The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada – Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Zohran’s Shoutout, Snoop Dogg-50 Cent Debate, Grammys Picks, and the Smelliest Rappers

Date: January 9, 2026

Overview

This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd—guest-hosted by Fat Joe and Jadakiss—delivers an unfiltered, humorous, and insightful conversation deeply rooted in hip-hop culture and sports. The duo bounce between candid stories from their lives, sharp commentary on music and sports, and hilarious debates, all while maintaining their signature chemistry. Major topics include their New Year reflections, Grammy predictions, industry drama, “smelliest” rappers, sports banter (especially NBA and NFL), and the ongoing Snoop Dogg vs. 50 Cent debate over "most famous rapper" status.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Vibes, New Year Stories, and Staying Home

• New Year Resolutions & Health Updates

  • Both hosts share their health journeys: Fat Joe updates on losing weight and staying in on New Year's Eve for the first time ever (07:30).
    • "This is the first year of my life I ever stood home and the wife was dancing with Dick Clark and all them niggas on tv. And I was just in my room watching the Game of Thrones." — Fat Joe [07:36]
  • Jada almost set his house on fire with a fireplace mishap, leading to chaotic family attempts to clear smoke (08:18).

• Adjusting to the New York Cold

  • Joe moved from Miami back to NY, struggles with the cold, and jokes about needing a “mink” to survive New Year’s Eve (05:07, 26:32).

2. Hip Hop Industry, “Dirty Section,” and Coming Up

• The “Dirty Section” of Hip Hop Media [14:40]
  • Joe details the toxic dynamic of certain underground podcasts/bloggers (“the dirty section”) dragging anyone who tries to level up out of their ranks.
    • "When you see crabs in the barrel, the dude trying to get out of the barrel, they keep pulling them. The dirty section...they don't want this guy to come up. This their man. This is the logo." — Fat Joe [15:01]
  • Jadakiss and Joe discuss the inevitability of engaging with “the third rail” (online hate) as part of remaining authentic (17:52).

3. Knicks, NBA Banter, and Trades

• Knicks Woes & Player Insight [18:27]
  • Jadakiss expresses concern for the Knicks’ losing streak, missing Josh Hart’s “glue guy” presence, and Carl Anthony Towns’ inconsistent form.
    • "Josh Hart...he does a lot of things that doesn't show up on the stat sheet, but when he ain't there, it hurts us. Significantly." — Jadakiss [18:24]
• General NBA & Wemby Comments [20:22]
  • Brief takes on Wemby’s potential and current NBA trends.

4. Wrestling Tales & Movement as Medicine

• Iron Sheik Story [21:38]

  • Fat Joe recounts meeting the Iron Sheik, a surreal tale involving Hennessy, weed, and the Sheik’s infamous "perhaps a little something for the nose" request.
    • "Iron Sheik, you gotta chill. But yeah, they wanted to give it to him. They wanted to go get it for him. I'm like, yo, yo, yo, yo. We can't feed the Iron Sheik like that." — Fat Joe [22:17]

• Life Lessons: Gym Ignored & Maintaining Health [22:53]

  • Both admit their home gyms are glorified coat closets, with Jada championing "movement is medicine."

5. Fashion, Minks, and Black vs. White Cold Weather Habits

• Humorous comparison of cultural approaches to winter: borrowing versus buying minks, and how “white people never get cold” (27:03–28:39).
  • "You see these white people, they be running by the side of the water below zero. We looking for a fur. They like tippity doo doo, dippity day." — Fat Joe [28:10]

6. Rap Grammys Picks & Cheat Codes

[31:16–36:36]

• Grammys Predictions
  • Clips, Tyler the Creator, Kendrick Lamar, and Doechii named as the main Grammy contenders, with John Legend as the “cheat code” guest-feature for locks.
    • "The cheat code to the Grammys is always John Legend on a song. John Legend is the cheat code for the Grammys." — Fat Joe [31:55]
    • "John Legend is the Samuel Jackson of music. How they call Samuel for everything? Insurance, popcorn...They called John Legend for anything." — Jadakiss [32:15]
• Notable Nominees & Snubs
  • Cardi B, Dolce, and veteran Mobb Deep also discussed, with the hosts expressing frustration over “a lot of trash albums this year” and classic groups being overlooked.
• Memorable Fashion Tangents
  • The pair joke about their suit game on New Year's and what’s "sky blue baby blue with that trapper" attire.

7. The Smelliest Rappers and Hygiene in Hip Hop

[37:02–44:36]

• Women & Rappers Who “Stink”

  • Hilarious, candid back-and-forth on rumors of alleged “smelliest” rappers and misconceptions about vegan deodorant.
    • "There’s a lot of rumors in hip hop. One of the rumors is one of our legendary legends...smells like shit." — Jadakiss [38:09]
    • "They don’t want to use the real deodorant...they got that other shit." — Fat Joe [39:46]
  • Fat Joe recounts ladies who try “fake, vegan deodorant” instead of using products that actually work.
  • Both hosts riff about dudes who smell, tackling whether people even know if they stink.
    • "If you ain’t got a cancer stick [in your deodorant], I don’t want it." — Fat Joe [41:13]
    • Joe recalls a friend from the projects who always stank, and the raw honesty of childhood.

• Wild NYC Story: Naked Giant

  • Joe describes a notorious “mentally ill, seven-foot-tall dude” on Fordham Road, getting involved in a scuffle, with full neighborhood participation (!) [44:36].

8. OG Tales and Growing Up Hard

• Joe’s Machete Incident as a Kid [50:12]
  • Fat Joe shares a coming-of-age story: as a kid he defended a young girl from an attacker using a machete, later publicly thanked by her at his brother’s funeral, decades later.
    • "You saved my life. You saved my life." — Dee Dee to Fat Joe, retelling the moment at a funeral [53:48]

9. Rat Culture & Snitching

[54:44–56:31]

• Both criticize the normalization of snitching in internet streamer culture and youth—lamenting shifting street codes.
  • "The people did. Let the streamers become bigger than the rappers… they don't know no street, no moral code. Somebody rat, they be like, yo, he better tell on somebody..." — Fat Joe [55:03]

10. The Snoop Dogg vs. 50 Cent Debate

[56:25–58:40]

• They debate who is “the most famous rapper ever”—historically Snoop Dogg, but Fat Joe suggests 50 Cent might now be equally or more iconic globally.
  • “I've always said Snoop Doggy Dogg is the most famous rapper. I think 50 Cent [is] knocking on his door." — Fat Joe [57:17]

11. Super Bowl & Playoff Picks

[62:52–66:15]

• Run down NFL playoff picks and odds, banter about teams and MVP chances.
  • Jada likes the Patriots or the Rams, but admits "football's any given Sunday." [66:05]
• Quick laughs about Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift, and more.

12. Final Flurry: Random Shoutouts & Humor

• Steady stream of jokes about “perhaps a little something for the nose,” player and rapper names, and Joe’s stockpile of “European Bengay” for knee pain (62:19).
• Ends with fun, but tired, jokes—with Jada groaning for a wheelchair.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Homebody New Year’s:
  “This is the first year of my life I ever stood home and the wife was dancing with Dick Clark and all them niggas on tv. And I was just in my room watching the Game of Thrones.” — Fat Joe [07:36]

• On Industry Hate:
  “When you see crabs in the barrel, the dude trying to get out of the barrel, they keep pulling them. The dirty section...” — Fat Joe [15:01]

• Grammys ‘Cheat Code’:
  “The cheat code to the Grammys is always John Legend on a song.” — Fat Joe [31:55]

• The Infamous Smelliest Rappers Segment:
  "There’s a lot of rumors in hip hop. One of the rumors is one of our legendary legends...smells like shit." — Jadakiss [38:09]

  “If your deodorant ain’t got a little cancer in it...I don’t want it!” — Fat Joe [41:13]

• On Childhood Honesty:
  “My brother come in: 'Yo, you smell like ass...go wash your ass.'” — Fat Joe [44:36]

• Who’s The Most Famous Rapper?
  “I've always said Snoop Doggy Dogg is the most famous rapper. I think 50 Cent knocking on his door.” — Fat Joe [57:17]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [07:30] – Joe’s New Year at home, family stories
• [14:40] – "Dirty Section" and hip-hop media politics
• [18:27] – Knicks, NBA takes
• [21:38] – Iron Sheik wrestling story
• [26:32] – Minks, cold weather nostalgia and gear
• [31:16] – Grammys segment: nominees and industry “cheat codes”
• [37:02] – Smelliest rappers, vegan deodorant rant
• [44:36] – Stinky people childhood stories, naked giant tale
• [50:12] – “Machete as a kid” rescue story
• [54:44] – Snitching, culture shift with streamers
• [56:25] – Snoop Dogg vs 50 Cent debate
• [62:52] – NFL Playoff and Super Bowl picks

Tone & Style

The conversation is irreverently honest, funny, and full of their shared street wisdom and hip-hop roots. Both hosts riff easily, blending playful teasing with deeper insights into culture, success, and authenticity. Listeners get the real-deal NYC barbershop vibe, with lots of inside jokes, cultural references, and that iconic Fat Joe/Jadakiss chemistry.

Great episode if you want laughter, pop culture commentary, and the real energy of hip-hop royalty.