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Fat Joe
The volume. Yo, what up, y' all?
Jadakiss
Show Crack the Dawn, the boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada Show. We got special guests today, y' all. You know what I mean? We got my brother's club, 520, you know, I mean, one of the hottest podcasts out there. They've been doing it, going strong. They. They controlling the airwave cyberly. And welcome, my brothers, to the Joe and Jada Show.
Fat Joe
Make some noise with the guys.
Dame Lillard
With the guys, baby.
Jadakiss
Hold on, hold on. Yeah, man. My man B. Hin got a song. Irkin jerk.
B. Hin
Let's.
Jadakiss
Let's just start the show off. Let's check it. Let's. Let's somebody tune that up. Let's hear that joint. Let's load up the drink, man. Let's not even play with it.
Dame Lillard
Listen, Jesus here, it's only right, J. I appreciate the love, baby, but we gotta go.
Fat Joe
What does Irkin Jer me?
Dame Lillard
Irkin jerk. Get us your local.
Jadakiss
They used to call that E and J when I was young.
Fat Joe
So that's the new terminology.
Jadakiss
That's the Gen Z.
Dame Lillard
That's old jerk.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Jadakiss
We ain't got it.
B. Hin
No, no, you can't.
Dame Lillard
Nah. Well, we gotta listen. Me and Sunny Digital gonna put the remastered version out, and I'll be sure to send it to you. You know what I mean?
Jadakiss
Oh, he don't want us to play. All right. You see, that's the good thing about music. You don't want it to go out. You ain't got it.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, we'll keep it in the tub.
Jadakiss
Don't hit shit.
Fat Joe
How long y' all been doing this podcast, man?
B. Hin
What has been like two years.
Dame Lillard
Two years.
Jadakiss
When did y' all know that y' all was them dudes in the. In the podcast world?
Dame Lillard
I'm gonna be real with you. I. I still don't know now, you.
Jadakiss
Know, y' all shit is everywhere.
Dame Lillard
I mean, we go. We go viral a lot. I know we, like, different than a. You know, I mean, a lot of podcasts, but I don't think we really, like, felt that moment.
Jadakiss
First of all, how did y' all. What made y' all do a podcast?
B. Hin
How'd y' all come up with them 2? Already had a podcast when I was hooping. That's an opinion podcast. They were. They were shooting. I came on their show one time, and it was a bunch of fun. Once I retired, I had hit him up to do, like, a shoe podcast. I'm in the sneakers like y' all, and we was like, yo, let's do this. Me and him, we collect kicks, but be him. Me and him been cool forever and it all just came together. I had a club in my basement at my crib.
Jadakiss
That was my next question.
B. Hin
Yeah, we was there kicking it.
Fat Joe
What you doing at your club? Are you club? Do you have.
Jadakiss
I ain't. See, that was like the flex with the silence on.
Fat Joe
I got a club in my basement.
Jadakiss
Club in the basement of my crib.
Fat Joe
You got a wife and a family and all that. You still had the club in the basement?
B. Hin
Yeah, she threw the parties.
Fat Joe
She threw the party?
B. Hin
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Okay.
B. Hin
So that's what it was called. The club in the basement was called Club 520. So we were supposed to shoot in the club, but we ended up shooting it somewhere else.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Dame Lillard
Cause the first things we did, the first pies we shot, we wouldn't even be here today if that shit aired. For real. Yeah, like we was. We had him like out of his body. You know what I'm saying? Cause it was just straight, raw room like talk. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't even no sports talk. We just on there talk about topics of the day. We went a little too crazy.
Fat Joe
What do you do when the guests come on?
Dame Lillard
Still the same us.
Fat Joe
Pause, blow they top and just come on here. It had to be a quick, cuz me and Jada, we. We the Mother Teresa of this. Like, we trying to keep this positive, uplifting. The people keep this. And if a guest come on and just go, Katt Williams, what do you do?
B. Hin
Let them talk.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, man, let them talk.
B. Hin
All right, so cam on them, Let them go crazy.
Dame Lillard
And maybe you can chime in. You feel me? If they getting a little too crazy, you can chime in and pull them back, dial them back. But you gotta let people be who they are on our show. We just want you. Like when you come on. And we had Jada on. Come on here. Just chill, bro. It's barbershop talk. We don't care about.
Jadakiss
Allegations came on there and just went straight. Straight ape and set and just went crazy.
B. Hin
We almost weren't going to be here. We survived December. We. We had a hell of a guest. If you know, you know. Yeah, we. We won't bring him up, but it was.
Dame Lillard
We had one that almost canceled us for real. And it was nothing that we said.
Fat Joe
And you almost got canceled.
Dame Lillard
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jadakiss
You see?
B. Hin
But you went viral, though. We had a viral moment with Jay and how you talking about Doc Rivers? Hairline's hairline.
Dame Lillard
All Star Weekend.
B. Hin
Yo, I gave.
Fat Joe
You know I got a product. You see my up here, right?
Jadakiss
Doc.
Fat Joe
Listen.
Dame Lillard
There you go.
B. Hin
Jake, tap in.
Fat Joe
Doc. I'm just saying. Forget Doc, right?
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I try to get Jalen Rose on the box. He tried to tell me he ain't rewinding the time. That's emphatically non. There's no way. Emphatically none. Not using the product.
Dame Lillard
No, he not.
Fat Joe
What is too black? What?
Dame Lillard
Junior? Nah.
Fat Joe
Are you crazy?
Dame Lillard
Junior got the real.
Fat Joe
Don't defend the basketball player.
Jadakiss
This not his headline colors.
Fat Joe
I love Jay the most crazy. They shoot this out. You ain't never seen the. With the. With the gun. I seen it.
Dame Lillard
They got the Armageddon gun on there for sure.
Jadakiss
Her hair is.
Dame Lillard
Not everybody's though.
Jadakiss
And when you get the jet super black. That ain't from our ancestors.
B. Hin
That's not the lineage.
Dame Lillard
He still got his good grade.
Fat Joe
I with Jalen.
Dame Lillard
Mo.
Jadakiss
He got some of the best haircuts ever.
Fat Joe
I'm just saying the black point. At one point, you just say what we trying to do is make everybody feel proud about what they doing. You ain't got to go into CVS and hide that. You buying to rewind. We got Travis Kelce. This. The point is, Jalen Rose is using this shit.
Dame Lillard
All right, so about it. Let's talk about rewind since we're here now. What if I want to go swimming? Joe, what we doing?
Fat Joe
Oh, no. My shit perfect. I wish.
B. Hin
Women.
Fat Joe
No, no, no, no. This ain't.
B. Hin
You got to retweet what was wrong with this.
Fat Joe
It's cracking. Kiss. Let me tell you something, bro. I was in the pool today. Like, don't play with me. My Italian grade.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Crazy legendary number one out there. I'm not. I don't want to break. I'm not. Let's go back to the doc. What happened with Doc Rivers. Jalen Rose. All right. You know how when they have a painting to call before the I just got to paint. They're giving them this stencil.
Dame Lillard
But see the people. When people scare people with the product like that. That's why I asked you. Is they be worried about if it come off?
Fat Joe
No, my sweat heavy.
Dame Lillard
People don't scare.
Fat Joe
That shit is on there and you. The lights hit it.
Dame Lillard
That's how you know J. Rose is getting. Because the light is.
Fat Joe
You have the full beard. It lasts even longer. But what I'm trying to tell everybody is, yo, why fight the time when you can rewind the time?
B. Hin
That's a boy.
Fat Joe
Why look 53 when you could look 43.
B. Hin
Okay.
Fat Joe
Why look 43 when you could be 32? If your wife telling you she liked the. She lying. She trying to keep you off the streets. She don't want you looking. Brad know. I'm not. I'm telling you the truth, man.
Jadakiss
It's one of the. One of the. Y' all knew him forever, T. So one of the things about y' all cast is when he tell his stories, he's usually on himself. Was he always like that, or did y' all just. Was that y' all figured it out. When he. When he tell his stories, he. He never just go to the good story. He go. I mean, the good story. He never just go to the good. He tell it.
Dame Lillard
I'm just tell y' all the truth. Honestly. He got a bunch of good stories.
Jadakiss
No doubt. All of them is good. Tell the. With something. Bad people.
Dame Lillard
People gravitate towards the more so. A lot of former NBA players, when they came.
Fat Joe
I don't think you really see what you do to me on this podcast. Be pulling the hat like I'm cat. Oh, he's lying. Then I gotta bring the little guy out. You saw the story about the little guy? Yeah, he about this big.
Jadakiss
He's not that big.
Fat Joe
He's two feet, too. Nah, man.
Dame Lillard
But with him, it's like a lot of NBA, former NBA players, they just wanted to tell, like, man, I would have killed him if I would have played him or try to overdo what they did in the NBA for people.
Fat Joe
Who you would have killed then, like, who you would have killed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B. Hin
I had good games against.
Fat Joe
But what about sg Nah, I ain't.
B. Hin
Gonna say I played against them.
Fat Joe
How did that go?
B. Hin
I had good games against everybody. But I should tell y' all, when I tell the stories, they talk the most shit.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
B. Hin
So, like, when I first met him, I met him talking shit like.
Fat Joe
That's right.
Dame Lillard
I had one of my young guns, like, shout out to Shelvin Mack when I met him. I'm like, nigga, fuck you. My nigga way better than you. He's still in college.
B. Hin
I ain't know who this it was. I'm with my guys.
Fat Joe
Who the.
Dame Lillard
We got mutual friends.
Fat Joe
Well, you know me. I grew up. You see, across the street from the store is the projects. I grew up in a project building like that. Yeah, so we had 145 families in one building. You talk about popping to six in the morning every day. In the summer, we just talk. Fat chicks, ugly dudes. This, this. They snapping on my mother, they telling me my father ain't got. We don't give a. We go to six in the morning, we talking about hip hop. And so I understand talking about myself in a funny way. I have no problem. When I said the. I'm a glizzy cereal glizzy eater.
Dame Lillard
That.
Fat Joe
That. That was.
B. Hin
Joe, let's.
Dame Lillard
Let's dial back to that.
Fat Joe
Yeah. What made you say, I bought a hot dog yesterday? From the corner.
Dame Lillard
From the corner?
Fat Joe
Yes. They got in the corner. I don't even know what to tell you. All right, what are they supposed to do?
Dame Lillard
But you don't have to say you a cereal glizzy eater.
Fat Joe
That's crazy. I enjoy hot dogs. I'm a cereal glizzy eater.
B. Hin
No, that'll be free.
Jadakiss
This stuff they make.
Fat Joe
Get the out.
Dame Lillard
All right, Joe, what's your order at the Garden? What's your order at the Garden?
Fat Joe
If you get too glizzy. Too glizzy.
B. Hin
He sound like Freaky Mike. He's a serial producer. He's a cereal glizzy eater as well.
Fat Joe
Okay, let I go. They got a room, okay, in the Garden. The glizzy room that the celebrities go to. So you eating Lenny Kravitz is there. Whoever you name. Everybody's there. Lenny Kravitz, everybody. Benny Kravitz, Michael J. Fox, whoever you name, okay? They have real chefs cooking lobster and steak. When I get there and I get to my table, they already know. Two glizzies waiting for me off the dribble.
B. Hin
Automatic detector, too.
Dame Lillard
Are you getting chips with that?
Fat Joe
No, no, no, no. I'm just gonna eat the two glitch. That's my dinner, so I'm gonna eat that. Two glizzies, two Diet Cokes.
Dame Lillard
Are you ketchup, Mustard, onion? What are we doing to it?
Fat Joe
No, no, we just got. But it's in there professional. You gotta get some mustard. That's it. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, but all that lobster and all these. Yeah, I eat lobster all day, to be honest with you.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I want to go in the st and eat some popcorn with. Eat some glizzies. There's just no way around it. She's what y' all look at. Yo, you gotta understand this. I am not conforming, okay? I am not gentrified. I'm not conforming to the new rules that they say in a hot dog is a. You glizzy and you doing like. I'm eating a hot dog.
Dame Lillard
No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
You see what I'm saying we just.
Dame Lillard
We just always talk about.
Jadakiss
It's mad people that agree with you.
B. Hin
Oh, it's not.
Dame Lillard
You got a serial killer right there.
Jadakiss
You just got the gumption.
Dame Lillard
That's another serial killer.
Fat Joe
Who's your man right here?
B. Hin
Oh, yeah, please tell that story.
Fat Joe
You come over here. Come in the camera. One second. Let me ask you one quick turn. Are you a serial glizzy?
Dame Lillard
Yes.
B. Hin
His name is Freaky Mike.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Hot dog.
B. Hin
I'm going to the stadium. I'm eating hot. Why are you getting lobster at a basketball game?
Fat Joe
Yeah, that don't make sense. Yes.
Jadakiss
You had glitches your whole life.
Fat Joe
Birthday parties your whole life.
B. Hin
A hot dog in a movie theater is crazy. That is.
Dame Lillard
No, that's it.
B. Hin
I'm getting a little popcorn. You know what I'm saying? I'm get some popcorn.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, for hot dogs at a reception.
Fat Joe
It was a wag hot dog.
B. Hin
The zog Lizzy.
Fat Joe
That's a great one. Prime 112 have glizzies. Wagu hot dogs. This pheno taking the show Glizzy the spaceship glizzy dog. This goes perfect for he go out of space. You just perfect seg. They give you the to go.
Jadakiss
Perfect segue to my man being weight loss workout journey. I just go off the glizz.
Fat Joe
Off the gl.
Jadakiss
We got to do something. We gotta get the glizzy.
Dame Lillard
Nah. For sure n. It's been. It's really d motivate me to get in the gym. He always be on me like, bro, it's cool, bro, but you can't eat pork every day. I love ribs. Smothered pork chops.
Fat Joe
Like, how about that?
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Jadakiss
What's your workout? You change your diet, you change your.
Dame Lillard
I changed my diet. I cut out a lot of bread. Cut out pork. Totally. I dib and dab sometimes maybe pork. Yeah. Ribs. I'm a rib chip God.
Jadakiss
So similar to cereal glizzy.
Dame Lillard
However you want to remix it, you.
Fat Joe
Never had beef ribs. Like, good beef ribs.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, but they too. The bone is too thick on them.
Fat Joe
That ain't bone. Is too bad on the beef bread.
Jadakiss
This episode.
Dame Lillard
I'm trying to tell about my journey.
B. Hin
He's outliving my truth.
Fat Joe
I already know how this goes.
Dame Lillard
I'm trying to give you my journey, Jada. Can I steal my journey?
Fat Joe
Really don't want to let this thing go like that. Nah.
Dame Lillard
But we in the gym Monday, Tuesdays and Thursday. Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. So, you know, I mean, it's a part of my life now.
Jadakiss
Okay.
Dame Lillard
So I'm dedicated I wear my hot suit and you know what I'm saying? He'll work out. Guru dj, work out all the time. But. But I'll be seeing you on there, doing your pull ups in your whole regimen though.
Jadakiss
Just trying to live. I'm just trying to live.
Dame Lillard
What made you switch it up?
Jadakiss
I got punched.
Fat Joe
I got a picture with your belly like. You was like Fat Joe. You ever seen that picture? You know how bad they got at me?
Jadakiss
I was big, bro.
Fat Joe
They were like, yo, why you doing Jada dirty? I found an ill picture of me.
Jadakiss
And Jada do it over my birthday.
Fat Joe
But what's the problem? I didn't get mad, okay, you look great. I love. But you, you was a little round in the edges. And your fans got upset with me that I threw the up. They like, yo, don't do J like that. He don't look like that. I'm like, yo, the picture fly.
Jadakiss
Anyway, I got punched in the back of the head one day in Kansas City. When I got home, I decided to start working out after a show or something. We was on the Locks tour.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Jadakiss
And I think we got to the event. We arrived at the venue a little early. They didn't have the backing, so now we on the Sprinter or the tour bus, drinking and smoking. We end up falling asleep as soon as we got into a nice good slumber. They come with the money and the mics and all. Yo, you gotta go on. So I was the first one off the truck walking to the door to go in. There was some dudes drinking, just huddling up, you know, fraternizing outside. Them saying, what's up, Yo, Jada. I thought I said, what's up? Good enough. It must have not been to they liking though. So I gave him a one of them, you know what I'm saying? Mind you, I just woke up, next thing I know, players club to the back of the head, you know what I'm saying? They play his lucha. P came out and cleaned them up though, you know, I mean, it was a. But the door was open. The whole club saw it. Then we went on stage, you know, I mean, P was telling the drivers the back of the He. He was preparing for the ambush.
Dame Lillard
Oh, okay, okay.
Jadakiss
Luckily we got out of there. I came home, got with my man Giant from the bartenders and start working out, you know what I mean? Yeah, they players club me back in the day.
Dame Lillard
That's crazy. That made you start working out, though.
Jadakiss
Other. But that was the. That was the ISIS on the cake.
Fat Joe
Yeah, we had Jim Jones on here the other day, and Jim Jones was saying he work out to be prepared. And did you remember that video he slammed that dude in the airport? I know, Jim. Homeboy had to with him. Like, I knew the minute I saw it, I said, I don't. I don't even know what. Homeboy must have said some wild to him for him to do that to him. You know what I'm saying? So. But that's, you know, I know guys that had to go to jail five, 10 years, and they already started working out before they went in there to be ready to go in jail. You know, prepping they bodies to get ready. Cause they gotta go to gladiator school and go to war.
Jadakiss
Well, the clock only goes frontwards and don't go back.
B. Hin
So.
Dame Lillard
I wanted to ask y' all, what made y' all start, like, partnering together, how that come.
Fat Joe
This is a long time. Let me answer this one. It was a long time ago, and we got together maybe five years ago or something like that, and we talked about it and exactly what it is, but it never turned into fruition. It never came to be. And then we finally linked up with the volume and they shared the vision and it was like, yo, we believe in this show. And shout out to Lori, she's in the building. And then we just teamed up and we went. But we been wanted to do this a long time ago.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You know, and. And you know, you got Joe or Jada. You know, I feel like we, you know, we them guys, man. We the McKillies. You know what I'm saying? You know, we, you know, I'm. I'm, you know, I'm the type of guy, you got a million men against a million men. He said, bring out your biggest fella. And I come out there with the sword to the front, everybody. What about that gorilla?
Dame Lillard
What if you gotta face that gorilla, though?
Fat Joe
So that gorilla. We. Let me tell you something. I once. Here we go. This is a simple one. I once. Listen, I once was at a zoo in Australia, right? And they had a show where it wasn't a gorilla, it was. It was a tiger. And they took a piece of beef, like a big piece of beef, and they put that shit, like on top of a tree. You hear me? That man jumped up, hit the tree with one thing, grabbed a piece of beef and came down. At that point, I knew, we are fucked out there like this. You not zigzagging. You ain't running around a tree from a gorilla, a T, tiger, none of that. So I Don't know who. Think they could fight a gorilla, fight a tiger, whatever. I seen the tiger jump, grab the meat, come down. I said, oh, no, I' ma try to run. I'm gonna try to. No, you ain't gonna make it. No, I'm gonna try to run. I'm gonna try to fight.
Dame Lillard
You gonna try to fight?
Fat Joe
Oh, I'm gonna go out. If an animal is coming at you, what are you gonna do? Yo, hey, here's the hot sauce. You have to fight this. There's no way around it. Here's the hot sauce.
Dame Lillard
Yo, you guys squiring up.
Fat Joe
What are you gonna do? Coming at you. Are you gonna pass them the hot sauce and be like, okay, no, no. You got to try to get away.
B. Hin
That's all I'm saying.
Fat Joe
Come too close and try to get away. I'm moving. I'm trying to get the up out of there. Good punch in the nose might stun somebody. And keep the out of there. Well, I'm not gonna lay there. I'm not the guy in the scary.
Jadakiss
Movie where you'd be like, run.
Fat Joe
No, no, I'm out. Yo. I don't gotta look back for nothing. Nothing in the world. One time, it might be too real, but one time there was a situation where I'm outside of a spot and somebody starts shooting. So the police forced me. They subpoenaed me to come in, right? Because Fat Joe's there, right? So I go up in there. I'm with my lawyer, and they were like, when you heard the shots, what you do? I ran the other way so fast, what did the other people do? Was 100 people running with me like, yo, what the. You. Are you one of them guys? You walk to the shots to see what's going on? I'm not that guy. I'm out of here.
B. Hin
Check this.
Fat Joe
I don't want to know what's going on.
Dame Lillard
Respect.
Jadakiss
You're going to run, but you're going to stay and fight the gorilla.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, he said, because at first, I'm.
Fat Joe
Not saying I'm a stay and fight the gorilla. I'm just trying to tell you that the gorilla got me trapped and I got no choice. You're going to see the video. Fat Joe going to go all out with the gorilla, snatch my shit off. He going, I'm going off out.
Dame Lillard
No matter what you gonna say to him?
Jadakiss
No, I said he should try to talk.
Fat Joe
Talk to him. You know, I talked my way out of getting killed maybe 30, 40 times. It's a true story. I believe Guns in my chest. I deserved it, too. And I found the way. Yo, bro, we both Puerto Rican, yo. I know your man's. Yo, we don't have to do this. This no 30, 40 times, you know what I'm saying? I done got out there where they said, behind door number one. We had a riot in Connecticut. We fought the whole club. Or rather, the whole club fought us. It's like, I can't believe the whole club screaming, you gotta flow, Joe. Next thing I know, they trying to beat the brace off us. We fighting. We going all out, right? I spin around the door. I thought I got it right. The dude was like this with the. With the hammer. Thank God for his wife, who's like, please, papi, no, no, it ain't his fault. Please, this. He had the devil in his eyes, too. But I talked to matter. Yo, I got no problem. I got the up out of there. They know the stories. They know I ran out in the street. Kid carjacked the dude, took the little Honda Accord and drove back to the Bronx. It's a true story.
Jadakiss
Now back down, record schedule, program.
B. Hin
Hey, I feel bad for the dude. Got his carjack. He was just chilling. He didn't know his whole day was about to get fucked up.
Fat Joe
He rolled back with us.
Jadakiss
Somebody leave somebody.
Fat Joe
Brother, if you still alive, I want to see you in these.
B. Hin
No, please. T. Here we got a hollering, bro.
Fat Joe
I tell you a bigger. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Let me tell you. Hold up. Let me tell you a ill story I'm locking, right? That same story, you know.
Jadakiss
Pop your.
B. Hin
We here chilling.
Fat Joe
We call Jack the guy. I get all my guy. We caught him beat. They know Connecticut know they beat our ass, right? It's too many, right? And real warriors, too. They beat the out of us, right? So we driving back, we call him Big Pun, may he rest in peace. So we come back to Pun's block. Puns in the middle of the street, sees us and jumps and rolls over with, like, a machine gun in his hand. Yo, what's up, twin? Who won it? Who won it? I'm like, yo, my man that was in Connecticut. The outta here unrolled over like some army. Yo, what's up, twin? Who wanted where? I swear, dog, I swear. I'm like, yo, Pun, that was three hours ago. Like, calm down, Poppy. Like, he was acting like he was ready for war. But, you know, it is what it is, man. They know that's a real story.
Jadakiss
Coaching, man. Let's go to coaching.
Fat Joe
No, no, let me Ask you a question.
B. Hin
Okay.
Jadakiss
Coaching who.
Fat Joe
Did you not want to play?
B. Hin
Nah, I didn't care about playing.
Fat Joe
No, no, no, no, no. You just asked. I'm not gonna answer it for him. Is somebody who's too strong. Is somebody who roughed you up. There's somebody that even if you went in the stadium, you dreaded facing that player.
B. Hin
Nah, I hated playing Bron. Like, going against Bron. I didn't. I mean, I didn't have to guard him.
Fat Joe
Too physical.
Jadakiss
Yeah, they too many calls.
B. Hin
Yeah, he was. He the best. Like, we couldn't beat him. Like, I never beat Bron in a playoff game. And I played him, what, three or four times. I'm old.
Jadakiss
Was any games close?
B. Hin
We was up 31 games. Still lost. Yeah, we was up. We was like the Knicks.
Dame Lillard
We know how to segue.
Fat Joe
Such a low block, and, man, we.
B. Hin
Was up 30, man. End up losing in the end.
Jadakiss
Was it the Eastern Conference final?
B. Hin
Nah, this was all year. That too. But this was against the Pacer. Hey, hey. This was against the Pacers. When I was with the Pacers, though, we was up game three, 30 points lost.
Dame Lillard
So we here talking about the playoffs. You know, we.
Jadakiss
The championship, though.
Dame Lillard
Hold on.
Fat Joe
Don't.
Dame Lillard
Don't try to run.
Fat Joe
That's a great accomplishment.
Dame Lillard
Did y' all really touched with a.
Fat Joe
Bunch of superstar players?
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And they all tell me behind the scenes who they didn't want to play like a Mike Bibby. AI, no, no.
B. Hin
They told me shout out to Mike.
Fat Joe
So I knew there was somebody that.
B. Hin
Oh, Bibby say he bothered you. They didn't want to see me in pregnancy, yo.
Fat Joe
You know, Bibby is. You know, he choked me up.
B. Hin
That's like big storm right now.
Jadakiss
He actually did.
Fat Joe
Bibby choked me up. So we collect sneakers, right? Let's go to sneakers. Nobody has more sneakers than Mike Bibby. When I say nobody. This store ain't big enough his shit. And he don't even trust his family. He got like seven locks. He goes like this. He built the whole Foot Locker for himself. Shit's like four stories when you go with the. With the thing. So he. He kept telling me for years, come to my house when you in Phoenix, yo, I'll give you whatever you want. Because, you know, he was Team Jordan.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
So he said, all right, Joe, whatever you want. I go whack. I do like the tiger did whack. Jump up on the whack. I go whack. These was all like one on ones. He's like, yo, what are you doing? His family's like, yo, babe, you told him. He was like, nah, fuck that. He knows what he's doing. I ain't going to his house taking this platinum plaques, yo. Crap. He wound up choking me out. I wound up having a bargain with him. Like, yo, I'll take one pair out of the four because they was one on ones. I knew what I was doing. I went for the shit. He was like, yo, this guy, his family ain't even know. They looking at his sneakers and sneakers, he's like. He's grabbing the best shit. He's grabbing like, I knew what to grab. Like, I was up like a kid in the Toys R Us that they said, yo, go crazy.
Jadakiss
Get busy now. What you want to say about the Knicks, man?
Dame Lillard
I just wanted to ask y' all, like, did y' all really think y' all was about to win the championship this year on some real.
Jadakiss
He thought he's about to beat Indiana.
Dame Lillard
What happened, though, from y' all perspective?
Jadakiss
We gave it all we got. Tim's blue, the carbon radar.
Dame Lillard
Y' all sound so defeated.
B. Hin
I know, man.
Fat Joe
We are. What are you talking about?
B. Hin
The energy is low.
Fat Joe
This guy's still having Braun nightmares 20 years later.
Jadakiss
Serious.
B. Hin
I still a.
Fat Joe
You know how we feel, okay? We've been fans our whole life. I mean, I got pictures of me 10 years old, playing basketball. Nick Jackets. So we've been. We've been sipping the Kool Aid a long time. So we finally get to a place, this city. And no disrespect to the Yankees. Love the Yankees, but it never felt like it felt with the Knicks going to the Eastern. Like, this shit was out of. But I mean, everybody. Your mother, my father, my dad. Like, normal people who are nice people. Let's go. Next. Like, this was fully charged. I think if we went to game seven, they probably would have blocked the Pacers bus from coming. Like, it was that crazy out here. Like, they was wilding out here, right? And we was on the shit, too. We come up in with the. He came up in here with the Nick helmet and shit. Nick socks up the heel type of shit like this. And I'm like, yo, we just so hype. And to fall short like that, I just think they were way faster than us. And they. They had a better team, you know, they really had a bench. We had visions of a bench.
Jadakiss
That was the best thing he said.
B. Hin
That's a bar.
Fat Joe
That's a bar. It's a visions of a bench. But what I'm saying to you is this is the problem. I Have Fat Joe plays in the game, five on five. I'm not the best player. It don't matter. I'm scoring 10, 12 points. There's just no way around.
Dame Lillard
Hold on, hold on.
Fat Joe
Joe, I'm telling you the truth.
Dame Lillard
I'm gonna interrupt you. What? What are you saying?
Fat Joe
Like the NBA basketball, any game I play, pick up softball, whatever. I'm doing my thing.
Dame Lillard
10 points in the NBA is crazy.
Fat Joe
I know, but I get it. I'll get some bum ass. 10 points. I'll get your man. What's your man? Turner? To bust my head open. I go on that line and make the two, I'm gonna on the scoreboard. Listen, what I'm saying, what I'm trying to tell you is I'm not doing nothing. That I'm not helping the team. Okay, I'm gonna help the team. So now my point that I don't understand is you waited your whole life. You get to the finals, you get to the playoffs, right? During the season. Let's. Let's call out Deuce McBride, right?
B. Hin
Okay.
Fat Joe
This was his time to really shine. Not regular shot. This was his time.
Jadakiss
You don't think he played good?
Fat Joe
I think he played good. I don't believe a star was born. That's the problem. I'm saying it has to be enough time.
B. Hin
They're gonna say he ain't get enough.
Jadakiss
Time to play a star with that much.
Fat Joe
I ain't know. My man with sga, John Williams. Williams, I'm sorry, I ain't know he liked that. A star.
B. Hin
He all started off born. He was all NBA.
Fat Joe
Okay, Jay, it's cool. But Jalen Brunson, when he was on Dallas, a star was born. I'm not going to be in this league. Played in the summer, in the winter, trying to be Kobe and get there. Listen to what I'm saying to you. That was the difference. They had a better bench. Our bench did not show up.
Dame Lillard
But he didn't to Jeff's point, DJ's point. He didn't get enough time to show Joey Crack that he could.
Fat Joe
That's kind of true too. But he did though. The mother guys didn't. Deuce was in them games.
B. Hin
Deuce, 18, 20.
Dame Lillard
And you can't play 18, 20 minutes.
Fat Joe
You gotta get a real five is irreplaceable.
B. Hin
Yeah, yeah. That's the problem.
Fat Joe
So when he come in 18 minutes, he gotta produce. What about the little guy? What about the little guy? The little white. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little guy. Little white guy. Go in there automatically. He is not Playing with these dudes.
B. Hin
My boy TJ Nash, quick.
Fat Joe
And what's the. What's the white boy for?
Jadakiss
Oh, do you know anybody's name?
Fat Joe
No. What's the white boy? I think it's Boston Richard. Same thing. They coming in automatic.
Dame Lillard
He said y' all. That Jada.
Fat Joe
He should have came.
B. Hin
But they rose.
Jadakiss
They got different roles, different coaches, man.
B. Hin
They've been in that role the whole year.
Fat Joe
They've been looking for Deuce to pass the ball and be a team player. When he comes in, he's punching you.
B. Hin
All right, Deuce here. Shoot it here. First Deuce.
Fat Joe
Little white boy know. Come in, shoot.
Dame Lillard
He's saying, TJ and them coming to the game and they aggressive.
Fat Joe
Oh, no, they not playing.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
So why you gotta be like.
Jadakiss
They getting put in the game to impact the game scoring. Deuce is getting put in the game to do a little bit of everything. They telling us.
Fat Joe
I single out Deuce, all of them.
B. Hin
Okay?
Fat Joe
None of them came out like, what's. My man. Last year's playoff, we had what? Precious. Precious was balling precious.
Jadakiss
Got about five minutes the whole playoffs.
Fat Joe
Well, whatever he got, he was a liability.
B. Hin
Same liability. This how you know they love the Knicks, bro.
Fat Joe
You know where the Knicks messed up at? Completely. Before this season started, they should have gave that money to Hardens. They sign and he didn't. Right now, Hardenstein is up, gave it.
Jadakiss
The OG and something.
B. Hin
And y' all got Cat.
Fat Joe
The money.
B. Hin
Y got Cat?
Dame Lillard
Yeah. You'll take Cat over Harden?
Fat Joe
No, I'll take Cat. All day over. Pretty much over a lot of people.
B. Hin
So, Cat, your top five.
Fat Joe
He. He's the best scoring big man in the league.
B. Hin
No.
Fat Joe
Who's better?
B. Hin
Yokich.
Fat Joe
All right. Yokich. Joel Embiid is done. Joel Embiid got training wheels. He's done, bro. He's slipping and sliding, bro.
B. Hin
I like this.
Fat Joe
He's done, Papa. Two hot minutes on a big game. Sit down. He's done. God bless him. I don't want nobody to get hurt. He's done, Joker. You're right. Do you know why Joker's so good? Because you were taught to play a certain way. Every American player was taught to play a certain way. Aau. Dribble the ball. Don't throw it across the court. Yo, wait for the. This. Wait for this. So all of y' all, no matter how ill y' all are, y' all learn from the same theology. Jokers in Serbia, Montenegro, doing this, they tell you not to do. Throw it across the court. Do this. Do that nobody. This guy doing you're not supposed to do. And you're not ready.
Dame Lillard
Slow.
Fat Joe
He's doing everything. They gave you a manual, the papers. They said, yo, don't do this, bro. He's doing it. And he's get. He's getting it in. Because you're not expecting that to happen. Boss flying across the court. You're like, no way he threw that. Like, who would throw that? That's why he's so good. But yes, you got one there with Joker. Then you got Cat. Who else you got?
Dame Lillard
I need.
B. Hin
I'll say Cat second, if you're not gonna count.
Fat Joe
I like that. You keeping it a buck or.
Jadakiss
Huh?
Dame Lillard
Is Wemby a bit?
Jadakiss
We'll be on the way.
Fat Joe
I love Wemby. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Dame Lillard
I love is when we score.
B. Hin
Have you? Yeah. Who you want, Wendy or Cat?
Fat Joe
No.
Jadakiss
Look, answer the question.
Fat Joe
I'm answering the question. He's not better than Cat. He's just not. Does he has potential like I'm. Yo, I was. I was fake cheering for the spurs. Maybe. Cause Pop got sick. Shout out to Pop, man. One of the greatest coach ever. But that draft and all that. I was going for the Spurs. Like, I want to see Wemby take over the league. And I want them to get a team around him. Because I'm really, really a fan of Wemby.
B. Hin
So if they get Kevin Durant, what? It's over.
Fat Joe
Don't do that. Kevin Durant, he got beef with me sometimes. I don't want to go there with that.
B. Hin
Yeah, the Spurs. Was he trying to go to the Knicks?
Jadakiss
He want to go to Spurs.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Kevin Durant going to help anybody where he go, but he got to stay healthy. And we don't wish bad health on nobody. But, you know, we seen this a million. Don't do that, Kevin. Kevin Durant. You're a funny dude. You know what you doing? He giving me the eyes. Like, go in, Joe. Go in N. I'm not going in because I with kd, man. But you know, he'll help any team they bring him in. Even if he came to the Knicks, that he. He would help the Knicks.
B. Hin
Oh, you want. You'll take KD for the Knicks.
Dame Lillard
Who you training?
B. Hin
You give up. That almost happened too.
Fat Joe
I'm not giving nobody up.
Jadakiss
What? How you getting KD?
Dame Lillard
What you talking about?
B. Hin
You keeping M&OG over KD.
Fat Joe
All right.
B. Hin
You keeping Mikel and OG over K.
Fat Joe
KD right now, yes, I'm dealing with. I'm Dealing with youth. I'm dealing with health. I'm dealing with. We got a great nucleus. If we get a better bench, why am I gonna. Listen, not me, kd. Nah, don't do that. Kd.
Jadakiss
That's why you lost that coaching job with kd.
Fat Joe
Oh, but by the way, let me tell you something. Tell you something. Worldwide. West is my neighbor. I caught him walking, right? He finally. He don't stop for me. You know, he works out every day, so I always catch him working out. Like, yo, Wes, he's one of them workout guys. He's not gonna talk to you while he's working out. He's. He stopped the other day, so I'm talking to him. I said, yo, West, I actually did something I wanted to do forever. I got the courage to say, y' all want to coach the Knicks. He said, you are definitely not coaching. Yo, but I asked him, I said, yo, man, I want to coach the Knicks. He said, yo, Joe, you are definitely not even. Like, he had a little malice with it, too. Like, you are definitely not coaching the Knicks.
B. Hin
You made the coach of the Knicks. What was our game plan would have been for the papers?
Fat Joe
Well, us, you know, with me personally. I have a no loss policy, Joe.
Dame Lillard
Be realistic.
Fat Joe
Yeah, come on, bro. I have a note. I could look at my stats at the ruck. I won seven chips.
Dame Lillard
I was gonna ask you about EBC label.
Fat Joe
Seven chips, brother.
Dame Lillard
We can talk about that.
Fat Joe
I don't lose. I get down on the concrete with the players and stretch and get the rocks and pebbles.
Dame Lillard
EBC is different than the NBA. We're gonna tap into your.
Fat Joe
Of course I'm not delusional. I think that I'm motivational. I think they should give me a job to come up in there, at least as an assistant coach or somebody who comes to the camp and talking to them, a consultant when they need that. You know, Isaiah Thomas used to come to me, meet with me.
Jadakiss
Which one?
Fat Joe
Isaiah Thomas when he. When he coached the Knicks.
Jadakiss
Yo, Zeke, the grown. The grown.
Dame Lillard
He talking about the Pistons with Jada.
Fat Joe
See if you got Instagram or your sons are tuned into what's going on right here with 520 and Joe and Jada. Please confirm so that you say his caps.
Jadakiss
He used to come to you for the.
Fat Joe
He used to come to me decisions for the next. Yes. When they had Zach Randolph, they had Steph Eddie.
Jadakiss
Somebody give me a hood off the shelf.
Dame Lillard
The truth, Joe Spiel.
Fat Joe
I want to come to me.
Jadakiss
Hey, what did you tell him?
Fat Joe
You know, I got kicked. I Got Kareem Reed to try out for the Knicks. Kareem Reed was my point guard for the ebc. For the ebc.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I actually. But, you know, you smoking all that shit. Zeke had to tell me. Joe, man, you know, he's just like. You know, you can tell he's smoking. You know what I'm saying? I try. Oh, they know he came in smoking. No, he's just. They running drills and he can't. Look, Kareem would love you. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just trying to say Zeke gave me. You know, when your man said, yo, I could be in the NBA, let me. I actually did it. I really got the guy to try out for the Knicks. Off the street.
Dame Lillard
Niggas don't know that, Jada.
Fat Joe
No, no, I did that.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I got a butter. Who's my. Probably my sec. One of my best players in the rucker. I got him to Fordham University with coach Bob Hill. I did that. I walked up in there and said, yo, he's the one. Put him on the foot.
Dame Lillard
Can we get a quick story with you and Isaiah Thomas? Like, why did he choose you to come to.
Fat Joe
I'm telling you right now. Cause he knew I knew he wasn't crazy around that time. Them chips was flying outside in the summer. He knew this guy knows something about coaching. And so I would sit down with him and I. You want to know the truth? What I would tell him, I don't know.
Jadakiss
Why you losing?
Fat Joe
Remember the team they had at the time?
Dame Lillard
Jamal Crawford?
Fat Joe
They had Jamal Crawford, Zach Randolph, Steph Marbury, Hal Harrington?
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You tell me why they lose. I'm like, yo. But, Joe. That's what I'm saying, Joe. He's like, yo, Joe, I got the best guys. I said, they gotta play the. It was too much individual ball at that time, okay? It was too much. Give me the rock. I'm doing this. You know, that's something we gotta work on as Knicks right now. Jalen Brunson, we're nowhere without him. But he holding that ball too much.
Jadakiss
Who else gonna give us a bucket?
Fat Joe
It don't matter. The ball gotta go. Not Mikel Bridges. He need to really go, though. I think. I think he gotta go, Joe. No, no, no. Not get traded, okay? I mean, like. Like, I think he's better than he letting himself be, okay? And so Jada said, yo, they don't let him get the ball that much. That's cool. I think that guy is very, very talented, and he needs to think more Offensively, and he'll impact the game in a different way.
Jadakiss
You know, coaching. You went back to your hometown to coach your high school. He played at Pike High School. What was that like? What is it?
B. Hin
I was trying to be like, fazo.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
B. Hin
I was trying to get some chips.
Jadakiss
Did you get seven chips?
B. Hin
Nah, I ain't want nothing. But now we. We working, though. We got a good group this year. I always wanted to get back to where I came from.
Fat Joe
Still coaching. That's beautiful.
B. Hin
Yeah, it's fun. I mean, we got some talented guys, and I wanted to help somebody least live out their dream like I did. So we got a bunch of guys that got offers from some high major D1 schools.
Fat Joe
Beautiful.
Jadakiss
That's what it's about.
Fat Joe
You know, my brother, Rich player. We. We said he at the bathroom last time. Let's big him up this time, right? The man's a legendary football coach in Miami Dade, and He sent about 20 something kids to the NFL. So he changed their lives. I know that.
B. Hin
He owe me a jersey, too.
Fat Joe
He got to get it for you. Let me tell you something, right? Let me tell you something. Speaking of coaching, Better World Peace.
B. Hin
Nah, he can't be the coach of when. The Knicks. The Knicks. We're auditioning. You see the issue out there?
Fat Joe
Hold up. Look, look, yo.
B. Hin
Nah, that's a meta.
Fat Joe
Yo, it's out there. He think I just got it off the clear sky.
Dame Lillard
No, it's out there.
Jadakiss
Should have been ask you ask.
Fat Joe
You could coach that boy standing with a bow tie, the suit like the little guy talking about, I want to be the coach.
Jadakiss
He going hard, but you even getting an interview. Are they.
Dame Lillard
They should. Y. Y' all trying to. This. Why y' all out of pocket? Why are y' all going to these other organizations trying to steal their coach? What's wrong with y' all?
Fat Joe
You want to know why? You want to know the real spill?
Dame Lillard
Yes.
Fat Joe
You want to know the street spill? Cause you in the South Bronx.
Dame Lillard
Yes.
Fat Joe
It would have been Fowler. If they would have coached, they would have fired Coach Tibbs and had the coach behind his back already that they talked to to put him in there. We would have been like, yo, you did him dirty.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You understand what I'm saying? They at least fired him, and they.
Jadakiss
Say they about to have to call him back.
Fat Joe
They gotta spend a block.
Jadakiss
They gotta spend the block.
Dame Lillard
Why don't y' all go get Mark Jackson?
Fat Joe
I love Mark Jackson. That's deeper than.
Jadakiss
That's deeper than up here.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's David. And goliath That's David and Goliath. But let me tell you something. David and Goliath. Let me tell you something.
Jadakiss
Are you sure you say the right one?
Fat Joe
Yes, it's David and Goliath. Because it feel like he going up against a giant. You know what I'm saying? He deserves it. Those chips at Golden State was his.
Jadakiss
To me, at least one.
Fat Joe
I don't know what happened, why they got him out. I've been begging for Mark Jackson before Tibbs came. Mark Jackson's been the guy. Don't know what it is. Right, but you learned in coaching, right? You got to the league. You know, they say that term, you could take a horse to the water, but you can't make them drink. Yeah, Michael Jordan learned that shit fast, huh? Yeah, the goat. The greatest of all time. He went on that sideline in Charlotte. He saw them guys wouldn't play like him. Yes, sir. He tried to coach.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, he was the owner, but he was the owner.
Fat Joe
He was on the bench calling.
Dame Lillard
He was like that, though. He smacked Malik Monk in his head during the game.
Fat Joe
Yeah, but the point I'm saying is, even the greatest of all time can't get guys to listen. The greatest of all time, bro do.
B. Hin
A good job at coaching his team and playing. He do.
Fat Joe
That's funny. He got homeboy J.J. redick. You got to give him some credit.
B. Hin
You said greatest all time, so I was trying to make sure we did it right.
Fat Joe
No, no, no, no. Oh, that's it? That's what you want, The Bible moment? This the shit you saying LeBron is better than Michael Jordan?
B. Hin
Nah, I'm not. I just think LeBron, the greatest, he did everything.
Fat Joe
I think you delusional. It was too much delusional. We can't have top tier people being delusional. We already got everybody delusional out here. You're adding to the schizophrenia. You got this shit fucked up. What do you think, Jada, my business.
Jadakiss
Partner, I don't like to chime in on that. I think MJ's the greatest in everything after that. However you want to put it. Kobe, Braun, Bron. Kobe.
Fat Joe
Cool, cool.
Jadakiss
MJ is the. Is the goat of all goats.
Fat Joe
You seen that?
Jadakiss
I know. You can't even put them with them.
Fat Joe
You see that, Utah?
B. Hin
Oh, y' all saying cause of, like.
Fat Joe
The Mona Cross maniac? No, not greater Monas. He's better than everybody. You're wearing his shirt.
Jadakiss
Only black and Latino people do that.
Fat Joe
20 years after he was older.
Jadakiss
If it wasn't no, Mike, it wouldn't be no, none of them other niggas. And that's. I'm not.
B. Hin
We.
Fat Joe
We.
Jadakiss
We wrong for comparing Bron with Jordan anyway. Compare Jordan with some. One of them niggas that came out when he came out.
B. Hin
Nah. Yeah. I mean, they different errors. But I'm just saying, like, for me.
Fat Joe
At this point, we got to compare Jordan to, like, Messi or like Serena Williams.
Jadakiss
What?
Fat Joe
You know, just. We got to compare coach of everybody. Yeah, yeah, like that.
Jadakiss
Yeah, that's how you gotta go.
B. Hin
You right.
Fat Joe
Basketball.
Jadakiss
You're absolutely right.
Fat Joe
You would have got to stop.
B. Hin
No, but think about it. Braun been the man since he been the greatest player since he was 16. Like, we it been.
Fat Joe
I love LeBron James. I am a stand, bro.
Jadakiss
When the Knicks lose his own ended. Ron did something nobody else.
Fat Joe
Every year the Knicks lose. I jump on the LeBron bandwagon. One stadium. I love LeBron James. I do believe he deserves all the glory. He is not Michael Jordan. And I don't like this new generation sometimes. I'm watching. Hold up. Let me say this. No, no, no. I'm watching this. This is disrespectful. This is all the way free. I'm throwing the foul right now on this. I've seen highlights with young kids saying, look right there. He wasn't really fouled. He scored two there. That's how he has 30 in the game now. If they would have called the pick, he would have had two less points. Have you heard? Yo, bro, the man great.
B. Hin
Nah, he great. Yeah, it's him. And Bron.
Fat Joe
Well, Kobe got something to say? Nah, about that, too.
B. Hin
Yes, Kobe Cole. But. But Bron did, bro. It's crazy.
Fat Joe
Let me tell you quick. Just a quick.
B. Hin
They both out of height.
Fat Joe
Yo, yo, just a quick. Quick.
Dame Lillard
Jada, I know you don't want to speak on this, but you have to talk.
Fat Joe
You have to talk. Thank you. Political Records.
Jadakiss
Played the most years than.
B. Hin
Anybody, but they all had the same.
Fat Joe
Opportunity, and he's still averaging 25.
Jadakiss
Incredible. But you can't take nothing from Mike or Kobe.
B. Hin
I'm not taking nothing.
Fat Joe
That's the blueprint, bro.
Dame Lillard
Jordan on the Wizards in a better league.
Fat Joe
Let me explain something to you. What these people doing. They doing it in basketball and they doing it in hip hop, okay? They come in here, they're smarter, and so they come in here and they say, all right, Jordan average 28 points again. Let's just say I think it's 32 or something, right? I'm going to score 33 to 34 every game cool, Jordan. That's why all of a sudden LeBron said he ain't chasing rings. Whoa, he been chasing them rings. That's all we seeing. We don't Even know if LeBron is better than Steph Curry. We don't know that Curry. Let me explain something to you, Case.
B. Hin
You let this go already.
Jadakiss
I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened.
Fat Joe
Steph Curry got the look right now.
B. Hin
I love Steph.
Fat Joe
No, no, the two guys. He changed the whole game, brother.
B. Hin
That's a fact.
Fat Joe
Because he got seven footers thinking they shoot threes.
B. Hin
That's a we.
Fat Joe
These are the two guys. You think LeBron want to see Steph Curry catch another ring before him? It's impossible, brother. They the two fighting.
B. Hin
I don't think Brian can no more. He broke all the records. He like got the most buckets ever.
Jadakiss
Everything you could do and more. Yeah, at this catch, he just playing for cardio.
B. Hin
Yeah, he just don't want to go home yet.
Fat Joe
Change the narrative now he cares. He wants the chip. What are you talking about? The guy tries to die on the court. You know what you gotta do to be 40 years old and score 20 points and all that? You gotta be bionic sleeping in the hyperbaric.
Dame Lillard
That's why he the best ever.
B. Hin
That's why he liked that. Oh, man. So you gotta look at the teams he ran into. I know we can talk about some other stuff, but you look at the teams he ran into. No disrespect to Mike, but some of them teams, they not the kd. Steph Klay, Thompson, Draymond, Charles Barkley, Suns team Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley, they better.
Fat Joe
Than KD and them. Let me explain to you the competition.
B. Hin
Stop.
Fat Joe
Competition. Listen, stop, listen. Competition is the competition. We always had. We couldn't get to the championship cuz Reggie Miller was busting our ass. Everybody got somebody or somebody. There's always an arch nemesis. They always a crew to get busy. They always this. You not just waltz into a championship.
B. Hin
Nah, never.
Fat Joe
The guy just was far superior than everybody. The guy wasn't scared to join the dunk contest. He. Oh, he took a year off, the guy.
Jadakiss
He never went to game seven.
B. Hin
He never went to game seven.
Dame Lillard
You right, but one game said, but who?
Fat Joe
They played.
Jadakiss
Out.
Fat Joe
Remake them shots. I watched, I watched. I was at the game. I watched a ball. Come on, man.
Jadakiss
Who we playing?
Fat Joe
Get bobbled into Ray Allen's hand and won the chip that was bobbled. My thing is this.
Jadakiss
Here we go, here we go.
Fat Joe
Now you want me to talk this. You want me to talk to you?
Dame Lillard
Let's go.
B. Hin
We locked in.
Dame Lillard
We coming here for.
Fat Joe
I'm locked in.
B. Hin
We locked in.
Fat Joe
I'm in the building, in Jersey, park my car in the parking lot.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
I come up to the lobby, cuz you got to change elevators to go to the apartment. I get to the lobby, there's about 30 people, all white, Asian, everything, sitting in the hallway. I want to see what's going on. The security guard has a TV this little on the thing. And it's the championship, right? It's the Lakers playing. Kobe Bryant is playing the game. They down three, he's in the game. The other team got the ball. He hits the ball off the other team, the ball hits the guy game. All 30 people said, all 30, that ball was thrown in. He did that curl, popped the three with an and one, and won the fucking game. They all knew it before he touched the fucking ball. That's greatness. How many times I seen LeBron walk in? No, no. How many times I seen LeBron at the end of a game walking in that. That ain't Kobe Bryant, bro. I mean, I watched it in real time with 30 people.
Dame Lillard
Bryant averaged 40 in the finals.
B. Hin
Let me ask you this, did you watch the finals with Brian Hawk now, Eagle dollar?
Dame Lillard
No, he ain't watched that one.
B. Hin
You ain't see that one?
Dame Lillard
He ain't watched that one.
Fat Joe
I actually, I actually. Remy Ma is a Golden State fan. I actually was always rooting for LeBron and I felt like it was unfair for him. He had them boys on all cylinders. He had Curry, he had Thompson, igoodala, Draymond Green. Let's not erase what he brings to the game.
B. Hin
Shout out to Drake.
Fat Joe
Them boys was shooting that. I watched LeBron run from this side to that side of this side of that side. I was feeling sorry for him. I kept arguing with everybody like, yo, this ain't fair though. This ain't fair. And they was like, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack. Splash, brother. Whack, whack. He literally had four other guys with him and was running coast to coast trying to. He had no chance, brother. Sometimes you get up against an opposition where you have no chance.
Dame Lillard
Fair enough. So that's to Jeff's point, is what he's trying to tell you. Jordan never had to go through that.
Fat Joe
Type of adversity because he was better than everybody.
Jadakiss
You gotta blame God, whoever they put in front of Fade Away Barbecue Chip.
Fat Joe
He Had to fade away when he went against. By the way. By the way. Michael Jordan was shooting with Act Boston.
Jadakiss
Everybody do that. Teams, though.
Fat Joe
He had everything. He had some horrible team before he.
Jadakiss
Got Scotty and all them.
Fat Joe
He did.
B. Hin
Finals against the Spurs. Who was on that team?
Fat Joe
Got sweat. No, no, no.
B. Hin
He took.
Jadakiss
He shouldn't even count. No, you rather.
B. Hin
You rather give Beating the.
Jadakiss
I rather don't get swept than nothing lose.
B. Hin
Losing the first round.
Fat Joe
You want to know something? You want to know something in the final.
Dame Lillard
You lost in the first round.
Jadakiss
You can't even streak a Celsius. It's no celebration at all.
B. Hin
Yes, sir.
Fat Joe
In this conversation. Michael Jordan, LeBron right there is where you turn the TV off.
B. Hin
Bam.
Fat Joe
On LeBron. That is over. Sweat. It's over, guys.
B. Hin
I made it at 22.
Jadakiss
Turn it back on.
B. Hin
I was 22.
Jadakiss
He did. He did something.
Dame Lillard
Jordan was in the finals at 22.
Jadakiss
They both did something. Nobody's ever gonna do.
Fat Joe
What makes you think LeBron is better?
Dame Lillard
Because he's been doing this. He's been having a Microsoft Team.
Fat Joe
He got the best health, God bless him. He got the best God for that.
Dame Lillard
Who fault is that?
Jadakiss
Now?
Fat Joe
Y' all don't want to bring God in.
Jadakiss
Mj, I ain't taking nothing from Bron. I ain't letting y' all take nothing.
Fat Joe
That's how we feel. We preserve the culture.
B. Hin
Okay? Fact.
Fat Joe
Even in hip hop.
Jadakiss
Kobe under the thing.
Fat Joe
Kobe, you really. Yo, Kobe. What? You trying to act like Kobe ain't the one? Kobe did the Achilles, went over there and tied the two shots. But you know what kind of pain that boy was in to go up to that line and shoot them two shots? That.
B. Hin
That's different.
Fat Joe
Stop.
Jadakiss
What about the Lakers being sold for 10 billion?
Fat Joe
I love it. I'm all about making money. I don't care if somebody sells stock.
Dame Lillard
You want to be a cultural otoest.
Fat Joe
I just want to make money.
B. Hin
How much do you think the Knicks would go for if he sold it?
Fat Joe
We bigger than everybody.
Jadakiss
Seven, eight, nine.
Fat Joe
No, no. We bigger than everybody. It's where the money at.15. This is why. No disrespecting, God forbid, but this is why.
Jadakiss
If they so for.
Fat Joe
This is why the Taliban want to build this with the money at, bro.
B. Hin
It just keep going.
Fat Joe
Our tickets is out of control. You know, all the money's in New York City. I don't know if people want to be delusional. You could be from anywhere else. You got to come up here for them hedge fund guys. The money's Here, right?
B. Hin
How about y' all seats at the like them playoff. We saw that shit out of this world.
Fat Joe
They the shit's always playoff time them shit. 140,000 to se.
B. Hin
Second row was cost a lot.
Fat Joe
Oh, no, no. Indiana was up there by Bill Br. The second row was how much? The second row was stacks. Indiana, Boston, Boston. The great Boston Arena. We can't take nothing from the Boston self. Their. Their courtside seats was going for like 20. This was going 140,000.
B. Hin
What? New York.
Jadakiss
You up for 20?
Fat Joe
You getting beat up by Macho Man Savage fans and like that hoaxers. Hulk Hogan. Yep.
B. Hin
You got. You got the big beards. He got name for everybody. So what's them called?
Fat Joe
Showing you love that will choke you out your whole brother.
Jadakiss
This is down lower than Luke, right?
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Jadakiss
Luther is like.
Dame Lillard
What's Luther?
Fat Joe
The sad truth is. The sad truth is all the way up. The sad truth is it's too expensive. It's New York City. All the money's here. So you guys, any story you tell in music or basketball or anywhere and I please guys. I love everybody from always there the money come back here.
B. Hin
Anybody you think basketball. This is where basketball is the greatest. In New York. I can't say that I know it's Indiana, but I was gonna let you go. I was gonna let you go. Yeah. I was gonna let you. But like we don't.
Fat Joe
I can't say that I know that, you guys. I know the only problem with Indiana, we got Indiana fans. But we need restaurants to stay open past 9 o' clock in Indiana. I'm. I'm not. I'm tired of eating beef jerkies for dinner over there. Like, you gotta stop.
B. Hin
I know we got hot dogs on the street.
Fat Joe
No. You want a fucking. What's the beef? The beef. You are not getting waggoo after nine out there, bro.
B. Hin
You gotta tap in with Freaky Mike for the. For the hot dogs next time you.
Dame Lillard
Touch down at the corner. If you staying downtown in my city, you gotta go to the corner. You gonna get you a glizzy. Your two hot dogs is ready for.
Fat Joe
You at all 24 hours. I got super love for you and Indiana and I got super love for Cleveland. But after 9 o' clock, unless you're from the hood and you know the lady that cooks something, you are eating a beef jerky for dinner from the gas.
Dame Lillard
You just gotta tap in with us when you come on.
Fat Joe
I have to.
Dame Lillard
We got to.
Fat Joe
Because I went out there. I was out there for the All Star.
B. Hin
All Star Was bad.
Fat Joe
He came on the blizzard.
Jadakiss
We had a.
Dame Lillard
You gotta tap in with us. We was outside.
B. Hin
Cause I was here for All Star here. That's when we made it. Yeah.
Fat Joe
Name a food. The weirdest food in the world.
B. Hin
It was open.
Fat Joe
Hold up. Name a weirdest food in the world.
Dame Lillard
You gonna say y' all got it.
Fat Joe
What you want to say for Cambodia? You eat that shit four in the morning in New York, man.
Dame Lillard
I ain't about to say that.
Fat Joe
Good as hell.
Dame Lillard
I knew you was gonna.
Fat Joe
It's a bigger difference.
Dame Lillard
It's a bigger city. It's a bigger city, man. I want to ask y' all about music though.
Fat Joe
Okay?
Dame Lillard
Hip hop. Where do y' all feel like the state of hip hop is right now? And do New York breed the best rappers lyrical lyric wise? That's my question for you.
Jadakiss
That's a real question.
B. Hin
Nah, that ain't a question.
Dame Lillard
The second part, it's a debate. I'm on Twitter, y' all not. I'm telling y' all, it's a debate.
Jadakiss
I mean, Twitter is not a fair thing because it's people from. It's people that ain't they liars without. I don't care what.
B. Hin
Talk to him.
Dame Lillard
I don't know. They were saying. They were saying this is the California.
Jadakiss
Say the hip hop. They were saying la, you know, I.
Fat Joe
Mean, you want me to do that?
Jadakiss
I want you to do that.
Dame Lillard
They were saying la, but you know.
Jadakiss
Where the Mac you know this is. Just write it down.
Dame Lillard
Okay, So y' all. Okay, y' all giving y self how y' all feel about the state of hip hop then?
B. Hin
Right now, the state of hip hop.
Jadakiss
As long as it's. As long as it's active and alive is always a good thing. But I always say the same thing. It's like a Ferris whip. No, I mean it just keeps turning some new, it goes back to some old. Some more new comes out in it. I mean, it's about being able to stay on the wheel. Of course, everything that comes out, not going to be a cup of tea or not going to be something you play in a whip or play, you know, on your own. But it's. It is what it is. You don't like everybody's game. Yeah, that's how music is.
Dame Lillard
Because you'll be on a lot of people features. That's why I asked you that.
Jadakiss
But I mean, the pay is good. Sometimes it's paid. Sometimes I like the song.
Fat Joe
Now I'll say I salute all the youth facts. Even if I don't like your music. Because the kid that's putting out music successfully, he's not robbing people's mothers at the gas station. Right? And I also see them as not themselves. So I know that Jada takes care of his whole family. He got his crew. He helps them with their bills. He pays them. One guy is like 30 jobs. So when I see a young kid rocking and God forbid he become like Travis Scott or something like that.
Jadakiss
No, he's opening.
Fat Joe
He got a thousand guys getting paid off of him. I look at that now, we in a different time, you know, we've been waiting forever for a group of young kids to come back out and start spitting. Now you have individuals that spit, you know? But like I said, I don't criticize what they do. But, yeah, you know, I think more. More of the youth is party driven rather than lyrics. So they make them like them party records, you know? My daughter right now, my daughter loves this record called the Deuce. The Trey, the forward to the tray. To the deuce, the tray. She got me like, I'm like, throw on the boys. The men like, like, I'm due to the trade out of here, bro.
B. Hin
But the boys are men.
Fat Joe
Like, yo, she playing that.
Dame Lillard
That's because Tick Tock that took over, too.
Fat Joe
My God. Daughter comes. Yeah, Remy's daughter, Kenzie, she throws on the Tick Tock mask. Deduce the Drake the did it to the day. And that's great. He's obviously a hit, right? And I like that record.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
But, you know, it's more about party dance, you know what I'm saying? Rather than, you know, the days of when we fell in love with hip hop. Originally, it was about, you know, I just saw a clip with Eminem coming over here talking about the time he heard Rakim for the first time. He was like, yo, I had never heard nobody like this putting, you know, and we come up from that. You know, I used to bust my bubble. This guy's more gifted lyricist than me. You know what? Fat Joe, Fat Joe, Fat Joe. Love hip hop. Fat Joe was a hustler who had to teach himself how to rap as a hustle.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You understand what I'm saying? And get better and better and better. This was my way out. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm going through. It wasn't like he was born to rap. No, no. I'm telling you the truth. Eminem, Jay Z, big punk. These are guys game. These guys were born Kendrick Lamar. These guys is Nazis. They was born around there. It was no Other occupation. I'm sure he would have figured it out. We selling coffee now. Kiss Cafe, right? But this was it. He was blessed with this profession. Some people are carpenters, some people are painters. Some people are this. Some of these guys, it was just a no brainer. This is what they're born to do, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's different rappers. You know what I mean? I could look at Master P and say he was never lyrical. I could say he was one of the greatest businessmen that ever played this game and put a whole state on his back. You see what I'm saying? So it's this. You know what I figured out? You know, because I truly am a hip hop historian, I should have the bifocals on the shit where you pull out your pocket and be like, like I'm telling you, come on.
Jadakiss
I should be one lens, but not.
Fat Joe
I should have one that could see if it's a real diamond or, you know, I said, I have that. The one thing I figured out that everybody ain't figured out. And he got it. And I guess I got it, right? The people gotta like you. Okay, so the love affair comes with Cardi B being funny on Instagram, telling jokes. Then she gets on love and hip hop and then she gets one to go Bodak yellow. She's at it. But people love her. People love French Montana. It's not about, yo, let's battle French Montana against Rakim or Kendrick Lamar. That's not what he do. But people love him. And when people love you, you know, that's. That's it right there. That's the support. You know how many guys I've seen, there were the greatest rappers, the greatest singers, the most talented. I'm talking about the most right now. I'm thinking of one guy who's an R B singer. He actually trains all the R B singers that we love. He put out records with stars. And this because he's phenomenal. Never blew. Handsome guy, sings like an angel on earth.
Dame Lillard
Yeah.
Fat Joe
You know how many guys I know wrote hit records for artists, but when they wrote for themselves, it. It went nowhere. And so I digested and soaked all the analogy into hip hop, realizing that they gotta love you.
Jadakiss
We've been seeing these one on one matches.
B. Hin
Oh, yeah.
Jadakiss
Beigeland, Lance, you gonna get out there and give anybody the smoke?
B. Hin
Yeah, me and Brendan Jennings supposed to play here in the summer.
Fat Joe
Wow, that's gonna be a good one.
Jadakiss
I'm pulling up LA N. We be there today.
Fat Joe
One on one.
B. Hin
Yeah. Lou. Him and Lou Will played a little bit already. It's supposed to be me, him, Ty Lawson.
Jadakiss
They played a little bit like they.
B. Hin
Played the three, but they tried to say with just a little preview.
Fat Joe
Do you agree with Melo, our guy saying that he'll smoke anybody one on one?
B. Hin
Yeah. Mellow, definitely, but I don't know how. I don't know how healthy he is. Mellow, different. Mellow, different.
Jadakiss
Brooklyn mellow.
Dame Lillard
Mellow is different on one player ever, huh? The best one on one player ever.
Jadakiss
And I definitely don't disagree.
B. Hin
Besides. Besides Kevin Durant.
Dame Lillard
Yeah, besides kd.
Jadakiss
I gotta give a shout out to Crump Shreven Low. That's this spot my brother bought me. My brother Styles bought me this I wc. Is it IMC or iwc? Excuse me. For my birthday. It's Mean Joint, okay? From Shreve and Low. Appreciate you. Make some noise for my brother.
Fat Joe
Appreciate your time. Yes. Great experience.
Jadakiss
We appreciate y' all.
Dame Lillard
Appreciate y' all, man. Thank y' all.
Jadakiss
You know what it is? We family for life. We locked in by volume. Shout out to the volume and we going to keep rocking on. Peace, y' all. The volume.
Title: Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss are joined by Club 520 Podcast: Jeff Teague, DJ Wells & B Henn
Release Date: June 24, 2025
Host/Guests: Fat Joe, Jadakiss, B. Hin, Dame Lillard (Guest from Club 520 Podcast)
The episode kicks off with Fat Joe and Jadakiss introducing their special guests from the Club 520 Podcast, highlighting the podcast's influence and popularity in controlling the "airwave cyberly."
Jadakiss (00:09): "We got special guests today, y' all. You know what I mean?"
The hosts attempt to start the show with a music segment featuring Dame Lillard and B. Hin. They discuss the term "Irkin jerk," reflecting on evolving slang from "E and J" to "Irkin jerk," attributed to Gen Z.
Fat Joe (00:56): "What does Irkin Jer me?"
Dame Lillard (01:00): "Irkin jerk. Get us your local."
B. Hin shares the inception of Club 520 Podcast, detailing its roots from an existing opinion podcast and the transition into a shoe-focused show post-retirement. The basement club named "Club 520" served as the initial meeting spot, although filming eventually moved elsewhere.
B. Hin (02:02): "We was supposed to shoot in the club, but we ended up shooting it somewhere else."
The conversation shifts to challenging moments the podcast faced, including a potentially canceling guest. They also reminisce about a viral moment discussing Doc Rivers' hairline during All-Star Weekend, highlighting the humor and candidness of their discussions.
Dame Lillard (03:07): "We had one that almost canceled us for real."
A playful banter ensues around the "rewind" product and the term "glizzy," referring to hot dogs. Fat Joe humorously brands himself a "serial glizzy eater," sparking a light-hearted segment about favorite hot dog orders and the cultural significance of the glizzy in New York City.
Fat Joe (11:03): "They got a room, okay, in the Garden. The glizzy room that the celebrities go to."
Jadakiss narrates a pivotal moment where he was assaulted in Kansas City, which motivated him to embark on a fitness journey. The hosts share personal anecdotes about overcoming adversity, emphasizing the importance of physical fitness and resilience.
Jadakiss (16:32): "When I got home, got with my man Giant from the bartenders and start working out."
A substantial portion of the episode delves into NBA-related topics, focusing on the New York Knicks' performance, coaching strategies, and player comparisons. The hosts passionately compare legendary figures like Michael Jordan and LeBron James, debating their impacts and legacies within the league. Discussions also touch upon current team dynamics, player performances, and hypothetical coaching scenarios.
Fat Joe (31:34): "That's a bar. It's a visions of a bench."
Transitioning from sports, the conversation shifts to the state of hip hop. Fat Joe and Jadakiss critique the current trends, noting a shift from lyrical depth to party-centric music. They commend traditional hip hop pioneers while expressing concerns over the genre's evolving dynamics.
Fat Joe (67:08): "More of the youth is party driven rather than lyrics."
The episode concludes with final thoughts, shout-outs to fellow artists and contributors, and affirmations of their commitment to the culture and community.
Jadakiss (73:29): "We appreciate y' all. Peace, y' all. The volume."
Podcast Resilience: The hosts discuss overcoming near-cancellation and maintaining authenticity, emphasizing the importance of allowing guests to express themselves freely.
Cultural Terminology: Exploration of evolving slang and its impact on communication across generations.
Sports Passion: Deep dives into NBA dynamics, player comparisons, and team strategies reveal the hosts' extensive knowledge and passion for basketball.
Personal Growth: Personal anecdotes highlight the transformative power of adversity and fitness in shaping one's journey.
Hip Hop Evolution: A critical perspective on the shifts within hip hop, valuing lyrical prowess over current trends focused on party anthems.
Community and Legacy: Emphasis on preserving cultural integrity and supporting emerging talent within both the sports and music industries.
The episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" featuring Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and guests from Club 520 Podcast offers a multifaceted exploration of sports and music culture. Through candid discussions, personal stories, and passionate debates, the hosts provide listeners with valuable insights into the NBA's intricacies and the evolving landscape of hip hop. The episode underscores the importance of authenticity, resilience, and cultural preservation, making it a compelling listen for enthusiasts of both sports and music.