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Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at ucla and I want to tell you about my new podcast called the Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week we're breaking down the world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. So check out the mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'? All? It's your boy, Kev onstage. I wanna tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who've had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on, what is their heartbreak and what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Check out not my best moment with me, Kev OnStage on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. On an all new episode of iHeartRadio's Las Culturistas, Emmy, Golden Globe and Tony Award winner Sarah Paulson spills on red carpet hacks. We saw these pictures and we were like, what is the story with this? She gets real about the inspiration behind her roles. Oh, no. There is no end to how people will behave. And she puts hosts Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang on notice. I don't think so, honey. I feel very, very tr. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Las culturistas and listen to the full podcast now. You don't remember when I first met you and we have been hearing showbiz and ag like Andre the Giant, and we was at some video shoot and I thought you was Andre the Giant. Cause, you know, like, n didn't have video. They didn't have video. You know, n didn't know. So I was like, yo, makes sense. Yo, that's Andre the Giant. I went up to you and said you was like, nah, pas, I'm Fat Joe. I was like, oh, What up, y'? All? This is Joe crack the dawn. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, Every show iconic. We haven't let you down yet. Today's guest. When you think of hip hop royalty, when you think of somebody left their phone on, come out. When you think of bars, when you think of camaraderie, when you think of loyalty, when you think of standing 10 toes down as artists to fight for your rights, Even when it's not looking good, but just that, you just stay down. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for De La Song. What's up, nigga? Words. First of all, brothers. Wow. Peace. Believe it or not, you know where we from, we pay in case I lose my section 8, Lose my sex and Nate. I need something to fall back, you know what I mean? That's a big deal. You guys out there don't know. Soon you'll know. And those are dead stock, too, you know? I mean, you ain't gotta worry. And they know old age. And then those came straight out the box. There you go. DS now, they like a rim brick now. Them shits is legendary right now. Please run our loves. Go. Hang back. What I was gonna say is thank you. Believe it or not, we like to call this show the rookies of the year. Whatever. We try to play humble to everybody before us, but God damn it, we on fire. And names keep flying through, and I don't know, it's not enough time. It's whatever. All I know is the second De La Soul was mentioned, the whole room was like, yes. Hell, yeah. It was not even a discussion. It was like, oh, no, we gotta have it and that's not really happening for everybody. You guys. I don't even know how to describe it to you. You know, you guys are probably not really older than me, but you came in the game before me. So I look up to you guys. Like, you guys paved the way for all of us. Like, y' all beyond royalty. You're actually the first nice guys I ever listened to. Everybody else was nwa, killer shit, fuck your moms. This, this, that. I remember selling drug potholes in my lawn. And I'm a buddy, buddy, buddy. And so it's an honor for us to have you guys, because that's what this show is all about. You know the reason why we got involved with the podcast? Because we was like, people ain't telling this shit, right? And then you got invalid people trying to make valid critique. No, no. Like, who are you, like, trying to critique anyway? I'm not going to do that. Listen, De La Soul, bro, it's a fucking honor and a half to have you guys on the show, man. We truly appreciate you. Truly. We love y'. All. I know. We love you, too. But I've just gotta. I gotta explain it to you on a. There's different explanations. You guys are on a different level of explanation. I'mma go somewhere. It's sad, but I'mma go. You know our brother passed away, right? So we all know. We all know that when we die, there should be an outpour of love, right? I tell my wife all the time, I said, yo, what? Fat Joe died. Get Brett. Because anybody who ain't never big him up, they're finally going to be like, I'm a big him up. Like, let's say the truth about this guy, right? But your man died, and the outpouring was legendary. And did it surprise you that he got so much of an outpouring? Because even me, my shit was, like, teared up. My message, like, I watched people who don't big people up big, him and y' all up on another level. Was that surprising? For me, I don't. I wouldn't say it was surprising. I mean, we've been blessed from the beginning to travel all over the world. So we know, and we're humble enough to see the effect we've had gracefully enough on people. It was just a blessing. And I feel like a lot of people, they were rooting for us. Like, they was like, yo, man, y' all was going through your situation with that, the label and all that. And now y' all got your. Your masters and da, da, da, da. And Right before the finish line, we lost them. So I just think, like, it was that everyone was already in with us from that context. And so it was like, damn, y' all close for the underdog, kind of. Yeah. It was definitely overwhelming to see the. Everyone we came up with, everyone that just in the industry come out, and it had that same effect. You know what I mean? It wasn't fake. He had one of the most outpouring of sincere love that I had seen in the industry myself. You know, you guys of respect is that, you know, when you, a man of respect, when you lived on this earth, traveled everywhere you went, and you guys are just men of respect. You are who you are. You trailblazers, you pioneers, you make whatever music you wanna make. And then finally there's a moment that unfortunately is it. It's a sad moment, but it's a time where you go, yo, let's. Let's say what we think about these guys. Let's let em know. That's how I felt from the outside. And I know you was dealing with your brother. You know, that's blurry. You know what I'm saying? Shaun, Cee here, Big up. Sean Cee. He was. When Big Pun passed, and that whole shit was a blur, you know, no matter who's calling you or showing you love or whatever you like, this is crazy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that was beautiful to see. Jada, you got your. I'm kicking it, man. Cavin sky new album, no Doubt, brother. Executive produced by Pete Rock, coming out on Mass Appeal, Part of the Legend series. Some incredible features on there. What was it like just making this album? Especially, you know, with Dave not being here? You know, how did it feel? What was the mistake? How was it, you know, for dudes that don't understand making the album, show them a little bit of the process and, you know, the feelings of recording this project. Well, it's like some of the music we had, because originally we were supposed to do this album called Premium Soul on the Rocks with Pete and Preen. Oh. So it just kind of, for whatever reason, just never really got off. This never, never happened. But we had stuff in the can. Some from Pete, a little bit from Preem, Peter from Mass Appeal and Nas. They came to us and it was like, yo, man, we want y' all to be a part of this Legend series. We would love for y' all to do this, but y' all gotta have this album ready by this year. So I was like, yo, let's. Let's you know, let's do it. So we saw what we already had kind of in the can. The thing is that we had stuff from Dave, from other producers that we worked with. Super Dave west, we had some from Jake one who did Rock Cocaine Flow on the Grind Date album, stuff like that. So we felt like, you know what, we can't just allow it to just be Pete and Preem. We need to add in so we don't have to now take Dave's verses off and add it to some other made up shit. We didn't want to do that. It's the hard shit. Yeah. Yeah, man. But Dave, he was with me. Like, seriously, when we was making this shit, he was right there with me, you know, and I heard him with me. Like, Dave would always be like, yo, Merce, man, what you wrote is dope. But you could put more of that bullshit on it. Like he would say, like, you know, put that personality. And I kept him in my ear like that when I'm in the booth. And I was like, I can hit it harder. And Sean Cee would be there and then he would be like, nah, that was a good take. I'm like, nah, nah, I could do it better. Cause I just heard Dave telling me, nah, do it, do it again and stuff like that. And I mean, like, just picking choices for different styles and for the album. Like, I felt like Dave was right there while I was writing fucking. You know what I'm saying? And I mean, usually when he was physically here, we did a lot of that where me and Dave didn't have to be together. Like, we just so in sync. And Dave was just such an ill n where, like, I would come in and be saying my rhyme and he'll just put himself under the pressure listening to me in the booth and he'll just bang his shit out right there and then connect shit. So the process was just like, believe it or not, for me, it wasn't hard. It was just like, I need. I just knew that I was on one. Like, I had to prove, like, we can do this shit. We're gonna do it for Dave, you know, and get it right, you know? So that's how it was for me. Like, I don't know if n seen that Outsiders movie back in the day where the Matt Dillon n like, yo, we gotta do this for Johnny. I was like that for Dave. Like, we gotta do this shit for Dave. So I was just on it like that. Nah, concur, man. For real. Like, it needed to have its presence, you know, I Think the record is therapeutic for everybody. It's closure for a lot of us. And you can feel them throughout the record. The whole Cabin of the sky idea to me is like, he working on the record from up there, you know? Yeah. Is there a name for, like, these albums when somebody passes, how you say, a pot posture. Right. I hate when they chop up. They get a freestyle from a well. You said to do somebody. I added to the ones he had instead of this. That way they be jinx. All positive people. Like, I'm gonna just keep it real. I never heard Biggie say a whack verse in my life. And they started playing with them. They had, like, Biggie Christmas Eve. Then. Niggas was just pulling out from victory verses and shit. They was just pimping that on another level where I was just like, yo, this ain't like Big wouldn't have did this, wouldn't have did that, you know? And it's hard because, you know, the fans, they want anything. They want to hear this. They want to hear what you got. Yeah, stash. I mean, somebody who did it great. Primo and Guru, their last album, they had dropped together the Gangstar, that shit. I felt like Guru was here. I don't know if it came out five years ago or something. Yeah, Question. We got clips. We got Cardi B. She definitely put some shit out the park. Yeah. And we got more deep. I listen more deep every day. Yeah, that Mob Deep album is. And it was just like, really? That. Yeah, yeah. You know, it get me going. But yeah. Yeah, that's a good example of. It's quality for us. Always over quantity, you know, that's been y' all your whole life. We tried our best trust, you know what I'm saying? We've always felt like, yo, we could marry ourselves to the right track. That's how me and Dave always approached music. Right circumstance. We could do it, like, I mean, crazy enough. We never even got to do one with y'. All. But we was always like, yo, we gotta do joints. We gotta do one with the Locks. Like. Cause we would've, like, married the right shit, you know, not just to do it. And then you be like, yo, I got a song. The Locks. But the shit is bullshit. That ain't us. Like, when you have it in, like, you guys don't work. Shaka Khan. The thing I love most about y' all and something I tried to be throughout my whole career. First of all, y' all got a lot of hits. Thank you. Don't get catalog out of this World catalog is out of this world. Number two is. None of them sound the same. I love that. You know, I don't like to duplicate or recycle. His Somebody dead ass told me one time in the studio, like, I should do lean forward, lean back. Yo, I'm telling you, this guy is a flag nigga. Whoa. I'm trying to tell you. This is what they do. They run with the same sauce. This is what they do. They run with the same sauce. They run with the same energy. Trying to duplicate the last hit. That's not stuck in your face. No, that's stuck in your face. Why Part two, How you see when. When did it. Yes. So leave it. Yes. When I go through your catalog, nothing sound the same. I love that. As a creative. I love that. Cause I'm like, all right. They not chasing the same shit. Same. Same style. I gotta take it back to native tongue, right? Yeah. How did that come about? Hell of an era. No, you ran the era. There's just no way around it, y'. All. Y' all was the most fire shit smoking with all of y'. All. Who exactly was in native tongue? Who came up with. Yo, we should all rock with each other. That's crucial to hip hop. Yeah. One day. Listen, right now, actually missing. It is missing one day. I rolled up on at Africa's crib. Africa was staying out at. What was that? Bay Ridge? Yeah. Shout out to the Jungle Brothers. Yeah, man. And Tip was already there. I was selling a lot of crack to the Jungle Brothers. But go ahead, go ahead. Come on. Nah, it's a family show, ok? Nah. Cause I remember me on the block listening to all that shit. You know, it was that time. So, yeah, I roll up to Half's crib. Tip was like, yo, ab, tell him what we was just talking about. I was like, what up? And he was like, yo, man, we got such a vibe together. Yo, when we make music, why don't we put our name on the one name and call it Native Tongues? And I was like, I'm with it. Like, that sounds crazy. Cause he was like, yeah, like, we too dope. We talk kind of like our language is the same. We like, we have this native kinship. And I was like, I'm with it. I was like, yo, I'll go back and tell my natives y' all go back to. And that's what it was like to tribe. Best thing that never happened. Yeah, like, I went to him. I was like. And Dave. And they was like, yo, we with it. So we all just connected. From that standpoint on, LA was already coming around. Latifah was just already coming around, getting signed with the Tommy Boy. She would just come hang out with us in Long island. And, like, she was like our sister and became like our. Our mother. Cause she was so maternal and she could throw joints. Like, she was just like. So, like, we was like, yo, LA gotta be down with this. And so that was it right there. Like. And then people just start getting added on. Moni came. Yeah. Africa was like, Moni. And it was like, never a question. It was like, Aph knows music. If Africa's saying, like, we gonna put Moni down, then she's down. No, Moni is simple. That's dead nice. I think she should have been bigger than she. Than she got. Like, Moni was dead nice. She was killing shit. Yeah, she definitely. I don't know what happened to where she should have come out with her own hits and projects and stuff like that. Cause we definitely, as fans, was waiting for Moni Love. You know the Jungle Brothers, man, that was. They even had the girl LA house. Yeah, man. You in my hut, man. That's what I always say. That's when we was doing in New York, we was doing track dates. You just run up to Aladdin Quarters, you do one song, you then jet up to, like, somewhere in Jersey, do another song, go up to the Bronx. You wasn't the only one doing that, brother. That was the gentleman circuit. New York City, Chick Chitlin circuit. There you go. I do Yonkers, I do White Plains, and I do the Fever in the Bronx. And I made 1200 that day. Wasn't paying. Yo, that's real, though. Why Flo Jo was number one. I was getting 500 a show. I was going Fayetteville, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia one day. Yeah, well, on it. Even when the was crazy now, yo, we made it through the Starvation L, right? No doubt. Because that was. I don't give a fuck how I seen. And I don't want to. I don't want to quote me, because I'm sure he's coming up here, but you know my idol, Cool J? I heard him one time. I don't know if it's true. This might be. You got a fact check? Don't do that. It might be a flag, but I heard him say he was doing, like, arenas at his prom for, like, 15,000. But he was the headliner of the whole, like, Madison Squeak. The money just wasn't there. No, it wasn't big like that. I mean, ticket sales was like $10. Yeah, like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Now you see the. The young boy NBA, he did a half a million fans. Them just pay you. You got to pay. Yeah, because you imma sneak into Monica and Brandy. I told him already, yo, I'm sneaking in this. I'm telling you, I'm sneaking in this. I told my wife, whoever's coming, I'm sneaking in. Yo, it's Fat Joe. Let me like, you see in the back door. I'm sneaking in. Yeah, I'm going in. I'm like, yo, sup? It's three of us. Like, I'm doing that. I don't even wanna play with people with the tickets and shit like that. It's must see. I gotta go to Brandi Monica. I'm sneaking in. I told my whole family, yo, look, follow me close. Cause I'm sneaking in. We don't actually have tickets. Nah, we're gonna sneak in. Nah, them tickets is real. I just got my wife, like, tickets to that show. And then she realized that she had double booked. Cause she gotta do something with my daughter and take her some place. And I'm like, yo, you gotta figure that out. Cause tickets is real. Like, you gotta go for that show. Don't sleep the ticket price in this red line into. It's like some red line. It's for certain people who can't go. That's why they make it a certain price. That's life. You go to a restaurant, you'll see no black and Spanish people in there. It's just the prices. Ah, crazy. Yeah, man. You look around, you be like this. You a clam. It's a hundred fifty. You're like, yo, ain't with this. I'm going down the block. Like, they ain't with it. I'm telling you. That's always been a gimmick. Maryland. Yeah, it's always Maryland. Yeah. No, but I'm telling you, that's how I get down. They out price you. So it'd be so much, it'd be so expensive that you be like, yo, fuck it. I'm going over here. You guys, man. Let me tell you something, man. I was so excited. I was like a kid on Christmas today coming over here. Cause I got De La Soul here, man. I remember looking at Video Music Box, seeing y' all in the classrooms, seeing y'. All. And I was just like, these guys are super legends. Q Tips, one of my best friends. Q Tip, I don't know if you know, right? Cause you know I ain't not gonna no, no. I'm just saying. Cause, you know, everybody got best friends that they don't know. No, everybody got best friends. You know, me and Tip, we got a serious. For all these years, people don't know. He might actually be my weirdest friend relationship. Cause Q, Tip don't fuck with nobody, bro. He fuck with Joe Crack. Yo, Joe, what's up? Yo, me and him, like, we really friends. Q. Tip is like, you know, you get him when you get him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He come out when he want to come out. You know, what's that relationship with y' all and Fife? Recipes. Fife, dawn, what was that like, you know, coming up in the game? Cause I feel like that was the same time coming up with Tribe. And we all was like, minded brothers, man. We loved each other even up to the very day. Even Fife, Patch, you know what I'm saying? Fife was coming out on the road with us. You know, he was our secret weapon. When we was doing certain shows like Rock the Bells or whatever. We got Fife or we got biz. You know what I mean? So, you know, I mean, Biz, we was raised together in this shit, man. You know, we stuck together, you know, good and bad. That's our brother. Music. No music. We family, man. Me and this dude and Tip, like, we be in a chat every day. Usually talking, like, now, like, we would send records. We'll be having battles in the chat. Tip would set it off. I'll throw something like, ah, nigga, you don't remember this one? And Mace be sitting on the sidelines. All of a sudden, he'd jump in like, we've. We bug out all the time. That's. That's Q. Tip got a real studio in his house. Yes, we do. Battery studio. Billion dollar battery studio. He has battery studio in his house. He got. Not. No disrespect, not D block, not this. This has. No, no, I'm just saying. Listen. No, no, no. I'm not dissing your studio. What I'm saying is. Yo, Rich, listen. Yo, I'm not saying. I gotta admit, this show has been needed. This show has been needed. Have been needing. Yo, listen to what I'm saying. Listen, listen. Me and Lucha, I love y'. All. Worship y'. All. Don't do that. What I'm trying to say. So you say that, yo. Then y' all booty. He got the hit factory in his house, is what. Like, you might as well just sign in the schedule. Yeah, you go in that. You in the hair factory. He's not in the closet. Like he. Don't you go in his refrigerator and pull out a diet coat when you go downstairs, you in a real studio. Indeed. I can't believe that. I never seen nobody have that in their house. Nobody, Right? Not even like a Scotty Hendrix. Old Man Bubble Hill had a real studio. He had the real. Yeah, that was just houses from. He got off Eddie Murphy, where they did party all the time. That was a real story. I believe that. Anything with Swiss. He got the Batman hopping board. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Q tip those on that LL Cool J song with Ross. He's like, yo, what you got for me, Joe? I'm not trying to get you on. I did the song. Yeah, but he forced me to do it right there. Come on, Joe, talk that shit, man. Let's. I said, yo, first you asked me to come here some records. Now I'm. Now I gotta be on. You know, it's with my idol. But I mean, like, he put me on the spot, man. Shout out to now. That's how. That's our brother, man. He's. He's on the new album. He's on this joint we got called Day in the sun. So. Yeah, like, I want to talk about that. The features on the feature, Nas Black Thought comic. Killer Mike. So he's taking Killer Mike. What the. Yeah, though it's a crazy lineup. Yeah. Though it's really talking about bars. I came out with it. Yeah. If y' all pull out this metro. The Achilles of nice guys. Every one of them came out Black Thorn. Yep. Common. Common, yeah. Nas, NASA Spitting lately. No, no, no, no, no. What. What do you want me to say? Yeah, I'm sorry, dog. You gotta. You gotta get that one. You gotta get. No, no, guys, let me explain. Sandy, y'. All. Nobody's a bigger Nas fan than Fat Joe. Bill Matic, my favorite album ever. I've. I've actually credit him with most of my success from me studying him. But in this legend series, he found that flow where he just killing with the shit. With Big L, the shit, everything. He just killing. You know what I'm saying? Even them records that won the Grammy or whatever, it was still like a new Nas flow. It wasn't that. Yeah, he's just been like going crazy on these songs with this legend series right here. So you got all these features. I mean, nobody gave you a hard time. Everybody just came through. Nah, nah. You know, we've never had a problem with asking. We felt would be right for a certain track, you know, I mean, Cause we always had the mantra of, like, yo, all you could do is say is no. Like, say no. How could it be on to the next, you know what I'm saying? We've. We've done that with certain people. Like, yo, all right, David Byrne from Talking Heads, let's ask. All I do is say is no, and he said yes. It's like, all right, well, so that's how it goes. Would I say yes, you think Would say no? Yeah, and vice versa. Yeah, there's people as long as your people. Yeah, it's be those. Those you ask and they freeze. Like, you'd be like, yo, can you get an album? Them act like they turn a stone, like if you can't see them and shit. And it'll be like, all right, all right. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I chased Maxwell for about 10 albums. I finally gave up. He told me, yeah, 10 times. We never showed up. Yeah, he's the one guy never showed up. A Fat Joe. And I love him. I love Maxwell, but he's one of the guys who avoided me. But, you know, I used to have ever have to do that. Like, I mean, like, I wouldn't normally go to school. I diss people all the time, though. I diss people all the time for not coming through. No, it's just sometimes I don't want to do it. Like, sometimes, you know, I say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then turn around. I'm tired, man, this 40 degrees, the heat ain't really working. I ain't coming out the crib that no, yo, hey, yo, business was crazy like that. Business be like, yo, I'm right around the corner. I'm right. And then they could be in Maryland. Yo, yo, Pence. Yo, yo. Yeah, yo, let me say Bismarck E. Did my favorite hip hop song ever. My favorite hip hop song ever is the Vapors. And the story of my life, you know, I was a bum. Fucked up projects. They used to laugh at me. I used to tell them. Then I started coming around with the beam of the Benz, playing the Vapor Soul. I played I'm Surprised I'm Not Dead from being obnoxious. 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Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that. Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's Health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Yo, Joe, you. You don't remember when I first met you? And we have been hearing showbiz and ag like Andre the Giant, and we was at some. Some video shoot, and I thought you was Andre the Giant. Cause, you know, like, n didn't have video. They didn't have video, you know. N't know. So I was like, yo, makes sense. Yo, that's Andre the Giant. I went up to you saying you was like, n boss, I'm Fat Joe. I was like, oh, hey, ag's one of my lyrical heroes. But, like, didn't see ag. He was so slim. I was like, the don't look like a giant. You know, I used to. I used to stop ag. That's. That's hilarious. I used to stop AG all the time. And I used to force him to say this rhyme. He had this rhyme, Sally. So she sells down by the seashore. How much work in the woodchuck? Every time we pull up to a show and there's 10,000 people ready to go, say, Yo, Ag, tell me rhyme, tell me. I was just so fascinated. I couldn't believe that he even said this shit. Like, I used to. I used to, yo, shout out to ag, me and my brother, but you Thought I was Andre the John. How about Fat Man Scoop, to this day, thought I was somebody. And I never told him I wasn't the guy. Fat Man Scoop said that he saw me battle some guys. He died thinking you were somebody else? Yes. I'm sorry. Sorry, Scoot. I love you, Scoop. God. Yo, Flack, though, this Scoop, we love yo, that, man. You know how you just said you thought I was Andre the Giant? Fat Man? The Scoop had a story like that where he come up to me. Yeah, I seen you battle 10 guys. You had a bottle of Scope. And I be like, you like that shit was dope. I mean, to the day he died, he told me this story. It was not me. I think I told you that one time, Shaw. See, he always thought I was this guy that he met battling like, 10 guys with a bottle of. I guess his shit was like Listerine, spit it out like some shit. And he would be like, yo, man, that was the illest shit ever. And I ain't know how to tell him, yo, School, it ain't me. Like, I. Whoa. 30 years. Like, for 30 years, I ain't know how to tell him it wasn't me. That's the story you tell everyone. Why you standing right next to him? And you can't. You didn't. You can't do not. I can't do it. Yeah. Rest in peace, Fat Man School. We lost a lot of good ones. Yeah, man. And. And that's another thing. We coming of age. Not that we gotta die. You know, they say China making make you live 150 years. I don't want that. I do. You don't want that? You don't want to live 150. Everybody, you know gonna be dead. Not if they all get the shit. They can't get it. It's impossible for anybody, you know, that lived over 150. If everybody know to even go to jank, yo. Oh, I love y'. All. I'm watching my own show, Yo. I love y', all, dog. You know, we try to do this different. You know, we crazy, we fly. This is dope. And then he got the. His jokes. It's like, yo, you get it on your way home, yo, sometimes I go home. I watch. I said, yo, this thing could dissed me, man. I didn't even. I didn't even catch that. That's why he's top five, dead or alive. He's pretty as be saying, I don't catch it on the show. I watch. I said, oh, I gotta get Jada. I gotta get Him? This guy? Yeah, he's too witty. I can't pick up on the spot. Let's talk about this for a minute. Cause we all been through some shit with the label. I stayed down, formed that battle. I know it was discouraging at times. You ready to say, fuck this shit. We can't win for y' all to just stay firm and hold it out? What was that like for the. Because people were outside, they don't know how to scale this tip for us. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yo, it's wild. I mean, it's almost like. I really don't want to touch on it. Yeah, no, no, no. You got to. No, it's legal. We're not messing up, bringing anything. Science. This shows gems for the youth behind us to pick up on what we went through. It'll be a level of like, you young, someone gives you this opportunity. You never had anything, so you really don't know. Like, what they're giving you is like this little piece of bacon from a table that got fucking 7,000 pigs you can slaughter in half of your own. So when you start learning, all right, cool. You learn. And you. You. You. Hopefully you negotiate and you have people in your corner, and then. But then you then realize that the nigga who was negotiating for you, he's down with that nigga, maybe. That type of stuff, you start learning and standing and it's on a job. Training. Yeah. Like any other. Learning on a whim. Yeah. So as we learn it, you know. You know, throughout the process, I start to learn, like, everybody's cutting the deal. The deal is happening based on the value, not what we actually have. So everybody want this deal to close so they could get it to get they cut. Who the fuck you tell it? You get advised to do things that if you was advised a certain way, you might say, well, maybe I don't want to take the publishing deal. I may want to keep my publishing and y' all keep that money. The way they describe it to you. Yeah, the way they describe it to you. Like, you almost gotta take it. Or you're not gonna say no. You're just not aware of what's that. Long term, you know? Yeah. So once you start to grow and learn this whole. What this whole thing is all about, you have a lot more discernment. And then you start to catch these things. You read the contract, you learn more things. Here it is, Tommy boy. I mean, we was in an unprecedented situation where if a label folded, so did the bands, too. The group's Gone too. Yeah. We've been able to hold on and move on and do things and let alone do more partnerships. Why would I go back into an 89 deal? Why would he even present me a deal like that? How about it was already disrespectful present a deal like that? How about. But I give him grace because that's what he knew, that's what he learned. And that's what they tried to continue. Yeah. But you couldn't continue that with us. And I. I'm sorry. Yeah. I just want to say, like, yo, it's not even, like, so nefarious where it's like someone is trying to do wrong by you. Like, they actually think they're doing right by you. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, man. Like, you know, that's my nigga. I haven't. That's my nigga. He can come to my back door. But that's. I have a mentor. Felt like that. I have a mentor. Many years later. His name was rest in peace, J.R. reidinger. He was a billionaire. He was a billionaire. He passed away. Well, he always told me that everybody has to make money in order for you to be successful. Everybody got to make money. Not work for you, not be beneath you, not be this. Everybody should be a business partner in a way. And since he taught me that, I've had no headaches. Everybody's happy. You pull up to my store, the nigga driving a Benz truck with Rolex on, everybody's happy. And that's how you eliminate that. The problem is these guys, they take advantage of you. No, what they do is, look, we can't bite the hand that feeds us. We should always salute the person who helped change our lives. Now, if they still fucking you 10 years later, 15 years later. So basically, the way the game is, they grab you young, you feel, and they feel like they doing you a favor. Yeah. If you're successful, as you're getting a little bit older, you're starting to learn the business. Right. But don't get mad at me because I learned the business. No, but that's going to happen to everybody. Don't get mad at me because I learned my value. And so that's what's happening. I'm getting mad at. Still what I'm trying to explain on your side, you're learning the business, and they keep renegotiating after they making tons of money for you to get back to where it originally should have been. Fair. So you always behind. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then these guys, they Live in extravagant lifestyles. They are Malibu. They all. They know war on the water. They this and this and that, and they eating off of our pain. Yeah. Because our music is pain. So we. We out here telling our story, shit we went through, and they over here having a sweet life. You understand, and refuse to see that. Yo, maybe this is my number one guy. Maybe I should make it fair and even, like, I've never been like that. Fat Joe has never been like that. So, Fat Joe, if I have an artist recently, I had an artist maybe two, three years ago. Last artist I dealt with, right. Young lady, I might have spent a million and a half out my pocket because I still think she should be a star. Right? But when she told me, yo, Joe, you know, you too busy with podcasts and this, this and that, you know, I gave her papers in one second. I'm not the oppressor. I never understood the guy who was like, yo, you can't go nowhere. You can't this and this and that. It never been my style. Yeah. So it's pretty, you know, disgusting that you guys had to fight like that. You know what I'm saying? So to say, you have to throw a mountain on your back. Yeah. I mean, they at one point was trying to do what they need to do in terms of, look, I got this label back. I guess the intention all along was to have it acquired. So we were putting a wrench in it, being acquired without mess because we were arguing. But we was only trying to get what was fair. That's why we should have figured it out. No, no, not your fault. They should have figured it out. And to your thing. I just did a deal, right. Don't want to brag about deals or whatever. And I'm going to tell you a story, right? I don't owe nobody no money. Nobody. I don't owe nobody no money. And if I owe you money, you've been paid. If not, I don't know about it, but I did this deal and they all made me sign, like Fat Joe 2025 is a crackhead, that when I do the deal, they automatically get their money. They can't even let Fat Joe write the check to him or do the wire to him personally. They want that letter. First off, rip pay to connect. But I signed that. I don't have a problem. Oh, you want to get paid? No problem. You want to get paid. You want to get paid. You want to get paid? You got. You deserve it. You deserve it. You put in work for the deal, but tell you the truth in the back, you know more. My morals clause is Fat Joe. I felt a little crackhead ish, that, you know me, I ain't no bum. I've been around 30 years. I do business with everybody. But you want your money off rip, like direct to consumer. I was like, you know, I felt the little ways, you know what I'm saying? But it ain't nothing. But at the end of the day, they knew we wanna sell this shit. It's worth hundred million dollars. Two hundred million. I give De La Soul, they shit and move on. Well, needless to say, Tommy Boyd sold the company to Reservoir Media, which they all bought. Tommy Boyd's problem and the problem that was with us, they worked out fairly. Yeah, all right. I got jerked for my publishing. The man gave me $50,000, told me, yo, you Latino like me. I'mma take care of you Jelly Bean bonitas. Oh, the man never gave me a dollar. Yeah, yo, this guy heard this the end. This nigga name come up crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever the jerking story. I got a brother right now dealing with Jelly Bean. But he said, well, this motherfucker here. All right, go ahead. I did a deal where I had to find every nickel I had under the table stuck with gum. Every. Every nickel. Am I lying, Rich? We spent a year and a half brain busting every. Yo, is Les straight? Is Young Lord straight? Is it like to do a deal but this guy sells his shit for 100 million. This with no accounting, no nothing. I'm like. I'm like, how this man been jerking me for so long, and then he could sell the catalog, do all type of shit that just. They won't allow us to do. You understand what I'm saying? How do these people get. This is a delay. I'mma tell you something for so long. Which is sound. What the fuck? Holy moly. Sound effects, mate. What did he do? Oh, no, he didn't give me a better description. Can you give me a better. You know. You want to know what's crazy is. Oh, yo, yo, I'm laughing like this at my house, for real. I can't lie. I'm watching these niggas at the crib. I'm laughing just like this. Yo, yo, what do you mean, J? I don't give a. Great man I love. I'm trying to protect us. This about protecting us. This is honest. This is real. The old man you give it to, you give it to Zoe shouted one time. I get into a lawsuit with this guy. The people sued me, had the nerve to think I'm cool with him. This guy jerked me for at least 12 to 15 million or something. He's a number one. But he's nowhere to be. He's nowhere right. I go online to the federal court, this is a lawsuit. And the man, he bout this tall, he's standing behind me, he says, hey Joe, I looked at this dude, I said, you said hi to me. Some of these guys are spineless where they don't even care. No, they don't. They robbing you, they don't care. They'll look at you like, yo, this shit crazy. But the moral to the story is, you know, one day, this, this, this. Anyway, I can't even say that finally I got my shit back, 15 years later or whatever. But you know, one day I'm in a restaurant and they tell me, that's Jelly Bean's kids. Not the kids, not the kids back. Don't hurt the kids, not the kids. Don't hurt at that. The devil in me was sitting there eating, looking like I'm knowing that my kids sacrificed for those kids. Looking like Bippy Longstock. And they up here some billion dollar restaurant, this, this, that. And they like, yeah, those are kids. I'm like, I had to really find God and seek the kingdom in that spot. Seek the kingdom back. I seek the kingdom on that one. And no, I'm not threatening nobody, I had nothing to do with that. But I'm just saying, like, you gotta be very careful out here in these streets. Yeah, you do, you do. And it'll come back to you at some point. Yeah, yeah, it come back sooner or later. You think a motherfucker out there, motherfucker rob you. I'm watching this series on Murdoch. The lawyer from. He killed this family. You don't know about Murdoch? Murdoch, Murdoch and fucking. You better watch it on Hulu. Yo, this guy was a scumbag, Sean. I mean like he was a lawyer. Yo, but listen, the man was representing a man in a wheelchair. Never walk again. He win this shit for 800,000, never pay him. He representing ladies that died and their families blind now. And this and all them lawsuits, he kept the bread. Eight hundred millions, million. @ the end of the day when they come to him, guys fried this guy, tried to kill his family for the insurance, like. And I do think he's walking around the prison now like, like you. Some people just as cold blooded, they don't give a fuck. They don't. That, that's nuts. Oh, we gonna get a cabin in Scotto. I don't I mean, we would love to. I mean, you know, one big show or something. Oh, definitely, Definitely. Because we just. I think we could pull it off without question. I mean, we're blessed to always have shows like this. Shows usually booked months and months ahead of time, get a release the actual day of the release. We got a show in Vegas. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna buy a festival out there, but, yeah, man, that can definitely happen. You know, we should do a tour with. With groups. You know, we always do tour with groups. It's always been so. No, sorry, Joe. It's always been solo acts going out on the road. You say, sorry, Joe, because he's not a. No, I got love for everybody. Well, unless you're bringing out drtc, we could do the group thing. You know what I'm saying? You talking to me? You know what I'm saying? I set you up for that one. No, no, I'm with that. No, no, no, I'm with that. Okay. I have never said no to ditc. They say we making the album. I'm the first one in there working and following suit, you know, North Finesse is the captain of the shit. We run behind him. Whatever he say, yo, Joe, I need a hook here. You. This, this, this. We do what we do. When it comes to digging in the crates, you know, it would be no, Fat Joe. It wasn't for them. I don't give a fuck where I'm at, how big I am, how, whatever. Tell you the truth, it's the only thing that I ever been involved with in hip hop. There'd never been no our crew, we always loved each other. We always supported each other. But no, no, no. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, so that's like, you know what I mean? I would be down with that 1 million percent. That. That's a billion percent, you know, with all groups. That'd be crazy. You've seen that? Yeah, I've not seen that in a while. I just love the same dudes who can, you know, regardless of the age or whatever, man, who know how to command a stage and do what they need to do. And all niggas sitting here know how to do that. Like, I think the stages, like. Let me ask you something, right? Because I thought about this the other day. Other than Jay Z shout out to Roc Nation, we in the building. Yeah, Other than Jay Z, I even see Nas work, right? Could we ever just say, yo, we don't. We don't. We don't want to tour. Like, it's Been a long time since I know what comes on at 7 o' clock on ABC, what comes on at 8 o' clock on ABC, 9 o' clock on ABC or something. Like, is there ever a time? Because Smokey Robinson in them is 85. Patti LaBelle's 81. We did a show. Yeah, we did a joint recently. Yeah, it was recently, yeah. Yo, Rich, why you get up? What's your answer? Chicago, we can never retire. No, no, no, no, no. Where Nelly's from, St. Louis or something. St. Louis here with St. Louis? Yeah, we did a show with Patti LaBelle in St. Louis over some. I'm like on that Free Spirit shit. George Clinton be on, like, I can rock until it's over. Like Rolling Stones in autumn. Like, I love just going to our shows. We got generations there, like, black don't crack. Cause when we rocked, when we first started, we were like 18 and they were like 30 years old. 30 year old people into, like our music, you know what I'm saying? And 10 years old, you know what I'm saying? 10 years old. Now when we be at our shows, there's be generations there, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna tell you what's crazy. The other day I went to Kat's Deli and I met a brother. He was like 70 years old. He was like, yo, I watch you grow up. For some reason, I ain't know him. And I'm good with it, right? And the man starts showing me pictures of my uncle failed, that passed away. My Aunt Barbara. I knew he know the fam. So he was like, yo, I was there. You know, I'm from Washington, I'm from this, this, this. It's crazy because I'm 55 now. He was like, ain't too many gonna come up to you and tell you how they watch you grow up. I watch you grow up. I said, all right, man, thank you. This, I called my aunt immediately, you know what I'm saying? I was called Titi Barber. I was like, yo, I met this guy that. She was like, he'll come up to me. Don't worry about it. This, because I didn't get his name. Yeah, but it's crazy because I'm at the age now where people either gone on or they. The last thing they thinking about is Fat Joe, you know, somebody 75 or something who watch me grow up. If they hit when you lit, baby, we not even talking. I'm not talking about that. What I'm saying is it's hard to find Somebody watching. Grow up. Yeah, right now it's kind of bugged out. Bugging, man, Huh? I want to hear some music. We got a chance to hear. I'm ready. It's De La Soul in this motherfucker, man. Can we plug in and hear something exclusive? You gotta play it loud, James. Yo, James. I brought your favorite guys to the show. You see yo, yo, that won his poster signed of 89. He won everything. Oh, that's good. Let's go. I'm with that. I thought about getting drunk recently. Word. Thought about it. Yeah. You stop. You don't. I just don't drink, man, but. Don't start. I don't drink, but I. I thought about getting drunk recently. I said, yo, maybe I should get sleep. Let James open it. Been a while since I've been high on the street. You know what I'm saying? There we go. Touch that. You know when I. I used to get drunk and end up in people's cribs and like that. I don't give a. When I'm drunk, you could gas me into anything. They'd be like, yo, I be in house parties like, yo, Fat Joe, that's dangerous. Sitting up like, no, I'm telling you, it's not good for me. It's not safe to end up in the stranger's house drunk with a pharaoh. This is why I'm trying to tell you. Yo, that's just on that note. Ace of Spades. We're doing this for the craving some friends. We doing this for the Cabin in the sky project. Make sure you get it all platforms, don't stream it, buy it. You know what I mean? We gonna check out this joint. Run it back. It's featuring our brother, Nas. Nas did his thing on this. Produced by my brother, Super Dave West. Yeah, Nas. This is an ill one right here. Yeah, man. Man, shout out to everybody who produced on the album. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Report, report. Everyone report in. That's right. It's magic. It's magic like the free but, yo, don't ever get a misconstrued when you see us coming through with them date gold colors Lyrically, we run it all day so if you throw it to a loose D. Long Island, Long island it's the birth of a team here to clean up the turf and the word for the dream is to change the mind Regime and the lean that we lay with the words that we spray Be the way that we teach y' all to act Run it back with the palms, with the dice and the songs that we slice with the plate earn the weight and the height and the poems with the price with the men never mice when we on the device of the mic never that put rap on the line and the map of the signs that we make be the cake that we stack on my grind I'm a one of a kind and the one from the vine of the grape where you heard I'm a cat, man it's the thing that we hang around our neck like a chain is the piece of the pain at the least it's the lane that my flow shovel down in the sound we the rock cocaine to the brain on the track overdue with the new when you beg for the brew that we stirred and we heard that you don't have a clue how it's made it's the boom to the bat like the full and the pay that provide we're the sons of the beat and we stay on our toes of her feet exposed to the car to the creek cuz our ears in the street and our minds in the stars man, y' all know who we are. Tux. That's what I'm talking about. We up in here, but we going to take it on over to Queens to my brothers in the bridge who's about to run it back. There. Hey yo, everybody get back. Everybody look out. Look at the God. Let the God through. Let my brother through. Unsmackable half of you laughable. You won't be photographable if I have to run through half of your crew. I'm only trying to get smarter like 5 percenters in parliament Harlem rep the bottom, run it back, not the bottom like the bottle of snake wine with a snake still in it. We sip and see if it takes time to feel it. I'm speaking the building, Ghetto 10 and Mr. Militants no suburbia privileges Run it back from the rap it's not no wonder there Three's the magic number Add me to that number, that's four the fourth beats the fourth, ZZ Top member the fourth Fuji who me I fantasize musically when it's suitin me as wows as the 80s, 90s and thousands how it was sick, how did it slip? Now it's just doji dot and scissor with most powerful hits Leon Thomas Shaboozi with the country rap Only black artists on top of the charts Something's whack running back not only loving, only black. Don't start with that. The problem hatched probably with napster back in 99 in fact was not surprised from getting Diamonds back. He cries inside about it never. He just runs it back. Yep. Wait. Okay, everyone, I know your heartbeat is running fast after running it back, so let's slow it down. Ray, take a deep breath in. Now take a deep breath out. Is that. What is that weed smoke I'm smelling? Anyway, let's prepare to take our mind to the next song. Salute, salutery and salutations. And don't forget the vocalization. All right, that's right. That's. Hey, matter of fact, that's. That's Giancarlo Esposito on that. Like, he's talking throughout the top of the album. So it's dope that we got him on the album. These guys are special, man. You got. You know, Common came here, he was smoking some. You know, you guys got John Esposito on his. Come on, be awesome, right? This ain't that, man. This is the biggest in the game. Why would you even go to some Chicken McNugget spot? These ain't with us. You wasting your time. You're gonna go to the next podcast. They're gonna be like, hey, what's your zodiac sign in 1952? Get the out of here. Roof day the outta here. You waste a year time with them guys. They ain't got no motion, no tracks. Can I get my. Off My brother, we love you. Laugh when I watch the show. I'll be talking that. But listen, We love you. Yo, Sean, you know you come. Hey, 93, you collaborate. Yo, shut the up, bro. Who are you? Are you valid? Are you lame? Let me go through your. If I go through De La Soul's track list, I'm not even gonna lie to you. I wouldn't have an argument with y' all if y' all came with the De La Soul podcast. What can I say? I watched you. Me coming in the game, but some of these guys, we don't even know who the fuck they is, and they criticizing top tier up. Well, I think Jay should have said this. Like, who are you? Like, get the fuck outta here. But in any way, this ain't that. Nah, that ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss. God damn it. Make some noise for De La Soul. Love y', all, B. Thank you for having us. Yo, love y' all brothers, man. Love y'. All. Love y' all brothers. Love you. It's an honor. You guys are beyond legends. Your. Your icon. There's legends. There's. You guys are like, you gods, bro. You. You guys are untouchable, y'. All. Look at y' all the same way. I know you guys. You guys are different. You guys. Let us tell you what you are. You legend, you gods, you lords. We them legends with the legs. I hear you. They lot. So London leg. That leg right short by the lawyer, huh? You got two more times. Peace, y'. All. De la. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. 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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd — "Joe and Jada: De La Soul on ‘Cabin In The Sky’ w/ Nas & Mass Appeal, Q-Tip & SHADY rap labels"
Original Air Date: November 20, 2025
This high-energy, deeply respectful episode of "The Joe and Jada Show" (within The Herd) spotlights hip hop pioneers De La Soul. The episode is a vibrant, heartfelt conversation honoring De La’s legacy, their late member Dave, and their resilience through music industry pitfalls. Hosts Fat Joe and Jadakiss (‘Joe & Jada’) create a casual, humorous, and celebratory environment, discussing the making of De La’s new album "Cabin In The Sky” (executive produced by Pete Rock, released via Mass Appeal & Nas), memories of Native Tongues, epic collaborative moments, industry challenges with record labels, and much more.
“You guys are probably not really older than me, but you came in the game before me. So I look up to you guys. Like, you guys paved the way for all of us. Like, y'all beyond royalty. You're actually the first nice guys I ever listened to.” (Fat Joe, 07:40)
“The record is therapeutic for everybody. It’s closure for a lot of us. And you can feel him throughout the record. The whole ‘Cabin of the Sky’ idea to me is like, he working on the record from up there, you know?” (De La Soul, 16:32)
“We didn’t want to just take Dave’s verses off and add it to some other made up shit. It’s the hard shit.” (De La Soul, 15:35)
“When we was making this shit, he was right there with me… Like, Dave would always be like, ‘Yo, Merce, man, what you wrote is dope, but you could put more of that bullshit on it. Like he would say, like, you know, put that personality.’” (De La Soul, 16:08)
“When we make music, why don’t we put our name on the one name and call it Native Tongues?... Like, we too dope, we talk… our language is the same. We have this native kinship.” (De La Soul, 35:19)
“You never had anything, so you really don’t know. Like, what they're giving you is like this little piece of bacon from a table that got fucking 7,000 pigs you can slaughter in half of your own.” (De La Soul, 70:24)
“We always had the mantra of, like, yo, all you could do is say is no… Like, say no. How could it be on to the next, you know what I’m saying?" (De La Soul, 62:22)
“To the day he died, he told me this story. It was not me.” (Fat Joe, 105:45)
On Dave’s Impact:
“He had one of the most outpouring of sincere love that I had seen in the industry myself.”
(De La Soul on Trugoy, 11:38)
On Posthumous Albums:
“I never heard Biggie say a whack verse in my life… Then they started playing with them. Biggie Christmas Eve. They was just pimping that on another level…”
(Fat Joe, 20:40)
On Collaboration Philosophy:
“Quality for us, always over quantity, you know, that’s been y’all your whole life. We tried our best, trust.”
(De La Soul, 24:04)
On Label Deals:
“Why would I go back into an ‘89 deal? Why would he even present me a deal like that? It was already disrespectful...”
(De La Soul, 73:18)
On Fat Joe’s Business Approach:
“I’m not the oppressor. I never understood the guy who was like, yo, you can’t go nowhere… It never been my style.”
(Fat Joe, 79:05)
On Their Enduring Tours:
“I can rock until it’s over. Like Rolling Stones in autumn. Like, I love just going to our shows. We got generations there.”
(De La Soul, 97:53)
On Streaming vs. Buying:
“Make sure you get it on all platforms, don’t stream it, buy it.”
(Fat Joe, 122:44)
This episode buzzes with genuine respect, laughs, and deep reflections. Joe and Jada provide space for De La Soul—not only to celebrate their new work but to educate on business, honor lost friends, and reminisce about the era that defined hip hop’s golden age. Anyone listening walks away inspired by De La’s principles, resilience, and the love that hip hop’s best can still project across time and genre.
For fans of hip hop culture, business lessons, and behind-the-scenes stories, this conversation offers both entertainment and education—true to the spirit of the guests and hosts alike.