Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss REACT to Bad Bunny EARNING Super Bowl, Mark Sanchez arrested, ESPN's NBA rankings

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Joe and Jada: Fat Joe & Jadakiss React to Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl Nod, Mark Sanchez Arrest, ESPN NBA Rankings
October 7, 2025 | iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

This vibrant episode of The Herd’s “Joe and Jada Show” — hosted by hip-hop legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss — delivers unfiltered, high-energy takes on today’s biggest sports and pop culture stories. Joe and Jada dive into Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl halftime selection and the racial undertones of its backlash, raucously debate ESPN’s new NBA player rankings (with plenty of Knicks love), discuss Mark Sanchez’s recent arrest, and share wild personal stories from the road, the jails, and backstage. The duo’s chemistry and real talk are on full display, mixing laugh-out-loud tales with sharp cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life, Wealth, and Status Symbols (00:34–02:38)

• Fashion Flexes: Joe and Jada banter about luxury streetwear and high-end resale value.

• On Watches as Investments:

  “Even when you go into the watch collection, the one thing you know you got besides money is watches. That shit straight cash, whatever.” – Fat Joe [02:16]

• Resale Realities:

  • Fat Joe vents about being “stuck” with brands resellers don’t want.

• Friendship & Loans:

  • Fat Joe jokes about “DJ Khaled won’t give me a dollar” [02:25].

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2. Jada’s Experience Visiting Prisons (02:41–06:43)

• Visits to Marcy Correctional Facility & Mid State:
  • Jada participates in Second Chance University with Andre Norman, interacting with inmates across age groups.
  • The program gets both inmates and correctional officers (COs) to see each other’s perspectives.
• On Systemic Issues:

  “If they just look at you already as a piece of shit, they not even hearing your problems.” – Jada [05:22]

  • Jada notes severe understaffing and the National Guard filling in. COs often dismiss inmates’ needs outright.

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3. Fat Joe’s Abu Dhabi Adventures & Conspiracy Theories (06:44–19:49)

• Performing and Networking:
  • Joe performs at the NBA preseason in Abu Dhabi, hobnobs with “His Royal Highness” and celebrities like Steve Harvey.

  “They want you to sit next to them. I’m with the Royal Highness… these guys are my guys.” – Fat Joe [09:19]

• NBA Legends on the Plane:
  • Encounters with Mark Jackson, Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Andre Iguodala.
• On Food Abroad:
  • Brooklyn Chopouts in Abu Dhabi is “better than New York food.”
• Robot Greeters & AI Paranoia:
  • Fat Joe delivers a hilarious, paranoid riff about the emotionless, robot-like “greeters” at Dubai airport.

  “I think they got AI greeters in Dubai already working… I swear to God, by the third one, we just started going, yo, these dudes is AI or what?” – Fat Joe [17:00]

  • Jada adds: “They said some of the birds is cameras over there.” [17:47]

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4. NBA, Wembanyama, and ESPN’s 2025 Rankings (20:06–28:50)

• Wemby Hype & Future of NBA:

  “I watched this guy Wimba Yamba come down… He gonna win like six, seven chips by himself.” – Fat Joe [20:22]

• Debate Over ESPN’s Top 10 NBA Players
  • Fat Joe and Jada give their unfiltered reactions:
    • #1 Jokic gets respect (“You can’t have a problem with that” – Jada [21:47])
    • Luka Doncic at #3 is “not valid” (Fat Joe [22:19])
    • Giannis at #4 is “not putting in that work” [22:19]
    • Anthony Edwards deserves higher than #6 (should be top five, possibly #3) [23:34–23:40]
    • Steph Curry at #7: “Greatest of all time” but not his year [23:51]
    • Jalen Brunson is criminally underrated [24:23]

      “What kind of respect you got for my man? … You got the man, JB. He better than them. He top five.” – Fat Joe [24:24, 25:26]

  • Critique of NBA rankings as “lifetime achievement awards” rather than reflecting current performance.

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5. Gat about Money and NBA Contracts (27:12–28:50)

• Players Getting Paid for Low Production:

  “There’s guys getting $100 million to score 11 points… They pay you a hundred [million], you getting 10.7 [million] for 11.” – Fat Joe [27:54, 28:39]

• Call-back to overpaid NBA contracts as a hip-hop parallel:
  • “How much did Desiigner earn? He got one song.” (referencing hip-hop’s one-hit wonders) [28:56]

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6. Bad Bunny, Race, and America’s Super Bowl Stage (34:15–40:34)

• Supporting Bad Bunny’s Halftime Selection:

  “Let’s be clear about this. He’s the number one streaming star in the world… He made the whole world go to Puerto Rico.” – Fat Joe [34:49]

• Race & Cultural Backlash:

  “The problem with America is so racist that if we’re celebrating art, we’re celebrating culture, we’re doing a halftime performance, somebody gotta perform… Why does race have to always, always come into everything?” – Fat Joe [35:05]

  • Jada: “They’ve been bringing every single thing since I’ve been born… It’s everything.” [36:52]
• Apple’s Tech for Multilingual Halftimes:
  • Apple will offer real-time translation via iPods for those who don’t speak Spanish [37:26].
  • Fat Joe jokes about phone upgrades and being “played out” with tech.
• On Super Bowl Halftime’s Evolution:

  “I used to think halftime was only for the Rolling Stones and U2… now, ever since they put the black guys, they’ve been winning Emmys, ratings up.” – Fat Joe [39:06, 39:31]

  • Recognition of Roc Nation and JAY-Z for modernizing the show.

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7. Road Stories: Touring, Security, and Robbery in Mexico (41:12–46:08)

• On Traveling Like John Madden:
  • Fat Joe never used to fly: “I was the John Madden of hip-hop.” [40:52]
• Spring Break in Mexico:
  • “We got stuck up seven times [by] the police, the fucking policia.” [42:34]
  • Bribes, fears, and a memorable moment of grabbing a Bible after almost being robbed at gunpoint [44:11].

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8. Wild Studio Antics & Hip-Hop History (46:08–50:40)

• Battery Studio Memories:
  • Tales of pranks with Big Pun and Tony Sunshine; firing a prop gun to scare an engineer [48:23–49:08].
  • “If Tony Sunshine was the leader, we’d all be in jail for 30,000 years.” – Fat Joe [49:42]
• Hotel Ban Stories:
  • Getting banned from the Mandarin Oriental after Tony Sunshine slaps a server for cold food [49:50].

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9. Mark Sanchez’s Incident & Reflections on Age, Respect, and Violence (50:40–59:20)

• Mark Sanchez Arrest Story:
  • The “ketchup” incident: legendary footballer gets maced during an altercation with a 70-year-old man [50:40–54:13].

  “He gave him all pepper straights… The old man gave him ketchup. Legend.” – Fat Joe [52:22, 53:05]

• Generational Reflections on Conflict:
  • Fat Joe gets reflective, making it clear fights are no longer for him: “My crew gonna dance on you or my security gonna shoot your face… There’s no one on ones.” [54:59]
  • Lessons from elder statesmen, like J Prince: Let the young guys handle it [55:20].
• Early Life Story:
  • Fat Joe recounts waking his brother to handle unfinished business, leading to a fair one with a Golden Gloves champ—a nod to a different era’s code [58:04].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [02:16] Fat Joe: “Even when you go into the watch collection, the one thing you know you got besides money is watches.”
• [05:22] Jada: “If they just look at you already as a piece of shit, they not even hearing your problems.”
• [09:19] Fat Joe: “They want you to sit next to them. I’m with the Royal Highness… these guys are my guys.”
• [17:00] Fat Joe: “I think they got AI greeters in Dubai already working… I swear to God, by the third one, we just started going, yo, these dudes is AI or what?”
• [20:22] Fat Joe on Victor Wembanyama: “He gonna win like six, seven chips by himself.”
• [24:24] Fat Joe on Jalen Brunson: “What kind of respect you got for my man? … You got the man, JB. He better than them. He top five.”
• [35:05] Fat Joe on Super Bowl & race: “The problem with America is so racist that if we’re celebrating art, we’re celebrating culture, we’re doing a halftime performance, somebody gotta perform… Why does race have to always, always come into everything?”
• [39:31] Fat Joe: “Ever since they put the black guys, they’ve been winning Emmys every year. Guess what? The rating's been up.”
• [42:34] Fat Joe: “We got stuck up seven times [by] the police, the fucking policia.”
• [52:22] Fat Joe (on Sanchez incident): “He gave him all pepper straights… The old man gave him ketchup. Legend.”
• [54:59] Fat Joe: “There’s no fair ones. There’s no one on ones in the face. No, no. Shoot your face, Scarface. He shoots your face.”

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Luxury/Resale & Watch Talk: 00:34–02:38
• Prison Visits & Reform Discussion: 02:41–06:43
• Abu Dhabi Tales & AI Greeters: 06:44–19:49
• NBA/Wembanyama & Ranking Debate: 20:06–28:50
• Bad Bunny/Super Bowl & Race Commentary: 34:15–40:34
• Road Life & Police in Mexico: 41:12–46:08
• Wild Studio Memories: 46:08–50:40
• Mark Sanchez, Violence, and Age: 50:40–59:20

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Tone & Language

The show crackles with brash humor, New York street wisdom, and old-school hip-hop storytelling. Joe and Jada are raw, direct, and playful, switching from serious reflections on race or prison reform to ribald inside jokes and wild anecdotes. Their perspective is unapologetically that of OGs who’ve “seen it all” but remain invested in both the culture and the current sports landscape.

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Recommended for listeners who crave real, unfiltered sports talk, street-wise life lessons, and unpredictable stories from two of hip-hop’s most respected voices.

Transcript

[Podcast Narrator]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungy. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Fat Joe]

Patreon. We here subscribe for the free.

[Jada]

First give you a few for free.

[Fat Joe]

Then we going to give you that. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what up, y'? All? It's your boy, Joe Crack.

[Jada]

Know who it is. Your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show.

[Fat Joe]

Every show legendary, Every show iconic, Biggest in the game. You hear me? Hey, yo, Jada, man, that little outfit look nice though. You like?

[Jada]

Oh my.

[Fat Joe]

I don't mean a little watch, man. How about the big outfit you want me to do now? You said, I like that Louis shirt.

[Jada]

I like that Louis outfit. Yo, Crack, that. That LV outfit is nice.

[Fat Joe]

I like to thank you. You know, they stepping they up. You know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

No doubt.

[Fat Joe]

And you know, nowadays I buy for the resellers.

[Jada]

Yeah. Cause all of this go back for double when you.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, you can sell it for double. And you know they take that LV like I'm big in Bottega, but the resellers don't take Bottega. So I'm stuck with all them. But yeah, I think so.

[Jada]

They don't even want.

[Fat Joe]

They say $17,000 jackets and shirts.

[Jada]

Stay out of that.

[Fat Joe]

Niggas is out of that. They like, yo, bring me Louie, bring me Gucci, bring me whatever. Anyway, we haven't traded shit. I'm just saying it's good to know you got some shit of value that can go.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? Even when you go into the watch collection, the one thing you know you got besides money is watches.

[Jada]

That's a fact.

[Fat Joe]

That shit straight cash, whatever. You want to go out there and dump a load. You know what I mean? You. Not that I have, not that I want to, not that I need to, but every now and then you want your best friend Khaled to say he'll give you a fucking loan or something. That motherfucker won't give me a dollar. They probably now spent us on the loan. They probably got me on the list at the door like, yo, don't let Joe in unannounced, callous.

[Jada]

Spent us on the loan. Talk.

[Fat Joe]

You came back from the prisons? Yeah, talk to us.

[Jada]

I went to Marcy Correctional Facility. Then I went across the street to Mid State.

[Fat Joe]

What was that like?

[Jada]

Shout out to these is real jails, guys. Shout out to Second Chance University. Shout out to my brother, Andre Norman.

[Fat Joe]

I love what your man is doing with the jails and all that.

[Jada]

Andre Norman BXTONE, Ricky Kelly, Dr. Life. It's my other big man name. Yeah, Big. The Big Homie man, and my brother, Big Homie. We was in there, though, just talking to the inmates, you know what I mean? We was able to work out with him. We was able to sit down, know what I mean? Kick some real life with them. Try to.

[Fat Joe]

Was they younger or. They was like.

[Jada]

They was young our age, older than us, you know what I mean? But we was really able to kick it with them. Me and K was actually sitting in the gymnasium in the bleachers. I seen my man Cat from Yonkers. I seen a couple people from Mount Vernon.

[Fat Joe]

It's sad you be wondering where people at when you go in there. I performed at Four Dicks one time. Shout out my brother, Billy Blanco. And I walked in the yard. I performed in the yard. Everybody ever wondered where they was at. They was in that motherfucker. I'm like, God damn, these niggas. They doing hell of a time. And, you know, you go in there and you see them, you know, crazy story. So what y'. All. What. What. What's the story? What. What you talking about?

[Jada]

It was really about. She was. She was a experience for me because you go in and sit with the. The deputy wardens and the. The head of the staff. Then they tell you the issues. Whatever's going on in the jail is a lot of drugs, a lot of violence. The dudes I was with asked them, do y' all want to keep. Keep this going or do y' all want us to fix? So then they go in there, speak to the inmates, or they call them the I and I. Just get their mind right. Let them know that you want to get some programs. If you want to get some better things going on in the jail, you got to collaborate with the staff and the cos. Now, we know police is police, but was. What was. I thought was flavor about the program is after they talk to the inmates, they sit down with the CEOs in them and tell them what they doing wrong and what they need to fix so the whole jail could know what I mean? It could be less violent.

[Fat Joe]

What are the CEOs doing this wrong?

[Jada]

I Mean, sometimes they listening to you sometimes, you know what I mean? If they just looking at you already as a piece of shit, they not even hearing your problems or you know what I mean? You got to look at it like that. And another thing I seen Up Top is understaffed. They said they was one of the spots we went to require like 480, cos it was only 200 and something. They had regular civilians working and they had National Guard niggas with the brown army suitors in there. So that gotta be a little crazy, too. It ain't enough workers, man.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out my brother, Pistol Pete dog in the yard. That's how I know about your man. He be taking pistols in there to talk to the inmates. Your man, he doing amazing work up in there in the jails. And so he got access to Pistol. Pistol in there. Going in the jail.

[Jada]

Pistol was in the Pistol went up in the max.

[Fat Joe]

He interviewing the monsters they let me.

[Jada]

Do because you wasn't with me. A Jada and Jada a segment. It was fired. I interviewed a OG. Shout out to my OG. He had 24 in. Hopefully he about to get out. And I interviewed the deputy that was ill in front of the inmates. They asked me questions. That was fired. It's going to be on the tablets, actually. If you in there, you got a tay then Jason.

[Fat Joe]

Now we gotta go in there one.

[Jada]

Day, we gotta go.

[Fat Joe]

Me, I had a whole different experience. I went to Abu Dhabi.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Uae. What's the Abu Dhabi, baby? Now, if I.

[Jada]

Before you even start, what's your name over there?

[Fat Joe]

Ali Kashani. Yo, Salaam alaikum. I am Ali Kashani.

[Jada]

What is it?

[Fat Joe]

Are you saying I am Ali Kashani? You know what I got.

[Jada]

I switch his own tone.

[Fat Joe]

I go up to the. I'm walking out. I am Ali Kashani. They like you, Fat Joe. Get out of here. I'm walking out the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, let me not big up Dubai too much or Abu Dhabi too much. I'm already in heat, you know, I'm there too much. I love it too much. And shout out my brother, Rashid binhasid, man. So we go to Abu Dhabi. The first thing is the plane. I go on the plane. Now, I am a Knick fan to the. But I'm not a groupie.

[Jada]

But if I was a group playing with the Knicks.

[Fat Joe]

Not the Knicks, but on the plane at Mark Jackson, Patrick Ewan was on the plane. John Starks, you know, if I wanted to Harass people. That would have been harassment 101. Like, it was like all the legends was on the plane. Igu dollar was on the plane. Shit was crazy. The whole NBA was on the plane, right? Not the Knick players or them. But we go over there and, you know, I was just in Dubai last week, so I'm back home. We go to Abu Dhabi. Brooklyn Chopouts.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know, you got the Abu Dhabi in his pocket. Might be better than the New York fool was. Bang. I went. The first time they opened up, it was like, real mid. I was like, damn, they better get somebody in here who know. But now that shit was crazy. We went to eat there two nights in the world.

[Jada]

It was like he was over here.

[Fat Joe]

It was big time.

[Jada]

Shit was banging.

[Fat Joe]

Was big time.

[Jada]

They.

[Fat Joe]

That shit was banging. We went up in there. We. Boy, I seen Chris Gotti. We took him to dinner. Couple guys, I don't know what. My man, my man, his name is. I'm trying to get him as a sponsor. 100 coconut. It's a coconut water. It's called a honey coconut. But he was over there with. You know, listen, I told him because he's sitting next to me, okay? I told him. I said like this, yo, you know why he told me? He watches the podcast. I said, well, you might witness, because you're going to see His Royal Highness come up to me and salute the God. And he was like, what? What do you mean? His Royal Highness come in, stops your. Joe, how you been, my brother? Salaam alaikum. This is. I know these guys. So I'm kicking it with His Royal Highness. Your man Steve Harvey was there. He had to see Royal Highness come up to me. I don't mean like he was walking by. The man came to me. They even told me, yo, it's Royal Highness in them. They want you to sit next to them. I said, yo, I'm with Rasha Beha. I said, I'm good. Like, no, no, Royal Highness wants you. You know, I've been going to Dubai and Abu Dhabi 20 years. These guys are my guys. So the more to the stories I told, homeboy, I said, you see, they gonna say his cap. When I say, on Joe and Jada, His Royal Highness came up. Cue my witness. But anyway, I met some beautiful people. We went to dinner with them, and I performed for the NBA halftime. That was amazing. That we gotta imagine. You get to go to your favorite place, perform for your favorite team. And I had to be. I had to be neutral. I couldn't be like, let's go, Knicks. Cause this was for the NBA, and they playing Philly. So, you know, I actually.

[Jada]

They told you. They told you. You had that commie.

[Fat Joe]

That 1 billion percent don't wear gear that looks like Knicks. Don't. You know, just. It's for everybody.

[Jada]

Oh, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You're hired from the NBA. You not with the Knicks. The minute that performance came out, that shit was out the dorm. Yo, let's go. Yo, I'mma tell you right now, and I'm not making no excuses, the Knicks are going to win the championship this year. Now, I hope so. No, no. What I'm trying to tell you is that. And I never said that before, guys, not even last year. But we are so stocked up, bro. I mean, this shit. And, you know, when I won them chips, you can't compare NBA to the Rucker. But when I won them chips at the ruck, wasn't nobody just laying down, giving you the chip. We were stocked up. You know, our 15, man could have.

[Jada]

Been a starter to the NBA, dog.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm just telling you, it's hard to win a chip.

[Jada]

It is.

[Fat Joe]

All right, so what I'm saying to you is, off the bench, Jordan Clarkson, we got Gershon, the big African. You know, he lives down the block from me, right?

[Jada]

He'll make it again. We're not going to get into demographics, huh? Yeah, you always.

[Fat Joe]

He's African, bro.

[Jada]

Dang, we all African.

[Fat Joe]

He's French African. He's in the Congo, bro. Let me tell you something. When you. Let me explain something to you. When you got the Spanish soccer team, and it's a guy, the blackest guy in the world, doing all the games. They got him from Africa, gave him the fucking visa so he could play there. It's like a college. Just because you play at Penn State don't mean you not from fucking Miami.

[Jada]

You know, they got black Dominican.

[Fat Joe]

They got black Cuban. I got black Cuban brothers. You're complacent. So what are you. This guy's African. He's my man. Look, how about I'm his friends. Matter of fact, I'm bringing him on the show. I'm bringing him on the show. He's my neighbor.

[Jada]

Didn't he play with Wemby in them?

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Wemby.

[Jada]

Yeah, he played with Wemby.

[Fat Joe]

Yo. Yo, Wemby. Yo, he's gangster. Yeah.

[Jada]

Born in France.

[Fat Joe]

Born and grew up in France. My father. My mother's from Puerto Rico, but I'm American. Okay, I got that. But does he. Oh, yo, get the out of here. This guy from the Congo. This guy's not eating.

[Jada]

He wasn't.

[Fat Joe]

He's not in the. He's not eating. He's not eating them cookies and. Yeah, you right.

[Jada]

Yo. Yeah, yeah. This thing is crazy, dog. I just. Speaking of, I shot a Nike commercial with Josh Harden.

[Fat Joe]

You still.

[Jada]

For the new Nick jerseys. And when we were shooting it, this dude came by with a face. A faja on his face.

[Fat Joe]

He had a faja on his face, but it was stretching his face. Who, Josh Hart?

[Jada]

No. Somebody.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, who you talking about? A stranger. I don't know. He had.

[Jada]

Shooting a video outside. Across the street from the Garden, a dude came by.

[Fat Joe]

He had the fire on the face.

[Jada]

He had a what?

[Fat Joe]

He had, like, a mask, but it was fire.

[Jada]

It was the same material as the ladies have, but it was a face one. He had face work. He was supposed to stay in the.

[Fat Joe]

Crib, but he came out with that new nose. Like when I went to. You know, I went to Turkey last week. That. They all had the hair, the line, bloody lines. Popeyes eating chicken. Everybody in there with. They. Everybody went to Turkey to get their hair done in the. Popeyes. I'm kidding you not. I'm kidding you. Not. They. They getting work done. But, you know, scared the. Out of me, man. Not. Not when I be on the plane, right? And I'm getting better. I'm. I'm speaking it into existence. I'm not as scared on the planes no more. I went after you go to Mongolia, back the next week. Abu Dhabi. This. You gotta cut it out and say, all right, Joe, you're kind of an expert at this shit right now, right? But what I'm saying is. Old Asian lady, I looked to the side, out of nowhere, she threw the shit on the face. Like, the plastic, like alien, man. Like, replace that. Nah, they got. My daughter does that. A porcelain. Yeah, yeah, but you wake up at three in the morning on Emirates and going like that. You look at the Chinese lady, she got the mask on. You like, yo, going on in this. And I'm off of ambient. I'm all for ambient. You know, people. People walking, they sleep. And I get up off the ambient, I'm like, yo, this look like an alien on this motherfucker right here. Let me tell you. I'm gonna tell you something else. I noticed, guys. And listen, there's not enough flags for you to throw here, because this is definitely.

[Jada]

We got.

[Fat Joe]

Wait, yo, listen. I went to Dubai three weeks in a row type shit. The escorts, you know, I hire escorts. Like pause. What they call the guys that take you down? Greeters. Pause, pause. Greeters. I do that. Here. There's a service greeter. They take you right on the plane. They drive you. No, you need that. I'll give you that, but you need that. They drive you, right? But then you don't see human beings like me. They got me stashed. They got me stashed. Yo, I'm tired of these dudes. The other day, I'm in Ritz Carlton in Dallas. Ain't nothing but rich. All you white people in there. Sir, go to the room. Sir, go to the room. I said, why y' all don't want me to see human beings, man? I want to talk to somebody, man.

[Jada]

Can you stop it? Whenever you want.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, these guys, man, they got me. But I'm safe. I'm trying to stay safe. No new mistakes. Seek the kingdom. Whenever. Temptation. Whenever they tell you, let's hang out, let's go to the club. Let's this that. Seek the kingdom. Seek no new mistakes. Seek the kingdom.

[Jada]

Seek the kingdom.

[Fat Joe]

So I go, so listen, I'm trying to tell you something. It's crazy. What I'm trying to tell you is crazy, though, right? You gotta forgive me for this, because this is crazy. Hear me? K. Nobody. I go to Dubai degree to come. Why I feel like this is the human AI, like real AI. I'm not talking about human being. I'm talking about a robot AI. It would be a place like Dubai to experiment the shit for the first time, right? The dudes walking his shit look like this. He got no expression. He don't smile none the hairs, all this. And I'm like this. After the third time, they kept giving me greeters. They look like not you. They're not arguing with you. They're not. It just look like. I think they got AI greeters in Dubai already working like a ready to robot move. I'm looking at the dude's shoulder. I'm like, yo, look at this. His shoulder moving like, you know, they moving like a robot. Like, yo, I'm with. I'm yo, you have to be there. I'm a tape one of these guys one time. They don't have no expression. They don't laugh. They don't nothing. They don't this. I swear to God, by the third one, we just started going, yo, these dudes is AI or what? Cause, you know, human being argue with you.

[Jada]

They have robots. They said they birds is not birds. They said some of the birds is cameras over.

[Fat Joe]

I'm Telling you something. I'm not bullshitting you. I'm not trying to scare you. I seen about two to three robotic guys in the system. They grabbing your bag, sir. Let me get your passport. He ain't got a smile or nothing. Like, he like, you made him in Y2K. He knew we was talking about him. He knew. He didn't know we was talking about him directly, but he knew we was like, yo, yo, the teeping yo to get. Like we up there. Like, he knew we knew. He's AI, no question. And he's sitting there like, yo, it's our secret, okay? He's sitting there like, it's our secret. I know you guys, you can't lie to no Bronx dudes like that. We up in this shit we looking at. We say this nigga was like, ribbit, get the bag. Ribbit, get the bag. Like, ribbit. Yo, yo, I'm telling you here, you are a straight computer.

[Jada]

Yo, how many was it? Was it a lot of them?

[Fat Joe]

No, every time, I think all agreed us, because every time we kept. All right, so we went to Mongolia, came back. This is every time we got a greet up. You know, humans got faults. Like, this guy got a hat, he's about to reach for the water. This, this, this, this. These guys is moving. And then when you watch them from the back your Lori, I swear to God, they're walking like. Like, if you saw a game, like a fucking Y2K, just walk. And I'm like, yo, these dudes might be the AI. Shit, think about it. Dubai would be the first place to use them. They're ahead of time with everything, all technology, everything, everything. They would be maybe 10, 20 years. They'll come back to this videotape and be like, yo, Fat Joe, he saw, he knew. Cause they not human, bro. They like this. And they don't smile. They don't do nothing.

[Jada]

They grab you. The only person that saw them, well.

[Fat Joe]

Me and the whole crew, Rich Flair was there. Whoever was there. Tone, Sunshine, everybody agreed these guys are AI. By the third one, we was like, nah, it's AI, Forget about it. It's over. Huh?

[Jada]

I Robot, it wasn't.

[Fat Joe]

This is what I'm trying to tell you. It's like Irobot. I mean, Dubai would do it. I'm telling you. I never felt that in my life. I'm not a conspiracy theory, but that's definitely an issue. Let's get back. Let's get back to Wimba Yamba. This league is not. What did I say now?

[Jada]

This league, you Mean, the NBA.

[Fat Joe]

The NBA. It's over for anybody by next year. I watched this guy, Wimba Yamba come down. Seven, four. What is he, seven sevens?

[Jada]

What is he, seven, five.

[Fat Joe]

I watched him come down, bring the ball like a point guard. This is a true story. Spin it around and shit. Homeboy tried to come up. Homeboy tried to come up to play him. He shoved him off like that. The dude flew into the stands and he dunked the board. Like, who's supposed to stop that? Nobody's stopping Wimba Yamba. Wimba Yamba is the future of this league. He gonna win like six, seven chips by himself. I'm telling you, this insanity, this Wimble Yamba, this. When the Wimba Yamba era starts, people gonna have a problem. No, no, it ain't start. Yeah, he ain't ready yet.

[Jada]

He.

[Fat Joe]

He gotta get a little bigger. You've seen this pause. You seen this? Yeah. Trying to work out with them jail dudes. You doing them Yonkers bars. Them up in there like, come on, Jay. Yo, Jay. They make you really do the bars. Yeah. Come on, homie. Yeah. You know that. Then there he be up on that Instagram setting the camera up. He look on them. They got niggas in there named Bakatang doing them shits with one finger. Your shit fucked up right now, man. Yo, ESPN drops the top 100 players.

[Jada]

The NBA.

[Fat Joe]

I have a super problem with this.

[Jada]

Let's hear it.

[Fat Joe]

Right, Number one, the Joker.

[Jada]

That's arguably. You can't. You don't have a problem with that?

[Fat Joe]

I don't have a problem with that. How you know I ain't got a. I ain't got a problem with this Joker.

[Jada]

You can't have a problem.

[Fat Joe]

He's just Slinky. He could do whatever he want. Shot.

[Jada]

You ain't got a problem with that?

[Fat Joe]

What was that record? Are you shy?

[Jada]

You shy? Say my name.

[Fat Joe]

No. No. You shy. The very first time I saw you around us, my lips are hell up. But anyway, Shot number two. I ain't got a problem.

[Jada]

The fuck is he?

[Fat Joe]

Number three. Luka. Luka ain't do that. He ain't caused that damage last year. They didn't go nowhere. Luka cannot be at number three. Yes, he is very, very talented. See, what I am doing is I'm getting tired of people rating. I got it. I'm getting tired. Thank you, brother. More to front. This shirt crazy, though. How you like this Louis Vuitton? You see that? Sick. Hello, Hello, Hello. This shit dancing on him. Hello. Right? Number three. Luca not valid for Giannis. Giannis is one of my favorite. But he can't be number four. He ain't been putting in that type of work. He ain't going to no finals or nothing like that. What you want me to do, like lie to you? I'm getting tired of people telling me, yo, they was the hottest. For the last 10 years, they was the hottest of the. No. Who's hot now? We want to know who's hot now. Because when you was hot, you had it. Who's hot now? He's not. Wimba Yamba ain't ready either, too. He's number five. But this year he'll be way up there. I'm telling you, he been working out. Anthony Edwards deserves to be even lower than number six, right?

[Jada]

Higher?

[Fat Joe]

You mean higher? Higher than number six. Anthony Edwards is.

[Jada]

You think he should be three or four?

[Fat Joe]

Top five, man.

[Jada]

This guy now, go.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, if he gets aggressive. If he gets aggressive, he'd be top three. They got him at six. He's sitting on the youth.

[Jada]

Let's go.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, Steph Curry at number seven. Steph, my man, greatest of all time.

[Jada]

What do you think he should be? How could you push the greatest in all time?

[Fat Joe]

You shot. Yeah, but what you gonna just by default, Give. They got LeBron in there. KD. LeBron, KD. And then Jalen Brunson. This is where the problem is. What kind of respect you got for my man? My man breaks his arms in the playoffs, he scores 40 something every game. He takes us to the finals. First time in 25 years. You got the man, JB.

[Jada]

You gotta understand, he's working his way to be one of.

[Fat Joe]

Working his way.

[Jada]

No, he's.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, but these guys. No, I want to know. So what is it?

[Jada]

Listen, he got one or two years.

[Fat Joe]

Is this a lifetime achievement award?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

They wasn't as hot as him.

[Jada]

He was one of them.

[Fat Joe]

Don't work like that, kids.

[Jada]

That's it.

[Fat Joe]

I know the narrative work for me and you. Cause we the OGs. But you can't put the OGs on there if they're not as good as they used to.

[Jada]

You saying with somebody with two albums shouldn't be next to you. It's the same thing. He's gonna be one of them.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I'm talking about now. So what is. Nah, nah. He better than them. He top five. He better than them. Sorry. I'm sorry. Wemby should be right behind him. Wemby ain't put in no work yet. He's a promising Wemby's almost in the Zion. You know, Wemby's promising. He ain't do no work yet. But let me tell you something. Jalen Brunson better than all of them right now. I'm just being out there. He should be top five.

[Jada]

He's better than.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no. He's behind Joker, he's behind Sha, Anthony Edwards, and then Jalen. I got Jalen at four. I got at four. I'm sorry, bro.

[Jada]

You putting Jalen in front of Luka?

[Fat Joe]

Hell, yeah. Because he's a leader. He took our team further than we under the leader that don't got nothing to do. He ain't talking. That's also the greatest American to me of all time. Martin Luther King. You speaking true leadership.

[Jada]

Yeah, man.

[Fat Joe]

Martin Luther King, the greatest American of all time.

[Jada]

I want the Knicks to win. I love Jalen Brunson. You putting them in.

[Fat Joe]

So you putting all these guys in front of him.

[Jada]

I put you in a straight jacket.

[Fat Joe]

He's way better than Luca right now. We went to the Finals, man. We went to the east finals.

[Jada]

Luca went to the finals.

[Fat Joe]

The real guy said he got packed up.

[Jada]

This guy didn't get packed up in the finals again.

[Fat Joe]

That was two years ago. I'm talking about last year. All right, you got Luca. Let me tell you something. No, I love James sleeping on our Knicks. Let me tell you something. Jalen Brunson. No, let me say, yo, James, you too loose with them flags today. Let me explain something to you. What the man need to be in a gang or get tattoos. What he got to do so you could. Because he's a nice guy, clean cut guy, they won't rate him. Who I mean? Jaylane Brunson.

[Jada]

To make the top 10 of the NBA is a special thing.

[Fat Joe]

But let me ask you something.

[Jada]

What are you talking about?

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask you something. There's guys that they pay $100 million. He's one of hold up. To score 11 points. There's a guy they know, two time felon. You good for 11 points. And you play hard, paying nobody. I'm telling you, to score 11.

[Jada]

They might got some people that scoring that get paid a hunt, but that ain't what. They didn't sit down and say, score 11. They go 100.

[Fat Joe]

Sorry. I'm sorry. Yo, J, let me explain something to you on the phone. Do you know how hard it is to score 11 points in the NBA Northwest?

[Jada]

Get everybody on the phone.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, listen. Do you know how hard it is to score 11 points in the NBA and to get a couple of rebounds.

[Jada]

For me and you.

[Fat Joe]

Blue cup. No, no, no, no.

[Jada]

Talking about. You know how hard it is getting paid 100 million. And we want you to go out get us 11 and every.

[Fat Joe]

You reminded me. And I don't want to say but you make him say. You remind me of Rashad Lewis. Remember he caught that 200 million. He never scored a point again. What I'm trying to tell you all your man from Memphis. What's your man, the point guard. That was dumb nights they gave him that bag. He never scored him. He. No, no, no, no. Not John Morant. Conley never scored a point again, bro.

[Jada]

Listen, Conley scoring 11 now in his fucking.

[Fat Joe]

How much. How much money is Mike Connolly getting right now? Two time felon.

[Jada]

Oh, he's at the Google it.

[Fat Joe]

How much money he's getting? 20, 24. Jesus Christ. This nigga been scoring three points the last 13.

[Jada]

This is the end of his career.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, kiss. You not letting me get to my bar, my punchline. You're not letting me get to my punchline.

[Jada]

Said they pay you a hundred.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, my man in there getting 100 me. How much money he's getting? He gets saying 10.7 million is 411. Hold up. All right, 10.7.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

What if you're averaging 40 points? We got enough people we know.

[Jada]

How much did designer earn?

[Fat Joe]

He got one song. Who? Pender, Pender, Pender, Pender, Pender. Any jerk yonder.

[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

Oh, no. Everybody going to Turkey. I gotta fight all the time. They tell me Nori went to Turkey. I'll be like, yo, my man get ahead with that man. He Puerto Rican and black. Did he? Yeah, that's the question. I don't think he did. I don't think. I don't think Nori would do that.

[Jada]

The season for mad years. Then he just went to the States.

[Fat Joe]

Came into the Poppy. He came in. No, he had a Caesar. And then we talking about Noriega. Guys. He had a season. Then he came out with the wavy shit. Like his name was Rodolpho. Like his shit grew up. No, no, he just came up like now he got the dreads. So they always. Cause he's my brother. They tell me all the time, you know, your man went to Turkey. I personally don't believe that Nori went to Turkey. I don't think he's like that type guy, right?

[Jada]

Might have got his shit done at.

[Fat Joe]

Ball left, Rock or some shit. Bell all but they probably got you paid double. You paid dou in the States. Like me, I wouldn't go out the country to do some surgery. I would pay double and stay in the country. I don't know if that makes sense.

[Jada]

That makes sense. How was the halftime performance? Like, how did they lace, you know?

[Fat Joe]

You know, I practiced three times and I learned that from JLo. JLo is like a super duper practice. She'll make you practice with her for, you know, you've been in shows with JLo. I was at a show with you and JLo, too. She makes you practice and shit. And so I said, you know why? It's the NBA? It's Abu Dhabi. Let me practice. So I practiced three times. They had the Philly dance and shout out to the mascot. He watch our show all the time. My man from Philly watch our show all the time. And so we practiced. This shit was great, man. Once you practice, you can't even mess up. You just got that shit. Then I went over there And I heard that, the echo on the mic. I got them earphones so fast. I said, yo, yo, yo, we not doing Yankee Stadium again. You see the Yankees, I'm scared to even go to the game. Cause they gonna blame the whole shit on me. They said that it's my fault.

[Jada]

Yeah, don't go.

[Fat Joe]

So I'm down the block. I mean, my own glizzy in my house, yo. Oh, man. Nah, I'm watching this glizzy off the. Off the screen. I want to go support, but I'm scared. The minute they said show me, they gonna be like, this is gonna be with brown paperbacks. Like, fat game is over. The whole up bad news of the Yankees. This I gotta watch from home now.

[Jada]

Until we tie it up.

[Fat Joe]

You think we tying it up?

[Jada]

I hope so.

[Fat Joe]

That boy Big Papi Ortiz told Derek, Gina, they gonna him, Babe Ruth, Lou Garage, Yogi Bear, bring Reggie back.

[Jada]

We need to tie.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no. He said it's a rap. And all my Toronto guys started sending me Statue of Liberty with Toronto dressed up with Toronto uniform and shit. It's a rap. That, that, that right there is a rap. With Judge strikes out with three men on base, no outs, three, two count. You knew they was going to throw it down the pipe. That was it. He should have knocked that shit out the fucking park. So we didn't get that. So we got that established with the ESPN list. What else we alluding to?

[Jada]

Let me talk about. You got Anito, Anito, man, getting a lot of pushback, you know what I mean? I thought it was a beautiful thing being that he just coming off the biggest world tour, bringing almost damn near a billion dollars to the island of Puerto Rico. And now HOV is giving you a chance to check him out at the super bowl. And now he's getting now a bunch of hoopla. I don't understand it. I don't. It's damned if you do, you damned if you don't. What's your take on that, my brother? You know, Bad Boy.

[Fat Joe]

Let's be clear about this. He's the number one streaming star in the world. Somebody's listening to this, man. Number one streaming star in the world. You could google that shit if you want.

[Jada]

Fell it.

[Fat Joe]

Google it. Fell it. Two time felon. Yeah, he. At least he got a job, man. It's the most streamed album of all time. He's number one in the world. He made me, the whole world go to Puerto Rico to watch him perform. He deserves the spot. The problem with America is so racist that if we're celebrating art, we're celebrating culture. We're doing a halftime performance. Somebody gotta perform, whether they black, white, Asian, K pop, whatever you want to name. So at the end of the day, Kendrick Lamar did it last year. Is he big enough? Is he this. The ratings was through the roof. Was he big enough? Is he disentra. Now you got a guy who's Puerto Rican, by the way, ICE cannot arrest Puerto Ricans. We're Americans, duh. So I don't know what the fuck you on your truck with your Confederate flag thinking, yo, we going to lock up some Latinos. Yeah, they all Puerto Rican. They American citizens. What the fuck are you talking about? And my problem is, why does race have to always, always come into everything that's going. I mean, everything if you perform it. I didn't even see that right when they picked him, I said, all right, Bad Bunny, he the biggest. He gonna rock, right? I'm Latino and I don't know all the words to his song, but I know he's the shit and he's fire. So my thing is, once they throw in the race shit, I'm like, yo, where does this. Who's. I hate people. Black, Latino, white people, whoever, who always gotta bring race into every single thing. I just don't know why.

[Jada]

They've been bringing every. Every single thing since I've been born. So everything.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, no. But they. But now with social media is at an all time high. I don't know how they break this shit down into. It's everything. Everything turns into some racial shit. Bad bunnies coming to entertain you if you're. If. If you're white and you don't know Spanish, throwing your dance to shoes and have a hell of a time because all your friends are going to jump up and dance. He going to rock that shit like you never seen it.

[Jada]

It's going to translate it for you.

[Fat Joe]

What, the apples? Yeah, talk about that. So Apple got this. So Apple presents the halftime.

[Jada]

Got the ipods that translate it.

[Fat Joe]

Can translate it to English for you right at time. So why you. I need that. They're making us buy the new phone for this, right?

[Jada]

Everybody got an iPhone 15.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know if it's me. I'm. I'm. Look, I'm played out.

[Jada]

You down.

[Fat Joe]

Let me stay. Telling you, not speaking when it comes to technology, you under the 15. It comes to technology, I'm played out. Every time they want a new phone, it take me a month to figure out how to take a picture or something like that. Like Stop making these shits, man. Cause every time they make it, it's like a real.

[Jada]

Like the new. You got the 17?

[Fat Joe]

Hell, no. I'm gonna be the last one to get it. Because every time they bring up something new, I get it. And I don't know what the fuck going on. How to do Instagram, how to do this, how to do that. I'm confused. You know, my phone, I just got used to it, and my shit.

[Jada]

Oh, it's not the 15?

[Fat Joe]

No, it's not. I used to have the 15. The little.

[Jada]

Everybody had the 15.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but I really don't want no more upgrades. Nah, man, that shit whack one day.

[Jada]

It's like a computer. You must upgrade.

[Fat Joe]

So Bad Bunny at the super bowl, he earned it. I hate when they try to make a narrative like, oh, they did this on purpose to fight Ice. That. That's not true. He earned it. He's the number one streamer. What do you want me to do if next year they bring the K Pop guys? The guys. I don't know how much I would feel about that. But the K Pop guys, because they broke records and all that, you would have to understand that, you know, they the biggest in the game. The problem is that the NFL have always had, like, you know, don't go messing with Cotton. Nigel Cotton. I. Joe Cotton. Nigel, don't go.

[Jada]

Nobody's ever said nothing.

[Fat Joe]

All of them, we say, we must have seen Pat Benatar 10 times, Nigel Cotton, Eye Joe, that.

[Jada]

You know, I used to think halftime was only for the rolling stones and U2, and I thought it was. They had a lifetime residency with the Super Bowl. I thought I'd never see a black guy at the super bowl halftime, besides sweeping.

[Fat Joe]

Guess what? Ever since they put the black guys, they've been winning Emmys every year. Guess what? The rating's been up. So, you know, you say what you want. You know what I'm saying? And it's become a thing. Every time somebody does super bowl, the next week, we talking about it. Was it good? Was rated? It was, you know, shout out the whole. Shout out to Desiree Perez. Shout out to the whole Roc Nation getting together, pulling this one off. Because Shout out to the Rock. I love that Bad Bunny even did it. Cause Bad Bunny said he wasn't going tour in the United States. So I love the fact that he said, okay, I'm doing it, man. My sister Mary, her bag went up after she killed that halftime. She was headlining Essence Fest the next day. This. This. I watched the bag. I Know what the super bowl could do for you, Mary J. That's today's price. Is not today's price. Mary's shit went dumb after that. Tore this, this, that. Her shit went crazy.

[Jada]

Wow. You heard that? That's hip hop. Shout out to hip hop. Man, Kendrick is the most viewed. He beat out Michael Jackson and Mike had that spot for 32 years. Shout out to Kendrick for that. Shout out to hip hop. Shout out to Kendrick.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you what's crazy, right? You know, I always complain about the planes, even though I go across the world. But for a long time, I was the John Madden of hip hop. A good that they ain't a highway. I'm telling you, he never flew. He never flew, right? Huh?

[Jada]

He switched to the train. He had his own train.

[Fat Joe]

Well, I took buses.

[Jada]

Got their own train.

[Fat Joe]

Let me explain something. You. I never salute the man for that. I didn't know he did all that. I did the bus. I go to New York and Miami so much, I come out on the gas station or the Cracker Barrel and like, hey, Joe. Like, I live down the block. Fayetteville, North Carolina. Like, I done did every highway in America. And somebody was asking me and I thought about it, I said, you know, we took. We did spring break. That changed my life. Recipes. Irv Gotti, me and Ashanti did spring break after that show where they seen the crack of my ass. The album went up 25,000 a week. Like America couldn't get enough. That's when they discovered Joey Crack. They be on Soap Talk, Saturday Night Live. Yo, you believe this guy? Joey Crack? The crack of his ass shows? Nah. Incredible. But the sales, that's how bargaining. No, it just went platinum after America love a fat guy. I don't know why they love a fat guy. But the point I'm trying to make, man, is we took the bus to Mexico. This before we knew about chopping up. And I was thinking about. I drove through the whole Mexico to get to Cancun. You gotta drive through the whole. I drove through.

[Jada]

Drove to Cancun.

[Fat Joe]

I drove through forests that had elephant crossing. I didn't think it could just say elephant. The sign ain't deer, it's elephant, right? I drove through the whole thing, right? Well, on the tour bus, it reminded me we got stuck up seven times. Stuck up. Do you know who robbed us every time? The police, the fucking policia pull us over. Middle of Mexico City. You got to drive through the whole Chihuahua. You drive through Jimenez, Juarez, the whole Mexico, right? So they stopped me seven Times I got stuck up by the police. The last time, I just want you to know I'm not pussy. I don't get stuck up. No, I'm just letting you know, this is very foreign to my DNA, to my spirit.

[Jada]

Be.

[Fat Joe]

They keep pulling us over. Yo, $100. Like, they sticking us up. Like, you know. And then you gotta sit there like you pussy. And just be like, all right, it's the police. Whatever. This last time, we in the middle of nowhere. Some little Mexican dude walks out in the middle of the road. He got, like, the army suit on. Boom. His gun is taller than him. The man got a girl with him. Now. This girl, she looks like a working girl. That's the nicest way to put it. She got the cheap shoes, the shirt. She's a whore, right? She's with him in the middle of nowhere, right? Fuck it. In the middle of a jungle. She got the little guy like this, Stops the bus. Yo, they stopping us. We in the middle of the forest.

[Jada]

The whore stopped you?

[Fat Joe]

No, the. But the cop, whatever. He stops us in the middle. He got this gun bigger than him. He's a little. He comes on the bus. While he's coming on the bus, he's telling us, a hundred dollars, right? To pet. We only got stuck on my cops. The girl's sitting there laughing at us in our face, like. Cause he's like, we're pussy. Like, he's really robbing us. 400. She's. Oh, these guys are pussy. This and this. My man. After he got off the bus, I ran so fast. Slid on my knees. Slid on my knees. I grabbed that Bible so fast, started praying. God, please. Yes. And Job was. And God, I couldn't take it no more. Like, getting robbed by a little dude like this. With the girl laughing in my face. Yo, I couldn't take that. I had to. There was nowhere else to go but to the Bible, the good book of God. I went up in there, I started reading that, like, every single word, trying to. God. Is this the page you want me to read? Is this 234? Yo, that was some of the most craziest shit. And I'm. I'm. Yo, that. That was a tough time. I got one for y', all, okay? I got. I got one. Here, take these. No, no, you gotta take these. You gonna need them. You drove to Cancun. Listen. No, we drove to Cancun. That's easy. I'm gonna tell you this one. You gonna die. There's too many flags, right? So I remember I used to go to Battery Studio. You went to Battery Studio, right? Manhattan had to 20 something street, man. Them inmates, your back up. For real, man. You keep stretching, say that. Yeah.

[Jada]

He go nowhere.

[Fat Joe]

Next. Yo, listen, I love massages. I love massages, right? I love massages. I get massages on the regular. Yeah, yo, listen, yo, listen, yo. When I did my little four months, they told me, yo, the guy in cell 24, he's a real masseuse when he's hominosity of my man. Fuck you talking to? Get the fuck out of here with that. The in jail house. You can't. I don't give a fuck who you is. Bernie Madoff can't explain that one. He got a nigga massaging him in the jail, that shit over. But let me tell you something, man. I thought about Battery Studios the other day, and that's where I met Irv Gotti. One time we both booked the same studio because he was. He was on the other side than me. You know what I mean? They kept telling him, don't be cool with Fat Joe. Don't talk to him. But, you know, when we met each other, we realized we like brothers, right? But Battery Studio, I had that shit rented seven days a week. If I wasn't working there, Remy was working there. She wasn't working there. Pun was working there. If he wasn't, we just had that shit on lock. And I loved it. One day, I'm in the studio, right? And Tony Sunshine. Don't kill me, bro. I'm in the studio, and Tony Sunshine walks in with Big Pun, right? And they walk in the studio. Yo, Chris, what's up? This, this, that, and talk. And Pun keeps selling. Tone. Your tone, your tone. Yo, yo, yo, show him the apple. Show him the apple. This, this, this. You know, these guys were like, crazy, right? So the engineer is a little white boy, right? He's sitting there. They go and they tell him to sit straight. So I don't know what. I'm not in on this, right? So they told me, yo, sit up. Don't worry about it. Pun got this. You're going to be great. This. So the guy sweating bullets, he's sitting there, he's scared to death. Tone puts an apple on his head. Sit straight, bro. Don't move. If you sit straight, you good. This, this, this. Pun pulls out a gun. True story. Pun pulls out the hammer, right? Yo, sit there. This, this. The kid is sweating bullets like this. I'm sweating, but I'm like, yo, Pun, chill. Like, I'm telling dudes like yo, yo, yo, yo, stop playing this, this, that. Pun shoots the gun. So punishment. Bah.

[Jada]

Shoot the app.

[Fat Joe]

No, the apple falls down. The guy dives under the fucking thing. I start screaming. Cause you gotta understand. They call me the Funkiller. Yo, Pun, what the fuck? Fuck you, nigga. This, this. I'm losing my mind. Cause of the kit. It was like a prop gun that they use for the movies. But it shoot the shit. Sound like he's shooting the block. The app will fall down. Yo, you know, they never let us in Battery Studio again. I never was able to. I tried. Two years, three years, four years later, they was like, yo, your money not good here. These guys, we lucky. If it was today, that little white boy would have sued us for a billion dollars. Know what I'm saying? But, yo, these shit. These guys were too much, man. Big problem with his.

[Jada]

He shot the apple with a blank.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but he never shot it. It just sound like a real gun. There's no bullet come out of there. You know what I'm saying? Yo, man, this poor kid dove under that dashboard. That. That. He dove under that. I looked at him, I said, you know, some guys, I say it all the time. Some guys, you can't. Like, you guys are lucky. This guy's a leader. And he's calm. He thinks he wants y' all to not go to jail. He. This, if Tony Sunshine was the leader, we all be in jail for 30,000 years. Like, Tony, you get full with that fucking baby face in that R B. I'm sitting in the Mandarin Oriental one day, and the food coming, it's cold. He smacks the cheek off the guy, the delivery man. They threw me out of the Mandarin Oriental because, yo, the food is cold, the nuggets is cold. This is. I'm like, yo, Tom, how you smack the server? Smack the shit out of it. They never let me get back in there for, like 10 years. I went back two years, five years, yo. They was like, Nah, Mr. Carter. G& I used to live in there. Come. Nah, Mr. Carter. Ten years later, Miami. The low one in Miami. Oh, I love that spot. I come up in there like, yeah, they threw me out of there for, like 10 years. They kept like, nah, you can't come back. Finally, they must have changed the manager. They got me off the list. Now I could go back, but, yo, this nigga Tone Sunshine got me in a bunch of trouble, man.

[Jada]

And then Mark Sanchez, he caught something.

[Fat Joe]

Mark Chance. Yeah, he caught that ketchup legend, Mark Sanchez.

[Jada]

What? He caught.

[Fat Joe]

He caught that ketchup Legend. See young boys don't be sleeping on them old dudes. It's vice versa. I learned my lesson. One time I fronted on these young boys, they was about 60 pounds. And they pulled out a gun so big we got the running. They was blaming the whole like. I mean like you should have known. You just all right, this kid 60 pound flat. He talking mad shit. Big diesel dudes here, they gave him the beats. He pulled out the yalla and let that thing ring. So Legend. So he's starting with you because it's same thing. I'm talking about legend, God forbid. Like I'm telling you, legend, right? What I'm saying is we should have known the kid is 60 pounds. How you gonna start with a bunch of cock diesel guys coming in? You should have knew what he wanted to do. This old man, 69, Mark Sanchez, CoC. Diesel football player. Kept fucking with the man. He fucked with the man.

[Jada]

Did he put hands?

[Fat Joe]

Yes. The man said he feared for his life.

[Jada]

That was deserved ketchup.

[Fat Joe]

So the man gave him all pepper straights. First try to calm him down. And Mark, I don't know. Mark Sanchez was just drunk, high out of his mind. He want to start with this old man. The old man tried to pepper spray and back him up. He kept coming. He said, at that point, I thought this guy was hot, man. He did something. It's a man 70 years old.

[Jada]

He fucked that old man up.

[Fat Joe]

He's 70.

[Jada]

So how he got Hulk look either.

[Fat Joe]

Not a whole man. The old man had that Joey cupcake. He gave him that. He in the tube the mic quick. He in the tube the bike with the old man said. Ha ha. You know how you got that thing? Yeah. I think you are honorary Puerto Rican. You got that? I don't bring the ketchup out because I know I give him the ketchup. So. No, sometimes it's. Sometimes if you know, you might get. There's situations we might could get out with without the ketchup. If you got the ketchup on you. And I'll tell anybody, anybody who could look, he got that. He got Mark Sanchez the fuck up off him. 69 year old man gave him that ketchup. Legend like that ketchup will save your life.

[Jada]

It don't look like that from the picture.

[Fat Joe]

Ten guys beat you up. This guy's got. This guy's 70. Damn.

[Jada]

And he got arrested.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. Mark Sanchez got a bro. You 30 years old beating up a 70 year old. I don't know how to explain that.

[Jada]

Get hawked and arrested, though. That ain't. That don't go with each other. He in there, he handcuffed the thing. He. He bleeding out.

[Fat Joe]

I saw some strong 60 year olds. I ain't never see a strong 70 year old. Like 70 year old, the man that got every right to give. You catch up, you know? And I like Mark Sanchez. He's a good dude. He had a bad night. He probably fought with the wife. He probably went around the world two, three weeks in a row, came home and still got cursed out. When he sat in the couch, no food, done. Then he went outside and tried to fuck with the old man. The old man gave him ketchup. Legendary. Tell him. Tell your story walking. Anybody could pull that trigger. Anybody could pull that ketchup out of and give you the inner tube and release that air quick. Well, this ain't that.

[Jada]

That ain't this.

[Fat Joe]

It's cracking. Kiss, baby.

[Jada]

Don't get ketchup from a man that's 76.

[Fat Joe]

Don't get. Yo, listen. I mean, I've been seeing a lot of old dudes talking like this. Social media, I've been seeing a lot of old dudes, hood dudes talking wild shit on there like. Like they don't realize they 60, 70 or something. Like I be seeing them talk crazy. At what point like. Like me. I'll tell you the truth, Fat Joe. I'll tell you all the gangster stories. When I was younger, I fought everybody. This is that right now, my crew gonna dance on you or my security gonna shoot your face. I'm being honest with you. There's no fair ones. There's no one on ones in the face. No, no. Shoot your face, Scarface. He shoots your face.

[Jada]

He shoots your face.

[Fat Joe]

What you think the guy looked like? Born supremacy. Father for the man gonna take. I'm telling y', all, I don't have a problem with it. It's legal. You want to with me. You got a hammer? You got whatever you got. He's shooting your face off. My guys, they're gonna dance on you, Fat Joe. The days are one on one somewhere. It's over. Okay, So I don't know what these old dudes are doing.

[Jada]

Podcast might want to scrap with you, though. So you ain't gonna come back out now.

[Fat Joe]

They gonna get pounded out every time. They're gonna get. Not bomb me. This is not. It's a level. You know who taught me that One time. I think I want to say J Prince told me that one time. I seen him somewhere in la. We Was chilling Beverly Hills. And I was like, yeah, yo, Jay, you look young. This, this, that. And I was like, you know me. I was telling him about Sue. He was like, not supposed to be in that no more. You what you think you got the guys for? You're older now, Joe. You're not supposed to be. Nah, the guys are supposed to like, you know what I'm saying? So if you want to invite me to a one on one, you very confused. I don't have a problem with sending. Like, I don't have a problem. Yeah, I mean, what are you supposed to do? My days is over, man. And even when I did have one on ones, it was actually guys I liked that I had no choice. And I was like, you know what privilege?

[Jada]

Giving them the one on one.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Because the guy's a killer. We the infamous. So I'm like, yo, all right, we could fight one on one and get it over with and keep it moving. If I actually liked him or he was somehow a member. Right. But a stranger. One on one. Never in my life, man. We beat up this guy. I told you that story about the boxer that we. I hit him with the bottle on his head. I told you that story. I'm not playing. Let me tell you something. My brother was dead nice with his hands. My brother, money man, Angel Cartagena for everybody in forest project, dead nice. Every time he fought the whole project to come out, he fight. One day, I heard a rumor he was off the dust. Dude knocked him out. So they telling me, yo, Joe, such and such knock your brother out. This and this and that. Now my brother is my biggest idol. Month later, I see the guy they talking about. I go wake my brother up. That's why I don't. I don't wake nobody up out of their sleep. If you got beef, don't wake nobody up out of their sleep. Because they chilling. You waking them up for a problem. They sleep and chilling in the house. They safe already. You make it home, you safe. I wake up my brother. Yo, bro, that guy, man, he outside. They say he beat you up. This is my poor brother, man. Such a decent guy. He came out of work, he was sleeping. He didn't want to let his brother down. He throws his sneakers on his sweatsuit. He come out there with me, yo.

[Jada]

I already know, yo. I already feel that.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Jada. Yo, Jada, I go over there. So now, according to my brother, the guy we talking about snuffed him. He didn't give him the fair one, right? He snuffed My brother. That's how it happened. And my brother was high on angel dust. But my brother, catch him coming out the window, duff him, Boom. The dude fall on the floor. I'm a kid. I'm like 10 years old. My brother help him up and tell him now, let's shoot the fair one. The guy he's fighting is the Golden Gloves champion. Everybody know he dead. Nice. Not me. I'd have hit him with a bottle, gave him some ketchup, stomped him out with the crew. That had been the end of the conversation, right? So they get to fighting one on one. He knocked my brother down. This he. He gave my brother the beats one on one. But the whole time I'm walking with my brother, I'm a little kid, and I'm like, yo, why you give him the fair one? Why you ain't stomp him out while he was on the floor, June, why you ain't hit him with a bottle? He was like, nah, that's not. It's not me. That's how I get. No, I'm so. Risa, I'm hitting you with a rewind. It just. We're hitting you with a rewinded 10 over your head. I'm not playing with you, boy. Check this out. It's the Joe and Jada show, baby.

[Jada]

Another one.

[Podcast Narrator]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.