← The Herd with Colin Cowherd
The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Drake vs Kendrick beef, comeback Knicks, Met Gala reaction
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Thing is crazy.
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About to light them up out there. The train is coming, baby. The train is coming now. What up, y' all? This is Joe Crack your boy Jada. And this the Joe and Jada Show.
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Sponsored. Presented to you by Boost Mobile. That's right. You know, I mean, let's take care of the people that's paying the bills.
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First things first is the official burner phone to the streets.
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Yeah, I remember. I had a lot of good memories.
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With a Boost Mobile. Right. You know, Boost Mobile was in the game presented by Boost Mobile. I did a commercial for them crazy years ago, man. It was a fun time.
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Lisa gave you the bag. Lisa gave. Lisa gave out a lot of.
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She gave out a lot of.
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Boost Mobile. Shout out to Lisa.
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She gave out a lot of Boost Mobile bags. Hey, yo, we here Joe with Jada show. We gotta go right to it. The Knicks last night. This is our first show. Knicks last night. What did you take from that? What was you thinking? Where was you at? What was the vibe?
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I was in the stool for one, working on a feature of Mini that I gotta do for people.
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Do you play the volume in the studio that like you hear them talk or you just.
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I leave it, I leave it. But it was so crazy.
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I.
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It was like. It was. It was, you know. Yeah, I'm telling the engineer, look, he's trying to mix that. Look, they tied it up.
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It's cool.
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So. Yeah, nah, you know what I mean? They get. They get one in Boston, when everybody doubted us, we was nine and a half point underdogs. And then go in there and, you know, pull one off. Pause was incredible.
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What I took from last night, the main thing that stood out to me, we played together.
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It was a team effort, you know what I mean?
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Finally, finally. Hold up. Finally, Mikel Bridges earned that contract. I was not convinced. This whole season told everybody, number one picks this, this, that. When we eventually won the game, it Dawned upon me. I said, oh, did you see what he.
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Did you see his impact? Did you see his impact yesterday?
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Yes, yes, absolutely. But what I'm trying to tell you is I didn't see it the whole season. I don't know if he tries to play shy. I don't know if he just comes when he wants to light him up.
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Light him up isn't such thing as playoff, Jimmy. He turned into a different Mikhail Bridges in the playoffs. No, but that's what we needed.
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What I'm saying is we pay these.
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Guys to win the championship.
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Not just him. We paid the people who picked these guys. So I wasn't happy with how they recruited him, to be honest with you. And last night when it all was said and done, I said, yo, these guys, because you thinking the whole thing, you thinking the chance is Boston. Let's not get it confused. Data champs, they got a whole lot of Jason Tatum, a whole lot of Jalen Brown. They got a whole lot of poisons. Al Horford is 100 years old and he still beat. Disrespectful. No, I'm just saying. I'm older than him. But I'm just letting you. He's an OG in the game. But what I'm saying to you is every team on the off season is trying to compete against that team. That's the championship team. So when you looking at the team at the start of the game and everybody's saying it's impossible for us to win, eventually we win the first game. I realized when I recruiting, you know, Leon Rose, what he envisioned and it worked to expertise last night, shout out to Jalen Brunson, technically in any other time. And he. So you got to understand, as Nick fans, we've been hurting for 20 years.
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We've been let down for 20.
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No, no. Since 1973, technically. But I'm just saying in our era, 20, 30 years, we've been hurting. And so any win we get or any way we come up, we just over celebrate and be like, oh my God. Right? But Jalen Brunson, under any other circumstance, he would be considered a ball hog on any team. Cause he need the ball in his hand every time.
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He's a shoe. He's a killer. He's a killer. He wants. He. Sometimes he don't see nothing but the team on his back. It's good and it's bad sometimes. Last night, it was last night. He was a killer and he was using, utilizing his teammates.
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I agree with you all the way. My thing is the man's a killer. He's a winner. You know, we. We seen too many players for years that would. They. They were happy with being close but no cigar. You know, they get to the third round, they happy.
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They.
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They this. He's a finisher. He's actually trying to bring a championship to New York City. And if nobody else believe he believe.
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You gotta believe.
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45 missed threes by the Celtics yesterday.
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Yeah, that was crazy. One quarter. I think they would. They shot 20. They missed 19 out of 23 points. That was crazy. But that's the. When they making them. They blow you out the arena. And when they missing them, we come back from 20. I hope they miss a lot more.
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I win for the New York Knicks. You know, we don't know how to act. Nick fans don't know how to. I've been looking because we won. I'm enjoying it. So I'm looking at Instagram like random people. The way Nick fans celebrate. Nick fans is just. We just too much.
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We go overboard.
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Oh, man, they got parties all type of way. He like, they can't come back from 20. There's no way they're going to lose. They just. And then the last play when Mikel grabs the ball off of Jalen Brown, he starts going crazy.
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Fuck that. He felt like he was worth it, man.
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You know, Jaylen Brown is hurt. Technically, he's hurt.
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He banged up his knee ain't right right now.
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He banged up at Porzingis. Thank God. That guy.
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What happened? He caught the flu.
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He sat out the whole. I don't know. I don't. What? He caught the flu. He might have got the stomach. You know, I caught a stomach bug last. Nobody want the stomach bug. No, the vomiting and same time, you don't want parts of that right there, man. I'm telling you. I've been shot and I had the stomach bug a couple of times. You do not under any circumstance be flying from LA to New York with the stomach bug on the plane. That's that Bombs over Baghdad in your stomach.
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How about if you had the stomach bug in the loot, the seats.
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The Hulkamaniacs, you know, when we go to the game. I had a question for you. I was thinking about how do you decide in a time like this? You get courtside tickets. It's two. How do you decide who you decide who you take with you? Does your son ask to come? Does the who. Which one in the cruise gets to sit next to you? What is that like? Because I have like most like, if.
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If any of my kids actually go. They gonna win the. They gonna win the other ticket, hands down, unanimously. You know, my man K will catch it. But I bring. He don't. Is. I got people with me that love basketball more than him. So he don't. He don't mind being in bb. Like, he. He's. He's one row behind the floor. And you good. He's still chilling, so he appreciate even all. But I got some of my friends that they bucket listed to sit on the floor, so I try to switch them up and let.
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I mean, I don't know if Rich, though, because Rich. Rich is the honorary seat holder. When I sit here, that's Richard's seat, technically.
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So he ain't letting nobody else get.
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No, no, they get it. They work them. They work them. Yo, yo, my daughter be like, yo, I'm going to the game tomorrow. I'll be like, yo, Ma, you ever talk to Uncle Rich, like, oh, he know what's up. I'm going to get. I'm saying, that's Uncle Rich seat. Like, you got to figure this one out. And they hitting me for more. You know, they hitting me bad. Like, yo, yo, the next game, Can.
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I catch a game with you?
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Yeah, it's hard to pick who's going to go. You know, it's. It's hard. But when we talk about. When I sit there, the first thing I do is look up to the.
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To the Luther.
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To the Luther seats. And so why we call it the Luther is years ago, I used to have to sit up a deck. And so, I mean, really, yo, there's an upper deck. Yo, there's an upper deck in Madison Square Garden where you have to duck to get and sit in the seat. Like, I'm talking about the. That's where all the Hulkamaniacs are at.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying? The Hulkamaniacs are up there. They'll put you in a pretzel. You don't know what. That's a rowdy crew. How about. Them guys are so happy to be up there. They might have borrowed the money to be up there. That's the truth. They might have borrowed money to be up there.
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Depending on the ticket, it could cost a lot to be up.
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Hell, yeah. So I'm saying back in the days, Luther Van Jones recipes is my favorite singer of all time. I remember one concert, I threw the suit on and my. I look like a bus driver. The sky blue shirt with the suit, and I'm up with deck ducking. My wife got A dress on. And we looking at this Luther Vandross about this little from up there. Our house is not a hole. And so we call that the Luther seats up there, you know, I mean, what an experience to sit courtside at something like this, man. It's. It's an honor. I want to shout out the Knicks for always taking care of me, you.
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Know, Definitely shout out to the whole Nick organization for taking care myself. Joe Crack.
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Denver. Did you see this game?
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Denver.
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Denver. Denver.
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How they did they picked. They already picked the mvp. Because I think after this series, it might. He might get a little. He might move up a couple notches on Shay. Yeah. 42, 22 and 9. It's like an inhuman noise. That's crazy, dog.
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42, 22 and 9.
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That's. That don't even make. What is that?
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That's crazy, though, yo. That is insane. And so you think he's mvp.
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I don't know how somebody that a seven foot, whatever size he is averaging a triple double for the whole season or two is. Is.
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But I'll tell you what the problem is. I'll tell you what the problem is. It's no problem, right?
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What's the problem?
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I tell you what the problem is that people don't understand with the Joker is in America, we learn. You know how people sing? They go door red me fast. So, you know, now I'm telling you, when they play sports, they teach them the same dribble, how, who to pass it to who this and this and that. The joke could come from like Serbia or some shit from over there, right? He learned the opposite way, so he.
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Told him the reverse way.
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Yeah, he does stuff you're not supposed to do. You see the ball flying right past you be like, no way he made that. That's like 101. In Gaucho's gym, they teach you not to pass that ball like that. Joker does exactly that. So all the American players, they don't know what he's gonna do. They. They. They up because they know how you coming any other way. Joker could do anything, and he does it at his own, and, you know, move slow.
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He's unstoppable.
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I call him a Slinky. He's like a Slinky. He's like this, that. You know how to Slinky Be going down the stairs. He's like a Slinky. But yo, he gets the job done. The other day, the last series, not even this one last series, he came in there and you know the Joker, you know, you're a big boy, so he coming in sloppy. Last series, he had his cheekbones showing. You know, that's how I know the boxes. Let me tell you something. That's how I know the boxes is gonna win. Because when a boxer come in the ring and his cheekbones show, that mean that boy been training for real. The Joker, last series, he.
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He's choppy.
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Oh, no, he's not playing.
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Joker was doing boxing training.
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I'm just saying. He just was not for play. He came up in there and he meant business. He was not gonna lose. I don't care who you threw at him. Kawhi, Harden, whoever, he was not going to lose. I seen it in the cheekbones. The Joker's a different kind of animal right now in the cheekbones. You know what I'm talking about? Hey, yo. Shout out to the Saudi ar His Highness, His Excellency, the guy with the bag and the man. He did two countries, two parts of the world one day. So they had boxing for the first time in Times Square. I had to buy it. I think it was 89 or something like that. I had to buy it. A little disappointed. Not a little. A lot of disappointed in the actual boxers, you know what I mean? And that's why some people, even though I'm always going to be a boxing fan, some people went more towards the MMA and the ufc. Because you guaranteed action in boxing, you get a guy to run. You know, Devin Haney was running that whole fight. I didn't understand that. According to me, he's nice. He wasn't letting them things go. Ryan Garcia, he got washed. It's like, you know, I was a fan. Like, you know, you're not a fan no more. N. Not. Not like that. I can't do it. Know what I'm saying? Like, I was never. God bless him, he's powerful, found the face of boxing, but I was never a Canelo fan. After he fought Mayweather and couldn't even get a jab off. I can't see you. That's what you do. Like, that's. This is you. You dedicated your life to this. You can't hit the man with a jab. I can't really big you up like that. So your man Ryan had a bad night, though.
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Crap, yeah.
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Yeah. You could have a bad night. All right, let's give him another chance.
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But you about to have one against Bud, you know what I mean? I like Bud, though.
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But no, no Bud against Canelo. That's gonna be. That's probably the best fight in, what, 10 years or something?
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They weight class. Some bud had to move up a lot. Right. And wait.
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Yeah. But Bud is in the. He's probably the best boxing. Yeah. They're gonna have a serious.
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I can't wait. I can't wait to see. I might. I might have to attend that fight.
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Was Tyson. Paul, right? Mike Tyson.
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I didn't get to see. You didn't see the Tyson. And I'm happy I didn't get to see that.
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Shout out to the Serrano sisters. Amanda Serrano, she fighting the third time. The girl from Ireland. What's the girl's name from Ireland? The boxer. Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano, they fighting in the Garden. That's the third time they fight. They the illest female boxers. In the end, like, they really try to kill each other in the ring, you know, they tougher than most guys, you know. So stay tuned for that Charlemagne. You don't you. Have you seen this movie? You do you watch musical movies? Like.
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I watch all kind of movies. I'm not. I watch whatever. I'm not one of only watch certain kind of. Yeah, I watch all of them. I watch all of them.
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You watch all of them? Me too. Nina, Sam. Oh, man. Bob Dylan. Oh, yo, that movie is the one. You want to see that movie? He. He's that. They call him the greatest songwriter in history. He got the title right. Not our style.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Movie.
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I just didn't see the Unknown and.
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They said the man ain't go to.
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The Met Gala because he wanted to watch.
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He wanted to watch the Nick game.
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He's my type of guy. I love him even. I vote for his next movie even without seeing it just for that.
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No, he's a real Knick fan. I see him at the games, but he's so, so talented. Met Gala, do you see looked anything to do with that?
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I've been seeing a couple. I've been seeing. I see my man Three stacks with the piano on his back. That was crazy. I wanted. I want to know what.
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I don't know. It's like.
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Is anything any.
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Was this.
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Was the transmission in that piano or was it like. It like a. Like an empty box? It couldn't have been that heavy because he went up the stairs.
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He's walking around, came in with like a thousand feathers.
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My.
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My thing is like, yo, listen, one place, and there's no disrespect because if they invite me, I'm going. But one place I ain't been pressed to go to is the Met Gala. It just looked like a lot of Work.
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Yeah.
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Like, all them outfits look like they. Like, the girls are sucking in. They. They eating the olive for like a month.
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They.
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This. No. This is out of control. No. You know, where you at? You know how strong you got to be to have a piano on your back? Me get the out. He had a whole orchestra on his back, man. You kidding me?
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Amando. Snowfall came in with the. With a motorcycle suit, and they ripped it off. And he had the helmet.
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Nah, it's crazy.
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Then he had a suit under the suit.
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It's a bit. I'm not. You know, I'd rather see the Grammys.
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I go to the Met gala, invited me and. And did.
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How do you get it?
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I just don't want to wear more than one outfit.
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I've never been invited to.
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You heard. I. I'm cool with the Met Gala. I don't want to be layered. I don't want to have, like, a suit with another suit with a. With a. With a quilt. With this.
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Give me one nice suit, yo.
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You mean with some accessories?
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Listen, one of my idols, Baby Face, he looked like Professor Clump. I don't know where they. What is the inspiration, Baby Face? Look, he wore this like.
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I can't take it.
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Dick. Big ass. He looked like Clump, bro. He looked like Clump. Like Professor Clump and his. And I'm just.
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He wore a suit that had big, crazy fat.
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Like, he looked like he was a fat boy. He's not. But, I mean, I guess the suit was made like, that suit was made like.
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No fashion.
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Big punk, Fat Joe. Grammys, like, big what?
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Yeah. No, it wasn't like that.
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I'm trying to tell you what's going on.
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Yeah.
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Nah, you know, yo, this out of control. Yeah, they can have that right there. I don't know. You know, I don't. I don't expect Jada to come up in there like Zorro or some like that. Right? Like, that's the part that I don't like.
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I just like the regular. If you invite me, just make me regular. Don't make me a zarro hat or nothing that I don't. Don't make me. Don't get me out of my element.
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Rihanna pregnant.
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That's a blessing. Child number three for Rocky and riri. I think it's beautiful.
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You know, Let me tell you something, man. Asap. Rocky, I know him a long time. You know, he really for the Bronx.
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I know that.
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No, no, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I ain't gotta. I ain't Gotta, like, I don't need to co sign on this. The kid from the Bronx, I know him from the Bronx. Okay, From. And then he was Harlem. It's cool. But you know, them babies really from their heritage is back in the Bronx. I'm trying to tell you, man, you could trace him back to the Bronx. I got money on it for anybody. And I'm not starting controversy. I'm just saying.
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Telling me, is it anywhere on. Did he ever say this?
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Never, ever, ever.
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He never said, are you standing on business ASAP in the Bronx?
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He know that, though. Like I know that he know that.
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All right, we gonna get to the bottom of this. You a historical person, so let me tell you.
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You from the Bronx, they used to be this little. Maybe you snuck in from Yonkers. I don't know. There used to be this little place called Miss Elise where if you curse, you got to give a dollar. So all the hustlers. I seen Dame Dash there and a bunch of people there like, like all the hustlers used to go in there. She cooked. Best cook in the world. She give you that. What's the bread? The. The. The wheat bread.
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The.
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The yellow and brown one.
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Cornbread.
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Nah, not comfortable. No, it's a brand. A brown and yellow bread, the wheat bread. And you just put the butter on that joint while you eat the steak and like that. But you know, his. His sister used to go there. I used to see it there all the time. Asap. Rocky's sister, huh? Nature zone. Nature zone. That's that nature zone right there. Trust me, I know. But salute. Asap. Rocky, man, he doing major, major things out there.
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And he's.
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Jador fell to the fifth round. How you feel about that? What you think was involved. What you think made that happen? Do you think that was always going to happen? Do you think it's some knocks because he come from a wealthy, smart hall of Fame dad and he's doing this with watches and big Hercs and Rolls Royces and think that made the team owners a little mad and shy away? What do you think it was?
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First of all, let me just say that Shador, all the team players, all the teams played themselves, let's be clear, that skipped them. Every one of them teams played themselves. The Giants, Dallas, or. The first thing I told him was that, yo, you think Dallas is gonna. They passing them five times. Dallas, they got my man. Dallas never winning with him. They gave that with my man. He's there for good looks. Dak Prescott is simply a good looking guy. He gets the money, he gets the endorsements. He's not winning. And, and Rich, my brother's a Dallas fan and I gotta join with him. How do you pass on Shador five times? Like you got to be on crack.
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Not five times. Five rounds.
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Five rounds is they pick four other guys in front of him. And every single team, even Cleveland, who picked them.
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There's a lot of ramp. Is it? He got picked 100 and something or something.
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Once again, I'm going to tell you, every single team in the NFL played themselves. You see how with LeBron, Bronnie, they. They made sure nobody would pick him. And he was like, yo, don't pick him. He gotta come play with his father. And everybody fell back. That was the blueprint of this shit. They just all got together, all the owners. We gonna teach him a lesson.
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I think it was different. Crack his pot. Bron is inside the organization. He could talk to Genie, he could talk to rapper Link, he could do that.
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Oh, but other teams, why? Why the Knicks ain't pick him? Why the Raptors ain't pick them? Why nobody? Cause they told the whole league, you can't tell nobody. I'm telling you, nobody. Like that's what they did.
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Like that.
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That's what they did. Paul and, and, and them guys who fucking managed Rich, Paul. And I was like, you better not pick Bronnie. He got to play with his father. But let's just say this is the reverse of that. In the NFL, they definitely told all the owners, we teaching this kid a lesson. We not picking them. And with the problem with that, the problem I got with that, right, is I don't know Dion. Like, you guys might know him. All I know him for is saying God is great. God is good. He's a family man. He takes care of his kids. He coaches kids, he mentors. I don't know how that would upset every owner of the. The National Football League to not pick his son. Like, it's not. Like, to me, I don't look as Deion as problematic.
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B
It's not that they already stars Deion. All his kids, they already famous. It's probably some. I. I don't know why he should have been when he should have been the top 10. Top five, if you ask me.
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A
Listen, Cleveland, I mean, the numbers don't lie. They immediately sold more jerseys than every other rookie in the. In the. In. In the whole league. He sold more jerseys.
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B
He's going to sell out the stands and jerseys and all that. But the owners and the GMs want to see. They pay for wins.
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A
He's gonna win. So who they pick before him gonna make them win more than him. They got five quarterbacks right now. Yeah, they got too many. So they. They probably loaded up so they could start trading everybody.
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B
Sean Watson, Flaco, they want to get. But he's still there as of now.
- [27:06]
A
He's there. Flaco is, like, really old school, right?
- [27:08]
B
Flaco's efficient for one year, wherever you go.
- [27:12]
A
He got one good year.
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B
Yeah, like, he give you one good. They usually bring him in half this season.
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A
Or like, yo, how about the biggest robbery in football history? Aaron Rodgers, right? And that's my man, too. I love Aaron Rogers. That twisted his ankle on the first play. How much money he caught for the Achilles crack? How many. How many on the first playb? Let me ask you something. How many millions was that for two years right there? How. How crazy. You know what? We gotta rap. You know how many times we gotta go to Alberta, Canada, and like that to get the bag up? Like your. Twisted his ankle and he. He. How much he caught?
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B
Jeez, whoa.
- [27:56]
A
14 and 25, and he's getting 35 next year. Why we don't have that for rappers? Why we don't have, like, a way out, Y' all. Give Jada a check. Give Joe a check. What is it? I mean, where do. What. What. I guess this. This podcast is the new rapper, right? I. I'm at a Jewish funeral yesterday. One of my best friends. Jewish. His grandmother died. She's 93, and I'm talking to a Jewish lady right next to her in the funeral thing, and she's like, hey, Joe, man, you got to tune into my podcast. And she's like, 80 years old. I'm looking at I said, yo, you know what? I could learn a lot from you. I might just t to your podcast, but this is just cr, everybody. What's gonna make the difference with the Joe and Jada podcast?
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B
Authenticity. You know what I mean? Is it got to be a organic conversation Crack. We can't. We can't ride the. The wave of what's going on out here. You know what I mean? This ain't that, and that ain't this.
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A
That ain't this.
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B
It's cracking. Kiss.
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A
Oh, see, my thing is when you talk about Dan, that's. That' right there. You know, when you say. When you talk about hip hop podcast. See, I can't salute you if you didn't go and did a show and the promoter beat you for your second half of your money, or you. You went to a show to promote it on.
- [29:28]
B
If you haven't been through the farm league.
- [29:30]
A
Yo, listen.
- [29:31]
B
Of what it listen, you can't be.
- [29:33]
A
Sitting up here dissecting the albums. And that's the problem we have with rap since the beginning, since the source mics and all this. It's like, yo, you ain't even play the game. You see, the reason why we love TNT so much with Chuck and Shaq, these are legends. They played the game. They know the ins and outs when it comes to Jaden Joe. Like, we've been over, We've been won. We done had moments, we done had anthems. We know the game. We done got beat by the promoters. You ain't really been real unless they sick pit bulls on you when you try to get your second half of money or you got to beat up a promoter and take the money in quarters, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you get kidnapped in Africa. We need our money, right? We need our money. So I need my money.
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B
I need it now.
- [30:25]
A
You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna get my. So. So when I see these certain guys commenting, never had a hit record, never had a album, never. I'll be like, to me, they're not qualified.
- [30:39]
B
You know, when they put these mics in front of people, oh, they lose the. Some people just get caught in a moment and say dumb, you know, and. And it happens to the best of us. But. But I'm saying due time, it'll all come to the light.
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A
Yeah. They just said the best duo ever in hip hop is Ashanti and Ja Rule. Can I start with my comments first on this, right? Every show I do with Ashanti and Ja Rule, it's the only show I sit there and watch them perform after me. I just love their music, what they brought to the game, dynamic together. It's definitely one of my favorite duos. And so, you know, I salute Ja and Ashanta. I don't disagree. And it was like you had to have like it had to be a group or three or more songs.
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B
I think for them to win duel of history and never had an album together. Just did mad classic new made hits. I think that's awesome. But I think, you know, they ain't throw me and Mary on there. I know we. What's the. Which you had to have three or more songs.
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A
Now you gotta have three or more songs. You got a bunch of songs with Barry.
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B
Yeah, I got at least three or more though.
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A
But you know that nominating. Let me tell you something. But your coldest one was with Usher.
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B
No doubt.
- [32:08]
A
That damn boy.
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B
Throwback. Shout out to my boy.
- [32:12]
A
Oh, man, Usher. Usher was what, the biggest guy on earth at the time.
- [32:16]
B
Sure.
- [32:16]
A
He sent you the song. Yo, Jada, I need you on this. I'm gonna watch it back. Yeah, when that hit and you heard the. And them drums hit, y' all, Jada, you was like, oh, no, you smoke some real loud. Like you was in you. You might as well be comatose on that.
- [32:39]
B
You was like, kind of wish I had that. I'm like, damn, just blazer. They gave me this beat, man.
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A
But he gave it to you with Usher. That's a. That's a diamond. That's diamond.
- [32:51]
B
It was Usher's song that I just lended a little bit of services to. But now I felt it was a beautiful thing because you. Like you said, Usher was running the world, controlling the world in his hands. So when they sit down, I'm like, all right, this is gonna help. It's gonna help out a lot. One year since the Kendrick and Drake discrepancy, what they like to call it, beef in the media world. Since we.
- [33:19]
A
We in media, we immediate now.
- [33:21]
B
But, you know, thank God nobody really. Nothing happened to anybody physically. But how you feel about personally? I thought it was about four or five months ago. I can't believe it's already been a year.
- [33:33]
A
This shit is out of control, man. How's it year? But what I can tell you is, boy, that Kendrick Lamar get some spins in LA radio.
- [33:42]
B
Everybody from LA gets spins in la.
- [33:45]
A
You never seen. When's the last time you went and put on the radio in la? I was there last week.
- [33:49]
B
I was there like last year, bro.
- [33:51]
A
I never seen that like this. Like Every single song they like, turn the TV off the other one. That. This, that this is that what. It's a fact. Kendrick lamar gets played 9 out of every 10 songs in LA right now. Not even Snoop Dogg, not even Tupac Shakur, not nobody from LA has dominated the paint like this guy this last year. What they doing in la? You know, if you from la, you think there's only one guy on earth, Kendrick Lamar. I'm just keeping it a park with you. You turn on that radio in la, if you're from la, you work at Target, okay? Amazon. You delivering some shit. You working at the bakery or whatever. East LA halls. You thinking there's one man breathing in hip hop. It's called Kendrick Lamar. I'm. I'm keeping it a buck with you.
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B
No, he had a hell of a year, hell of a career. But the last year. So you.
- [34:57]
A
What do you think about beef and hip hop? Like, I. I didn't answer this a million times.
- [35:03]
B
It's getting out of hand. When it gets. For me, I thought it was always good if you take it all the way back from wow style and ll&kumo d and then all the way up to us in 50. Whatever you want is always good as long as it stays on wax. I mean, now when it first started, somebody say something about you, you got to go to the studio. You got to immediately work on getting one back out there. Boom. Now is you knock the stick off your shoulders like a fight at the school at 3 o' clock. Now we got. As the technology evolved, it turned into movie skits, animations, retrieving fake information and going to the. To the embassy and getting it got. It got a little wacky for me. Like, I like it to be beats and rhymes and keep it like that. Once you started getting. Once it got out of my pay grade, I kind of. I'm not really. I mean, it takes. Is a little bit of disinterest to me because it's turning. It's turning political now. Supposed to be. No, no, it is beats and rhymes.
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A
Mics, DJs, and it's even lawsuits behind Rap Diss Records.
- [36:24]
B
Now.
- [36:24]
A
I never saw that.
- [36:25]
B
That's over my head. I don't really understand when it gets, you know. Yeah, yeah, I just want to see. Let's just say I just want to see rhymes and songs and hip hop. Once he gets. Yeah, yeah, once he goes to the White House, you know, that Supreme Court and things like that.
- [36:40]
A
And I mean to the Congress Library.
- [36:43]
B
And all that, you know, I mean.
- [36:45]
A
Who Got nominated for the hall of Fame this year, I think. Outkast. Salt and Pepper, you know, Salt and Pepper different, right? I've done a couple of shows with them and It'd be like 99.9 women fans. Like they have a cult women fans audience. There's nothing you could do about it. I performed with them a couple of times. And the way women, the way women connect with Salt and Pepper is very. That story's never been told, right? Like, you know what I mean? Like, wherever they perform, the whole venue is women, you know, they really fuck with Salt and pepper like that.
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B
So.
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A
Salute. Salt and Pepper come from a time where, you know, the stars were very few, but they were iconic. You know, Fat Boys, Run dmc, ll, Slick Rig, you know, the Rock Kim's. It was when it was only had like 10 and they was holding it down for the ladies. And of course outkast definitely, you know, they.
- [37:51]
B
They inducted.
- [37:52]
A
They gonna work it too.
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B
I mean, shout out to Big Boy 3 stacks. What they've done for hip hop is impeccable.
- [38:02]
A
Yeah, they started that whole Atlanta movement with the Goody Mob and they had everybody follow ever since.
- [38:09]
B
Organized. Organized confusion, right? Organized noise.
- [38:13]
A
Organized noise.
- [38:14]
B
Rico Wade recipes, you know. So they shout out to organized confusion too, though. Much and his other man.
- [38:21]
A
Yeah, yeah, Organized confusion. That was it. That then you got. What's the. The in the middle of the bar. Crucial conflict right from out there in the Midwest, boy. Then what? You know, I mean, you know, hip hop is so great, man, because it's such a variety of hip hop. If you out there really trying to like this. I never knew every. Everywhere I look on Instagram, Tick tock is. It's my anxiety. It's like. I thought it was like a white girl song. And my daughter was like, yo, that's Dolce. That's the girl I've been putting you on to, dad. And I'm like, what?
- [38:57]
B
She's having a hell of a she.
- [38:58]
A
What?
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B
What? Crazy.
- [39:02]
A
It's my anxiety that is everywhere under the sun. Be like, I'm talking about. Yeah, yo, I did not know it was this girl's record. Don't you. Oh, she's dope.
- [39:15]
B
She's super dope.
- [39:16]
A
No, no, she out of here with this anxiety. Like, you know, now I'm telling you. I'm telling you. That is dog commercials. Whatever. This is touching. Everybody. She got one. She got a culture moving.
- [39:32]
B
Greatest album ever to come out of hip hop is Mobb Deep. Infamous.
- [39:37]
A
He said New York, New York, New York.
- [39:39]
B
I. I Definitely think that's one of them.
- [39:41]
A
I ain't definitely one.
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B
Definitely wouldn't argue. I wouldn't argue with that. You know what I mean? Infamous album. Did a lot for me. Did a lot for my brothers. Yeah, it did a lot for hip hop. Shit was incredible.
- [39:56]
A
Phenom, you know? You know, when. When Prodigy died, I was at his funeral, and it was so. It was. First of all, you walk in the funeral, and they playing Boom Boom. They had a band playing it.
- [40:12]
B
Boom Boom.
- [40:14]
A
There's a war going on outside. No Ministry. They was playing the beat. When you walk in the funeral, a band could have been the Roots. I don't know. Somebody, they playing that. So I'm in the back, I'm tearing up. And it just. It just hit me at that moment that say, if hip hop was a pyramid, we lost like a big stone. Like. Like, I was in there and I realized, like, yo, we really took a l, you know, Prodigy is dead. And in the middle of the whole. You know how when your friends come up there and talk about you, one of their man's got up there was like. And KRS 1, the bridge ain't over. I'm like, yo, 30 years later, they still shooting at us. I'm like, yo, I'm with you. I'm at the funeral with you, baby. What you talking about? I don't give a. This, this, that yo face. And, you know. But me, my favorite album of all time, whether New York or anybody, is Illmatic. Nasty Nas. Even when I'm on that plane, in that plane, you know my biggest fear, the plane. When that start doing all this, he'd be like, you want to take a license for this? Your ass should be out saying, going to get something yo done past the anybody. And they got, you know, all that. Yo, son, yo said, nah, nah, nah, nah. You know, this is illmatic. You know, even when you got the record dealer, you don't got the. See, that's what's hip hop. Hip hop's missing that a lot, too. Those legendary skits, the Wu Tang skit. Yo, son, I'm hit. Yo, son, I'm hit.
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B
Wu Tang Drag me in the building. Take to 17. To 17. Go ahead. They definitely miss his skits. Anytime you talk about legendary or classic album or any of that, it could go for days like a religious argument. So, yeah, it is. Is. I only think it was a problem if it's things on the list that nobody agrees up.
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A
I mean, so that's the story of the Grammys.
- [42:19]
B
When 9th Wonder sat down no, that's.
- [42:21]
A
The story of infamous.
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B
I'm not. Look.
- [42:26]
A
I watch him come into the grammys. He sold 30 million record step. You remember that first 50 cent out he was nominated. That might have lost the tic tac toe. He got up and looked around and walked right back out. That Grammy, like, the Grammy, they've been better these years, right? But they had it all the way up. Like, they. They was giving, you know, Mork and Mindy the grandy Grammy over Biggie. And like this, you sitting there like, yo, this is nuts. I watched 50 Cent walk in, sold 30 million records, man. G Unit, bro. We could get this popping. He walked up in there, his seat wasn't even warm. He sat there for like two seconds. And the winner is Herbal and Peaches over here, dude. And the man got up and walked out, and that's when I knew we all in the Grammys. When I saw that, I said, oh, no, everybody in the Grammys. Like, yeah. And I don't know what expertise they use. If it has to be elevated music or some. I don't know what it is. I know I lost two of my Grammys. I got nominated, I want to say, six times. One, I lost to the Black Eyed Peas for Lean Back. And they didn't even have Fergie with them. They ain't even had a white girl yet. So they was really not even popping at the time, right?
- [43:57]
B
They were just the black eyes.
- [43:59]
A
Yeah, you're the black eyes. Yeah, they have Fergie. If you ain't got Fergie, you know, you ain't supposed to be winning Lean Back, you know what I'm saying? You just ain't, you know, you. At least Fergie, you know, we understand. We got Fergie. But then the second one I lost was Chance the Rapper. I still don't. Yo, let me tell you something. I'm bitter about that. I'm better. Chance rapper. Yeah, I know he be all the way up. Remy comes out of jail for eight years. I come out of jail. No, no, he won with that. You don't. The only song. You don't want no problems. Got no Problems with Me. That's just. That's a decent song. But you know it. You know, it didn't mean as much as, you know, the hood, you know, we went to jail, both of us. We came back, we had an all time low. We put out a record. I'm all the way up, it goes number one, and Chance the Rapper wins. Come on, man. They wasn't tapped into the Culture, right? Automatically, you're supposed to give it to the Robin Hoods.
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B
I got nominated once. I don't know who I lost.
- [45:03]
A
Let me tell you something. The man. This man, Big Pun, first Latino to sell 2 million records solo. We go to the Grammys. We rent the biggest mansion. This man get the girls to come from. From San Francisco. They did the finger waves on Pun. Pun had the finger waves like. Like Mac Dre and. And all those guys out there in. In San Francisco, we. That's the infamous pitches. We got the big suits with each other.
- [45:36]
B
Like, I remember that, man.
- [45:37]
A
We walked up in there. Your man Ricky Martin was up there. He was living lovey. That looks like, oh, I waited my whole life to go to the Grammys. I'm looking this. Everybody's over there. You got every superstar you ever name in your life. So we just sit down in one second, when we get there, the guy from Loud Records come up and be like, yo, they did the hip hop before this. Y' all lost. Pun said, man, these. Let's get the out of here. The Grammys. I see your Pun. He's the first time we've been invited to some flies. He was like, them, you coming with me or not? I was like, oh, my God. We walked up out of that. He was tight. He was tight. So they really matter. You know, people definitely want to get celebrated.
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B
I think it's somebody in. Somebody in the academy that figured out we happy with just getting nominated.
- [46:30]
A
Nah.
- [46:31]
B
That Donald Trump says Stephen A. Smith should be. Should run for president. Donald Trump always says crazy shit. I don't think Stephen A. Should be the president. Maybe the president of sports at espn, but not the President of the world.
- [46:49]
A
But let me explain something. You. Donald Trump, he had a TV show, man. He was.
- [46:53]
B
He had a lot of TV shows, a lot of buildings, golf courses, all of that. What the hell?
- [46:59]
A
President.
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B
Correct.
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A
I mean, I would think Stephen A.
- [47:03]
B
Wouldn't be president.
- [47:04]
A
He don't. He definitely said he don't want to be president. But what you got to understand, that all these people, they regular people, man. They just become politicians. And then through the years, they go on their ranks up until being the president. Why can't Stephen A. Smith.
- [47:20]
B
That's what Donald Trump put in the air, that anybody could be president. That ain't. That. That ain't right. Anybody can't just be president.
- [47:29]
A
No. You gotta have people behind you. But they all regular people. What I'm trying to tell you. Yeah. So why. Why somebody come from New York made somebody getting 100 million by Stephen A. Smith ain't broke.
- [47:46]
B
Do it run in the world. I don't care if he got a hundred trillion he don't know about having. Going over there, talking to the big guys over there and all that.
- [47:57]
A
What I'm saying to you is when Donald Trump. Donald Trump was in WrestleMania B is what I'm trying to tell you.
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B
Is Donald Trump.
- [48:07]
A
Anybody.
- [48:09]
B
Donald Trump's like Deion Sanders. There'd never be another one.
- [48:14]
A
Yeah, I agree.
- [48:15]
B
Never. Nobody's never gonna do what he did ever again. The presidency is not something to take lightly. Last few years, we just been saying anybody should run for president. We got to get back to presidents running for president.
- [48:30]
A
President's running for president. It's not you. You ain't bullshitting.
- [48:34]
B
Yeah. As soon as you get trended a little, I cracked your run for president.
- [48:38]
A
No, no, he should. Next, you know, they're gonna be like cracking Lizzo. President, vice president can sell out a ticket, you know what I'm saying? Then, you know, anybody go for I don't want to be president.
- [48:54]
B
Politicians, what I'm saying, None of that polit.
- [48:58]
A
Alone. We got to clear this.
- [49:01]
B
And then it ended with this.
- [49:03]
A
Okay, stick is nuts. Y. Listen, train is coming now. Train is coming, baby. The train is coming now.
- [49:17]
B
Who they gonna kill with Train is coming, Jerry. And what the hell was the.
- [49:24]
A
They kept playing the jo. I ain't get to see sinners yet. My daughter went to see it three times.
- [49:27]
B
There one song on there that they. They skinning somebody alive, man. That was the anthem.
- [49:32]
A
This is from Money Train. Remember? Money Train with.
- [49:36]
B
With Woody and. And yes.
- [49:39]
A
The train is coming, baby. The train is coming now. That's how I felt when I flew in. I just said, damn. This is the. We're about to take the nation by storm. The Joe and Jada show about to be official out here. Like, you know, this. This Russell some ruffles, some feathers immediately, you know, the minute you and I. I understand. The minute they announced Joe and Jada got a podcast, it immediately rang some bells. And it was like, oh, they coming with that shit, because we are.
- [50:11]
B
Drain is coming.
- [50:12]
A
Is coming now. The train is coming, baby. All right, tune in next time for the Joe and Jada show, man. Brought to you by Boost Mobile, baby.
- [50:22]
B
Happy Mother's Day. Pre Mother's Day to all the mothers out there, man.
- [50:28]
A
My mom's passed away. Rest in peace this week. And it's something that you always fear. You always think it might happen, but then it just really happens. And so you just gotta deal with life. Man up and shout out to my mom for being such a beautiful influence in me and, you know, making me the man who I am. So, Ruby. Ms. Cartagena.
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B
Peace, love.