Joe and Jada - The Game, Fat Joe & Jadakiss talk 50 Cent beefs, Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake & more (PART 1)

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Episode: Joe and Jada - The Game, Fat Joe & Jadakiss talk 50 Cent beefs, Kendrick vs. Drake & More (PART 1)

Date: February 24, 2026

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Overview

This lively episode features a roundtable of hip-hop icons—Fat Joe, Jadakiss, The Game, and special guest D1—delving deep into the culture, their storied careers, legendary beefs (notably with 50 Cent), loyalty, the East Coast/West Coast dynamic, hip-hop's evolution, and personal memories. The dialogue is raw, unscripted, frequently comedic, and rich with nostalgia, real talk, and storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Introductions and the Power of Hip-Hop

• 00:15 – 01:43:
  • Jadakiss hypes The Game as a lyrical, controversial West Coast legend, highlighting his debut and loyalty.
  • Fat Joe proclaims Game as "one of the greatest rappers of all time."
  • The Game reflects on mutual respect: “You, you Snoop, like y’all friends with Marcus. Like you got those names with them kinda…” (02:44)

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2. Loyalty, Realness, and Hip-Hop "Mount Rushmore"

• 05:28 – 07:12:
  • The group jokes about being on the "Lying/Hallucinating Mount Rushmore;" Fat Joe lists himself, Game, Jim Jones.
  • Notable Quote:
    • Fat Joe: "We're the liars of all time. No, no, I swear to God." (05:44)
  • Ongoing respect for each other's authenticity in music—especially during album mode (07:09).

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3. Loyalty's Ultimate Test: The 50 Cent Beef

• 08:36 – 15:38:
  • The Game tells a never-before-shared story: when he joined G-Unit and discovered 50 Cent’s beef with Fat Joe, Jadakiss, and Nas, he refused to turn on them due to bonds built early in his career.
    • "There's no way I'm turning my back on him...so I guess I gotta leave the group for my friendship then." (09:13)
  • Fat Joe reveals admiration: "That's why I keep yelling 'loyal' cause you refused to turn even though that was your guy." (09:40)
  • The panel revisits how Game ultimately left G-Unit due to these loyalties, revealing the behind-the-scenes choices artists make.

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4. On Squashing Beefs and Hip-Hop Maturity

• 10:55 – 12:17; 13:07 – 14:27:
  • Fat Joe details squashing his beef with 50 Cent:
    • “I knew I was gonna go to jail or I was gonna get killed over that beef. I knew it...The thing I say is the biggest...mistake...is that duo of 50 Cent and The Game. That was Snoop and Dre. That was one of the greatest duos.” (13:08)
  • D1, serving as the “positive brother,” weighs in: “That’s what hip-hop needs more of.” (11:41)
  • The Game admits, "I never said it once," regarding regret for the 50 Cent break, but reiterates his loyalty over personal gain (14:27).

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5. Artistry, Inspiration, and East/West Coast Flows

• 31:47 – 37:56:
  • The Game explores influences from both West and East coasts:
    • Shout-outs to Big Pun, Nas (“Illmatic taught me 16s and 8s”), Jadakiss & The LOX ("We Are the Streets"), and Flex (“60 Minutes of Funk with Funk Flex, off rip”).
    • The Game: “I am really a student (of hip hop)...the way I studied hip hop was in a mead notebook with the silver rings.” (37:16)
    • Game and hosts marvel at his ability to blend NY lyricism with LA energy: "Game is the only guy from Compton making New York music." (34:12)
    • “Fuck the frail shit. Cause when the coke come in, they gotta use the scales that they weigh the whales with.” (36:40 – referencing classic hip hop bars)

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6. Positivity vs. Glorification Debate

• 21:47 – 31:00:
  • D1 shares concern: “If they do that tour together, how many records are we gonna hear where it’s 25,000 people...glorifying killing each other, glorifying selling dope?” (22:24)
  • Jadakiss defends hip-hop’s narrative as art: "But music is art... Not everything you saw in that movie actually happened" (23:45)
  • Discussion distinguishes “narration” (sharing stories) from “glorification” (celebrating negative behaviors):
    • D1: “Can everybody not understand that it’s a difference between narration and glorification?...but when we glorify it and make it sound cool...that little sixth grader...they don't have discernment.” (29:07)

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7. Story Time: Africa, Shows & Danger

• 46:24 – 61:15:
  • Hilarious and tense storytelling about touring Africa: getting paid huge advance fees for shows, facing unexpected “kidnappings,” and dealing with local power players like a figure called "Casablanca."
    • "Hey, we in Africa. There’s a guy there...He booked you, he sent you half a mil up front for one show...But he wants five shows!” (47:13+)
    • Vivid imagery: “They got hyenas on chains...I’m from Compton, I got...pit bulls. They got hyenas on the chain.” (48:19)
    • Fat Joe: "I'm not going nowhere with all this dick. So I go like it was too much money." (57:46)
    • They discuss fellow artists (DMX, Akon) encountering similar sketchy promoter situations.

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8. Interpersonal Real Talk: Trauma, Bullying, and Growth

• 42:53 – 45:41:
  • Fat Joe retells being bullied as a kid ("I got my ass whooped every single day...I was viral before TV or internet"), and how it shaped him into a “not to be messed with” persona. (43:01)
  • Game and Jadakiss reflect on similar moments of hardening as survival, with comedic interludes.

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9. Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake, and The Game’s Take

• 65:43 – 68:46:
  • Fat Joe asks The Game about Compton, Kendrick Lamar, and rap rivalries.
  • The Game: "So I got the utmost love for Kendrick...The reason there’s any type of little rift…is because Drake is my friend.” (66:44 & 67:53)
  • Game is diplomatic, seeing himself as a fan on the sideline if Kendrick and Drake go to war.
    • “If they go to war, then I gotta sit back like a fan of two people and I guess I just gotta watch it like everybody else.” (68:36)
  • The conversation blends admiration, competitiveness, and the impossibility of declaring “who’s better” between legends.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (Chronological Timestamps)

• Loyalty and Principle

  • “There's no way I'm turning my back on him...so I guess I gotta leave the group for my friendship then.”
    — The Game (09:13)

• On Beef and Growth

  • “I knew that I was gonna go to jail or I was gonna get killed over that beef...that duo of 50 Cent in The Game. That was Snoop and Dre. That was one of the greatest duos.”
    — Fat Joe (13:08)

• East Coast influences

  • “60 minutes of funk with Funk Flex, off rip… It was Pun song, ‘Punish me’… Illmatic taught me 16s and 8s. ‘We Are the Streets’ let me know that I really can do this shit for real.”
    — The Game (36:00–37:16)

• On Music and Reality

  • “Can everybody not understand that it’s a difference between narration and glorification?...that little sixth grader…doesn’t have the discernment…”
    — D1 (29:07)

• Touring Africa

  • “They got hyenas on chains...here I go, I'm about to earn my spot on the hallucination Mount Rushmore.”
    — The Game (48:19)

• Compton & Competition

  • “I got the utmost love for Kendrick...if they go to war, I gotta sit back like a fan.”
    — The Game (66:44, 68:36)

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Episode Highlights & Memorable Exchanges

• Game’s initiation into the New York hip-hop scene via Jadakiss & Fat Joe’s hospitality.
• Behind-the-scenes account of Game leaving G-Unit over loyalty conflicts.
• A spirited debate between D1 and the hosts on whether hip-hop should be more “positive.”
• Epic (and comedic) tales of performing in Africa under bizarre, high-stakes conditions.
• Cultural analysis of cross-coastal influences and the unique place Game occupies in hip-hop.
• Game’s nuanced, mature stance on the Kendrick vs. Drake discourse and on never ranking someone above himself.

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Closing

The episode blends unfiltered storytelling, personal confessions, and reflection on hip-hop’s past, present, and future. The chemistry is palpable, enriched by decades of experience and genuine camaraderie—even when challenging each other’s views. Jadakiss sums it up: “Every show legendary, every show iconic.” (00:35)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro/Hype & Guest Introduction: 00:00–01:43
• Loyalty/Leaving G-Unit: 08:36–15:38
• Squashing 50 Cent Beef: 10:55–14:27
• Positive Hip-Hop Debate: 21:47–31:00
• Game’s Artistic Development: 31:47–37:56
• Africa Tour Stories: 46:24–61:15
• Fat Joe on Childhood Trauma: 42:53–45:41
• Kendrick vs. Drake: 65:43–68:46

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The episode is both entertaining and insightful, providing listeners with an unguarded look at the real-life intersections of music, loyalty, culture, and growth in hip-hop.

Transcript

[The Game]

Later on, I see joe 150.

[Fat Joe]

Squash it. Yo, son, look, I'm like, no way. They're friends.

[The Game]

What? This is not the old Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Hold on.

[The Game]

You in la Joe. Show.

[Fat Joe]

Crack the dawn.

[Jadakiss]

It's your boy Jada. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. We Crushing All Star 2026 live from LA. When you think of today's guest, you think of bars, you think of lyricism, you think of controversy, you think of a hell of a father. Somebody who's very opinionated, somebody's loyal. Loyal. You think of. You think of hip hop, you know what I mean? He bleeds hip hop. You think of hell of a. You think of album sales, you think a debut. They duct taped him to a rocket ship on his debut. You think if somebody was able to be work on the conglomerate rich status in the. You know, I mean, you think of west coast, you think of Compton. You take an easy eat.

[Fat Joe]

You think it's still one of the Goats, One of the greatest rappers of all time. The gay.

[Jadakiss]

Make some noise.

[The Game]

Come on, come on, come on. You know, I reach across the top

[Fat Joe]

goat like, you know what's crazy is. And I don't want to up my. But I just. Because you're crazy game.

[Jadakiss]

But a lot of crazy today. I listen to a lot of crazy.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, he's crazy. He calls me. He calls me right after I do the show at Yankee Stave. He said, yo, they put a drug dealer on the field. The nigga's crazy. Yo, they got a drug. Do they know who they put on a Yankee gator before?

[The Game]

I can't believe it. When. When you get to these, like, when you. When you reach these heights, they be like, yeah, chill, fat, chill, fat, chill. Number one, you're not fat. Yeah, yeah, used to be fat.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? Thank God.

[The Game]

Look good.

[Jadakiss]

Used to be fat.

[Fat Joe]

Ch.

[The Game]

I'm gonna take my hoodie off. Cause look, you're doing amazing, by the way, brother. You're doing like. Like me and Cat, we still way down here, right? A little bit.

[Jadakiss]

A little bit, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You don't. No, no, you gotta call.

[The Game]

You got. You, you snoop. Like y' all friends with Marcus. Like you got those names with them kind of.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, your friends. You got different.

[Fat Joe]

I'm a lucky guy.

[The Game]

No, look, they see you coming and they see you. Nice guy. And me, I see Joe Craft.

[Fat Joe]

He called me from Yankees. Yo, they put a deal on the field. What kind of is this?

[The Game]

This is my connect.

[Fat Joe]

He's rapping like, 19 Stadium, yo. I said, damn. Damn. That's all you thought of?

[Jadakiss]

How about you finish your set and then had to go do a deal

[The Game]

after you had to go, yo, crack is like, he. You like Tommy and Ghost Mix. You like them real characters niggas doing

[Jadakiss]

TV shows about, you know, to cut you off. That's one of the things that I do love about hip hop. We got success stories of people who didn't finish high school. This and that is a large percentage of rappers who can't read.

[Fat Joe]

Tell you the wildest shit you ever heard in your life. And I'm going to say it here. My daughter's into golf. And she said, dad as he's into golf, and she's in some rich golf shit. And she's like, dad, do you have a friend Billy Dance from Mop Mash Out Posse? He golfs at my golf. I said. I said, you know who they are? He was like, yeah, this is one of your best friends for many years. He plays golf in my country club. This. I said, yo, what the.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to my brother Billy.

[Fat Joe]

You never thought hip hop would take it this far.

[Jadakiss]

A lot of success stories.

[The Game]

I seen somebody do what I did or what he did. I seen Jim Jones tell the world the crack. He know. And I said, and I saw that. And I said, that's right. Somebody else knows somebody else. You know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

What it is?

[The Game]

I'm proud of you.

[Fat Joe]

Thank you, my brother. You know, we had Jalen Rose yesterday. He's about to start talking about how I saved, you know, I saved his life in Miami. He said it, but they were sticking them up. Three in the morning. They had him like this, sticking them up the Zoes. I stopped, the Rolls Royce came out. So, yo, he with me. They was like, huh? Crack. I was like, he with me. They was like, for real. His jewels is already in their hands and all that. I was like, yo, Jayla, get in my car. Cause, you know, I don't even trust, like, real criminals. Like, they'll stop for a second. You turn the corner, they'll fucking rob the nigga anyway. I said, all right, get in my car with me. And I drove off. He was saying it yesterday. He said it, okay, beloved, you know, they. Yo, they say I'm a hallucinator.

[The Game]

I'm a liar.

[Fat Joe]

I'm a capper. Get it?

[The Game]

Yo, they say the same.

[Fat Joe]

Get out of control.

[The Game]

Hey, they got like a. They got a lying or hallucinating Mount Rushmore. I wasn't on it. No, no.

[Fat Joe]

You're on. It was I. It's me, you, Jim Jones, and. And who else? They said we're the liars of all time. No, no. I swear to God.

[Jadakiss]

It is.

[Fat Joe]

Yes. You know how they do this?

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

The Rushmores, RC game, Jim Jones and somebody else. You win at everybody.

[The Game]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You still go at everybody.

[The Game]

Nah, nah. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Recently, you tampered with a little Kendrick Lamar. You just like I'm the fat.

[Jadakiss]

I was about to ask you. I don't think that was it.

[Fat Joe]

Okay, we get the banana.

[The Game]

I'm not going to lie. If somebody asks Kiss who's the best rapper from New York and you don't, say yourself, our friendship gets different.

[D1]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

You ain't.

[The Game]

Same goal for you.

[Fat Joe]

One of the greatest rappers. Nah, I just get money, so I'm not. I don't give a fuck no more. You could keep the best rapper from New York.

[The Game]

Yo, we talking about. All right, so look.

[Fat Joe]

But you are definitely top. You're a goat. And you should be considered one of the greatest rappers, like, in that list because you've been spitting your nobody can rhyme like you game.

[The Game]

That's hallucination. Mount Rushmore. So I can't.

[Fat Joe]

No, no.

[The Game]

There ain't no flowers on there. It's just hard rock.

[Jadakiss]

After the cyber world you created.

[Fat Joe]

Two games.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, because you crash out when you want to, you support, you do whatever, all of that shit. I don't count as cybo. But when you. When you in album mode and you record it, that's a whole nother game that they can't. They can't. It's undeniable, your craftiness.

[The Game]

You hear that? Just from the nigga.

[Jadakiss]

He can't never say nothing.

[The Game]

Versus alone game.

[Fat Joe]

We don't give a fuck about what nobody thinks and nobody. Everybody know you're one of the nicest niggas ever lived. And you're loyal. All right? So let's just go. I keep. This is the second time I said that. We got the positive guy. Don't worry, we're going to get engagement.

[The Game]

Don't.

[Fat Joe]

Don't blow his teeth.

[The Game]

My loyalty, too. I don't mean to cut you off, because that's.

[Fat Joe]

I was about to tell you about your lawyer.

[The Game]

I'm going to say, but you tell me. No. Look, bro, I know when I came in the game, I'll tell y' all a story that nobody knows except me and him. And then. I'll get to you in a minute. Kiss came to the W, bro. Before I had an album out, he came to The W, he picked me up. He took me to YO, this is Yonkers for y' all kids in TV land. We jumped in the Beamer truck. I was so amazed that he had a Beamer truck. I wasn't on like that yet. He had the Super Timberlands on. Not just the regular Timbs from the joint. The ones Jadakiss's foot is in. These temps. You get what I'm saying? No. From a nigga from Compton who was trapping when, Fuck, the fringe shit came out. Because when the coat come in, they gotta use the scales that they weigh the whales. I'm in Compton when I heard that. And I was like, nigga, what? Pay it back niggas. So that Jadakins came and got me from the W Hotel when I first got on, bro. Took me to YO we was in the studio, we hung out, we went to the bodega. We was all up in the joint. I got to ask one of my favorite lyricists about some shit and kick it with him all day. And he took me back to the double. And you, Mr. Used to be Fat Joe, the shit. The shit that we. The way you embraced me when I came in, being from here and just giving me love, bro, you had my back. You gave me everywhere, everything I needed to survive on the East Coast. So that why, like, you two niggas and Nas is not here, but you two niggas is part of the reason

[Fat Joe]

I got kicked out the group.

[The Game]

I'm not gonna lie. A nigga told me that this is for the world. The Nigga told me 50 had beef with Fat Joe and Kiss and Nas. If I'm lying, I'm flying. I said, this nigga just picked me up, like, four months ago, five months ago. There's no way I'm turning my back on him. And if we're talking about crack, nigga, no way. So I guess I gotta leave the group, nigga about my friendship then. Years pass.

[Fat Joe]

We burnt this on Joe and Jada. That is a fucking fact. That's why I keep yelling loyal. Cause you refused to turn on even though that was your guy.

[The Game]

Yo, months later. Not months later, years later. You know, we get older, we get early on the onset. Dementia and shit. You know what I'm saying? But look, later on, I see Joe. 150.

[Fat Joe]

Squash it. Yo, son, look, I'm like, no way. They're friends.

[The Game]

But this is not the old Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Hold on.

[The Game]

You in la, Joe? This is not the old Joe. This is the Azzy Milan's father. He's Changed. He's a different guy, right? So I said, you know what? Crack is burying the hatchet. But I'm at home and I'm seeing. I was like, oh, okay. Well, damn. I don't know how I feel about that. But I'm your. Your brother forever. But I don't. I. I don't. I don't know. I'm gonna give him a chance.

[Fat Joe]

You was upset when I squashed it.

[The Game]

I wasn't upset. I was just like it.

[Fat Joe]

Now, guys, these young men don't know, but we have an honorable guest in the house. And slide that chair right here. We have the positive brother D1 in the audience, and we're going to be bringing them in and out of this episode. Come here, brother. Hurry up. By the way, he don't got no mic. We gotta put a mic on the side right now. It's too late for that. But you can speak into the shirt. The positive brother. If y' all don't know the positive brother. Hold up, hold up. Come on. He's honor. He's like, when they do the sign language and shit on the day, that's what he's doing today, brother. With you and your educated positive mind, would you say that was positive for hip hop when fat Joe and 50 Cent squashed a beef that could have had people?

[D1]

Hey, that's what hip hop needs more of.

[Fat Joe]

Seriously.

[D1]

And anybody that's a grown man that wants to keep beef going, they can do better. They can do better, bro. And they wouldn't want their kids that are in private schools and living in gated communities to be out there involved in some daily beef. So why would they want their favorite rappers still to be their opps to where you got to see somebody on the airplane and pillows getting thrown and people about to get kicked off planes. We are grandfathers at this point.

[Fat Joe]

Back to you, CD1. We're going to be using you too.

[The Game]

Well, I'm not gonna lie.

[Jadakiss]

That was like Marv. That was like more than one.

[The Game]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Fat Joe]

I got him in the flesh.

[The Game]

When you get. When he put it that way, he has a point. He has a point. Yeah, well, I was just. That was just me just poking fun at you, man. It's all good. But if you know anything about 50, I can say this. Cause that was my. That was my fighting. And we were in a fucking group that he allowed me to be in and get in early. And 50 is a genius. He a fucking asshole. He's a troll. He's a. One day me and 50. We just gonna go behind the thing. It's like brothers and just. I gotta get it in with him just one time to see if he

[Fat Joe]

really built like that.

[The Game]

But I fuck with him. So. No, I'm saying Kiss. I'm just saying.

[Fat Joe]

I feel you today.

[The Game]

There's no game, people. There's no game in 50 anything. And you, you.

[Fat Joe]

Can I say one thing?

[The Game]

You. You squ.

[Fat Joe]

I always say, no, no, I squashed it because you're a little further than me in the West Coast. And I don't know if you know D1 or you too young or you too old, but we really put in that work. And I knew that I was gonna go to jail or I was gonna get killed over that beef. I knew it. And everybody else who had beef with him was standing back like, oh, these niggas, they gonna kill each other when they see each other. And they were like, yo, let me just fall back enough and let Joe run into him, because I know what's about to happen. So I knew I was going to jail. I knew I was going to get killed. The thing I say is the biggest fuck up or the biggest mistake and I know you did it for us. The hip hop history is that duo of 50 Cent in the game. That was one of the. That was Snoop and Trey. That was one of the greatest dual. You never missed that. You never said one day to yourself, damn, we would have kept making the illest music ever created. I wonder if 50 Cent thinks that when he comes on the show. I ask him too. But I'm asking you, did you ever. I don't want to say regret, but did you ever say, damn, we could have just smashed the whole game?

[The Game]

I never said it once. You know what I said? I said. And I'll tell you what else I said said once. I said, I'm not going to. I don't give a fuck who it is. I would have told my mama this. Mom, I'm sorry. Kiss, before I met him, was my nigga, you know, he's my first member of the. You know, if I gotta rank the lots on three niggas, like, it's Kiss. And then it's, I love Styles, right? I love him to death. But his Kiss chic is a fucking wild card. So I like them. They remind me of myself with voice and like a leader and like, you know, every. Every group, no matter what the fuck.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I've always respected that about you. You stood on that and you stick it, right?

[D1]

Yeah.

[The Game]

I'm telling you here, I'm A little kiss in the eye, bro. I sat there 24 years old, bro, and I could not go against our friendship. I wasn't gonna do that. And it wasn't about. No, I didn't care. Number one, we was young too, but I didn't give a fuck. I really appreciated you coming to grab me, taking me to Wyo and giving me experience that I could never forget, bro. I couldn't. It happened before the other shit happened. So I could not go against that.

[Jadakiss]

And you, you are know that I never knew that that was the real reason. Oh, no, that's the real reason you just said me. You know, our relationship, what you had with me and how you felt about Crack made you say fuck it, though.

[Fat Joe]

Crack heard it on the radio. No, no, he said it.

[Jadakiss]

I thought it was some other.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no. You said on the radio, hey, yo, Game said. He want me to say, hey, Crack, tell him what I said on time.

[Jadakiss]

It's him now. Cause you. I think you crazy.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, Crack. Verbatim what I say on the radio.

[Fat Joe]

Games say anything on the earth. Drake. Well, Drake Cool and Dre love. They don't love. They worship Games. So anytime I think he's tweaking a wallet, not at me to anybody, they

[The Game]

would go, yo, Crack, you know that

[Fat Joe]

man's that man got that beef over you and Kiss. And I be like, damn. Sometimes I gotta stand next to Game even when you not there. You don't even know. I'm arguing in the stupid. Just cause I'm like, yo, I gotta.

[Jadakiss]

I got a new. I knew somebody.

[Fat Joe]

He passed you.

[Jadakiss]

He crazy.

[Fat Joe]

He's crazy. I'm crazy. I owe you.

[Jadakiss]

I'm forever debit to you for I'm crazy.

[D1]

Crazy.

[Fat Joe]

He's.

[Jadakiss]

I never knew that. It's kind of like you had to.

[The Game]

Okay.

[Fat Joe]

If you know everything, you don't crash out.

[Jadakiss]

You had to get out of the groove.

[Fat Joe]

Anyway.

[The Game]

I thought you knew, though.

[Jadakiss]

Nah.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, he knew. We talking about loud and clear. No, no, no. You said it to the world.

[Jadakiss]

I didn't know that.

[The Game]

I said it on Flex.

[Fat Joe]

When that shootout went down. The last thing he stacked before the shootout.

[The Game]

We might got a bigger bone to pick with Flex. Cause he set me up with the question. Wow. The angered at me. Flex was like, so you know, 50 got beef with Kiss, he got beef with Nas, he got beef with Joe. I said, I cut them off. I was like, nah, them they non negotiable. 50 heard it and said it went on 105 and said, yeah, Game ain't in the group. I didn't feel no way about what

[Fat Joe]

happened on the Way to live.

[The Game]

Hey, you happened the same day.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[The Game]

One day on one of the coldest nights in New York. I kid you not. You love that.

[Fat Joe]

Frozen. You ain't know that. I knew that my whole life, kids look up.

[Jadakiss]

I didn't know that was look up the night of.

[The Game]

Look up the night of the shootout. One of the coldest nights in New York ever. I kid you not.

[Jadakiss]

I'm gonna look it up.

[The Game]

Joe gave me like he still paid for my bill at Carbone, but like, you owe me.

[Fat Joe]

It's Lil something, right? I say, french Montana coming here today and got a mountain of diamonds on his with Mary get a lot of money. I'm looking at him, I say, yo, save a little beast for later. Like, I took this demo. Perhaps a little something for the note. I'm looking at all them diamonds, and he's marrying the princess Duba. I said, this, must have forgot. I took his up to I97 and made them play his. I'm like, maybe a little diamond. Maybe a laugh.

[Jadakiss]

Like, now. One more question on my bucket. How was hater to love it?

[Fat Joe]

Create Shout out Cool and Dre.

[Jadakiss]

I'm a shout out Cooling Dre.

[The Game]

It was one of the times I flew to New York. There was one of the times you didn't get me. Capo got me. This time, he dropped me over the W. That was my spot. I love it. I was just fifth and fourth in Broadway. I felt like. I just felt like a king there, bro. I walk out the lobby, the Jamba Juice right there. The Foot Locker right there. I'm the guy. And I'm also 22. I don't have. There's no Jamba Juice in Compton, by the way, just so you know. Maybe now, but it wasn't then. So being able to be in New York, walk out of the hotel, get the Jamba Juice, a Gummy Bears off the menu, walk across the street, get you some off, you know, some. Some white Air Force ones in there. Ma couple picked me up, bro. He dropped me off in the W. Interscope Center. Van took me straight to Connecticut, Mike Tyson's old crib. I got ocd, so I noticed that the statue that was in the front of the crib has some cracks in it. But that's the story for another time. I didn't like that. I want to fix that. But we went there, and maybe it was from when Mike had, you know, but no one passed.

[Fat Joe]

Somebody should have fixed somebody Cuz at

[The Game]

this time, 50 just ain't the biggest on Earth.

[Fat Joe]

We go.

[The Game]

And Dre from Cooler Drake told me that 50 was homie, something that was going to change the trajectory of what we were doing together. He said 50 already put, you know, the hook on it. You just got to go slide in the parts that he had for you. And so when. When 50 say, I wrote I gave gang these records, he did give me those records. What I'm saying to 50 on Joe and Jada or anybody that's listening who thinks that my pen is lazy or some shit, that if 50, those are great records, love. And I appreciate 54 that. Cause he. He's a jingly native. You know what I'm saying? He come. He. It's called a hook for a reason. He's great at that. But if 50 don't give me those records, bro, I promise you, as me being who I am, I still am in the same position, because that's my destiny. That's what I set out for myself. I was gonna achieve it by any means necessary. If I had to get Snoop and Nate Dog to do a hook, I was to the mo because that's how I saw it for myself. Do I appreciate 50 for making it a little bit easier? Absolutely. And this, I'm telling you, bro, this 50, bro, he a different. But I understand this. I know this. And he. The. That he do to everybody else, it don't work on me. So it's like we have to be friends. Cause you are a piece of. And so am I. So we might as well go sit on somebody's line and wait for a to step in us. Cause we are up. You know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[The Game]

So that's where we at with.

[Jadakiss]

That's a great way to think about it.

[The Game]

Think about it. This nigga's the ultimate troll, bro. He don't give a fuck.

[Fat Joe]

I think pull out the seat.

[The Game]

Oh, man, here we go.

[Fat Joe]

Positive, brother.

[Jadakiss]

This episode,

[Fat Joe]

he's like a touch, man. Would it be nice to see a tour with 50 cent and the game together for hip hop music? Hold on for Generation Positive, brother. Hey, yo.

[The Game]

He is a part of. But let me tell you, 50 won't do it unless he get 51%.

[Fat Joe]

And I got 49. Who gives a. 49 is a hundred million. Give a hundred million. Let me talk to you about that. Behind the scene.

[D1]

No, we don't want that tour.

[Fat Joe]

We don't want that.

[D1]

No, sir.

[Fat Joe]

The 50 cent in that game.

[D1]

Listen, man, listen. I love y'.

[The Game]

All.

[D1]

Y' all might disagree with my point of view, but I'm gonna keep it a hundred. There's life and death in the power of the tongue. If they do that tour together, how many records are we gonna hear where it's 25,000 people every night coming to hear us glorifying, killing each other, glorifying selling dope, even though we've graduated past that stage in our lives? That's the thing.

[Fat Joe]

You might be too scientific. Would you wanna see positivity and the rappers coming together?

[D1]

So watch this. Hold on. If we see.

[The Game]

Hold on.

[Jadakiss]

But before you even go into that, can I just give you a little. I just want to give you one thing, and then I want you to go right back into your. After I give you this jewel, I wanted. I wanted to marinate and saute and blend in what you was about to say. Because you do know this is an art form. With today's society, they created drill music, where they actually go do something and then make a song about it. That's which you should be trying to eliminate, right? Our art form was people that had to do stuff for their family, this and that. But music in general is art. So I'm sure you like. I don't know what kind of movies you like, but everything you saw didn't happen in that movie. So you can't hold.

[Fat Joe]

So you don't watch no movies with violence or nothing like that.

[D1]

Watch this. This is not a movie.

[The Game]

The main.

[D1]

The main phrase in hip hop is that we keep it real.

[Fat Joe]

If it's a movie, keeping it real,

[Jadakiss]

staying healthy

[Fat Joe]

teeth is right.

[Jadakiss]

Making sure your socks is white and things like that is keeping it rich.

[D1]

So if you got. So if you got the kkk, the Georgia version, and then the Tennessee chapter, and then the Texas chapter. And if they say, yo, we about to go on tour together and celebrate how good we've been hating black people all these years, we will be up in arms, we'll be ready to ride on.

[The Game]

Why?

[D1]

Because of what they represent.

[Fat Joe]

Right? So now I should have told you. You didn't know what was happening there. Put a little fentanyl on the dope with this episode. Just a little offense. You don't need the dope because he's giving us the pure. Nice. Because of his pure. He coming with the yarn.

[D1]

Watch this.

[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[D1]

If gang would have got killed. I used to intern for Jimmy Hinton when I was in college.

[Jadakiss]

Listen. Yeah, yeah.

[D1]

Watch this.

[Jadakiss]

I gotta give you a flag.

[Fat Joe]

Hey, you can give me a flag.

[Jadakiss]

Positive person in the world.

[Fat Joe]

You give me a flag.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, we don't say that. Use another example.

[The Game]

All right.

[Jadakiss]

What do you say if game really got killed?

[D1]

Watch this. Lord forbid if any of y' all brothers lose, y' all lives. The rap game would be crying. Why do we cry when rappers die? But we love when they glorify murder when they alive? Why do we say that we love one another then turn around and backstab our brother? Why do we say that we cherish our sisters then disrespect them and call them all. That's my whole thing is it's like a walking contradiction in the game. We say it's this unity and we love each other. But then it's this music.

[Fat Joe]

The problem is I'm gonna get to 26. Hold on.

[Jadakiss]

You know the world. The president of Venezuela, you know? Right.

[The Game]

That's the world we live in.

[Fat Joe]

If you know that, say you have your way, right?

[D1]

Right.

[Fat Joe]

And there's nothing for positivity, right?

[The Game]

Right.

[Fat Joe]

How far you think that'll go?

[D1]

Let's call it reality rap, not positivity rap.

[Fat Joe]

Because I rap about. I rap about murder.

[D1]

I rap about drugs.

[Fat Joe]

What's going on? Murder, drugs. Just so you supposed to. Hold on.

[Jadakiss]

You just. There's a double. It's a double

[Fat Joe]

reality game.

[D1]

You're gonna appreciate the news.

[Jadakiss]

It's killing.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no. Listen, Mom. And listen. We love you. I know somebody has to respond it, all right? Because we're not there yet.

[The Game]

Okay?

[Fat Joe]

Right. Are you demonstrating with the. You walking with Jesus through the day?

[The Game]

Yo, this D1, so positive. He's holding the red flag. Kiss the whip.

[Fat Joe]

So you know who you talk, bro? No, that's my guy. I just wanted a voice consciousness.

[D1]

Serious question. Serious question. It's a dream come true to be up here with y'.

[The Game]

All.

[Fat Joe]

You here, brother.

[D1]

I used to intern for Jimmy Henchman when I was in college when he was managing game, right? Top five in my book, you know what I mean? We didn't talk behind the scenes in New Orleans. You showing me love, all this. Listen, can everybody not understand that it's a difference between narration and glorification? So talk about what you saw in. Yo, talk about them horror stories of Compton. For sure. Talk about it. Narrate your life. I gotta talk about New Orleans and what I saw. But when we glorify it and make it sound cool and that little sixth grader sitting in the crowd, they don't have discernment to know the difference between. He telling his story, but now he making it sound like it's good to go kill somebody. And we saw a lot of glorification coming up. Glorification of all the negativity. I was a Hot Boys fan. The Hot Boys taught me how to run a train on females.

[Fat Joe]

How to. You know, how to. Military people told me, thank you. When they came back from Iraq and Afghanistan, who keep us and told me, thank you. Hey, yo, I listened to your music, you know.

[The Game]

You know the guy who put the join in, Ben Laddin, was listening to Red Nation. You know the lyrics. Listening. You know the lyrics to Red Nation?

[D1]

I know the lyrics.

[Fat Joe]

I know the lyrics.

[D1]

I know your catalog.

[Fat Joe]

All right, Back over there, put some. Hey, yo, yo. It's business.

[The Game]

Come on.

[Fat Joe]

Put some cut on his thing. He's coming to like. Yeah, I'm trying to make him applaud.

[Jadakiss]

He's giving his true opinion.

[D1]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

But it's too much.

[The Game]

Hey, I love D1, though.

[Fat Joe]

I need. I love him, too. I got him on the biggest. This is the biggest episode ever. Hey, I got him on here.

[The Game]

And you know how he got on here?

[Fat Joe]

Yo, I could have ignored you, right? Hey, I'm letting you talk your.

[The Game]

But if you would have voiced.

[Fat Joe]

Nobody does that. That's why we number one.

[The Game]

If you would have ignored him, he would have told you about that time. I didn't ignore him. And then I vibed with him and then I did a song with him. So it's like, you know, you can't ignore a guy like that. Anyway, he got. He on a different path, man. It's D1 is if you don't. If y' all don't know. And you know how you know. I judge podcasts now by the money. Y' all putting y' all cameras. Y' all rich.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[The Game]

But D1, D1 on his way, man. Y' all getting a lot of money this generation.

[Fat Joe]

We on Netflix, right?

[The Game]

Of course you are. Why wouldn't you be?

[Fat Joe]

Don't even let him talk. Don't even let him talk. Don't even let him talk because this guy here, there's too many opinions. Listen to me. You're getting great. You got great sets. You in the soul house in la. This is great. Ok, but, you know, we on Netflix now.

[The Game]

Can I ask y' all both cool questions, man? No violence, Hood. No, yo, Compton, Bronx. No, none of that. Because I just. After he left and you just said, what we on, I looked at y', all, too. My. These are my friends. Y' all my brothers, too. I changed up my whole career because literally my whole path, I jumped off with my brothers. So you was right. You was on before me. He was on before you, right? Yeah. Who did you look up to before you got on? And then you. Same question. Because I'm sitting here with two niggas that I rocked with, and I go back to Fat Joe when Pun got out and. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of people had a different interpretations. I was in Compton, but I know the whole story. And I also know Fat Joe, so I know what pun intended to you and what that friendship was. But I wasn't on when you got on. I wasn't on when you got on. But I know when I got on, nigga. This is why. Near 50. But it heads because I listened to you before.

[Jadakiss]

Sometimes you crash out anytime, anytime anybody gotta say anything. With comparisons with me and you, I just tell him, did you ever hear him say he the only content with a yonkish flow? That right there for me. I never got a rebuttal.

[Fat Joe]

50 Cent gave you one of those too, right? He said the only live niggas, they're coming from y'. All.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[The Game]

So that, that's what.

[Jadakiss]

That's made that kind of weird to me. But you know, after, you know, whatever is whatever.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you thought he's a boss.

[Jadakiss]

No, no, no. I'm saying with fifth, after he said that, then, you know, it's crazy. But when Game said that in 100 bars and running, that solidified his understanding

[Fat Joe]

of what this one question I've been dying to ask Game. That's not controversy, not nothing, not nothing. LA has brought too much to the Game. But when I go to LA party, they play LA sounding music. So everybody start dancing like this and this.

[Jadakiss]

Let me get that.

[The Game]

I'm sure I don't know if you crib walking a blood walking. I want to know which one because they're gonna have questions for it.

[Fat Joe]

You know, if I'm in the gang, I'm in the bloods. I'm gonna get up with family, what they do. You know that. Oh, you know what the fuck they doing?

[The Game]

Nigga, I'm gonna get six calls.

[Fat Joe]

Williams, Crip, walking in the. In the Super Bowl. What I'm trying to say is LA got their own sound, they got their own flaws from anywhere. From mca, from fucking Quick, from all. They always had their own flow. And Game is the only guy Compton and make New York music. I know it's LA music.

[Jadakiss]

No, it's not. It's not the mute. He makes LA music. He got a little bit of news.

[Fat Joe]

You're the only one. And he just told you he was listening to.

[The Game]

I told you, bro. Hey, I'm not gonna lie, man. I listen, I've been, I've been, you

[Fat Joe]

know, not to cut out because you're in it. Can I explain something? I want to paint the picture these people, it's a story. The music carved it. Gang banging just like, yo, hey, west side. Like, they doing all that. They listening to all that backyard boogie. And the man come with the New York flow, the New York music. Like, I don't know how you did that. That's what I'm trying to explain.

[The Game]

I'm gonna walk you down real quick. It's three elements to this, to the three three elements to the answer to your question. Number one is 60 minutes of funk with phone flex off rip, right? I had every Phone Flex tape. I even emailed my demo to Flex on a tape. He got it. Flex wrote me back in the mail. Before Internet, there's no Internet. He wrote me back, he said, if you ever in New York, come see me. This is why to this day, if I hit, I can call Flex right now. I guarantee you he pick up and he'll counteract the story. That shit right there, right? It was Pun song Punish me. This is no lie. And when I do, when we. When me and you get to doing our shit like this, they say we lie. When Pun got out and he put the album out and everybody was on. I'm not a player. I just crush a lot. I was on punishment. I was the luckiest man on earth.

[Fat Joe]

My business was worth anything.

[The Game]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I was on. And I was on Digging in the Crates. But the album that changed my life, two of them, right? It's Illmatic. Illmatic taught me 16s and 8s. And then we are the streets. Let me know that I really can do this shit for real. All I gotta do is be myself and figure out how to beat Fuck the frail shit. So that. And I'm not even lying when I say it's two bars in my life, right? Fuck the frail shit. I'll say it to anybody. Fuck the frail shit. Cause when the colt come in, they gotta use the scales that they wear the whales with. Incredible, right? The other one is Pops knew exactly what he did when he made me try to get a nun. And he got nut. What three? If I'm doing a top five, three is all my G's moving silence like lasagna, right? And I don't even gotta do four and five. Cause you understand that my. The way that I studied hip hop was in a me notebook. Nigga with the silver rings with a pen. I am really a student. So when get to playing with my legacy because I'm a funny and I troll and all that. I'll tell you. Every got their own fans. Kiss got his own fans.

[Fat Joe]

Crack got his own fans. I see you on Take beating the out that. That we just got positive with. Oh, I'm sorry.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, D1, come here, man. That's it. No, come in, man. Hold on. Because we can't have.

[Fat Joe]

Hey, yo, D1. Let me talk to D1.

[The Game]

We can't have. We can't have our hip hop Goats bringing up old beefs to start to trigger shit.

[Fat Joe]

Now we doing it. We in Los Angeles, too.

[The Game]

D1, a goat.

[D1]

That's what I'm saying, Joe.

[The Game]

What's wrong with you, bro? Right here, D1, come on, man. Come on. Hey, D1, we're too late in the game. Hey, talk to him.

[D1]

It's only hip hop. You don't see country stars talking about, well, Garth Brooks. Remember back in the day when you was beating the crap out of Rod Stewart on camera? But we got a goat, a legend.

[Fat Joe]

I'm saying, you don't see Kirk, this is the best choice on the planet Earth. I'm serious. Garth Brooks. Garth Brooks beat up Ted McGraw.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, and I just saw, you know, I'm a visual nigga. So I seen Garth Brooks break a Heineken on the bar and then come at Ross Stewart with the jagged edge of the shit.

[D1]

It's only us, bro.

[Fat Joe]

The closest you gonna get is Jelly Roll at Somerset Slam or some. I was dead.

[The Game]

Yeah, well, you know. You got to know Jelly Roll before he slammed down. Yeah, he was different.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Jelly Roll, he got name now, D1, thanks for your help,

[The Game]

man.

[Fat Joe]

I let it sit right here. That.

[The Game]

Yeah, man. Hey, but no, he on some real. He had that coming. It was. It's all good. When you. If you want to have. If you want to go, you want to do lyrical warfare, I'm with all that, right? Like, when we see each other, we don't got to do that. If you're. If it's just rap. But when you bring my kids in it, you must want to exit Earth. You must want to die.

[Fat Joe]

You don't.

[The Game]

Bro, we ain't even at the end of my story. And plus, D1 killed me like 10 minutes ago. So anyway, if it's about my kids, bro, I'm coming to see you every single time. I don't play with.

[Fat Joe]

Fucking with a man, his wife fucking with his kid. Yeah, that just black him out. At this point. You just like, oh, really? You see now, D1, I wouldn't say a little negativity, but I want you.

[Jadakiss]

He got asked D1 when he was God.

[Fat Joe]

The strangest shit I'm gonna say, God, if you with me talking about me, bothering me, doing all this, this, this, somewhere. I don't know if it's today, tomorrow, 10 years, he gonna give you to me in the gift. I could be in a Home Depot. I could be in the old senior citizens home. The go walk, up on the walk. And I'm gonna be like, now surprise. You had this coming. Yeah, you had this coming. Because I know. So when I see somebody just go. I'd just be like, all right, don't worry.

[The Game]

Don't worry.

[Fat Joe]

He gonna bring you to me. And I ain't talking about Devil, because I ain't got nothing negative about God. Bring them to me someday or another. And Dunkin Donuts. Hey, fellas.

[The Game]

How we doing here?

[Fat Joe]

What's going on, buddy? With all that shit you've been talking? It just happens every time. Tennis, wherever. Let me holler at you. The middle of Square Garden.

[The Game]

That's how he. That's how.

[Fat Joe]

This is Square Garden. Let me tell you something. Middle of the. This. Anyway, it's the game show, but use the bathroom. And he drank toilet water in the middle of Madison Square.

[The Game]

God damn it.

[Fat Joe]

I can't do that.

[The Game]

The guy.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I can't do that because the guy was. He's a good guy.

[The Game]

Now, you know, this positive commercial break. This positive commercial break goes out to all those kids Joe robbed in that gym.

[Fat Joe]

I robbed all them. All 70 y. I'm the only.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, I'm the only watching that

[Fat Joe]

said, yeah, yeah, you can get it. And they help me with the stuff.

[Jadakiss]

I get another way Button.

[Fat Joe]

Give him the strong stuff. I love this, Jada.

[The Game]

Y'. All.

[Fat Joe]

Isn't what you want me to do. Listen, D1, stay positive. There's pussy niggas and there's real niggas. I'm sorry if you can't fathom that, because you used to get smacked on the back of your neck and keep it moving.

[The Game]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

There's guys out there that were maniacs that.

[The Game]

Yeah, crack.

[Fat Joe]

You did it. Crack. You know what's up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. I was too wild. I used to get bullied. So this is how it starts, T. Boy, I used to get bullied. He used to jump me. Let me tell you this, right? Do you know how hard it is to know. To be in type? This is how old it is. Typewriting class. Look out the window with every girl in the classroom saying, joey, they're waiting for you, three o'. Clock. You look out the window, they're going. You ever had that?

[Jadakiss]

No.

[Fat Joe]

I did every day. Hey, I got a story.

[The Game]

I'm gonna let him finish. I got a story.

[Fat Joe]

Save the story. I went to school. I never dropped out. I went there and got my ass whooped every single day. I had hair that will pull my hair. Did that traumatize you? Yeah, I'm traumatized now. Hey, yo, too rich. I Don't give a story. Traumatized.

[The Game]

I got one of my little.

[Fat Joe]

And then that's what turned me into. So you know what happened? They caught my man. He was my best friend in junior high school.

[The Game]

They caught.

[Fat Joe]

It's in my book. Book, Jose. And they caught my best friend. My mother fed him spice ham and cheese sandwiches every lunchtime, quarter water. And they said, yo, why you with this guy? Because they. I was a joke. You ever been a joke where they pick on you for every day? You ever been a joke where. All right, we want to beat anybody up? Or how about you want to join the crew and act like you're tough? Let's just beat up the fat over here. I got my ass whipped every day. There is no Thanksgiving picture without an I. Jamie bloody nose. A lick. They was beating the brakes off me every.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, kiss me. Looking at you like he not your co host, bro.

[Fat Joe]

He got some people out there. I don't know people out there thinking, this cat. I don't know face on it.

[Jadakiss]

He had a bone.

[Fat Joe]

He's having a bone. Yo, bro. Well, let me tell you something. My man Leonard. Let him finish.

[Jadakiss]

You gotta cut him off.

[Fat Joe]

Who I played Pac man with. Every day they came to him and they said, yo, if you don't jump him with us, we're gonna jump you. And guess what? My best friend Leonard jumped me with them.

[Jadakiss]

N was ass.

[Fat Joe]

Fuck him. But you know what?

[The Game]

He would have still been in G and Leonard would have still been in G Unit for sure.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lennon would. So I had no choice. I just.

[The Game]

I turned.

[Fat Joe]

My heart turned black, unfortunately, to your thing. Every more important person, the more crazy person that I would beat up or rob or something. People thought I was ill. That's crack ts. Yo, who's that? Yo, that's some big distance that I was viral before Internet TV or any. But I was viral. The whole entire Bronx knew. In my age group, there's a fat Spanish kid not to be fucked with on any level. He not playing. But that was to ask you a question. Forced me to do that.

[Jadakiss]

When did you make this transition from getting the brakes beat off you? Did you start taking the breaks?

[Fat Joe]

Leonard at the Leonardo? Trust me, I cried.

[The Game]

Did you still have powers? Did you still have that hair from the Book of Jose? Was the hair there when you transitioned

[Fat Joe]

to go to Turkey?

[The Game]

I ain't going to lie, cuz. That was some smooth VDL Sassoon on the front of the book.

[Fat Joe]

Thought I was lying.

[The Game]

I got the.

[Fat Joe]

I had hair like the Beatles and they thought I was lying. I'm like, yo, I had hair. Like, you got me up. I had hair. And so thank God we had a picture that I had hair.

[The Game]

Yeah, right.

[Fat Joe]

It's so gang, man. My brother, you into everything. You know, one day I'm in Africa, right? No, no, I'm not gonna say nothing going. No.

[The Game]

You know how we got out of there?

[Fat Joe]

You can say it. Okay, we got.

[The Game]

I say, hey, yo, we in Africa. This ain't gonna be the longest one.

[Fat Joe]

It is.

[The Game]

It's a guy there. I got everybody.

[Jadakiss]

I gotta hit you for that thing.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, everybody in Africa in this part of Africa knows there's a guy there. He booked you. He sent you half a mil up front for one show. You feel like I hit the jackpot. That's right, 500,000. All I gotta do is go do fuck, duh frail shit. I get to Africa, they pick me up in the Benzes like Mandela.

[Fat Joe]

Am I lying in the middle of Africa? They the only ones with Bentleys, bro.

[The Game]

I got 10 shots in the shoulder to go to Africa. Don't drink the water, but you can eat the. They pick me up in 10 business like Mandela. I'm sliding through the Congo. Women with chicken on their head, chickens on their head, fruit bowls. I'm like, this really African.

[Fat Joe]

There's a real Africa. It's the real Africa and not the fake Africa. You almost these.

[The Game]

Locking the van. Like if the. If the street fighter stole your money. We go to the hotel. We get to the five. Five star hotel.

[Fat Joe]

Great hotel.

[The Game]

Great hotel. Let me tell you what wasn't out the window.

[Fat Joe]

There's millions of people homeless.

[The Game]

This one wasn't great about the hotel. You couldn't shower in the hotel unless you had a bottled water. Five star. It's a guy there, his name is Raquino. They call him Casablanca.

[Fat Joe]

Speak on the God Casablanca in Spanish.

[The Game]

I didn't know at the time. I knew later it mean White House. So this is the president of the hood. He come to the hotel, he got 19 million soldiers with him. They got hyenas on the chain.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[The Game]

I'm from Compton. I got. We got pit boys. Hey, bro, they got hyenas on the chain. Here I go. I'm about to earn my spot on the hallucination mountain of Russia.

[Fat Joe]

That's right.

[The Game]

It's a spit hanging from the hyena. This is. This is real brat. Now you know. They don't know It's a piece of spit hanging from the hyena mouth. It never hit the ground, it's between his tooth and limbo. Yeah, it's hanging. He come to me after the show. I just think I smoked it. I'm talking about 10,000 African homies. They. When I'm.

[Fat Joe]

When I come on, people don't know. The people love us. Oh, they love us. When I come on stage. When I come on stage, they like, it's a you and Tupac. For me on the west coast, it's you and Tupac. A million niggas say this. I'm feeling like me with Tupac. Nigga, give me the java juice. Cause this nigga, he love me.

[The Game]

I'm the king. This nigga come to me and said, we need to get you to the hotel. You have show tomorrow. I said, take my chrome hearts off. I said, a show tomorrow. I had my baby mama and my little son baby from the documentary. They on their way to London. Because I'm about to take this 500, 000 to London. We about to live.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[The Game]

I did. I did.

[Fat Joe]

How we do, haters?

[The Game]

I did five songs off the documentary. Them went crazy. I went back. I'm going back to the van for 500,000. I'm a hundred thousand per song. He said, you got to do a show tomorrow, right? I said, ah, it was one show. He said, no, five shows. Now you playing, right? Cause I think that you think I'm Ching. No disrespect to Chingy, but I mean,

[Fat Joe]

hey, yo, I'm not gonna lie. I love Tingy, too. What I mean is.

[The Game]

Listen, what I mean is, you know how niggas try to play Shingy like, he wasn't the right fair. Shingi was hot.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. She was almost hot as Nelly when I came in. Yeah.

[The Game]

So when I say Chingy, I don't mean no disrespect.

[Jadakiss]

We understand.

[The Game]

He been getting mad at lately. Chingy been out. He been out.

[Fat Joe]

No, he's my guy. I love Chingy.

[The Game]

I was buckled with Chingy, and he had to join me. Tyrese keep holding me back. That was fire. It's almost equivalent to Nelly and Kelly Roll, but that's one. Another time, but this told me I'm gonna do five more shows for the 500. So I said, damn.

[Jadakiss]

So he telling, you got five more. Five more, bro, for the bread. He already sent my kids.

[Fat Joe]

He's.

[The Game]

Oh, tell me if I'm lying. He send you the bread before you leave. Before you leave.

[Fat Joe]

Before you leave. That much.

[Jadakiss]

The bread is.

[The Game]

The bread is in the bank account.

[Fat Joe]

You know how many Artists didn't go and rob them for a million. I'm the who got burned, verbally abused for the whole game of hip hop. You won the positivity. Missy Elliott. I her. Hey, this one, that one. He's trying to get me to put everybody on the phone, please. Brown phone. Ain't selling my million dollars. He don't come. He me with a hundred with machine guns behind him.

[The Game]

I'm like, no cap on the machine guns, no nothing.

[Jadakiss]

So look, five shows. Let me hear this.

[Fat Joe]

After that crack, I come down.

[The Game]

Okay, look, I get down. I'm like 500, 500. I'm coming down the hotel. Oh, yo, by the way, I'm on the 59, 000 floor up there. That's how you lay it out.

[Fat Joe]

Shanti Ashanti took the money, didn't show up even myself.

[The Game]

Good for her.

[Fat Joe]

What's up?

[The Game]

I come down to the hotel. I see my. I see my cousin by the elevator, bro. He got the. He doing this.

[Fat Joe]

No, got the scary face, bro. I come down, security as that end up looking like a.

[The Game]

Hey, yo.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody got quiet out there.

[The Game]

Everybody is at the end.

[Fat Joe]

This was this small. He was this big. His name was Biff. That started looking like that. He got the cry face

[The Game]

like this,

[Fat Joe]

like, yo, Biff, they flew with you? Yes, I brought my.

[Hard Rock Bet Announcer]

With me.

[Fat Joe]

This is early. This is.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[The Game]

This doctor's advocate. I look at every. It's my. My whole. This one, I'm traveling with 34 emx

[Fat Joe]

got kidnapped out there.

[The Game]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

All my.

[The Game]

Over here like this. I'm like. I can't see what they see. I'll come off the elevator.

[Fat Joe]

It's behind me. I don't look behind me. I look at my feet.

[The Game]

Everybody like. I'm like. They like. I look behind me, bro, it's 50

[Fat Joe]

with the African Union. Different kind of pressure.

[The Game]

Everybody got a machine gun bigger than bow. No, no.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but the machine gun, the machine guns.

[The Game]

I see that one coyote, the one that came and picked me up from the airport. The same spit, still hanging, same spot. I said, that's how I know it's serious. It's the same coyote. You almost gave a name. Look, he told me five shows. So I said to myself, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. I am. I'm gang. And I said, we in Africa. I said, you know what I got on this? Boys in the hood, Colors and minister. You know, they watch the movies. I'm from that. So, nigga, I turned around for a second, away from him. My Is my cousin Damo for sure. He looked at me, he was like,

[Fat Joe]

what you gonna do?

[The Game]

I said, I turned around that. I said, hey, I ain't doing no shows, blood. I said, you paid me for one show. He said, I paid you for five. I say, you pay me for one. I said, he, this nigga's not moved by my antics.

[Fat Joe]

He looked like Muhammad Ali, too. He's like a handsome.

[The Game]

He looked like the young Lami. He's not cap.

[Fat Joe]

He ain't got no white in his eyes.

[The Game]

So I tell this like you. I said. I said, you know where I'm from.

[Fat Joe]

You know how you ever seen it? No white.

[The Game]

I'm not doing the show. I got my kid's mother and my child finding lunch. He wasn't moved yet.

[Fat Joe]

Kiss. He didn't give a About baby kid.

[The Game]

So I said. I said, after I come from London, I come back and do the other four shows. Because I had to get negotiated. I had to get out of there.

[Fat Joe]

He said, okay, you come back four

[The Game]

days, you do the show, right? I said, all right. I called my kid's mom. She's like, yeah, we just landed in Heathrow. I said, okay, I'll meet y' all there. He took us to the airport. He got us in. He said, don't lie to me. And you know what he said after that?

[Fat Joe]

I don't know what he said.

[The Game]

I kidnapped dmx. I don't care. I said, you kidnapped X. That's one of the illest hood ever.

[Fat Joe]

It's only one thing.

[The Game]

Kidnapped

[Fat Joe]

Kiss. Hey, yo, Kiss. He kidnapped. Hey, Kiss. He kidnapped a kid. He kidnapped. Thought he kid. Yo, the US Embassy pulled up in the. In the parking lot. Cause they there, they know you getting that. So while you eating breakfast, there's, like white dudes standing over there going, okay, you're okay.

[The Game]

Blink twice.

[Fat Joe]

Do you know who you with? Yeah, they give me a card and was like, yo, you call us, we'll come to garage, get you out of here in the plate, get kidnapped, bust the car. No. What's out with that? You think you crazy? We all know. We know bust around.

[The Game]

I had a Yo, Bus ain't down.

[Fat Joe]

Like. He was like that crack this. I said, bro, it's no guns.

[Jadakiss]

Where you gonna let go?

[Fat Joe]

Where are you gonna. Yo, you know Bus.

[The Game]

He with all this.

[Fat Joe]

There's nothing.

[The Game]

Bus went out the back and got on, got had. I don't know who Bus called or who y' all call. You got a private jet out the got a mama.

[Fat Joe]

But you want to know who's the only guy. I gotta keep it real. Everybody you wanna know now, he just. Hey, bro, pause. I ain't gonna lie. He gets off on kidnapping. Hey, look, I paid a lot of money to get the biggest here from America. Now use can't me.

[The Game]

Hey, crack this nigga. That's a hey, we now. Now. Hey fast forward 15 years. 15 years, crack's over there living his life. You're living your life, I'm living mine. Bustin Nas. They're living their life, right? They a news a thing hit my. It say Casablanca arrested.

[Fat Joe]

That's the first time I was like, he, yo, get this out of here. The nigga is unfair.

[The Game]

First time.

[Fat Joe]

Hey, yo, I don't ever wait for a nigga. Let me tell you what he used to do to me, right? Cause I was really kidnapped for like two, three weeks. But I made the most money I

[The Game]

ever made in my life.

[Fat Joe]

I can't lie.

[Jadakiss]

You got him to pay?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[The Game]

Oh, here. Now he's growing.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, he's sending.

[The Game]

He the.

[Fat Joe]

I told you that. Opened the trunk with like 50 million and gave me 50,000. Looked like it was a toothpick. He had the most money. I wanted to kill him. Steal the money. I couldn't get out of Africa with it. I was like, there's no way. This is the one time I literally. God forgive me, D1. I throw the killing. Like, I said, yo, I should stab this shit out this and take this trunk.

[The Game]

Where you going, though?

[Fat Joe]

But I'm not going nowhere with all this dick. So I go like it was too much money. So I go like this. You know what he did to me? No, no. The money's falling. God damn. I must be talking some bullshit. Let me tell you something. The man go and say, no, we

[The Game]

can't be making no, no.

[Fat Joe]

But he looking at me and he just started laughing because he's Portuguese. Almost like Spanish. They used to talk to me in Portuguese. He's out laughing.

[The Game]

I look, he says, he tells me in Spanish, I know you're not Pussy Carter, Gina. You just can't do nothing.

[Fat Joe]

That nigga was telling me and stuff. I know you not Pussy Cartagena.

[The Game]

I could tell he respecting me the same way.

[Fat Joe]

He said, n had the nerve, right? All these years later, uncle dan is on FaceTime with a N. He turned around, he go, yo, Joe, he looking for you. Turn it into. He found you on Face Time. He said, come out here. I said, yo, my man, fuck out of here. Fuck out of here, nigga. Like, this ain't that. That ain't this. I'm not going out. I tell you no lie. I need your money like that like crap.

[The Game]

I tell you no lie. Every time a nigga. You know, Fred, Frenchie, Frenchie just hit me. We got 300,000 for you. After I said, how far is it from Ra?

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, not in. Is it close?

[Jadakiss]

Gotta be far.

[Fat Joe]

Cause I'mma tell you one person because we. I keep forgetting Akon, he tried it with Acon. Senegal came in there, shot it with Akon.

[Jadakiss]

The shit he did, they can't got Akon out of there.

[Fat Joe]

Said that Senegal army came in there on pride on them war planes and got Acon out of there. He's kidnapped dmx. I know Nas's team said cap, last time I said it, kidnapped Nas's manager. Hey, yo.

[The Game]

Hey, yo. Hold on, let me. I'm here now. Your friend, was it Ant, kidnapped one of his men?

[Fat Joe]

Was it Ant he kidnapped? I don't know which one, but it was all over the newspapers and it was with me. Oh, so he kidnapped me. Yas had got out of there early.

[The Game]

Ant was with me.

[Fat Joe]

Well, they said, Cat, you know how Fat Joe they put me in the mud. Musk, how you unstead that story?

[The Game]

How you reseal it?

[Fat Joe]

How you reseal it? Ant got kidnapped. Hey, bro, but listen. So I said that in one of these episodes and they said, yo, Cap, Joe, that didn't really. I saw it.

[The Game]

Cool.

[Fat Joe]

Let me explain something.

[The Game]

You.

[Fat Joe]

They couldn't play that with Acorn. Send a guy came up in there. They send the corporals Navy SEALs up in there. They said that Akon Diddy bopped out that like I said, I'm saying D1

[The Game]

to see what the hip hop do though sometimes the get you out of

[Jadakiss]

you See, listen, how you supposed to be regular with that? What you supposed to do right there, D?

[The Game]

I'm just saying. I'm not.

[Fat Joe]

Oh. High blood pressure was through the roof.

[The Game]

The monitor was going on. I'm not saying don't go get your bread, but if the named Ricano or

[Fat Joe]

Casablanca talk to your team first. Just. No, no, just.

[Jadakiss]

You already told me.

[Fat Joe]

There's some people. It's some people. I'm going to be honest. They still go said it. The positive thing is I made the most money I ever made in my life for that stress. I'm not gonna lie to you. If you're into money, just take an extra bag of clothes and just know you're staying two to three weeks. Don't try to get home. But it's gonna be a fault when

[Jadakiss]

you think you gonna.

[The Game]

Don't try the Tupac, Birdie or Butter Rim shit. I did. That ain't. He didn't flinch.

[Fat Joe]

Now, let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Just. Just to put it in perspective. Equatorial Guinea, South Africa, Nigeria, Garbonne. So many beautiful places. Morocco and Africa. There's places that you go, and it's so fucking beautiful. It's so. A fucking Cape Verde. It's so many places that you go. Angola, too. I love the people of Angola. We just got. We had a fucking time. By the way, if you Google this guy, he was the leader of the. When they had the war. He's the leader of one of those

[The Game]

civilians fighting the army.

[Fat Joe]

Killed like 10,000. Look, and I ain't gonna lie.

[The Game]

Word is the hyena still got the spirit.

[Fat Joe]

Put me on the hallucination. Let me tell you something. Yo, let me tell you something. I'm in Africa, by the way. I'm in Africa. I love me and y' all don't want to stay in Africa. I've been to every section of Africa. Somalia, Canberra, Kenya, Zimbabwe. Let me tell you, though, the fucking airplane is a great airplane, but the airplane's like a regular bus or cat. The shit stopped in every fucking. Hold up, I'm about to tell him something. I won't say who. Yes, listen, the airplane stop every half an hour. Like you going somewhere. Stop at the point like this, you know. Hey, hold on. Hey, Crack. Crack, hold on. Hey, Crack.

[The Game]

Hey, Crack, hold on.

[Fat Joe]

I've been there. Hey, Crack, Let me finish.

[The Game]

Hey, yo, wait.

[Fat Joe]

Let me finish. Hey, yo, kiss. Look, usually it's just you and him and some cool guy.

[The Game]

I'm here to vouch the stop.

[Fat Joe]

Like a transit, like a summit. Okay, we here. Hold up. One time it stops. Hold up. One time it stopped. Hey, I'm so glad. And I bought on.

[The Game]

I'm so glad my hallucination.

[Fat Joe]

One time I stopped.

[Jadakiss]

What happened?

[Fat Joe]

I brought on in the middle of the nowhere in Africa. And there's Game with a very famous chick on the plane in the middle of Africa while the plane is stopping. I'm like, yo, game, what's up? Yeah, I heard you turning yourself into jail next week. Yo, what's up, Crack? We talked on the Airbus. Airbus Air. But that was stopping like this. I said, all right, game. He was like, oh, just be strong.

[The Game]

The was telling, hey, yo, Crack, you know Crack stories. Long window. He right here. I said, the biggest. The motherfucker stop. The nigga tell me. Yo, we about to.

[Fat Joe]

We.

[The Game]

We gonna. I'm gonna tell you the rest when we take back off. That's how many times it happened, bro.

[Fat Joe]

No, that shit just happened.

[The Game]

When I read the book of Jose, I was like, ah, nigga, I don't need the book. It's just coffee table shit now.

[Fat Joe]

Cause I know the stories, nigga.

[The Game]

We talk forever. I love you, brother.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, listen. This is the Joe and Jada show. The biggest in the land, where we give everybody an opportunity to speak their true opinion. This is the game. But hold up. Let me tell you something. Yo, get out the way for a second. Let me tell you something. You don't know me. You think you know me. I'm more conscious and more revolutionary than

[The Game]

you ever thought in your life, okay?

[Fat Joe]

I'm from a place they call Godesville, where they used to sit out there and build all the time. You went to Latino. The black Latinos used to play the Congos from Africa. I'm from a place any other podcast like this would be terrified to get your views and opinion in the middle of the show. Not here, nigga. We ain't got welcome with open arms. We don't duck the face. Shout out to our brother D1.

[Jadakiss]

They so noisy.

[The Game]

I tell y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[The Game]

Cause I always like to hit my brothers with a game. Fact. You know Compton was called Comptonville. Comptonville. Before Comptonville was called Gibsonville. So if y' all ever hear me say Gibsonville, you know I'm talking about Compton. I don't want to do that.

[Fat Joe]

Let me just get one more question, because we gotta go. But what was the you trying to say about Kendrick Lamar? You're the only rapper from Compton from this. This is.

[The Game]

You the new flex. You the new Flex.

[Fat Joe]

I'm the new aside. But what is it? Are you trying to bait him?

[The Game]

This is why I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. No, this is what I'm saying. If you watch Kobe Bryant, right? Talk about Michael Jordan. And I'm just. I'm just giving you an analogy.

[Fat Joe]

I've seen it.

[The Game]

Kobe is never going to say that Michael Jordan better than me. He going to say that he better than me, but in the Kobe way. But no man with children and a woman at home is going to say another man is better than you at shit.

[Fat Joe]

Correct.

[The Game]

I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't walking around like, nah, he's a better carpenter than me.

[Fat Joe]

No.

[The Game]

So I'm saying I got the utmost love for Kendrick. He just broke Jay Z Grammy record. That is for us. That's cool shit.

[Fat Joe]

Legendary. That's hoes, right?

[The Game]

And in my studio, bro, in my recording booth, I got the book of hoes. I also have.

[Fat Joe]

You're a book of hoes. Yeah. Come on.

[The Game]

N is up. What came first? The chicken and the egg. We'll get to that later. What I'm saying is I'm from Compton. I drove by Kendrick when I got on around the time that KISS picked me up and I came back to lax. Kendrick seen me in Compton like I seen niggas before me, driving through the hood with the booming system with the gold chains. He has a song called Black Boy Fly. If you never heard it, you should go listen to it so he can tell you in his own words who he saw. So it wasn't motherfuckers out here, they're spinning how they want. Bold print or whatever. You know, we in the clip era. They'll clip it and make it spin it how they want. I got respect for Kendrick and everything he doing, right? The reason there's any type of little rift between me and Dot or Top or if there is, if you thought there were, is because Drake is my friend, right? Oh, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

He's my friend.

[The Game]

And again, I am putting the fucking.

[Fat Joe]

He's my friend.

[The Game]

There's a fork in the row where I gotta choose between my friend.

[Fat Joe]

But let me tell you something.

[Jadakiss]

Let him.

[Fat Joe]

Tell him. Let him finish.

[The Game]

All right, so look, I'mma tell you like this. I can call. Can we all agree that Drake is pretty fucking huge?

[Fat Joe]

He's my friend.

[The Game]

I got him on speed now. If I call him and tell him that Cali justice of Harlem want to come to the concert, he said send them at 6. I'm going to be right there to receive them. You know I love them like I love you. We going to put them where they need to be, right? Your kids are going to see everything that they want to see. Do they need over your gear?

[D1]

What's that plug?

[The Game]

So I'm saying I can't. So I'm saying if they go to war, then I'll be. I got to sit back like a fan of two people. And I guess I just got to watch it like everybody else, man.

[Fat Joe]

I do understand that. But let me tell you, this whole time we've been recording, the Hyena still

[The Game]

ain't touched the floor.

[Fat Joe]

Nah. This is Joe and Jada.

[The Game]

This is Robots.

[Fat Joe]

Hold on.

[Jadakiss]

This is the only episode that's too big. Continue. Because we got so much to talk about.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

This is the two.

[The Game]

This only episode with Kisses where Kiss

[Fat Joe]

will let you take his shot. You feel me? It's crazy drinking some.

[The Game]

In the center. We gotta take some flick.