Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss ADDRESS Joe talking over guests, French Montana's "All The Way Up" story & J. Cole

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd: “Joe and Jada”

Fat Joe & Jadakiss Address Podcast Critiques, French Montana & J. Cole, Hip-Hop Commentary, and More

Episode Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Fat Joe (“Joe Crack”) & Jadakiss
Theme: Two rap legends dive into the realities of the music and podcast industries, address public critiques, discuss J. Cole’s legacy, share personal and business stories, examine inflated numbers in hip hop, and riff on everything from sports to AI’s cultural impact—with signature raw humor and candor.

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1. Main Theme and Purpose

This episode is an unfiltered, humorous, and sometimes poignant exploration of the current hip-hop landscape, the dynamics behind the “Joe and Jada” podcast, and the realities behind success—whether it’s streaming numbers, legacy, or friendship. The core of the episode revolves around Fat Joe responding to criticism about “talking too much” on the show, as well as reflecting on hip hop, industry, and life beyond the music.

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2. Key Discussion Points and Insights

a. Fat Joe’s Storytelling & “Talking Over Guests” Critique

• Opening Address: Joe jokes about being told he “talks too much on the show,” with Kiss setting the tone for a candid, “spicy” conversation.
  • Fat Joe: “They say, Joe, you talk too much on the show.” [00:00]
  • Jadakiss: “I might need a shot or something right now. It's about to get spicy.” [00:06]
• Reflection on Roles: Joe and Jada debate their podcast chemistry, with Joe suggesting he drives the conversation because Jada is more reserved.
  • “Before this podcast, your own fans ain’t really know your personality like that because you don’t talk much... So I felt like, yo, I gotta drive this bitch.” – Fat Joe [22:54]
• Meta Podcasting: Joe resists corporate pressure to “fix” what works, citing success and authenticity.
  • “We number one. You don’t tell me what to do. It’s impossible.” – Fat Joe [27:47]

b. Inflated Industry Numbers, Streaming & Authenticity

• Skepticism on Hip-Hop Wealth Headlines: Joe questions artists’ claims of massive sales and earnings.
  • “Is these numbers real? ...I be hearing other guys get...crazy money...I know it’s inflated.” – Fat Joe [01:22]
• Pre-Saves & Bots: Joe doubts million pre-saves without widespread radio play, referencing ASAP Rocky.
  • “Somebody said, bots this, that. I don’t know...For a motherfucker to move units like that, I got to hear some shit on the radio all day. He got to be pandemonium.” – Fat Joe [03:04]
• Catalog Sales: Joe and Jada reflect on the importance of securing one’s musical legacy and protecting family wealth.
  • “If I die, I want to feel good and say to myself, yo, I know I left my family enough money. If they blow it, that’s their problem.” – Fat Joe [06:12]

c. J. Cole, The Big Three & Hip-Hop Rivalry

• J. Cole’s Place in Rap: Jadakiss praises Cole’s new project and bars; Joe questions his status in the “big three” after recent public rap rivalries.
  • “Do we look at him the same being that they screwed his head off the big three?” – Fat Joe [04:03]
  • “Here, it’s bars. All of that shit don’t matter. He’s coming crazy.” – Jadakiss [04:07]
• Why “Coming Outside” Matters: Joe emphasizes the importance of confronting challenges and beef, making a boxing yard analogy.
  • “When you talking all that gangster shit and they call you to the yard and you don’t step outside, I can’t look at you.” – Fat Joe [06:52]
  • “He bowed out gracefully...We come from all call outs.” – Jadakiss [08:43]

d. Knicks, Basketball Commentary, and Sports Culture

• The duo talks Knicks injuries, player backgrounds, and the prevalence of African players on international teams.
  • “These guys discombobulated the Knicks last night.” – Fat Joe [10:23]
  • Extended riff on Precious Achiuwa’s background and sports recruiting. [10:39–12:14]
• Sports as life: Giannis’s loyalty to Milwaukee and the harsh Midwest winters. [12:17–14:14]

e. On Personal Struggles, Resilience & Mental Health

• Joe Shares About Loss and Depression: Losing close ones led to depression, but he advocates for positivity.
  • “The safety you lose for losing loved ones is devastating...But you have to find a way to look towards the light.” – Fat Joe [61:42]
  • “It was overwhelming for me...That’s the first time in my life that niggas try to play with me.” [62:43]
• Advice for Moving Forward: “Try to stay in the light and in the positive...You’re not earning no type of equity...with being depressed...” – Fat Joe [64:30]

f. Culture Industry Insights: French Montana, “All the Way Up” Story

• Addressing online rumors and business ethics—credibly, Joe challenges misconceptions about his dealings with French Montana, explaining the breakdown of song credits and publishing.
  • “Some people got it misconstrued...for you to tell your lawyer to fix it and give him some percentage right there, that’s solid. That never goes on since this game started.” – Jadakiss [52:21]
  • “French didn’t even write the hook...But I gave it [publishing] to him because when he asked, that shit unforgettable...I believe in everybody winning.” – Fat Joe [53:20–53:49]

g. Hip-Hop Breakups & What-Could-Have-Been

• The worst split in hip-hop history? Joe believes it’s 50 Cent & The Game.
  • “They could have ran it up...That was the new emergence of Snoop and Dre...Classic.” – Fat Joe [73:19]

h. On AI Deepfakes, Image & Trust

• The hazards of deepfakes and AI scams, even referencing Matt Barnes rumors.
  • “Everything on there right now is AI...AI is risky business right now.” – Fat Joe [60:23–60:44]

i. America’s Socio-Political Climate

• Fat Joe critiques ICE raids and the militarization of immigration enforcement, noting shifts in political support and the role of influencers like Joe Rogan.
  • “Joe Rogan got the biggest following in the world... They actually said that when Joe Rogan co-signed Trump, he got all the middle-aged men in America...He tilt the scale of justice.” – Fat Joe [67:40]
  • “America’s in a scary, scary place...Police is fighting the Fed office.” – Fat Joe [70:44–71:04]

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3. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Success & Haters:
  “The competition, they love in this show, this episode. They like, yes. Stop that. He’s a freight train moving.” – Fat Joe [39:17]
• On Friendships & Loyalty:
  “All the same dudes. I forgive them two times in a row when I went broke. We in the club, we loving it. Walking out...I might be doing less. My high blood pressure must have been on 10...I turn around to walk away. Remy turned around...‘None of y’all niggas come around us no more. It’s over for y’all.’” – Fat Joe [50:53]
• On Mental Health and Grief:
  “You’re not doing nothing by making yourself feel terrible, sad, worse...You gotta look towards the peace, whatever makes you happy. Once you fall that way, it’s too hard to dig out.” – Fat Joe [61:42]
• On Hip-Hop Currency and Loyalty:
  “The best life in the world. If we fell the fuck off the most, we could make us $5,000 a show, five of them a week, you still living in a nice house, getting to the bag.” – Fat Joe [45:46]
• On Podcast Formula:
  “This ain’t your normal dinosaur podcast. This shit is like a fucking sitcom. It’s like the honeymoon in Sanford and Son. We got all shit going on here. People in tune. They’re loving me.” – Fat Joe [25:24]
• On Positive Content vs. Negativity:
  “Niggas want controversy. When you look at these podcasts, everybody’s dissing your mother...We chose to be the Harriet Tubman to the game.” – Fat Joe [35:16–35:42]
• Jadakiss, as “straight man”:
  “When we started the podcast, it was supposed to be sports. And this, that, this, that. Your word again...It turned into...whatever you saying took in effect, because...I’m the co. Let me tell you with you that I’m not. I don’t play with the ledge. You like the ledge.” – Jadakiss [23:36]
• Comedy & Chemistry:
  Kiss playfully calling Joe out on “cutting him off” with the same stories:
  “You can cut me off all day, you just can’t cut me off with the same story.” – Jadakiss [21:53]

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4. Important Timestamps

• Fat Joe addresses “talking too much”: [00:00–01:00]
• On inflated industry numbers and streaming: [01:20–03:44]
• J. Cole and Big Three discussion/bar standards: [04:03–06:54]
• Catalog sales and legacy: [06:54–08:14]
• On friendship, betrayal, and bouncing back: [45:46–51:40]
• Podcast format, critiques, and why positivity matters: [21:42–27:47]; [34:15–36:14]
• French Montana “All The Way Up” business story: [52:18–54:44]
• AI & deepfake dangers: [59:44–60:44]
• Society & ICE/Immigration commentary: [67:38–71:04]
• On the worst breakups in hip hop: [72:36–74:10]

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5. Additional Notable Segments

• NBA banter on Jalen Brunson and the Knicks: [10:03–13:52]
• Commentary on Ja Morant and athlete environments: [15:25–16:25]
• Shout-outs to Teyana Taylor and Harlem pride: [19:04–20:52]
• Closing with gifts, jewelry, and gratitude: [74:44–75:53]

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6. Style & Tone

The conversation is freewheeling, sometimes combative, always sharp—a classic blend of streetwise humor, introspection, and industry inside baseball. Fat Joe is effusive, vulnerable, and unapologetic, while Jadakiss provides dry, grounded counterpoints and sly comedic timing.

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7. Summary

For listeners who want insight into how hip-hop operates beneath the surface—financially, culturally, and personally—this episode delivers. From dissecting J. Cole’s place in the rap pantheon to reflecting on trust, loyalty, and the real meaning of longevity, Fat Joe and Jadakiss keep it real, funny, and heartfelt, reminding their audience that, at the end of the day, it’s about authenticity—on and off the mic.

Transcript

[Fat Joe]

But I knew what they was going to talk to me about. They say, joe, you talk too much on the show.

[Jadakiss]

I might need a shot or something right now. It's get. We about. It's about to get spicy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

What up, y'? All? It's your boy, Joe. Crack the dawn. Know who it is?

[Jadakiss]

Your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. Most iconic. And the most legendary is when we don't have a guest.

[Fat Joe]

That's what Hope said. You say he curbed us. You know, I never asked him to do the show yet or not.

[Jadakiss]

Save yourself a favor.

[Fat Joe]

Do myself a favor.

[Jadakiss]

Don't do it.

[Fat Joe]

Save a little piece for later.

[Jadakiss]

Save a little piece.

[Fat Joe]

I see what you said that Nori was like laughing in the comments that he know this guy is the curve king when it comes to doing podcasts and all that. I think I might. I think I might have a step up. I don't know. I think I could do it. I feel like I could do it. Sometimes when it's some shit I feel like I can't do, I'll be real with myself and be like, yo, I can't pull it off, but I think I could do it.

[Jadakiss]

I hope you can.

[Fat Joe]

What's up with these inflated numbers, right? Listen, people out there, it's great to be inspired, right? But when you see people with these numbers, like, is these numbers real? Because I feel like I get to the bag, right? And everything about me says I get to the bag. There's no bullshit. You come to my crib and shit is a palace. You see what I drive? You see what I wear on my wrist. You see it's no illusion. And I'm a crackhead compared to these numbers. I be hearing other guys get. I'm not talking about. I'm just saying the general. You could see headlines, yo, such and such. 200 million. This guy's making 30 million a year. This guy. I don't see it. I don't see the. I don't see the residue. No, I don't think. I know it's inflated. I know these numbers is probably some shit, yo, 10 year plan, hopefully something hap. This ain't real, man. Every time I turn around, I hear about somebody else getting crazy money. And every time me and you come around them, we smoking them on every level. So I don't know what. And I know I'm not getting that kind of money. That kind of money. These inflated numbers. Why did I even think about that behind the scenes, something we was talking about, something we was just like, oh, yeah. They said, asap. Rocky sold a billion records before pre save. Somebody said, bots this, that. I don't know. I just don't know. I know he got a cult following, but that's more than a cult. That's a nation of people. A million people that download the thing. God bless him. He's a beautiful guy.

[Jadakiss]

But different, though. He different.

[Fat Joe]

He doing a million pre orders different. It's a pre save is what they call it on Spotify. It lets fans auto add an upcoming album or single to their Spotify library the moment it goes live. My thing is you see anticipation because I don't know, somebody strike me if I'm dead. Or Lightning Rod. And I'm not trying to single out. I really even wasn't even talking about six strike me if I'm dead. But I have a feeling for a motherfucker to move units like that, I got to hear some shit on the radio all day. He got to be pandemonium. It ain't just, yo, I'm coming out with a slow leaker and you sell a million on the first day.

[Jadakiss]

Some shit shout out to J. Cole. He used. He got project coming out called the fall off. And he got a mixtape where he used some of the locks. He rhymed over money, power, respect. Indie round over cannot live. Killed them shits. So Cole is coming back in a major way.

[Fat Joe]

Do we look at him the same being that they screwed his head off the big three?

[Jadakiss]

Here is bars, all of that shit don't matter. He's coming crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something, man. They screwed his head off the big three. Is he in the big three?

[Jadakiss]

I don't like that terminology, so give me a pass. But they better screw his shit back on.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something. No matter what you call it in your biggest heyday, no matter what you.

[Jadakiss]

Call about the music, you going off the Internet.

[Fat Joe]

Let me now. I'm not going off the Internet. Pause.

[Jadakiss]

Got to go back on where I'm.

[Fat Joe]

Talking about hip hop, right? So what I'm saying to you is, you guys were fucking miniature compared to 50 cent just sold 30 million records. You went. Adam, you went to the yard with.

[Jadakiss]

The Swan during your own question.

[Fat Joe]

What's that?

[Jadakiss]

He could sell 100 million. The bars and the power, the people in the street made all of that shit irrelevant.

[Fat Joe]

He didn't come outside to Jada.

[Jadakiss]

It's all in the music. You talking about knocking him out the park and this and that and that and this.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta hear it.

[Jadakiss]

He got some shit. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

Are you ever thinking of selling your catalog?

[Jadakiss]

I think about it every day.

[Fat Joe]

Well, I got the buyers. I got the buyers. You want me to do that? I could do that for you. Get you super rich real quick. Security. You know what happens? People take advantage. This is my logic. God forbid, something happens. Car accident, Jada kid, the locks die, niggas is going on tour or something. The van flips over. Somebody that your wives think that you really trusted, that you love, and this and this. They come over and say, well, you know, we can help. We could get you $8 million. And your wife is like, 8 million. Meanwhile, they're going to get 26 million for this shit, 36 million for it. Me, I want to secure that. You know what I'm saying? If I die, I want to feel good and say to myself, yo, I know I left my family enough money. Now, if they blow enough money, that's their problem. And I wake up every day, like, eat my scrambled eggs and be like, if y' all blow it, that's on y'. All. That's not me. Don't be walking around here talking about, I ain't leave you shit, or I ain't take care of the family. But that's what I think is important about the catalog, is because you know business. And y' all gonna do the right business, and y' all gonna sell your shit for the right price. But if you pass away and your wife don't know what's going on, it's gonna be somebody that you told her you trust that's gonna sit down and be like, yo, you know what? I could get y' all 8 million, 9 million, and the shit really worth 30 million.

[Jadakiss]

I don't think K'll do that.

[Fat Joe]

No, K ain't the guy. No, K ain't the guy. K ain't the guy. It's gonna be an industry guy that you always respected that's gonna sit down and be like, listen, guys, I could take care of you, get you 9 million. 9 million off the cloud. Sounds like a big number. Meanwhile, these getting 27 million. That's why I suggest you should do it. That's just my opinion. You can't wait to let people play with your family. You know what I'm saying? But the numbers is inflated. We back at the numbers is inflated. We moving on. Oh, you said j. Cole. I don't look at him the same. He ain't come outside. Sometimes you tell me, Joe you want the 100 million, this, that. You gotta say the truth. I don't look him the same. The fucking sword is dull. I don't care what he spit because I've been listening to him spitting. I always said he's one of the greatest. And all that is irrelevant to me. When you talking all that gangster shit and they call you to the yard and you don't step outside, I can't look at you. That's like you seeing the dude who they always told you and you know, you always thought he was tough. And you see some other kingpin nigga, some smack his cheek off, and the nigga, my bad, and walk off. I'm keeping it a buck with you. That's how I look at this music, man.

[Jadakiss]

The music is great.

[Fat Joe]

I don't give a fuck if you lose. I never forget Everlasting. Eminem. Everlast definitely knew he couldn't beat Eminem, but he came outside to the yard. He came outside. And so that's just how I look at it. Big up J. Cole, the whole crew, North Carolina and all that. But he caught stage fright. Supposed to come outside, man. He did.

[Jadakiss]

He didn't, man.

[Fat Joe]

All right?

[Jadakiss]

He bowed out gracefully. But I don't never mean he wasn't. I mean, we come from all call outs.

[Fat Joe]

What they say in the Game of Thrones, what they say? The north never forgets. Remember when the Starks come, they go, the north never forgets.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You're not waiting six months to let the smoke clear, to come back outside and talk legendary and all that. Like, it's like the north never forgets.

[Jadakiss]

Into that. He just ended what he into coming from you. Shit is crazy.

[Fat Joe]

You go to war. Jadakiss go to war. Jadakiss go to war. The locks go to war. I'm a J. Cole fan. I'm just telling you, they don't hit me as tough, you know what I'm saying? If Fat Joe talking all that. Fat Joe the gangster. There's a video of me getting my face smacked off. You ain't going to hear Flo Joe the same. You going to be like, man. And that was your face smacked off in public. Was like, yo said, no, I rescinded. I'm coming back. I'm. No, no, no. I didn't mean it. You know when you riding bike and then you do the pedal backwards? The pedals backwards. That's what he did. He rolled back, brother. You know when the fucking 10 speed going, tick, tick, tick, tick. Yo, you know when you hear this shit? No, no, you hear the tick, tick, the tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. You know when you sit going. Yeah. But when you roll that shit back with the metal pedals and that scrape up your shins.

[Jadakiss]

Kill you.

[Fat Joe]

Oof.

[Jadakiss]

All right, let's talk about Jalen Brunson.

[Fat Joe]

What about Jalen Brunson? He got sprung. We don't know how real it is. I was at Dr. Rock. Dr. Brock is the Knicks foot doctor. He ain't hear nothing. Nobody rushed Jalen Brunson to him and all that.

[Jadakiss]

I think it's a couple games.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, I hope so.

[Jadakiss]

He rolled his ankle with a few games.

[Fat Joe]

These guys discombobulated the Knicks last night. I stood up to one something. They got rocked. When I say Rock Precious a Chua. That's an old classic. You traded me?

[Jadakiss]

He gave the next work.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, he gave them not work. I think he from up your way. He from Westchester. One million percent precious. Detour lives. And he grew up in Westchester from Africa. Google, James, he's from Westchester.

[Jadakiss]

I don't know about that.

[Fat Joe]

Well, he gave them.

[Jadakiss]

I never heard of him until he got on the Knicks.

[Fat Joe]

God forbid he lost three or four baskets. That nigga had like 20 something. Thank God he missed four. He was killing them. Total destruction.

[Jadakiss]

Where he from? Two time felony from Westchester. How you forget that?

[Fat Joe]

But the Bronx is know that. Let me tell you something. That guy's from up there. He's from like Scarsdale and all that. I'm telling you, he's from up Westchester.

[Jadakiss]

He played for the Knicks.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm telling you what the Fluidity King says that Clyde Frazer be like from Westchester from. He was born in Nigeria. There you go. Let me ask you something. If Spain, Africa. Let me ask you a question. Have you seen many black Spanish Spain From Europe, Spain. Have you seen many black Spanish Spain, yo? No.

[Jadakiss]

Why the fuck have you seen many black Spaniards?

[Fat Joe]

Why is the whole Spain soccer team black? They all from, like, Nigeria, Africa. They import them and be like, yo, he's playing for Spain. They're not really Spanish or French or. It's all of them, like Giannis the Greek the Freak week. The freak is African.

[Jadakiss]

Greek with the freak through the dun.

[Fat Joe]

Greek the freak started crying the other day. Greek the freak, he went out.

[Jadakiss]

I got. This is contagious, man. What? The free.

[Fat Joe]

He's Greek the free. I'm saying it wrong.

[Jadakiss]

They was booing them.

[Fat Joe]

Then he went like this and Tupacuco.

[Jadakiss]

This thing's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, let me tell you something, Fry. If I brought the only championship to a town in 50 years or some shit like that. And you booing me, I'm going to feel a certain way. Not only that, give a fuck what you heard. Milwaukee is a tough way of life. When Giannis said, yo, I'm staying in Milwaukee, nobody believed that, right? You was like, yo, he should be. That's like, yo, listen, man.

[Jadakiss]

They gave him enough money to buy a village. You would have stayed there, too?

[Fat Joe]

No, I would have stood. You know, I'm in New York. Like, I'm in the. Like, I'm in the.

[Jadakiss]

Like you.

[Fat Joe]

Like, I'm one of the monks walking for peace. I'm a Miami body already. My. I'm cold for no reason. I'm in the house with this heat on 80. I can't. With this. I don't care how many puffers I got or whatever the. Is this cold out here? The cold is inside. I don't know if y' all understand. I'm cold, and I got a family that don't want to put the heat on.

[Jadakiss]

Oh, you got the house like mine. They like to. They like it cold. Like it hot.

[Fat Joe]

No, they want it cold.

[Jadakiss]

They want it cold.

[Fat Joe]

I can't get no hot. How about I pay the bills and I still can't get heat? I gotta walk around with, like, a blanket and like, Charlie Brown. What's the guy. Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown always got the blanket. One of them. Oh, that's Linus.

[Jadakiss]

That's Linus.

[Fat Joe]

I'm like Linus in the house. I gotta take a shower with a blanket. I gotta take a shower with a blanket. Pete, this shit.

[Jadakiss]

Come on, dog.

[Fat Joe]

They don't want the heat.

[Jadakiss]

Take a shower with a blanket.

[Fat Joe]

They don't want the heat. I'm sitting there, I go like this. The other day, my wife tells me. She says, for the first time in the history of mankind, she says, it's hot in here, right? I looked at us. It's hot. She said, it's hot in here. I said, well, you do know they have buttons right behind you that'll make. Make this warm. If you press the button, it won't be cold, yo, because somebody please help me, man. Yeah, but you know what it is, Joe? Especially with the wives. You know why they always hot? Menopause, Menopausal. There's I'm dealing with. Menopause is real, guys. Menopause is real. Hot flashes, all that shit is real. Damn. Two times a fella came out with a duffel bag of flags. He. He. He feel like this shit about to go flagrant. He like, yo, I'm a felon, man. Two times the felon. Brought out a million flags.

[Jadakiss]

How you feel about John Rent?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, what you want me to feel about John?

[Jadakiss]

I think he need. He need a fresh start.

[Fat Joe]

One billion percent, he needs a fresh start. But the problem. Maybe they should send him Miami as a gun state. He have a legal gun. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you right now, you know your kids better than anybody in the world. If you living somewhere where they're going to give two years to your son no matter what for the gun, move your ass to Atlanta, Miami, somewhere where the guns is legal. I got friends with 100 machine guns in Miami.

[Jadakiss]

What, they're going to kill them?

[Fat Joe]

Kill them?

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Your son walking around with a gun in New York City where Johnny Cochran.

[Jadakiss]

So this solution, Lil Wayne get time, send him to Beirut where everybody got guns.

[Fat Joe]

That's fat.

[Jadakiss]

Nah, that ain't good.

[Fat Joe]

I got a cousin. I'm going to keep it real with you. I never looked at life like this. I got a cousin. And I love you, cuz. I'm not going to say your name for this one, because this is crazy. Hey, I'm sitting in the car now. I'm sitting in the car. My cousin, great guy, he been. He went to Iraq and Afghanistan four times. This guy FaceTimed me like, cuz I'd be like, yeah, he's corporal major Jonathan did. Like, yo, he bit the juice. He is in the military. He. He's in the military. He's serving this country with a smile on his face. Corporal like, you know, you would say Michael Jordan or Reggie Jackson. Major Jonathan Wilkins, like, he believed that hype. They brainwashed him to death. But I'm with him. One day I said, yo. I said, yo, cuz, you've been in the fucking army for like 12 years. People do four years and get out of there. He said, cuz I like to kill. I look, I never looked at it like that, right? So you think of all these guys playing video games. Night Forked and all that. This guy actually.

[Jadakiss]

Night Fork, throw them shits. He called it Night Fork.

[Fat Joe]

You called it two time. A fella you should tell who's gonna win the Miami game. Cause he brought the flags out. Them shits coming from yonder. Night Fort Fort. Yo, what is the name of the game?

[Jadakiss]

Fortnite, man.

[Fat Joe]

Fortnite. I don't know. Listen, you do. Is it. You could. Let me tell you something. Kids could take that a step. They could. They could take that a step further. They join the army and kill my cousin dead ass told me that. Yo, it was chilling, all right? I got the nicest cousin in the world. I sat with him. I see your cuz. Don't you think you press your luck? He really went out there to war four times. Afghanistan, Iraq. I'm not lying to you, my little cousin. And the man say, your cuz I like to kill. I said. I looked at him. Goosebumps. I was like, think about it. That's legal killing, right? I guess that's why they can't adjust when they get back here, walking through Walmart and like that, a car honked the horn. Like, you killing out there. And now you come back here and your daughter's like, she got a dance recital. Them niggas just fried, yo.

[Jadakiss]

A dance recital?

[Fat Joe]

Yes. They want you to kill, then come back here and act like, let's talk.

[Jadakiss]

About too much killing. Let's talk about. Let's give LaPree a pre round of applause. Teyana Taylor brought home that. That supporting actor going forward.

[Fat Joe]

That was so big.

[Jadakiss]

That was huge. That was very big for Harlem, big for hip hop, big for New York big. Just. That was it. That was a grand moment for her family. I got on that remix of that song she played on Joe and Jada on the deluxe album is coming out. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

He did it.

[Jadakiss]

They duct taped her to a rocket ship. She about to be. She fucking.

[Fat Joe]

I know what's crazy is they think I capped. But she was here. She confirmed. I know her since she's 10 years old. She knew who she was going to be and what she was going to be. And we meet kids all the time. You never met a kid like this. She used to come to the Rucker when I coach in a fucking bike dressed like a tomboy. And she be like, yo, Joe, introduce me to Pharrell. I'm gonna be the biggest in the game. Yo, Joe. I like that Rick. And I'm like from 10 years old. And so when she wins the speech the other. When she wins the thing the other day, I'm watching and she goes, oh, my God, my babies. That shit hit me a different way because she got babies. Like, I really. I look at teyana Taylor, like 10 year old, like I might be bugged out. Like, I look at her like, oh, my niece, whatever. When she said her babies, it made me realize she's a grown ass fucking woman with kids. And so to see the 360the full circle moment is crazy.

[Jadakiss]

And we need that in the podcast category.

[Fat Joe]

That's bullshit. Listen, I know how this shit was.

[Jadakiss]

Never getting nominated for that.

[Fat Joe]

So don't even think I know how the shit work, though. Kiss. He's starting today to push for it. Push for what?

[Jadakiss]

Even if we get noticed. Guess what, bro?

[Fat Joe]

They do a hip hop category. They can pick in Rory and Mao out of here, man. We don't been through the. Ok, we don't been through that. We know what this is. Can't with matter of fact, let's talk about some, right? Some people call me from the bat phone, the red phone. They said you was going to talk to me. You ain't talk to me, but I knew what they was going to talk to me about. They say, joe, you talk too much on the show.

[Jadakiss]

I might need a shot or something right now. It's about to get spicy.

[Fat Joe]

Do you feel like that? That I talk too much?

[Jadakiss]

You want to hear?

[Fat Joe]

No, I want to hear what you got to say.

[Jadakiss]

The problem is you cut me off and you cut me off while we trying to fix the problem. You know, we the. We the number one targeted right now. Know what I'm saying? You always say to yourself, they can't fuck with us. We the biggest. We this. We this. That, this. That's what I stole off you. That, this, this. That's your. That, this, this. You can cut me off all day, you just can't cut me off with the same story. But I made him make you a thing. You got about a ten clipper of you saying that I gotta bring it to you before somebody else, before they try to use it against us.

[Fat Joe]

Stories is legendary.

[Jadakiss]

I just watch Apocalypto. That was the big pun.

[Fat Joe]

Just shut you down. That was the big punch on. All the lights on.

[Jadakiss]

I'm glad you told me, but I got you.

[Fat Joe]

You finished?

[Jadakiss]

Go ahead.

[Fat Joe]

Okay. You clear? We started this podcast. Okay? I knew it would work. Jadakiss, before this podcast, your own fans ain't really know your personality like that because you don't talk much. I still don't, but let me talk. Fuck you. I'm throwing the flag cause you blaming me for some shit you doing right now.

[Jadakiss]

Being quiet.

[Fat Joe]

All right, so you ain't like to talk. So I felt like, yo, I gotta drive this bitch. I don't think I knew or anybody knew how fucking you are.

[Jadakiss]

I'm cutting you off. When we started the podcast, it was supposed to be sports. And this, that, this, that. Your word again. It turned into you came on. I want to smoke a whole geographic of the podcast change. Then whatever you saying took in effect, because I, I, I'm the co. Let me tell you with you that I'm not. I don't play with the ledge. You like the ledge?

[Fat Joe]

Now I gotta touch the third route. Yeah, the thing is, I gotta touch the third. Well, the thing is, you're not letting me talk. Okay, how about that? Another way we got to this.

[Jadakiss]

That's how we got it.

[Fat Joe]

Another flag on the play. Let me say something. You, Jada. At first he was like, yo, Jada, gotta talk. They was giving me the other side of it. Say, who gives a fuck? We're the number one podcast in the game. I got the empirical data. Everybody can lie about what they want to talk about. The inflated numbers. I got the fucking empirical. Google that. Empirical data. I got it. Only guy with more views, only guy with more views than us, if we keeping this shit a buck is Shannon Sharp. And it's Shannon Sharp because he had fucking Cat Williams go up there and do 100 million with canon. Cat Williams decided to crash. The fuck? That's the Hudson plane, like with the shit Cat Williams did. That nigga took that shit to a whole decimal point. Cool. We right behind him. Everybody else is way behind us. Everybody. Rookie of the year. I don't give a fuck what you want. I got the numbers. We make something out of nothing. God bless us. People love this show. This ain't your normal dinosaur podcast. This shit is like a fucking sitcom. It's like the honeymoon in Sanford and Son. We got all shit going on here. People in tune. They're loving me. Sometimes when we got guests that don't have that fluidity. Because I don't know why some people do the podcast or do interviews, not just mine. They come here like they. Somebody forced them to come here. And I got to get something out of them. So I got to tell a story to make them feel comfortable, to do whatever the fuck I could do on earth for these motherfuckers to talk, right? With that being said, we're the number one podcast in hip hop culture.

[Jadakiss]

I don't know.

[Fat Joe]

Okay, listen.

[Jadakiss]

You got the Imperial.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no. What I didn't realize is that shout out to the staff. Because you clip, you do everything, you produce it well. But this shit is our shit. The shit we talking, we put. I don't know about you. I said it halfway. Now you fucked you with Fat Joe. You always with Fat Joe. At first, you could have got out of here and still be there. Now you, you guilty by association. You fucked you all the way. Locked in. But at First I'm telling all these stories, clowning myself, Glizzy. This, this, that, this, this, this, this, this. I'm not the same Fat Joe. That's why you see niggas playing with me in the dirty section. Like they think, oh, he's rich, he's a nice guy. These guys wouldn't fucking. They couldn't clean my socks. So I go like this, all right, cool. I'm doing whatever. So we could do exactly what we doing. The number one rated show. We got the biggest deal at fucking Netflix. We good to go. The point is, what you not realize is the last time I dealt with corporate America is the time when I put out an album and I sell 2 million records and a white nigga comes with me to accept award that I never met in my life who told me he A and R the album. He did. Cardi B wins the award, some dude she never met in her life goes stand next to her at the Grammys and takes the credit. We call that Monday morning Quarterback. Now we got the biggest show. We flying. Yeah, Fat Joe talks too much. Yeah, he cuts niggas off. We know that. He has a problem with that. Yes, I know that. You want me to fucking lie to you? I know I have a problem. The problem is. The problem is it's working.

[Jadakiss]

Talk your shit.

[Fat Joe]

So now you get some white nigga from Seattle or Washington state who know what's the biggest shit we got under our shit. Yo, Joe and Jada, they going to Netflix. They the biggest this. And I want a Monday morning quarterback and tell a guy to stop talking and let me produce this this way and direct. Who the fuck are you, nigga? We number one. You don't tell me what to do. It's impossible.

[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

You don't tell me what to do. Listen, guys, I could take the show on the road, pack this up and quit the podcast game. I don't give a But you one thing you're not going to do as I let them do that shit to me we talked about the other day. I fucking manufactured the number one record. I hate that shit. I don't even want to perform it. But you know, they gasped. Get a number one that we went and did the most corny shit. Shit went number one. But these guys know how to come and start trying to change shit. And I had something to say with it and this man, get the fuck out of here. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yes, America, I have a problem. But let me tell you what it is. They call me one of the greatest storytellers of all time. My audience, my original audience, is my projects. I used to stay up every summer day to six in the morning talking shit. Thirty of us girls, guys, we just telling stories. That's how I learned how to storytell. Cause I gotta invent shit. We dead broke. We in the projects. We gotta invent stories. We gotta this and this and that's. So the way I tell A story is I could look at you in the dark room and I gotta have you there. What Chico did now, what Tashim did now, what did. I gotta make you be present at the story, right? So I'm giving you this whole story, then. It's all timing. The reason why this show is timing, your humor is incredible. Humor. I call you Grady cause you one of the niggas you. You say some. I get it. On the way home, I don't even catch your. While we shooting, I go home and watch the replay. And the man is sniping everything. Oh, my God. This guy's killing me, right? This, that. So the point is, we got the biggest deal. Nobody ever been in the podcast game for six months and went and got a deal with Netflix. Nobody ever had every guest. You ever thought we turning down the biggest people every day, begging to come on the show, right? So I know that somebody want to fuck this up. Somebody want to come in and say, change the energy, the direction of where you're going. Yo, you want me to be. You want me to try one or two weeks not saying nothing. Fat Joe on the side like this.

[Jadakiss]

James.

[Fat Joe]

Mr. Producer, do you want me to try to do. I want you to try to give. Shut the fuck up, Fat Joe. Just here. I'm here. Thank you for your money. I don't want you to just shut the. Fat Joe like this. I want you to give a lane to the guests that are here. Think about it like a feature on a song. You featured on a song. You want someone singing over your verse. Do you know what happens to me, by the way? The guests ain't saying that. The guests love it. They come here, they know I'm crazy. They know I'm 7:30. Let me tell you something.

[Jadakiss]

I gotta go to the.

[Fat Joe]

So you leaving me talk by myself. I'm waiting for you. Then Jada kiss on some. Let me tell you something, you awesome. This is gonna do numbers, huh? This segment's gonna do numbers, by the way, this segment's gonna do numbers. They all do numbers. They all do. Oh, this one's gonna do numbers. They all do. You hear that? You hear that, nephew? Yo, yo. You hear that, nephew? This. We're gonna do numbers, huh? What the fuck? Y' all think we do numbers by mistake? No, of course. It's a miracle. I know. What the fuck going on out there? Y' all got me up. I captivate the audience.

[Jadakiss]

You know what?

[Fat Joe]

I gotta go to the bathroom too. Oh, you gotta go. And the whole team is quitting. They Boycotting right now. The whole set is gone. I don't give a. Guys, I'll take that from you. Two Time the fellas. I'll take that from you. I take that from you because you one of us. So when my man named Two Time a felon said, yo, Joe, just chill. But let me tell you what happens to me. I wanted to say it in front of Jada. The shit that fucks me up, right, is this is a show that we are trying to do the impossible. Being positive, Giving flowers, and uplifting the culture. That is not where society is. When you watch the news, the first 20 minutes is who got killed? Who got stabbed on the train? Who beat up a conductor? Who killed the bodega? Man, this. Niggas want controversy. When you look at these podcasts, everybody's dissing your mother.

[Jadakiss]

You're.

[Fat Joe]

This, this, this, this. They feel like that's the only way to bring the views up. We even got my brothers doing rap battles over podcasts and shit, right? So everybody feel like the way to the promised land is everybody dissing each other. All right, Kiss. Unfortunately, me and you.

[Jadakiss]

Let's go.

[Fat Joe]

Chose to be the Harriet Tubman to the game.

[Jadakiss]

What the fuck?

[Fat Joe]

You not listening? We the Underground Railroad. We are here to preserve the culture. We are here to give people flowers. We are here to do this positive. I don't know if you turned around. Nobody wins. Positive. That's why when you watch the news, they be like, 10 people killed today. You watch all these other rap, hip hop podcasts. They got you believing that they got to diss each other and diss people and doing all that to get leaving the dirty section. No, they ain't the dirty section.

[Jadakiss]

But I'm telling you that the same thing you saying is what you doing to the dirty section.

[Fat Joe]

No, the dirty section.

[Jadakiss]

Let them get they back.

[Fat Joe]

No, they call my mother. Le them we not even talk. You want me to leave the dirty. All right, I'll leave them alone.

[Jadakiss]

Let them get their.

[Fat Joe]

That's what you want me to say? Yeah, man, they love this. They feel like they get acknowledged, but acknowled them. All right, I ain't going. Don't dis the dirty section of. Okay, that's it. We move on. No more. AI no. Good morning, Vietnam. You to stop my dick. I' ma chill for kiss. I' ma chill for kiss. Listen. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That's going. Listen, yo. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you what my problem is, and y' all don't understand so we got a positive show. We going.

[Jadakiss]

I say that to follow up with. So we got a positive.

[Fat Joe]

We do. Yo, kiss. You know why you don't be in the dirty section? Them be killing me in the dirt.

[Jadakiss]

Cause you bothering them.

[Fat Joe]

They got me gay. They got me gay. They got me. I'm a rat. I'm a gay. I'm pussy. I'm a thief. I'm a. You can't even begin. Like, I've been called.

[Jadakiss]

You let all.

[Fat Joe]

Everything. And you know, I've been called everything in the game. Now, let me explain something to you, right? The problem is. This is the problem. This is the shit y' all might not understand or don't like is if I'm interviewing somebody, we already going against the grain. Cause we trying to be positive. So if I see somebody here, legend. And while I ask them a question and they speaking, I think of some shit, like, viral, that they got some. And I stop and be like, well, what about that?

[Jadakiss]

Just let them finish and then say the shit you think of. That's all we saying.

[Fat Joe]

Our feelings are hurt.

[Jadakiss]

Chris is here, about to tell us Nas, and he was in the desert.

[Fat Joe]

We got the Samoans here. This is. Yo, yo, that's my man Rocco. And Rocco, who's the wrestler? Nah. If y' all can see our crew outside, we got all the new United Nations. Who's my man Tatiki? What's the guy from home?

[Jadakiss]

This thing is wild today. I don't. You're rich. What kind of diet? What did you spike them with, dog? He's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, I'm no different than the Little. The Little. They made something out of nothing. They got to the paper. I can't tell them. The odds of you becoming successful as a rapper is one in maybe a hundred million. And when I see a young boy over there in Bugattis and like that, I'm. Even if I know what's good for him, I can't tell them nothing. Cause he made the impossible happen. But when you fuck with me and you poke the bear, I turned into the little niggas. Cause you can't tell me shit. We turned this bitch up. These guys wish. These competition, these podcasts, they loving this show. They like, please slow them down.

[Jadakiss]

They call them.

[Fat Joe]

Please talk them off and tell me.

[Jadakiss]

Tell you the truth.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you. Yo, listen. You okay? The competition, they love in this show, this episode, they like, yes. Stop that. He's a freight train moving. His guy know he's going. He says it's the. I. I Touched the third round. The algorithm, the disc. I know what it is. It's cool. Today in hip hop and culture, we're gonna be dinosaurs and follow the instructions. Today in the year 2005, Serena Williams won the get the out of Kasa not making the biggest mistake of his life. He's the number one streamer. He getting to the bag and he. I wrote something, too. I wrote a bar Jadakiss bar Kasa not. He saying he gonna leave streaming to get into fashion. I said, don't leave while you hot. That's how Mace screwed it up. Kanye west said that. Don't leave while you hot. That's how Mace screwed it up. Don't leave. You know, DJ Khaled, he ain't just become successful when he was a dj. I don't give a fuck if he had Covid the flu. He walk in that studio and he dj. He never let no other DJ DJ behind him because he said, that guy might be better than me. He costs one tenth of what I charge. You can't leave the slot and let I speed. And all them dudes run with the maiden Rosses and all them guys, they gonna take the slot. And you over here. Let's hope he know about fashion, because everybody, you know, all the ball players want to rap. Rappers want to ball player to this Master P left the game to go play baseball. Basketball niggas is the fucking crazy. Now Costa not want to do fashion. I'm not saying guys ain't the limit.

[Jadakiss]

He said he's retired.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, here's. Here's the actual. What he said he's not officially done. He's going on a hiatus. When he said he quit, he meant it more as a metaphor. He has a brand that he's trying to get going. I believe in it, and I might buy some of his clothes. What I'm saying is don't stop the bread and butter. Just like aspiring rappers out there. Keep that nine to five. Keep the a plan. If you rap and you come off and if you're making a living off of rapping, if you're streaming somebody supporting, then you're a rapper. But if you a guy that nobody's paying attention to, y' all, listen, man, you talking to the wrong guy. I got so many people I know that think they're rapping like I Yo, bro. If you ain't got a following, if you ain't got people tuning in, if you ain't got nobody telling you, by the way, you nice, this, this, that. Other than your crew, you're not professionally rapping. It's just what it is. So Kai said, nah, the biggest streamer in the world. Don't leave the bread and butter. Do I think you can have a successful clothing brand? Absolutely. I never looked at Young Thug and said, oh, I want to wear that. Whatever he's wearing. But that motherfucker's selling some clothes. Young Thug. He sells clothes. So why couldn't Kaiser not do it? I believe it.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, man.

[Fat Joe]

LeBron had the answer for Rich Paul saying trade Austin Reaves. He said the other. Remember, LeBron wasn't playing and Austin Reeves was scoring 40 points a game. Him and the other white boy. LeBron didn't say that. Rich Paul said that. Why the kid was killing before LeBron came back. It's the fucking point I made on this show.

[Jadakiss]

Listen that you shot me down. Will you listen? And everything is numbers with Luka and AR on the court is no defense. You can say whatever the fuck you want. Jared Jackson from Memphis will help the Lakers tremendously if they did that.

[Fat Joe]

Not saying about the things other than that.

[Jadakiss]

When Luca and AR is on the thing, they both gonna have 50 and 40. And they man is gonna have 60 and 90. So do you need some defense?

[Fat Joe]

I think we got one in the Knicks. Tyler Kolik, I think he's one of them. And I hope, just like Pachula bust our ass yesterday in Sacramento, I hope we don't get rid of Tyler Kolik one day and he busts everybody ass. Cause when you put him on the field, he remind me of Rondo. He see the whole court. He see the whole. All right, I know about Kolikin. Yeah. One of them joints that is one of them guys that's going to slip away and watch him light up the whole league talking about trading them.

[Jadakiss]

They ain't trading Colic.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, but they always do. They talk about trading Austin Reaves. That's our Austin Reaves. Kolik, you don't think so?

[Jadakiss]

No, he didn't. Austin Reeves, he got to do a little bit more to get be Austin Reeves right now.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no. Yes. But what I'm saying is I see flashes of it. I see flashes of it. And the problem we've always had as Nick fans is they get rid of the guy, he becomes a superstar somewhere. That's a. That's a nasty habit. Fetty Wap is home. Say he's not rapping about jail, he rapping about hits.

[Jadakiss]

He trying to knock him out the park yesterday.

[Fat Joe]

I never. Huh?

[Jadakiss]

He wants. He wants shits out the park, he ain't even with that.

[Fat Joe]

He could do it.

[Jadakiss]

He go over there.

[Fat Joe]

Kenny, he put out four number ones in America. Not the fake number ones. Not one. Not just urban, urban, rhythmic, pop. He put out four. Why was he allegedly selling drugs? I just don't understand. With a guy with four number ones on a crackhead day, you can make 25,000. I used to tell Remy all the time, I said, yo, Remy, we could make 5,000 a show. I'm telling you, at the lowest budget, I said, we could make 5,000 a show and do four or five a week. 25,000 a week. It's the best life in the world. If we fell the fuck off the most, we could make us 5,000 to show five of them a week. You still living in a nice house, Getting to the bag. Who the fuck told Fetty Wap to even be in that type of situation with four number ones on earth? You know what a number one gets you?

[Jadakiss]

Four of them.

[Fat Joe]

Horrible. Whoever was around, around them was horrible. Bad people. I suggest Fetty Wap, if you listen to me, you know I love you, brother. Don't hang around with them people. Don't get them back around you. I made the mistake two, three times, you know, I told you this. I said the story already. But this is a relevant story. Feds come take all my money. Wasn't even my fault, guys. I've done everything. The fucking accountant ain't pay the taxes. I showed him. He didn't pay the taxes. They say, you as the leader of your household are responsible for you hire. They leave me dead broke. Dead broke. Meaning I had a little, maybe 400, 500 in the bank. I'm used to EMS, right? So I'm feeling unfluidity, yo.

[Jadakiss]

Feeling unfluidity?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I'm feeling unfluidity. But the blessing and the curse of my rap career is I came out was a slow burner. Slow Joe digging in the crates. Then I knocked on out the park. I think we dug in what's love? And we driving, we flying private planes with 20 guys. Everybody got Cadillac trucks, 20 dudes, Cadillac trucks Steak and lobster. Every day I go broke. I get on my knees, I beg God because you got to really get on your knees. I get back, I keep praying to God, this, this, that I got lucky. He throws me lean back a smoker. All of a sudden, the same guys I was hanging with by you, I forgot they left me. It wasn't like K and you could. They left. All those guys left. Nephew, you gotta understand. Every Bum nigga that I fed lobster and steak every day. Bought em champagne, bought em cars, paid their rent, paid their. They all left, all of them. I come back with Lean Back. They all on the private again. Boom. Bad. They riding around with me, lobster and steak again. We did it. That's one thing motherfuckers is. Motherfuckers say we, we did it. When you sitting on your couch dead broke, praying for your phone to ring and acting like you got AIDS or some shit, they staying away from you. We do Lean Back, I go for the same mistake. We number one. They all hanging out with me. They eating lobsters, they drinking champagne. They this, this, that. How about I catch the fed case?

[Jadakiss]

It's the.

[Fat Joe]

This is really bad because I'm sitting on the couch. All I really had was Rich the barber with me on the couch, he would bring me a Haagen Dazs. Not good for diabetics. I'm telling y' all not to do it. But I would just eat a Haage like a fat boy. Stressed out. Vanilla Swiss album, one of the best ones. And so I'm up in there and I'm looking, and I got people all around, people I helped. People. This nobody called and said, can I help you, Joe? Nobody when I say nobody. Nobody came and said, when I went to jail, nobody went by my wife and said, yo, here, 10 grand for some. For the culture. The man don't pop so many bottles for us. The man and bought so many lobsters, nobody gave 5,000. My family said, here you go. In fact, while I was in jail, dead broke, I was still paying everybody's business bills, not just my family. My guys still paying their bills while I'm in jail, bro, Cool. Come back out, I'm really done. I told the story the other day. The game change. We put out all the Way Up. All the Way up plays one day on a Thursday, Friday night. Aces remember how fly that strip club was in Queens. Aces say, yo, we want to do a single release. I'm telling you now, I understood the Max V Coming home shit, right? Because New York City, although we started hip hop, they be thirsty for a win. Like a win, some type of a win. That club, one day later was on tilt. The walls are sweaty. It's so sweaty in there. The floors you sliding, walking through to your section. It was so lit in there. They was like, yes, New York got one. We're back. Like, they. They acted like that. I fight to get in my vip. Guess who's in my vip? All the dudes that didn't call me. They wasn't fucking with me. That left me for dead. They left me all the same dudes. I forgive them two times in a row when I went broke. So we in the club, we loving it. Walking out, me, Remy, lights is on. And I get to the door. And when I get to the door, I turn around, I said, pistol, Rich, Percy, all these niggas, every one of them, you, you. I left no mistake for judgment. I left nobody saying, I know you ain't talking to me, yo, yo, I was almost in convulsions. Yo, yo, like this. Just like this. I might be doing less. My high blood pressure must have been on 10. I don't want to see none of you niggas again in my life. None of you. Oh, I'm screaming in the middle of the club. I turn around to walk away. Remy turned around because Remy, you know, she more of a dude than a dude. Remy turned around like, yo, you heard the guard. None of y' all niggas come around us no more. It's over for y'.

[Jadakiss]

All.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know if Fetty Wap gonna say it the same way. Can I get a water? But the truth is, he need every bad influence away from him so he could run it up, he could get to the bag, and he could keep his bag because he went to jail. Real jail. I seen the jail pictures. He wasn't in no fucking camp. He wasn't in no. He was in jail. Jail. Like, you know what that tastes like. You don't want that shit, so you need to be focused. Big up Fetty Wap. I do believe he's going to come with another welcome Home Untitled app. You guys want me to talk about something else?

[Jadakiss]

Guys, I've been saying since after the Max and French episode, you was acting like you. Did you try to rob them or you did bad business? I'll be the first one to tell you. I did songs for mad people that blew out the water. You see them, they like, thank you, Kiss. They definitely not pulling out their phone, calling their lawyer right there, telling them, yo, give them 10%, 5%, 2%, whatever it is. So I gotta give you your props and flowers for doing that type of business, because some people got it misconstrued. Like, you could tell French wasn't really happy. Or all he was doing was telling you what happened with the song all the way up. And for you to tell your lawyer to fix it and give him some percentage right there, that's solid. That never goes on since this game started, it's that still got percentage a Sugar, Ale gang and give and they dead. They still here. So if y' all don't know about this business game, make sure they don't.

[Fat Joe]

Know about the business.

[Jadakiss]

You find out what's going on.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I think. I think they don't know about the business. What happens is I could give you one better than French. French ain't right. The hook.

[Jadakiss]

I told somebody that y' all called them in just to say y' all.

[Fat Joe]

Already had them call them. We had the hook. That's.

[Jadakiss]

I think if the people would have knew that, then there's nothing you could.

[Fat Joe]

But what happens is when the people write the hook, they the people who really deserve the publisher.

[Jadakiss]

When you say performance royalty, Infrared shout out to Inf.

[Fat Joe]

Inf, my brother, he wrote the hook.

[Jadakiss]

No doubt.

[Fat Joe]

He got his publishing. He cashed the million dollar checks. Okay. Infrared, yo. He was barking. I was. Yo, bought a Lamborghini. He was throwing a hundred dollar bills in the middle of club live. He thought that shit had never run out. But, yo, Inf, I love you, man. Thank you. But French didn't even write the hook. He came, he said it. Now, because the record is, I believe in everybody winning. That's just always been my theory. So, you know, I made sure he got. He said five. I'm gonna go get the accurate number through my lawyer. But I believe it was 10. But I gave it to him because when he asked for the 10, that shit unforgettable. God is great for French Montana because French Montana was a little cold before. All the way up. Keeping it real with you. All the way up. Rings off. And then he come with the glazes of ice. The unforgettable. That shit was like unforgett. Like. So when he told me, he said, yo, you know, I gave you the million dollar voice. I looked at him, I said, nah, this nigga gotta get his. He gotta get his publishing now. Cause this guy, he earned it. But usually, you know, if you want to say I take advantage, the guy we really gave the most of the publishing to was a really low. He wasn't French Montana. He's infrared. And INF Court is published. Everybody who played on the show caught their publisher. But, yo, All right, I told you about this. You didn't want to believe me. Kiss. Timothy Chalamet is the truth. It's the Golden Gloves. Where our sister. Golden Gloves. Golden Globes. Golden Globes. Teyana Taylor took that motherfucker. That boy Timothy Chalamet. That was the most in that whole shit, was the most telling shit in the world. I don't think Leonardo DiCaprio ever lost an award. George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio. This nigga fried all of them. I know they were sitting in that chair. They learned something that day. They said, oh, it's a new sheriff in town. It's a new sheriff in town. That young boy swept them same category with their face. They put five guys faces. George Clooney for sure. Leonardo was with it. I watched that. When I seen that, I said, the politics have changed this year. Timmy Chalamet, they moved him up. He beat the biggest of the biggest of the biggest Charlamagne, won the shit with all those guys. Everybody you ever thought was the greatest actor in the world, Henry Hitchcock. Of all them niggas, he smoked all of them, went up there, even said a speech. Henry Hitchcock, he went up there, said a thing. These Kardashian girls, and I ain't got no beef with them. I love them more. But they know your nephew. Nephew. You put out an album, you hit it out the park.

[Jadakiss]

Henry Hitchcock.

[Fat Joe]

Rich, don't let the granddaughter of the Kardashians come get you in Yonkers, J. Once. These women are meticulous. If you're winning at any, you could be the greatest surfer of all time. That they say you breaking the bank. A Kardashian is on your ass. If you look at Timothy Shallot with this girl, it don't even look the same. No, no, come on.

[Jadakiss]

He changes his name every sentence.

[Fat Joe]

I call myself. I call myself the Forrest Gump of hip hop. Them bitches is the Forrest Gump of everything. Somebody going to the bank, they want in. They up in there. I'm sorry. Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush won the championship. He was the biggest nigga in the world. And he grabs the mother and the daughter. He grabs Kim Kardashian. We're going to Disneyland, bro. They everywhere. That's Forrest Gump. Like Timothy Shalamet, God bless him. You think that that ain't premeditated? That. That girl silly sitting next to the new Leonardo DiCaprio. Leonardo and I got love for the Kardashians. But watch. It's hard to tell after you watch the premeditation. Murder. This is premeditated. Guys, I saw a fake. I think it's AI. Wouldn't be walking on the beach with Khloe Kardashian. I threw the flag.

[Jadakiss]

That was AI.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, it must have. Don't say. Oh, shit. Yo, it might not be AI. You know the league is Wimpy's. I don't know. OKC can't even beat him. The league the next 10 years is a guy called Wimby Yamba in San Antonio. San Antonio. The whole team is phenomenal. And they got a picture of Chloe holding his hand on the beach. I guess it was. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. But we believe it. We believe it. Cause they did that to everybody else.

[Jadakiss]

I don't believe it. They.

[Fat Joe]

We believe it.

[Jadakiss]

You believe.

[Fat Joe]

I actually believe less now when I'm online. I got a triple quadruple. Check that shit.

[Jadakiss]

Everything's AI.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Tell you the truth, you can't even like a pretty girl on AI. You can't look at that shit and really believe that's Rosa Lucinda, because that's AI. Everything on there right now is AI. I don't know why niggas ain't winning Fed cases. Give me a Fed case, I'll be like, yo, y' all fake my voice with AI.

[Jadakiss]

Prove it.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all got the video. There's lawyers out here. Fake in real court. Jadakiss came out the hotel with the girl. Not Jadakiss with the John Witherspoon. And they making up AI showing them come out the fucking the hotel. The AI shit is out of control. Am I lying or not? Do you look at Instagram and you see a beautiful woman and you say to yourself, even women, if you see a guy that's too good to be true, he better have some people around him. They better be eating buffalo wings at the game, watching the game. You better see some type of texture with him. Because if all his pictures is him by the wilderness or him by on a motorcycle or in this. That shit. AI, they caught your man. I said that, too. You know, they caught Matt Barnes. He sent the AI girl 61,000 and the DM. You know that, right? Google that. Only fans, they had an AI that he thought he was really talking to a girl. She gassed him. He sent the 61,000. Matt fucking Barnes, who's not an ugly motherfucker, ain't got money. And, like, what the fuck? AI is risky business right now. Am I lying? It says a post in blogs claimed that Barnes was extorted between 23 and 24 by someone using AI deepfakes around 61,000 to a woman known as Zoe Barnes, called the whole thing an Internet lie, saying he did not get scammed by an AI model. And his. That was AI. See? That was AI. He's saying he did this scam was an AI. It wasn't even true. They scammed the story. Yo, yo, they scammed the story. He never. He's saying that's not true. He specifically called out blogs and social accounts for pushing the narrative without checking with him, telling people to stop believing. He might have been embarrassed.

[Jadakiss]

You owe yourself a flag for that, by the way.

[Fat Joe]

I'm using an AI tool to figure all this out. Just so you know me, explain something to you, right? People ask me all the time. And I want you to really fuck the funny shit, fuck the bugging out, fuck all that. I want you to dig deep. I really want you to concentrate on what I'm about to say. Because too many people come up to me every day. I don't care if I'm in the doctor's office, I'm anywhere. And they ask me about dealing with family members that pass away. Before my mother passed away, it was the biggest fear I ever had in my life. I'mma be honest with you. I thought I might go schizophrenia, like, I thought I might just lose my marbles, you know, your mom's gives you the biggest safety in the world. I don't give a fuck. I used to have the world against me. And I go to my mother's house and she ain't know why, and I sit at the end of the couch and she rubbed my feet. I mean, the world, it could be 50 cent beef on 10. This, this, I don't care. I go to my mother's house, she rubbed my feet, and I feel like a kid again. The safety you lose for losing loved ones is devastating. But I'll tell you a quick story. One of my best friends got murdered in front of my building many, many years ago, right? And so I live in a big, big project where everybody came outside. It was like 500 people outside. Maybe I was looking at the body on the floor, you know, about five, six hours later, the coroner comes, they take the body. They come and they wash off the blood. This before they was doing shrines and shit. They wash off the blood off the floor. The second the crowd disperses and everybody's leaving and the old man comes home, it's not his fault. The old man comes home from working all day, parks his station wagon right where the body was at, got out, went upstairs. What that taught me at such a young age was life moves on. And no matter how depressed you are, no matter how stressed you are, no matter how you take it, you have to find a way to look towards the light. You're not doing nothing by Making yourself feel terrible, sad, worse. Oh, I can't enjoy this meal. I can't love the day. I can. You gotta look towards the peace, whatever makes you happy. Because once you fall that way, it's too hard to dig out of there. So what I'm saying to you is that while you bullshitting, thinking people care about somebody who died in your family, somebody's looking to take your job. Somebody's looking to catch you off point. Now, now, you ain't strong with me. I ain't gonna lie. I promise you. I went into depression for two years straight when Pun, my sister, my grandfather, died around the same week or whatever. It was overwhelming for me. I couldn't deal with him. That's the first time in my life that niggas try to play with me. It's the first time in my life it was visible to people that knew me. This guy ain't all there. It ain't the same Fat Joe. He ain't the lion, you know, don't be scared of him. He lost it. He's washed up. He got fatter, 200 pounds more. This. This the shit that they were thinking. Because when you were off and you depressed and you walking around every day, they'll start playing with you. So all I can say to you is, try to stay in the light and in the positive. You're not earning no type of equity or. Or anything with being depressed and saying, oh, why this happened, This. I know we got emotions. We got to deal with it, but you got to move forward. I. I've been getting that. A friend of ours, his mom's just really, really sick, and it looks like really, really sick. And so I had to explain this shit to him. And, you know, every day people come up to me, yo, I know you had a horrible year. You lost your mother, your father, your. Your brother. How you deal with it? I don't know how I deal with it, but I know that I stay in the light because I was depressed for two years. Fuck, money. They was playing with me. You know, I've been depressed to the point where, you know, I got mad. If people were happy, I'm sitting there. Somebody laughed at a movie or something. I used to be mad, like, yo, why they laughing? You wake up in the morning instead of enjoying the sunny day, like right now, we call each other. We like, yo, God is great. Blessed day. I used to wake up on a sunniest day and be like, y', all, fuck this day. This ain't. You know. So it's like, listen, guys, It's a real thing. When you lose parents, you lose siblings, you lose best friends, families. But you have to try to stay positive because life will move on. And Rich, a really good friend of ours, his mom's, you know, she got the cancer to where they can't, they can't get it out. So we don't talk about politics, but we gotta, we either oblivious to life if we don't at least mention what's going on with ice. Each his own bottle. 1800. What they do the differences, right?

[Jadakiss]

What did the ice do?

[Fat Joe]

The difference is six. Crazy. No, I can't think. They killed the woman. They killed the woman.

[Jadakiss]

I'm not laughing at that. No laughing at you because you don't.

[Fat Joe]

Know what's going on.

[Jadakiss]

I don't know where we.

[Fat Joe]

The country's in a very delicate state. Even somebody who I think pushed Trump to be president, somebody who really has a Joe Rogan got the biggest following in the world, right? They actually said that when Joe Rogan co signed Trump, he got all the middle aged men in America. His word did this. He tilt the scale of justice. Him they ran out there after he did that. And Kamala did not want to do Joe Rogan. She fucked up. She didn't want to touch the third round. Trump went in there, touched the third rail, got him elected. Joe Rogan says this shit is like Gestapo, like Hitler. What's going on out here? They out here running in houses with the biggest guns you ever seen in your life. Like Tony Montana guns to pull out an immigrant that works hard. He's the Uber driver, he's this, he's that. They said they were going to get the criminals out. Hey, get the criminals out, get the rapists out, get the drug dealers. Fuck them. Send them back to wherever you're going to send them. When you really going to schools, grabbing mothers that are dropping their kids off at school. That's what the whole uproar is about now. They shot another person last night in Minnesota. So I'm watching the mayor of Minnesota talking about, yo, I got the police. Mayor of Minnesota does not want ICE in this town. Trump just tripled up. Send a thousand more out there. They killed the lady there that shot another guy in the lake. They antagonizing the people to flip. I don't even want to say what I'm thinking in the back of my mind and guess what? That's not black and brown people in the middle of that street below zero going up against ice. Those are all white people. I've never Seen white people. This ain't George Floyd. This is white people fighting ice. And the police, guys like James is in front line talking about, fuck ice. This America is in a scary, scary place. Where the mayor said, I got my cops. He said, I have 600 police and they're fighting ice. You ever seen some shit like this? The mayor said, straight up. The mayor said, out of Minneapolis, well, I got one better for you. Yeah. He said, get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Forget that. Yeah. You know what he said last night? We have 600 police, Minnesota police, fighting ice in the street. What the fuck does that mean? America's fighting America. The police is fighting the Fed office. Like, what the fuck is. Okay, guys, you get that on the way home. It's a scary time in America. He's calling this new wave of retaliation by Trump. My 600 against your federal army. Yeah. And they just straight going up to people, spraying them with pepper, spraying their face. They running and do something. They don't need a warrant. They got mask on. They don't need a warrant. I don't give a fuck what you say to them. Actually, Trump and J.D. vance said they got immunity for whatever they do. They don't, though.

[Jadakiss]

Ice.

[Fat Joe]

Yes. They can kill whoever they want to kill. We gotta know some niggas that work for ice. They got the mask on. We don't know who they are. ICE agents usually do not have the kind of warrant that lets them force their way into a home. They mostly use internal administrative warrants that are not signed by a judge. They going to schools and churches, pulling out people. They're going to people's house. The Uber driver, they went into Uber drivers. He's from, like, not. Not Nigeria, Liberia or something. And they dragged. They had some guns. I'm scared of those guns. They don't got regular guns. These guys got rocket launchers in their hand, running up in that crib. Should have went to Dr. Rock. I heard that snap.

[Jadakiss]

That's from weight. That's from doing some weights.

[Fat Joe]

I'm gonna tell you about them weights. Everybody I know doing weights got back problems. Back surgery.

[Jadakiss]

Lightweights, my brother. Lightweights.

[Fat Joe]

Callous. We know four people who got back surgery this month. Ruben Diaz Jr. Slo, my man. Jeff Aronson, my partner. We rewinded. I could tell you four guys who is. What's the decent way to say it so I don't get a flag?

[Jadakiss]

In pretty good shape.

[Fat Joe]

Pretty good shape. They just got four back surgeries.

[Jadakiss]

I can tell you one who ain't me. I ain't Getting back surgery.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you better not. You're not getting back surgery.

[Jadakiss]

Nothing wrong with my back.

[Fat Joe]

You get that on the way on. We'll end it with this because, you know, on a lighter note, what do you think is one of the biggest breakups in hip hop history? That if they wouldn't have broke up, it would have been the most successful shit.

[Jadakiss]

First, the Fat Boys breakup.

[Fat Joe]

Did the Fat Boys break up or. That was just a bar. The fat Boy, Buffy and them, they broke up. That's news to me. No, that's the bar.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, but.

[Fat Joe]

And then who else? The Fugees break up.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, but they got back somewhat.

[Fat Joe]

Praza's doing 60,000.

[Jadakiss]

The biggest years.

[Fat Joe]

You want me to save. Mine just died, though.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah. Shout Out.

[Fat Joe]

John Forte. I had songs with him. He was a good brother.

[Jadakiss]

Rest in peace.

[Fat Joe]

Rough life. Rough life. John Forte, Fugees. You want me to give you mines because mine's premeditated. I might as well say it. I feel like the worst breakup in hip hop history. They could have ran it up. Legend is 50 Cent and gang. That right there was the new emergence of Snoop and Dre, the records they made. The shit they made was so classic. Listen, I wasn't getting along with 50 at the time, and I knew that shit wasn't. I guess he'll say all money ain't good money, right? Cause they was on fire. What IF game and 50 would have stood together? We would have had crazy classic albums. Who you dating?

[Jadakiss]

All the notes.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, man. Fuck. That's how you want the fucking. He want the motherfucker with the funny face who lost to Timmy Chalet on the show. They tell him, yo, yo, Kiss. Who do you want on his show? John Withingspoon III. Elliott Splitzer, this.

[Jadakiss]

I feel like Banks with 50. Man, I wish Banks was still with fifth. Feel like he got slighted. Banks is dumb. Nice.

[Fat Joe]

By the way, guys, Merry Christmas. It took long to get here. Shout out to Mike the Jeweler. Here's your Christmas gift, brother.

[Jadakiss]

Elizabeth.

[Fat Joe]

I'm coming, my brother. Yo. Here's your Christmas gift. You see that? You see that? They say Fat Joe don't take care of his people.

[Jadakiss]

Look at this. Definitely take care.

[Fat Joe]

Oh. Open Z box.

[Jadakiss]

Perhaps.

[Fat Joe]

Perhaps something for the nose. Perhaps Sun Zing for the. No, for the nose. Mike the Jeweler. 145th and Broadway, right? He charged me a lot. I don't know why I'm plugging them up like that.

[Jadakiss]

Oh, Joey, Jada. Y' all see that?

[Fat Joe]

That ain't live diamonds. That ain't that, Lab. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking Kiss. You see that Gay got up. You see that, Icy? You can't even see your face on that right there. That got so much. Is it nice?

[Jadakiss]

It's nice. Beautiful.

[Fat Joe]

I thank you, my brother. Biggest show in the game, man. Go yourselves if you don't like us.

[Jadakiss]

This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking Kiss, you son of a.