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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Joe and Jada - Jeff Hamilton breaks down Kobe's ICONIC jacket photo & drops gems on fashion world
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Mandy B
Over the last couple years, didn't we learn that the folding chair was invented by black people because of what happened in Alabama? Montgomery Brawl this Black History Month, the podcast Selective Ignorance with Mandy B Unpacks black history and culture with comedy, clarity and conversations that shake the status quo. The Crown act in New York was signed in July of 2019, and that is a bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with race. To hear this and more, listen to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or where you get your podcast.
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Jeff Hamilton
I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Hi, Bowen. Hi, Matt.
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Jeff Hamilton
Hey, Elmo. Hey, Matt. Hey, Bowen. Hi, Cookie.
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Hans Charles
Hi.
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Jeff Hamilton
Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys, Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move.
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Hans Charles
These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Our men.
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Hans Charles
Listen to the A building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ben Higgins
You can scroll the headlines all day and still feel empty. I'm Ben Higgins, and if youf Can Hear Me is where culture meets the soul. Honest conversations about identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Celebrities, thinkers, everyday people. Some have answers. Most are still figuring it out. And if you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if youf Can Hear on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jeff Hamilton
That moment was frozen in my mind forever. And of course, everybody showed up and that just became the most iconic picture of fashion, sports history. Yeah.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Yo, what up, y'? All? This your boy Joe Crack the Dawn?
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Jeff Hamilton
No, it is your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show, man. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we stick to our word, you know what I mean? No matter what it is. Music, fashion, sports, lifestyle. Think of our guest today. You think of that fly shit. You know what I mean? Think of the early 90s, late 80s. I think of Mark 1:25. I think of Genesis. I think of searching all around the city looking.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You know what I mean?
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Jeff Hamilton
Sometimes I would find it. Sometimes I would come up short. When you just think of fly, you think of the NBA, and you think.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Of all major league sports, and you think of winners because you see his.
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Jeff Hamilton
Logos and his leathers Whenever there's winning involved. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guest, Jeff Hamilton. Great to be here. Welcome to the couch, my friend. Thank you for having me. Honor to be with two legends like you guys.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
What is that?
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Jeff Hamilton
What kind of leather is that? This is my corporate look. This is my crocodile jacket look. My black leather crocodile jacket.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
So this is the most elite level of leather. It's a crocodile leather, right? Correct. You can't go bigger than that.
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Jeff Hamilton
That's the most expensive. Yeah, that's kind of like. You don't have to even put designs on it, though. I actually did a jacket for. For pharrell that had all crocodile and designs on it. Virginia beach one that was a different level.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
What? You know, as I'm looking to you.
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Jeff Hamilton
Right.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Good friend, I'm thinking of Kobe Bryant. Right? That Kobe Bryant jacket that he wore when he won the chip, how did you get that to him, and how did that even happen?
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Jeff Hamilton
It was a fierce process. You know, the whole thing started with Michael. So in Michael Jordan in 91, when he won the first championship, I said, you know, I really want to make him a championship jacket. This way, when he wins it, you know, everybody has a t shirt and a hat, but nobody thought about the jacket. So I said, let me just have the jacket. Because on the jacket, you really could tell the whole story. And also, you get kind of the idea of getting the trophy or the ring without having to wait five months to get the ring. So you get kind of a moment of instant gratification when you win and you get the jacket. And so it happened slowly with Michael. And Michael expected every year when he jammed, as soon as he pulled up to.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
To. To.
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Jeff Hamilton
To the. To the locker room, I was right there with the. The jacket and put it on.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
And.
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Jeff Hamilton
And it just went viral in Chicago in the 90s. That's all people wanted. They wanted one my championship jackets. And Kobe, being such a student of the game and such a student of. Of of Michael just took it to a different level. So in 2000, when he won the. The first championship with the Lakers, his first. He had it. We had the moments, the locker room. But the second year in Philly, it became so iconic because. And Jada, as you did the pose when you did the verses, I mean, that pose became iconic. There was a moment in time that was frozen. Him being a kid from Philly and loving the Sixers, growing up with his dad playing for the Sixers and being booed the whole night and still winning and also knowing that his parents were not in the sense looking at him winning, which is the biggest moment of his life, a back to back championship. And so he had that meditative moment and so he wanted to isolate himself. And he took the trophy and went to the shower, locked himself out, and nobody knew where he was. So I knew better to follow the great Andy Bernstein, the Hall of Famer photographer, because he. He had all his team looking for the trophy. And we walked into the room and there was only three people, just all three. And he was there like dreaming. And that moment was frozen in my mind forever. And of course everybody showed up and that just became the most iconic picture of fashion, sports history.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
I think everybody's trying to emulate that picture. And I think they had rappers make the album cover like that. Who did that?
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Jeff Hamilton
Yeah.
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Wow.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Like did the COVID of the.
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Jeff Hamilton
Of the Patrick Mahomes, Lil Messi, Caitlin Clark. LeBron did it with the 2020 championship. So it's been. And I've been also pushing it in a way. I mean, you did it with the verses, so Jada. So the idea is that it's a symbol also of winning, but also reflecting and embracing the moment and taking a pause and not being in the champagne and the whole thing. You can do that after. But that moment was you isolate all the hard work that you put in for a year and the hard labor to get to win the championship and then just take a little few seconds to enjoy it.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
So you was in retail in New York, right? Did you always just have your jackets or you decided, I'm gonna make my own? The Jeff Hamilton.
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Jeff Hamilton
I When I moved to America in 1980, I moved a wife and two kids. I married when I was 19. I was 24. I just turned 70. And I came with $6,000. And my dream was to become an accountant. And I love numbers. And I was. I mean, I was a smart kid because I was a nerd. So I was a good student. And. And one thing. But I also was a hustler. I wanted to make money. I really was chasing money. I care about wanting to come as an immigrant and try to. I came with no papers, illegal. Try to. To find my way. I stumbled upon some people that were starting a new brand. And. And I said I didn't have any experience of designing, never designed a thing in my life. Didn't know about pattern, didn't know about management of a business. And. And I got the rights to do the menswear for a new brand that just came out in the market, and that was Guess Jeans. So I founded. I was the first licensee of Guess Jeans for men. I founded the first. The company that was doing it and with. At the time, with 20 grand that I started in 1983, took the company to $75 million in two years. But I was a kid. I was in my 20s. I mean, I was just. I didn't even know how to handle it. I barely spoke English. I mean, thank God I spoke Spanish because I was my first language being born in Morocco and French. And I managed my way through to doing it. And I really just really was not a plan of me to do it. Like, I'm doing it constantly right now to stay in the culture and do things because I'm passionate about it. And really not chasing the money at the time was all about I need to just make a difference. And every. All the haters, including family members, you know, that saw me leaving France with the kids and with my babies at the time. And, you know, my son is 48. You know, it's not like kids and, and, and. And going out and. And succeeding was like a sweet kind of moment for me to just to do it.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You know, I see you work hard. Like I work hard, right? And I admire other people that work hard. And now, you know, you up there in age. But one day I see you in la. One day I see you Miami. One day I see you in France. One day I see you this. And I'm like, man, this guy. You really are the true definition of a hustler. And working hard, what motivates you now to work that hard?
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Jeff Hamilton
I often say the main reason why I am where I am right now is because of the failures. You know, the dark times were the best time in my life. When I suffered not long ago. I mean, when I lost everything a few years back after all those things and the marriages and divorces and, you know, the partners screwing up and. And you reflect on those moments and you understand that all we can do is do the best thing that we can do every day. Wake up. We have the willpower that God gave us for us to work as hard as we want. To do. Never take anything for granted. Being respectful to people, being as good as you can. And also, we are lucky, I mean, we are blessed to know that we wake up every morning doing the things that we are getting paid to do what we love. I mean, if Michael Jordan was not worth a few billion dollars and he was not Michael Jordan, he'll be in his backyard shooting hooks, shooting baskets, because that's what we do. I'm shooting basket every day myself and I'm happy every morning that I do. And I don't care if it's a one jacket when we make $few hundred or it's going to be a thousand jackets. I work and I dress everything with the same way. I don't care if I'm dealing with a big celebrity or I'm dealing with a busboy. I treat everybody the same and with respect and, and, and integrity.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Do you get more respect now than when you was doing it earlier?
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Jeff Hamilton
Much more. Yeah. I, I, I, I took it for granted. I mean, that's why pretty much also I lost everything is because I took it for granted. I thought I was the man. I mean, I thought I, you know, I'm, I'm in my 20s, I'm making six, $7 million a year. You know, I'm doing $7 million $5 million in sales. And, and I'm, I'm like, like with Billy Idol and I'm with Guns N Roses and I'm here with Andrew Dice Clay and I'm here with the, you know, you know, James Khan and, and I, I think I'm, I'm believing my own. Then at that point, you know, then somebody like God comes in and taps you on the shoulder and say, wake up. You know, you're nothing. You're just simply a, a channel of the energy that I'm giving you. So follow the rules. And, and you know, and when you're young, you don't know, you, you don't have the experience. And, and we made mistakes and, but learning from your mistakes are the good signs. And you start appreciating that.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Let your darkest moments bring you most clarity. You'll learn who, who's really your friends.
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Jeff Hamilton
Absolutely.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Who really got your back, who. And like you said, you know, God gives you these lessons and you gotta, you gotta absorb it and you gotta say, oh, I gotta change this or that or step my game up.
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Jeff Hamilton
And not everybody does it. You know, you get, you, you get the fall and you get up and people don't learn the lesson. And many times I fell and got up And I made the same mistakes and fell back again. But there's a moment there was a shift when I was 64 years old to make a comeback actually when you and I met Wally's in LA, you know, and I reached out to you like on Instagram, said I want to meet you, I want to see you. And there was a shift there that I felt like it was. I'm changing it. I'm learning from my mistakes and I want to be better. I want to be. And I understand that there was. Up to that point, I never saw myself having a place in the culture which I respected from day one. I stayed consistent from day one and I stayed in one lane. I never went for the big money and the big sellouts of different things. And even when I did nascar, which was anti culture in a way, like because it was such not. You wouldn't think that the kids in the street would wear a NASCAR stuff. I brought it to the street streets and where it became. Everybody was wearing the M and Ms. And the Tides and the the. And the Dylan hard stuff. And people had no idea that Dylan Hart was bigger than Michael Jordan at the time. You know, as far as, as far as a certain segment of, of the population. And it just. And that realization for me to understand when I start coming in, in, in like six, five, six years ago and going to. Like they, they in Brooklyn at Berkeley center and. And young kids, 17 years old that you know, that were not even born when, when Kobe had that moment and. And I say what's up legend? Such an honor to meet you. Me for what? I mean I. I only did it for the money at the time. And I started appreciating more that and it was not legal stuff. And when people come and ask me for a picture, they think I make them happy. They don't understand that they're making me happy. They, they, they. Of all the hard work and passion that put behind it. They gimme the seal of the stand of approval, seal of approval for all of what we do.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
That's how I feel when I see Jeff Hamilton. I feel like Jeff Hamilton did. You know what I'm saying? That's just me. You know what I'm saying? His jackets was like a rolly.
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Jeff Hamilton
It's like you made it when you got a Jeff Hamilton.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Oh yeah. You feel like. Cause you said trophy. Cause you said Genesis and this. You had to have money to walk in Genesis and buy real leather. Like they was levels. You had Jew man, you had Delancey and then you get the genesis. Then you get to another level. Who are some of the designers that you seen come up? And you had no clue they were going to get big like that? And you was like, wow.
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Jeff Hamilton
I mean, the easiest one is this is the first belt that Krumhart ever made. First one ever. That's the first, like, top. Top five. I mean, probably this is like. I mean, I've been offered stupid money for that, you know, Richard, you know, when I had Guess jeans, I mean, he was a salesman that was selling me leather. So because I came at the time in the 80s, when I came, I wanted to make the denim, so I wanted to do something different. So I made the denim jeans with the leather parts of. Part of it. I did the jackets with the leather on it, which nobody had done. So I was buying crazy, crazy quantities of leather. And then he was a republic, and he was. And I loved him because he was, like, riding on his Harley and coming to the office with the long hair. My hair was long. We were all rock and rollers. And I'd rather give him the business than giving the business to the guys from back east, the white dudes that were all square with a suit and tie. And it was just like. I felt it. Just, mind you, I'm like 25 years old, and I'm running out 400 employees working, and I'm learning every day on the business because I, Like, I said I didn't know how to design. I became a designer by necessity because I didn't like the way the. The people were doing it. So I went to my closet, I start pulling stuff out and. And try styling myself. And I said, I don't want to do that. I like that pocket. I'm gonna do that pocket on that jean. And. And I start creating stuff. And then. Then, of course, organically, it became more an urban brand for me. You know, I never. Even though the guests wanted to be more department stores, Saks, Bloomingdale's, you know, Neiman Marcus, myself, I started selling stuff in Detroit in. In the malls where, like, there was all the. All the guys with the fur coats and the jewelry way before Detroit.
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Hans Charles
Players.
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Jeff Hamilton
Yeah, real players. I mean, and then. Then we just start getting that. And. And. And it just became viral. And we had no Instagram, we had no. No advertising. Everything just came from word. Word of mouth. And because we're the first one to do, like, fashion crazy, the sizes and stuff like that, so. So chrome art is probably the biggest one that. That I saw around. And then. And they were well deserved. Because I mean it's beautiful what they've done and, and the hype that they've done. I mean but, but it was like guys like True Religion, they were, they were for me, I mean the seven genes that work for me, citizens of humanity, they work for me. I've worked with the guys from J Brand, I mean all, all those guys at one point in time, they all have, I've touched all those guys, you know, like, like even, even the gallery department. I mean he was my sales rep when I was buying, you know, Ralph Lauren, who's my favorite designer by the way, still is. My favorite designer is Ralph Lauren and for me it's like the goat of goats when it comes to fashion. I'd like to think that I had my imprinted a bit all along the way. With a lot of designers there's always a point of reference that I have. I mean this is a 45 year career that I've had and still working 15 hours a day, seven days a week. And, and, and I, I, I'll go out, I mean, I mean on Instagram it looks like I'm having fun, which I am, I'm having fun, I'm having fun working. But you know, there's a grinding, there's a grind behind everything. There is like I, I, Monday morning I'll be at 8 o' clock in on my computer, I close my door, I won't leave my office till 6pm and I'll do everything from still accounting, still production, still, still paintball, still, you know, negotiating deals, you know, licensing deals, selling.
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Jeff Hamilton
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Ben Higgins
This month, iHeartRadio is celebrating the stars of the 2026 Winter Games. Gaylord, Michigan's Winter Vanecki was born to compete in the cold. A powerhouse in aerial skiing, she launches herself 40ft into the air, performing triple backflips with pinpoint precision. Known for her high degree of difficulty and perfect landings, she enters Milano Cortina as a top contender for the podium. Vanecki combines aerobatic grace with daredevil courage, looking to stick to the landing of a lifetime and secure Olympic glory for Team USA. For more Winter Games gold, search Olympics on the iHeartRadio app.
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Hans Charles
Welcome to the A Building. I'm Hans Charles.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm Inumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. Have both been assassinated and black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protest broke out on an.
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Hans Charles
Unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia. At Martin's alma mater, Morehouse House College, the students had their own Protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Jr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying.
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Hans Charles
1968 the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
The FBI had a role in the.
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Hard Rock Bet Announcer
Murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should and it will blow your mind.
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Hans Charles
Listen to the A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jeff Hamilton
I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys.
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Ben Higgins
Five Rings podcast in the lead up.
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Jeff Hamilton
To the Milan Cortina 2026 winner Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Hi Bowen. Hi Matt.
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Jeff Hamilton
Hey Elmo. Hey Matt. Hey Bowen. Hi Cookie. Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ben Higgins
What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me is where culture meets the soul, A place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life. Celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks. And we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff. Identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore. Loss that changes you. Purpose when success isn't enough. Peace when your mind won't slow down. Faith when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if youf Can Hear me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Segregation in the day, integration at night. When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules.
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Jeff Hamilton
We didn't worry about what was going on outside. It was like stepping in another world. Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the kkk. Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniform.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.
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Jeff Hamilton
From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch, and visit Myrtle beach, comes Charlie's place, a story that was nearly lost to time until now.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's something you got coming out this big?
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Jeff Hamilton
The biggest thing I have, I think, is probably the World cup, you know, the World Cup. So I have a global rise from the World cup. So that's. That's pretty big. We want the World cup jackets, man. We need it.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
He's gonna get you. He got me. Let me tell you. Said Jeff Hamilton always picks up my corn. Like, like, like you right about. Nah, nah. He always picks up. I go, what's up, brother? What's going on? I'm like, yo, where you at? He said, I'm in Italy right now, but what do you need, Joe? I said, y' all need a white jacket. This. It's coming your way, Joe. Don't worry about it. I mean, always accessible, always a hard grind. I tell people when you're not around has nothing to do with you. I could be driving in my car and I think about you. Because I'm 55 and we all hustle. He works hard too, because you can't make excuses. Them bills come no matter what, so. But often I just think, and I think of you. I've never seen nobody your age work as hard as you. I just have never seen it yet.
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Jeff Hamilton
Especially like I'm 30 years old. I act like I'm 30 years old. I just enjoy every second. Like if I. If I. I don't move differently than if I was 30 years old. The only thing I don't do is that I won't ride motorcycles. I. I won't. I won't really exercise. I eat right. I. I walk. I. You know, I'm just. I'm very careful.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You might not get married again, right?
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Jeff Hamilton
Yeah, I just, you know, for sure we'll get them everything.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
I don't give up half of the World cup, man. Come on. Don't. Just stop. You gotta learn your lessons.
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Jeff Hamilton
Have a great relationship with my ex wife.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You gotta learn from the lesson. Don't do that, please.
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Jeff Hamilton
I'm blessed with my grandkids and just, you know, it's a blessing for me to be the stage of my life.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You're originally from Morocco?
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Jeff Hamilton
I'm Jewish, born in Morocco, so I'm an official African American, so. But I moved to Paris when I was 11 years old and moved to America when I was 24.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
So you don't know the little guy from Marc? It's the little man this small from Marcaresh.
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Jeff Hamilton
Marrakesh.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Marrakesh, French Montana. Knows him. It's a little guy.
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Jeff Hamilton
I don't know him.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You know, we got to bring this guy in, if he could get a visa or something. Yo, I gotta bring him. I pay for it. Let's find a little guy I want to fly on. There's a little man. You ever seen? No.
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Jeff Hamilton
I met one little man like that in. In Abu Dhabi. The third Turkish kid.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You talking about asphalt as fell's a little bit tall. I'm talking about little man as well as a little man. Those are my guys in Santo Domingo. They had a guy named Nelson. Little guy like this, he used to party with us. Jump on the. Jump on the chair. Jump on Nice. Crazy. You met. Australia's the man. But Astro's a little bit bigger than these guys. These guys are like, really, you know, French knows the guy. You know what I'm saying?
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Jeff Hamilton
But like on horror, they have. They have Beetlejuice. No, Beetlejuice is great. Yeah. He was the greatest, right?
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Howard Stern is probably the first Original legendary podcast, for sure. Yeah. Like, he had. He was doing whatever the he wanted.
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Jeff Hamilton
Yeah. And it still does. I mean, it's still doing it, you know, so.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
And he still goes to the bank regularly. Like, they. He gets the bags. Like nobody. I think the girl. What's the girl? Robin.
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Jeff Hamilton
Robin.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
She made 10 million a year. Like Robin or more. Right.
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Jeff Hamilton
But. But, you know, listen, they have the audience. They have the stuff that they do. And. And, you know, they. They had the ups and downs. But I've done stuff with him since the 90s when he was not even, like, syndicated everywhere. So first time he called me and I had made a jacket for Slash for Guns N Roses. Said, I want to make me the same exact jacket, but instead of having the top hat and the hair and the guns, I want to do my long hair, a skeleton of my face, and I want two microphones. And he came in and he came into my hotel, and I delivered the jacket. And he put the big checkbook. Remember how we had the three part checkbooks? And he put in the checkbook, wrote the check, carried the balance, and did it all himself. And he answered his own phone, and he owns. It's just like Bergman.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Hey, listen, the first investment I ever made, like, investment, like in stocks.
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Jeff Hamilton
Seriously.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
I don't even know where it's at. Like, when Howard Stern went to SiriusXM, I might have threw 40, 50,000. I said, oh, no, this is going to be a big stock. You know, I'm not a stock guy. I don't really do stocks like that. But that's the one stock I bought. Now, I don't even know where to find that shit right now. I don't know. Work, money. Not. It's something.
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Jeff Hamilton
There's something.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
It's something there. I don't know what it is. But Howard Stern, you know, he a legend in the game, just like you. The World cup is going to be crazy. They said they charging $200. They taking over every parking spot. You heard about that? They said they taking over every parking place, every parking lot, and every car. That lease is 200 a baht. They're letting you know off rip on the platform.
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Jeff Hamilton
I was looking the other day. We're talking about the World Cup. The average ticket test, like a good seat was $11,000 a ticket.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
11?
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Jeff Hamilton
Yeah. There's 104 games, 16 different cities, 48 countries.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
48 countries. I went to the. To the World cup in Qatar.
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Jeff Hamilton
Qatar, yeah.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm saying I went and there was 36 teams. That was 36 days yeah, no, it's.
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Jeff Hamilton
Like it's a month and a half. It's gonna revolution. And it's three countries. Mexico. Three. Three cities in Mexico, two in Canada and 11 in the States. It's gonna be here. Yeah, it's gonna be metlife. It's gonna be the finals.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
The finals is in New York.
- [31:39]
Jeff Hamilton
Yeah.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
So we're having a lot of Jeff Hamilton.
- [31:45]
Jeff Hamilton
A lot of stores are going, a lot of pop ups with us. So I'm doing a lot of stuff. Hopefully some big collaboration coming up with that.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Also shout out to Haiti and the World Cup.
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Jeff Hamilton
Yeah.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Know what I'm saying? They got in for the first time. They've been through so much, you know what I mean? Just the fact that they could represent the country out there in the World cup is an amazing thing. Jeff Hamilton, man, we never had a fashion icon on this show. We was excited to do this. I know you gotta get going, man. We love you, brother. Keep putting your name out there. Keep doing your thing. Keep smiling now. You always smiling, man. But let me tell you something, you just stepped my game up. Cause now, cause I got a problem. I got a fashion problem. I spend too much money. I love it too much. But now you made me, I got some crocodiles. But now, because you told me it's the most expensive, I' ma start looking for some crocodile with a fur on. Like I need to come in here with the glowing, the dark crocodile. You know what I'm saying? I gotta take it to that because. Because you know, it's certain things self explanatory, right?
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Jeff Hamilton
No crocodile, they already know what it is.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah.
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Jeff Hamilton
You don't need the fur, you don't need the logo, you don't need anything.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You don't need nothing.
- [33:11]
Jeff Hamilton
But you need the right crocodile.
- [33:14]
Joe Crack the Dawn
I'm not going to say the designer.
- [33:16]
Jeff Hamilton
Okay, you can say the designer.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
No, no, I don't want to say it. Right. Because he's a nice guy. But I, I called this. You want me to say it? Okay. So I went to do a show for Philip Ply. Right, right. Who? Philip, that's your guy. Philip Plein looks like the richest guy in the world. Right? And he probably is, right? But he told me, he took me to his store. He said, anything you want, Joe. And it was a crocodile right there. I said. He said, oh, no, Joe nothing. Anything but that. I said, philip Blind, you're the richest guy in the world. You told me to pick. He said, joe, this is my showpiece. He said, you take that. I have nothing to show like this is. I would say, yo. But, you know, I went for the bet, I went for the gusto. I went for the big.
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Jeff Hamilton
I did one for Arnold Schwarzenegger through Bijon, and that was 150 grand for. For like. Like a blazer. Crocodile, even. Even like, something like that. Like, that directly would be like 35, 40 grand.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You should have saw this guy earlier. Had the camouflage. Does that look good down to your ankle? That's what I'm talking about.
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Jeff Hamilton
That was. That was really good. That looked good. The whole fit.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Yeah, the whole fit was crazy, right? You know, sometimes. You know, like the other day, something I'm a big fan of. We are. Was Bottega.
- [34:44]
Jeff Hamilton
Yeah, me too.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Bottega. A lot of urban don't understand Bottega like that. They don't know what that thing is right now. They starting. Yeah, they starting to know. Yeah. Scammers, hustle. You got. People always want, like, me. I just said, yo, you got guys who want the best no matter what it is. They like, oh, that's the shit I need to get. And so that woven print.
- [35:06]
Jeff Hamilton
Yeah, that.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
That woven fabric, it's beautiful. I seen Cardi B at the football game with the burgundy, and then she had. All the way down to the boots, all the way down to the.
- [35:17]
Jeff Hamilton
Even the sunglasses are beautiful. I mean, I just, you know, they're beautiful stuff. I mean, but the key when it comes to branding and fashion, branding and luxury branding, is number one, you have to flex for yourself. You're buying it because you love it yourself. You know, if you love it yourself and you put it on yourself and you feel good when you look at stuff in the mirror, then. Then you. 98, 99 of the game is done. Of course you want people to see your watch and your stuff.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
You know, I could tell you, but.
- [35:47]
Jeff Hamilton
It has to be come from you to become authentic. To come from you.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
We like.
- [35:51]
Jeff Hamilton
Then people follow up, and then. Then people recognize it, you know, Let.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Me tell you something, Jeff, right? Because I have a real problem with fashion. Spending money on fashion. I've spent so much money on fashion, but one place I've always been able to walk out of, Fendi furs, to me, are the best. Furs. The best. I don't want to say I could never afford it, but it's so expensive. I never pull the trigger. I have walked out the store, seen stuff that I really want, and I said, walked it off, went out. But recently, maybe like a month ago, I finally bought my Fendi fur, and it felt so good. I felt Like, I accomplished something in.
- [36:39]
Jeff Hamilton
Life that's for you.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
I mean, after everything I ever bought in my life, I started bragging to people. I was like, I did it. And they was like, Shay Jim Jones wife Chrissy, my sister. I said, chrissy, man. She was at my house with my wife. I said, chrissy, I did it. She said, what you mean? I said, maybe 20 years, I walked out of Fendi. I loved every fur, but never pulled the trigger. I said, I fucking pulled the trigger. And she said, yeah, Joe, you took it to the max. I said, yeah, I took it to the max. Listen, the best thing about Jeff Hamilton is everything quality. Every jacket I ever got from you is just supreme quality. You know, it's quality, timeless. And, you know, you put in so much work in the game that people gotta salute you and just be like, you know? And everything comes back right. In fashion nowadays, my daughter dresses, my nephews dress, and they try to show me stuff that we wore in 92 and be like, yo, this is the new wave. We got the fly. I'll be like, yo, ho. I throw the flag on the plane. Like, yo, hold up, man. I told you what I did the other day. Somebody. All right, I can't. Okay. Somebody wore this beautiful fur, a white fur, right? I'll tell you, it's asap. Ferg, right, who I love very much, he wore this. He did it right. He wore this white mink to his ankle with the visus and all that. And I went to looking through my pictures because I remember I wore that white mink before back like 20 something years ago. I said, call Torell my stylist. I see. Yo, T, you remember the time I rocked the white mink? He was like, yes, brother. That was like the day before the MTV or the Grammys. We looked for that, and I found that away. I wore that white mink. I said, yeah, I wore that before. Like, I just knew. But we love getting fly. We love staying fresh, you know, rest in peace. My brother, Clark Kent, he had this thing, I think it was called Addicted to Fresh. And he be like, yo, I don't care. I'm just addicted to fresh. And you, my friend, Jeff Hamilton, are addicted to fresh. This ain't that.
- [38:59]
Jeff Hamilton
That ain't this.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
It's cracking Kiss. Make some noise for Jeff Hamilton. Oh, jeff hamill. Yes.
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Mandy B
Over the last couple years, didn't we learn that the folding chair was invented by black people because of what happened in Alabama? This Black History Month, the podcast Selective Ignorance with Mandy B unpacks black history and culture with comedy, clarity and conversations that shake the status quo. The Crown act in New York was signed in July of 2019 and that is a bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with race. To hear this and more, listen to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jeff Hamilton
I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys.
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Ben Higgins
Five Rings podcast in the lead up.
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Jeff Hamilton
To the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joining by some of our friends.
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Ben Higgins
Hi Boen.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Hi Matt.
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Jeff Hamilton
Hey Elmo. Hey Matt. Hey Bowen. Hi Cookie. Hi. Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
1969 Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis, and at Morehouse College, the students make their move.
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Hans Charles
These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.
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Joe Crack the Dawn
Our menelik Lumumba.
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Hans Charles
Listen to the a Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ben Higgins
You can scroll the headlines all day and still feel empty. I'm Ben Higgins and if you can hear me is where cold culture meets the soul. Honest conversations about identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith and everything in between. Celebrities, thinkers, everyday people. Some have answers. Most are still figuring it out. And if you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.