Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Bill Bellamy tell HILARIOUS STORIES about Biggie, Michael Jackson & Eddie Murphy

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Bill Bellamy tell HILARIOUS STORIES about Biggie, Michael Jackson & Eddie Murphy

Release Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Joe Crack the Dawn (Fat Joe), Jada (Jadakiss)
Guest: Bill Bellamy

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Overview

This episode of The Herd, hosted by Fat Joe and Jadakiss, features legendary comedian and actor Bill Bellamy. The trio dives deep into iconic stories about Bill's rise in comedy during the hip hop golden era, interactions with the likes of Notorious B.I.G., Michael Jackson, Martin Lawrence, and Eddie Murphy, and reflects on the intersections between comedy, hip hop, and Black culture. The episode is energetic, candid, and packed with one-up storytelling, both hilarious and poignant.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Bill Bellamy’s Comedy Genesis and the Def Comedy Jam Golden Generation

• Bill outlines the unmatched group of comedians he came up with:
  • “There’ll never be another class better than us. We dream team. ... Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Chris Tucker, Chris Rock, Cedric the Entertainer, Steve Harvey, Dave Chappelle...” (07:19)
• Highlights how stand-up comedy and hip hop were deeply connected in the early '90s streets and clubs (06:17–07:44).
• Bill reflects on the era’s camaraderie and cross-pollination between rising hip hop and comic stars.

Giving Martin Lawrence His Flowers

• Debate on whether Martin Lawrence gets enough credit:
  • “I don’t think people give Martin Lawrence his flowers the way they should. ... There was nobody funnier than Martin Lawrence on Def Comedy Jam.” (09:18)
• Joe and Bill riff on how Martin Lawrence’s natural, off-the-dome humor made him like a world-class freestyler of comedy (09:50–10:09).

Wild Early Days: Storytelling Smackdowns & Industry Humility

• Fat Joe discusses his ambition to do a one-man show based on his storytelling skills, inviting icons like N.O.R.E., Irv Gotti, and Rick Ross to try and one-up each other’s wildest stories (20:03–21:46).
• Bill underlines the importance of timing in storytelling and notes Fat Joe’s legendary status for being everywhere in hip hop for decades (21:54–22:03).

Legendary Industry Tales

The “Booty Call” Origin Story (16:27–17:22)

• Bill Bellamy recounts how he coined “booty call” based on a Mike Tyson moment:
  • “I just asked her to come to the room for a second... at 3 in the morning? ... That’s a booty call, right?... Next thing you know, I got a little small role in Who’s the Man... That’s insane. ... 30 years ago, bro.” (16:27)
• Joke spiraled into movie deals, pop culture catchphrases, and international recognition—though Bill missed out on starring in the film Booty Call because he chose a dramatic role instead (17:55–18:21).

Story: Bill Introduces Notorious B.I.G. at a Philly Club

• The first “party and bullshit” riot:
  • “I don’t know that Big got this song called Party and Bullshit. ... I’m hosting and I’m about—give it up—then the riot started! I thought I was about to die. ... That scene in the Biggie movie came from that moment.” (24:19–25:43)

Fat Joe’s Dangerous Encounter in Lebanon

• Joe describes performing for fans overseas and being invited by would-be Taliban admirers to “shoot rockets,” which made him flee to the airport in terror (25:46–27:16).

The Legendary Lake Havasu “Biggie Can’t Swim” Story

• Bill details coaxing a hydrophobic Biggie onto a floating party pod during a raucous MTV Spring Break (27:34–29:09):
  • “Big had to be on the pod... He was like, ‘Nigga, I can’t swim, nigga. With my fat ass falling in that water, nigga...’” (28:36)

Will Smith, Michael Jackson, and Closet Shenanigans

• Joe retells Will Smith’s viral story about meeting Michael Jackson in a closet after a BET Awards riot, admitting, “When I saw that shit... my storytelling days is over. When I seen Will Smith tell a story, it’s like, alright, it’s time to go.” (29:33–30:44)

Bill’s Unnerving Michael Jackson Interview

• The tension and security of interviewing MJ:
  • “Mike had to go to the bathroom. Yo, they went in the bathroom. It was a dude on the toilet. My man was like, ‘Break it off, fam!... You done? Boom, boom, the door. My man had to wipe his ass, get out.’” (37:41–38:36)
• Bill discusses how MJ’s team destroyed his list of questions, giving insight into how controlled access to MJ was in his prime (39:45–40:05).

Health, Hollywood, and Surprises

Fat Joe Nearly Saves Tommy Mottola’s Life

• Joe candidly shares a panic-inducing moment when music exec Tommy Mottola nearly chokes during breakfast. His storytelling gets the whole room laughing, but he underscores how shaken he was:
  • “No, not with Fat Joe. The craziest shit ever. I got scared to death. I’m catching anxiety explaining it.” (43:04–43:45, 44:51–45:18)

Jada’s Own Near-Miss Driving Emergency

• Jada shares a dramatic diabetic episode where he needed to pull a friend’s car out of traffic mid-health crisis.

  • “He’s in the driver’s side, I’m praying 75 Our Fathers, Bismillahs... He starts going like he’s talking gibberish... As soon as I threw it in park, he stepped on the gas. He would have went into the building.” (47:22–48:59)

• The conversation emphasizes the importance of managing health—especially in diabetes—within the community, and not lying to yourself about medical conditions. (50:01–53:06)

Relationships, Privacy & Social Media

• Bill weighs in on keeping marriages private and the pitfalls of social media oversharing:
  • “Keep your house private, bro. ... Once you start putting people in your house, they in your house. ... They get to change the attitude or the altitude of your house.” (54:02–54:38)
• Fat Joe jokes he’d never survive a reality show marriage with cameras on him:
  • “I knew I wouldn’t have a wife after one season... I go, ‘Yeah, you know, this this that,’ and I walk away. Be like, bitch—that shit on camera.” (55:14–55:25)

Eddie Murphy, Comedy, and Urban Movie Theaters

• The group reminisces about seeing Eddie Murphy’s Raw, sneaking into theaters as kids, and being kicked out for laughing too hard or falling asleep (59:05–60:45).

Closing: Bill’s Family Holiday Movie and Final Reflections

• Bill Bellamy plugs his new family-friendly holiday comedy film, "Worst Christmas Ever," about love and blended families during divorce (53:14–53:50).
• They end with playful banter about fat stacks, big shows, staying fly, and the importance of creating family and cultural moments.

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Memorable Quotes

• On the golden era of comedy:
  “There’ll never be another class better than us. We dream team... It was like so many funny.”
  —Bill Bellamy (07:19)

• On Martin Lawrence:
  “I don’t think people give Martin Lawrence his flowers the way they should. There was nobody funnier than Martin Lawrence on Def Comedy Jam.”
  —Bill Bellamy (09:18)

• On storytelling:
  “Joe, I don’t know. I think you are one of the greatest storytellers. Cause you just been in this shit so long, and you got good stuff.”
  —Bill Bellamy (21:46)

• On coining 'booty call':
  “I read the article when Mike [Tyson] was like, ‘I just asked her to come to the room for a second. ... At 3 in the morning? That’s a booty call, right?’ ... Next thing you know, I got a little small role in Who’s the Man...”
  —Bill Bellamy (16:27)

• On Michael Jackson’s security:
  “Yo, Mike. Yo. ... Mike had to go to the bathroom. Yo, they went in the bathroom. It was a dude on the toilet. My man was like, ‘Break it off, fam’... My man had to wipe his ass, get out.”
  —Bill Bellamy (38:01–38:36)

• On reality TV and marriage:
  “They offered me all types of money to have a reality show, but I knew I wouldn’t have a wife after one season.”
  —Fat Joe (55:14)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• 07:19: Bill Bellamy remembers the legendary ‘dream team’ of early 1990s Black comedians.
• 09:18–10:33: Paying homage to Martin Lawrence’s comic genius—his spontaneity and streetwise relatability.
• 16:27: Bill explains the birth of “booty call,” its Mike Tyson connection, and pop culture trajectory.
• 24:19–25:43: Bill’s Notorious B.I.G. “party and bullshit” live riot hosting experience.
• 27:34–29:09: Lake Havasu story—Biggie’s fear of water and MTV party antics.
• 29:33–30:44: Fat Joe retells Will Smith’s MJ closet story.
• 37:41–38:36: Bill interviews Michael Jackson and experiences MJ-level superstar security firsthand.
• 43:04–44:51: Fat Joe saves Tommy Mottola from choking—real anxiety, comic retelling.
• 47:22–48:59: Jada’s diabetic driving emergency, risking both lives to pull over safely.
• 53:14–53:50: Bill previews his new movie, “Worst Christmas Ever.”
• 54:02–55:14: Reflections on privacy, marriage, and staying off reality TV.
• 59:05–60:45: The group reminisces on Eddie Murphy’s Raw and getting thrown out of theaters.

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Tone and Style

The episode is lively, raw, and unapologetically honest, blending streetwise wisdom, nostalgic storytelling, and side-splitting humor. The camaraderie is palpable; every story one-ups the last, often with punchlines and vivid details from the speakers’ personal experiences in hip hop and comedy.

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Takeaways

• The 1990s produced a once-in-a-generation cohort of Black comedians whose crossover into TV, film, and music influenced the culture at large.
• Legendary artists like Biggie, Michael Jackson, and Eddie Murphy remain larger than life, and their encounters with comedians and rappers birthed stories that blend hilarity with insight about the industry’s inner workings.
• Relationships, health, and privacy are recurring themes—showing that beneath the surface, even legends wrestle with the same real-life issues as everyone else.
• Storytelling—whether in music, comedy, or conversation—is the thread that ties hip hop and standup together in both eras.

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For New Listeners

You don’t need to know every reference to enjoy this episode: it’s about the art of living large, laughing louder, and outlasting adversity—with every story illustrating just how intertwined comedy and hip hop are in shaping the culture, and how the OGs keep those stories alive for new generations.

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That'S odoo.com like he's trying to figure out how I'm gonna get. Tommy's a real deal. Yo, Jada, you crying? Go.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, it's funny, bro.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, yeah. What up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.

[Jada]

You know who it is. Your boy Jada. This the Joe and Jada Show. Every show, legendary. Every show iconic. When you think of today's guest, you think of funny. You think it's some of the best haircuts ever. You think of some of your best movies. Come. You think of the box office, you think of standup, you think of my early career. VJs MTV was very inspirational and influential to your career if you can make it on there. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, let's make some noise for Bill Bellamy.

[Bill Bellamy]

Thank you for having me. I'm in here, Joe.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, how you get a last name like Bellamy?

[Bill Bellamy]

It's just. It just worked out.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You're already rich.

[Bill Bellamy]

It sounds like it. Sound like I already had money. I was broke as fuck. Bill Bellamy, yo. He's here?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, he's here in Newark, New Jersey.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. People used to say, is that your real name? I was like, yeah, because I'm actually William. But William sound too formal. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, bill Bellamy.

[Jada]

The two B's, it was good.

[Bill Bellamy]

It goes good.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's the same. So my man Billy, though, you switch.

[Jada]

It to Will, like.

[Bill Bellamy]

Sir William.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

My man Billy Blanco. His name in Spanish is Guillermo.

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[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. Guo.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Guillermo in Spanish is William. You know, I mean, that's not about it. Yeah, boy, Billy Blanco, man. That boy, you know, he was with the high school teacher. She be like, guillermo. One day we had a house party. She popped up with him. I said, damn, he taking the teacher down. What? My man Billy Blanco, many years ago.

[Bill Bellamy]

He got some grown booty, huh?

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[Jada]

With the teacher.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

With the teacher at the house party. We all up in the house party. He got the teacher with him.

[Jada]

Nah.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, I ain't never had down early. He did his number.

[Jada]

That's numbers.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, Bill Bellamy. What's up? Beloved you look great.

[Bill Bellamy]

Thank you, man.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I love to see. I love to see, you know, our OG's looking great.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, man, I work out, I take care of myself, I laugh all the time, you know what I'm saying? I'm always enjoying that part of my life and I'm doing what I want to do, man, you know what I'm saying? We at that point, like you said, og, we got the experience and the talent, which means now we, you know, we can move the way we want to move.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's sad cause we want everything early, but they always tell you as you get older, you figure it out.

[Bill Bellamy]

I wanted my shit immediately. I remember when I first came in the game, I was like, fuck the weight, let's get it today. I'll never Forget, it was 91, 92. I'm in New York, I live in Jersey, I'm coming over here doing stand up and shit, just trying to get on. This is when hip hop was popping. 91, 92 cats. We had record labels, people was like, you know, everybody was pushing their records. You know, you had your street teams. This is like vintage 90 hip hop era. And so standup was sort of like the brother and sister of hip hop. UCAS was coming to see us, we coming to see you. Everybody know everybody. And it was just one of those amazing times for me. And I just happened to get lucky to be in the right place and just get on, like, just, you know, be funny enough, have the right swag, have the right gear, you know what I mean? And then be on point. On Def Comedy, who would you say is your.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Who are some other comedians that came out?

[Bill Bellamy]

I got the best class ever, Joe.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I wanna know ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

There'll never be another class better than us. We dream team. You gotta figure like 90, 91, 92. Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence, Chris Tucker, Chris Rock. Damn. Listen, it don't stop. Cedric the Entertainer, Steve Harvey, Dave Chappelle, like, I mean, just Joe, Tory, like, it's just DL. It's just like all of us came out. It was like so many funny.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Bernie Mac, come on.

[Bill Bellamy]

That's the funniest people I ever seen in my life. Like Tommy Davidson. Like, just think, I just had an interview a couple days ago and we was talking about there will never be a time where that many people were able to become stars. A lot of people became TV stars. We had all them sitcoms.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Were you crossing paths with like Jim. Jim Carrey?

[Bill Bellamy]

See, I didn't, I didn't grow up. Jim Carrey was on fire though. But he was in. He was on the West. West Coast. The only person I met back then was Damon. So I met Damon in the early part of my career.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

They was on the West Coast.

[Bill Bellamy]

They was on. But they was from New York.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But they was living.

[Bill Bellamy]

They was already. Cause I remember auditioning for In Living Color, like, yo, this is show they gonna about to do on Fox. It's gonna be nuts. It's gonna be the real Saturday Night Live. That's what the. That's what the word was at the time. And so I didn. Jamie Foxx was selected to do that, and Tommy Davidson and Jim Carrey. And that show was phenomenal. That's all 90s. So you got Martin, you had Jamie, you had In Living Color. I know I'm forgetting some of the shows, but they were all on at one time.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I heard you in the interview say that Martin Lawrence was the best Def Jam comedy host ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

Ever.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Do we think he gets his props or is it that he's just so like. Cause he feels like an introvert when it comes to interviews and all that? Like, he don't do. We feel like Martin gets his props like he deserves.

[Bill Bellamy]

I don't think. I don't think people give Martin Lawrence his flowers the way they should. Because let me tell you something, there was nobody funnier than Martin Lawrence on Def Comedy Jam. Like, if two comics was in a car crash, you wouldn't be mad if Martin was hosting. Cause he gonna carry it. And the way he was hitting the audience and freestyling like it was vintage Martin Lawrence. Like, I mean, I enjoyed him immensely watching him just be natural. I didn't know Martin Lawrence was that funny. I was like, God damn.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know, Martin Lawrence was almost like your man. Like, you know, you got a boy that's mad funny. Yeah, he became a store a comedian or nothing like that, but he was just dumb funny. But the guy put it on on tv, right? Like, everything he was saying was like, shit that we go through in the.

[Bill Bellamy]

Hood every day, yo, but it's off. It looked like it was off the head. Like, to me, I felt like Martin Lawrence was like a rapper that could freestyle better than everybody. You know what I mean? Like, he could just go in the studio and be like, bam, bam. He don't need to write it down. You be like, damn, how you think of that? To me, that's how Martin was. He was so fast. Like, if you go back and watch the clips and Big Bird, like, he has iconic jokes that he set off.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He a good liar.

[Bill Bellamy]

I mean, he tore a hidden play up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's true. Because you know, when the cops stop you, sir, I was over there. What are you talking about? You were like, damn, this nigga could lie. Like, on an impulse. Like, you know, oh, your wife catch you doing some shit? You know who's Burger King?

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Who's Burger King?

[Bill Bellamy]

Calling you at three in the morning?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What you looking at? Oh, I was looking at watches and graffiti. There's new sneakers coming out.

[Bill Bellamy]

They graffiti.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Don't let them see the Explorer. God damn it. That algorithm out explore paint boy. Don't let them see that. You see that? My graffiti Hip hop Grandmaster flat. Like, you better be ready for that.

[Bill Bellamy]

You gotta have a dummy. A dummy pants.

[Jada]

Gotta have a dummy Explorer.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, you gotta have a dummy show his wife he hit the phone. House paint, you know, nature's best.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

You know, roofing.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You fix how the French people are making these breads now, Ma. Like, it's a. Incredible. It's incredible. See this?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I dare you. Switch that up. That'll be like.

[Bill Bellamy]

They used to trap on Wednesday.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You switch that bread up, bam. One time, that be like, booby trap Wednesday.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, they used to have that, like, when. When laptops first came out. Like when you was working in a cubicle and you was doing something that you wasn't supp. Do you have that dummy screen to come down when your boss come over? We need that on our phone.

[Jada]

The stock market comes.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, we need that. That's the new app, guys. Whoever with the AI and all that, that's the shit you need to do.

[Bill Bellamy]

You just made me think of something funny. You know what they should do, like, for. For chicks who go on dude's phone, the phone should blow up. You just have blue stuff all over your face.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's cool.

[Jada]

Like the money for the bank.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. Like if your girl go on your phone, they take a picture and blow up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Boom.

[Bill Bellamy]

So you come downstairs, she's sitting there with a whole blue face.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I say, what?

[Bill Bellamy]

You in my phone? No.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Social media killed love, man.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, social media is tough.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Social media killed.

[Bill Bellamy]

You could get in there.

[Jada]

It didn't kill it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What it did was I killed love.

[Bill Bellamy]

You think twice.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Because every time you feel. I'm like, damn, Bill Bellamy, he been with his wife so long, then that shit come in the middle with the fucking scribble in the middle. That shit that comes out glass.

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Breaking news. She be like, bro, ah, shit.

[Bill Bellamy]

I've been married 24 years. It is no joke. How many people broke up in 24 years?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Bill Bellamy]

I mean, I remember I got married in 2001, right? People who were going out, dating, they've been together forever. They got married the same summer, and they was broke up in the fall. Like, that's how crazy I was. Like, yo, so when you live in Hollywood and you living, you trying to do your career, you trying to do everything, you don't have no, like, positive, like you said, you don't have any positive. Like, oh, man, they could go to the movies with us. No, they don't talk no more, you.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Know, but people crazy Hollywood, everybody each other.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. And then they only like each other, man.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's her ex, man. And the family tree is a cousin. Is. This is out of control.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, it's out. It's out of control.

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah. Yo, you ever seen them? You ever seen the family trees when they do that? Yo, God bless everybody, man. I don't wish that. When I tell you, boy, the family tree, they'd be like, this one's slept with this one, and the kid is from this, this.

[Jada]

And everybody shits that come down.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Them shits is everybody's cousins. Yeah, yeah, everybody's a cousin.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That crazy.

[Jada]

How hard is it making the transition from stand up? And then, boom, you're on the big screen, you're doing lead roles.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, it was. It was crazy, man, because, you know, things happened kind of fast for me. So I, like. I got on. I got on mtv. That was huge. Cause at that time, you know, that helped that wave of hip hop. We started selling records like crazy cats going on tour, me and you, you naughty Queen Latifah, all the cats that was coming up at that time, you know, it was an explosion. And I remember sitting there on my show going, man, I'm interviewing all these movie stars. I want to be a movie star that looks so fly. Like, they got their movie premiere, they got this stuff going on. So I had aspirations. I was like, one day somebody gonna interview me. You know what I'm saying? And so next thing you know, I got a little small role in who's the Man? I was in who's the Man? Yeah, I know. It was the most hip hop people would ever.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, you know, Joe got a nice.

[Bill Bellamy]

Little resume on the low cheekbone. Yo, they cut half of Joe head.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

On half of my cheekbones.

[Bill Bellamy]

You just see Joe here in the barbershop.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, what's up? This was, like, it was a big look. Yeah, I think of one of the.

[Jada]

Funniest movies was a big look.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's a big look when you. Nobody, you coming in the game and Naughty by Nature in there. This one and that one. That lover, Dr. Dre, Nick, half a cheekbone. I was 136. I was shown here and I think another movie. I like it like that. I played like a prisoner. They had like my eyebrows and cancer. I said they gonna see it was why they should have showed my face. Because I became a big dog in the game. Yeah, you look back, that's that value. It would have aged well. Fat Joe in that. Yo, let me tell you something. I don't get high, okay? But one of my most poor out of body experiences was that where I felt I was high was in the movie Booty Call. I could not believe this shit. This shit was so hilarious. I must have watched this shit 30,000 times. And every time got funnier and funnier and funnier. You knew that shit was gonna be crazy.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, no, no, no. Because here's the thing. Booty Call came from a joke. Like, I did not know that Booty Call was gonna be something that's just gonna stick this 30 years ago, bro. Like, that's insane. Like, I did the first time I did the joke. And the joke came from Mike Tyson. Cause if you remember, Mike Tyson got caught up in Indiana. So I read the article when Mike was like. I just asked her to come to the room for a second. We were talking, and I'm like, at 3 in the morning? And she missed Indiana. That's a booty call, right? I said it just like that. And I said, oh, shit, I'm onto something. I went on stage and I kept playing with it till I got it dialed in right. Boom. Took off life. Crazy movie, comedy, Taco Bell commercials, foodie call. I seen this on Friends. I seen people say it on. They jacked the. Out of me.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

What about the.

[Bill Bellamy]

I did not. Jada.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, we never fattened shit. But what about the. Yesterday's pricing, today's price? I watched bank conversions. Dudes dancing and all that shit. And then I was like, yo, could we sue? We got. Sue everybody. It was like, no, sir, we don't have it. You know, you don't have that pattern. But the scene with the fucking. The Reynolds rap or the plastic. What the fuck?

[Bill Bellamy]

That was. That was with Jamie. That was with Jamie and Tommy Davidson, right?

[Jada]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

So I didn't do. I didn't do the movie. They did the movie. You came up with the term booty. I came with the term. And then what happened? I was supposed to do that movie. I chose to do Love Jones. I had just did a comedy special called Booty Call. Then the movie came out Booty Call. And I said, I want to be a dramatic actor. So I said I'm a jump off in this movie with these real actors to kind of flip it. And that's why I wasn't in that movie. But I was offered that movie.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's almost like being a Disney star.

[Jada]

But how to Be a Player was still. That was my shit.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But how to Be a Player, that was good. So I went zigzag. So I went dramatic. Hollywood came back then came back with, with how to Be a Player. So that was like 95ish.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That was dope. They ain't stereotype you and just make you like. Like Fat Joe. Always been a killer in every movie. Even if. What's the chase? You saw me in night school. I'm beating a guy up, stabbing them and fucking with comedians. It's like they always want me to kill somebody. Your voice.

[Bill Bellamy]

But I can see you as a good chef. I was a conductor, I could see.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You as a chef.

[Bill Bellamy]

Nobody wants me to be a chef.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

A school bus driver, nothing. It's always he's a mafia killer, something. He's a criminal, he's a dis. I can't shake this.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. If you was a school teacher, you'd still be a killer.

[Jada]

You got to be willing to wear the different haircuts like Samuel.

[Bill Bellamy]

You gotta throw a Mexican dude that.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Every role, he's victor. He kills somebody, you say I you man. What, what's the, what's his training dream?

[Bill Bellamy]

I.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You what? What's the training day? The Mexican guys, they. You ever heard your pushed in, homie? I'm like the New York. You ever had your pushed in more, homie. Guess what, Joe, we got a role for you. What's that? You're a drug dealer killer. Oh really? An assassin as well. Thank you.

[Bill Bellamy]

Thank you very much.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

10 toes down.

[Bill Bellamy]

10 toes down.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That shit crazy. You know he called me the greatest storyteller in here.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yes, sir. Hold up. You got some stories, Joe man.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'll tell you who could take me out. See, so I wanted to do and still want to do.

[Jada]

I'll tell you who could take you out. Barbara Walt.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, I want to do a stand up. Not a stand up, a one man show.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's all about stories in my life and I had a Segment of it which somebody's gonna steal. Now, when they hear this, where I would take. If Bill Bellamy was in attendance, I'd be like, yo, Bill, come up here and tell your Ellis story. And after you finish, I gotta come with a better one. So I had, like, Nori on the list. I had Irv Gotti, Rest in Peace, on the list. All the greatest storytellers. And I was gonna go like, they tell a story like Rick Ross. Yo, Rick Ross came to the studio one time. He had just had that heart scare. He had something with his heart, right? And for some reason, he called us. And the first place he wanted to come was Cool and Dre studio. I don't know why. So he shows up, and we're chilling, and we just.

[Jada]

There.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And he just goes, fentanyl. You touch it. I don't understand. From the jungles of Mexico. Maybe sentinel plastic ain't enough. You smell through the plastic. You had to. I'm trying to. The minute that man stopped, I said, sample, sample, sample. He looked at me like, oh, shit. I said, sample. I said, yo, it's like 88. We used to walk down the block and tell the dolphin, sample, sample, sample. They come and I throw it in the air, and they'll dive like pigeons, y'. All. I don't know why I try to one up everybody in every story ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

Joe, I don't know. I think you are one of the greatest storytellers. Cause you just been in this shit so long, and you got good stuff. You got.

[Jada]

Isn't it about timing?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, it is.

[Bill Bellamy]

But you gotta think, Joe, for hip hop. Joe been around every single person.

[Jada]

You need a cabin with a fireplace, with a flannel, with snow outside. Yo, just telling hip hop and gangster stories.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, yo, yo, the one that had me in tears when you said you wanted to meet Bruno Mars because you heard he was Puerto Rican.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, that had me crazy producing this shit last night at the Harbor View. He ain't want the ball feed. Like he didn't want it. He knew it. He ain't want that. But that Bruno Mars crazy, huh?

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, Bruno Mars is so fucking funny because I didn't see the punchline coming. I'm thinking Bruno Mars, Filipino. Like, I'm in la. I thought Bruno Mars was Filipino. I did not know he was 1000% Puerto Rican.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He was both.

[Bill Bellamy]

He both. Okay.

[Jada]

But I didn't know he was more the other one. Cause he didn't give you no love. But he quad.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I think we did something. I think we did something to his dad or somebody in a relative who was very bad guys talk to him.

[Jada]

They beat up his father.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I don't know the lies. I would go to White Castle, somebody say something. I said, smack his cheek off. Like in the two in the morning. Everybody waiting for White Castle. I turn around and finish the onion rings. Trying to hit me with the yellow.

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Ah, the flag. But my point is, what's up, Joe? When he. The way he reacted, I said, we must have somebody did terrorist cross a bit. But, you know. But yeah, that's one of them.

[Bill Bellamy]

I got it.

[Jada]

So you said.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You said.

[Bill Bellamy]

You want me to tell you a crazy story.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I need a straw. I need a stroke.

[Bill Bellamy]

I got one for you. I don't know. I don't think I ever told this one. So I'm brand new. I'm coming up in a game. I'm on mtb. So I'm hosting this, like, showcase. Puff is there. I don't know Big yet. Big is brand new. I want to say it's Webster hall, but I'm not sure where it's at. So Puff comes up to me and I'm hosting a joint. He's like, yo, man, this is when they was calling them Notorious BIG he wasn't Biggie yet. He was just Notorious BIG and they something legally came. He couldn't say that name. He had to become Biggie. Whatever.

[Jada]

Case in point, he switched Biggie to Notorious, right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He was Biggie first.

[Bill Bellamy]

He was Biggie first.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Benny Swiss and Notorious B. I G. You with me?

[Bill Bellamy]

All right. That's where we at. So, you know, when you host and they come up with you with a little bit of, you know, information, they write it down and say, this is my man. New artist right here. You know, make sure this shit gonna get crazy, but don't bug out. Gonna get crazy, but don't bug out. So I don't know that Big got this song called partying bullshit. And so 50 come on stage and I'm thinking, it's a riot, but it's a part of the song. And so I'm hosting and I'm about. Give it up.

[Jada]

Oh, he thought it popped.

[Bill Bellamy]

Did you run out the back door?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Did you run out the back door?

[Bill Bellamy]

No, but it was so crazy because I was like, yo, what the fuck? I'm hosting it. It's a Rio. They was like throwing each other around and pushing this party.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And.

[Bill Bellamy]

And I'm like, yo, this is. Cause I'm about to die. Like a right? And then after the song was on, everybody left. But in that moment, it was like a mosh pit. Did you ever see that live?

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[Jada]

A fight and then the song comes back. Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

And they had it in the movie. But the guy that was in the movie, to me, it was actually me. That was me doing that scene. That was that. That scene in the movie came from that moment.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I was in Lebanon.

[Bill Bellamy]

Just Lebanon.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I was in Lebanon, right? I had a show. That's when they call me Ali Kashani. Salam alaikum. All my people, I do a show in Lebanon. It's so incredible. I come back to this hotel, right? When I come back, three guys stand up like synchronized swimming. Fajo, My brother Salaka. How you doing? The guys, the guys are waiting for you. Oh, the guys, they want to shoot rockets with you. I said, huh? The Taliban, they love you. They wait. I said, my got this tight. Okay, Okay. I met the Taliban, right? The Taliban.

[Bill Bellamy]

You bullshit.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No. So I told him, hey, hey, my plane's already leaving this. I get upstairs, I grab them bags so fast. I went to the airport like 1 in the morning. This ain't take off to 10 in the morning. Like, I ran to the airport.

[Bill Bellamy]

You was that. You was real pre check.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

The real Taliban shoot rockets with them. Came through, was like, yo, shoot rockets out of you. Yo. I ran so fast to that airport. I was like, let's go, let's go. And everybody knew. They heard that. They was like, yo, we out of here. That let's go.

[Bill Bellamy]

Right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We stood in the airport overnight, just shook to death.

[Jada]

It was down with you.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Why you that land up? Look anyway, that's one. Yo, we got one.

[Bill Bellamy]

Hey, I got another one for you. So this is another one. This is a big story.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We on the stoop.

[Bill Bellamy]

Can I give you this one?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I want to hear it.

[Bill Bellamy]

I don't think I ever told this one. So we in, we in Lake Havasu. We're doing. Remember Lake Havasu? Didn't you do it? Remember when we did the spring break?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Spring break?

[Jada]

I think you was there.

[Bill Bellamy]

You was there. It was like 92. I'm thinking roughly 90.

[Jada]

No, 94.

[Bill Bellamy]

94.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Ain't even have the bounty around his head now. Yeah, he ain't had no bounty.

[Bill Bellamy]

So get this. So big is on now. Nobody knows Big cannot swim. So I don't know if you remember this shit. We had the pods on the water, right? So in Lake Havasu. This is my first time going to Arizona. I get there, they tie off the boats and they party. From boat to boat to boat. Bunch of white kids, they having a good time. They drink as hot than a motherfucker, right? And so Big had to be on the pod. So I'm standing there and Big's like.

[Jada]

Bud, how the fuck up a good.

[Bill Bellamy]

Old that pod, nigga? I said, what's the problem?

[Jada]

It was like, nigga, I can't swim, nigga.

[Bill Bellamy]

With my fat ass falling that water, nigga. I was, swear to God. And I was like, yo, Big, they not gonna let you fall in the water.

[Jada]

It was like, nah, man, I gotta do my shit online, Boo Goo.

[Bill Bellamy]

But they had them floating. I don't know you. I think you was there. There was some Big go back and look. I cannot make this up. I don't know how they hypnotized him like a team to get Big on that pod. Cause he was terrified of falling in the water. That just popped up.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You wanna know who's crazy, right? So I was going to tell you.

[Bill Bellamy]

He got one?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, I actually don't have one, but I'm going to tell you about one. Okay, listen. Somebody can put Fat Joe out of business in the storytelling game. I'm watching one day on Instagram, and Will Smith decided to tell a story.

[Bill Bellamy]

Okay?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He said, man, I'm hosting the BET Awards. Everything beautiful. This one and that one's there. He said Michael Jackson was in the audience. He said, all of a sudden, it turned into a riot. He said his whole life he wanted to meet Michael Jackson. Will Smith want to beat Michael. So he said they rushed him out on his security. And he said they threw him in a closet. He said he was in the closet, it was pitch black. And he was in there like, you know, the whole place was wild. And he heard a voice. He said it was Michael Jackson. They threw him in the same closet. He's like, hey, Will. Will turned around and was like, huh? He didn't even know what to say. He said, yo, I met everybody in the world I could. He didn't even know what to say. He said, oh, Mike. Mike said, that guy shook 90s messing it up again. How many know? He got so much fun. When I saw that shit, oh, my God. It was like I knew Fat Joe. Storytelling days is over. When I seen Will Smith tell us story, he's like, all right, well, it's time to go. I was like, yo, don't let this man start telling stories.

[Jada]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

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[Bill Bellamy]

But we have all been through stuff that. This is the beauty of hip hop, to me, that, you know, is so amazing. We have had the pleasure of being in the circle of so many talented people, Right? The era is never coming back. Thank God we're alive to tell the stories. Because the young people can't go back and meet Michael Jackson. They can't go back and meet Big. Can't go back and meet Tupac. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've had. You've had. I mean, golly, we can go on for days. Because they're like little movies in our mind. Like, you make me think of stuff that I wouldn't think of. Cause I'm just sitting here talking to you, and you're like, oh, that reminds me of Boom Boom Boom.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, that's crazy. But, you know, I never met mj. What was it like meeting Michael Jackson?

[Jada]

I never met him.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's the one.

[Jada]

What? Remind me in the Wynter Hotel.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No way. You saw him?

[Jada]

Yeah, like this.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, when I interviewed Michael Jackson, right? And I'mma tell you right now, I was so nervous because Michael Jackson was the only artist to ever debut his video on every network simultaneously. I don't know if you remember that. You remember that? It was. And I was the guy in the middle of Times Square. Get ready for the history. Blah, blah, blah, blah. That was me. I was right in the middle of time Square.

[Jada]

Remember the time, though.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, it was. It was Scream. Remember History? Scream with him and Janet.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

Which blew up. So check this out. So I'm at Sony Music, and they like, yo, Mike, coming in. Be ready. It's gonna be open.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Well, that's about the worst thing they could do to people like, yo, Mike's coming.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yo, Mike. Yo. Like, you see how this is a bunch of people in here? Just imagine this times two for Michael Jackson. Security Publicist, his team, the record label Team Mike was rolling heavy. I will never forget. This is how I realized Michael Jackson's biggest star in the world, right? Mike had to go to the bathroom. Yo, they went in the bathroom. It was a dude on the toilet. My man was like, break it off, fam. My man was like, I'm not done. He said, I'm not done. He said, you done? Boom, boom, the door. My man had to wipe his ass. Get out.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I told you that story about got 5,001. He said his daughter called him or said, now pop is Joe capping. My man got 5001, the designer, they took. They. Rodney Jerk is telling me, yo, come down to Hit Factory, right? You gonna do some shit for Michael. Michael Jackson, right? So he gets Poppy. Shout out to Poppy. Me Dominicano. He gets Papi, who's with him. He says, yo, Poppy, we going downtown. We're going to meet somebody really, really, really, really famous. He said. He said, r. Kelly. He said, no, it's not R. Kelly. He says, more famous. So guys in the studio, and nobody's there yet. So guy said, yo, I'm gonna use the bathroom. He said he went to use the bathroom. And that shit happened. They started looking. They was like, you come in now. He was taking a piss. MJ walked in. He said he pissed on himself, got 5001 and ran out. He didn't. And he was like, yo, Poppy, let's go. Poppy was like, yo, but what's the matter? This. This. He was telling him, be careful. He pissed on himself and ran out the bit.

[Bill Bellamy]

But he was Michael.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He missed all of it. He ran. He was embarrassed. He pissed on himself, bro.

[Bill Bellamy]

Michael Jackson. Security was heavy, bro. And here's the thing. So I'm the host. I got all these questions and shit, right? I got like 20 questions that I think every fan would want to ask Michael Jackson. They looked at that list, they was like, he gonna answer this? This?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

They killed my whole list. I was sitting there like, wonk, Won't.

[Jada]

Won't.

[Bill Bellamy]

That's when Sony Music. That's when Tommy Mottola, you know that era of. Yeah, they was the Mob at that point. My bad.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Now you pointing that feet. That's my guy. Tommy Mottola, man. Listen. That's your guy. Everybody come up here and call it the Mob. Yo, Mottola's killing people, everything. He's my friend, man.

[Bill Bellamy]

He's your buddy. I was. I never.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know, I saved Tommy Mottola.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Tommy, you told me I could say this story when it happened.

[Bill Bellamy]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Tommy Mottola invites me to breakfast upstate, right? So we drive up there. He probably the only motherfucker that could get me up there like that. So he says, yo, let's go eat breakfast. And me and up Rich go up there. He lives over there. Where did Remy do the time at? What's that? Jail? Beacon? Nah, she did it upstate.

[Jada]

No, she was in Girls. No, it was only one.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, she was in Bethel Hill. Right, right. By the way, besides that jail, it is beautiful up there, right? Drop dead gorgeous trees. Bastards. The point is, I go in this place, Tommy orders this big pancake.

[Jada]

We Eating.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And he starts choking. He starts choking like you gave him the high. I was about to give him the hot. Listen, I'm like, tommy, are you okay? Tommy, are you okay? I'm like, yo, Rich. Tommy, are you okay? He's like, the. Was choking to death. I was, we gotta give him the Heimlich. Then the finally went down. He said, hold up, Joe. I said, tommy, you almost died on us. I was about to give you the H. You said, yeah, you could tell a story if you want, Joe, you saved Tommy. Ven it.

[Bill Bellamy]

This.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That almost died in front of me. The man was choking.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, if you don't put enough.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Not the regular choking.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, that get caught in your throat.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I swear to God. That man was like. I was like. But Tommy, he was like, you know.

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[Bill Bellamy]

You never really.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I was like, yo, Tommy. He was like. He was like, yo. I was like, yo, Tommy, are you sure? Are you okay? Yo, Rich. I'm looking at Rich. I think the Heimlich. You know how to do the. He was going. He was fucked up. And I'm like, no way. Fucking Tommy Mottola is gonna die. Tommy Mottola?

[Jada]

That's the song we sing.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, not with Fat Joe. I'm like, yo, the craziest we have. I was like, this is the real deal. I got scared to death. I'm catching anxiety explaining it to you. It was the real.

[Bill Bellamy]

It was the real deal.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I swear to God, it was the real deal. But I'mma tell you the craziest. The craziest is we leave Tommy. Tommy's going in his car. I don't know what it was a Bayback, Something fucking incredible. And the man turned around, he said, hey, I know you like to tell stories, Gab. Fucking tell a story. You say, tommy Bentola's. He killed me, jumped in the car.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my man Jada crying.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

God damn. He hit me with the cap of the cop. He was like, I know you like telling stories. Go ahead, tell him how you save time, even tell her get out of here. Gets in the car, breaks out. I'm like, you hurt me, huh? Yo, that really do. Look, I'm not. We can't demand.

[Jada]

What was he doing?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yo, I'm trying to tell people this really happened. Like he said. I'm like. I said, yo, I said, tommy, are you okay? Now I'm scared to fucking death.

[Jada]

Tommy, I love you.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I don't want Tommy Lotola, but I don't eat Tommy. I don't want Tommy Mottola to die on you. In front of Fat Joe. So I'm like, I'm terrified.

[Jada]

What was Rich gonna do?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Rich was standing there. He might know the Heimlich. Rich was sitting there. I said, yo, Rich, do you know the Heimlich? He was. And you know, Tommy's. Tommy's like a real.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, he's a real dude.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He's a real deal.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

The last thing he wants is the Heimlich.

[Bill Bellamy]

And he definitely don't want mouth to mouth, recessive.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He don't want the Heimlich. Tommy don't want the Heimlich. So he's dealing with it on his own time.

[Jada]

Let me get something.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He's coordinating it. That hurt me.

[Bill Bellamy]

Over here.

[Jada]

Kill me, Bill.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, he's coordinating this. Like, he's trying to figure out how I'm gonna get. Tommy's a real deal. Yo, Jada, you crying? God.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, he said, it's funny, bro.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I love you, Tommy. Tommy, I want to be like you when I grow up.

[Jada]

What was he doing? One more time.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, you gotta.

[Bill Bellamy]

No, no, no.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

It's not a laughing matter. What I'm trying to tell you is I was scared to death.

[Jada]

Show me what he was doing.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You thought it was funny.

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[Jada]

Move.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

If you thought that was the. You thought that was one of the funniest shits I ever said. Eddie Murphy never threw the red leather suit on, though.

[Jada]

What was he doing?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He was. Yo, I was scared. I was terrified. I'm telling y' all about a real story in life. Y' all missing the funniest point in the whole.

[Jada]

Yo, nothing funny.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You missing the whole.

[Jada]

All right, go ahead down off that.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

The man is all the way stable. He's good. I walk him to the car. You know, Tommy Matola's the don.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I walk up to the car, brand new Maybach. I never got money with him either. He's just my guy. But he went into some fly ass car, he turned around, he said, all right. Dang, I know you like to tell stories. Tell him how you fucking saved Tommy Bitolo. Go ahead, Joe. Tell your story. So right, Tom, I t. He pulled off, man, I saw this one. I'm saving this for Bill Bella. Yo, bro, that was a great one, man.

[Jada]

That would have killed me if I was there.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Jada]

You just reenacted and it's killed.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, but you're not listening. I was really scared. Like, I'm not trying to tell you I was terrified. I don't want nobody die in front.

[Bill Bellamy]

Of me, let alone Tommy Mato.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Tommy, you know what kind of.

[Jada]

It wasn't with Tommy Mottola.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Who was it with?

[Jada]

One of my bands from my block.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He caught the Heimlich.

[Jada]

You can't catch the Hind Nick joke. Nah, he went.

[Bill Bellamy]

He had some. He had a seizure, some.

[Jada]

It was somewhere that mixed with something. Like. He went. I lost him. He was driving. No, no, no. I lost him for a minute. Like, he.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He left for me driving.

[Jada]

Listen, he come. He used to drive me home. I used to give him bread to drive me to the crib. So he come pick me up one day. He go get the apple juice. He come out. He like, yo, you ready, man? I'm ready now. We going over the hill. We going to get on the sawmill. We're going to get on the spraying, I think, and we go wild. Got a lot of ills. Like San Fran, right? He'd go over, come down. Now, out of. No way, he buses a U and goes back up. I'm like, this is GPS telling me, with traffic over, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt now. He starts, like, talking about the 86 bets. He starts blacking out. He's not dead now. I'm like, oh, Lord. Please, Lord. Look, he's on. He's in the driver's side, though. Crime in the passage now praying 75 our fathers Bismillahs. I'm doing everything. I'm scared. Yeah, like you. This is worse than Tommy because he's on the wheel. You over pancakes. He's on a wheel, right? Me look. And he start going like he's talking gibberish.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Jada]

I'm saying, please, Lord. I'm looking at him. I'm looking at the thing to put it in park. I'm saying, me eye contact, Dave apart. I call his name one times loud. Yo. Now he's came back. Yo, kids, what's up? Boom. As soon as he did that, me pop. Soon as I threw it in park, he stepped on the gas. He would have. He would have went into the building.

[Bill Bellamy]

Are you kidding me?

[Jada]

Now people honking and they seeing it's me. Yo, kids, you all hide me. I'm trying to. Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

Good.

[Jada]

I'm really not, though. Boom. I get out. I go around. I get him out. Unbuckle his seat belt. Put them. Get them out the car. Put them in the passenger. Get in now. I'm trying to. Like, he going in and out. Hey, yo, what's your wife's number?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Hospital.

[Jada]

Miss you. Listen, what's your wife. What's your wife? Keep asking him. His wife's Number. Then he finally got it. I took him to his wife. I struggled, wiped his sweater. I was half. I was disconbobbulated. And then. But he didn't know at the end.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He was probably having a short wife.

[Jada]

He didn't know enough.

[Bill Bellamy]

He didn't know what that you said, the apple juice.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I thought maybe it would be like a diabetic.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Jada]

Yeah. Maybe now he got some other. You know, a lot of people, even with my mom. Oh, shout out to St. John's the nurses on the fifth floor and the eighth floor. Yeah. A lot of times when you go, when you don't take your medicine, it could cause like a.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Some take your medicine.

[Jada]

You got to take your medicine.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's one of the biggest killers is when. When people need. You're diabetic, but you still want to act like you're not diabetic.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You're not taking. That's what my brother up. He walking around like he ain't diabetic. I'm like, yo, June, did you take your medicine? You're diabetic. That ain't over here. You all type of cakes. And I went to what we did the 50th anniversary of hip hop in Yankee Stadium. I went to. We had a suite.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So my brother's diabetic. The guy who takes care of him is diabetic. I walk up in that, they having cakes and regular. So I'm like. I'm looking down like, yo, these. These dudes want to die.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Shout out to Thor. They trying to kill himself. I sat next to my brother. I said I was so happy that day, but I sat next to him. I was like, I see yo, Joe. He was like, yo, what's up, Joe? I was like, what the you doing drinking Pepsis and cake.

[Bill Bellamy]

And cake.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, he was on it, on it, on it, on it, on it, on it. And did you know that's the worst thing you could do is, like, lie to yourself? Like, you take your medicine, man. It's a lot of people like that. There's people like that are bipolar. Yeah, right. That they don't like how the medicine feels. And then they don't take the medicine and they. And they bugged the out.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You know, you was shook, boy. I would have been shook. Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

But you knew something was wrong. Yeah.

[Jada]

He went out on me, started talking about the.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He started talking JD9 Mets and like that.

[Jada]

It was crazy.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

He started going to the hip.

[Jada]

And he hit the gas.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That boy Kiss was trying to. Yo, this is a art he had to figure out where to throw that on park.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, he was looking. He was looking. But you need that moment.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Okay, at what time am I gonna do the.

[Bill Bellamy]

Save my life. You saved your life on this.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And dive over, put the on pause.

[Jada]

Soon as I threw it in park.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

His wife knew he was bugged out floor when you brought him.

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[Jada]

He was at a thing. He ain't bugged.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

But she knew he had the thing.

[Jada]

Yeah, she took it.

[Bill Bellamy]

Well, if he was doing the apple juice, I'm gonna say he was diabetic. So he's probably going in the shot low. There's low blood sugar, so he. So he was. His coherency was probably off because he's doing the apple juice, probably to bring the sugar level.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'm diabetic. One time that shit happened to me. Because when you take your medicine, you gotta eat. Yo. Diabetes is a trick, man. The fucking insulin. If you don't eat, then you go into a coma. So you gotta eat. So it's almost like it keeps you fat. But that's not the point. The point is I take the medicine. I'm going to the. Thank you, sir. Yeah, I'm on my way to a restaurant and then at that point my sugar drops, right? And sometimes you don't even know how to tell people. So I had to run in the store or get an orange juice. But that was feeling. That's probably one of the worst feelings I ever.

[Bill Bellamy]

Because it's too much sugar.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, no, this was low. Once I drank the orange juice, I was okay. But when it dropped. That's one of them feelings. If you're not diabetic.

[Jada]

Nobody. They can't.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You do not want.

[Jada]

Drop it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Or, you know, I mean, you do not want that. That shit is some real shit, you know what I'm saying? Tell us about the Christmas joint you got going on.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, okay. It's called Worst Christmas Ever. It's a comedy. It's family, you know what I'm saying? It's a clean cut movie, but it's about love, you know, it's about a guy who, you know is going through a divorce during the holidays. And he's trying to decide if, you know, can you get the family together for the sake of the holiday and, you know, we gotta make the right choice. Family over everything, you know what I'm saying? The kids are coming in and the feelings is weird because the wife is moving on and he ain't moving on yet. So I think it's a really fun vibe. And Then also, there's a lot of comedy. And then obviously, you know, I do that. I do that very well, man.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Let me tell you something. How do you feel about. You've been with your wife 24 years. How do you feel about your wife, all her friends getting divorced and they sitting down together talking that divorced, that misery, love. Keep that over there.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah. You know, to me, I think what you just.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

She come back, like, she fully charged with that arrows. All type of rockets, ain't they all?

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[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yes.

[Jada]

This getting divorced, it's epidemic.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, it's. It's tough, man. Like, to me, I think stay away from. The thing is, is just keep your. Keep your. Your house private, bro. You know what I'm saying? You can. Like, I'm very select about what I'm putting on social media, what I'm letting access get to. Because once you start putting people in your house, they in your house.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah.

[Bill Bellamy]

And they start affecting. Yeah. They get to change the attitude of your house or the altitude of your house. Right? And so to me, I think private should be private. Like, I hate how people put so much personal stuff on social media. Like, if me and Jada got a beef, I'm gonna talk to Jada. I'm not gonna go on social media and then say something, and then Jada gotta go on, then come back. I'm old school. I'm like, yo, we on some man shit. Like, yo, man, I thought. And it might not even be an issue. It might be some misunderstanding he ain't even seen. Now it turned into something. Cause Jada cousin called yo Bill talking reckless. You see what I'm saying? It just keep building.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Let me tell you something. They offered me all types of money to have, like, a reality show, but I knew I wouldn't have a wife after one season.

[Bill Bellamy]

Nah, nah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Cause you know, I'm the type. I go, yeah, you know, this, this, that. And I walk away. Be like, bitch, like that shit on camera.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, yeah, you done. You.

[Radio DJ]

You done.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You cooked like you cooked. You do that shit to yourself. You know, you walk away. Yo, yo, what happened? You know, the. I'm done.

[Bill Bellamy]

You done cooked.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, right. And that's when the cousins get involved.

[Bill Bellamy]

And everyone starts having, you know, opinions about your personal life. Right?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

And to me, kill love.

[Bill Bellamy]

It kills love. But also, too. It's. You know, I think as men, you know, I think we have to protect the crib. You feel me? And then you get a chance to create your home how you want your home. You do your job, you Go out, you be the best Joe, you be the best Janet. Then you come home and then you be the best at home. Right? But they can't be blended.

[Jada]

It's no different than Schwarzenegger or. I mean, it's your job.

[Bill Bellamy]

And you go home.

[Jada]

When I go home, I'm Jason.

[Bill Bellamy]

There you go.

[Jada]

I'm saying.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Yeah, but Swanson, you don't got.

[Bill Bellamy]

Yeah, but he was knocking the bait off, I thought that's what I mean.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I mean, he was Milagros.

[Jada]

He told you. I'll be back.

[Bill Bellamy]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think after. Hey, Joe, you left your money, man. You going to the strip club.

[Jada]

You know, he good. I got. Oh, he dropped the. He dropped him a laws on.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I thought it was this.

[Jada]

I didn't see when he dropped Bottega Tony over there. Holy.

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[Jada]

Oh, look, I see it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I put everything like this.

[Jada]

I thought he dropped something light. I buck a hole before he dropped a Mickey Rudy. Oh, I thought I was the only one who came outside with those. He got the Mickey Rooney.

[Bill Bellamy]

He paid for everything. Cash. Yeah, drop the Mickey Root all your money right there.

[Jada]

She just dropped your wallet. I looked over there. You dropped the whole bow tent. I thought you just dropped that. You dropped it.

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[Jada]

You going to the Moniker and. No, he cheating.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No, no, I ain't going like this. I'm going on some Monica.

[Jada]

I know.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You told me, Andy. I look like I'm in the Swiss watch. I'm gonna look like.

[Bill Bellamy]

Isn't that tonight?

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's tonight. I've been waiting a whole year for that. Then I was trying to figure out how I'm gonna bum rush or sneak in. See, if you would have with my.

[Jada]

Wife, I would have did it with me. And you could have did it perform together. It made it much more easy, bro.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

So the point is, I've been dying to go. I was going no matter what, but I have no seats. And then they called me and said, yo, yo, we want you to perform. And I said, that's even. I wanted to sneak in my wife or best friends and like that Fat Joe performing live. But I'm coming in there looking like a mother. A movie up in that.

[Bill Bellamy]

You gonna go get it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Because the story is 20 years from now, they're gonna be like one. One time during the holidays, Granny and Monica was on tour and they went to Brooklyn and they brought out Fat.

[Bill Bellamy]

Joe and boy, yeah, you gotta do it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Did he come out in that white cocaine Fendi fur laser looking like he's floating in that. You know What I'm saying, yeah, you.

[Bill Bellamy]

Got to do it.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You don't. It got to be like that.

[Bill Bellamy]

That's an everlasting moment.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Dude with the goggles on. Him coming with the goggles and.

[Bill Bellamy]

Oh, that's how you're doing it now.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I'm acting up. That's why, you know, I brought out the, you know, artillery, you know what I'm saying? We gotta shine.

[Bill Bellamy]

You're a fly dude though, Joe. I give you a flowers, man. You always had a. A crazy swag about yourself.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Listen, Eddie Murphy, have you seen the documentary?

[Bill Bellamy]

No, I have not. I'll have to. Everybody says phenomenal. Everybody says phenomenal again.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Anything with Eddie Murphy. Any stories with Eddie Murphy? Because I'm like, like I'm on the Eddie Murphy man. I did not realize how much I loved him till I seen this doctor. You know, I'm the guy they threw out of the movie theater when war came out.

[Jada]

Oh, I was about to say. I thought he was about to say they wanted him for 48 hours.

[Bill Bellamy]

I thought he was about to say that shit too.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Let me tell you something. Eddie Murphy raw. The whole project, it was a hundred of us. And I'm talking about derelict bums. We all, we at that adolescent bum, right? Guys sneaking in the movie theater with 40 ounces and all that.

[Jada]

All of that.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

We 40 like is the most ghetto pissed smelling movie theater you ever seen in your life.

[Bill Bellamy]

I got a quick hitting all the.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

100 of them, right? I'm the only guy got thrown out the movie. I was laughing. I'm a.

[Jada]

No.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

You laugh too.

[Jada]

Closets smoking. Me and Styles, they kick this up. What? Me, Styles and Cage, they kicked us out. We woke up cracked. The whole Bay Plaza was empty. The movie theaters, the parking lot, every.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Y' all was hot.

[Jada]

Open the door. That means people had to see us sleeping on the staircase. All of that. We opened the door and y' all.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Was already the last. Y' all was already the last.

[Jada]

It was. We didn't have an album out yet.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

No.

[Jada]

We was about to be popping and then we. Our dudes came around one last time. But they was about to go home. The whole was empty. It was. No more workers, no more people there.

[Bill Bellamy]

God damn.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

That's not Poppy Buddha. You smoke that? Let me tell you something. I'm in the house with smoking and they smoking so much. And that second hand smoke is real because I'm watching BET and they got my man. What was my man? Lavelle Crawford. Lavelle Crawford. The man looked like a human m. M yeah, he had some suit on. He was so fat. His head looked like. I thought the Eminem was talking to me. Like Eminem and Peanut. Yeah, I thought this was the Eminem and Peanut talking to me. He was like, you know, crack is a hell of a drug. You talk. I was like.

[Jada]

That wasn't weak. That's not me.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

I never smoked. But I'm telling you, it was like you in the studio and 20 guys are smoking. I'm looking at him, he looked like a human Eminem. He had a suit on, his head was like crack. You know, I'm tired of smoking crack. I did. Yo, this was the funniest shit ever seen in my life. Yo. Bill Bellamy, thank you, man. This ain't that.

[Jada]

That ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss, make some noise for our guests.

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[Bill Bellamy]

Thank y', all, man. I love y', all, man.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

Appreciate you Legendary brother.

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What a matchup we got, y'.

[Joe Crack the Dawn]

All.

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