The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"Joe and Jada - Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda on 50 Cent beefs, VladTV & NEW PODCAST The Real Report"
Date: December 18, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode features an energetic, disarmingly honest, and hilarious roundtable with hip-hop icons Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Joe Budden, Tony Yayo, and Uncle Murda. The conversation digs deep into the gritty history and realities of rap beefs, legacy, industry changes, loyalty, and the launch of Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda's new podcast, "The Real Report." Listeners get raw behind-the-scenes stories about infamous rap feuds, reflections on the changing landscape of hip-hop, tales of survival, loyalty, and plenty of laugh-out-loud banter.
Main Topics & Key Discussion Points
1. Welcome & Intros
- Introduction of Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda as members of The Volume family, promoting "The Real Report" podcast, launching in January (03:00).
- Joe Budden: "Going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together."
- Tony Yayo: "Exactly."
- Immediate display of camaraderie and celebration with 1800 Tequila toasts.
2. Loyalty, Legacy, and the “Rap Game”
- The crew reminisces about coming up together, surviving the streets, and building rap dynasties (03:41).
- Joe Budden: "...being a part of a legacy of a dynasty. You think of the end of the year Wrap up..."
- Each artist reflects on their backgrounds: Queens, Brooklyn, East New York, Southside Jamaica Queens.
3. Rap Feuds and the Reality of Beef
- Authenticity of past feuds: They unpack the legendary beefs: G-Unit vs. others, inherited disputes, and the real-life consequences (21:16–23:55).
- Fat Joe: "Everybody we beef with, I looked up to. I be in my man’s basement, I’m playing your first album … I didn’t have no beef with nobody. But 50 was the bad guy from 'How to Rob.'"
- Discussion of confrontational run-ins, e.g. "14 of y’all sitting on the curb,” flying home incidents, and near-violent encounters at airports (22:09).
- Fat Joe recounts his legendary confrontation with Young Buck:
- "He got two piece legend like. Oh, yeah, yeah. Young Buck, man, that nigga tried to front on me ... I blacked out." (25:06–27:45)
- Inherited beefs between management teams (e.g. Chris Lighty vs. Jimmy Henchman), and how feuds often came from loyalty rather than personal animosity (64:09–66:23).
- Fat Joe emphasizes the escalation and dangers: "We was in the Bentley, jump in, the BP came, walk by, lit the Bentley up in Harlem. That’s why I always say, watch them Harlem streets." (72:39)
4. Experiences Abroad & the Power of Rap Worldwide
- Touring stories and performing in places where the audience barely speaks English, yet knows all the lyrics (39:12–39:44).
- Tony Yayo: "When we go perform these records, they know all the words...get the f*** outta here."
- Jadakiss: "50 Cent, to some people, is like Superman."
- The transition from street hustling to international superstardom, and how exposure abroad brings perspective and a different kind of appreciation.
- Discussion of the enormity and dangers of fame, referencing artists like DJ Khaled and Marc Anthony needing serious security globally (40:33–41:43).
5. Changing Industry: VladTV, Streaming, and Modern Hip-Hop
- The phenomenon of making money as a personality, especially from VladTV interviews and YouTube, as opposed to selling music (09:19–10:32).
- Fat Joe: "You don’t have to drop music anymore. All you gotta do is go to YouTube … It’s a whole different new stream."
- Reflections on attention spans in music: "Is the new music microwave music?" (90:46)
- Evolution of how artists can now reach out directly to other artists for collaborations, bypassing managers ("...you can hit the artists yourself or direct yourself…" – 06:02).
6. Morality in Hip-Hop: Snitching, Loyalty & Selectivity
- Real talk about the ongoing debate of whether you can separate the artist from the act—listening to R. Kelly, Gunna, or 6ix9ine after their legal issues (43:11–44:19).
- Jadakiss: "I think right now, people really don’t care no more." (43:29)
- Discussion about selective acceptance of “snitches” in the industry, reflecting on how times and attitudes have changed (46:42–47:15).
- Fat Joe: "Is there such thing as selective niggas that we know as rats, and certain niggas don’t want to say?"
7. G-Unit Origins, Signing Stories, and Career Moves
- Uncle Murda details how he almost signed to 50 Cent before Jay Z, the wildness of early industry meetings, and how faith in yourself as an artist can both open and close doors (50:32–54:00).
- Tony Yayo: "He tried to make the whole 50 play happen..."
- Honest talk about artist-label relationships, loyalty, ego, and gratitude.
- Fat Joe: "It’d be hard signing artists ... they start feeling like they are the most ungrateful." (54:58)
8. Rap Battles, New York Loyalty, and the Mythos of Biggie & Pac
- The crew debates regional GOATs (“Ice Cube better than Biggie?”), and revisits the infamous “you look so good, I’ll suck on your ...” Biggie lyric (55:06–57:00).
- Jadakiss: "Ice Cube is one of the greatest ever lived ... But better than Biggie?"
- Strong insistence on giving props to anybody great, regardless of coast or politics.
- Vivid memories of being present in the studio with legends, and the emotional experience of Biggie’s death (93:46–99:19).
- Joe Budden: "That was our first time ever in L.A. I was with him … he was happier than I ever seen him in life." (96:33–99:19)
9. The Business & Evolution of Hip-Hop
- Anecdotes about artist longevity—Smokey Robinson, KRS-One, and others still selling out worldwide, while younger music can feel “microwaved.”
- Fat Joe: "I see KRS-One overseas, bro...everybody eats." (90:36)
- Hip-Hop as a business: new podcast deals, weed dispensaries, and the importance of helping each other get money in the new era (103:04).
- Joe Budden: "I can’t sleep right if I don’t get my partner some money." (49:00)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Fat Joe on the temptations of street life:
"Anything that seems too good to be true or seems too quick, you know… Every time it seemed too good to be true...it’s something." (11:58-13:14) - Jadakiss on loyalty and playing your position as an artist:
"I always knew my position. If I was number two, my brother was number one. I hold the door for him. I don’t give a f***." (54:23) - Fat Joe on surviving industry beefs:
“Every beef that we had, thank God nobody got hurt … to me, was inherited.” (65:14) - On rap stardom abroad:
"These people barely know English, right? But then when we go perform these records, they know all the words…" – Tony Yayo (39:17) - On storytelling and “the cap” in rap:
Uncle Murda and Yayo admit to amplifying their “shot in the head” story for industry buzz: "At the time, saying I got shot in the head was like…I'm like, this a super movie." – Tony Yayo (88:01) - On evolution and entrepreneurism:
"We not only podcast brothers, we brothers as well...We got the new weed dispensary...We into the weed business now." – Tony Yayo (103:04) - Jadakiss on aging and relevance:
"Your fans, you gotta stop aging out. We gotta stop making hip hop…like you feel like the new music is microwave music..." (90:43)
Highlighted Segments with Timestamps
- Introduction to “The Real Report” podcast: (03:00–03:10)
- Unpacking Rap Beefs; Fat Joe’s run-in with Young Buck: (24:50–27:45)
- Gigging Internationally, Audience Response: (39:12–40:13)
- Morality in Listening (R. Kelly, Gunna, 6ix9ine): (43:11–44:46)
- Artist Business, Signing Stories (Uncle Murda, Yayo, 50 Cent): (50:32–54:00)
- Debating GOATs—Biggie, Cube, East vs. West: (55:06–57:00)
- In Studio with Biggie, Reflections on L.A. & His Death: (93:37–99:19)
- Origins of Beef – Chris Lighty vs. Henchman, Inherited Conflict: (64:09–66:23)
- The Cap of “Shot in the Head” Story: (86:37–89:28)
- Legacy and Business – Podcast, Dispensaries, Helping Each Other: (49:00–54:00 & 103:04–103:21)
Tone and Delivery
The conversation is loose, high-energy, full of realness, and loaded with inside-joke rapport. The hosts oscillate between laughter and gravity, moving fluidly between wild stories, candid admissions, and hard-earned wisdom about loyalty, survival, and the real costs of hip-hop success.
Summary for New Listeners
This episode is a must-listen for fans of hip-hop culture, rap history, and streetwise business. You’ll get:
- Untold behind-the-scenes moments about rap beefs and reconciliation.
- A candid look at the cost of authenticity and legacy.
- Iconic stories from life on the road and the hazards of fame.
- Discussion on how hip-hop’s rules and codes have changed.
- Encouragement for new entrepreneurship and collective wins in the culture.
The episode is both a celebration and a cautionary tale, delivered with all the charisma, humor, and tough-talking wisdom you'd expect from legends of East Coast hip-hop.
