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Fetty Wap
Like, I remember one time we had Kane bro had invited me to his hood. I mean, we came out there to Yonkers like, and like, everybody looking at me crazy because I went to the Chinese store.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Like, I've been there, like, hosting four chicken wing Fresh.
Jada
You feel me?
Fetty Wap
But it's just like, you know, certain people got this. Got this. This aspect of how they view me because they hear the songs, but they don't know where I'm from.
Jada
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Crack the Dawn
What up, y'?
Unknown Guest
All?
Joe Crack the Dawn
This is Joe Crack the Dawn.
Jada
It's your boy, Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic Russian pun intended. When you think of today's guest, you think of a billboard. Russia. You think of melodies. You think of Patterson, New Jersey. You think of even though we sponsored by 18001738 owes this man Robin Jeans, they oldest man. You think of several sold out key words, sold out stadiums and arenas. You think of somebody that when you usually. When you. When you come out and have such an impact, it's hard to hit another one out the park. Like my brother Crackerson. You think of this guy, he's constantly smacking them out the park. You think of a great father. Think of somebody that was able to overcome adversity. You think of somebody that's able to about to do it again, you know what I mean? Being on top is always beautiful. Being at the top of the mountain. When you're able to fall off and get back to the top of the mountain, you're a special individual. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother, Fetty.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Wow.
Jada
Welcome to the Joe and Jada Show. My brother. What's good?
Fetty Wap
I'm easy on him, man. Easy style. You already know, man.
Jada
No doubt. I seen you in there working out, getting your mind right. Seeing you come home, you actually had a. A different kind of come home like him. I put him and Max B in the top. Come home, Max B came.
Jadakiss
French waited for him.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I don't know how much of a pause it is. It sound like something. Come on off. Rip release. Yo, Come on.
Unknown Guest
Come home.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Ain't no. He had one of the best come, homes. Yo, my man, that's why.
Jada
That's not forced. Cause your mother and my mama said it over 40 billion times.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Come on. I can never be a partner, okay?
Jada
But his release. We're gonna get our Harvard jargon up. His release from incarceration was one of the best and different and amazing that we seen. Like Max B. Where he actually went to see the lane. He went directly to the bag. Let me out. Let me go talk to these people and see how we gonna get back to the bread, you know what I
Joe Crack the Dawn
mean, man, Let me.
Jadakiss
Let me ask you something, man. So you go to jail, right? I don't know what you want me to say.
Jada
Nothing. My hands was tight.
Joe Crack the Dawn
What happens with Fetty Bond, who has four number one hits? I'M not talking about urban. I'm talking about number one out the park. Cyndi Lauper, Fetty Wap. Right? Four in a row, right? In your worst day, in a crackhead day. I used to tell Remy this all the time.
Jadakiss
So, I mean, I. Crackhead, they will get 5,000 a piece to perform forever. We do four, we make 20,000.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You and your worst day for four
Jadakiss
number ones in your worst. In the crackhead day will be 20,000 the show.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You got four.
Jadakiss
Four number ones.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You do four or five of them a month, that's a hundred thousand dollars. That's a principal salary of a year.
Jada
This is in the worst. In his worst.
Joe Crack the Dawn
No, this is crackhead. I could not understand for the life of me. How do you get into this trouble? Could you break that down? Us? Why did that happen? What. What put you in that position?
Fetty Wap
I mean. I mean, it's real simple, though. Like, it's simple as far as, like, how it happened and how I got to that point. Just doing too much with people. Like the saying, go. Like, I kept pouring out an empty cup, you know what I'm saying? Even though I kept filling the cup back up, it kept running empty until I could not fill a cup up no more. You know what I'm saying? At a certain point, it was like, you know what? Like, I'm doing more than I can handle by myself. Feel me? Like, I had to fire the management. I had to. I was just doing everything by myself, you know what I'm saying? Like, when it was coming to, like, the book shows, like, I remember a few times people was reaching out to me through the dm, like, yo, we've been hitting up your manager. I don't have a manager. You know what I mean? And I'm like, yeah, talk to me directly. So I got all these people calling me. I'm not knowing how to handle all this by myself. And I'm really booking every show by myself. So now I'm trying to figure out how to do it. I gotta figure out how to do, like, the W Nines and all this type of thing like that.
Fetty Wap (Rap Segment)
And I don't know nothing.
Fetty Wap
I'm like, no, it's too much for me. So it's like, the only thing I know how to do other than music was hustle. So I'm like, I still gotta feed the family. I still gotta feed the kids. And it was like, instead of me moving away from the pride and just asking for help, you know, I'm like, I'm gonna just do it by Myself, like I've been doing. So when it came down to it, you know, certain things happen. Certain people got caught up, my name got brought up. And this will happen.
Joe Crack the Dawn
It's always gonna happen in hip hop.
Jadakiss
People don't understand. Like, I try to tell them all
Joe Crack the Dawn
the time, you in a club, look, I just told you about me getting arrested. I didn't even finish that story with Remy with. I got arrested for no reason. They beat this guy up. They locked me up. I think, yo, Fat Joe robbed him this and this and that. Shit happened to me about 10 times. So they kept. They was coming up to me, I'm rich. And they were saying, yeah, robbed him for the skinniest chain never created somewhere. I'm like, yo, bro, this don't even make sense. You coming to my album release signing to lock me up, talking about I stuck a guy up for a 300 chain. All right? So the point is, used to a lifestyle, and you out there, you making a bunch of money, but you spending
Jadakiss
a bunch of money.
Joe Crack the Dawn
And it got overwhelming to the point
Jadakiss
of where you was, like, you was
Joe Crack the Dawn
used to that money. So you said, yo, let me go hustle and get that type of money right there, right? So now, the new Fetty Wap that came home, you know, you gotta adjust.
Fetty Wap
That's a fact.
Joe Crack the Dawn
So there's some times where we doing great. We're the family. I tell the wife, yo, go get the Birkin. Go get the this, go get the that. Then there's times she gotta sip through
Jadakiss
a straw, and instead of noble, you
Joe Crack the Dawn
gotta go to the diner. I've had those times in my life where I gotta adjust to say, all right, shit is slow right now. Let's start eating some diner food, tie shit, get back up. These are like the adjustments you gotta make throughout your career. Because in this career shit, it's not guaranteed, but there is something guaranteed. You have four hits. Your generational artists, there's. People grew up and started rapping, just singing and rapping because of you. There's people who looked up to you. I feel like you birthed the whole genre of music. I want you to know, yo, it ain't so bad. 20,000 a show or something like that. If you get four of them a month, five of them a month. I've been there before. You know, when I got caught with taxes, they took all my money, millions of dollars. And niggas was playing with the same guys who spam me 50,000 a show. They're like, yo, how many times you think people want to Hear? Lean back. I got 12,000. Huh? Romania, 12,000.
Jadakiss
Shit.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Bangladesh, yo, we got 12,000. Same guy been paying me 50,000 for 18 years. They play with you like that. But I had to say, all right, until I get another one, it ring off crazy.
Jadakiss
And I get back my life, and I got them all back. So when all the Way up came out.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Oh, God, I wouldn't even take they show.
Jadakiss
Yo, Joe, we want to book the show. I'm like, you, sir, cannot book the show.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Unless. Guess what, guys?
Jadakiss
I'm charging a hundred thousand.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You pay 175 to 200 on purpose. No, that's not fair, Joe. That's what it is for you.
Jadakiss
You played with me.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You was booking me for 12,000. The slums of Shaolin, you know, they played with me. I got them all back, thank to God. But you have to realize that, you know, I guess you did. How many. How many years you did?
Fetty Wap
4.
Joe Crack the Dawn
And I seen you was in real jail, wasn't it? Fake jail. Yeah, but he was in real jail. There's guys who go to fake jails.
Jadakiss
Guys like this, like, what are y' all talking about? This.
Joe Crack the Dawn
My man Boosie just pulled out a PC or something like this. Guys, fake jails.
Jada
Like, I don't mean they was. All jails is real. Whenever you go inside, the jail is on you. I don't know if a fake jail.
Jadakiss
I've seen you in real.
Jada
Tyler Perry.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Nice guys.
Jada
Jail is real, dog.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I know guys, wherever you call me from jail with the cell phone, with champagne.
Jada
Are you talking about where Jacob the Jeweler went?
Joe Crack the Dawn
There's shit like that. Martha Stewart.
Jada
I can't think.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I can't. Yes, think. I can't. You wasn't in that. You was in jail.
Fetty Wap
I was in jail.
Joe Crack the Dawn
And people don't realize how difficult it is to go in there. As a rap star. What are you feeling when you walking in them gates?
Fetty Wap
I mean, you know, I started off in Brooklyn. I was in mdc, so I was.
Joe Crack the Dawn
So you started your time there. You checked in mdc?
Fetty Wap
Nah, I ain't checking nowhere.
Joe Crack the Dawn
No, I ain't saying, like, you gave. You know what I'm saying? Oh, so they locked you up, and then you. You was there, and you was fighting your case at an end.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Oh, okay. Me, I had to get myself in, like, okay, come do your time.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, they came you.
Joe Crack the Dawn
They came and got you, so you stuck there. Yeah, right.
Jadakiss
You got a Chapo in there. You was in there when the Chapo was in there?
Fetty Wap
No, Chapo was in Chapo.
Jadakiss
Wasn't.
Fetty Wap
They had him, like, in a special thing.
Jada
Guantanamo Bay.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, I was in 43.
Jadakiss
I was in 43. 29.
Fetty Wap
Top. I was in the main. I was in Jim Pop.
Jadakiss
Yeah, that's what you supposed to be, man. All that.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You'd have made the PC list, man. Pull out the PC list, man. You'll get exposed. You know, what was that like adjusting, you know, what was that like, you know, going to jail and adjusting in the ufin you walk into the new jail. Yo, Fetty Wap, what's up? This.
Jadakiss
This.
Fetty Wap
That's like, the Fed's a little bit different, so you kind of, like. You kind of gravitate to your hood, like, so you like, you know, whatever. Whatever.
Jada
Jersey car.
Fetty Wap
Yeah. Like, most people seen, like. Oh, no, he just a regular, like, bro from the hood.
Jadakiss
Like, he one of us.
Fetty Wap
Like, you know what I mean? Like, I ain't going there on some. Like, yo, I'm. This, this me.
Jadakiss
Whoa, whoa.
Fetty Wap
I'm here. All right, who got what for sale? Let me get that.
Jada
Let me get this.
Fetty Wap
Let me get that.
Jadakiss
You got.
Fetty Wap
How much you got in your luck? Let me get that. You need something on your compensary list. I'm gonna put some. Send some money over there. Send me your cash app. Like, I just went in there moving around. Yeah, I mean, like, I just. You just. You ain't got no choice but to adapt to it. You feel me?
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fetty Wap
Either that or just go to PC.
Jada
I seen you on the heavy workout tip.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, I was doing my business.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You came home, probably, boy, you had that. Just came home. Diddy bop, huh?
Fetty Wap
I was mad little when I went in.
Jadakiss
Yeah, Yeah. I was mad little when I went in.
Unknown Rapper
But you was in there.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You know, I told him outside, I said, yo, some guys go in there, they get f. Fat.
Fetty Wap
Yeah.
Joe Crack the Dawn
How do you go to jail and get fat when everybody works out all day?
Fetty Wap
Some people ain't got that motivation.
Jada
Fat in the world.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Is this not true?
Fetty Wap
It's not true. No, not really.
Joe Crack the Dawn
It's not true. Because when you wake up in jail, the whole jail's working out. Like, there's no way to avoid it. Hey, basketball's here. Race is here. Like, bro, for you to sit there for four years just eating your face out, you know, like, you gotta be a lazy motherfucker.
Fetty Wap
I mean, but some people can't come out. They sell, though. You know, you got the head of the Muslim father. He won't allow you to do nothing in the jail, though. Like, you can't get no money. You can't move around. If you want to take your shahada, you want to come over here, sit in your cell. They can't go nowhere. So you know what I mean? Cause you really. You did this for protection. You ain't did this because you believe in Allah, you know what I'm saying? It be like that. It be a lot of them in there. So, like, it'll be them type of that can't come out. They said, we're gonna protect you.
Jadakiss
Keep reading and like that.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, you feel me? Like, they gotta do, like, the cleaning. They be cleaning, like, right down the table.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I had Hong Kong Mongolia wipe my. While I was gone. Big yo, wipe this down. I want that spotless, man.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, but they, They. I mean, but you know, they stand. They still stand on business, though. Like, as far as, like, the. The real right ones. Like, they still stand.
Fetty Wap (Rap Segment)
They.
Fetty Wap
Not just because I say that. Cause, you know, some people that's on the outside that never been to jail might have something to say about that
Jada
comment I don't understand.
Fetty Wap
You know what I'm saying? Like, jail definitely made me realize, like, you know what I'm saying? Everything I was doing, like, everything I was doing wrong about myself for the family, for the kids, you know what I mean? Like, I got a chance to sit back and reflect on everything I was doing. Like, I'm going in there thinking, like, damn, I just spent this money on.
Jadakiss
I remember, I bro this, I bro this. I bought bro this.
Fetty Wap
And I'm like. I'm like, I only did this for my daughter. I only did this for my son. Only birthdays or whenever I was with him. It was never just, I'm outside, let
Jadakiss
me just buy them.
Fetty Wap
You know what I mean? Like, no ignorant shit like that, you feel me? Like that I was doing when I was younger. And now it's like, it just made me realize, like, you know what? Like this time when you come home, you know what I mean? You owe them that time back. I mean, you owe them that time back the same way you were spurging on the guys and everybody robbing Jane Doe. Like he said, you know, all that type of shit. Like, I mean, let's. Let's take the babies, let's go. Let's go get some Chanel purses for the girls. My daughters.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Did a lot of guys disappoint you
Jadakiss
when you went and did your time and you like that? You thought they would write you a letter or something like that?
Fetty Wap
Of course they did.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I had one of my guys, one of the most Realest guys in the world. He catch a murder case. All these guys he used to think he was cool with, none of them showed up to court. None of them came around. Nobody visited him. Nobody this and this and that. By miracle of God, he beat the murder case. He came out, he's hanging out with all these dudes. I'm like, yo, my man, you're lying to yourself. But they already proved to you. God put you in a position so they could prove to you if they real family, if they real friends or not. What my man said, who was that?
Jadakiss
Was that George Bush?
Joe Crack the Dawn
Fooled me once, huh? Shame on me. Fool me twice, you know, in my life, I learned to not forgive those guys. It took me three times.
Jadakiss
I went rich, broke, rich, broke, rich.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Till I finally saved.
Jadakiss
That was four. That was four.
Joe Crack the Dawn
No, no, that was three. But it took me a long time to. You just learn from my experience. Those guys, they know good.
Jadakiss
They never gonna turn around and be good. They're never gonna be loyal.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You wasted your time.
Fetty Wap
That's a fact.
Jada
Now you get out new music. How was it in there? Was you able to think of songs? Was you able to think of shit? Cause everybody I know be like, I can't think of nothing. I didn't. My mind wasn't even on music while I was in.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, I was in the hole. I was in the shoe for six and a half months. I was in the shoe for six and a half months. And that's when everything started coming to me. Like, that's when I really had that sit back time. Like, all right, that's really around the time where. It's crazy because my first two years in, I was so, like, how I could put this, Like, I was so much on go time with the guys. I wasn't even, like, thinking about music. Like, I'm. When five o' clock come, once you hear that door unlock, tie your boots. Like, it's none of that. Like, you don't have that luxury to just like I said, unless you go to a different section of the jail. You feel me? Like, so once you start coming down the levels, like, it was like, all right, whatever. And then, like, as soon as I got to, like, a good jail, like, where I was where I could chill with the champagne and all that like that. Like, they locked me, right? But I only. I ain't even make it there 20 days.
Joe Crack the Dawn
That's when they. That's when they sent you home?
Fetty Wap
Nah, they sent me to the shoe.
Jada
I sent them back up.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, so I went to. I got to, like, a camp. I got there. Like, I was there for 20 days.
Jadakiss
They.
Fetty Wap
They tried to say I escaped the camp for me. So I beat it, though. So, Yeah, I beat it funny. No, but they still set me in there.
Jadakiss
Like, all right, look, you got.
Fetty Wap
You got too much influence. You got too, like, you know what I mean? Like, I hate that.
Jadakiss
Yeah.
Fetty Wap
And that's how they. That's how they get us.
Jadakiss
Like, that's how. Especially, like, I was like, us. That's how they get us. Like, influence. He could do this. Whatever.
Joe Crack the Dawn
They hating on you and they setting examples on you.
Fetty Wap
Yeah.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Just because of who your name is and it ain't you as a person,
Jadakiss
they don't necessarily mean that you're like that. But they.
Joe Crack the Dawn
They play that game with everybody. Like, Remy, she was in parole, right? On TV with a family, number one song in America. This. They would not let her go do a show. And these bum ass parole officers just like, nah, no, this. And she's on. Like, you see, she's trying to change her life. She's trying to be a boss. She's trying to.
Jadakiss
This.
Joe Crack the Dawn
She's on a TV show. This. That. They fronted on her for, like, I think. What was it? She had like, three years of parole. I went with her when they had an ankle bracelet on her three years later. Like, you know, it was incredible, bro, but they were just abusing the power. So you came home. Is it a new style, Fetty Wap, or is it the classical Fetty Wap?
Jada
You finished talking about jail? Cause I'm gonna start asking about the album.
Jadakiss
Okay?
Jada
You just want to know about the rapsy.
Joe Crack the Dawn
That 1800 Jada kiss.
Jada
He talking about the news to eat his own bottle.
Joe Crack the Dawn
1800.
Jada
How you pronounce it? Xavier.
Fetty Wap
Xavier.
Jada
Xavier.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Xavier.
Fetty Wap
No, Xavier. Like Xavier, but just take the X out and put his
Joe Crack the Dawn
petty bump.
Jadakiss
What was that
Joe Crack the Dawn
how you come up with that name?
Fetty Wap
Xavier.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah, Xavier.
Fetty Wap
So that's like. That's like my alter ego. So, like, when I started doing music before, like, I. I used to do this thing, like, Zubi, like, a lot of my oldest songs. Like, and it really came from, like, Gucci used to be on, like, Gucci Man Lafleur. So I'm like, I can't say Fetty Wap Lafleur. Like, I was like. I used to be like, Zoover. Like, everybody called me Zoo. I mean, so it's like, just put it together. So it's like, at one point I was changing my name anyway, so that was my name. Zavir.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I get it.
Fetty Wap
See what I'm saying that's fine.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I get it. But sound right?
Fetty Wap
Yeah.
Jadakiss
I'm curious.
Joe Crack the Dawn
What, are you doing some new type shit or you doing Fetty? Why?
Fetty Wap
It's a little mixture of both, you know, it's just a more mature version of me, that's all. Like a more mature version. Like, I'm still me. Just. Just, you know, I got a few. I got a few different bops in there. You know what I'm saying?
Jadakiss
Like, let me tell you something. I tell you in your face, man. I always been a fan of you. I've always thought you was a great person. I know you gonna come with a hit record. And if you don't, you talking to a guy been around 30 something years. You got four number ones, you get
Joe Crack the Dawn
yourself a book, you get. All right.
Jadakiss
I'm just telling you the truth. What I'm saying is facts.
Fetty Wap
No, I respect that, though.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You know what I'm saying?
Jadakiss
You get your money.
Joe Crack the Dawn
How it come? Either you gonna make a ton of money, you know, we all looking for the hit record to make a ton of money. Or we take that slow.
Jadakiss
Good money, which is better than a lot.
Joe Crack the Dawn
99% of Americas.
Fetty Wap
No, I gotta. I got a good team behind me now. Like, I got a great scene behind me.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah, I see you got about 76 people with you over here. You even got white people in the entourage.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, I'm doing, like, a documentary.
Jadakiss
Oh, yeah, I'm doing a documentary. Tell me, so what's the documentary called?
Joe Crack the Dawn
Where's it coming out? I don't know yet.
Jada
It's getting that footage.
Fetty Wap
So it's just like. No, I'm just taking this crowd. I'm taking my craft serious this time. I mean, like, I already. I did what I did outside of it. I mean, nobody can't take that from me. I did my time. I stood on my tent. Nobody can't take that from me. So it's like, all right, now do something for Fetty. Like, I mean, like, the same way I was confident and going to grab the. I mean, and hitting the kitchen and going outside had that confidence level. Like this. What I do, like now, I mean, like, I know I can make this. I got that same confidence with the music, man. You feel me? So that's how I'm on it.
Jadakiss
I don't know how crazy that was. I don't think you even understand how crazy that was.
Fetty Wap
Nah, I didn't.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm not, yo.
Fetty Wap
Cause I don't look at myself how everybody else look at me. Feel me? That's always been my problem. Like me as a person. Like, I remember one time we had Kane bro had invited me to his hood. We came out there to Yonkers like and like everybody looking at me crazy. Cause I went to the Chinese store.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Like I've been there like four chicken wing fresh.
Fetty Wap
You feel me? But it's just like, you know, certain people got this, got this aspect of how they view me because they hear the songs but they don't know where I'm from.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Oh, my God. I literally forgot about that until just now.
Fetty Wap
Sorry. I don't want to. I don't want to blame alcohol, that
Joe Crack the Dawn
I got to blame that one on the alcohol.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
But I'm glad you back and. And you got a good team. Let me tell you something. I've invested millions in artists, me. So I've been in the other guys. And when the artist tells me y'
Jadakiss
all don't want to be here, I say, not a problem. You sure you don't want to be with us? Not a problem.
Joe Crack the Dawn
All right, here you go. I've had a. Several artists I spent millions of dollars on that turned around was like, yo, I don't think this working out. You sure you don't think this work? All right, it ain't working out. I'm gonna go do whatever. Oh, damn.
Jadakiss
I don't think none of them ever
Joe Crack the Dawn
popped off when they left. But the point is, I never believed in holding people against their will or because I signed a talented person. Hey, you gotta take some credit because
Jadakiss
you signed it, right?
Joe Crack the Dawn
But, you know, it's crazy. I. I see it all the time. I see it with. I see men, Men handling female artists that they signed up to. Yo, I don't care. Yo, I signed it. It's like, yo, all right, you gave her.
Jadakiss
You know, you gave her a shot. She blew up. You made millions.
Joe Crack the Dawn
She don't want to be here. Let's move on, work out some shit
Jadakiss
and keep it pushing.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's something that's been
Jadakiss
the ugly in the. In the hip hop game.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Somebody feel like they signed you, man, it'll be a guy who signed you. Never seen you again.
Fetty Wap
That's a fact.
Joe Crack the Dawn
And then you blow. And they like, yo, that's it happened. Somebody wrote a hit hook for me, right?
Jadakiss
Hit hook. I thought I was like, damn, this thing about to be rich, right?
Joe Crack the Dawn
Cause I'm giving up the right publishing
Jadakiss
to him and everything. Yo, you wrote. Don't worry. This, this, this.
Joe Crack the Dawn
So about a honey.
Jadakiss
Guys came up to me like, yo,
Joe Crack the Dawn
you know, I own the guy. You know, I own the guy. You know, I gave him ten grand while he was drunk in the gambling spot. I own him. I. This, this, this. I'm like, yo, he got nothing.
Fetty Wap
That's crazy.
Joe Crack the Dawn
He's supposed to make millions of dollars. I swear to you. They kept coming up to me. Like I said, yo, I worked with him.
Jada
I know. He told me. I happened to notice when I had
Joe Crack the Dawn
to say, I'm giving him the publishing.
Jada
I don't have to say, yo, you looking. I know,
Unknown Guest
I know.
Jada
And I'm not telling you.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Yo, listen, but it's the craziest I ever seen about now. I'm happy for the guy because guy works hard. He's a great guy. I'm like, all right, this guy gonna be caked up. He came out the woodworks, yo, I own him, yo. I octopus hands. Octopuses. And I'm like, you know, and so what's so important is for artists out
Jadakiss
there to not be in the position that most people be in is you
Jada
be going, what it is that you not saying is we all, us three up here, whoever's back there, that's artists, you gotta learn. We don't. We didn't come in and shit. Learning. So the faster we know we getting done wrong, the faster you can get out of that situation. But it's to learn from there and then to educate those that's coming up. Because it's going to keep happening as long as you don't have the knowledge. They looking for talented.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Most important you need to do is get a lawyer.
Jada
Stupid even. Sometimes the lawyers down with the label. Then you get caught in the triple cross. So you gotta. You gotta learn as much as you can. Pray and surround yourself with some good people, because they're gonna keep doing it. That's the up part. It's never gonna stop.
Fetty Wap
That's their job. Yeah.
Jada
And then that's fucked up.
Jadakiss
You know what I mean, man? I had a lawyer I really trust.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I was with him for about 10, 15 years. He introduced me to the guy who
Jadakiss
lined me up for the.
Joe Crack the Dawn
For the tax case.
Jadakiss
I never trusted him again. I got rid of him. I said, yo, this guy lined Me up. I don't know if he got caught up in some shit and lined me
Joe Crack the Dawn
up with the accountant who I never seen again in my life, who didn't pay my bills, robbed me and I went to the feds because of him, man. So I gotta agree with Kiss when he says sometimes you can't even trust your own lawyer. You know, some of these guys be connected. It's the craziest shit. Trust is a hard thing in life. It's crazy because I still trust me. I'm dumb enough to trust.
Fetty Wap
I can't do that. I don't got it in me to do that.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I caught two accountants robbing me for millions of dollars. After I caught the Fed case, I caught another accountant that we treated like family stealing like $3 million from me. Like. Like this shit is legendary. Like this shit.
Jada
What's the. How many accountants get killed a year?
Joe Crack the Dawn
How about they don't even go to jail, bro? That's why you can't even sue them. You can't even ish in a couple counting funerals. Let it calm down in a Calm down.
Jada
A couple counts gotta get That's a Kiss ass.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah, Kiss is crazy, but I ain't lying. It's like a loophole with these accountants, how they get away with this shit. You know what I'm saying? But you got a team. You on the go. We got some new music.
Jadakiss
Oh, yeah, let's hear that shit.
Jada
Single White Roses or this Something Else.
Fetty Wap
This Something Else right here.
Jada
No doubt. We get a special Joe and Jada. You know what I mean? That's out of here.
Jadakiss
You already know.
Jada
We get something special.
Fetty Wap
Let's hear it.
Jada
Fetty Bob, you might want to make this the next single, whatever you play on here, because it's going to get duct taped to a rocket ship. It's out of here.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Just that.
Jadakiss
Viral mania.
Fetty Wap (Rap Segment)
Okay, it's time for me to go up I won't let him play me if I pop out would he show up? I don't think he crazy See I bought a knife and relapse I might cook up a baby he was pushing bags up but now he push up daisies I remember I was counting up a million my Mercedes I remember having dreams about a million a Mercedes I remember I was waiting for a plug like a blessing I remember them Corner days on 12th and 22nd I remember LBN beans, fatty cash in the trap I remember it was Perry on that gave me my first strap I remember me and Queen Hard Drink when Slick P got sad I remember singing Chill, bro, big bro about to come back I remember them dark days when didn't even notice me I remember when I popped out new whip everybody noticed me I remember funny faces when they found out what I was singing I remember feeling like Ace that day he walked out the cleaners I remember being young as hell feeling so insecure I remember I was looking in the mirror then I started seeing more I remember Montana, bugs, dice and fatty cash for the summer I remember the day I fell in love it was with King I remember choosing loyalty over royalty I can prove it I remember I ain't never made none of my look foolish I remember I ain't never letting none of my feel useless I remember that it's only me was the only one looking stupid I remember that first million dollar check had it in my that the one I gave it to we probably never speak again and I remember about a defamation case I ain't never even know about I remember if you love me how you say why you ain't throw it out I remember feeling x'd out getting left out by the rich I remember feeling drained out I ain't have nothing left I remember grabbing 30 bricks and I put that on my set I remember feeling better now that I got it on my chest Decade
Unknown Rapper
in you know my name no limit ain't change I was playing with them G's way before my fame Load up cocking and bang I stayed solid was locked in with gang I bought a brick for I bought me a chain there's so many hits how the I'm still saying let's take a trip down memory lane I remember G phase o D land my bed I couldn't stop crying Remember my mama ain't let me outside but I snuck right back out on the nine remember 14 bought my first iron old ass 38 ain't even shy ain't give a though cause it was waiting on the get out of line Remember my first time going to slide yeah I was scared but I hear the trap when I let off I closed my eyes open them shot out four more times and I remember to ride back flaming the weed up try and relax when I got rich start bad straps now I can't remember how many I yeah all I rap is facts I remember pouring up place to act flying in the track me, Molly and Max remember one something like 15 hats remember we bought that lack brosk head to wrap that bitch all black Cause we was sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding and spot something how about the back Remember I Was having a guilt trip like why I gotta solve everybody problems? I still ain't healed shit act like I ain't grow up Po Rest running all in my building White folks gave the whole hood hope Remember them niggas almost killed streets up that's how it is Looked up the gangster since a kid Remember G Gill first took his beard Remember our only guns to see Took it on drills to them I remember bagging up pounds of meat Remember I ran up my first m. Remember I was up like three years ago. Now look at me, I'm him. Remember I was up like 2 years ago by the R truck I'm tr she happy fast running 20 cash I'm
Joe Crack the Dawn
trying to do it again now it's
Unknown Rapper
fast Now I show my ass you don't know my past I made something out of nothing no, I was on my last oh,
Joe Crack the Dawn
I remember Fetty Watt. That sound like Fetty Watt to me. It's that voice we know on that radio.
Jada
I was about to say that was crazy.
Fetty Wap
That's like the outro.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Sound like Fetty Wap to me. You know that voice?
Fetty Wap (Rap Segment)
All right. Can you tell me what is new?
Unknown Guest
Baby I've been gone for a while But I came right back for you hey and baby I'm outside with you. Oh do you feel this li too hey cuz I've been really been missing my baby I've been feeling your body is crazy I really been needing my baby Let me serving it baby wavy really been needing my baby I've been feeling your body is crazy hey really
Fetty Wap (Rap Segment)
been needing my baby Let me surfing
Unknown Guest
it baby your way through Uhhuh Only one I want is you Only want to only want to run into There will be no other one but you Only one I want is you Only one I want baby Only one I'm run into hey we no one the one but you hey cuz I've been wondering girl can you tell me what is new? Baby I've been going for a while But I came right back for you hey hey and baby I'm outside with you and I'm drunk right now I don't see no one but you hey and you're so sexy baby oh always that one L. Keep it real baby.
Joe Crack the Dawn
This appreciate that. This the. That's a vibe right now.
Jada
Coming out Friday, March 27th March 27th all platforms. Zavi. Yeah, we gotta help them go back to the moon. I mean, help them put. Help them put that 100 million back in the bank account.
Joe Crack the Dawn
How you doing that Fetty bot Man,
Jadakiss
I believe in you, man. I know you got some more hits in there.
Fetty Wap
Yeah, for sure.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You know you got them voices, right? Kids grew up listening to your voice on the radio all day, every 10 seconds. So if you put one out, it's going. He said, I always say that about Nelly. I say about 50 cent. There's certain big artists. And believe it or not, Fetty, you on that level, is what I'm trying to tell you. When you ask for number one, I don't know if they broke down to you for number one with Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake and all that. You got the number ones on that. These guys be fronting like they got a hot record. They got. This is just, you know, wpgi.
Fetty Wap
I get what you're saying.
Jadakiss
They.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Your is monstrous, right?
Jada
Disrespect the WPGIs.
Joe Crack the Dawn
We don't even know who the is. WPG case, Yo.
Jada
Sound like dc. That ain't no.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm not dissing DC of them call letters. Listen, guys, I don't mean nothing. I don't mean none of that.
Jada
What I'm saying is I'm disapologizing before they cancel. Listen, because you didn't know Cincinnati radio
Joe Crack the Dawn
station WKRP in Cincinnati. My point is, I no offense to anybody, you know what I'm saying?
Jada
So I want to do is keep it clean.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah, your man, you know, they know your voice. You play prime time.
Jada
He's back, man.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Safe to say that last song was incredible. Stay focused and put it out. You gonna get it.
Jadakiss
You gonna get it. I promise.
Jada
Back 200 mil back.
Fetty Wap
Going for it.
Jada
200 mil back in the account. Then we gonna get you back on the couch and you gonna take us shopping.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Oh, no. He said he tired of that shit. He ain't taking motherfucking Robin jeans. He ain't buy no robber jeans no more.
Jada
He gonna come. We helped him get the 200 mil. I think you're gonna about to go back to the Billboards again. To the. I mean,
Fetty Wap
I appreciate that.
Jada
Don't forget about me. My dog's over there, man. Remember, I said it here first.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Now, he definitely gonna step to you when you got that 200 like y' all Kiss put you again. Kiss put you on. But yeah. Any plans for touring with this album?
Fetty Wap
I mean, right now, you know, I'm still on.
Joe Crack the Dawn
So you on that Remy Ma where they don't want to let you go.
Jada
But once they see. Once they. Once the.
Joe Crack the Dawn
They got Instagram, like. They know you with the label.
Jada
They know you the bracelet's coming off right back to them.
Joe Crack the Dawn
How much time you got on papers?
Fetty Wap
Five. Five years?
Joe Crack the Dawn
Five more.
Jada
Yeah, Supervised. You know what it is.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Once he.
Jada
Once they see how he moving, they gonna let him move and he gonna get.
Jadakiss
I don't get. I don't really drink. Even though Sorisa Rum is the best rum in the planet Earth, 1500 is the best tequila, right?
Joe Crack the Dawn
They came to my house, piss test me three days in a row, just they want.
Jada
He is legal now. So they switched the rules of parole.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah, yeah.
Fetty Wap
That's only in the state.
Jadakiss
Hell, no.
Jada
Only in the state. In the state. But it's gonna get.
Joe Crack the Dawn
They was letting sniff heroin on that and letting them cut off. Man, hell yeah. Big getting high.
Jada
You better not have.
Joe Crack the Dawn
They give him a chance.
Jada
Your relationship with parole right now, you better never need parole.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Tell you something. I'm never gonna need parole.
Jada
Don't ever say never.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm never gonna need parole.
Jada
Never say never.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Never gonna need parole. You know why I don't get high? I don't got nothing to do with it. I got everything to do with Ernie Madoff.
Jada
Ain't get high.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Three piss tests, clean. The guy tells me. This guy was just randomly popping up in my house and walking through my house.
Jadakiss
By the way, I don't know if
Joe Crack the Dawn
you know, your house is not your house. They just violate you. Walking in my shit like, you know, oh, nice painting.
Jada
This nigga was on parole. I had a day party in Long Island City. They called him. They heard this shit blasted. He had the Dukes at the house,
Joe Crack the Dawn
he had to run home.
Jada
They called him and told him, yo, bring all your shit to the halfway house. You gotta come. Come in.
Joe Crack the Dawn
My point is, don't disparate. I sit down, I sit down. She looked like a nice lady, and I'm pretty. Like, I'm a great negotiator on all levels.
Jadakiss
I'm up in there, say, hey, miss, how you doing? You know, it's been like six months.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Realize I don't get high.
Jadakiss
I don't drink, paying my bills and paying my. This, this, that.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I might be your best client. I'm telling you, like, you know, I'm like, absolutely not a. I'm not crossing in green. I'm not driving without. Like, I'm the best guy. You got nothing.
Jadakiss
Man, this woman fuck with me so much, man.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Oh, man, I just didn't understand that. I remember it was the last day,
Jadakiss
I'm in Germany, and I called the woman and I'm like, yeah, miss, you know, the show's Going right. She told me, cardigan, you know, I could extend your parole.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I said, for what? I've been the nicest guy in the world. I don't do nothing wrong. I don't this and this and that. She told me that shit on that last day, which wasn't true. Once you gone, you gone.
Jadakiss
But these people just fuck with me, man. I'm sorry. You still on parole?
Joe Crack the Dawn
He does anything I said has nothing
Jadakiss
to do with Fetty Wap.
Jada
He tried to help. He tried to get him off.
Joe Crack the Dawn
The other I say is Jadakiss is right by my side. My business partner, he agrees with.
Jada
I want to get him off parole. 200 mil back in the account and everything is love.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I like. We got that Patterson. New Jersey been back? Of course.
Jada
What kind of question is that?
Jadakiss
Of course?
Joe Crack the Dawn
Maybe he's on parole in New York. They don't let him hang out in Jersey.
Jada
Back to the hood. They going back.
Joe Crack the Dawn
You're a Jersey parole? Yeah, man, I just. Yo, Jersey. N, n, N crazy. You know, I live in Jersey. You know, I love New Jersey.
Jadakiss
I love New Jersey.
Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm just saying. Damn the gods, huh? This ain't that.
Jada
That ain't this cracky crack. Make some noise for Fetty.
Joe Crack the Dawn
Y' all like that second track, man, That's a bar.
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Episode Date: March 31, 2026
Guests: Fetty Wap, Joe Crack the Dawn, Jadakiss, Jada
This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, via the Joe and Jada takeover, is a raw, candid, and inspirational conversation with Fetty Wap. The show chronicles Fetty’s journey through success, incarceration, and redemption as he discusses his new album "Zavier," reflecting on both personal and professional growth, hard-won industry lessons, and the realities of life post-incarceration. Joe, Jada, and Jadakiss provide personal anecdotes from their own careers, making this episode a meaningful exploration of the music industry, loyalty, and personal resilience.
Struggles Leading to Incarceration:
"Like the saying go, I kept pouring out an empty cup… at a certain point, it was like, you know what, I'm doing more than I can handle by myself." – Fetty Wap ([06:47])
Adjustment to Life Behind Bars:
"I was in the main… I was in Jim Pop." – Fetty Wap ([13:13])
Reflection and Growth:
"Jail definitely made me realize… you owe them that time back the same way you was splurging on the guys." – Fetty Wap ([16:35])
Betrayal and Loyalty:
Writing in the Hole:
"I was in the shoe for six and a half months. That's when everything started coming to me… that's when I really had that sit back time." – Fetty Wap ([18:32])
The ‘Zavier’ Alter Ego:
"That's like my alter ego. At one point I was changing my name anyway, so that was my name, Zavier." – Fetty Wap ([21:36])
New Sound, Same Heart:
Exploitation and Bad Deals:
"Most important you need to do is get a lawyer… Sometimes the lawyers down with the label. Then you get caught in the triple cross." – Jada ([33:34])
Hard Lessons:
Music Exclusives:
"I remember pouring out a million my Mercedes… grabbing thirty bricks and I put that on my set… now that I got it off my chest." – Fetty Wap ([36:21]–[38:15])
Release Date:
"I'm just taking my craft serious this time… do something for Fetty." – Fetty Wap ([23:43])
This episode stands out for its genuine, unfiltered look at the ups and downs of hip hop stardom. Fetty Wap’s transparency about failure, betrayal, and redemption provides real inspiration for listeners navigating their own obstacles, while the hosts’ warmth and candor create a space for reflection and celebration. The debut of new music from the "Zavier" album, paired with lessons on business, loyalty, and self-care, makes this a must-listen episode for fans and artists alike.
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