the H. Come catch you a blade, make you a 10 how you don't wear lances, you a kid chrome hard leggings my bitch is pressure all that punching, we back to stepping call up the stubborns, bring back the extra she got ass, bitch and I got a bag cars on lock.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

Wheel, I'm paying cash so many, so many. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one. But if I got two, but if I got two. I want the thick one, I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one.

[42 Dugg]

I want the thick one.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I don't care if you dark skinned or you red, long as you eat your cabbage and cornbread. You can hop on that table, it don't matter. Oh, you been in the gym girl that ass fatter baby, bend it over, do your sheet, make that ass wobble, you so thick, shake that ass, move your hips you gonna make a come pay your rent, baby you pressure baby, you pressure. You so impressive, so impressive. Singing like jelly, you so damn sexy. You so damn sexy. It's so many, so many. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one.

[42 Dugg]

But if I got two, but if.

[Guest Vocalist / Singer]

I got two, I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. So many bitches so many bitches. It's hard just to pick one. It's hard just to pick one. But if I got two. But if I got two. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one. I want the thick one.

[Fat Joe]

I want the day crazy. It's a hit.

[42 Dugg]

Appreciate it.

[Jada]

Make some noise a hit. January this week.

[Fat Joe]

You can't fool me.

[42 Dugg]

23Rd man, this week, man.

[Jada]

This week. Make sure you get it all. Platforms, part three, part three.

[42 Dugg]

Every man, part three. Jo and Jada for having us on here, man. Real street. We respect y'.

[Jada]

All.

[42 Dugg]

We with y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Jada]

The long way east side of Detroit. I like. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I want the thick one.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[42 Dugg]

Yeah, that.

[Jada]

That shit's gonna rock. That is gonna rock.

[Fat Joe]

No, yo, but how thick is thick? I seen this on Instagram. No, there we go. Hold on. Oh, hey, y'. All. I see some.

[Jada]

I want that.

[Fat Joe]

That one. You gotta understand. Hey, I'm saying I seen some.

[Jada]

Too thick.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know if you've seen it. It's a little dude on a racetrack with this girl. She's like an Amazon. Her. Like, what could he do with that? Like, she's. She the thicker than thick one. Yeah, she, too.

[Jada]

Thicker than thick one.

[Fat Joe]

Thicker than thick one. That's the remix. Remix. But, yo, this ain't that.

[Jada]

That ain't this.

[Fat Joe]

It's cracking. God damn it.

[Jada]

Make some noise for my folk, too, Duck.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, appreciate y'. All.

[42 Dugg]

Appreciate y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[42 Dugg]

On me.

[Jada]

Look.