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Joseph Reeves
Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know it can't get. No better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Reeves. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian, a fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcast. From iHeartMedia to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Jeff Perlman
I'm Jeff Perelman.
Rick Jervis
And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast Finding Sexy Sweat.
Jeff Perlman
At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat a couple years ago.
Rick Jervis
We set out to find him, but.
Jeff Perlman
In 2020, Reggie fell into a coma after police pinned him down and he never woke up.
N.O.R.E.
But then I see my son's not moving.
Rick Jervis
So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
Jeff Perlman
Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
N.O.R.E.
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. San Diego. Coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
Fat Joe
We need to embrace this community.
N.O.R.E.
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Agusto Papa
What's up, guys? Welcome to the Agusto Papa podcast, the go to spot for everything. Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views of musica Mexicana. Whether you like to vibe to Peso, Pluma los alegres del varanco are el Camacho or Puerto. When you get in fields, then this podcast is for you. Well, actually, Peso was supposed to be on Chinito's album. The song with Drake was supposed to be with Peso. Listen to agaGustopa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Fat Joe
What's up with that conversation you had with Pusher?
N.O.R.E.
Beautiful.
Fat Joe
See, I want to hear about it.
N.O.R.E.
Beautiful.
Fat Joe
I want to know what's going on.
N.O.R.E.
You know, I come. I come from a universal man speaking language, right? Which if I say to you, kiss, yo giant, don't call me back. The minute you're supposed to see Giants, we'll say a giant, why don't you call them back? But if I say the Kiss. Yo, between me and you or off the record, Giant, don't call me back the minute you see John. You gotta. You gotta close your mouth. But I bung up that conversation.
Jadakiss
This.
N.O.R.E.
This is from 4 o' clock in the morning to 2 o' clock in the afternoon. I'm the sharpest you can ever speak to. I'm the sharpest. Like, I'm up in the morning, I'm doing push ups, I'm running. I'm trying to get my life together. Like, I'm sharp. He calls me six o' clock in the morning. So I remember this conversation to the tee. To the tee. And he called me and he. It was the first time I ever seen Pusha all these years, like, kind of have emotions. Like, he was like, yo, how our boy did that? So in case you don't know what I'm talking about, Rel Picked, he said both on Drink Quick Time with Slime Drake or Pusha T? He said both. Pusha called me and was like, yo. It was the first time I ever heard Pusha, like, raise his voice. He was like, yo, you think 40 from Uvo would have picked. Would have said the same. And I'm just sitting there. So when I'm bringing up this conversation with Pusha, I'm bringing this up in honor. I'm like, yo, that was honorable that he shared that with me. I wasn't trying to.
Jadakiss
So.
N.O.R.E.
So what I'm trying to say is when that conversation happened later on in that conversation, there was things that I brought up and I said, it's off the record. This is. This is off the record or this is between me and you? Because let's just. Let's talk about what we're talking about. Pusher, who is famous, called Nori, who is famous about a producer, Pharrell, who is arguably more famous than both of us, right. About a conversation with one of the most famous people on the planet, Drake. And this all happened on Drink Chest. So I assumed that this part of the conversation wasn't off the record because we later on addressed that and said, like, I said, I'm sharp from 3 to 2pm I'm the sharpest in the world. I remember this shit verbatim. He never said that. So if I blew that up as a man, my bad. If I blew that up. But I didn't. I didn't think I did. Like, at the end of the day, no matter what, you're media now. I got to tell you that. Joe, hold on. Off the record, like I just told you about the smoke champ shit. You see how you just use that on me?
Jadakiss
You seen that on the fuck.
N.O.R.E.
That was some personal shit. You see some.
Fat Joe
Oh, man, I knew it was something weird. No, that was hard.
N.O.R.E.
That was hard. He did his. He did his job. He did his job. That's exactly what he's supposed to do.
Jadakiss
That's how to get this guy to 100 million.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jadakiss
I never seen a guy I'm trying to get to 100 million. No, you crucify me on.
N.O.R.E.
No, you're doing your job.
Fat Joe
That's how we gonna get the 100.
N.O.R.E.
Doing your job is.
Fat Joe
I'm. I'm.
Jadakiss
See, I smoke trap, drink traction. I'm trying to do all this before.
N.O.R.E.
So hold on. Let me finish. So let me finish. So with Pusha, like, Pusha malice, you know, I knew him since they. They called him Terry Terrence, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was terror. This is my family. So, you know, they laughed it off. You know what I'm saying? So I sent them a text like, you know. You know, I'm coming back. You know what I'm saying? Like that type of shit. But let me make this clear. That's my family. They got the best album right now. I'm still working out to it. I was offended that he said I clout chased. When he said, everyone, he said, you know, it's album time. You know, everyone wants to clickbait. I just want to address that part. That part. I don't need clickbait. They come every month. My work is good. It speaks for itself. It speaks for itself. I don't have to click bait. So that part I want to address. But other than that, if I in any way, shape, form, or fashion blew up something that I wasn't supposed to blow up as a man, I apologize now, but I don't think I did.
Jadakiss
Now I can say to the two people that still believe I'm not Katie, everybody who thinks I'm real, it's only two. I've had two. I'm sure.
N.O.R.E.
You should be Captain Cats with that.
Jadakiss
Like, they me up, you know, you.
Fat Joe
Are not catching everything.
Jadakiss
Every time you do like this, they're like, yeah, Jada got our back. He know Joe capping lying again, this. But for the two people, the 1% of America. I've had so many deep conversations with Nori that you can't even believe. He has never repeated.
N.O.R.E.
I've never repeated.
Jadakiss
I have to say with Nori, thank you.
N.O.R.E.
Thank you.
Jadakiss
What I can say is if he knew that he couldn't say, that he wouldn't do that. You know, that's too many conversations.
N.O.R.E.
Dope conversations. I want to tell. I want to say what else? Like, this was.
Jadakiss
Can we say what else? Yo, yo, Nori. We try to fix something, try to.
Fat Joe
Rip it back off.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Yo, listen, Now's the time.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
To really get this over with. One shot.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah. We've had Illuminati business 20 years and 20 years. This is our deep conversation. Like, sometimes you don't realize the relationship you have with a person. How long, you know what a person. Like, I was in grinding. I was on grinding. I was on the remix, and I'm in the video. Like, you said, lean back. So it's like, if it's a misunderstanding, I get it. And I get why he didn't call me first, because what I did was publicly, so he had to respond publicly. So that's why I'm responding publicly at, you know, I.
Jadakiss
But it's all.
N.O.R.E.
It's all love. But at the end of the day, that's not who. I'm not a person who chases clout. I'm a person who has integrity. I'm a person who has integrity. I have morals, and I'm very, very creative. I'm too creative to. To. To. To. To bite anybody else's there. I've always been my own style. Always. I've always stayed in my own lane because it's never been trafficked there.
Jadakiss
But, Nori, let me ask you.
N.O.R.E.
You understand?
Jadakiss
Are you. Why you always say finger pop?
N.O.R.E.
It was an episode that you was on, man. This.
Jadakiss
This.
N.O.R.E.
That.
Jadakiss
He won't do that because he loved it. He already told me. He said, you break up with your wife, she's still gonna be my sister. The only in the mouth because, you know, we went. You know, we the type you break up. We don't know.
Fat Joe
You clip everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jadakiss
This guy here, he already. He already signed a petition like, yo, you're not getting rid of my sister. If you do, she's still family. That's horrible.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, that's hard.
Jadakiss
No. Yeah, I know. I know, but it's horrible because she got a little. At least. Nora, be my friend. Turn the off.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
New life. Enjoy your new life. And you made it.
N.O.R.E.
Let me tell you something.
Jadakiss
You got with a golfer, good for you. This life, this is a different head. You understand that? Walk up in there, you know, front row, the lights is on you, and all that. Good luck.
N.O.R.E.
But what are those called, though, Joe? What are those called?
Jadakiss
I don't know. These are some old. What are they? Mayor? How efficient. Now, these are regular. No, no, they're not regular.
N.O.R.E.
They're not regular.
Jadakiss
See the roses on the side don't do that. These ain't 5,000. Who else you gonna ask, huh? If you don't know, it's over. Your man. You up, man. You up. You supposed to be the sneaker aficionado. I had a real challenge with picking the sneaker because I got a bunch.
N.O.R.E.
That's fine.
Fat Joe
That went, right?
N.O.R.E.
Almost the same outfit with the echo bublanga, right.
Jadakiss
That fight had the new evitone, this bottega.
N.O.R.E.
Okay, okay, right.
Jadakiss
This was for the Amanda Serrano fight.
N.O.R.E.
Okay, okay, okay.
Jadakiss
Nobody was fly. I have a problem. We went to Sancho Pay. You think?
Fat Joe
So you had to leave that flash in the. You had to leave the fly.
Jadakiss
A fucking city lab is for sure. Nobody was coming through with that shit. What I do, whether I'm in Harlem, Central Pay, Africa, I'm staring at outfits at all times. I'm looking at everybody's feet, I'm looking at outfits. I'm thinking, you bringing it. I'm out there, I'm like, yo, I'm not gonna keep wearing $10,000 outfits when dudes is wearing two dollar outfits. Like, you know, Lori can't fly, but that was his wife's birthday. Besides him, nobody's outfits was out there hidden. So I just stood with a black tee and kept my Louis shit for the show. Like, I'm not going to go throw the shit on for no reason. But I went to Amanda Saran and nobody was fly. I went up in there, nobody was fly. Even the fly guys, like Fab, he wasn't really fly. Now I'm keeping it a buck. So the guys who serious. The guys who take this shit serious, they come out.
Fat Joe
You watch them comments.
Jadakiss
What?
Fat Joe
Watch the. Better get ready for the comments.
Jadakiss
I just saying, sometimes he take the night off. He had a graffiti T shirt with it. With it. I know what he had on. I wasted the outfit, by the way, so I bought it on the show because I know this is going to be the most ratings, the biggest. We got the drink champs here. So I got to rock this shit again.
Fat Joe
How about Monica?
Jadakiss
Double the dose.
N.O.R.E.
How about Monica?
Fat Joe
Well, you gave him that again.
Jadakiss
I went to the manor sale.
Fat Joe
No, no. This accent.
Jadakiss
And I wore this outfit.
Fat Joe
And then it was. You overkilled. So you had the.
Jadakiss
No, I ain't. Get it off. You know how much funny this shit is?
Fat Joe
Howdy. I got to get his Howard Got give Howard his love, practically.
Jadakiss
Howard at bot.
Fat Joe
Shout Howard out, man. I met Howard over there at bot.
Jadakiss
Jerked me too, cuz I was going to go some real poppy shampoo shit. He ain't really send it to the crib like. He sent the jacket, not the pants. They got stupid fly over there. I was waiting. That's what I wanted. Like, you know, I got the suntan. I've been suntanning. Know what I'm saying? I wanted to walk up in there with this linen crazy Bottega. But it ain't come. So I went pinky in the brain.
Fat Joe
He been suntanning.
Jadakiss
Just a pinky in your brain because you can't. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
Fat Joe
I don't know what he said. He went crazy.
Jadakiss
No, that's the high seat. You know, they got that. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Fat Joe
Yo, yo, yo.
Jadakiss
I live off. I live off of wins. When my brother wins, I'm too happy for him. When my brother wins, I'm too happy for him. Trying to stick somebody up. It might be EFN guys. He got all the money.
Fat Joe
I'm shooting, though.
Jadakiss
Him and Rich play. Oh, no. You might have a suit is in your house. You in Miami? Are you a gun collector?
Fat Joe
Of course.
Jadakiss
And the Avid, right?
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Jadakiss
You got some bullets you want to use, too? Them shits about this, yo. When I live in plantation, I had to come and see my little. I was begging for a dude to walk in there. Because, you know, they walk in that door. You know, they walk in there. The murder game is different, right? It's different.
Fat Joe
What are you talking about?
Jadakiss
No, let me say something, 13. Allegedly. It's different when people allegedly throw the hoodie on and the mask and they got beef with somebody. Roll up by themselves in the car, bike, whatever, handle their business. That's a murderer, right? A guy protecting his wife and his family in his home. He doing what he had to do. You jump up in there, he gonna pull out the big you. You got the big right efn. You got some super soaker that'll leave holes in them doors. This big horse. But, yo, in Miami, I won't argue. Let me tell you something, yo. Yeah, let's keep it above. In New York City, I invited the cops to the frankfurter stand, yo.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Jadakiss
You know this meaning?
Fat Joe
Yeah, the sound bites is crazy.
Jadakiss
No, I'm gonna argue with everybody. Anybody think they tough, I'm coming rapid mo. In Miami, if a grandfather's in the gas station pumping gas, you got a gun, say something to me. I'm staying fired.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, everybody got a gun.
Jadakiss
When you go get your gun license in there, you see old ladies getting their license with the big. Everybody's strapped. Do me a favor. We go to restaurants and the ladies with us, and we got six wives, they all strapped with hammers that everybody. If everybody in Miami said, oh, fuck it, pull your gun out, shoot at each other, oh, no. It's the biggest massacre you ever seen in your life. Everybody's shot. I'm not arguing over a parking spot. They cut me off. I'm not doing it. I'm telling you. Everybody strapped. So I know. I know you can't wait. You and that can do. I know you can't wait. I just watched ballerina. She had a fire gun. You probably got that fire.
Fat Joe
I got some. Why are you exposing my man's gun? He didn't want nobody to know. He just wanted his kid. You don't tell people you got gas.
Jadakiss
You don't tell him.
N.O.R.E.
No, no. You do look like you do look like a gun owner. Like I ain't gonna lie. But you do look like a gun owner.
Jadakiss
Nah, he got a heavy duty.
N.O.R.E.
Let me ask. Let me ask y', all because I went on vacation with Joe, and Joe took a show on vacation. I've never seen this before.
Jadakiss
Two of them. I went to Dubai for the royal wedding. Shout out. Rasha Bilhahid. Salaam alaikum.
Fat Joe
What's your name?
Jadakiss
Alhamdulillah. My name over there is Ali Kashani. I go, hi, I am Ali Kashani. And they go back and be like, yo, Fat Joe, get the fuck out. I want to play the role. You know what I'm saying? I want to be in the. You know, I want to be in this shit. So I went to Dubai to the wedding and caught that Club Blue shot out. Shit. Sierra did a show there. Get the bag. You definitely know about this. Then I went to San Trope and I'm like, oh, let's go club. Club VIP with Jean Rock in them and go get the bag. It pays for the hotel room because you guys pick expensive hotels. Nor you are the most expensive. Yo, help them out. If this don't work, you should have them on the side. You should have something, man. Yo, give him a like, yo, I'm gonna take care of my brother if it don't work out. Definitely flexing.
Fat Joe
Yo, relax.
Jadakiss
No, he's wearing with see through backs.
N.O.R.E.
The.
Jadakiss
The watches and all complications. I mean, with all this. That cost money don't get into his hand. No, he got money.
N.O.R.E.
You.
Jadakiss
You are like rich, player. I know for a fact. I think I borrowed some money from Rich today. I had to pay a bill. I said, rich, pay it. I'll pay you back. He got all the money in the world. A man won't buy a fucking croissant. Want me to tell you? The other day, we asked him to bring some Melbourne's home. We got the pool party. He bought three chicken wings, couple collard greens. This. I'm like, yo, bro, it's ten of them. Oh, the busta messed up the order. No, you. You paid 39.99. You ain't come through with the goods.
Fat Joe
How you doing, my man?
Jadakiss
I do it to everybody, but I make them hot on the streets. SNS got mustard on his shirt right now. He hot right now. He called me up and said he got a lot more. You see, the biggest line you ain't realize is when they go New York and Jay Z says, y', all, I'm making you hot out here. You got hoes.
N.O.R.E.
OG yeah.
Jadakiss
He said, yo, Juan. OG I make. Don't get that up. That's the number one anthem in the universe. He shot the guard out. So it's like, I'm making you hot. At least that's how I see it. Right?
N.O.R.E.
Right.
Fat Joe
He didn't say OG had mustard on this.
Jadakiss
No. OG Got a lot of money, man. Listen, when this guy. When this guy. And don't think it goes unnoticed. Every time you on your show, you get an opportunity to big up brother Joe, and you jump in. Or you get somebody to talk about Fat Joe and you just. I appreciate.
Fat Joe
Quick time with slime.
Jadakiss
Quick time with slime.
Fat Joe
I should get an award for that. I got the most entries.
Jadakiss
Let me ask you.
N.O.R.E.
Smart.
Jadakiss
Now I'm gonna go smart. Right? We're both Cuban, right?
Fat Joe
Welcome back. He keep going. He keep.
Jadakiss
No, no, but this is for me. Listen, let me tell you something. America has this policy, right? This is a real smart question. You're a smart guy. America has a policy where they feel like you're taking your one, too. If you go to Cuba and spend any kind of money over there, you're helping the regime. It used to be with Castro. Now it's with whoever's in charge, Right? Right.
Fat Joe
Same goes.
Jadakiss
But our Cuban people are really suffering big time, right? They don't. They put the light on two hours a day. They're fucked up.
N.O.R.E.
It's fucked up.
Jadakiss
You can't go to the restaurant and be like, yo, I take the chicha. I don't know, Poyo, I take the dish.
Fat Joe
You can't refrigerate your food out.
Jadakiss
You can't even refrigerate your food. So it's horrible, right? And my father always warned me and said, don't go to Cuba because you live in Miami. And the Cubans in Miami will be at your doorstep protesting because they. With that. They don't. They with America, let's not feed nobody over there. Do you think that's correct, that policy?
Fat Joe
No, I mean, there's. This is deep. It's deep because it's true. You go and spend money out there that's trickling up to the government and they hold it. They're like a mafia and they keep that money and they don't spread it out. The government is rich out there. The people are dying. That's what I'm saying. But I think my thing is if you go out there, if they allow people to go out there and interact, then the people will be inspired to make a movement out there to change.
Jadakiss
The illa. Question, when will Cuba be free? You see it?
Fat Joe
That's a million dollar question. We wouldn't know. Look, they have. We've had an embargo on Cuba, you know, which we choked. Which our government has choked Cuba. Which allowed the government in Cuba to say, it's not us, it's the Yankees. They're the ones doing it. They use it as a scapegoat. It's them really too, by the way.
Jadakiss
You want to know how Cuban I am, by the way? I was born in the hospital in the Bronx when Larry Davis shot them cops right across the street. It ain't my fault. I'm part of this history going on. Bronx, Lebanon. One of my cousins went to Cuba to free Cuba. You remember when three Cubans went like maybe 20 years ago? That's actually one of my fucking cousins. Went to Cuba to try to free Cuba. Jail for 20 something years. Came home like five years ago and he died already. Came home after jail, they put him in jail for 20 years. And my cousin, that's how Cuban I am, you guys, he called me the forest gump of hip hop. Something happened, I went in.
Joseph Reeves
Show me how good it could get today, God. And show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get no better than being hella black, hella queer and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Reeves. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian, a fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcast that explores society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look.
N.O.R.E.
I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice is given to me by God and I love it.
Joseph Reeves
Books that validated our identity.
N.O.R.E.
The library now for me is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to take off.
Joseph Reeves
Of shelves and how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Ebony
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Jadakiss
A foot washed up, a shoe with.
N.O.R.E.
Some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.
Jadakiss
Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case.
N.O.R.E.
That has DNA right now in a.
Ebony
Backlog will be identified in our lifetime.
Jadakiss
A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.
Jeff Perlman
He never thought was going to get caught.
N.O.R.E.
And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha.
Jadakiss
On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mark Lombardo
What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
N.O.R.E.
He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you.
Mark Lombardo
Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short term, highly regimented correctional program that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.
N.O.R.E.
The first night was overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you and we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything.
Mark Lombardo
Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
N.O.R.E.
Let me ask you, Jada, Jada, this is you.
Fat Joe
Great.
N.O.R.E.
Every month this clip keeps coming up and I don't think you ever got asked it where. It's me. You f. The party party. The party party.
Fat Joe
That's where I first. That was the first. Put the hood on. Looked over there.
N.O.R.E.
That was the first.
Fat Joe
That was Jacob.
Jadakiss
Yeah, that was the king of the hood.
Fat Joe
That was the beginning of it.
N.O.R.E.
So I invited.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I heard that you was trying to.
N.O.R.E.
I was trying to do something different. And then it was. What's it called? So what I'm saying is when it goes viral for me, it works out for me because it's on the show. What do you think? Every time that shit like, you know.
Fat Joe
No, I go. I have a little bit of crack moment. I go in the comments and start seeing. But once I see people like Kiss wasn't with that. You can see Kiss just look at Kisses. I can name it a wolside again. Long as they know I was right. I mean, I was really star. I was hungry. I remember I was a little bit grumpy that day. Anyway, then he came talking that party, party. He. He all the way threw me off with that.
N.O.R.E.
Right.
Fat Joe
And Fab can answered it a little bit better too.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, I mean, I see. From what I thought. I thought Fab had different vodka. It wasn't syrac.
Fat Joe
You actually made it made it make sense because he was talking business terms and riddles.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
The world don't know. He's saying, what's going on with. Yeah, I gave you some bread.
N.O.R.E.
That's what it looked like.
Fat Joe
No more. Yeah, that was. You fixed that.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah. But it was about. And it worked out.
Fat Joe
We hope that was it.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. EFN wasn't there.
Fat Joe
Smart man. No, I was on vacation. He's like, I'm in Tennessee. You don't remember this?
N.O.R.E.
Okay.
Fat Joe
I'm with the fan. He's like, yo, let's go. I'm doing drink champs in la.
Jadakiss
I can't.
Fat Joe
And then he did. I would knock it out.
Jadakiss
You went to a gun show?
Fat Joe
No, man, I was with the family in Tennessee.
Jadakiss
Went to a gun on the boat and he been riding Cranbo. He went to a gun show.
Fat Joe
He went to Tennessee. I was about to say that. He went out there. No, it was like some Christmas shit.
Jadakiss
Let me tell you the craziest shit, right? Because we're blessed and we're from New York originally. And there's racism, but it's a under. It's like hiding.
Fat Joe
It's like sexy racist.
Jadakiss
I can't tell you. Everybody works together. White blacks fed racism, man. The first time I went to a movie theater by my house and plantation and the white boys pulled up next to me with the. The whole truck was Dukes of Hazards, Confederate flag with the shoddy on the back window. I looked at my son was like, yo, God. My son was like, yo, Dad. I said, don't look at these people. Don't keep walking.
Fat Joe
Doing back in time.
Jadakiss
I said, keep walking in the movie theater. You've seen shit like that in Florida?
Fat Joe
Yeah, Florida. It's more north, like plantation. Central Florida.
N.O.R.E.
Not Kindle, though.
Jadakiss
I saw 18 Wheeler. An 18 Wheeler.
Fat Joe
Do a wheel. All.
Jadakiss
All Confederate flag, the whole 18 wheeler. And I was like, they won't drive this down Harlem or atl. Not this. But they had that out there. Tell her out there.
Fat Joe
Yeah, no Sexy racist. I experienced some race. I don't even know if it was racism. Something happened to me today, and I ain't even think.
Jadakiss
Today.
Fat Joe
Today. Yeah, I'm going through the thing. Pre check.
Jadakiss
Airport, right?
Fat Joe
I got TSA PreCheck. I've been selected randomly. They got it.
Jadakiss
We always.
Fat Joe
Today they selected me off the line to the regular line. I said, what the. You ever heard of that? Like, from the TSA Precheck to the other. I went to the thing. TSA PreCheck. Let me see ID take the pictures. You've been randomly selected to go through the regular. Hold on, let me speak to the manager. I speak to somebody.
N.O.R.E.
Them.
Fat Joe
Yeah, no, that's a such thing.
Jadakiss
Me when. A such thing.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah. I've never.
Fat Joe
Sexy racism.
Jadakiss
Every airport you go to, they got like, different rules. Like you could show up at some airport. Like, what. What's gonna happen to me? It gives me this. This is the one time racism hit me. So legendary. And I got that picture with you when you was like Fat Joe. You was chubby and I was in front of the.
Fat Joe
I wasn't like Fat Joe.
Jadakiss
Listen.
Fat Joe
I was just a little.
Jadakiss
Just a little chunky Jadakiss, something he hates when I put up that picture. But we was fat. I got the Rolls Royce. I need him on my team. I need him. If I could say he's from the Bronx, I'm going to say the. One second. So we got the Rolls Royce, right? I got the big sky blue Rolls Royce. Serge comes home from jail from his first bid. He comes home that day, and I got a show. I think we going to summer jam or some shit. So I'm not making this up. I pull over on the Jersey Turnpike to get, what, two glizzies from the nation, from the. I wasn't ready national. What's the. The what? Nathan.
N.O.R.E.
Nathan's.
Jadakiss
I got two glizzies, right? I go to that records. How about that? So I fat records. So I come back for this. It's a brand new Rolls Royce. This like a half a ticket. Whatever I just got sit in the car. We don't pull off. I'm about to eat my glizzy. Surges in the front. He's not supposed to be in Jersey. He just came home. He's on that parole and all that, right? The hardest shit you ever heard is a flashlight on the window. This window. I'm thinking, without exaggerating or lying, might be a $20,000 window, right? This is a half a ticket car, right? So I open the window. I'm not even driving. I'm not doing nothing more. I open the window, I'm like, your officer. What's up? Why you banging on my shit like that, right? And I really don't talk bad to the cops at all. Like, I'm. Usually I take it on the chin, keep it moving. Because I feel like we can't win, right? So I start talking to him. Slick. I forget Surges in the car, right? So I'm like, yo, what's up with you? It's the cars. Half a million dollar car. You hit the window, yo, this that license? This. I got everything. What you talking about? He said, you think you smart, huh? I said, excuse me. Now, this guy was Gomer Powell. He had the boots up to his knee with the little hat, with the little.
Fat Joe
The Little brim, brim.
Jadakiss
He was Gomer pow. So I'm sitting there like this, and I'm like. But I'm. You know, I'm acting up. I'm young. Got the Rolls Royce, going to do summer jam. Lean backs, number one, right? He goes, you see that? I said, what? He pushed the flashlight on. By the way, These rugs are fur.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Jadakiss
The fuck? He goes, you see that rock? I said, what rock? It was a pebble there. Like, for when you walk, you pick up a pebble. He said, fat bottle. I said, it's a pebble. He said, you know what I see? Crack cocaine. And here in Jersey, we put it in the lab. And it takes three days to come back. So you gotta sit in jail for three days. I looked like this. And I heard the song Change Gonna Come. Oh, yes, it is. Yo, I stand. It was cool by the river. I'm looking at this shit. I said, yeah, I see Malcolm X floating by. I said, yo, you know what? I said, you right, Officer, I'm sorry for talking to you like that. No problem. Not on my way. These guys, they could change the whole forecast in one second. So, you know, we just all got to deal with it. And the gem in that story is, I always tell you, don't argue with the cops. That's like a player arguing with the referee. Like a ballplay player arguing with the calls. Mate, he's the judge. You're not changing it unless you're doing that. There ain't none of this shit.
Fat Joe
Mike changed. Mike made the ref re. Switch the call before.
Jadakiss
That's why he.
Fat Joe
That's why that's a fact. You know, Mike told him, I ain't like that call. You didn't like it, Mike.
Jadakiss
Speaking of clickbait, we go on these sports shows and they try to say, you know, Mike ain't the Goat. This like that. That's the clickbait in they shit. Like they want you to respawn. And Mike's the goat. Nobody close. LeBron wants out of LA. Yo, listen. Yeah, fn. I want to thank you for having all that money coming out of your luxurious cage. Cause you don't come outside.
Fat Joe
He was making up to y' all. Cause he missed last week.
Jadakiss
He missed three shows.
Fat Joe
History off, Rip. He stood us up three times.
Jadakiss
One more, this would have been blasphemy.
Fat Joe
I'll bring an extra person with me today.
Jadakiss
Yo, yo, Relly, I'd have had smoking queens big time. No, I'm not.
Fat Joe
What's going on with run champs, man? What's next.
Jadakiss
Oh, so helpful.
Fat Joe
Who we doing seeing you everywhere? You doing well, Running with billionaires, it's.
N.O.R.E.
Something that's, that I'm passionate about. It's something that I'm doing. You know, Busta Rhymes called me, and we were speaking. I don't remember if he called me or I called him. He's like, so what do you get at the end of this? Like, like, like. And I realized that describing running, to a person who doesn't run, you sound stupid. Like, I sound like, if you not into this, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, I was in Naples.
Jadakiss
Your passion.
N.O.R.E.
I was in Naples. And, you know, I. I commented on this guy's watch. I was like, hey, man, nice watch. And he, and he looked at mine and he was like, nice watch, whatever. And I felt like he was snobby, right? So I was, I had to let him know. I was like, you know, I just wear that to swim. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? That's, that's, you know. And then other guy came over and it's like, see me take pictures? So he asks me, he's like, you know, what are you doing? I realized how kind of stupid I sound to a person that's not a runner. Like, if you describe getting on the bar to a person that don't do the bar, they'll probably look at you crazy because. Because this whole percent of the population, there's only 1% that runs, right? So we're automatically okay. We outcast. You know what I'm saying? That's why when you see another runner, you're supposed to say to another runner, thank you for running. You know what I'm saying? Or be like, yeah, you are you outside. You got to salute them. It's like, it's like, like, like when a black person see another black person. We universally go like this to each other, right? It's just happened. So a runner has to salute another runner. This is. This is a world that I love. Like, my father used to jog. I never jogged with my father. My father used to box. Never box with my father. But as he passed away, this is something that I, I, I, I, I became addicted to. It's something that helps me. I wake up in the morning no matter what. I don't care how much I did the night before. I'm gonna give you five miles. I'm gonna give you three miles. But then I got maniac people who, you know, who get down with me, you Know what I'm saying? Because anybody who runs with me. Yeah. Because, yo.
Jadakiss
But his son is busting his ass in the shot.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, Nakai, yo. Yeah. Nakai's an elite runner.
Jadakiss
You know your kids are bugged out.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Let me explain something. Those are my nephews.
N.O.R.E.
He's elite runner right here. Yeah. Yeah.
Jadakiss
Not that they need it, but you know your family's my family, right? So God forbid anything ever happened to you. Your family ain't my family.
N.O.R.E.
All right?
Jadakiss
And they good. You a different part of the family. You hanging out over there with God, fishing.
N.O.R.E.
Hold on, let me finish with Run Champs. So Run Champs. Well, first of all, we don't really even call it Run.
Jadakiss
You're an expensive.
N.O.R.E.
Run Champs is the name of the crew. The actual thing is Healthy High. But it started out with me, my boy Mitch and my boy Los. They both over there. And we all started out with, like, 10 of us at first, right? We would wake up in the morning, and out of the 10 is just three left. So we were like, wait a minute. Like, you know, we don't want to. And then I forget how Biz and Mess. I came. I think. I think it was Vegas biz and Messi came to Vegas and he ran with Tim's on, and we went viral.
Jadakiss
With me, you've been running, too.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah. So run with no tinge no more. Yeah, you better not. Nah. So. So we did that. And then what we started to notice is what I just said earlier with Rough Riders.
Jadakiss
You crazy?
N.O.R.E.
Rough Riders would go everywhere and they would have different chapters everywhere. Just similar to, like, what we did in Germany. But we're Run champs. I've been down at least 27 years, right? My album N O R e just turned 27 years old, right?
Fat Joe
On the run.
Jadakiss
On the run.
N.O.R.E.
Eating. Which is. Which is. So think about that, right? So out of all these 27 years career, this is the first time I have never been denied a permit. Like, all this famous shit I've been doing, believe it or not, I can't film anywhere I want to because the Nori name was attached to something different. The Run Chance name is so clean. It's so clean.
Fat Joe
They give you.
N.O.R.E.
They give me the permit. Like, we're damn near not paying. And it's. It's influential. Like, it's. It's one thing that, you know, I used to make music, and people used to come up to me and say, yo, I did a bid to your shit. That shit is. It's a compliment, but it's the worst Compliment ever. Like, I don't want. I didn't want you to do a crime. And like. And then. And they'll claim me. They'll be like, man, that whole bid, man, I'm stabbing it up. And, yo, it's like, hold on, buddy.
Jadakiss
No, no, the last one on one. I had the last one on one fight. That's on God. Okay, the last one on one. You know, I had to fight this guy who's on America's Most Wanted. Go Google ask. Go ask. Don't make me say. Don't make me say the name. This guy was on America's His Biscuit. You gonna find out America's Most Wanted. Telling y' all the truth. He was cocked Diesel. He should have won. He ain't win. But let me explain, son, to you. I'm driving over there, Cool and Dre, yo, Miami is different. I'm in the studio with them. I don't tell them I'm going to fight. I'm in my car and I'm blasting. What, what, what, what, what, what, what? This is how I'm going to the fight. You got to know the story. You know the story. Ching, bing. Because all the Bronx guys was there. Everybody ever want to see me fight and lose or get beat up and this and this and that. They was all there. So I pull up, but I pull up the Nori. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what? Now, my Uncle Jabu, for 29 years in New York State, he's one of the ugly ones. That's who I brought to hold me down in that one. When all these guys who did years in jail, they didn't even know Jabu was my uncle. While I'm listening to Nori. What? My uncle said, nephew, I'm gonna fuck you up if you lose. You better not lose. I'll you up if you lose. You do whatever. You bite you, scratch you. This, this, that, that. We them up, nephew. I said, yo, jab, I got this. I went over there, I handled my business with the last one on one I ever had on the planet Earth.
Fat Joe
I thought that was the last one.
Jadakiss
Yeah, he said that was the last one on one. You know what it is to have a one on one? You know what it is to be Fat Joe the Rapper driving Rolls Royces with you and actually going to the to fight a nigga on America's Most Wanted? One on one. You know what a fair one is? Shoot a fair one. And he's Coc Diesel. This guy was Coc Diesel. He should have won. I actually went there to lose. I said, yo, Joe, fight him toe to toe. Don't play games with him. Just go blow for blow. You know what it almost like when they do them shits now? The smacks?
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Wow. If you can handle it, the other guy comes with the smack. But that's what I was there for. I was for this. Let's go blow for blow. Whoever got a bigger chin? It is what it is, unfortunately, because that guy right there, he's an honorable guy. You know I'm talking about you. You're an honorable guy because you took the L with grace and you never talk shit. And Joe, or Joe might have seen it. He's a real guy.
Fat Joe
Where you fought him, they fought before.
Jadakiss
On Gone the Bronx. Know if y' all want to lie, y' all can lie if y' all want. He was on America's Most Wanted. The reason I fought him is because it was gonna get real dicey and we were gonna have to do something. We, you know, the best bet was one on one. The best bet is always one on one. I'm telling you the truth. It's like, all right, if you know your people gonna go to jail, they gonna go to jail. It's gonna get too crazy. This is all of mine. It's like he told me, I want to put hands on you. I was like, I'm going to have a tough time doing that. Beloved. And I'm fat Fat Joe. I'm like £480. You know what I'm saying? I'm not. I'm different weight class. You know what I'm saying?
N.O.R.E.
Shout out to me with the skeleton on. You got watch watch stalkers with Spiff tv. We're going to add Mayor my boy Mitch. We're going to get. You know, we actually put in artists with jewelers or artists with, like, watch dealers. And that's 100% independent on drink Chats Network. I'm going to be my own guinea pig.
Jadakiss
I love it. But no wrong. I'm your guinea pig.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot.
Fat Joe
You are.
N.O.R.E.
You are my husband.
Jadakiss
When they tell you Joe crack ain't really your own man. When they try to tell you all that shit in Queens, you be like, look, well, then there ain't been a sacrificial land for this guy. Any invention Nori ever made, even reggae tone. When I told him not to go, I was in the video, like, even when I said, yo. And let me clarify that. The reason I was worried for reggae Tone is because CNN is a staple in underground real hip hop. And I knew he was gonna catch backlash for that. He's like, the locks cnn, you know, this is the true, you know, mar deep. So I was like, yo, I don't know if you should do that because it's gonna hurt you in this, in this real world, this rich cotton, I want rich socks. Let me tell you something about Jada. He's a funny dude. He got his.
Joseph Reeves
Show me how good it can get today, God, and show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get. No better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Reeves. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian, a fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcast that explores society, culture, and the intersections of faith and identity. Listen to hello Black, hello Queer, hello Christian to hear conversations about what it means to sound the way you look.
N.O.R.E.
I think what I've had to make peace with is that every iteration of my voice is given to me by God and I love it.
Joseph Reeves
Books that validated our identity.
N.O.R.E.
The library now for me is a safe space as someone who is writing books that they're trying to to take off of shelves.
Joseph Reeves
And how we as black queer folks relate to our Christianity. Listen to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Ebony
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Mark Lombardo
What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
N.O.R.E.
He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you.
Mark Lombardo
Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.
N.O.R.E.
The first night was overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you, and we didn't know what to expect. In the morning, nobody tells you anything.
Mark Lombardo
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Jeff Perlman
The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis.
Rick Jervis
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Jeff Perlman
Aspiring rapper, and his stage name, Sexy Sweat. In 2020, I had a simple idea. Let's find Reggie.
Rick Jervis
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Joseph Reeves
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Jeff Perlman
No headlines, no outrage, just silence.
Rick Jervis
So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
Jeff Perlman
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Jadakiss
Jadakiss is real funny. He's having a great time torturing me on this.
Fat Joe
You my partner, man. You my problem.
Jadakiss
But I forgot what the I was saying. That's the Alzheimer's.
Fat Joe
Oh, yeah.
Jadakiss
No, no, no. I love Reggae Thong. I love what they doing. We going to the Bad Bunny. We going to Puerto Rico. We love our Reggae Thong brothers. But the only reason I was worried was, like, Nori's run dmc.
N.O.R.E.
He's locks.
Jadakiss
He's more deep.
Fat Joe
He's going into that was going to blemish his legacy.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
But I think I may be the only human being that ever came to tell him that. If you think, am I the only one?
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, y', all. Both y' all Cuban, B. Yeah, Cuban.
Jadakiss
Like this. I came, right? Because no disrespect, you know, we can't call them yes men because they still win him 30 years later. That's really his team. Right? But you know, I Watch guys play me their album. And they shit was trash. Not reggae tone, hip hop. And the whole crew was like, yo, yo. And they like, crack. What you think? And I'm like, they went from that to that. I can't even. You know, you got to be careful. So he got. Everybody's in the studio, reggae toned out. I'm like, yo, bro, let me out.
Fat Joe
Same thing that happened.
Jadakiss
Everybody's reggae toned down.
N.O.R.E.
What you got to realize, you got to realize.
Jadakiss
Let me finish.
N.O.R.E.
Let me just say something. When you got to realize when you're the first, you always kind of look stupid. When you're the first. When you're the first, you always appreciate what you did. And then you have to. You have to actually like to tell you the truth. Like, I met Bad Bunny with you. You, you, you, you. At once a year, you. You bring me to the next game. You, you. You hold me down. And by the way, by the way, I. I would really appreciate you because I'm a playoff type of guy. Like, once it's in the playoffs, then I'm. Then I'm locked in. I'm the season. I'm not really. I'm not in like that Mitch would have to tell me, Ed. And you brought me to the most important game. Yeah, to the most important game.
Jadakiss
You know why? It ain't even about you. I love to show unity to the world and show that, my brother, if I got a courtside ticket, that they're calling me. Me and you talk about this all the time. They are calling me from la, from this billionaires, all the guys I know, like, Joe, can I sit? This guy is threatening me. Everybody wants that seat. Everybody. You know that nephew don't lie. Come on, give it up. Your nephew, you know, don't lie. That's that prime time, right? So I go get my brother. I said, come on, slime. Get your Nick outfit ready. We going. Of course, I. For real, Joe. We have to do that to show people. The thing that's most magical and legendary about the Locks is that they never broke up and they stood together. We gotta show loyalty and unity at all times. So that's. That's what I love about that. What I was saying is, thank God you did that for reggae tones.
N.O.R.E.
Nope.
Jadakiss
But my thing is, so I want to tell the story real quick. So I go up there, I see you'll know me, please. Like, I come out my house, I come, we sit in the lobby. I go, you're Nori, man. You know, you seeing that queens, you know.
N.O.R.E.
I'm Run chest and drink champs.
Jadakiss
Hold up. You knew ahead of time. But I go like this. And he turns around and goes. His eyes open so wide. He said they gave me the bag. He said they gave me such and such amount. I said I had to leave. The man said they gave him the.
N.O.R.E.
But I didn't just, like, run champs. I didn't go there for the bag. I went there for passion. Like, to tell you the truth, I did a party in Puerto Rico. And this. This is how. This is how. This is real talk. This is real because I, I, I sometimes I describe it as I'm a genius. But let me just tell you really what happened. I went. I went to Puerto Rico. It's my first time in Puerto Rico. I don't speak Spanish. I'm not fluent like that. I can understand it. You can't talk about me in Spanish. I'll know that. I know I'll get us out of Branson Square Garden. If it's a stabbing, like, I could get. I know enough Spanish not to get jerked when I bought work. You know what? I' I go to Puerto Rico. This is when Ja rule is like 10 million. He's the hottest dude on the planet. I get to Puerto Rico, they're like, yo, ja Rules at your show. And this is when I'm talking about, you know, Ja Ja, like, when, you know, shirt off everywhere. Like, he has no shirt. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's just walking around. And so I'm on the island of Puerto Rico. I'm like, I'm mad nervous. Cause I'm like, yo, this shit is sold out. Why? Why are they sold out? Nothing is number one, homeboy. I came to Paul. So I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm like, but why is it. There's too many people. Like, I've done shows in Puerto Rico, but I've never done a show like this. They're like, yo, dago, this was Thaygo's show. And they go backed out at the last minute. So I'm like, oh, this takes all the pressure off of me. I'm like, oh, okay. They here for Thaygo. All right, cool. I know I got hits, so it doesn't matter what language homeboy. Ikena party is ripping anything down.
Jadakiss
It's a fact.
Fat Joe
What?
N.O.R.E.
What? Ripping anything down. So I'm like, all right, cool. I'm good. I get on stage.
Jadakiss
Those shits are fucking smoked as hell.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
N.O.R.E.
So hold on. I get on stage, I perform, and then I just watch the Reggae Thong crowd. I just watched them sit there and party. And I was so used to performing and a fight breaking out or someone throwing a drink on someone, and these guys partied. I wanted a part of that world. I was like, I don't want to. I don't want to be around violence anymore. I don't want to do. So I did one record, and it was called. And that record went through. It went, whatever. Then I came up to Kevin Laos, ironically, I came up to Kevin Laos and I said, listen, Kev, I want to do. Do Spanish. I want to do this music. You know. You know, Beyonce did it. Everyone's. No one sees it at the time. So Kev goes, I'm gonna do something that I don't do for no artists. I'm gonna let you go out there and go. Go do the record. So I literally. I literally, like, right now, with all these DJs playing reggae thong. Like, I literally had to go to these people, Joe. Like, this is the reason why I was so passionate about it, because I know if it worked, we would be right here. But I thought they would be praising me, like, God, like, you know what I'm saying? I thought them niggas is like, whatever you. Thank you for what you did. Keep going. You know what I mean? But that shit gave.
Jadakiss
How do you. How do you feel, of course, about that?
N.O.R.E.
Of course I'm human. You said you're human. That's my comments. That's my comments. Like, when. When I. When I look. You know what I'm saying? Like, when Bad Bunny gave me love that day, that shit really meant a lot to me.
Jadakiss
Bad Bunny gave you too much.
N.O.R.E.
Yo. He. It really meant a lot to me.
Jadakiss
Because I found Bad Bunny 20 times.
N.O.R.E.
Yes.
Jadakiss
And he's too cool for school. He shows love, but he keeps it moving. That day we went to the Nick game, he ran around me, was like, Papi Bobby, he wanted his.
N.O.R.E.
He showed me love. Like, so Bad Bunny.
Jadakiss
Like, so much love.
N.O.R.E.
And it was crazy.
Jadakiss
Shanks might get the first Bad Bunny interview. Y' all better reach out.
N.O.R.E.
Nah, I think LeBron got it. I think, you know, that's. That's dope. You know what I mean? But. But let me get back to what I'm saying. Like, I love. I love when I. When I hear. When I turn on the radio and I hear Reggae Thon on. And don't get it twisted, because I don't want people to feel like I'm saying I invented Reggae Thon. I didn't. I help it come To America. That shit was so beautiful. So getting back to that story was like, then I did these records, and I would perform them, and the number one place in the world is Orlando. I don't know. I don't care what you say. I don't care. I know from the algorithms, Spanish music is in Orlando. If you want to test anything, you go to Orlando. That is, baby Puerto Rico.
Fat Joe
Yes.
N.O.R.E.
To the. To the core.
Jadakiss
I beat people up over there.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, my God. But so I got a story for you. Okay, so hold on.
Jadakiss
I'll tell you that story.
N.O.R.E.
Listen.
Jadakiss
Oh, my.
N.O.R.E.
So now. Now I can actually sit back and say, look what I helped help do. Now, I didn't help create it, but I helped it come to the masses. I helped introduce it to Americans. Like, I would literally go to radio stations and give them records. Like. Like, yo, do you understand how it. How hard it was for me telling people as Capone, Noriega, I got a hit record with a guy named Daddy Yankee. That name sounds so, so, so, so, so, so household. Household now, yeah.
Fat Joe
But back then.
N.O.R.E.
But imagine. Imagine they like cnn. Capone, right?
Jadakiss
Because you was an underground.
N.O.R.E.
Got a record with the hip hop purists.
Fat Joe
And for Latinos, it was already hard enough.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Fat Joe
We didn't. You know, so I'm like. Like, this is. I went to Puerto Rico. I don't know if it was a.
N.O.R.E.
Couple years before that.
Fat Joe
Echo, he took me to a club. I forget the name of the club, but it was one of the big reggaeton clubs. And to me, it sounded like they just. They looped Murder She Wrote, and it was the same Murder She Wrote beat, and they were just doing Spanish patois, but still. And I'm like, it's cool. And it looked good with the chicks, but. And Echo told me that day, he said, this is going to be the biggest music in the world. It's going to take over America.
N.O.R.E.
I knew it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Like, I saw it. And it was just a party. It was just a party vibe.
Jadakiss
When they were partying, when they were.
N.O.R.E.
Partying, I felt like they're here for the music. Like, that was the first time they're here for the music. So. And I'm gonna be honest with you, that's the first time I felt like I traded fans. Like, you know, like, listen. Yeah. Like, me and Jada, for lack of a better term, we kind of have the same audience. So when I'm getting on a Jada record or Jada's getting on my Record. It's kind of the same people anyway. Mobb Deep and Kapono Noriega should have never done records together. We should have. And if we did records together, you know what we should have did? Girl records. I thought about that shit years later. I was like, yo. Because we were. We wasn't trading audiences, you know, the first time I felt like I traded audience. R. Kelly. When I got on R. Kelly's record, his audience followed me. And the second time I got. I felt like I traded audiences was when I did break it, though, I felt like that audience was all viejas coming up to me at the airport. Ah. Oy, Mikando. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that shit was like. So that gave me an experience that I could never take back. It was one of the. It's one of the most happiest times of my life. Now, had I knew better, I would have. I would have definitely tried to sign Daddy Yankee. Like, I was bringing Daddy Yankee. I was bringing Daddy Yankee to Interscope. I was bringing Daddy.
Fat Joe
Like an idiot.
N.O.R.E.
I didn't even think for myself.
Jadakiss
Like, that's how passionate I was about this. Yeah, I know your story, and I know everything you're saying, but I had Daddy Yankee 10 years before.
N.O.R.E.
Yes. Yes.
Fat Joe
Holy.
Rick Jervis
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Saying you are the leader.
N.O.R.E.
Yes. Yes.
Jadakiss
This guy wants me to die. He's one of them guys that might throw a parade.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, my God.
Jadakiss
No, no. I'm telling you the truth. He might roll up a race.
N.O.R.E.
Let's get over this.
Jadakiss
You know what happens? I am Puerto Rican and Swiss, so I know my people, so I know the flaws and I know what they do or whatever the case may be. We came out to the fight with Edgar Balanga, and it was Puerto Rican heaven. He got knocked down and the whole crowd cheered. These the same guys that, when we walked out there with the flags, was, ah.
N.O.R.E.
He fell, and they was like, like, cheering for him. His fall. Oh, wow.
Jadakiss
Cheering for him. They went there saying, edgar Balanga, my man, I'm baldy time. This, this, that.
N.O.R.E.
And you think that's boxing fans or you think that's.
Jadakiss
Nah, nah. Okay.
Fat Joe
Haters.
Jadakiss
Yeah, they turn, like, in one second, like, so he learned that. Cause he's a young kid, but I learned that a long time ago. Right? So Fat Joe's very careful with all this shit. They.
N.O.R.E.
So let me say something, man. Let me say something.
Jadakiss
I learned that a long time. You know, we started the Puerto Rican parade. We started bringing boxers in the ring with Felix Trinidad. We are the first to rap Me and Big Pun bringing Felix Trinidad in the ring. That's all about equa.
Fat Joe
Shit.
N.O.R.E.
Every ran in Puerto Rico, too.
Jadakiss
I know y' all had a run, yo, it's biscuits. I love how you said.
N.O.R.E.
Apostrophe.
Jadakiss
You know what they say that somebody had to break down to me because, you know, I don't know. I'm really telling y' all the truth. I'm fried, right?
Fat Joe
They know.
Jadakiss
No, listen, I'm fried. One thing I could never recite is it if I try to recite one of your rounds of. One of your rounds of fucking up, guaranteed, I'm calling people different names, right? It could be a guy I know forever. His name is Johnny. I'll be like, yo, Junior, what's up? This like, I'm fucked up. I'm fried. Like, I don't. Yo, Ching Bing, you fried or no? I'm fried.
Fat Joe
Fried one's company.
Jadakiss
But why was I saying that right now, yo?
N.O.R.E.
I don't know.
Jadakiss
What was I saying just before that?
Fat Joe
It was something with biscuits.
Jadakiss
It's biscuits. You know how many millions of people tell me I keep saying Joe Button's name wrong? They'd be like, yo, you're violating, you know, this a million years. Why are you calling him Joe Button? Because I'm thinking, these Joe Buttons, right? And they like, no, people have just said, yo, no, no, no, beef Joe Buttons, my man. They just say, I'm trying to tell y', all. You see. No, everybody only takes that clip, right? They don't take the preset up to it. I'm telling you, I'm fried. I'm. I'm up. I mess up everybody's name. I mess up the lyrics. This is what I do all the time. This is my life in real life. So it's no disrespect to Joe Buttons, right?
N.O.R.E.
So let me just tell y', all, I'm proud of both of y'. All. Y' all both had other shows that could have gave up, that figured it out, that got together. This is a dope show.
Jadakiss
Who's the newest, biggest in the game?
N.O.R.E.
I went, vin, do you see this? Hold on, hold on.
Fat Joe
I gotta give a shout out. No, no, Put that down for a minute. I gotta give a shout out to me and EFN for being able to tolerate. That's a Gemini in there. Not easy.
Jadakiss
Listen, I'll be watching.
N.O.R.E.
No, but I'm.
Jadakiss
I'm. I want to give y'. All.
N.O.R.E.
I want to give y' all something that y' all probably.
Fat Joe
I got.
N.O.R.E.
That's. Y' all starting controversy. But I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. It's all clean. Controversial. It's all clean. It's not messy. You know what I'm saying? I thought the Delusional Records throwing French over there was a little crazy, but it's all clean. Yeah. You said he's delusional. He's the first artist signing Delusional Records.
Jadakiss
Yeah, I said that.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Apologize to my brother. I don't know.
Jadakiss
Sometimes everybody delusional.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Okay. So motherfuckers saying shit wacky off the wall that we cannot confirm. They're delude. They're calling me the Cap King Cole.
Fat Joe
I'm coming to see you Pristine.
N.O.R.E.
You got to come out with the Captain Crunch cereal. Come out like mace at the popcorn and just come out with the Captain Crunch cereal with, like, mace with the popcorn and just keep eating the Captain Crunch cereal. You'll be. You got. You. You get. You're ahead of them. You. You know like how Eminem did. You're ahead of them. You should call it ep Captain Cross. I'm telling you, roll with it. I roll with the punches.
Jadakiss
Yeah. I let my watch. Talk to me. Talk to me. Yacht fool me. Blah.
Fat Joe
He just told you he said wrong. He just told you he said shit wrong. He called you the wrong.
Jadakiss
Named it in a great way. Like, I don't worry about these people. I know I came from shit, all right? I wiped my ass with the newspaper when I was in the project. If it was too hot outside, I had no ac. I had to sleep on the floor.
N.O.R.E.
All right?
Jadakiss
My first apartment, I have rats this big. I bought a ferret. They beat that up, yo.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
You guys can't think about poor. I'm so sorry. I know about the gook, the stinky juice in the dumpster, the projects. You guys got me really up because you've been seeing this for the last 20 years or something. Y' all got me sideways up. You can't tell me nothing about no bum. I know it all. And so when you trying to break down my confidence to try to dis this that you lose. You can't do it to me. There you go. It's biscuits. That's why I with you. You know? He goes like this. So you know how Dubai go? Hi, I am Molly Kishani. His shit is like, hey, you know me, biggest blogger. Most of the time they say they don't know him. Right. I don't know you. Wow. I'm Ms. Biscuits, the biggest blogger in the game. How do you. That's his. I love that in biscuit, yo.
Fat Joe
We want to thank our guests coming through. Drink champs, DJ efn, my brother Nori. Let's make some noise, baby. No, he's still flexing. He got a big reservation at Nas.
N.O.R.E.
Japanese Fried Chicken Cocoa.
Fat Joe
Michelin star. I've been in there. Shout out to Nas and his partners is a nice experience. Everybody can't get in, so don't try.
N.O.R.E.
First off, it's healthy fried chicken. I don't know if I'm supposed to be promoting that fried chicken, because I believe they air fry it and they do it without this oil. Yeah, there's no seed oil. So it's like. So it's.
Jadakiss
So you gotta give me the name of that. Cause I love me some good fried chicken.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
He needs a grease.
N.O.R.E.
And it comes with. It's caviar.
Fat Joe
They give caviar chicken nuggets. Carry on, fish. It's mad.
N.O.R.E.
Carry on. I'm not. Listen, listen. I'm not Cap. I'm not Cap. I'm not Cap.
Jadakiss
I'm not even.
N.O.R.E.
Nas told me. He said, yo, when. When they invested into. He paused, pause.
Fat Joe
About you.
N.O.R.E.
He said he thought about me. He said, that's. That's just you, fried chicken and caviar. I was like. He said, that describes you like, you know, I'm. I'm hood, but I'm. I got. I got. I got. I got a little elegance for me, you know what I'm saying? I know how to eat, you know what I'm saying? I know how to do the fork and the knife, you know what I mean? I'm not. I'm not.
Jadakiss
Shout out to the rapper Nas doing big business things out there. Big entrepreneur, killing the game. And he, you know, he moves in silence. So he's doing shit we don't even know.
N.O.R.E.
He's doing fire and he's getting to casino.
Jadakiss
Shout out to Jay Z. Yeah, he's.
N.O.R.E.
Trying to do a casino Times Square. That's hard.
Jadakiss
He putting up his own 200 million for that casino.
N.O.R.E.
Jesus.
Jadakiss
It's a big. You know when you put up your own 200 and you already got the building in Times Square and you. You know, we in ROC Nation right now. We in Rock Nation right now.
N.O.R.E.
And let's end it with these is Illuminati, y'.
Jadakiss
All. I was going so good. I swore Mike Brinkley was coming with 67 bottles of aces. What's the deal with you and Ace Suspect? Cause you got a Sancho Bay, Santo Domingo, this, this, that.
Fat Joe
Yeah, he got it.
Jadakiss
Are you, like, got something?
Fat Joe
He got an apple air tag with Ace.
N.O.R.E.
They send it, man. He's at.
Jadakiss
Keep it quiet.
N.O.R.E.
You love Ace of Spade? Absolutely love Ace of Spade. And it's not. Not just, you know, the J affiliation. The thing about it is I. I'm a. I like to drink a lot, right? So if I'm gonna drink, I want to drink soft shit. So when it comes to Ace, I. I, hands down, know that that is the best champagne on the planet. You know what I'm saying? Like, for me, for me now, for me too. Now, I would argue. I don't mind. I don't mind arguing with anybody. Like, you know, I come from Moet Demi set days, you know what I'm saying? Like, where the drug dealers used to do that. So I should want to mimic the drug dealers. So when I became older, that's the reason why I got the 222 Boxeron. I ordered a Boxeron.
Fat Joe
Two.
N.O.R.E.
Two. You know what I'm saying? Just because of, like, the old school. But Ace of Spades, to answer your question, is a brand that I really, really appreciate. I really love. I'm a part of. I'm a part of, like, their secret family. And I just.
Jadakiss
I'm gonna tell you where I fucked up at because I had three bottles of so Puerto Rican rum ready for you.
N.O.R.E.
Okay.
Jadakiss
You know, I got a rumor.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, that's right. That's right.
Jadakiss
And I was gonna bring it to you. I up.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
But I'm glad we got a nice sober chance.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
Shout out to Mr. Lee.
N.O.R.E.
Oh, yeah.
Fat Joe
Shout out to Booby Trap. Yo, be there on Friday.
Jadakiss
You'll be there on Friday.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Oh, my God. But listen, let me tell you something. It's the left, yo, booby trap.
N.O.R.E.
It's all good.
Jadakiss
Booby trap is. Is. Is the devil's layer. It's not. I've never been nowhere where I just sat there, right? This is a true story. I sat there. Let's keep it real. Yo mama. I'm not violating it. I'm just, just. I'm in booby trap. And everywhere I look is just insanity. If it's Asian, it's.
Fat Joe
I went there with Nori at the best time ever.
Jadakiss
I cause you at the best.
Fat Joe
Anybody come next to him. Nori, like this. I mean, stay over there.
Jadakiss
But, like, you know.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
Nephew, you know how you have an epiphany this one night? I'm up in there. Shout out to money man. Money man. Do money with the money was just. We was. We literally was like swimming to get out. He threw so much money, it was out of control. And when I look up, probably the most beautiful women in the world of every shape, size, and color is all around. And I sat in the chair, I said, this is the fucking devil's nest. This will fuck your life up, this place. I'm saying it right here, right? So some girl walks by, and I'm like. And that's when Nito hit me. Four in the morning, Nito hit me on the shoulder. He said, yo, no, they're not looking at. I swear to God, yo, listen, I'm not gonna lie. It was like the voice of God.
N.O.R.E.
Yeah.
Jadakiss
So I'm like, I'm giving in. Like, it's just too much going on. And the girl walked by, and I look, and he just goes, you're right.
N.O.R.E.
Right?
Jadakiss
I look at the floor. Shout out, booby trap.
N.O.R.E.
We love you.
Fat Joe
Shout out.
Joseph Reeves
Show me how good it can get today, God. And show the rest of the world what we already know. It can't get. No better than being hella black, hella queer, and hella Christian. My name is Joseph Reeves. I am the creator and host of Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian, a fully black, fully queer, fully human, fully divine podcast. From iHeartMedia to Hella Black, Hella Queer, Hella Christian on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Jeff Perlman
I'm Jeff Perlman.
Rick Jervis
And I'm Rick Jervis. We're journalists and hosts of the podcast Finding Sexy Sweat.
Jeff Perlman
At an internship in 1993, we roomed with Reggie Payne, aspiring reporter and rapper who went by Sexy Sweat a couple years ago.
Rick Jervis
We set out to find him, but.
Jeff Perlman
In 2020, Reggie fell into a coma after police pinned him down and he never woke up.
Joseph Reeves
But then I see my son's not moving.
Rick Jervis
So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own.
Jeff Perlman
Listen to finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
N.O.R.E.
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. It San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.
Fat Joe
We need to embrace this community.
N.O.R.E.
Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Agusto Papa
What's up, guys? Welcome to the Augusto Papa Podcast, the go to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views of musicana. Whether you like to vibe to Peso, Pluma, Los Alegre de Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or put Ivan Cornejo, when you get any feels, then this podcast is for you. Well, actually, Peso was supposed to be on Chinito's album. The song with Drake was supposed to be with Peso. Listen to agaGustopa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Joe and Jada - Drink Champs [Hour 2] - Pusha T's Pharrell-Drake Rant + N.O.R.E. & Joe's History
Release Date: July 22, 2025
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Fat Joe and Jadakiss engage in a lively and candid conversation with N.O.R.E. The discussion delves deep into their personal histories, experiences on the popular podcast Drink Champs, and addresses recent controversies involving prominent figures in the music industry, including Pusha T, Pharrell Williams, and Drake.
Timestamp: [02:14] – [06:25]
N.O.R.E. shares a poignant recollection of a heated conversation with Pusha T during an episode of Drink Champs. He emphasizes the significance of Pusha T expressing genuine emotions, something he hadn't witnessed in years.
N.O.R.E. [02:49]: "This is from 4 o'clock in the morning to 2 o'clock in the afternoon. I'm the sharpest you can ever speak to."
Jadakiss [03:46]: "I never seen a guy I'm trying to get to 100 million."
N.O.R.E. discusses the tension surrounding the conversation, clarifying that parts intended to be "off the record" were inadvertently addressed publicly. He also confronts Pusha T's accusation of clout chasing, asserting his integrity and commitment to his artistry without relying on clickbait.
Timestamp: [06:25] – [12:00]
The trio delves into how media portrayal can distort genuine conversations and relationships. Jadakiss expresses frustration over misconceptions about his authenticity, while N.O.R.E. underscores the importance of staying true to oneself amidst media scrutiny.
Jadakiss [10:13]: "Nobody was fly. I have a problem. We went to Sancho Pay."
Fat Joe [11:31]: "You watch them comments."
They also touch upon their experiences with public appearances and the expectations of maintaining a certain image, discussing everything from fashion choices to personal anecdotes about attending high-profile events.
Timestamp: [27:09] – [40:43]
N.O.R.E. elaborates on the inception and growth of Run Champs, a collective focused on running and personal development. He recounts the challenges of maintaining permits for filming under his established name, highlighting how the Run Champs brand has provided a fresh and clean slate for their activities.
N.O.R.E. [39:56]: "Run Champs is the name of the crew. The actual thing is Healthy High."
Jadakiss [40:17]: "We're Run Champs. We've been down at least 27 years."
The discussion includes the impact of Run Champs on their careers, the importance of community, and how the brand has allowed them to engage in projects without the baggage associated with their personal names.
Timestamp: [40:44] – [58:58]
The conversation takes a more personal turn as Fat Joe and Jadakiss share stories from their past, including encounters with law enforcement and experiences of racism. They candidly discuss moments of vulnerability, such as Jadakiss's interaction with a police officer and Fat Joe's frustrations with TSA PreCheck experiences.
Jadakiss [33:45]: "I was in grinding. I was on grinding. I was on the remix, and I'm in the video."
Fat Joe [30:26]: "Airport, right?"
These stories not only shed light on their personal struggles but also highlight broader social issues, fostering a sense of camaraderie and mutual understanding among the hosts.
Timestamp: [58:55] – [69:53]
N.O.R.E. passionately discusses his role in introducing Reggaeton to the American mainstream. He reflects on his collaborations with artists like Daddy Yankee and Bad Bunny, emphasizing the cultural significance and the challenges faced in bridging musical genres.
N.O.R.E. [60:45]: "I helped introduce it to Americans. I would literally go to radio stations and give them records."
Jadakiss [63:50]: "He might roll up a race."
He also shares anecdotes about performing in Puerto Rico and the overwhelming support he received, which reinforced his belief in the global appeal of Reggaeton.
Timestamp: [69:53] – [75:32]
The hosts reflect on their legacies and the future of their careers. They discuss upcoming projects, including endorsements, business ventures, and the importance of maintaining relevance in a rapidly evolving music industry.
Jadakiss [71:20]: "Sometimes everybody delusional."
Fat Joe [72:14]: "We want to thank our guests coming through. Drink champs, DJ EFN, my brother Nori."
They also touch upon collaborations with influential figures like Nas and Jay-Z, highlighting the intersection of music, business, and personal branding.
Timestamp: [75:32] – [74:37]
As the episode draws to a close, N.O.R.E., Fat Joe, and Jadakiss share final thoughts on unity, loyalty, and the importance of supporting one another in the music industry. They express gratitude towards each other and their listeners, reinforcing the themes of brotherhood and collective growth.
Jadakiss [73:56]: "I look at the floor. Shout out, booby trap."
N.O.R.E. [74:02]: "We love you."
Their heartfelt exchange underscores the enduring bonds between them and sets a positive tone for future collaborations.
This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers an unfiltered glimpse into the lives and minds of N.O.R.E., Fat Joe, and Jadakiss. From addressing past controversies and personal struggles to celebrating cultural milestones and planning future ventures, the conversation is both engaging and enlightening. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of the challenges and triumphs these artists face, all while highlighting the importance of integrity, community, and resilience in the ever-changing landscape of the music industry.
Note: All timestamps correspond to moments within the transcript provided and are referenced for illustrative purposes.