Joe and Jada - Joakim Noah talks Bulls & Derrick Rose NBA MVP prime, Knicks & LeBron's future

Summary

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd: Joe and Jada – Joakim Noah Talks Bulls, Derrick Rose MVP Prime, Knicks & LeBron’s Future

Date: November 27, 2025
Hosts: Fat Joe & Jadakiss
Guest: Joakim Noah
Podcast Feed: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts and The Volume)

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Episode Overview

This electric, exuberant episode dives deep into basketball culture, New York legends, NBA what-ifs, and personal reflections with former NBA All-Star and Chicago Bulls icon Joakim Noah. Hosted by hip-hop legends Fat Joe and Jadakiss (on the Joe & Jada Show segment), the conversation is vibrant and honest—spanning locker room stories, streetball tournaments, memories from the Knicks, the "what could have been" with Derrick Rose, and passionate debates about today’s NBA, LeBron James' future, and more.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. New York Hip-Hop & Hoops: How NYC Shaped Joakim Noah

• Joakim shares how arriving in New York City in 1998 from France was transformative, especially the influence of hip-hop and streetball on his identity.
  • "To me, New York City hip hop around that time, this shaped my life… Basketball and hip hop were so connected. You don’t see that anywhere else." (Joakim Noah, 06:31)
• Remembers early Rucker Park experiences, Fat Joe’s legendary tournament appearances, and how streetball offered a different kind of basketball education.

2. Florida Gators Dynasty & The Power of Chemistry

• Noah details the joy and camaraderie of winning back-to-back NCAA championships with Florida, crediting coach Billy Donovan and team chemistry over individual stats.
  • "When you have good chemistry on that court, you can't take that shit for granted. You might never have that shit again." (Joakim Noah, 16:35)
• Discusses the rare choice the team made to stay in college despite NBA opportunities, describing those years as the best of his life (“no social media, we was up, man”).

3. Wild College Days: Sharing Campus with Aaron Hernandez

• Fat Joe and Jada press Noah for stories about sharing dorms with Aaron Hernandez, reflecting on the wild personalities at Florida at the time.
• Joakim reflects on the tragic arc of Hernandez, emphasizing the larger community of "good brothers" who also achieved championships (“the school was on fire”). (19:07-20:25)

4. Streetball Legends, Rucker Park, and the NBA-Streetball Divide

• Vivid stories of NBA stars (Ron Artest, Stephon Marbury, Baron Davis, etc.) playing in NYC street tournaments, and how some struggled with the unique intensity and crowd vibe.
  • “The entertainment is addiction... this shit changed my life. I’m from France.” (Joakim Noah, 27:27)
• Fat Joe contrasts NBA dominance with streetball challenges: “Some All-Stars... were shook... they might have scored two points.” (29:15)

5. Evolving NBA Big Men & The Phenomenon of Wembanyama

• Debate about the modern game's evolution—7-footers like Victor Wembanyama displaying guard skills.
  • “I never seen no shit like this.” (Joakim Noah on Wembanyama, 23:02)
• Fat Joe laments loss of traditional big man play, sharing his “Bobby Knight” approach to coaching bigs.

6. Role of Mentorship, Family, and Early Discipline

• Joakim credits his athletic lineage (pro tennis star father Yannick Noah, soccer-playing grandfather) for instilling him with discipline and work ethic.
  • “I wasn’t more talented than half the guys out there, but I had that education... the discipline of what it takes.” (Joakim Noah, 42:14)
• Compares the hunger and discipline needed to make it in pro sports and music; Fat Joe gives examples from his own grind in the hip-hop industry.

7. Inside the Bulls’ Rise & Derrick Rose’s Prime

• Joakim describes the Bulls’ roster in their prime—young Jimmy Butler, Derrick Rose, Luol Deng, and Carlos Boozer, coached by Tom Thibodeau.
• On Derrick Rose: “When Derrick Rose in his prime... every time he was on the court, you felt like you had a chance you could win... When the injury happened, it was like somebody died, bro.” (Joakim Noah, 74:09)
• The hosts recognize Rose as one of the biggest "What Ifs" in NBA history.

8. Knicks Frustrations and the Challenge of Returning Home

• Noah’s rough tenure with the Knicks—injuries, a soured relationship with coach Jeff Hornacek, getting “kicked off” the roster.
  • “When I was on the Knicks, I wasn’t right... I got a coach who don't fuck with me.” (Joakim Noah, 59:01-59:18)
• On NYC’s pressure: the difficulty of playing for your hometown team, the temptations, the feeling of the city “being too close to home” for some athletes.

9. NBA Changes: From Street Legends to Modern Superstars

• The crew discusses why so many New York legends didn’t succeed in the NBA—accountability, discipline, not just skills.
• Joakim, Fat Joe, and Hey Butter all share life lessons (116:40–117:16), warning the next generation to be listeners, stay accountable, and avoid focusing on outside opinions.

10. Modern NBA Debates: MVPs, “White Boys” Discourse, LeBron’s Future

• Spirited debate on the MVP race: Fat Joe predicts Wembanyama dominates for years, Noah shouts out Luka Doncic, and they all marvel at the rise of international (esp. European) stars.
• Address youth claims about Jordan “playing against white boys,” with everyone fiercely challenging the narrative and appreciating European talent as “a different kind of white.” (97:26–97:46)
• LeBron Debate: Fat Joe provocatively claims LeBron could be traded as a new crop of Lakers scorers emerges, sparking pushback from Jada and Noah.
  • “The NBA has taught you there is zero to no loyalty... I’m telling you right now, they put the young boys on the floor.” (Fat Joe, 108:21)

11. Life After Basketball & New Ventures

• Noah opens up about adjusting to life post-NBA—no more crowds, the “gladiator” energy, shifting to building community, mentoring.
  • “You’re playing in front of 20,000 people... then when it’s done, your frequency as a competitor, you gotta change.” (Joakim Noah, 80:27)
• Announces his travel show, Nomad, produced by NBA Take Two Media, with episodes filmed in Chicago, Morocco, and Jamaica—exploring basketball culture across the globe. (83:40–84:31)
• He reflects on the privilege of being able to say no to gigs he’s not passionate about, thanks in part to the career and money he made.

12. Shout-outs and Tributes

• Multiple shout-outs to NYC streetball legends, late friends (Greg Marius, Ali Mo, etc.), and coaches (Tom Thibodeau, Tony Rosa).
• Guests Hey Butter and others talk about financial literacy for the next generation, advising youth to avoid mistakes (116:40–117:16).
• Emotional moments, including congratulating Omar Cook on becoming an NBA assistant coach, and reflecting on the journeys of players like “Skip to My Lou.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Team Chemistry:

  "When you have good chemistry on that court, you can't take that shit for granted. You might never have that shit again."
  – Joakim Noah (16:35)

• On Derrick Rose’s Prime:

  "When Derrick Rose in his prime... every time he was on the court, you felt like you had a chance you could win... when the injury happened, it was like somebody died, bro."
  – Joakim Noah (74:09)

• On Streetball vs. NBA:

  "I brought NBA players... All Stars... they might have scored two points and they was shook…that was Harlem."
  – Fat Joe (29:15)

• On NYC Hip-Hop’s Influence:

  “If I didn’t have New York City, didn’t have hip-hop… the street ball and the hip hop was so connected. You don’t see that anywhere else.”
  – Joakim Noah (06:31)

• On Accountability for Next-Gen Athletes:

  “What they shouldn’t do is focus on what others are saying. Stay true to yourself... be more a listener... accountability… that’s really a main thing for me to help the next generation.”
  – Hey Butter (116:40)

• On LeBron’s Future:

  "The NBA has taught you there is zero to no loyalty... I'm telling you right now, they put the young boys on to get on the floor."
  – Fat Joe (108:21)

• On Life After the NBA:

  “You’re playing in front of 20,000 people… then when it’s done, your frequency as a competitor... you gotta change. I can’t be like, ‘yo, fuck that’—it’s about bringing people together now.”
  – Joakim Noah (80:27)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------| | 06:31 | Noah on how NYC & hip-hop shaped his identity | | 15:35 | Florida Gators championships, team chemistry | | 19:07 | Shared dorms with Aaron Hernandez; campus culture | | 22:25 | Streetball stories from Rucker Park | | 23:02 | Wembanyama & evolution of the big man | | 29:15 | NBA All–Stars vs. streetball; unique NYC intensity | | 42:14 | Athletic family roots and discipline | | 47:47 | Bulls roster breakdown: Butler, Rose, Deng, Boozer | | 74:09 | Derrick Rose MVP prime and the heartbreak of injury | | 83:40 | Joakim’s travel show 'Nomad’ announced | | 97:26 | “White boy” NBA MVP debate/Luka–Joker–Wembanyama | |104:48 | Hot take: LeBron trade rumors—heated Lakers debate | |116:40 | Hey Butter’s advice on accountability for youth | |119:08 | Emotional congrats to Omar Cook (Rucker to NBA coach) |

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Episode Tone & Style

The conversation is fast, frenetic, raw, and playful—reflective of a shared history in both NYC basketball and hip-hop. Fat Joe and Jadakiss set a lively, barbershop-like energy, but are unafraid to probe tough realities, express nostalgia, and push their guest—and each other—on sports debates. Joakim Noah is open, humble, self-aware, and generous with personal lessons. The banter is thick with slang, jokes, and authentic storytelling.

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Recap & Takeaways

• Legacy & Brotherhood: Real greatness is as much about off-court relationships, chemistry, and humility as it is about stat lines or highlights.
• Street to League: Few can bridge the gap—NYC streetball is an unforgettable proving ground, but making the NBA requires accountability, discipline, and adaptability.
• Changing of the Guard: Embrace the new NBA—international talent, “positionless” 7-footers, social media pressures, and shifting team loyalties.
• Giving Back: Noah’s focus on mentoring, community, and telling global basketball stories (via Nomad) is a reminder of the game’s broader impact.
• The Stakes of Hype: The show is a tribute to the highs and heartbreaks that define careers in sports and music, and the importance of remaining grounded as the game—and life—moves on.

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Listen to this episode for an insider’s blend of sports, culture, and real-life wisdom—plus, the interviews and streetball tales you won’t get from ESPN.

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Transcript

[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Joakim Noah]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Joakim Noah]

You know we said the bread could wait. Cause we having a blast out here. No social media. We was shit up, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, what up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the diggity Dawn Diglett. Don't play yourself.

[Jadakiss]

It's your boy Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. I mean, this particular episode is going to be one of my favorites because I love sports, you know what I mean? And when you think about our next guest, think about being a part of arguably one of the best college basketball teams in history. When you think about my next guest, you think of the old NBA. You think of tough defense. You think of a center that could stick all other four positions on the floor. You think of just toughness, New York grit. Think of a good person coming from a good family, a good father, good human being. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother, Joe King Noah.

[Joakim Noah]

It's an honor. It's an honor.

[Jadakiss]

This is my brother, no doubt. You know what it is?

[Joakim Noah]

It's an honor, man. Honor to be here.

[Jadakiss]

We appreciate having you. I know my man, the Phil Jackson of the ruckus over here. He couldn't wait to have you up here. You know what I mean? You can't tell him nothing. He's. He's the Greg Popovich of the street ball.

[Joakim Noah]

That's right.

[Fat Joe]

You know, explain something to you, man. They asked me.

[Jadakiss]

Now he got his is mixed with Marlon Brando now.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, what you want? No, I don't mean no. I don't mean no like that. What I'm just trying to say is just now people are starting to say, yo, y' all got too many guests on the show. What happened to just Joe and Jada? But what you do when legendary guys like this pull up and they available, we gonna put them on the jones.

[Jadakiss]

First things first. Anybody that's somebody that come to the city, you know where they coming here. That's it.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Jade, I like that.

[Joakim Noah]

Anybody that come to the city, I took the plane. I took the plane to come and be on the show.

[Jadakiss]

They ain't flying into y' all shows.

[Fat Joe]

Take the plane.

[Jadakiss]

He flew in.

[Fat Joe]

They talking. Cam and jco, I know you a fan of hip hop.

[Jadakiss]

This is the first show I walk off.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, why you want to walk off? Kiss?

[Jadakiss]

I want to get into this, man.

[Fat Joe]

You don't want to.

[Jadakiss]

You can, though.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not getting this shit. I'm asking you a hip hop show. What you think about this? What they saying online, who's better? Cam, JCole, whatever the case may be.

[Joakim Noah]

So for me, I moved to New York City from France in 98. To me, new York City hip hop. Around that time, this shaped my life, you know what I mean? Like, I come to New York City, I'm talking English like this, with the accent and stuff, all Frenchy. But then Tony Parker, you know what I'm saying? Some Tony Parker shit. And then I get to New York City and the fucking hip hop is just going nuts. Like, I'm coming from France. And then all of a sudden, I kissed bitch ass nigga. I bet the hood won't miss you, ass nigga.

[Jadakiss]

You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

I'm like, oh, the fuck is this?

[Joakim Noah]

So I had to learn along the way, you know what I'm saying? But that was, you know, I love basketball. Next thing you know, I'm going uptown, I'm playing basketball with the guys. And New York, like, it shaped me. It shaped me. If I didn't have New York City, if I didn't have the hip hop, because the street ball and the hip hop was so connected. And you don't see that anywhere else like that. Like, Joe, like, I remember you pulling up at the Rucker, you know what I mean? You got all your guys with you. We playing you and the chips. We lost to the chip. I missed a couple free throws at the end ot. But I had a question for you about that. Cause this shit fucked me up because they caused some real bullshit on me. So did you pay the refs?

[Jadakiss]

Definitely butted up.

[Joakim Noah]

Somebody I need to know? Cause this is. This was what, like, 20 years ago?

[Fat Joe]

Everything I earned was legit.

[Joakim Noah]

Okay?

[Fat Joe]

You know what they did to me? I won. I just. Everything I earned was legit, you know? With me, we won five chips in a boat. On the sixth one, we got robbed. And so we was up like eight points with like 12 seconds. And they kept calling five, five. And the other team, just the crowd been waiting to see me lose. You know how people hated Kobe and all this, but when he passed away, you realized, yo, we lost a treasure. It was like we were winning so much. So we had fans who just wanted us to lose. And when we lost and we walking out the park, they barely even celebrated. It was like, not like this. So I know what you felt like, but we didn't. I left because I was getting disrespected at the worker. I would have stood for 20 years, but they start doing. Yo, only two people could come in. Oh, this, this. I'm like, yo, I don't know if they know we getting this park lit, know what I'm saying? But they robbed me the one. The one year I lost. And we came back, the next year we blew them out. Pause in the championship, you know, And I got on the mic, I got real nasty with him because, you know, that coaching really was my life. You know, I tell everybody when I die, that casket gotta go through the rucker. You know what I'm saying? You know how it goes through your neighborhood? Because I had some of the greatest years of my life. But you didn't answer the question. J. Cole and Cameron, you just saying New York shaped your life.

[Joakim Noah]

I mean, killer, man. This is.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, this is crazy.

[Joakim Noah]

I mean, it's like Big Pun. I remember, I come to New York, I'm listening to. And I know you from where? Elementary school. I'm like, oh, yo, this is different. Different.

[Fat Joe]

It's a different area. You know, our kids, the youth, they're being very disrespectful. And they like you. You old. And I had some of my nephews style on me with clothes I wore in videos in Flo Jo. They was like, yo, this the new. We got the fly. I see. Yo, bro, we Wore that in 94, 95. The other day, I'm looking at Joey Badass, who is a friend who I got super love for, but he's sitting at the Nick game courtside. He got the trench hat on, so they bringing back all the old. But the youth might look at that and be like, yo, this Joey Badass wearing this of a lifetime. That is crazy. But, yo, guys, like, this is all recycled shit. And so Jada, my business partner, is telling me to mind my business with that right there.

[Jadakiss]

No, I'm not. Feel free. Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm minding my business.

[Fat Joe]

Okay? Why are you minding your business.

[Jadakiss]

We got to get involved in it. You think if you lawsuit that turned into some Internet shit and we don't even know what's going on?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, the lawsuit shit was kind of like, come on, man. I don't know what's going on in 2025.

[Jadakiss]

Let's talk about this. We coming to work today. I try to stop, support my brother, you know what I mean? I go to all of the locations. 3rd Ave, 207, 1 size 8. I stopped there to get some Timberlands for work. I go and see my man, Serge Wilson. He gave me 18 and a half and 110 and a half. What is this.

[Fat Joe]

A store you could trust?

[Jadakiss]

He sold me one ten and a half a bread.

[Fat Joe]

You could trust. Trust. Yo, Jada. Come on now. Yo, Jada, this is global. People coming in from all across the world are up. Nyc. Don't embarrass us. Everything. They gave you a ten and a half, and that's the oldest trick in the book.

[Jadakiss]

Ten and a half.

[Fat Joe]

They had to meet a quota. I must have said, yo, I need you to sell 10 pairs of Tims today. And they gave it to Jada.

[Jadakiss]

Shopping etiquette, my etiquette is so up when the display is 11 and a half and up. They don't got my size. Now Will goes downstairs. He's taking too long.

[Fat Joe]

Me, Will might have got it.

[Jadakiss]

He come back up. The box is a little bit old.

[Fat Joe]

And now we got it.

[Jadakiss]

Cash out again.

[Fat Joe]

We saw my. Yo, my good job, man. You made the quota.

[Jadakiss]

10 and a half. 18 and a half.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Kiss.

[Jadakiss]

Go to NYC.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie to you. Kiss. That's legendary. That's a legendary story.

[Jadakiss]

Got the most sizes.

[Fat Joe]

Talk to me.

[Jadakiss]

The best everything. Who answered the phone on this?

[Fat Joe]

The wire hit, baby.

[Jadakiss]

That's a money call.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Don't throw the flat. The wire hit.

[Fat Joe]

It's a big one, Kiss. It's the big one. Biggest in my life. All right. I tran. I'm on. I'm on the podcast. No, the wire hits.

[Joakim Noah]

What kind of side deals you got?

[Fat Joe]

No side deals. It's just God bless America right now. That's. That's. I've been waiting for that, you know? It's so hard, man. It's so much. It's almost like weight, right? It's so hard to lose weight. It's so easy to gain. It's so hard to make money, but so easy to spend.

[Joakim Noah]

This.

[Fat Joe]

You know, we just got let's not talk about no money no more. Listen, you with my store up nyc. How we treat you? What's the service in up nyc Get.

[Jadakiss]

A. I won't say my percentage off, but I get. I get treated well. They treat me at home. I go in the back, use the bathroom.

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He just.

[Fat Joe]

Wilson, you with the ten and a half and the eight and a half. Yo, that's the oldest.

[Jadakiss]

I think they line me up, cuz. Serge, tell them party and FL y. Listen, I'm over here talking to Serge. Wilson did the over kiss.

[Fat Joe]

I got to be honest with you. Kiss. I'm not going to lie to you. I think you've been lined up. I'm going to be honest. They lined you up. Had to sell a pair of boots. He gave the kiss. Let me tell you something. We used to get it like that in Jew Man. There was a store, not being offensive to nobody. Simpson street, it was a store called Jew man in the Bronx that had all the fly shit. Them niggas was the king of giving you a size 8 and a half and a 12. Like. And once you leave, they'd be like, we sold out. So you got to pick something else.

[Jadakiss]

Robbing you a few stops down on the train after you buy all your snorkels, all of that you got.

[Fat Joe]

I grew up in there. I would have never owned the store if it wasn't for Rose, Ted, Sheldon, all those guys, they taught us the retail business. Simon passed away. Melvin passed away. I'll tell you one thing. I was the only guy they would say, joe, when I opened the door. You run that way as fast as possible. You see the four guys across the street? They're gonna rob you. So I used to get my sneakers and have to run, like, book it, run up to the train. Cause I knew graffiti. I knew how to, like, jump off the train. So if you follow me in the train, and you know we stuck in the train, I know how in between the train to jump off and then run back down and get the up out of there. So that was my. The train. But, yo, Jew man was legendary. But they. They got that from there. I'm sorry about that, brother.

[Jadakiss]

You got that?

[Fat Joe]

We will replace these, these. These boots right here as soon as you. You blink, brother. Don't worry about it. I got you.

[Jadakiss]

And we got my brother here. You got to tell me about them back there. It's hard to win one chip in anything, but they get two NCAA chips back to back. Tell us a little bit about that. Tell us. Shout out to that whole team.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to Coach Billy Donovan. Shout out to everybody that was involved tonight. Let me hear a little something.

[Joakim Noah]

Hall of Fame coach. Coach Donovan just got in the holiday.

[Jadakiss]

Yep. I was actually. I was there with AI, so I was able to be in the building and Speech. It was dope.

[Joakim Noah]

Super dope. Shout out my man Brusky, Al, Horford, Green, Christopher. We had a. We had a squad, man. And after we win the chip, you know, they was like, it's time to go to the league. But we was having so much fun, you know, that we. We came back again.

[Fat Joe]

That's crazy.

[Joakim Noah]

There's not a lot of guys who say no to the.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no.

[Joakim Noah]

There was no.

[Jadakiss]

No. Electively, though, we collect. All come back. Yeah, that would.

[Joakim Noah]

Came.

[Fat Joe]

No.

[Joakim Noah]

So, you know, no bread on the table. Just going out there and just handling the business. These are my best friends, you know what I mean? So. I remember even going to the league. It wasn't like guys weren't even happy to go to the league. We was having so much fun.

[Jadakiss]

He was missing that camaraderie of that. Yeah.

[Joakim Noah]

Like, that's the shit about basketball. It's like the chemistry. Everybody want to talk about stats and the top guy in this, but when you have good chemistry on that court, you can't take that shit for granted. You might never have that shit again. You know what I'm saying? So. And that goes for everything. That's not just basketball. That's just life. You know what I'm saying? You got to treat your people right and take care and protect that, because that shit is fragile. You know what I'm saying? So. I cherish those times, man. I'm proud. The fact that we said the bread could wait because we having a blast out here. No social media. We was up, man.

[Fat Joe]

You. That. That y' all didn't go to the same school with Aaron Hernandez, right?

[Jadakiss]

We did. It did.

[Fat Joe]

Man, that boy was busting his ham out there on the complex.

[Jadakiss]

He was going crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Aaron and Nanda, you know him.

[Joakim Noah]

He was in the same dorm. Oh, same dorm.

[Jadakiss]

You're lucky. I never stepped on his.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, so you in the same place with Aaron Hernandez?

[Joakim Noah]

Yes.

[Fat Joe]

Did you know he was bugged out like that?

[Jadakiss]

Nobody.

[Joakim Noah]

Not like that. Not like that. When I saw it, I was like.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, he said he killed the. On the campus.

[Jadakiss]

Got him in the eye.

[Joakim Noah]

Now, y'.

[Fat Joe]

All. Not y'.

[Joakim Noah]

All. We can't. It's a sad story, man.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I got. I got my man John. Ben.

[Jadakiss]

What?

[Fat Joe]

What's John Peace's stats Rich. John Beeson was on every All Star team. Everything on the Giants. Probably the greatest player of Uwam. This. He told me Aaron Hernandez would be on the line. You know, when they be on the line, like, I kill you. And the. You know, football's like, we watch every week for, like, the hits that. This. He told me Aaron Hernandez used to tell them, like, yo, I will body you if you come like. And everybody shut the up. Like, he was the silent majority. Listen, Kiss that dude was talking to them where they was like, they didn't know, but they knew because the way he was saying, he was saying, like, he was saying, yo, bro, you know? Yeah, this year, I shoot your mom's like, what? Everybody was like, she's like, he was on one legend. But at that time, he was just fun. He wasn't really. It was fun. We shot a nigga in the eye at school.

[Joakim Noah]

The shit that's fucked up is like, you. We talk a lot about Aaron Hernandez, but there was a lot of really good brothers out there. Like, they won a chip too. So we won. Then the football team won, and then we won again.

[Jadakiss]

School lit.

[Joakim Noah]

So school is on fucking fire.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, nah, it's on fire.

[Joakim Noah]

On fire. But it's a sad story. There were other killers on that team too. But that's another story. But a lot.

[Fat Joe]

That's another story.

[Joakim Noah]

No, that's a lot of great brothers.

[Fat Joe]

Tell me about the guy who shot the place over there by the Bojangles. And let me tell you something. Y' all had some bugged out on your. I never forget Aaron Hernandez.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, leave him alone.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. Well, hold up. Let's see. I remember Aaron Hernandez. They walked him out of that mansion. I never forget how he spit on the floor. I said, oh, he did this shit. You see how they brought him out? He said, almost like when Cosby was walking out of court and he went. Remember when Bill Cosby was walking.

[Jadakiss]

Leave him alone.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you remember when Bill Cosby walked out the court and said, That's what Aaron Hernandez. They walked him out for double murder. Aaron Hernandez came out, he was like.

[Jadakiss]

Bill Cosby do that? What was that, cuz?

[Fat Joe]

Them is crazy is what I'm trying to tell you. Aaron Hernandez has a legendary spit. He walks out of the mansion, they walking him out for murder. He's like. I said, oh, he did the Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby walked Bill. Bill might have got that from Aaron Hernandez.

[Jadakiss]

Bill didn't do a spit. Bill just did it.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, we gotta start that Legendary perp walks. Scott's crazy, yo. Legendary perp walks. But sit. Yeah. You knew Aaron Hernandez then. This the one that got a hundred flags. Now they get they. This is gonna be a flag show.

[Joakim Noah]

We talk about championships. You want to talk about Aaron Hernandez?

[Fat Joe]

No, because I just hit me like I was just talking to you and I said, oh, it's the same school. Same school where Aaron allegedly Yayo went there.

[Joakim Noah]

Who?

[Fat Joe]

Tony Yayo, Brian.

[Jadakiss]

They used to work with us. He was there.

[Fat Joe]

He was in that school with all of them. Nah. That must have been a time. You know, me and you, we're more like sitting buddies. I don't know if you call that me and you. Many games at the Rucker in uptown. We sat next to each other in the bleachers and analyzed the game. What are you talking about, man?

[Jadakiss]

Sit. Buddies is a sick. That was a sick one.

[Fat Joe]

Don't fly.

[Jadakiss]

I'm not even. I'm not even gonna throw a flat. I'm gonna hold my flag.

[Joakim Noah]

That's crazy.

[Jadakiss]

I need so many.

[Fat Joe]

Me and you watch many games better up at the Rucker.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And. And. And Dykeman and all that. And a Butter loves you.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to Butter.

[Fat Joe]

He's on his way.

[Joakim Noah]

He's on his way.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to his way.

[Joakim Noah]

Shout out to a whole lot of game. He just got his book out too. Whole lot of game. Go check it out. One of my brothers, he used to get pissed at me in the street ball tournaments when I used to get the defensive rebound. I used to bring that shit up myself.

[Fat Joe]

What the fuck you doing? Fuck you doing, man?

[Joakim Noah]

Just give the ball to the point guard. I used to, you know, I used to like bringing that shit up myself. That used to stress him out.

[Fat Joe]

That was ahead of the time. You was ahead of your time. But let me ask you something. Now that you saying that this Wimba Yamba. Holy. What the is wrong with Wimba Yama? I seen them cross a dude four times. Coming. Crossing him to death. Seven. What? Whack, whack, whack, whack, whack. Coming up. I like a part like. Like, is this normal?

[Joakim Noah]

No, I never seen no like this.

[Jadakiss]

He was working with. He did some hell of an off season work.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, kids, you want to go see.

[Jadakiss]

The Monk kids, the Monks?

[Fat Joe]

We gotta keep it a buck kiss.

[Jadakiss]

I'm telling you, he's doing some shit nobody never did.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but he's seven one, seven, seven.

[Jadakiss]

He grew two inches this summer. He grew.

[Fat Joe]

Jada, the man come down. I'm talking about this one. Play. I want y' all to really Google this. He takes it out. The defensive dude picks him up all the way. He crossed them four times, went through the and dunked backwards. Like, this is like, it's everything we know about basketball or we think we know.

[Joakim Noah]

Right.

[Fat Joe]

Because you're a huge basketball fan. I am. He played the game. I have never seen this sort of thing. Like, this is crazy for seven. Seven.

[Jadakiss]

A little bit of gripe with the new way of basketball. Like, the stretch.

[Fat Joe]

I do too.

[Jadakiss]

I like the big. I like the old uses of the big man.

[Fat Joe]

Bumping bodies, pause.

[Jadakiss]

Go down on the block.

[Fat Joe]

That's me. I mean, I can't do it the way I coach. Okay. The way I coach is I will embarrass you. Yeah. Because I want it. All I want to do is win. So if you a dude that you want to do, I will call timeout and I will, in front of the whole crowd, stand on the spot and say, here, this is where I want you here. And pass him the ball right here. He's a big man. I want him to score. He don't do it. I call a timeout again. I walk right in the spot in front of the whole fucking park. I want it here. Here. Like, I'm not playing. I'm not. I'm not like. Like coach Mike Brown. I sat next to him. God bless him. He's a great coach. But I'm not cool with. Hey, buddy. Thanks for the. Like, he's too cool. Hey, Mike, do you. That's not what I do. I'm Bobby Knight of the coach and shit. You gonna. You a big guy. You are not finessing your way out of here. You're gonna have to bump and grind, pause and go to the. I can't do that. I cannot. Everybody got to play their position and do what they got to do. And I don't care about. You know, because the one thing I noticed about coaching is you could be the most athletic person in the world, but you could be dumb as. You need to get dumb.

[Jadakiss]

You need an iq, bro.

[Joakim Noah]

Who was the big guy on your team? Joe? Rest in peace. Panda.

[Fat Joe]

Should have been in that's finished breakfast.

[Jadakiss]

He used to dominate them.

[Fat Joe]

He broke my heart. He came and he played for Jay Z. Shout out to the Rock. He broke the strict.

[Jadakiss]

They swiped through.

[Fat Joe]

Yes. They tried to get Kareem Reed, too. They gave Kareem a duffel bag of. And he stood with the BX and we still brothers to 20 years later. I go like this. Look at Strict Finish Your breakfast about me. It's about Terror Squad, Fat Joe. Finish your breakfast. This, this, that. That's what that Strict line is about. That dude went, and I love Strict. Every time I pass this. So when I come from Jersey. When I come from Jersey, Strict used to live in them tall buildings on 181st. It's over the highway. Every day I come down here to Manhattan. I think of Shrek every day of my life. He was so talented, and he was like. What was he like? Sabonis. Who's the guy who used to pass Sabonis? Bonus.

[Joakim Noah]

He did have. He did the pop.

[Fat Joe]

He had that bonus. Arvidus. Yeah.

[Joakim Noah]

You know what I used to love about Stricto? I remember coming to my first time in the park, I'm like, holy shit. We had Kingdome. You know, one of those nights when it's just fucking lip. Nutcrackers. Everybody's nutcrackers. Everybody's smoking blunts. I'm like, what the fuck is this? Strict gets the ball. He takes it to the rack.

[Fat Joe]

He misses.

[Joakim Noah]

He runs in the fucking crowd. He drinks. He takes somebody's nutcracker. He drinking the Nutcracker, everybody.

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[Joakim Noah]

I'm like, oh, this is a whole different. Yeah, this was like. It was basketball, but the entertainment is addiction.

[Fat Joe]

It was an addiction.

[Joakim Noah]

No, this shit changed my life. I'm from France.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, I see this shit.

[Joakim Noah]

And then I get to. So my first year, Florida, the hardwood.

[Fat Joe]

Floor with this shit.

[Jadakiss]

Is what you say your first thing?

[Joakim Noah]

No, it was like. So my first year of Florida, I didn't play. I was playing behind. Al Horford was playing ahead of me. David Lee was playing ahead of me. So everybody talking about, yeah, yes, Joaquim, you gotta transfer every. Just noise, a lot of noise. So I'm like, you know what? I need to play. I haven't played all year. So I came to Harlem, and I'm playing in all the fucking tournaments that same. So I'm playing Dyckman. I'm playing at the Rucker. I'm playing at Kingdome, Voice of Harlem. On the mic, I'm like, you know, you got Kenny at Dyckman. I'm like, yo, okay. After that summer, went back to shop. I came back a fucking different. It was a different animal.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Cause they ain't have that. I brought a lot of NBA players, and I won't mention there was two or three that just, you know, who I brought. And I'm not disrespecting, because I'm a huge fan, but I brought homeboy Jason Richardson after he won the slam dunk.

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And.

[Fat Joe]

And he wasn't the same guy in the streets that he was in that Madison Square Garden. You couldn't get out. He was just intimidated. He never came with that shit out there. You thought this one, he was Mr. Highlight. After Vince Carter, he was the next guy dunking on dudes, jumping over cars. We brought him out there two times and it was like I got NBA players that I had to give him the pep talk, smack them in the back of their neck. And black, come on, guy. Oh, you're an all Star. Like, straighten up like, you know, pat him back in the neck. And yo, come on, guy, you're an all star.

[Joakim Noah]

You like Tibs? You like a street Tibs.

[Fat Joe]

I love Tibs. I love Tibs. But the truth is the truth. I had guys that were all stars, that were the most dominant in the NBA that you just seen them, they might have been on themselves when we get out there because they're not used to the nutcracker. They the blunt, the come dance in front of you for no reason. God, come out the stand, start dancing. What. And you, you in a good, you know, and, and you seeing all this and you see everybody. Then you look on the side, Fat Joe's crazy, running the crowd, topless, £500. You like, yo, what the kind of show going on in here? And then you coming and you like. And I'm trying, I'm. This is one guy, I don't want to say his name, but he was an all star. He might have been a 10 time boy. He came out there, I mean, he might have scored two points and he was shook. He was like, yo, but the people are on the court. But this, this is Harlem.

[Joakim Noah]

It's real.

[Fat Joe]

And a couple of them really, really excel. Couple of them was like, really, really. They loved it. You know, Baron Davis loved it. One time I brought out there Coutino Mobley and Stevie Francis and them niggas was going banana. Remember when they was the duo. Al Hamilton always played amazing out there. It was a lot of players. That was Stephon Marbury had him every game. You know, Stephon Marbury at that time was getting 22 million a year in the NBA. He was the highest paid. He played out there for free, was coming out there. Then he had his brother Zach. You not the whack Zach. Cause Zach never made it to the league. So that. But he was actually a good player. But you know, he's the Marbury. So they expect Zach. You not the whack they be on the mic. Yo, Zach, you not the whack Zach. Go up in there, he scores little 10 points and go hard. But, you know, Stephon Marbury's the most. He was the most dedicated street basketball NBA player I've ever seen. He gets this. And another person who never lost a single game is Ron Artest at the Rucker. He never lost a game. He played in Ron Artest. I had him one year on my team. We playing the chip. He splits his whole hand. Splits. You seen that before, right?

[Joakim Noah]

What, split?

[Fat Joe]

Like split? Like he had like a. His shit was split, like split. It's the championship. His shit is split wide open like he needed surgery or something. Definitely stitches, right? So now I'm shook because I'm thinking the Omen is old. Like, this guy never loses. Like, I knew I was winning. Look, Ronald never lost a game. So the one game we in the chip, he splits his hand. I mean, splits. So I'm like, oh, we lost. Because the man not going to be able to finish this game. It's like fourth quarter, the man get some tape. He tape his whole hand together. Tape goes back out there, starts killing them. Yo, Ron Artest, different. And, you know, I would go. I would go pick him up in Queensbridge projects. You know, Ronald has had two apartments in Queensbridge in the projects. He had that $49 million deal, too. He be sitting in front of the bench with Chancleta's on in the middle of the projects with everybody knowing he got 49 million, driving a dusty pickup truck. Ron Artest, he was different. Ron Artest was too. Just too strong. And his brother, right? What was his brother? Danny.

[Joakim Noah]

Danny Artest.

[Fat Joe]

Danny was. We used to play Danny. Oh, you Danny. Danny was big. Danny was. Yo, it's sometimes. That's why I'm trying to tell you that.

[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

Let's get to it.

[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

What player or what game did you watch? Christmas or something like that. And you went outside and and was like, yo. You was emulating the moves. Like, yo, I gotta be like this guy, this guy's incredible.

[Joakim Noah]

I would say for me, like, I grew up a Knicks fan and my pops used to take me to the games. So I was in the Garden when LJ hit the shot.

[Fat Joe]

I was there too, by the way.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, you definitely been to more Knicks games than.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no, no. But I was there that game. I was with Allen Iverson. He was here and we said it on the episode. He was with me. I've been looking forever for the pitches of that game, but it's the other side and we was in them seats. We was like a little fourth row, fifth floor. We wasn't in the court side. But that.

[Joakim Noah]

You saw that whole crowd go crazy so. But you know, it's like when you're a kid, you just watching all the games. You watching all like the. It was still VCR and like. So I had all the Magic Johnson tapes.

[Fat Joe]

Black and white.

[Joakim Noah]

I'm watching. Yeah, I wasn't black and white.

[Fat Joe]

No, I wasn't. I'm an old. I used to watch Honeymoon as black and white.

[Jadakiss]

Honeymoon is only came on in black and white.

[Fat Joe]

Now they got the. They got the colored version now. They even got wizard of Oz in color now. They redid it. The point is it was black and white. I used to watch the Knicks when the was black and white. I used to watch TV when the TV turned off. You ever. You too young for that, right? 12 midnight, they throw the American flag. A Indian dude come out and he look at the pollution. Oh, he was going green a long time ago. He. He'd be looking and he start crying. The Indian dude with the Indian outfit, every night he look and he see the trash and he start tearing. And that's it. You wake up in the morning, TV again. That is off all night come off. I talk about when I'm a kid. When I'm a kid. The honeymoonist was probably like the last show on with Art Carney that be going off. Then they got a flag and then they got an Indian dude. They're trying to tell you, yo, don't throw in the street, don't pollute you up the earth. And he come over there and he start crying and. And that's how TV turned off every night.

[Joakim Noah]

Damn.

[Jadakiss]

What do you mean it turned off?

[Fat Joe]

When you was watching what you was watching.

[Joakim Noah]

We talking about basketball right now. We talking about the tv.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basketball. You saying dvd?

[Joakim Noah]

Oh, no, it's just. It was more like. It was more, you know, you walking in the street and you just. You doing moves. You don't even have a ball or nothing. It don't matter. You working on.

[Fat Joe]

So you was in the street with the.

[Jadakiss]

Wow.

[Joakim Noah]

Just think, okay, what am I going to do? So I'm you walking up the block, working on your shit. You already there in your mind, you know what I'm saying? So for me, that was my mentality as a kid was just like, I wouldn't tell nobody. Like, yo, I'm going to the league. That was not how I move. But the reality is I'm a third. I'm a third generation athlete. Talk about it like, my father, my grandfather was a soccer player from Cameroon. My pops is a Hall of fame tennis player. Only African player to Ever win a Grand Slam?

[Fat Joe]

Wow.

[Joakim Noah]

Last Frenchman to win a Grand Slam.

[Fat Joe]

Wow.

[Joakim Noah]

So I grew up seeing all that.

[Fat Joe]

Just knowing you're a little kid, knowing.

[Joakim Noah]

The greatness, just knowing what it takes to be a pro. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like, yo, my pops would wake me up in the morning, yo, let's go for a run. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was my game. I wasn't more talented than half the guys out there, but I had that education of. All right, wake up in the morning. The discipline of what it takes. Like, when I see you fucking tired and I got two more gears because I'm running three miles before school. Cause I know nobody else doing that shit. And y' all fucking up the drills. Y' all don't want. Y' all. Coach say something. Cause you got 20 points. So you think that you can just. I don't give a fuck what the coach got to say. Like, New York City. More than just, like, looking at guys and being like, yo, I'm looking at guys like, this is what I'm not supposed to do, and this is what.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not supposed to do.

[Joakim Noah]

A lot of guys should have been there, man.

[Fat Joe]

There was a lot of guys who.

[Joakim Noah]

Were better than me. What a blessing.

[Fat Joe]

Same thing happened to me. I don't believe it happened to Kiss, because Kiss always been the best. But when I got on, I'm networking in Manhattan. I'm performing at sobs. I'm going to Lyricist Lounge, this and this and that, trying to get on. And the guys was a hundred times better than me in the hood. And then they got mad at me because I got on, but they wasn't willing to network, go talk to people, meet people, get a deal. Like, you know, I snuck up in the record label. That shit was 31 flights. I snuck in the record label, walked up 31 flights, and I was fat, fat, fat Joke. Three fat jokes, three fat Joes. And I give the guy my demo. He tell me I'm not good enough. And, like, that I was doing. I was going down to D.C. to. How can I be down and everywhere trying to get on. I end up doing Apollo Theater. I won four weeks in a row. That's how I got my. My chance. But other guys was a hundred times better than me, and they didn't understand. They were like, we better than Joey. But, yeah, y' all don't want to put in that work. You know, it's a special. And the athletes, a whole different. You know, I stood in Tony Parker's house for a couple of days, and that guy was eating like, a bean. They was giving that a bean and asparagus, one piece of turkey. And it was like, yeah, go work out for two hours. He come back, they give him some other bullshit tofu this. He gonna work out again. He come back, I'm like, yo, this shit is. Yo, that guy there.

[Joakim Noah]

Tony Parker.

[Fat Joe]

Tony Parker. I lived in his house for like a week. A week. We was performing at somebody's birthday party. He was like, yo, don't stay in the hotel. Stay in miles.

[Joakim Noah]

His was a country in San Antonio.

[Fat Joe]

San Antonio, he had a calm Plex, maybe a hundred acres or some. He had the professional gym to everything. But I'm looking at this dude eat, and he getting up, he got a chef. I'm eating all the eggs and pancakes and can eat. He eating a bean. This, this, that. I was like, yo, this is Tony Parker.

[Jadakiss]

Pops.

[Joakim Noah]

Tony Parker. Pops just passed, too, so rest in peace, Pops.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, he was there. Pops was there. He was on top of Tony like that. That's exactly who had him on that regimen.

[Joakim Noah]

That's right. His pops was a dog, too. Hooper, nice Chicago finest.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I'm trying.

[Joakim Noah]

Loyola, like, with top score. I went to the funeral last week. He had Tim Duncan there. David Robinson, like, yo, everybody. All the French players came. Thierry Henry. I'm like, yo, damn, boy showed up. They showed out for him. Everybody flew to Chicago.

[Fat Joe]

Goosebumps, brother.

[Joakim Noah]

You know what I'm saying? For Pops.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Joakim Noah]

So no respect to the family.

[Fat Joe]

Well, speaking of Tim Duncan, that's my favorite power forward of all. All time.

[Joakim Noah]

Does it get better?

[Fat Joe]

Fundamental. He give it to you? He don't even. That. I remember that one game. It was one game. He was one of his last games, and he was old already, and he was still busting. He gave him every.

[Jadakiss]

I don't remember him never busting ass.

[Fat Joe]

No, what I'm saying is his last season, his team was whacked.

[Jadakiss]

Who?

[Fat Joe]

His last season, Tim Duncan's team kind of fell off. Golden State was the best shit we ever seen. They fell off now, right? It happens to everybody. What I'm saying is they didn't have that kind of firepower no more. But that boy Timmy, man, he ain't let me down. He still gave them niggas like 41. He went to the last oxygen. He was trying to die.

[Jadakiss]

Gregg Popovich used to sit him out and put reason was old age. He used to make Tony Parker and Tim Duncan and them not mistakes.

[Joakim Noah]

Oh, yeah, Pop, he was cool like that, man. They used to. They were so good. The spurs were so good. Talk about chemistry. One day, Tony's like, yo, let's have. Let's have lunch. I'm not feeling like lunch playing, you know, buddy, buddy. Before the game, like we Chicago Bulls, y', all, San Antonio. He's like, nah, come on, man. I need to talk to you.

[Fat Joe]

Pop said that?

[Joakim Noah]

No, no. Tony Parker. I pull up, these guys are all drinking wine before the game. At lunch, I'm like, yo, so good. They came out there. Still bust our ass by twenties.

[Fat Joe]

Ginobly the chemistry. So who's on your Chicago team?

[Joakim Noah]

At that time, we had young Jimmy Butler, we had Derrick Rose, we had Luol Dang. We had Carlos Boozer. Whole lot of game in this. Come on, man.

[Fat Joe]

We talk about you a lot on this show, man. You wore your Harlem pink pants. You got your Harlem pink pants.

[Joakim Noah]

A whole lot of game in the building.

[Fat Joe]

A whole lot of game. Adrian. Yo, so you have a young Jimmy.

[Joakim Noah]

Butler, young Derrick Rose, Derrick Ross. We had. You know, it's too bad, man. Cause we were right there, man. We were right there. I love. I love everything about.

[Fat Joe]

Who else you got? Luau Ding. At that time, we had Luau Ding.

[Joakim Noah]

We had Kirk Heinrich picking up full court. That's the toughest. Toughest white boy. We had him. We had Big Duck, Brad Miller. Brad Miller changed my whole. My whole bro. He. One day after practice, he goes, you know, he had a big. He used to put dip in his mouth. You know, big country guy, redneck truck. Redneck truck, Exactly. But one of my best friends might.

[Fat Joe]

Have had the Confederate under the seat. The Confederate flag.

[Joakim Noah]

He might, but, you know. But the best. The best of the Confederates.

[Fat Joe]

Best of the Confederates in his mouth. Come on, be careful.

[Joakim Noah]

So he got the dip right, and he's like, yo, young fella, don't ever shoot a jump shot again. This is what I need you to do. Catch the ball at the elbow. Dribble handoff. If he's overplaying it, throw the back door pass.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, so funny. Two things he just told me.

[Joakim Noah]

Two simple things that changed my whole shit. Like, yo, I had. I had seasons where I'm averaging five dimes a game. Non shooter, just from that little. Just let big fella get the ball at the elbow.

[Fat Joe]

This guy's favorite bars for me was like, Sam I Cassell.

[Joakim Noah]

Like Sam ikasel, right?

[Fat Joe]

And every time I see Sam Cassell, I tell him, we gotta bring him on the podcast. Wasn't nobody like Sam Cassell?

[Joakim Noah]

Nah, the best.

[Fat Joe]

Sam Cassell's a coach. Whoever he's teaching is learning. He was one of the last technicians. Like, he's like a brainiac that could play. Experience is a motherfucker. And when somebody just gives you advice and you could apply it and turn around and make you so much better, it's amazing to me. And that's dope for Brad, because you guys had a hell of a team. You know what I'm saying? And y' all were just young. It was kind. Kind of like the OKC team when they had kd. They had, you know, they split them up. James Harden, like, what kind of team could that have been if they played together? Or Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter, they split that shit up. Yeah, you guys had a hell of a team and a hell of a coach.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Cause you know, I'm a Tibbs guy.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? I. With Coach Tibbs, man.

[Joakim Noah]

Shout out Tibbs, man. All right.

[Fat Joe]

No, he got 30 million on the walk out. He's all right.

[Joakim Noah]

I saw that.

[Fat Joe]

I've seen him.

[Joakim Noah]

I saw that clip. Y' all were wilding on the 30 million, bro.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you know, by the way, exactly. You want to coach, I mean, that's a hell of a walk on.

[Joakim Noah]

It's a highway robbery.

[Fat Joe]

Huh?

[Joakim Noah]

Highway robbery.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. He deserved everything. We ain't been there 25 years. They should have gave him more. Exactly. I'm not in favor of history.

[Jadakiss]

And bring them back right now, like tomorrow. Make a big thing.

[Fat Joe]

Bring them back.

[Joakim Noah]

Nah. Shout out. Tibbs was the best, man.

[Fat Joe]

It's sad because Coach Brown. The problem I got with Coach Brown is his sneakers.

[Jadakiss]

When he got old, when he rocking over, your Coach Tibbs was rocking Versace, Givenchy's, all of that.

[Fat Joe]

If your coach is piece, your team is pie. And Coach Brown, he's my neighbor. He lives around in the neighborhood. Everybody says a beautiful guy, but his sneak is. I'm not intimidated. So if I'm looking at the coach. Yeah, you, coach. You're the leader.

[Jadakiss]

He might got some bullshits on to intimidate you.

[Fat Joe]

Now he got some bullshits on. He got like, fake conversation. Nah, that's not helping the feet either. It's not comfortable. It ain't. Anyway, Coach Brown, I wish you luck. The system looks like it's going to work. By mid season, they're going to be. The fluidity, it's going to be right. Another thing, I want the job. I ain't got the pause. I ain't got the heart to tell you in person, because I see James Dolan at all the games, but if someone could tap him if Clyde Frazier retires, I want the job up. I'm giving up everything. Me and you. The glory days is over. Rapping everything to be the announcer.

[Jadakiss]

You gotta wear the suits.

[Fat Joe]

It ain't no money. It ain't no money.

[Jadakiss]

You gotta win.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta wear the cowhide suits, and I ain't got a problem with it. Pony Versace. I want to be the voice of the city. Voice. That's the voice. Holy McMoley. Ah, this fluidity. What? I'm ready for the job. Willing to deal and driving and thriving. What? I wear the cowhide suits in honor.

[Jadakiss]

Of Claude Mount Clyde. Other day, said, yeah, so there you go. Pat Riley used to have a hard time. He told him that's why he turned into a coach. He used to try to stick me out there. I used to kill him. That made him turn into.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I'm not even going to lie to you. The other day, you know, when people start dying. This. They. He's not dying. Right, but you know what people.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, listen, listen, everybody.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I'm not saying that. But you know, when people start dying, the dying. He on the deathbed. He know he going in six hours. He'd be like, Yo, I killed 36 people. They start telling. They, you know, they dying. The start, yo, I'm the serial killer of Alaska. Killed the girl in Albuquerque.

[Jadakiss]

This, yo, listen, I feel they come the flags.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, listen, I seen Clyde do something the other day I never seen him do in his life. He straight up said, I'm the best Nick, the greatest Nick of all time. Clyde don't brag like that. I seen him on the interview. No, no, no, no, no. He said that with those lyrics. I'm the greatest Nick of all time. Clyde Frazier, I never heard him say that in all them years. He said that recently, and there's rumors he might be retiring. And that man was like, yeah, Clyde Frazier, the greatest knick of all time. He won the chip.

[Jadakiss]

He won the chip, man.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

No, he wanted.

[Jadakiss]

I heard he used to clean his Rolls Royce with his chinchilla and all. As he deserves it, off his Rolls Royce.

[Fat Joe]

He deserves it. I'm with that. You understand what I'm saying? I'm with you. Live a life, man. You work hard, you deserve to do whatever the fuck you want. Is legal. You want to wipe your car with a chinchilla, wipe your car, do whatever ain't nobody give you. You work for it. So whatever makes you have. What's your man Jared Jeffries. Remember on the Knicks, the light skin dude?

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

He told me his first check, he cashed it out all cash and threw it in the bathtub. It slept in the money. Jared Jeffries, crazy, yo. That told me that. I was like, what? He was like, yes. I pulled out a half a million dollars cash, do it in the bathtub, and bathed in it all night. Like, in the money. The. Jared Jeffrey. What's the wildest shit you heard, like a basketball player say about?

[Joakim Noah]

I never heard no shit like that. That's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

No, I've heard it. We were playing Boston, and we went to dinner with Boston and the Knicks. I was up there in Boston, and they was all saying crazy. Like, they were saying crazy shit. The ball players, they were young. They were saying, you know, he said he bathed in that. I can't tell you the other shit. I'm really in trouble if I talk about these.

[Joakim Noah]

Nah, I think. I think the league now, it changed a lot, man. Like, you know, like, when you walk around New York City, you're like, why does it feel. Why does the city feel so polished? Like, the money's so big? That I think that. And because of the social media and all that, I think everybody's just on their best behavior. Like, you don't even. They don't even go. They playing video games. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's.

[Fat Joe]

It's John Moran.

[Joakim Noah]

Unless you. John. That's right.

[Fat Joe]

You trying to play China? You got want to play in China.

[Joakim Noah]

You're not playing.

[Fat Joe]

I warned them three years ago. You remember that? Hey, buddy, you watch everything I say. Hey, but I want them. Three years ago, I told him, bro.

[Jadakiss]

You wanted China from over the water. That placed 30 minutes. He's not used to playing a little bit of minute, so he had to fight.

[Fat Joe]

Threat.

[Jadakiss]

I got nothing to do with. No, he ain't. His patch is drunk. He ain't bothering nobody.

[Fat Joe]

Sitting there getting shrinking. Stephon Mulberry went from 22 million a year, the biggest player 97 times. Sister, they'll throw you in China or Yugoslavia. My don't care how nice you is, you're not bigger than the program. Fall in line or you're gonna fall by the wayside.

[Joakim Noah]

Tell me about it.

[Fat Joe]

That's right or wrong.

[Joakim Noah]

I lived it. I lived it here. I. I got kicked off the Knicks in the middle of the winter. I don't even have a job anymore.

[Jadakiss]

How'd that happen?

[Fat Joe]

That was good. That was a Good question. How they happen? Yeah, Jada barely wants to see. No, but that's a good one.

[Joakim Noah]

Corny Horny.

[Fat Joe]

Who was Corny Horny?

[Joakim Noah]

The Hornish Shack.

[Fat Joe]

Jeff Hornacek.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

What happened with him?

[Joakim Noah]

He didn't fuck with me, man. So he ran up on me like he wanted to fight me. That's what happened. But I mean, look, at the end of the day, I take my part. When I was on the Knicks, I wasn't, right? Like, I just got. No, no, no.

[Fat Joe]

This is.

[Joakim Noah]

This is like. This is a fucking movie. This is a movie. I'm a free agent, but I got hurt the year before. I remember, full shoulder reconstruction. So I do my surgery at hss, right?

[Fat Joe]

The best place.

[Joakim Noah]

So I get the surgery popping like, you know, I'm taking the pills for the surgeries. Like, I'm walking in the streets, but I'm a free agent, so I'm walking in these streets, everybody. Yo, Joaquim, you coming home? What's up? I get the call from Phil Jackson a week before free agency. I'm coming to New York. This is like dream come true shit. But I'm already on my injuries piling up, injuries piling up.

[Fat Joe]

I hate that.

[Joakim Noah]

It's the worst. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking ready. This is like dream come true shit. And I'm not right mentally. I'm in New York. The streets is calling, you know what I mean? I got a coach who don't fuck with me.

[Fat Joe]

Make It Rain's number one. About that time, Make It Rain.

[Joakim Noah]

Make It Rain was hot. That was. Make It Rain was hot. Making Rain was hot. And, you know, it's also. You gotta understand, when you playing in the NBA, the amount of money you make, it's on the ticker. Like, I remember going, being in the club when I signed my deal with the Knicks, I'm seeing people like, yo, look what Joaquin get. You know what I'm saying?

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[Fat Joe]

That's why my girl made Shout Out. My girl Robin, she made Baller alert for that. You know, Baller alert on Instagram, she made it so that when a baller comes in the club, they be like, yo, ladies, Joaquim Noah is worth. No, no. That's the true inception of Ball Alert was so that you could, like, like, know what these guys are making. Like, that's a fact. They know. They know what you're making. It's crazy about that. I don't disclose none. You go right now, they say, fat Joe worth, like a million dollars. Right now, in the net worth, I'm not worth nothing.

[Joakim Noah]

Exactly. Don't tell them nothing.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not worth a thing. They told me I was worth a million dollars. I had a million eight hundred thousand dollar watch on. When I saw that, the net worth, I was like, okay, perfect. I'm good. You know what they tell y'? All Shit. So you out there doing the most is what you're saying.

[Joakim Noah]

I'm doing it like. So I get kicked off the Knicks, I get into it with, with Corny Horny. And now this is the first time in my life where I got a lot of money. I'm young, but I don't have a job. So I'm like, yo, if I stay in New York City right now, it's a rap. It's a rap.

[Fat Joe]

I'm fucking myself up.

[Joakim Noah]

So I had to. I rented a house in la. Thank God I had great mentors. Larry Hamilton, big wave surfer so from end of January, all until December, so it was like almost a year. I had to train. I was training by myself. Like, I didn't have. I didn't have a team to rock with it. Yeah, but thank God, you know, Memphis picked me up and I got to finish my career, you know, playing off the bench for a year. And it was a blessing. But like, yo, I had nine surgeries, bro. Nine. You know what I'm saying? But like, yo, come on, man. Like, I got to live out, like, coming from here and being able to make money, take care of my kids, take care of my family, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got to live it at the highest level. The New York shit is like, Ira, when I go in there, it's like, damn, it hurt. I wish that. I wish it would have been better, you know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

You know, they do that a lot. They have a tendency of bringing people when they a little bit past their prime. Say Rasheed Wallace, everybody, man. Well, the Knicks do that.

[Joakim Noah]

Not now.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, not now. But the Knicks, well, you know, I believe that Leon Rose and Wes. Wes changed the whole DNA of the New York Knicks. Because me personally, I would have never got rid of Lynn Sanity and Tibbs. Tibbs changed the whole thing for 25 years. We're not even talking about that. I'm talking about the DNA. Yeah, yeah, right. I forgot what happened.

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[Joakim Noah]

Who?

[Fat Joe]

Somebody was playing on the Knicks. Now when the Knicks read up his contract, I couldn't believe it. As a Knick fan, we always lose the nigga. Once they get nice, they go and they brought him back. I said, oh, they finally changing the DNA, you know, like Lynn Sanity. I wouldn't have got rid of Lynn Sanity. He was must see tv. The man was on fire. Why wouldn't you bring the brother back? I didn't even understand a lot of moves they were making. They wouldn't pick Ronald Chess because he was from New York. They. They was bypassing New York. Players like Homegrown Born.

[Jadakiss]

The Knicks had 30 years of trading away that turned out to be incredible. Everywhere they went, Rod Strictly, Mark Jackson, every, everybody, like.

[Fat Joe]

But one of the reasons they were doing that was they. They answered, it's too close to home. So what they. I'm telling you, just from a fan, I felt like they didn't want Ronald Test in his prime. They didn't want these guys because they from the city. They had a mentality of though. They too close to home.

[Joakim Noah]

It's a real thing.

[Fat Joe]

Control.

[Joakim Noah]

It's a real thing. It's a real. That's a real thing.

[Jadakiss]

By the way, from the outside in, it's on the individual. You know, he's going outside. You know, Junior Smith's going outside. Brunson and Hart is in the library in Westchester chilling out, eating wings in Canada. Like, is. This stiff is on the.

[Fat Joe]

Well, that's great. It's great that we got some players that want to stay home. And do they thank God.

[Joakim Noah]

God, thank God, you know, because I.

[Fat Joe]

Hate going to the strip club and seeing the star of the in there throwing money. I'd be like, yo, this crazy. These what?

[Jadakiss]

What? In that same token, Mason and them was outside and he still was winning this.

[Fat Joe]

ZION Got like 32 strippers pregnant. Oh, I'd be really mad. Oh, man, come on. Yo, I would be really pissed if I was the fan of this. And Zion, my guy, I want him to play the greatest. I wanted him to be. That's the last guy to be.

[Joakim Noah]

A 32 is a lot sick. 32's a lot.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, you know, that's the Fat Joe. You know what I'm saying? But I don't mean it like that. I don't want it. I don't want to. I love you, Zion, man. I'm a fan of your game.

[Jadakiss]

When you help, say you love. About to say he got 32 baby strips.

[Fat Joe]

I know I would be really mad if I went to every strip club and Zion was in there and he's unhealthy and this and this. I'd be really pissed. And I went through that with the Knicks a lot. What's my man. He got straight shot in the knee.

[Jadakiss]

Cleanthony.

[Fat Joe]

Cleanthony. Outside Stallage. They fixed them bad. That was disgusting though. Any street who has something to do with that, you know, that was disrespect, bro. The man an athlete. You shoot him in his kneecap. It couldn't have been that serious.

[Jadakiss]

But he should have gave it up.

[Fat Joe]

Gave what up?

[Jadakiss]

Whatever they wanted.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, so they was robbing him and he.

[Joakim Noah]

That's up.

[Jadakiss]

They just didn't like his knees.

[Fat Joe]

That was personal. Nah, that was personal. They shot him in his knee. That ain't had nothing to do with no robber. Just me, Fat Joe. Criminal Theology 101. That was bigger than a robbery. They shot him in the knee. He was somebody, girl. They shot him in it. I'm telling you what must have happened. I don't know the facts. They not robbing the dude. Shooting him in his knee. He was somebody. And they said, you know what? This is the third warning. That's Chagito gave it to him. Chito, I'm telling you. But anyway.

[Joakim Noah]

You need to go back to the Rucker, man.

[Fat Joe]

I can't do it. Adrian be trying to give me a butter try to get me out there all the time. I can't do it. I would take the whole summer off. I wouldn't make a dollar. I number one. Okay, you could keep all your flags. You want to keep your flags or you want to throw them? I'm number one in America. West love is number one in America. White America's begging to give me money. I'd be like, yo, the whole summer's off. I got a coach. And me, I'm a different coach. Hey, butter's right here. One of my greatest players of all time. After the game, what we do, we go eat steaks, rice and beans and lobsters. And we. It was a family before the game. We stretch together. I get on the floor this like I'm all in.

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[Fat Joe]

But my shit. You know what's crazy? I went to Harvard yesterday and I gave a lecture. Thank you, Harvard. But one of the best parts of the movie Malcolm X is when some girl, some white girl come up to him and says, I understand my ancestors was wrong. I know we wrong. What can I do? He said, you can't do nothing for me, mama. Okay, I'm sorry. You know what I'm saying? One of the greatest point gods that ever live, the greatest handles ever created, was Bone Collector. And he came up to me one summer and we coming in the park and then we giving out the Terror Squad jersey. He says, joe, my whole life, I want to win a chip. Yo, Joe, Joe, Joe. He said, how can I join? I said, you, my friend, cannot join the team. He was like looking at me. He had the greatest handle in the universe. And I was like, you don't want to win a championship. You want individual achievement. And people didn't realize the rule was, once we up by 20, then play the game. Alley, you act stupid. But I want to win. I'm going in there to win. And do we play basic basketball till we blowing you out. Now we do the tricks. Know what I'm saying? Hey, buddy, they didn't understand that we walking up in there to win. We had blue collars. Tell me some of the big guys. We had DP the Beast. Remember the Beast? Oh, my God. BJ The Piece. Oh, my God, bj. He had abnormal strength and he didn't want no limelight. He didn't want nothing. Who's the Coastal? See Syracuse now? He played for us.

[Jadakiss]

Adrian Orchard.

[Fat Joe]

Adrian Autry never bothered nobody. He played his team. He threw the backpack on and took the train and got out of there. He never hung out. There's guys like that. Oh, what was my man? It was the Preacher. These are guys, you'll never say their name. We couldn't win these chips without these guys. These guys got all the rebounds, made the right block at the right time. And guy, you know, we had guys that went in there to really win who's like, yo, we gonna win a chip. It ain't just about the you know what I'm saying? And so, you know, we're gonna get to that. But it wasn't about that. And we, you know, good times. Wow. Derrick Rose, right? We had G herbo up here, young brother. You know, he's out there saying, well, you know, all these young dudes, my nephew is crazy out here, man. These guys are crazy. My daughter's crazy. G herbo said that Derrick Rose is better than Michael Jordan. He didn't really mean that. And so what? He's just saying, in his era, when he grew up, he watched him in high school.

[Jadakiss]

How you gonna say he didn't mean that? How you know what he meant?

[Fat Joe]

He didn't mean that. And so what I'm saying to you is that in his era of high school, he saw Derrick Rose in the street games. He saw him in high school. He grew. He's homegrown.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

And then he excelled to be the youngest mvp. How unfortunate was his injuries and how great of a player he was already a greater. I mean, even his last year, he scored like 51 somewhere, right?

[Joakim Noah]

When Derrick Rose in his prime, when he stepped onto the court, it was like the energy for the team. You know what it feel like when somebody pull up to the court and you're like, oh, we winning? Every time he was on the court, you felt like you had a chance you could win. I mean, we're not talking about the athleticism and all those things.

[Fat Joe]

Ooh, athleticism was out of control.

[Joakim Noah]

It was out of control. He was killer.

[Fat Joe]

D roll. Was. Must see tv, Must watch tv. Oh, shit.

[Joakim Noah]

And. But when the injury happened, it was like it was like somebody died, bro. Like, that's what it felt like. It was like, yo, we were winning the championship that year. There was no question in my mind. It was like we just lost to the Heat in the Eastern Conference the year before. We're young boys, and now it's. Now it's our fucking time. That's what it felt like. So when he got hurt, it was like, we didn't have a shot anymore.

[Fat Joe]

Damn.

[Joakim Noah]

Even talking about it now, it still hurt. It still hurt because it's like, it's the biggest what if, like, you know, it's like when you really want. When you care about. Like, I hear you talking about the Rucker, I was like, I see how passionate you are about the winning. He was all of that. He embodied all of that. And the way he embodied Chicago during that time, it was like. It was crazy, man. It was like, you know, Chicago is a crazy place. You Know, different. Like, we talk about street ball shit. You can't even do the street ball shit over there.

[Fat Joe]

They can't do it.

[Joakim Noah]

It's too violent. Kids are dying every day, you know. So what Derrick represented, coming from that and representing that and the way that he represented that every day on the court, these young kids were just like.

[Fat Joe]

He was a guy.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, yeah, it was all of that. And he's, like, humble, you know, it was like all that, he didn't. The way he carried himself through the fucking bright lights, you know, it was like. It was impressive. You know, I see a lot of guys get caught up in the lights, you know, like when the lights come, it's like, yo, you don't know how you caught. You lost in the sauce.

[Fat Joe]

That should be a new term you bring back and you recycle. Lost in the sauce. You guys are lost in the sauce.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, but the best man, best human. Fuck basketball. Like, in terms of brotherhood and the loyalty that he has for his people, the way he takes care of his people, like, man, shout out, pooh. Honestly, I'm impressed. I love people like you see it, like, when you go through adversity, you see who's a real motherfucker. And when motherfuckers have real success, you also see that shit too. You know what I'm saying? Like, can you. Can you have a humility about yourself when, you know, when you're around, when people look at you as great now when you young.

[Fat Joe]

I give every rapper a two year grace period, right? Because I asked little cocky Kai, who came here, he's a young boy that's on fire. And I said, yo, I know what it's like for people, regular people to know me. Yo, Fat Joey. And then the next day I got a. A hit. And they running like, yo, Fat Joe. Yo, yo, yo, yo. For me, it takes like two years to get off that cloud. And then we'll see who you truly are. Did you let the fame get to you? The money get to you? The success? You know, you don't know how many rappers I've seen come in humble, and two years later, they got a purple Yorkie dog with them and they start acting like they forgot the whole. So I give him two years because it takes two years. It takes two years for a girl who barely got men to all of a sudden be a sex symbol. And every guy they ever thought in the history of mankind is rapping to them every day at a club. And all that. It takes two years for all that shit to settle down. Soak in. Now. If you're an. You're an. If you're gas or you think who you are, you are who you are, or you come back to Earth and you pretty much who you are. So when you young, I could see people getting caught on that. But then you got to figure out life. Somebody gotta know what they talking about out there. That's. I give them a grace period, you know what I mean? Anybody who just come into money, come into fame, you know, they gotta get used to this new lifestyle of what's going on, you know? And if you full of shit, you full of shit. And we seem more full of shitters than you know. I always ask Angie, this Angie Martinez, one of my wife's best friends. She's always in the house. I'd be like, your Ang. Angie don't talk shit.

[Jadakiss]

Even though.

[Fat Joe]

Let me not. But I be asking Angel, Ange, what are the artists? Because she's in the radio. She watched them come for the first spin, and then they come by the next year, the next year, the next year. And I asked her quietly, beyond the scene, like, who are some artists? She like, joe, please. If you even start to believe the shit that I seen on the radio, of how people switched up and they get caught up in the fame, the lights, the money. But one thing that bugs me out about athletes, you the man. College, you the man. NBA. The crowd is screaming for you. You walk in. How hard is it as an athlete when you retire and you don't hear that no more? You know us, Patti LaBelle, I just seen her on TV. She's going on tour, 81 years old. Smokey Robinson and them, they still rocking. 80 years old, the artist. As long as you got a voice, God willing, you could keep going. The athlete is an expiration date.

[Jadakiss]

For real.

[Fat Joe]

And what does that feel like?

[Jadakiss]

No expiration.

[Fat Joe]

No, no. They got the paper. Oh, no.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, that's what you need.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, my neighbor in Miami is Jamal Mashburn. He ain't playing 50 years, he's up.

[Joakim Noah]

Oh.

[Fat Joe]

He walk around with his wife like, hi, Joe. Like, I'll be like, damn in there. Gotta have it.

[Joakim Noah]

You know?

[Fat Joe]

Of course, they up financially if they didn't blow the bag.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, well, it's more than the bag. The bag is definitely a piece of it. But it's true.

[Fat Joe]

You.

[Joakim Noah]

You're playing in front of 20,000 people, you know, for as long as you playing, and then all of a sudden when it's done, it's like, you don't get that no more ever. You're not. You're not the gladiator anymore. Your frequency as a competitor, like, who you are as a competitor, like, you gotta change. Like, I can't be like, yo, fuck that. Like, that's not. It's not that anymore. It's not. Fuck that team. Fuck that city. Like, we over here. We coming in. Like, it's not. It's.

[Fat Joe]

You gotta.

[Joakim Noah]

If I. If I live. If I live. If I live my life how I was as a competitor now, you be in trouble. I'd be in trouble. So I had to change my whole mindset knowing, like, okay, I'm not playing in those games anymore. Like, it's about bringing people together. And I. I'm really careful how I. Because with these. With these shorties, the way I talk about, like this generation, the game is different. The money is bigger. The expectations are bigger. The pressure is bigger. When you get dunked on, the whole world sees it on their phone.

[Fat Joe]

When I was playing bump into somebody with the Beijing on they shirt, his attics.

[Joakim Noah]

The whole world sees it.

[Fat Joe]

The whole world. Jaylen Brown. We working on them coming on the box rewinded 10. We're working right now as we speak. We're deliberating numbers right now. We need them on a new box box. That way he could have a brand he could trust. Rewind. The tennis. The Rolls Royce of hair coloring.

[Jadakiss]

I thought that was for beards, not for roofs. You got it?

[Fat Joe]

No, that's what. Yeah, we got the shit for the shop. We got beard and hair. What are you talking about? We got hair too. Travis Kelsey is here. We ain't got no bums on these box. But anyway. Jaylen Brown, welcome to the family. Jalen Brown, welcome to the family. Come on, man, let's make it happen, man.

[Jadakiss]

He better when y' all sign him. It should be when he white. It better be.

[Fat Joe]

No, it won't.

[Jadakiss]

It won't.

[Fat Joe]

It won't. Come on, bro, you know better than that. You put doing the show with me every day. Do I look like the come off my. The Rolls Royce?

[Joakim Noah]

My bad.

[Jadakiss]

Your is right.

[Fat Joe]

Joe came. I'm be honest. You're the first person with the ringer went off in six episodes.

[Jadakiss]

My bad.

[Joakim Noah]

My bad's up. I'm gonna turn this off, right?

[Fat Joe]

Gotta be some friends or something. You got a new show coming up. Tell us about it.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, man, I'm. I'm really proud of this. Like, you know, first I want to thank the Knicks because without the Knicks, I'm in a position now where if it doesn't get me crunk. I'm not fucking with it. Like, if it doesn't get me hype, I'm not doing it. And that's a blessing to be able to say no. Man, I don't know how to blessing to say no. So shout out to the Knicks.

[Fat Joe]

Me and J. Jada's still doing the chitlin circuit. We, we. You can't say no. Our families want to spend money like a. They selling them boots that don't fit all kind of shit. We'll be at a bar in Alabama for you right quick.

[Joakim Noah]

So, yeah, shout out to the Knicks. Shout out to the guys like, you know, the guys who got it done last year.

[Fat Joe]

Like, what's the show? Tell me the show.

[Joakim Noah]

No, but I want to thank. Thank the Knicks first for getting this shit done. Because now I can walk around New York more comfortably. There was a time when I was walking around the city, you know, people thought I was stealing money every time.

[Fat Joe]

I walked in the street.

[Joakim Noah]

Now the Knicks are good. I could come home again comfortably. So I want to give a shout out to the guys before we talk about the show. But right now, I'm starting a travel show called Nomad. I'm hype as hell. I get to travel.

[Fat Joe]

Knicks gave you this show?

[Joakim Noah]

No, the Knicks didn't give me the show. But I just wanted to give a shout out to the Knicks first before. The show is Nomad. The show is Nomad. I'm working with a media company called NBA Take Two. And we started in Chicago, then we went to Morocco, and we're using as Casablanca.

[Fat Joe]

Makaresh.

[Joakim Noah]

Oh, okay. No, it was Casablanca. Rabot.

[Fat Joe]

You didn't meet the little man.

[Joakim Noah]

You were talking about the man like.

[Fat Joe]

This that you up on your show. I ain't saying you should have went and found the little man.

[Joakim Noah]

I heard you talking about him before.

[Fat Joe]

I swear to God. My God, you should have went to Makares. Put the little guy on the show. You don't want every award in the world, man.

[Joakim Noah]

Oh, man.

[Fat Joe]

Man, this be bigger than him. He like, in the box of Rewind, he looked like he ducking in Marrakesh. Ask French Montana.

[Joakim Noah]

Yo, that's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

French Montana. The little guy, you up. They should have already known you going to Morocco. Go find the little guy.

[Joakim Noah]

Now. We found. We found a rapper, El Grande. Toto. Shout out to my main man, Toto, man. We went to Casablanca. We went to his hood. He showed us a great time. Like, this guy's like, you got the.

[Fat Joe]

Guys that do this and like, for like hours.

[Joakim Noah]

The snakes. The snakes like this.

[Fat Joe]

While you eating the. Just going like this. And he got some in his head.

[Joakim Noah]

Morocco hours.

[Fat Joe]

You been there, yo hours you eat in. Let me get the head Angus there for like five hours, he's just going like this. His dizzy like a. Like he don't get dizzy.

[Joakim Noah]

That's the best people, man. Best the people over there. Awesome. But we just went before Hurricane Melissa.

[Fat Joe]

We.

[Joakim Noah]

We were just in. In Jamaica with Rohan and we just.

[Fat Joe]

Brother lying.

[Joakim Noah]

Order, lion order and the house.

[Fat Joe]

You know, Rohan, Molly, you know Raha. Molly's my man, my guy. Rohan, Molly has been. Damn if I could have said what I really was going to say. I'm getting the flag. But Rohan Marley has gotten to the bag in the same places of fat say. They say behind door number one, you know, they doing business. They handing out bags. When I open the door, Rohan's in there already and be like, hey, Fat Joey, start smiling like we done hit the same plugs up up a million times everywhere I go. Yo, Rohan. Yeah, Joe, I'm over here too. So Rohan's a hustler. So he took you to Jamaica?

[Joakim Noah]

He took me to Jamaica. Like, talk about ghetto royalty, you know, I mean, that name, you know, I mean, look, at the end of the day, what Bob Marley did for the world, man, is just.

[Fat Joe]

And what the Marleys do for the world and what the. They were feeding they people for years and years and years. And ears they could trust. The Marleys I get. I guarantee you right now with this hurricane, they doing a lot out. Them guys don't never stop giving the people. I don't know how they run out such beautiful people, man. They for their people, man. I trust them with, With. With my life. The Marleys, I just got to keep it real with you. And I'm not their best friend. I'm not with them all the time. But them people stand for something.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, they do.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? They righteous. They stand for something. And you got to salute them for what they do for their people. So you went out there, you know.

[Joakim Noah]

Just like for Rohan. And Stephen was out there too, going to Hope Road, where Bob bought his house. You know, when he started making the records, we went to Trenchtown where he grew up. We were up in Nine Mile where he's buried. Shout out Uncle Rich for making all that possible for us. But just to, you know, so much of that music just gave me so much power while I was playing, you know what I'm saying? It was obviously like hip Hop New York. But there was also that part like the Rasta Bob Marley. So I wanted to just, you know, show that. And Rohan just opened so many doors and just so many cool, really interesting interviews. I got to interview Bob's lawyer. You know what I mean? Just like, great conversations. So, yo, check out my show, Nomad.

[Fat Joe]

Where's it available at?

[Joakim Noah]

It's going to be on YouTube. You know, we're gonna have. We're gonna have. It starts. We launching next week. So, yeah, check me out, man.

[Fat Joe]

You know, I sampled Bob Marley one time, and he was not clearing the sample. And you know me, I send the yard man, the roster, DJ Khaled to the Bali complex. So the roster go there. He smoked blunts with them for like eight hours. And he think they don't know why he's there. And they turn around at the eighth hour, be like, so, yeah, come here for the big man, you know, for the clearance, kind of tell him we clear. It went over there. I see Yo Cali came back so high. I said, yo, Cali, he was so high. He was with him for eight hours smoking Bob Marley's. Today. They going. And they told him at the eighth hour, they look at someone. Know what you're here for, star. You win the clearance for the big month. You tell them, we love Fat Joe. We love him. We're going to clear it for you, Cali. Don't worry. We know why you're here. When he get up out of there, these people, great people, man.

[Jadakiss]

And.

[Fat Joe]

And you got that?

[Joakim Noah]

I got that, man.

[Fat Joe]

I watched that movie on Bob Marley a couple of times. I went to the movie theater like two, three times to see that. But I'm gonna. I'm looking forward to your show. I love shows like that. You know my man who died, Michael Kor. Oh, no, that Bourdain, too. Michael K with the skull.

[Joakim Noah]

Yes. Huh? Omar.

[Fat Joe]

Omar. But what's his real name?

[Jadakiss]

Michael Williams.

[Joakim Noah]

Michael.

[Fat Joe]

Michael K. He had a show like that, too that was really, really dop. I like that because, you know, I watched this, brother. I. I really got to get your name. I've watched you. I know you don't know, but Fat Joe watches you all the time. It's a show on YouTube where the man go to Africa, he go to Cuba, he go to Columbia. I'm learning so much about the world watching this dude, black brother, he goes abroad and there's a whole black community in Colombia. The all African, Spanish speaking. And he up in there, the Choco. He in Cuba, he in Cape Verde.

[Joakim Noah]

That's beautiful.

[Fat Joe]

He in Puerto Rico. He is Santo Domingo. This guy go all over and I watch him to learn the real. Like they go into the town and they not just glorifying the bad or the this, they just showing you what it is. I mean, they come with a juice. Yo, this is a juice from here. This is the meal from over here. And this. And I learned so much from this guy on YouTube. I'm gonna find out his name because I. I said to myself, I gotta big this guy up. Not that he needs me because he's doing great on there. But I love watching like that and learning. I might go to Cape Verde now because I seen that episode and it was such beautiful water and beautiful flowers. You know, I'm into the flowers of the water and everything, but that's his name. Kamori Martin is his name. You sure I got the right one? Show me his picture. I don't want to get the wrong. Wrong guy props because there's a lot of them.

[Joakim Noah]

I didn't know that Omar had a show like that.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, yeah, he did. And he was almost like, what's that channel? Nah, this ain't the guy I'm talking about. Nah, it was a different guy. This ain't the guy. My guy ain't got no money like this. This guy got fancy suits and all that. My guy's a regular guy, nine to fiver. He go out there and he make it happen. He ain't the one. Shout out Hard Rock Bet you want to bet on the games and all that. NBA predictions this year, you jump out the window.

[Jadakiss]

Future. Who do you think going to take the East? Who you think going to take the West? Who going to win the chips? Rookie of the year defensive. Just.

[Joakim Noah]

Just early, you know, it's still all right. So East. The Knicks. The Knicks got to take it this year. They got to take the East.

[Jadakiss]

We love. We ain't disagreeing with that one, baby.

[Joakim Noah]

Got to take the Knicks. Got to take it. This is the year. But you know, boom.

[Jadakiss]

Who say no more.

[Joakim Noah]

I'm which who so. And then in the West. The west is tricky, but I think it's still early. I like the Rockets. Amen, Todd. It's too bad that that point guard, Van Fleet. Fred. Fred, Van Clee got hurt.

[Fat Joe]

Cleave, yo.

[Jadakiss]

He called him Van Cleef. Crucial.

[Fat Joe]

Nice, Van Cleef, yo. Nah, what's his name? Yo, what's his name? The light skinned dude from up in Toronto. Close enough. God damn it. Van Cleef and Van Fleet. Same.

[Joakim Noah]

He's a hell of a player.

[Jadakiss]

My dog, man.

[Fat Joe]

Van Fleet and Van Cleef is the same.

[Joakim Noah]

That's up.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, that's.

[Fat Joe]

He won the chip in Toronto. He's a very great player. But finally. Finally, Kevin Durant is making a difference. Finally, they put it. Yeah. No, he went on a team. He won a chip for free over there at Golden State. Katie.

[Jadakiss]

Ever since then, we got nothing to.

[Fat Joe]

Do with telling you the truth.

[Jadakiss]

He's gonna kill.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, listen. It don't matter to me.

[Jadakiss]

Nothing to do with this. He finally climbing. I like.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not. He reached. Listen, he reached. He fits in that system. He went to Phoenix, stunk it up to all them places. I'm keeping it a buck with you. But finally the chemistry. He was the right piece. I'm not saying he ain't one of the greatest of all time. I'm just talking about.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Fitting in with a system right now.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

He looking like a superstar with that. But they picked the right guy for that system. OKC and Denver to me out the West. Somebody one of these twos coming out the West. That's it. Nobody. They ain't beating them. At the end of the day, that towel be over their head and they'll walk out the tunnel like they always do. But MVP prediction. My MVP of the NBA for the next four to five years is called Wimba Yamba. If Wimberyama doesn't get hurt.

[Joakim Noah]

It's a rap.

[Fat Joe]

It is a rap.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah. Just give them all the awards.

[Fat Joe]

Give them everything. Wimba Yamba. You see this guy? Yo, yo, Butter. Seven. Seven. You missed. What? You came late. Now he's punching. This guy's coming like, holy shit. He's over here. And it's all. By the way. Somebody's trying to score. He smack his shit. This guy. It's his league.

[Joakim Noah]

It's his league.

[Fat Joe]

There's nobody else. Nobody.

[Jadakiss]

Get a little bit stronger.

[Fat Joe]

Win beyond by mvp. New York Knicks championship. Who else we talking about? Rookie of the Year. Gotta be if he plays.

[Jadakiss]

He actually his predictions how you took his hits.

[Fat Joe]

I'm sorry. He said the Knicks. Who else?

[Joakim Noah]

What's the question?

[Fat Joe]

Question is who you think's gonna win the chip? Who's coming out the West? What? You said Houston.

[Joakim Noah]

I said Houston.

[Fat Joe]

Who's MVP of the league?

[Joakim Noah]

League 1B. I'm with you. That what he did?

[Fat Joe]

Was you on drugs? I'm not on you. Who's your mvp? Tell me now. Who's your MVP of the. Of the league? Luca. Oh, Luca.

[Jadakiss]

Luca.

[Fat Joe]

He ain't winning.

[Jadakiss]

Neither is with me. Look at the numbers, though.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, yo.

[Jadakiss]

What? Look at these numbers.

[Joakim Noah]

Luca. Looking good.

[Fat Joe]

Let me check. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. Because the biggest shit, the Euphonym, okay?

[Jadakiss]

They going back that up, all right? Now, the youth, they stay out of.

[Fat Joe]

That area, dog, you're not listening to me. The Euphonym last couple of years was saying Michael Jordan ain't the greatest. He was playing against white boys.

[Jadakiss]

I didn't hear that.

[Fat Joe]

I heard that he played against what's called Malone. The white boy. Stockton did this. The biggest shit they saying in the hood is he was playing against white boys. They try to act like Larry Bird wasn't. Wasn't white. He wasn't good.

[Joakim Noah]

He was.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you. Yo, kiss you outside. Outside. You should know this.

[Jadakiss]

Say the truth.

[Fat Joe]

They say that MJ wasn't the greatest because he played against white. Right? Now they got white busting they ass Dizzy on TV every day. The Joker. Luca, you know the move. Every time you fight them are white.

[Joakim Noah]

That's a different white. That's not. We're not talking about all American. No, no, no. That's a different way.

[Jadakiss]

It's not the same white.

[Joakim Noah]

Serbian.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Eat now.

[Fat Joe]

Now we got different white people.

[Joakim Noah]

Very. We got very different whites.

[Fat Joe]

There's Confederate out of here. All of them shits got a different white.

[Jadakiss]

They ain't this.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, bro.

[Jadakiss]

For you to go around the world and don't know that is killing me.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about where they have the. The white people. What I've been hearing in the hood, yo, mj, the greatest in all time, he used to play white boys. He used to just. You gotta stop thinking. You ain't hear that.

[Jadakiss]

I didn't hear.

[Fat Joe]

You know that. So I heard that. My. I owe that every day, by the way. I'm in the studio every day with 20 haters. These guys are telling that all the time. I cool now. I'm looking at tv. You just call Luca the mpp. If it ain't Luca, I ain't called him, all right? MVP's a white boy. I don't know if he's from Yugoslavia, Serbia or whatever. I'm looking at a white boy balling. When I look at Joker, he's a white boy ballin. I don't give a if he's from Texas, the middle America, whatever. He's a white boy. They are telling me that Michael Jordan is not the greatest of all time because he was busting white boy's. Ass. Not pause.

[Jadakiss]

I wasn't there. I didn't. I never heard.

[Fat Joe]

I heard it.

[Jadakiss]

It's even the youth said they didn't see him or something like that. So Bron and Colbin this and that. I never heard. They said he wasn't nice because he played against white people. That don't even make sense.

[Fat Joe]

Oh no, I've heard that Stockton and.

[Jadakiss]

Some of them white people and some of the nicest white niggas ever played.

[Joakim Noah]

Kerr.

[Jadakiss]

Kerr was on his team.

[Fat Joe]

Horny Hornisette.

[Joakim Noah]

Corny.

[Jadakiss]

Horny.

[Fat Joe]

Corny. Horny was nice.

[Joakim Noah]

He was nice.

[Fat Joe]

Kerr, what was my man on Chicago? The boy. That boy was not Paxton. Paxton was nice, but no. What's the other guy? Tony. Tony Kuko.

[Jadakiss]

He's a regular white guy too, right?

[Fat Joe]

I never said the white ain't nice. You talking to the wrong guy. I'm telling you what they talk about. I'm not talking about what. I'm not saying. Barber shop is saying.

[Jadakiss]

I never studies clap.

[Joakim Noah]

Serbia. Serbia. That's a different Serbia.

[Jadakiss]

That's a.

[Joakim Noah]

That's a different way. Croatia. That's a different. They've been through some shit over there.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, you ever met the Hong Kong's Mongolia.

[Joakim Noah]

Man?

[Fat Joe]

You talk about the wrong guy. I've been all over the globe. I know what you're talking about. I'm just telling you. All right, let's talk rookie of the year. I'm giving it to the white boy if he ball like he's supposed to. Cooper. Cooper, who you giving it to?

[Jadakiss]

V.J. edgecombe doing work. He ain't getting the same kind of publicity, but he's dominating right now.

[Joakim Noah]

He's nice, but I like. I like the Cooper. I like cool.

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[Fat Joe]

DJ Khaled had a rule. DJ Khaled was already rich and he DJ on the thing in the radio. I don't give a. If he had the flu, the mumps. The what? He would not take a day off DJing because he always told me, yo, there's somebody more hungry than me. He said, somebody gonna come out here and DJ so crazy and they're gonna take my slot. And LeBron caught a little sciatica and let Reeves and them boys go. And them niggas out here scoring 51.

[Joakim Noah]

Damn this.

[Fat Joe]

What do y' all want me to know? This is why this is the number one podcast. We don't hide this LeBron up. I. I am telling you, he might be on the trading block now without him knowing. Okay? You don't think so? They're not doing that. Jada. Jada. Okay, okay. No. Okay. Can I speak my piece?

[Joakim Noah]

Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Fat Joe]

Can I speak my piece?

[Joakim Noah]

Of course.

[Fat Joe]

Can I speak. No, no. Hans on the trading block.

[Jadakiss]

I ain't on no damn trading block, dog. He ain't never getting tried.

[Fat Joe]

Let these guys go. Who's getting $2, right?

[Jadakiss]

Never getting traded.

[Fat Joe]

Can I say something? They just.

[Jadakiss]

They're next week.

[Fat Joe]

All right?

[Jadakiss]

So what if that same is cool?

[Fat Joe]

I'm gonna tell them in the street. You think I'm scared of Rich Paul crazy.

[Jadakiss]

It's about saying something stupid. His bronze.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not saying nothing stupid. I'm telling you now. I'mma ask him because they said he.

[Jadakiss]

Was on the training.

[Fat Joe]

LeBron F. LeBron took a couple of days off and we. Did you know that Austin reed could score 51 points and 40 points a game? Did you know? You've been watching all the games. Did you know? Well, hello. We know now.

[Joakim Noah]

So you rather have.

[Fat Joe]

LeBron is turning 40 years old. So you think they'd rather lose with LeBron just to have LeBron? Cause then LeBron come and try to take the game over. It's a rap. Same old Lakers. This they running right now. It's a new Lakers.

[Jadakiss]

Can I speak?

[Fat Joe]

Don't come in there.

[Joakim Noah]

It's eight games.

[Jadakiss]

What Brian is in right now is one of the teams when he wins the chip. You don't got to do that much. You don't got to do.

[Fat Joe]

Was doing everything when he was winning the show.

[Jadakiss]

What change? You was watching five people. No, that's young LeBron. I'm talking after he Scott with Wade and Bosh and Everybody else, he gets the teams where he can save his gears to the playoffs. They can hold it like they're doing now. They need. When they engage, it's something you can't.

[Fat Joe]

Fat Joe early prediction shoot me. Whatever the comments up this, this, that LeBron James is getting traded by the LA Lakers. Soon as he go.

[Jadakiss]

Out there and it up, you better get that boy gone. He's gone. His phone is gonna catch on fire.

[Fat Joe]

He's gone, brother. He showed it, bro.

[Jadakiss]

I don't got nothing to do with. Yo, listen, I love you mad, listen. He let the chin out everybody. I don't got nothing to do with.

[Fat Joe]

He spoke this chin out.

[Jadakiss]

He ain't getting tricky.

[Fat Joe]

He spoke this gym out. They gonna, you know, Marlon Brando gonna come back from the death and. And all them Jack Nicholson's and all them guys and they're gonna be like, yo, we don't. I'm trying to tell you, let them sit out of two more weeks and let them kids keep scoring 50 something come back in the game and them are scoring 12 points running around behind Braun and keep losing. They're not doing that.

[Jadakiss]

Five games to 82 games is a big difference.

[Fat Joe]

The Knicks traded Patrick Ewing. Chicago Bulls traded Scotty.

[Jadakiss]

Not Michael Jordan.

[Fat Joe]

Michael Jordan went to Washington. These teams, it was something. This is awesome.

[Jadakiss]

Listen, if it's something crazy. You bugging, dog. You tweaking right now.

[Fat Joe]

If it's something the NBA has taught you, it is zero to no loyalty.

[Jadakiss]

Who haven't been watching? When it's your time, it's the NBA. And then there's LeBron. Have you been watching?

[Fat Joe]

That's what you thinking?

[Jadakiss]

All right.

[Fat Joe]

And I'm trying to tell you.

[Jadakiss]

You act like you haven't been watching what he's doing.

[Fat Joe]

That's what you thinking.

[Jadakiss]

Can you answer my question?

[Fat Joe]

That's what you think.

[Jadakiss]

Was it. What the. How powerful is he thus far to say little sciatica. How powerful has he been?

[Fat Joe]

Not no more. I'm telling you right now. They put the young boys on to get on the floor. All right.

[Jadakiss]

He can get Austin Reeves out of here right now.

[Fat Joe]

No, he can't.

[Joakim Noah]

Can't.

[Jadakiss]

I bet you.

[Fat Joe]

No, he can't. Not no more. Sorry, sorry. Not right now, baby. Not right now, baby. I'm a LeBron.

[Jadakiss]

You don't see that white lady. Touching Austin Reed.

[Fat Joe]

Breaking news, breaking news. It ain't words no more. It ain't words no more. All right.

[Jadakiss]

Something years, okay? He got 20 years of being great.

[Fat Joe]

No matter. They don't just get fit that Joe sold millions of records. Walked in Atlantic one day. They took the poster down and it was TI. You got it.

[Jadakiss]

They still didn't take his post in that.

[Fat Joe]

You got this up. Your day comes, you bug. He poked his cheek.

[Jadakiss]

He got the most points. He passed Kareem.

[Joakim Noah]

Okay?

[Jadakiss]

That's all I'm gonna tell. They ain't gonna die. Disrespectful.

[Fat Joe]

18 more games. 20 more. Yo, we talking about the viral. Okay. Two time to fella. I know how the go up. Stop. I know how this go.

[Jadakiss]

Let them roll. Cause they gonna fry after this one anyway. Two time tell. Let them.

[Fat Joe]

I know. I know how it go.

[Jadakiss]

Killed don't stop me in the middle.

[Fat Joe]

Of a process of elimination. These guys are scared.

[Jadakiss]

Get the gizzards out of this when this comes on.

[Fat Joe]

Yo time. It came a time. I'm not crazy.

[Jadakiss]

You are crazy.

[Fat Joe]

K. I was 21 years old, about 22. I walked in the Apollo Theater. I got a rope chain on. Hold up. I walked in the Apollo Theater. I got a rope chain on. Pause. I see a guy from the back, his neck is this big. He turned around and I said, holy, that's Mike Tyson. He's tired, Mike. Six years later, Kenneth Jolson Johnson was knocking them out. Ain't the same. I. What I'm trying to tell you. Don't get paid 20, 25 for what you did in 2022. 18 or 19 or whatever. Rich. You a die hard Laker fan.

[Jadakiss]

Rich.

[Fat Joe]

If LeBron comes in. Hold up. If LeBron. You don't actually. Most loyal fan.

[Jadakiss]

Let me tweak it.

[Fat Joe]

You're a Dallas fan. After they, you know, not so good. Let me ask you a question.

[Jadakiss]

Hello.

[Fat Joe]

LeBron comes in at 20. They keep going 20 games. Austin Reed, 51. The other dudes playing. They playing, playing. LeBron come back and start that pick. And y' all start. Y' all keep losing and. And.

[Joakim Noah]

And.

[Fat Joe]

And y' all can't do it no more. It's the old LeBron. Yo, we gotta understand this.

[Jadakiss]

This coach gonna trade it. He got the coach.

[Fat Joe]

He.

[Jadakiss]

He picked the coach. Who's gonna trade him?

[Fat Joe]

It's a new day.

[Jadakiss]

Who the gonna trade him, Rich? They ain't gonna trade.

[Joakim Noah]

He didn't even play yet. Let him play.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

He didn't even play a game. He got him trade. He put him on the block. He didn't even see what he's gonna do.

[Joakim Noah]

It's not even the first quarter.

[Fat Joe]

They traded everybody in history.

[Jadakiss]

Trade LeBron.

[Fat Joe]

Okay.

[Jadakiss]

They didn't trade Jordan. They didn't trade Kobe. It's mad.

[Joakim Noah]

They didn't trade.

[Fat Joe]

LeBron ain't a Lakers. When LeBron hangs it up, it goes back to Akron. He ain't a Laker like Kobe when it's all said and done. That Raptor, that shit going up in Cleveland. They ain't going up in the Lakers.

[Jadakiss]

At other cities, dog. He's LeBron. He did something nobody did, business wise, all of that. They're not gonna trade.

[Fat Joe]

God bless LeBron. I did a show with him on Stars. He gave me the opportunity. You're a legend.

[Jadakiss]

He can't even trade. He can't get traded.

[Fat Joe]

You saying that with one boot on.

[Jadakiss]

Get traded. Pull out on two top fellas, can he get. Yeah. What are you talking about? He's on a traded, okay. He can't get traded. He can't get traded.

[Fat Joe]

He protected himself.

[Jadakiss]

He can't get traded Good. How about that?

[Fat Joe]

Man, they really mad now. I'm Lak, Genie Bus. Genie Bus. Looking at this peony boss like, yo, this is crazy. We can't trade him for the 51ers.

[Jadakiss]

You gotta do 50 oneers for years.

[Fat Joe]

You just better know Austin Reeves.

[Jadakiss]

You already making Austin Reeves learn from Jadakiss.

[Fat Joe]

Yesterday's price is not today's price.

[Jadakiss]

Austin, Yesterday's price is not today's price. It's doing great, man. Let's talk about the Noah's Ark Foundation.

[Joakim Noah]

No, no, no, no. Y' all can't get hyped like this. And now we gonna talk about foundation like that. I'm not coming in talking about foundation after this debate. I'm just happy to be here. I don't want to talk about. I don't want to talk about charity. I don't want to talk about charity. This is. I'm. I'm listening. This is all.

[Jadakiss]

This is awesome.

[Joakim Noah]

I can't. I thought I came on a podcast, but I love this.

[Fat Joe]

Like, I love this.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, I love this. You know, I. I didn't realize it was going to get like this.

[Fat Joe]

I didn't.

[Joakim Noah]

I didn't realize how passionate it was about basketball. Like, holy.

[Fat Joe]

You guys are in it. We really passionate about this. And with that being said, this ain't that.

[Jadakiss]

That ain't this cracking kiss.

[Fat Joe]

God damn it.

[Jadakiss]

Make some noise for our brother, Joe King.

[Joakim Noah]

No.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Hey, Butter. Come here. Hey, Butter. I talk about all the time. Hey, Butter, tell him about your book.

[Joakim Noah]

Hey, Butter.

[Fat Joe]

Right here, right here, right here, right here. You know, he from all them. When he come up with the pink sweatshirt. I love you to death. Saint. Yo, don't turn nothing off. Tell them your book.

[Joakim Noah]

Go ahead, buddy.

[Fat Joe]

Butter, tell them whether you can find it. No, no, you need the mic. I like that.

[Joakim Noah]

A whole lot of games.

[Fat Joe]

Love, brother. Always, man. Thank you.

[Joakim Noah]

Always.

[Jadakiss]

You know that.

[Fat Joe]

Quick. Hey, Butter is in the building. Harlem Terror Squad's own. Shout out to Tony Rosa. He let us borrow him.

[Joakim Noah]

Yes, sir.

[Fat Joe]

Tell us about your book.

[Joakim Noah]

I got a book out right now called the Whole Lot of Game. Trying to put the kids on in the next generation on how to, you know, transition and look at entrepreneurship and financial literacy in a different way.

[Fat Joe]

Who's the guys you connected with on the financial li.

[Jadakiss]

Literacy on our block?

[Joakim Noah]

Mocha Fi Bank. Yeah, I'm tapped in with them and we some good different things within the community. So, you know, they.

[Fat Joe]

Butter from player to player, from young kid right now will be the next hottest in the. In the city. This and this and that or all around. Give me one. One thing you could tell them not to do to get into the NBA. What should they avoid to get into the NBA? Because you're the one guy I always go to that I say, should have been in the NBA but didn't make it to the NBA because, you know, you was a star in Harlem like, you was in the NBA. In Harlem, all the girls want you, everybody with you, camera on your cousin, this, this, that. What bit of advice would you give some kids coming up in the game that got a lot of potential to get to the NBA? What they shouldn't do, what they shouldn't.

[Joakim Noah]

Do is focus on what others are saying. Stay true to yourself. You know what I'm saying? Continue to learn, be more of a listener. That was one of my mistakes when I was young. I didn't really listen too much. So as you get older, you don't want to sit back and say, oh, if I would have knew this. Nah, be honest. You wasn't listening. Accountability, you know what I mean? That's really like a big main thing for me to help the next generation and spread that word about just being accountable. When you start to be accountable and you'll grow.

[Jadakiss]

Facts.

[Fat Joe]

Richie Parker. Richie Parker. Nah, nah. Richie Parker should have been the NBA. Kareem Reed, we went and got him a tryout with the Knicks. Yeah, they don't know. I took a guy off the street, but pulled him in with Isaiah Thomas, gave him a trial. Isaiah said, man, this guy came in smelling like blunts. We can't do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, NBA, different difference. The man I just told you. Tony Parker ate a bean for breakfast, bro, like he was eating asparagus for lunch. Kareem Reed coming off of Harlem. And, yeah, you the man in Harlem, but when they running them drills in the Garden, it's different.

[Joakim Noah]

Yo, I don't know if you remember, but Kiss, he had Rough Riders. He had the first father and son that we ever seen, which was Steve Burt Senior and Steve Bird Jr legends up.

[Jadakiss]

You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

Hey, yeah, stick to the verses. Don't talk about coaching at the Rucker.

[Jadakiss]

Be.

[Fat Joe]

Stick to the verses. Stick to verses. Don't talk about the.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, he definitely. You had Jamal Tinsley. I got to give you your props, you know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

Paul Tinsley was dead nice.

[Jadakiss]

Slow to him, brother.

[Joakim Noah]

Serious satellite shout out to Kenny Satterfield.

[Fat Joe]

What's my, man? We had the best of the city, but he did have some dogs. I gotta keep it real. Hey, Butter, the other day, I forgot his name, and I don't want to get killed, but the other day, I'm at the Knick game, and they playing Cleveland. And one of the guys that used to play at the Rucker is the assistant coach, Omar Cook. Omar.

[Jadakiss]

Personnel.

[Joakim Noah]

Cook.

[Fat Joe]

Holy shit. Let me tell you something. I grabbed him. This is not a mistake. Like, listen to me joking. I watched him in the streets, and.

[Jadakiss]

He see you don't know his name, he gonna be mad.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, I'm fried. Know. I'm talk. I'm fried. I don't remember my name. I'm keeping it real with you. When this man came up to say what's up to Fat Joe, I almost cried, bro. I looked at him and I said. I said, you the coach? He said, yo, I'm the coach, Coach. I was like, congratulations, man. God bless you, man. Like, I can't believe it. It's Omar Cook. And I went. I told my wife. I told a hundred people that day. I was like, yo, this kid used to play at the Rucker. I can't believe I don't know his name. I knew you would know his name. I should have called you ahead of time so I don't look stupid.

[Joakim Noah]

You got sham God he's doing with Orlando.

[Fat Joe]

I don't know if I'm big enough.

[Joakim Noah]

You got Royale Ivy, you know what I mean? He's always been coaching. Assistant coaching.

[Fat Joe]

He was.

[Jadakiss]

He was in the Nets coaching, you.

[Joakim Noah]

Know what I mean? Or Royale Ivy. He used to play with a Cardoza, went to Texas, you know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

Rosen.

[Joakim Noah]

One of the greatest coaches always shout out Tony Rosen.

[Jadakiss]

Always.

[Fat Joe]

But hold up, hold up.

[Joakim Noah]

Always.

[Fat Joe]

Tony Rosen, one of the greatest coaches. But Tony Rosa, who somebody I respect too much for coaching. The day we put a Terror Squad uniform on a butter. He was the Indian man crying when the TV came off them. He had another one. Is another Spanish. That was with Tony. Oh my God. When he walked in. I worked on him all winter. Took him to Miami. Drop top Bentley, steaks and lobsters, whatever you want. What this I work. Because he used to kill us. He was the Terror Squad killer. I mean, we went triple four overtops.

[Joakim Noah]

To the lights came and Stephen BMF was throwing money out the helicopter at his pool party. Just to reiterate on what he was saying.

[Fat Joe]

They hugged me for vote, you know, I said, I started Memorial Weekend, yo, they called me up. I got death threats from the Jamaican and the mafia. They called me up, said, bata Fuko was with you, Joel, you erase a man history. I said, no, but if you go, thank you for being one of the biggest promoters. We did Memorial Weekend together. But you, you seen some shit out there when. But, but what I'm saying is the day that part. Cuz he was the Terror Squad killer. The day he walked in with that jersey. Tony Rosa couldn't believe it. Because he coached you since what, high school?

[Joakim Noah]

Since I was like 14, 15. I used to play for the Shout out to the Mustang.

[Fat Joe]

And I love, love, love Tony Rosa. And I wasn't happy about it, but I couldn't. This guy was going to beat us. I was gonna.

[Joakim Noah]

He was really the only coach, you.

[Fat Joe]

Know what I mean?

[Joakim Noah]

If we being honest, it was a lot of y', all, you know what I mean? But he was the real coach out there.

[Fat Joe]

I had to buy him out. I had to bring him. He was killing us. He going up against Stephon Mulberry. Three pointer, three pointer, three pointer, three pointer, three pointer, three pointer, three. I said, bro, Joe, if you can't beat him, join him. You gotta join a butter Terror Squad. Joined a butter. I had to get that man off the market.

[Joakim Noah]

Yeah, he had a team out there too. I don't know if you remember him.

[Fat Joe]

Hell yeah.

[Joakim Noah]

He had Andre Barrett. And all of them just shout out to them. They're assistant coaches, you know what I mean? They out there.

[Fat Joe]

I thought, oh, it should have really, really went. Now he was there. But I mean, like really, you want to know what happened to Andre Barrett? Barrett, Because I'm a huge Andre Barrett fan. He didn't do him. So he came in the league. And he was doing what they told him to do. Pass the ball, this, this, that. I was waiting for him to do him. And so he was such a company guy brought him in. But he never did him. And if he would have did him, he would have had a longer career in the NBA. How proud of us was the. Just skip to my Lou. Skip to my Lou. Caught a check too, huh? He caught a real check. We're in Houston.

[Joakim Noah]

Houston.

[Fat Joe]

Skip is probably the greatest story straight out of ruck in rucker history and street ball history. He's the one guy that I seen doing it. Remember the year we had Skip? He came and played.

[Joakim Noah]

That's when he won the championship again.

[Fat Joe]

Three other guys I gotta go up against to make sure I play look out. And Skip was like that crowd could. And he passed it to Steph. And Steph used to do that where he go low and do some. It was almost like Matrix. Remember that?

[Joakim Noah]

The way he used to do.

[Fat Joe]

So that's how he used to come in. Then they pass it to ring room. Do the circle up like. It was just too much. It's too much. It was like Camelot. My royalty.

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[Fat Joe]

We had too many. One day we put Steph on with AI out there.

[Joakim Noah]

They was killed.

[Fat Joe]

One day we had a game with step on the AI. They were the two best.

[Joakim Noah]

Thompson Shout out the natural controller. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

I gotta make sure.

[Joakim Noah]

Rest in peace to Greg Marius and Ali Mo man.

[Jadakiss]

Greg.

[Fat Joe]

Marriage a man. A man of honor. We can't talk bad in the Roc Nation building. But anybody else would have found a way to give that game to Jay Z and. And Roc Nation or cancel it it or this. The man said, yo Fat Joe and them 1. That took a lot of heart for that man to say that. You know what I'm saying? So shout out Greg Maris. I also went when he was. He was passing away.

[Joakim Noah]

He was there.

[Fat Joe]

I went. I went to the hospital. He requested me to go there and man, what a good man, bro. What a great man. Greg, Marius and the whole family. Peace, y'. All. This ain't that.

[Jadakiss]

That ain't.

[Fat Joe]

This is a butter and cracking kiss.

[Jadakiss]

Let's go put the music for MASH on right now.

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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