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Fat Joe
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Fat Joe
Yo, I'm toasting to our sister, Cardi B. Big episode.
Jada
Congratulations.
Fat Joe
You got that baby coming. That's right, baby number four.
Jada
That's right.
Fat Joe
And so we gonna salute for her because she can't drink right now.
Jada
No doubt.
Fat Joe
We can't pass us Cliff, you know, no way. So we just gonna keep it. Joe and Jada.
Jada
This ain't that, that ain't this.
Fat Joe
And it's crack and kiss. God damn it. Welcome Cardi. Ace of Spade. Yo, what up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the Dawn, AKA El MBE.
Jada
This is your boy, Jada. You know what it is The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic today is none other than that. Ladies and gentlemen, people of the live studio audience, those at home watching, please make some noise for our girl.
Fat Joe
The Bronx is on.
Jada
The Bronx is.
Fat Joe
Get that shit right.
Jada
The Bronx is on. Cardi B, AKA party, AKA the princess. Welcome to the couch.
Cardi B
Hello.
Jada
It's an honor.
Cardi B
Thank you.
Jada
It's a privilege.
Fat Joe
We just honored to have you here. You know, every time I talk about the Bronx, you know, they get mad at me over here because, you know, I'm just so proud of where we from.
Cardi B
We're so proud of where we from.
Fat Joe
Ain't that some shit?
Cardi B
Cause it's so. I love the Bronx.
Fat Joe
I mean, you. I know how hard it was for me or for any guy to get up out the Bronx, so I always make reference to you because I'm like, yo, it must have been some shit for Cardi, because we don't know how hard it is to get up out of that, stay up out of that. And it's almost impossible to come up out of the Bronx the way you have.
Jada
You know what I think with the difference at times, like, when you came up, you know what I mean? You're a little bit older than us. When you came up, it was like a. First of all, we didn't have no technology and none of that. And, like, hardships was some shit you didn't want to show. She was able to use coming out of the trenches to her advantage. It bloomed to a fucking megastar with her braveness of showing, going off for them, shopping, and that made the chicks, that made people gravitate to her.
Fat Joe
What was it like growing up in the Bronx? Like, what was your experience?
Cardi B
It's. It's so many experiences. Like, what can I say? You know? Like, it's. It's. It's so many experiences. Like, the good is that I have fun. The good is that I have fun. The bad is seeing things. The bad is feeling broke. You know what I'm saying? The fat. The bad is cleaning your house all day, taking out the. Taking out the garbage every night. You still gonna have some riches, still gonna have some ISIS and everything. Me and my sister, we seen somebody get their head blown off. Like, it be shit like that. You know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Regular shit.
Cardi B
Regular shit. When you're a pretty girl, like, it's like, I was a pretty girl, and I like to have my stomach out, and I had all the piercings and shit like that. So it's just like, it's like, you get tried, you get violated, you get.
Fat Joe
Every trip to the bodega, every triple.
Cardi B
Dig is like, I like, if I see this bitch is on, why the I gotta be on if I see this bitch? Imma fight this bitch cause I'm about to buy plantains for my mom type shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just the. That's what it is in the. In the Bronx and everything. And everybody just move a little faster. Like bitches was 11 getting fucked and sucking dick and was just doing. And I 11, I 11. And I got little nieces now that were like, damn, you 11. And you so innocent playing Roblox.
Fat Joe
Thank God.
Jada
Facts, right? Good Lord.
Fat Joe
God damn that.
Cardi B
Thank God.
Fat Joe
You could change it up, but you know, you're the first artist that came on this couch with the dumbest biggest diamonds on your shit. That is some Bronx shit. Yo, yo, Mayor. This is a fucking Bronx. Yo. This a fucking Bronx, this. What the fuck we do now?
Cardi B
Let me tell you something.
Fat Joe
We don't take it easy.
Cardi B
No, no, no. For the past couple of months, I've been like, hiding. I've been putting big shit on. I mean, I've been like, wearing big dresses and shit. Today I was like, I'm addressed like a fucking rapper. Today I'm going to be a bad bitch. Today I've been dressing like a fucking nun for like four or five months. Hiding these motherfuckers. Hiding this motherfucker.
Fat Joe
Now listen, Yo, Jada, you got. We got gifts for her. Yeah, come on. It's right behind you, brother. No bones, no patrol. Come on now. What I got for me had bottle of Patron. Now we got a gift for you.
Jada
Hey, Joe and Jada. Onesies, man.
Cardi B
Let me tell you something. If y' all want to buy me gifts, just buy my album so I can buy Spam.
Jada
That's a fact.
Cardi B
Oh, it's so tiny. Oh, another one.
Fat Joe
Oh, we love it. Another one, Another.
Cardi B
I was just here a couple of months ago.
Fat Joe
You know, the babies mess up the clothes faster than anybody.
Cardi B
Oh, I'm doing it again.
Fat Joe
You doing it again. Now what I did notice, right, is since Cardi B. As long as I've known you in your career, not personally, I feel like you always been in a relationship. Like, you don't like to be single, right?
Cardi B
I don't like to be single. And I always been a lover girl. Like, that's just what I am. I'm like the type of person that is like, if I fuck ya, I might fall in love with y'.
Fat Joe
All.
Cardi B
And you gotta be mine. Ain't no way around it. So I just Always been a relationship girl. I always liked family. I always wanted the house, the fences, the everything. Like, that's always been my. One of my goals, so. But now I'm doing.
Fat Joe
So you super in love right now?
Cardi B
Yeah. You think I'll be.
Jada
You think I'm in baby number four?
Fat Joe
You gotta be super love. Because you know why a lot of people ain't super in love, right?
Cardi B
I. I won't be like this if I ain't.
Fat Joe
You know, it's. It's almost weird to me when I'm driving to Summer and I see a couple staring at each other, really in love, kissing like. I don't see that no more. Like. Like that love. Like that happiness. That love. You know, most people get jealous of that shit when they see that.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And you.
Jada
You know why you don't see that a lot is a lack of privacy. We come from a time when love was love. Now somebody's across it. Somebody's at the next dinner table like this, watching you and just shooting it everywhere.
Fat Joe
So shout out Stephon Diggs, right? That's daddy. That's baby daddy. You know what I'm saying? I'm not getting better. This. This.
Jada
I didn't say one.
Fat Joe
The woman came out with the. She's pregnant, man. We wait. Yo, I was what? We was two interviews behind Breaking the News. Gayle King got you, huh? God damn, man. You the K1 7 goes to what? I was my mail, on my mail, on my mail, on my mail.
Jada
It had been out of here.
Fat Joe
Out of here.
Jada
We still out of here. Because this is technically one of the first speaking about Athen making the announcement.
Fat Joe
You know, this gets me more angry. To be confirmed that you think you're having a baby is the bullshit lawsuit they put you through in court. Like, I don't know if you know, I was mad as fuck.
Jada
You was a cheating in that court.
Fat Joe
I'm watching that shit, mad as fuck. I'm like, yo, what you tell us that she was tough. Tell us for real what she did to you.
Jada
It's over, right? There's no statute. You can't get in.
Cardi B
It's over. No, for real. It was just a verbal argument. It wasn't nothing but a verbal argument.
Fat Joe
She put the camera in your feelings that she.
Jada
Like an ATM?
Cardi B
Yes.
Jada
Bank of America.
Fat Joe
Yo, how the fuck in 2025 you sued somebody for a verbal. For harassing the person.
Cardi B
Yes.
Fat Joe
And you taking a stand.
Jada
See, how did it even. Was it even able to make it all the way to court like that?
Cardi B
They have to be. They need to start doing something about this because this is getting like ridiculous. Like frivolous celebrities for anything now. And not only that, but it's like, okay, like, my shit was small, but it's like there's certain people that get it. Your shit was not smart, and their career is ruined.
Fat Joe
Yeah, you worked. Go back to that, to what you were saying. But you worked. Imagine you lost 25 million for some shit you ain't doing. Imagine that. You just mad, right? And you lose $25 million. So you gotta hire the right lawyers. When somebody sue me, I'm getting number one.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You know how much money that shit costing? I gotta get number one. You gotta Google my lawyer and be like this motherfucker, number one straight. Oh, I'm scared of that. But that's costing me college.
Cardi B
It's costing money. Like it costing money. And not only that, but it's like somebody could sue you and say the most absurd lie about you, and it will snatch deals off your table before you even go to court. And even. And even if you title or even if the. The lawsuit is thrown away, they'd be like, yeah, still. I still don't want to give you that. With you, because of that accusation, people could accuse you and you could lose everything of that one that they say about you. And it could be the most ridiculous things that never happened that there's not even evidence on. And it would just. It would just turn.
Fat Joe
So if you ain't know I was punching the air watching that shit. Even if you was doing good and everything, I was just so mad. I was just like, yo, how this guy got this girl who worked so hard to come out of nothing and she gotta sit in the stand? I know you paid them lawyers a whole bunch of money.
Cardi B
A whole bunch of money. A whole bunch, hundreds of thousands.
Fat Joe
Yes. That's what they do. That's what they do. I remember I got in trouble with the taxes, and I love the lawyer. That's my brother. But the man said, yo, it's 600,000. And I said, and that's the 600,000. He said, oh, and you gotta go to jail. No, give it to me now. Cause they gonna take your shit anyway. You might as well give it to me. That's the realest shit. I walked outta there. I felt like a dolphin with a hole in my head. I'm walking out that bitch like Gizzy. I'm telling my man, you heard this. And this is our guy. He's like, yo, give it to me. Cause them boy about to take that shit and I had to write that shit down right there. I'm glad you came up out of that and keep voicing your opinion about frivolous lawsuits because America is so unfair. And you know, I might have paid 20 lawsuits in my life for beating people up. And so every I'm. Every time your mother's a lesbian. Fuck you, you pussy, you. This. Punch them in the face. Next thing you know, you in 161. They like, yo, you could drop the case. 50,000. This. After the 20th time, I finally realized, yo, bro, I got to stop punching dudes in the face. They know I got bread costing.
Cardi B
But I didn't even touch.
Fat Joe
I know you didn't. That's what I said.
Jada
Crazy.
Fat Joe
That's what I'm saying. But you came right outside and threw the pen at the like.
Cardi B
Cuz I don't. Don't try to. Don't try to. Like it's not even about to join my business. Don't try to me out. Like it's not even about a being in my business. It's like you trying to like call me a hoe or something. I'm like, be for real. Like you. I know who this person. I know who the fuck nutter than me. Don't even try me like that. And you got your information wrong. Like you know what the you was doing. And he just did it. He just did it to my lawyer. My lawyer. My lawyer is representing little Nas X. Like, so you do that on purpose. But this is why you get lawsuits. Because it's like, you see a nigga like that, you get beat the up.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's a fact.
Jada
This is a family show.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but yo, you always with the family. Fuck the family. The Bronx in the building.
Cardi B
The family. My cousin.
Fat Joe
Yo, that's it.
Cardi B
That's a movie. That's a movie.
Fat Joe
The crazy shit is, yo, you work so hard for your shit and they trying to take your shit.
Jada
They just off block, man. Let's talk about the new album, right? What finally made you want to let some music out? I follow you. So I watch the people always saying, when you gonna let. What really? What made you say fuck it? Let me just. Let me shoot. Let me let it go.
Cardi B
Cause I feel like I touch everything. I feel like I got every type of record. I have rap records. I got pop radio records. I got records that's talking about my personal life. I got sexy records. I got all type of records. And it's like I finally feel like there's nothing missing. There's nothing missing. I know it took a long time, but I feel like right now in my life, it is the right time. I feel like I'm going through a whole reset in life.
Jada
Right. Eclipse had one of the best rollouts we seen in years. And I think you running neck and neck, but you doing that. The other old school traditional kids going on the train. You going on. Are you out enough Cold daggers on top of that.
Fat Joe
That's some flaw shit.
Jada
What made you take it back to the grassroots of promoting a new album?
Cardi B
That's how I used to promote myself.
Jada
Okay.
Cardi B
Like, when I used to go to a. A club hosting, and I would do a video of, like, in my apartment smoking or anywhere, like, yo, come see me here. And it's like, come, come here. I don't know. It's just like, what's entertaining to me, what I like to see, what I like to see down my timeline. So I just put it there. I got my. The way that my label want me to do it, and then I got my own way to do it. I'm not that savvy in the whole TikTok world promotion and the dancing shit. I'm not that.
Fat Joe
You're doing pretty good.
Cardi B
I'm an old bitch, so I'm gonna just do it my own way.
Fat Joe
I almost thought you was mocking the record label. I thought you was like, oh, y' all ain't got the budget. Watch me to go on the fucking train. Watch me go on 125th. Y' all trying to act like, watch how I promote. That's how I took it.
Cardi B
No, no, no, no.
Jada
They gonna put on Jenny Fallon and all that shit she just doing. She goes for the trenches.
Cardi B
Yeah. I just like to do things my way. But they've been very supportive. They've been very supportive and. But you know what? It's not really mocking the haters too, but it's like. Like, people was just kept saying, like. It's like, oh, like the label. I don't think they're gonna support her. It's been seven years, and they're like, be fucking. They make a lot of money off me, child. They gonna support me. They gonna give me somebody.
Fat Joe
He gets mad at me because I go to war with the comments. Like, I see dudes.
Cardi B
I can't help it.
Jada
You know, the other day sometimes I.
Fat Joe
Was talking shit about you, right? I seen you comment on that shit, Jada. But, you know, I went up on that shit. I said, yo, let me tell you something, man. I said, first of all, man, your shit, fake number two is. I've been dying to ask you, meaning that you got my attention. Where you get that goofy hat at, nigga?
Cardi B
Like, hit me up. I could argue all day. I could argue all day.
Fat Joe
You know, in the Bronx. I'm trying to tell you this. The difference is everywhere but project life. People don't understand. They be like, yo, Joe, you be mad funny on the show. You be talking mad shit. I said, bro, every day of the summer, I had to stay up to six in the morning snapping on people.
Cardi B
Yes.
Fat Joe
Every day, talking shit, popping shit. This, this, this. This whole life, this is like nothing. So when you disrespect me on a comment, just know I'm coming right back. I'm chopping your shit off.
Cardi B
But that's what. That's what I'm saying, though. Like, people wouldn't really understand that. Like, it's like, yo, I will look at myself in the mirror and practice my jokes because the next day I'm gonna flame niggas. You talking about I don't got no ass? I got you the next way, nigga. Look at your motherfucking hair that you bum ass nil.
Jada
Get him gaudy.
Cardi B
I could come up with jokes and shit so fucking fast. It's not even. I look at you up and down, and I could roast you. But I had to, because it's like niggas was roasting me.
Fat Joe
Yeah. Let me tell you something. You know, when I was growing up, the tough guys, they had. They. Everybody had a diddy bop. And I. I used to practice three hours a day. My diddy bop, my shit come like this. But I don't fuck with my legs, Jada. I used to come. That's why my shit probably permanently damaged.
Jada
I was about to say, he fucking with my legs. Probably bopping.
Fat Joe
You know, my silo's in London, insured. London. London don't with these.
Jada
You know about his leg? That leg over there?
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cardi B
Y' all can't wear your leg.
Fat Joe
Keep it rap. Everything's perfect with my legs.
Jada
Nothing wrong with it. It's just like.
Fat Joe
Don't listen.
Jada
It's a superior leg, like the Euro Step.
Fat Joe
But let me tell you something, man. This album here, right?
Jada
You waited seven long, seven years. She said, patience. I mean, a lot of money. A lot of money. A lot of Leave Me Alone record label.
Fat Joe
I'm seeing other people saying, yo, maybe she's scared. Maybe she's afraid because her first album was so successful. Super. And I'm just so glad that you finally coming out with your album. And you happy with the product, seeing a lot of females on your album. And Cash Cobain. So you on some female shit. This whole.
Cardi B
Yeah, I'm the nigga in the album.
Fat Joe
You the nigga in the album.
Cardi B
I'm the nigga in the album.
Fat Joe
Talking big shit.
Cardi B
All types of shit. Because I'm on my. I am talking shit. And then I'm also on my soft shit. You know, I'm just a girl.
Fat Joe
No, that first album was a classic. Yeah, the first album was a classic. From head to toe to. There was not one miss on that album. This album right here, I know it's gonna be fire with whatever the fuck you do. I know. Especially if you took your time. So we expected big, big, big, big things, man. What do you wanna accomplish by the second album? Like what you trying to prove now? What do you need to prove?
Jada
You seriously. Well, she don't need to prove anything.
Fat Joe
That's what I'm saying. But what do you know? We always got our shit. He's top five, dead or alive. He thinks he's the best rapper in the world.
Cardi B
He. Yeah.
Jada
Oh, shit. Don't say that. Don't say that. Cardi.
Fat Joe
Listen, Cardi, don't say that.
Cardi B
Get my nigga.
Jada
Don't say that.
Fat Joe
When you leave, he gonna get mad. Hold up before you. You know what happens to this guy? You know what? You know what happens to this guy? You ever seen the Thanksgiving Day parade? His head gets so big. He's floating right now. You. You can't give you flowers. Don't know when you out the window. Thanksgiving Day parade, this. Look.
Jada
That's some drunk.
Fat Joe
He like.
Cardi B
I do that too. Like, yeah, you cute ass nigga. Fuck out of here now.
Fat Joe
We gotta. We got a little joke underneath our breath, though. We like wheelchair, like, yo, what's up, Fat Joe? What's up? Like, but they can't hear it. So somebody in the street. Somebody in the street. I'm in the car. Yo, Crack, what's up? Yeah, pussy, what's up, yo? And we all start laughing in the car. This shit foul. This shit is foul, man. I'm gonna be honest with you. This shit foul. But we do it, though. I'm a keeper.
Jada
So when you gonna. You gonna keep promoting this shit?
Cardi B
Don't fucking stop. It's just the beginning.
Jada
That's why I love you.
Cardi B
That's why it's just the beginning.
Jada
That's why they. That's why we love.
Cardi B
Yeah. Like, I have a whole tour I gotta do in February after this whole album run shit I'm getting now. This is the part that I hate, but I gotta fucking do it. I gotta go to the gym. I hate to change. Gotta go to the gym. I gotta take dance classes.
Fat Joe
You mean after the baby?
Cardi B
No, while I'm pregnant. While I'm pregnant.
Fat Joe
You going on talk pregnant?
Cardi B
No, no, no, no.
Jada
Said February.
Cardi B
By the time I get back, her.
Fat Joe
Shit is all scheduled out. Like, I know Cardi B mapped out.
Cardi B
Mapped out.
Fat Joe
Cardi B will come back. Six packed up on Tuesday, you know, Monday. Baby, come on. Come on. What the fuck you want me to do? I mean, you want me to lie to you? Tell us the story, Cardi B. The baby's on January 1st 2nd. Six packed up. What's up, bitches?
Jada
This is the schedule. Crack.
Cardi B
This is the schedule. The schedule is all right. Next week. That's when I finished the whole album Run. Album run was doing magazine covers, doing interviews, doing music videos, doing all of that. That's done. Now I'm going to the gym. I'm taking dance classes so my body could be nice and loose when I give birth. Now it's straight rehearsal. Straight rehearsal with the dancers. Then in February, I'm ready to fucking bust a move in my. If my thing, ain't no stopping. Like, my label was like, hey, so we don't want to interfere your business. Do you think you want to move the album and move the tour? Live Nation was like, you want to move the tour? Move that one. No, I'm going on tour in February. I'm dropping the album on stage.
Fat Joe
Like, I want that motherfucking.
Cardi B
We gonna do this shit. You gonna see it. And they seen it and they feel like, yeah, fuck yeah. Yeah, we're a part of this.
Jada
Yeah.
Cardi B
Fuck yeah. I'm motivated, and they motivated. So I can't even let them down if they're excited. I. I gotta wake my ass up and ain't no excuse, bitch. Wobble your ass up.
Fat Joe
You know, I seen you the other day, and I really can relate. You give us your version of it, right?
Jada
O said you could relate.
Fat Joe
The other twerking, I could relate. I'm not twerking. Your kiss. What the wrong with you, man?
Jada
Before you said, can you relate? I had to make sure it was no flag word.
Fat Joe
Oh, see you back in the hood. You're in front of the store. Bodega Cardi. And everybody came out there and went crazy. And I ain't talking about the twerking I'm just saying. The community. Yeah, right. So I understood when you was like, yo, I used to walk up and down this block. They didn't know who I was. Now I come back, what was that like?
Cardi B
I mean, I always used to get in trouble around there. Like, those are. I lived in 157 in Broadway for a minute. And then like, I have family in Amsterdam. So it's like, all right, cool. Like, this could have been somewhere like Manhattan or like Harlem or Soho, but it does. It. It feels different when it's like, damn. These are the blocks that used to be like, all right, all right. We outside nothing.
Fat Joe
And I like, was too. Ain't nothing. Like Washington Night.
Cardi B
Ain't nothing. You had a store there?
Fat Joe
I do. 158 from Broadway.
Cardi B
Yeah. You had a. You have. You. Okay. You still have your store there then?
Fat Joe
I got Dyckman 207.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Fat Joe
So you know, that's that. You know, my uncle used to own all the number spots out there many, many years ago. So I started out there. The reason why I opened my store there was my father, rest in peace. He got fired from his job. It was like Christmas time. And we went down to 23rd Street. He bought a bunch of toys, like $2,000 worth of toys. Little cop, motorcycles, baseball bats. And for some reason, we went right to 158 in Broadway and we started selling that shit for double. That's where I learned how to hustle.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Fat Joe
So when I figured out I wanted a store, I said, let me not go to where. Let me go to the spot where I learned how to be an entrepreneur. So. And my father's. My godfather's also a Dominicano, Jose de Nosa. So I was up and down Washington Ice too much. What I hate is the beet salad.
Cardi B
I hate. I don't like potatoes, yo. They used to fucking like.
Fat Joe
I damn near got beat up to eat that shit.
Cardi B
I don't like that shit. But I love Washington Heights. And it's like a hood that people don't really. They will talk about Dyke may know Harlem. They don't really talk about Wash Heights. But it's. It's lit to me.
Fat Joe
It's the city that doesn't sleep.
Cardi B
Yeah.
Fat Joe
When they say New York is the city, you get a fucking haircut at 4.
Cardi B
Yeah, the Heights don't sleep.
Jada
You can get an outfit on New Year's after the ball dropped in Washington.
Fat Joe
Night, you get yourself a poppy poodle fit, right? I'm all fucking you with some shit right quick. Be shiny like a motherfucker.
Cardi B
My dad love them. Fits to this day, honey.
Fat Joe
He still rocked them.
Cardi B
He still rocked that money, you know.
Fat Joe
I said, you know, we gonna do a. A series about my life, you know what I'm saying, growing up. And I said, yo, we cannot have this series without the. Whenever I go see papi, that gotta be in the background. I mean, I've been to so many.
Cardi B
Y' all think you want to be Dominican?
Fat Joe
No, I love my godfather's Dominican. I love Dominicans. Anthony Santos. I go back with El Cuco. Tonio Rosario Omega was my man. Yeah, he's still my man.
Cardi B
I love him.
Fat Joe
He'd be like, yo, Goldo, he always hits me up. But this dude, he would come to my studio every night in Miami. Lamborghini. Oh, man, he was the first. He was the first biggest. I don't want to say definitely Dominican. Almost the biggest reggae tone. I don't know how to explain it to you. He was the first. Selling out Madison Square Garden, all that shit. So he was living in Miami. He would pull up everyday studio for no reason. Lamborghini, Ferrari. Then he showed me a video, and it was a Michael Jackson. I told you that shit. Michael Jackson was flying in the air over a stadium. They got a video. Michael Jackson had a backpack. Throw it up. Throw the flags. See if I'm fucking around. See if I'm fucking around. Just think I be capping y'. All. Don't listen to him. Listen. He showed me that. He said, yo, go. I'm about to fly into the stadium. That's my word.
Jada
He was looking at it, so he could.
Fat Joe
He was looking at Michael Jackson. He said he gonna go to Santo Domingo, fly into the fucking stadium. I was like, yo, this he's bugged out. But then, you know, they deported him back to Santo Domingo. You ever see that video with him in jail? Like, they put him in jail. That nigga, him walking through the jail. Omega. Oh, my God, it was like the Warriors. This dude was in the. He's the biggest rapper. He's just the biggest Dominican rapper of all time. Walking through the chair. Jewels on. And they got flashes. This guy's in jail. People buying sneakers so much. They had one girl over there, allegedly. You heard that story, right? There was one girl that was still supposed to be locked up, but she's in the beach every weekend. And they got pictures of her in the fucking beach, but she's locked up. So think you in Rikers Island. They let you out Friday, Saturday, Sunday, she in the beach. Fly Shit going back. You ever heard of that story?
Cardi B
I. I never heard. I don't know. Because I know people that got locked up in Dr. And they're very like, get me the fuck out of here. And it's like, I try to help somebody get out of jail.
Jada
Well, you go there and say, let them out. And they gonna let them out.
Cardi B
If you go there, they might make it hard. The person was like, don't even say.
Fat Joe
You just try to make some moves.
Cardi B
Just make some moves. And it was kind of damn, you.
Fat Joe
Know, jail ain't cool. You know, jail ain't cool, no way. But I. I've seen the Dominican jail. They got flat screens.
Jada
They took my. They buy sneakers, food in an iPad. To the jail.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah, what's that?
Jada
You can't go to Rikers right now. See, you can bring somebody a plate in the iPad.
Cardi B
You know.
Fat Joe
Crazy.
Cardi B
I've seen people now in Rikers have phones. It wasn't like that, like eight years ago.
Fat Joe
They got phones. No, no, no. They got. They got phones. Like everybody got a phone.
Cardi B
It wasn't like that.
Jada
25. I got a boy, 4,000 or something.
Fat Joe
Yo, it's not like that boy in the feds.
Jada
How much is it?
Fat Joe
You definitely know, you know, 2500. This be watching the fights with lobster. Some rock bottles. All, yo, FaceTime. Yo, I'm with you. He called on my birthday, right? We throw the party every year. He's like, yo, I'm with you, yo. Yo, let me see Mary J Y. Like, yo, ain't this thing any in jail? Yes, yes. Like, I mean, like, it's so living in there.
Cardi B
Shit has changed.
Fat Joe
Well, you ain't getting no girls in there. That's the biggest problem.
Cardi B
Yeah, that's the biggest problem.
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Fat Joe
And so Cardi, when does this album drop?
Cardi B
It drops on Friday.
Jada
This Friday. What's the Friday for the people at 19? September 19th.
Fat Joe
A lot of girls make sure she.
Jada
Put in that pain for y' all to cop the album. That pain album will be out already. Album is in stores right now. By the time you see this, the album is out. Make sure you get this shit.
Fat Joe
Who's on your who's on your Mount Rushmore? Female MCs.
Cardi B
I grew up listening to people. Don't really people be on the esme writing Remy. I grew up listening to Remy a lot. I like Trina a lot. I always say that. I listen to Trina a lot. I used to listen to Kai a lot. Lil Kim a lot. I used to listen to all of them.
Fat Joe
Who's Kai? Kai Kazi.
Jada
Neck and mouth sack.
Fat Joe
My neck, my back.
Cardi B
Yeah, she. She got some cool records, though.
Fat Joe
She did me dirty one. She did us all dirty one time. Like how the the girls my neck, my back. We hanging out in the hotel and she called the cops on us. Like, yo, the making too much noise. They like, yo, the girl there my neck, my back, my neck and my back me like how the fuck my neck and my back.
Jada
You should know she comes. She in the comments alleged she could.
Fat Joe
Do whatever she wants. Allegedly she called the cops on us. Well, we was in Phoenix, Arizona, B Fab, all of us talking in the hallway and they was like, yo, the girl right there, allegedly, you know, she called a cops at the my neck, my back. She throws pots on us.
Cardi B
I don't say that because that be roasting. She could roast that could roast. She rose like a. Like a. Yeah.
Jada
I love you.
Fat Joe
Next.
Cardi B
You love her because she could roll.
Fat Joe
Love you, Kai. I don't want no smoke. I'm definitely not arguing no smoke. I'm not arguing with no female on Instagram and like that. Just not one. You know how many times I got beat up by girls? Like, really beat up by girls. All the knocking, like, punching me in my face and up. Not the girls. I'm not hitting the girls. God, not at all.
Jada
Never.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I had girls punch me out and was running around the projects talking about, yo, I'm Joe. I punched him in his face. This you want me to do. All I could do is run away, you know, so, Kai, I don't want no smoke with you.
Cardi B
Did you deserve it?
Fat Joe
Of course.
Cardi B
I was terrible because you look like you used to roast rose.
Fat Joe
I did everything bad you could do in the history of mankind. Like we, you know, we used to play spades, right? You played spades, we used to play spades. And if you lost, you almost took orders like, they want Chef Boyardee and ice cream. You gotta go to the bodega and steal that shit. Like the L was. Whoever lost gotta go get the lunch. Chef Boyardee fucking ice cream and niggas is real specific with what they want. Potato chip, salt and vinegar. This. You gotta go in there and you gotta steal that shit. Now, you know, Poppycat, you stealing in the store, you coming out there with some stuff. Fucking speed dots out that bitch. But, yeah, we did every type of ghetto shit you could ever think of in the history of me. I'm through with ghetto shit. I'm like, I'm done. I did everything, you know, I had the girlfriends argue in front of the building for 10 hours. Every type of ghetto shit you could think of in the history of mankind, that ain't ghetto shit. That's cool. That's cool. But every kind of stereotype, that was me, you know what I mean? I worked hard on myself, you know what I'm saying? To be respectful and do things right and try to be a good example for our community and shit like that. But every type of ghetto shit you ever thought of, I did it.
Jada
How important is it? I see you always, you try to help up and coming artists.
Fat Joe
You.
Jada
You do a lot of stuff for people want to come. How important is that? To give back? Not too much because, you know, they take advantage from where we from. But yeah, how important is it to try to help those that need help?
Cardi B
I mean, I don't. I Don't really see it like that, but sometimes, like, when I feel like people are getting, like, picked on and like that, or like you getting that little hate train, I like to throw you a little advice from here on here and then. But that's just how I am. I don't know. Maybe I'm motherly. Maybe. Maybe that's why God blessed me so much. Because sometimes I have a good heart, but sometimes I have a good heart. But if, like, if I don't like.
Jada
You, heart could get ugly.
Cardi B
I want you to die, die, die. You.
Fat Joe
You want to beat the brakes off him. Like.
Cardi B
Like, if I can, I'll probably be in jail right now. But I. I got sacrifice. I got kids.
Jada
Yeah. We need you here for the babies.
Fat Joe
Baby, you did me a favor when we did the song together.
Cardi B
Oh, yeah, that was fun.
Fat Joe
Me, you and I know this my last gold plat.
Cardi B
And now I understand more. I'll talk to you later about that. But now I understand more of the meaning of the music video. The beginning.
Fat Joe
Oh, you get.
Cardi B
I'm around. I'm.
Fat Joe
I'm there now, Chango, that's crazy.
Cardi B
That's you.
Fat Joe
You ain't understand that.
Cardi B
At the beginning, I wasn't really there. Now I'm there.
Fat Joe
Yeah, they say that's my me, but that's not me. What? I just did that as a tribute because the sample we used was. They shit. That's like. They holy. Yeah, that's like, if you took. We wish you a merry Christmas we wish you a merry Christmas. Like, that sample we took is they shit.
Cardi B
They shit.
Fat Joe
So they be like, yo, no way you taking our shit and you ain't paying homage. But, yeah, it was. Thank you for that, man. You know, that was a great time. I like that song, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Jada, what's up?
Jada
That was a nice one. Lord, I like that song, too.
Fat Joe
Nah, we did it big. So you got the store going well, we ever see you, like, we seen Bad Bunny. We seen them in a lot of movies. Have you ever touched the movies or thought about the movies?
Cardi B
Yes, but I really gotta. I really gotta, like, not be doing nothing. Like, I really can't be in that ain't happening. That shit takes a lot of your time, and it's really fucking.
Fat Joe
And you a worker. You're a worker.
Jada
You said it's boring acting.
Fat Joe
Oh, yeah.
Cardi B
Yes. Waking at a certain time, and then it's like, you. You. It's like a cocking job, and then it's like, oh, this, this angle, that angle, this angle this.
Jada
Rocking the light stand over there.
Cardi B
Yes.
Fat Joe
Yo, bro, I did 30 days night school. 30 days with Kevin Hart, Tiffany Addish. They would wake us up every day at 6 in the morning, right? Make up my scene. Ain't to 10 at night.
Cardi B
Yes, I'm ready.
Fat Joe
You know how many beef, turkey, beef jerkies I done ate already now, ladies? And, yeah, I'm trying to stay up. 10 o', clock, I finally do my scene, they take me to the hotel, one o', clock, six in the morning, they do it again. And they be laughing at me too, like, yo, bro, this ain't the studio. Yeah, this ain't. Yo, wake up. This ain't the studio. This, this, that. They got joints. It's really hard work. Then they try that shit me and you was talking about in that meeting. Pay your dude.
Jada
Shit.
Fat Joe
They try to. Yo, you, bro. You know what kind of money we getting out here? You go in there, they try to pay you minimum wage. Yo, you pay your dues. Meanwhile, they promote the whole movie. Fat Joe, come see Fat Joe, come see Jadakiss. But they trying to minimum wage us. Talking about, yo, pay your dues. I'm like, pay my dues. Get the fuck out of here.
Cardi B
Acting is. I give it to them. That shit is a real clock in job.
Jada
Acting is crazy.
Cardi B
And I'm just a little bit fast. Maybe I got adhd, but it's like, I gotta now.
Fat Joe
You like, control. You like to run your own show. You come in, you got the people combing your hair and shit. They looking at all. That's not normal shit, by the way.
Cardi B
No, but seriously, you'll be out there all day and you're seeing this. Oh, God.
Fat Joe
You up in there, they like, yo, you gotta pay your dude this. I'm overpaying. Fat Joe, who been rapping for 30 years, is completely over paying his dues.
Jada
I was on the TV show Queen. They made me jump in the mud and made me jump in the rain.
Fat Joe
Trying to get out of Yonkers bad.
Jada
That shit hurt me. I wanted to quit. I went to him, said, I don't think this is for me, lady. Jenna, you got it. Had to have a rest, a fight in the mud and rain. And I ain't Bruce Willis and nothing. I want to say a few lines and go home. They made me tussle with the mud and rain.
Fat Joe
Well, you know, through the movie, that's where I picked up my beard at. Remember I had a gold teeth forever. And then the movie, they Made me wear a beard. Like, people ain't gonna know who Fat Joe is. And. And then I was like, oh. I like, nah, the beard is legendary right now. That's not.
Jada
Did they gave you a fake one in the movie?
Fat Joe
Huh?
Jada
In the movie?
Fat Joe
Yeah, they gave me a fake one. They glued my shit every day. They glued your face and then they put.
Jada
Did you ever go out after with the beard?
Fat Joe
No, I'm not.
Jada
I should have went to the club.
Fat Joe
I seen jail and character.
Jada
Do you like football? Do you understand it?
Cardi B
I learned to understand it. I learned to understand it. I have to. I have to.
Jada
I love that. I love that.
Cardi B
I have to. You know I'm a baseball player.
Jada
No doubt.
Fat Joe
Yeah. But I knew it was real when I seen you walking on the football field and all that and the practices and all that. All his mans had to be like, damn, boy, she up in the spot like, yo, this might be real. You know what it is to be a star football player? Take your girl up on the field and practice. No, it mean, this is serious. It mean, take this shit serious. Facts. And Cardi B said, oh, no, I got this. He ain't going to nowhere.
Cardi B
Dating to a ball player is very serious, too. It changes you around. They got some real. Yo, you know us rappers, we gotta be very grateful. We get our shit real easy. We can't. We practically could do whatever the fuck we want to do. They are military militant. Time. Wake up at a certain time. Be in the bed at a certain time. Get everything.
Fat Joe
Get three beans and asparagus.
Cardi B
That's the easy part.
Fat Joe
Some motherfuckers don't want nothing.
Cardi B
No, I'm telling you, that's the easy part.
Fat Joe
That shit is military. Your body is your weapon, your everything. So like, even, like, you can't cheat. No, I mean, if you a boxer, if you cheat, we know, we know. You don't got the breath. You ain't got the dish. You cheated your tryout. If you're a football player and you don't this and this and that, you cheating. You can't cheat. You gotta be dedicated to that. That's they shit.
Cardi B
Yeah, you can't miss nothing.
Fat Joe
Obviously, football players ain't like boxers that they can't have sex before a game.
Cardi B
Oh, no, I'm. Clearly. I'm dead as fucked. Like, there. You like, clearly.
Fat Joe
It's all good. You ain't taking away the energy. You know how they say motherfuckers on boxing can't have no sex? Luckily, obviously, the football guys is supposed to be hip.
Jada
He's making an adult swim.
Cardi B
He. He's the responsible one. He act like we on Twitch and we can curse. They know what the going on.
Fat Joe
You know, I gotta thank him because whenever I. I did this podcast without him yesterday, and I went crazy and I was like, damn, where is my man when I need him to say, chill, relax. Cause he's the calm.
Cardi B
We'll get canceled, honey.
Fat Joe
Yes. He's like. He's like, chill, relax. Yesterday, I'm up in the years, somebody was like, yo, nigga, you know, they came with, you know, this. I'm like, I walk out of there my own. The crazy guy, the Feitos, we call him the Hunters.
Jada
Miss me.
Fat Joe
They walked out with me like, yo.
Jada
God, I should have told me. I only came this to be referee.
Cardi B
For you, what you was doing yesterday.
Fat Joe
We did a show yesterday.
Jada
We did a show yesterday.
Fat Joe
Neo, it was great.
Cardi B
He's living his life, honey. He got three hoes.
Fat Joe
Four.
Cardi B
Four.
Fat Joe
Four. Guess what? There's a such thing. I asked him. There's a Alaskan king bed, right?
Jada
What's the called Alaskan king, man?
Fat Joe
It's Alaska. He got a couple of them. He sleep with four talking to us.
Jada
He got it.
Fat Joe
Listen, that man gotta fit five people. Him, four chicks in the. In, in. In the bed. That's a different kind of bag.
Cardi B
But what makes you go from being married to. What makes you go from being married to having, like, four girlfriends?
Fat Joe
Well, I'mma tell you the answer since.
Cardi B
Yeah, guys.
Fat Joe
No, no, no, no. Not we. Not guys. We don't got four wives.
Jada
I can't answer that.
Fat Joe
No, I'm gonna tell you.
Jada
I can't answer.
Fat Joe
I'm gonna tell you what the man told me.
Jada
Okay, That's a good answer.
Fat Joe
And it was a good answer. He said, I was tired of hurting women. I was tired of.
Jada
Did he get a lot of hurt.
Fat Joe
He said, cheating on them and stuff like that to where I was like, fucking it. I'm gonna let y' all know I.
Jada
Need four y' all with it, selling the party. Said, I'm just gonna keep everything. A hundred if the dress looks horrible. Yeah, everything.
Fat Joe
He said he's not lying no more. Yeah, and he needs four, you know. You know, Got put in a lot of work, boy.
Cardi B
I don't think it's that easy. I don't care what he say. They ain't that easy.
Fat Joe
Four women?
Jada
Yeah. How could it, bro?
Fat Joe
I got a daughter and a wife and I'm dizzy, bro.
Cardi B
What are you talking about?
Fat Joe
Four women.
Cardi B
He make it sound like it's easy. That is not easy.
Fat Joe
My brother Fritz play be like, yo, I pray for you. I see. He said, you're. You're going to heaven.
Cardi B
How many times can you. You bust in a day? Imagine if all want to get that day.
Fat Joe
He gotta put it. Could you. Could you. Ow are we going back?
Cardi B
And so then it's like, could he.
Fat Joe
Technically put in that work on a fork?
Jada
What about the album?
Fat Joe
I' ma feel the dance class four also. You're gonna feel away pregnant women on set. No.
Cardi B
Cause he making it sound easy. And I know it's not easy. I know it's not easy. If you got four bitches, right? You could buzz like twice a day, probably.
Fat Joe
Oh, God.
Cardi B
If. If it's four and it's a bad heart, I want to get fucked. But you fuck this bitch. And now you care enough for me. Not. Not one. Not one of the bitches is tight. So you ain't telling me it's not easy. You not telling me it's easy. That shit is not easy. For real dead ass.
Fat Joe
Yo, but listen what I'm saying.
Cardi B
I pissed for a certain type of way. You just fuck this bitch in the morning now. You cannot put me in the afternoon. And I need Bigg now. But you can't fuck me because you fucked this bitch earlier. That shit makes you want to argue. That will get me tight and shit.
Fat Joe
So you as a female saying, don't go for that. It's got to be turbulence. Then they have to be turbulence. What want me to do, man? Fucking Cardi B. She's saying some real shit. We want to know what the women think. The women want to know what we think. We want to know what they think.
Jada
Would have been a good one.
Fat Joe
It would have been. She got. You got this guy crying. Motherfuckers crying. He like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But that's real shit. I didn't get into that right like that.
Cardi B
I know they be arguing. I want to know now. I want to know.
Fat Joe
Can we hear a snippet of a song?
Cardi B
Y' all want to hear a song?
Fat Joe
Your song?
Jada
Hear, hear.
Fat Joe
No.
Cardi B
What's your wave? Y' all want me to do?
Fat Joe
We want the wave.
Cardi B
We gonna keep it fun.
Fat Joe
Or they got baddie.
Jada
Make sure y' all get the album. All platforms. You every way you could get the cock holy.
Fat Joe
Get it.
Cardi B
You got the first bodega. I mean, you got the first La Cali. That's my Spanish version. And I first said it in your record. And everybody knows when I go Spanish, they call Me Lakali. So.
Fat Joe
Well, let me tell you. Let me tell you something, Manuel. When we. When I played him, your. He was like, yo, she trying to go crazy. She said it meant too much to.
Cardi B
Him when he heard he became a personality like a. That's when I go Spanish, yo.
Fat Joe
Let me tell you something. This right here, this ain't safe. This like, we got to bring Marina back. I got to have a mor. Some mangu, yo, with some queso. You know what I'm saying? This too Dominican right here. This crazy, though. Karl Anthony Towns was here the other day. Dominicano? Yes, from the Knicks.
Cardi B
I was going hard for his ass. I was running hard.
Fat Joe
We made him dance too, right? We played the mamelo maneo. Maneo maneo. He got up and started doing him too. He started dancing. Listen, the thing about Dominican people is that they love to have a good time. They love to feed you. They love. I love Santo Domingo, bro. There's no question about it. And so we looking excited to this album. This album is coming out before we drop this, right? So we able to play the music.
Jada
Album is out right now.
Fat Joe
Right now, yo, the album is crazy. The album is out.
Jada
Talk about.
Fat Joe
Cardi broke a record. Cardi broke a record. This shit is crazy. Everybody. Everybody out there see the hard work.
Jada
She put in on the promo.
Fat Joe
It's too real. She couldn't tell you something. She's you as an example.
Jada
She went hooked.
Fat Joe
I use you as an example, right? Because before you made great music, before you ever dropped a song, people loved you. They loved your personality. They love your outspokenness, your realness. And then you dropped the hit, which is like, we fucking love her already. And now we support your music. There's some people that's talented as shit that just. That people don't gravitate to you don't have that problem. You're a phenomenon where people just love you and they just sit there with every last word you say and they gonna support you 10 million percent because you the real deal. And so I have no doubts on you. I never had doubts ever, ever, ever. You're a perfectionist. That's why it took so long to drop this album. She threw some shit out there, bro. That shit crazy, man. So we proud of you.
Jada
This ain't that. That ain't this crap.
Fat Joe
Goddamn. Another legendary.
Cardi B
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Episode: Joe and Jada – Cardi B on 'Am I The Drama?' album, new pregnancy, Stefon Diggs & viral lawsuit
Date: September 29, 2025
Featured Guest: Cardi B
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jada
Summary Prepared By: [Your Name]
This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd features a lively, candid, and often hilarious sit-down with Cardi B, joined by co-hosts Fat Joe and Jada. The conversation centers on Cardi's highly anticipated new album 'Am I The Drama?', her fourth pregnancy, her experience growing up in the Bronx, the viral lawsuit she recently faced, her relationship with Stefon Diggs, and the cultural and personal forces shaping her career. The tone is unfiltered, energetic, and deeply rooted in Bronx pride, authenticity, and humor, with plenty of real talk.
| Time | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 04:05 | Bronx pride, struggle to “make it out” | | 05:14 | Cardi’s gritty upbringing stories | | 07:58 | Relationship life & pregnancy announcement | | 09:35 | Stefon Diggs shout, privacy in the public eye | | 10:13 | Frivolous lawsuits and their impacts | | 15:25 | Cardi B explains her motivation and album process | | 16:56 | Album promotion, old-school vs. TikTok strategies | | 20:41 | Album content and Cardi’s dual personalities | | 37:13 | Cardi’s female MC Mount Rushmore | | 40:58 | Cardi B on uplifting others in the industry | | 44:43 | The grind and reality of acting | | 50:42 | Polyamory debate – “I’m dizzy, bro.” | | 56:33 | Cardi B’s authenticity and rapport with fans |
This episode is a celebration of Cardi B’s journey—from the Bronx to global stardom—punctuated by her signature humor, candor, and willingness to keep things real. The blend of gritty stories, practical wisdom about industry obstacles, and her infectious energy makes this a memorable episode. Fat Joe and Jada create space for Cardi to shine while sharing their own experiences and jokes, making the conversation as entertaining as it is insightful.
Recommended For:
Anyone interested in unfiltered conversations about hip-hop, fame, personal growth, industry pitfalls, or just some hilarious, authentic Bronx storytelling.
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