Joe and Jada - Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda on 50 Cent beefs, VladTV & NEW PODCAST The Real Report

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Joe and Jada - Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda on 50 Cent beefs, VladTV & NEW PODCAST The Real Report"

Date: December 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode features an energetic, disarmingly honest, and hilarious roundtable with hip-hop icons Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Joe Budden, Tony Yayo, and Uncle Murda. The conversation digs deep into the gritty history and realities of rap beefs, legacy, industry changes, loyalty, and the launch of Tony Yayo & Uncle Murda's new podcast, "The Real Report." Listeners get raw behind-the-scenes stories about infamous rap feuds, reflections on the changing landscape of hip-hop, tales of survival, loyalty, and plenty of laugh-out-loud banter.

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Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

1. Welcome & Intros

• Introduction of Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda as members of The Volume family, promoting "The Real Report" podcast, launching in January (03:00).
  • Joe Budden: "Going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together."
  • Tony Yayo: "Exactly."
• Immediate display of camaraderie and celebration with 1800 Tequila toasts.

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2. Loyalty, Legacy, and the “Rap Game”

• The crew reminisces about coming up together, surviving the streets, and building rap dynasties (03:41).
  • Joe Budden: "...being a part of a legacy of a dynasty. You think of the end of the year Wrap up..."
• Each artist reflects on their backgrounds: Queens, Brooklyn, East New York, Southside Jamaica Queens.

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3. Rap Feuds and the Reality of Beef

• Authenticity of past feuds: They unpack the legendary beefs: G-Unit vs. others, inherited disputes, and the real-life consequences (21:16–23:55).
  • Fat Joe: "Everybody we beef with, I looked up to. I be in my man’s basement, I’m playing your first album … I didn’t have no beef with nobody. But 50 was the bad guy from 'How to Rob.'"
  • Discussion of confrontational run-ins, e.g. "14 of y’all sitting on the curb,” flying home incidents, and near-violent encounters at airports (22:09).
• Fat Joe recounts his legendary confrontation with Young Buck:
  • "He got two piece legend like. Oh, yeah, yeah. Young Buck, man, that nigga tried to front on me ... I blacked out." (25:06–27:45)
• Inherited beefs between management teams (e.g. Chris Lighty vs. Jimmy Henchman), and how feuds often came from loyalty rather than personal animosity (64:09–66:23).
• Fat Joe emphasizes the escalation and dangers: "We was in the Bentley, jump in, the BP came, walk by, lit the Bentley up in Harlem. That’s why I always say, watch them Harlem streets." (72:39)

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4. Experiences Abroad & the Power of Rap Worldwide

• Touring stories and performing in places where the audience barely speaks English, yet knows all the lyrics (39:12–39:44).
  • Tony Yayo: "When we go perform these records, they know all the words...get the f*** outta here."
  • Jadakiss: "50 Cent, to some people, is like Superman."
• The transition from street hustling to international superstardom, and how exposure abroad brings perspective and a different kind of appreciation.
• Discussion of the enormity and dangers of fame, referencing artists like DJ Khaled and Marc Anthony needing serious security globally (40:33–41:43).

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5. Changing Industry: VladTV, Streaming, and Modern Hip-Hop

• The phenomenon of making money as a personality, especially from VladTV interviews and YouTube, as opposed to selling music (09:19–10:32).
  • Fat Joe: "You don’t have to drop music anymore. All you gotta do is go to YouTube … It’s a whole different new stream."
• Reflections on attention spans in music: "Is the new music microwave music?" (90:46)
• Evolution of how artists can now reach out directly to other artists for collaborations, bypassing managers ("...you can hit the artists yourself or direct yourself…" – 06:02).

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6. Morality in Hip-Hop: Snitching, Loyalty & Selectivity

• Real talk about the ongoing debate of whether you can separate the artist from the act—listening to R. Kelly, Gunna, or 6ix9ine after their legal issues (43:11–44:19).
  • Jadakiss: "I think right now, people really don’t care no more." (43:29)
• Discussion about selective acceptance of “snitches” in the industry, reflecting on how times and attitudes have changed (46:42–47:15).
  • Fat Joe: "Is there such thing as selective niggas that we know as rats, and certain niggas don’t want to say?"

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7. G-Unit Origins, Signing Stories, and Career Moves

• Uncle Murda details how he almost signed to 50 Cent before Jay Z, the wildness of early industry meetings, and how faith in yourself as an artist can both open and close doors (50:32–54:00).
  • Tony Yayo: "He tried to make the whole 50 play happen..."
• Honest talk about artist-label relationships, loyalty, ego, and gratitude.
  • Fat Joe: "It’d be hard signing artists ... they start feeling like they are the most ungrateful." (54:58)

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8. Rap Battles, New York Loyalty, and the Mythos of Biggie & Pac

• The crew debates regional GOATs (“Ice Cube better than Biggie?”), and revisits the infamous “you look so good, I’ll suck on your ...” Biggie lyric (55:06–57:00).
  • Jadakiss: "Ice Cube is one of the greatest ever lived ... But better than Biggie?"
• Strong insistence on giving props to anybody great, regardless of coast or politics.
• Vivid memories of being present in the studio with legends, and the emotional experience of Biggie’s death (93:46–99:19).
  • Joe Budden: "That was our first time ever in L.A. I was with him … he was happier than I ever seen him in life." (96:33–99:19)

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9. The Business & Evolution of Hip-Hop

• Anecdotes about artist longevity—Smokey Robinson, KRS-One, and others still selling out worldwide, while younger music can feel “microwaved.”
  • Fat Joe: "I see KRS-One overseas, bro...everybody eats." (90:36)
• Hip-Hop as a business: new podcast deals, weed dispensaries, and the importance of helping each other get money in the new era (103:04).
  • Joe Budden: "I can’t sleep right if I don’t get my partner some money." (49:00)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Fat Joe on the temptations of street life:
  "Anything that seems too good to be true or seems too quick, you know… Every time it seemed too good to be true...it’s something." (11:58-13:14)
• Jadakiss on loyalty and playing your position as an artist:
  "I always knew my position. If I was number two, my brother was number one. I hold the door for him. I don’t give a f***." (54:23)
• Fat Joe on surviving industry beefs:
  “Every beef that we had, thank God nobody got hurt … to me, was inherited.” (65:14)
• On rap stardom abroad:
  "These people barely know English, right? But then when we go perform these records, they know all the words…" – Tony Yayo (39:17)
• On storytelling and “the cap” in rap:
  Uncle Murda and Yayo admit to amplifying their “shot in the head” story for industry buzz: "At the time, saying I got shot in the head was like…I'm like, this a super movie." – Tony Yayo (88:01)
• On evolution and entrepreneurism:
  "We not only podcast brothers, we brothers as well...We got the new weed dispensary...We into the weed business now." – Tony Yayo (103:04)
• Jadakiss on aging and relevance:
  "Your fans, you gotta stop aging out. We gotta stop making hip hop…like you feel like the new music is microwave music..." (90:43)

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Highlighted Segments with Timestamps

• Introduction to “The Real Report” podcast: (03:00–03:10)
• Unpacking Rap Beefs; Fat Joe’s run-in with Young Buck: (24:50–27:45)
• Gigging Internationally, Audience Response: (39:12–40:13)
• Morality in Listening (R. Kelly, Gunna, 6ix9ine): (43:11–44:46)
• Artist Business, Signing Stories (Uncle Murda, Yayo, 50 Cent): (50:32–54:00)
• Debating GOATs—Biggie, Cube, East vs. West: (55:06–57:00)
• In Studio with Biggie, Reflections on L.A. & His Death: (93:37–99:19)
• Origins of Beef – Chris Lighty vs. Henchman, Inherited Conflict: (64:09–66:23)
• The Cap of “Shot in the Head” Story: (86:37–89:28)
• Legacy and Business – Podcast, Dispensaries, Helping Each Other: (49:00–54:00 & 103:04–103:21)

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Tone and Delivery

The conversation is loose, high-energy, full of realness, and loaded with inside-joke rapport. The hosts oscillate between laughter and gravity, moving fluidly between wild stories, candid admissions, and hard-earned wisdom about loyalty, survival, and the real costs of hip-hop success.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a must-listen for fans of hip-hop culture, rap history, and streetwise business. You’ll get:

• Untold behind-the-scenes moments about rap beefs and reconciliation.
• A candid look at the cost of authenticity and legacy.
• Iconic stories from life on the road and the hazards of fame.
• Discussion on how hip-hop’s rules and codes have changed.
• Encouragement for new entrepreneurship and collective wins in the culture.

The episode is both a celebration and a cautionary tale, delivered with all the charisma, humor, and tough-talking wisdom you'd expect from legends of East Coast hip-hop.

Transcript

[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Joe Budden]

Welcome to Real Report to the Valium family which is Tony Yayo, Uncle Murder. They have their own podcast on Valium.

[Tony Yayo]

We part of the Valium up family.

[Joe Budden]

Going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together.

[Tony Yayo]

Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Let's toast some 1800 you heard.

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely, definitely.

[Joe Budden]

Dropping in January.

[Tony Yayo]

Dropping in January.

[Jadakiss]

The Real Report. What up y'? All? This is Joe Crack the dog.

[Joe Budden]

You know who it is. Your boy Jada. The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we fucking crushing shit. Pardon my friendship Killing them.

[Fat Joe]

Don't party.

[Jadakiss]

Fuck them all.

[Joe Budden]

When you think of today's guest.

[Fat Joe]

That's right.

[Joe Budden]

Think of loyalty. You think of controversy.

[Jadakiss]

Somebody give me a lighter. Who got a lighter?

[Joe Budden]

Think of. Of course you think of cannabis. You think of history and the rap game. You think of surviving. You think of starting from the mud and being a part of a legacy of a dynasty. You think of the end of the year. Wrap up. You know what I mean?

[Jadakiss]

This is time. You think of Queens that Mariah Carey.

[Joe Budden]

Think of Brooklyn that man.

[Jadakiss]

Keep coming back at the end. East New York, East New York.

[Joe Budden]

South side, Jamaica, Queens.

[Jadakiss]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guests today. Tony Ayo and Uncle.

[Jadakiss]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Tony Yayo]

I like that introduction.

[Jadakiss]

Kiss. Whoa.

[Joe Budden]

You know I always gotta take care of my people.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah. I personally been waiting for this episode since we started the podcast. We started the podcast. This guy said, yo, we fucked with him too much. I said, jada, who you want? And they were saying, dick Gregory, Bill Cosby, motherfucker. He can't. Wendy Williams, Mom's Cecil. Like, shit. I was like, yo, by the way, Jada, I don't know if, you know, we ain't get none of these N on here. I think we can get Yayo and Uncle Murder. I think the ratings will be great.

[Joe Budden]

I give them a list that I know they wasn't going to get. None of them asking me for people, and they really don't get none of my people. Know what I'm saying?

[Jadakiss]

Hold on. He wants to rock.

[Joe Budden]

Rock Crab P, he's just his ad. I asked for regular. Not regular, but I asked for people that I thought would have been no brainer. Know what I mean? They kept spinning. They. I got this got. They call theyself having a meeting. Yo, let's get together. Let's ask Jada. Me, I was in the crib smoking. Now they want to keep playing with me asking.

[Fat Joe]

But, Jada, you got to hit him yourself.

[Joe Budden]

I sent them a crazy J.

[Fat Joe]

You gotta hit. You gotta hit him yourself. You gotta. You gotta hit whoever you want on the show yourself, cuz. You Jada Kiss.

[Jadakiss]

That's what I'm saying.

[Fat Joe]

I'm just keeping it real.

[Joe Budden]

That's the next season. I got negotiating power, yo.

[Jadakiss]

It's a lot of.

[Tony Yayo]

I like.

[Jadakiss]

I like that.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm paying attention. I'm paying attention.

[Fat Joe]

I think right now, we in the times where things change, where you can hit the artist yourself or direct yourself. Like, yo, I need you on the show.

[Joe Budden]

They know we have these relations, man.

[Jadakiss]

Ain't want Muhammad Ali, he asking for cash's clay. He asking for bread, not Malcolm X. The man want the. I said, that's. You know, you two's are partners. This is my partners. So when he come with the list, I said, that's for they ass. You know, they kept asking him. They kept with me over here. Who want Whitney Houston back.

[Joe Budden]

This is fat Whitney Houston saying, the craziest that man got. Ladies and gentlemen, pardon. Pardon my partner.

[Fat Joe]

He's wild.

[Jadakiss]

Now I'm fried, but yo, we got yay, yo.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, we in the building, man.

[Jadakiss]

Uncle Murder, Uncle Murder, this is your time.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, listen, when you see the Christmas trees, you gotta throw a win. How we crushing, nigga? Somehow you gotta.

[Tony Yayo]

You already know. Joe, Joe, Joe told me that as soon as I walked in here.

[Jadakiss]

He said, listen, Rookies of the year.

[Joe Budden]

Rookies of the year.

[Jadakiss]

That's a fact.

[Tony Yayo]

Y' all crushing shit.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all crushing.

[Tony Yayo]

That's a fact. That's a fact. Y' all crushing shit.

[Fat Joe]

So do y' all have stylists or y' all dress yourself?

[Joe Budden]

Nah, this is all out of pocket, baby. We.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm just saying do a stylist. Pick your clothes or do you?

[Jadakiss]

Most of the times I pick my own. But I do have.

[Fat Joe]

We have Jones.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I got Danny. Shout out to Danny. But today, Danny is with her grandmother. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

But sometimes the artist playing out of.

[Joe Budden]

The closet, I do he be out of the closet, too. Put it together.

[Jadakiss]

I got an outfit, cuz. 50 supposed to come. I got a premeditated outfit. No, no, I got the 50 cent outfit. I already got Christmas Square Garden. That gonna catch the blue. You know, west side. Gunnar, when he come on here, that gonna be like flashlight. Then this gonna look. He gonna be like, God damn, my s came up in this. I got the 50 cent outfit. Pre med. I got quick.

[Fat Joe]

So look, if you rushing, how do you get fly? Cause if you rushing, you know, when you in a crib and you rushing, you just kind of.

[Jadakiss]

I really don't want to tell you, Yayo, because I don't want these people to think of like, I go to supermarket Dip fresh. You'll be a Fendi sweatsuit. A Louis Vuitton sweatsuit.

[Tony Yayo]

Let that.

[Fat Joe]

Why you gotta get fresh to go to the supermarket.

[Jadakiss]

I got to.

[Fat Joe]

I'm from the suburbs, man. I'll be having.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm from the suburbs.

[Fat Joe]

In the suburbs. Now I got my sweatpants on.

[Jadakiss]

I see you got the quarter. I see you got the quarter. Zip. No more nights right there. That boy you might be the most. See, we all hustle, right? Me, him, all of us, right? You know what I'm saying? One day. You are a highly paid hype man, right? One day you doing your cannabis, opening up cannabis joints, the next day you on Vlad. I think you're the most.

[Fat Joe]

That's just where I can give you an example.

[Jadakiss]

No, no, no. This is where I'm going.

[Fat Joe]

Go ahead. I'm gonna give you an example.

[Jadakiss]

I think you have the most. You make more money off of doing your Vlad interviews. And doing them interviews, like, that's a 9 to 5 like that right there. You got that budget. Like, you know how somebody got. I make 200,000 a year. I think you do that with this Vlad.

[Fat Joe]

I don't want to disclose the numbers, but. But he, he, he. He makes a lot of money off me, too. Yeah, it's like, yeah, YouTube. Like, you don't have to drop music anymore. All you got to do is go to YouTube and you got Instagram. Now it's a whole different new stream. You know, like, when you get in the car, you think about it. You really don't listen to radio no more. Your car got Apple Play. It got all this other serious radio, all kinds of stuff. And then when you in the house, I'm going on YouTube. I'm just keeping it real. It got to be an ill show on TV for me to go to tv.

[Jadakiss]

Nobody could with you. Nobody could with you. Nobody could with nothing. You do certain people that whenever they do an interview, I gotta press.

[Fat Joe]

I think. I think what people like is that I got substance. Like, I think the money don't really mean nothing to. Cause y' all been. Y'. All. We all legends in the game. Keep it real. Like, I think it's the experiences. I got a billion dollars worth of experiences. I don't got a billion, which I did. You know what I mean?

[Jadakiss]

But you gonna turn it into.

[Fat Joe]

Just like we just did. J. Bowden. When we went in the crowd, I'm like, damn, fuck rap. This man got 80,000 people here. Six hour show, real talk in Columbia. Look, none of nobody kn. The surprise guest was. He had 30 surprise guests. I'm like, yo, so he did this 80,000 by himself. Yeah, I'm ready to start rapping in Spanish. For real. Like, you. Like I'm looking at the crowd. We came out. It's just a whole different type of atmosphere out there. Like experiences like that, you know?

[Joe Budden]

You know, these, these.

[Jadakiss]

Well, shout out to y' all for going to Columbia. What was that?

[Tony Yayo]

Columbia crazy sniffing the bags. They serious with them drugs out there, man. I had a bag that some weed came in. Just in. No, wasn't no weed in my bag, though. The dog knew that it was weed somewhere around. He was crazy on my bag. He was in my bag. I'm like, they pulled me to the side.

[Jadakiss]

Martana leave like, Honduras.

[Tony Yayo]

He was like, yo, yeah, they were playing Colombia. Yeah, they serious.

[Fat Joe]

Think about it. You can sniff the what you think of brick course in Columbia. Should probably like two GS if you want a private jet. They like.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah, they. They travel.

[Fat Joe]

They like word, but. But like that, them experiences, you know what I'm saying? Going to Columbia, J Balvin, coming out with that like that.

[Jadakiss]

You talk about the temptation, right? I had a guy, I told Jada off the. Off the thing one time. But I had a friend of mine, when I say he was the king, like, he had all that crippy, all that shit in Miami, anything they was selling on that in Washington Heights. One day he did a meeting and looked like the golf father. Everybody who wanted to kill each other was at the table. I'm sitting there, Fat Joe, the rapper, like, Jesus, I know him from Miami. Old Cuban guy. I don't know how he knows these niggas in Harlem, Queens was there. All them niggas was there at the table, right? I'm sitting there with everybody we thought was a. A drug lord in New York. This nigga was the. And he's just my friend from Miami. But the point is, he used to tell me all the time, yo, just fill the tour bus up with the yala. You go up one time I got. And I'd be like, it's tempting. But I was like, yo, I ain't coming up in the game to get caught up with a bus.

[Fat Joe]

They call that canine, you know?

[Jadakiss]

Yeah. But the Temptations, you know, anything that seems too good to be true or seems too quick, you know, if you feel like even if you trust a nigga and it's too quick, sky tells me. I'll tell you a story sky tells me. Just me. No, no. One of my man, me and one of my mans, me and one of my man's fell on hard times at the same time. When I met him, he had 48 condos. And Crip. This nigga was loaded. But the feds, when they. When they took my money for taxes, they caught him for some shit, right? So he comes home, he said, yo, Joe, where you at? I say, yo, come through, pick you up. So he drives me and he stops in the place in Miami. He said, yo, there's a boat there with like 4,000 keys. If I just take it and move it, I can make like 2 million right quick. I know the nigga for 20 something years. This and this and that. So I looked at him, I said, yo, I said, you just did about five. I know shit is fucked up, but you a hustler, man. You gonna find a way to get this bread. You gonna find a way to come back. I don't know. I know you know him for 20 some years, but every single time, it's like Boston George in blow. Every time it seemed too good to be true, that it's the layup. It's right there. It's something. So he ain't do it now. He's super caked up, know what I'm saying? He flipped this shit to the music business. I don't want to say who he is, but now when I see him, I be like, you know, I told you not to go in that fucking. Don't take that boat. You know what I'm saying? He took me there. He was like, yo, Joe, they got the boat there. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, I don't think you should fuck with it. And sometimes it's that one little. That one little thing where you know, you know what I'm saying? You know, when you caught, you caught. When the niggas grab you, you don't know what you caught for, but you like, damn, I done did too much shit.

[Tony Yayo]

They got.

[Jadakiss]

Let me see what they got. Stay quiet. Let me see what's going on. Because when they got you, they got you. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, thank God he ain't do it. But that temptation that.

[Fat Joe]

Think the average brother from the street would have did that. 4,000 keys, keeping it real. Murder don't front like you boat. Don't say you wouldn't try to snatch that boat.

[Jadakiss]

No, I know, but he needed a fat. He needed a fat Joe to tell that nigga Skinny Joe, yo, you know I'm skinnier than I ever been. I went to the doctor. Took long.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Joe, well, your health journey, man.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, buy me 242. Or you can be 2 32, 22.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, pre meditated.

[Jadakiss]

Let me tell you something, man. I ain't never been 242 in my life. I'm like the movie Shallow. How I still think I'm Fat Joe. So when the man told me 242, I said, you sure? He's like, yo, 242. You know, just give or take the shirt. Might be two pounds, you might be 240. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like the movie where the dude keeps saying that he. She sees she fat, but she's skinny. Like, I think I'm Fat Joe. Like, I swear to God, I move like a fat Joe. But I actually lost mad weight. This shit is bugged out. Like, it looks.

[Fat Joe]

That first movie you was in as a kid, you was fat in that. I ain't gonna lie. Do you look at your movie and be like on the train? What was that movie you was in?

[Jadakiss]

It was called Prison Song. But I was fat man in the hood ever in life was Fat Joey 2 years old. 1 years old. They was always.

[Fat Joe]

Because how old? You was like 16. You was a big kid in that movie. You was like.

[Joe Budden]

He was old in it now.

[Fat Joe]

He was like 16, 17 in a. Listen, when we was. Nah, it was a movie when you was a real little kid. You know what I'm saying? It was probably like the first movie you ever been.

[Joe Budden]

You thought he was in Fresh.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, not Fresh.

[Jadakiss]

I can't with that. I'm over here thinking that. No, but I am Chucky from Fresh, yo. Like, I am Chucky from Fresh. Meaning if you ever wanted to know what Fat Joe was in his childhood.

[Fat Joe]

Most of the dope moves. That was my man, right?

[Jadakiss]

Exactly him. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Busting them dope moves. That was a classic.

[Jadakiss]

That was me.

[Fat Joe]

I always took all the old movies. Is better than the new movies now, bro. Fresh was a classic.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

But that was me by far. They.

[Joe Budden]

They can't figure these new movies out.

[Fat Joe]

They trying to do Scarface too. That's ridiculous.

[Jadakiss]

I don't too late for that, right?

[Fat Joe]

I think it's just a rumor I.

[Joe Budden]

Seen yesterday they doing Kareem Akbar from here.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah, New Jack City. I said, how they doing that? They gonna make it work. I guess they gonna figure it out.

[Jadakiss]

You know your man 50 done put the son of a tiger. The that nigga's on power 67. Like that created that you could bring a back his cousin, his nephew pop off. They like that cypher going on. I bet you there's a somewhere in there. Like I'm gonna get a spin off. Like me. I'm gonna Kareem.

[Fat Joe]

Spin off. Gotta work though.

[Jadakiss]

No, it gotta work. But you know, I mean, obviously that man know how to make the work.

[Tony Yayo]

Of course.

[Fat Joe]

And I Think with TV is timing because there'd be times where there's nothing on tv. Like, all right, cool. You had Godfather.

[Jadakiss]

Harlem.

[Fat Joe]

That was dope.

[Jadakiss]

I love that.

[Fat Joe]

You had snowfall. That was dope. Power was out at that time. I'm locked into all three of them shits right now.

[Jadakiss]

I'm Mayor Kingstown. You know about Mayor Kingstown.

[Joe Budden]

Yesterday?

[Fat Joe]

The Olympic face. She put me on. On.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Mayor Kingston.

[Joe Budden]

How many seasons it came.

[Jadakiss]

Four seasons. But they move fast. You're gonna love this.

[Fat Joe]

You're gonna love Kingston. I'm check.

[Jadakiss]

I love that out in uk.

[Fat Joe]

You was watching that? Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Top boy was crazy.

[Tony Yayo]

I never got to that.

[Fat Joe]

Top boy was crazy.

[Jadakiss]

Well, you know what? I never got with. And y' all gonna kick. I mean, his flags ahead of time. I throw it at myself. But snowfall, it started too slow for me. And Rich was watching everybody.

[Fat Joe]

Snowfall. Classic, bro. You bugging that one. You produced that again? Passed away, right? Rest in peace. That wasn't classic snowfall, was it?

[Jadakiss]

Singleton.

[Fat Joe]

What's the actor name that put him on?

[Jadakiss]

John Singleton came to me. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

For snowfall.

[Jadakiss]

We had no. We had. Yo, you full of shit. Yo, this guy. Yo, listen.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I was thinking. I was. I did think it was.

[Jadakiss]

Guy's a man.

[Fat Joe]

Subliminal.

[Jadakiss]

When I watch the episodes, I see him shooting me from it. Like, this guy's the guy.

[Fat Joe]

You.

[Jadakiss]

You stay here. The Benny Blanco told him. No, you stay here. I watch the episode. I get the. Yo, he's killing me from the side.

[Joe Budden]

He thought you was about to say John Singleton came to you for snowfall.

[Jadakiss]

Don't kill me for the.

[Fat Joe]

That's crazy. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Kill me from the shot. Y' all are late.

[Fat Joe]

I needed a red flag for that one.

[Joe Budden]

See, that's. I didn't even hear that.

[Jadakiss]

Y' all didn't hear that.

[Joe Budden]

I was too busy thinking they wouldn't end it.

[Fat Joe]

Give me some more flags. I need some more. What's going on, man? Give me a red one, too. That was a red one.

[Jadakiss]

Old school.

[Fat Joe]

I know, but come on.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody know.

[Fat Joe]

They was like. Everybody was on Joke. I only want to repeat that one, yo.

[Joe Budden]

That it was either you or the dude from the uk.

[Fat Joe]

We in a new generation.

[Jadakiss]

We had beef with y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Jadakiss]

We had beef with y'. All. We're not elaborating on that. But you know what? The biggest used to get me mad when you used to do this. Stick a talk. Stick it. Talking.

[Fat Joe]

This.

[Jadakiss]

Talking to me. This right here. Yo that. Yo that know he doing this. Ah, you know what? Oh, My God.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody we beef with, I look, they.

[Jadakiss]

Thought it was this.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody we beef with, I looked up to. I be in my man fat shot basement. Rest in peace, D.J. rough hands. I'm playing your first album. I'm playing like I'm a fan. I'm listening to Cam. I'm listening to Jada. So we in the basement listening to y'. All. So for me, it's like, I didn't have no beef with nobody. But, you know, 50 was the bad guy from how to Rob Punished him.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

On the first album, I was kind of excited about that recipe. We in the car, capital punishment. Yeah. I take 50 head off.

[Jadakiss]

50 said rapper, real funny, gets your nut off in real life. You don't know me. I blow your look, we wasn't on.

[Fat Joe]

So we in the. I'm in the basement listening. Y' all said my name even Jay. I'm about a dollar. What the is 50 Cent? We was excited. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That reached and know who he is in the man.

[Fat Joe]

Who you are?

[Joe Budden]

You are. We going to lax. I'm flying home. It's me and Groovy Lou. Shout out to groove.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to groovy.

[Joe Budden]

It's 14 of y' all sitting on the curb. Good thing they didn't go, like, to the right. Hell, yeah.

[Jadakiss]

You hit him with the O.J. simpson groove.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Cause Battle was G unit right there with extra that want to catch felonies. It was one of them. Please let this door right here be open.

[Fat Joe]

I'mma tell you. I'm going tell you one time. I'm in the district.

[Joe Budden]

We gotta run to the gate. Y' all didn't even see us. It was one of them. I'm GLAD it was 18 deep. It was me and my nigga that only eat plants. You know, I didn't stand a chance, dog. I said, yo, please let this door right here be open.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, you know what?

[Joe Budden]

We gonna go to this door and get to the gate.

[Fat Joe]

I always think nothing ever happened. Like, one time, I'm coming out the Diamond District, and, you know, Pistol Pete was like.

[Jadakiss]

Like.

[Fat Joe]

He just was, like, considered the most grimiest nigga. Like, yo, this catch you. He's the jail nigga. He done been up north. He's gonna catch you. Knives, all that. You know I told you about the Spanish sombrero.

[Jadakiss]

I wrote that in a rhyme recently.

[Fat Joe]

I seen that nigga coming out the district. You know, when you know these, you just know when niggas are killers. Like, he had two little. These niggas was like, four foot One.

[Jadakiss]

They never left the.

[Fat Joe]

But you could tell. I'm like, nah, these. I had niggas with me too. Thank God. But like, you could tell the two little niggas he had, they get busy. I could just tell. I could.

[Jadakiss]

See, I'll tell you breaking news. If I never. I never told nobody or said this story before. Cause we saying that I might as well. But you know, I caught Young Buck in that time.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, shit.

[Jadakiss]

I never heard that story.

[Fat Joe]

You know he ain't gonna tell 50. That.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, caught Young Buck.

[Fat Joe]

Tell us the story. Cause he ain't gonna tell 50, man.

[Jadakiss]

He got two piece legend like. Oh, yeah, yeah. Young Buck, man, that nigga tried to front on me. He said.

[Joe Budden]

They put heads on.

[Jadakiss]

I'm telling you.

[Joe Budden]

Supposed to be no head.

[Tony Yayo]

No.

[Jadakiss]

All right, so no story or you want the story?

[Fat Joe]

I want the story.

[Tony Yayo]

I was never. I never heard this story.

[Joe Budden]

I'm out.

[Jadakiss]

So I'm at like a. A winter jam, not a summer jam.

[Tony Yayo]

Found out Fat Jones and put hands on Young Buck. Now that's just thinking of some shit.

[Joe Budden]

My.

[Tony Yayo]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Fat Joe]

Keep writing. Murder.

[Tony Yayo]

Keep writing. I'm over here writing while we doing.

[Jadakiss]

To this point, he said, yo, Fat Joe, A real. You never told that. So to this point, he said, fat Joe real. I didn't. We was talking.

[Joe Budden]

You already said it.

[Jadakiss]

All right. It. Nah, fuck that. Finish that shit.

[Tony Yayo]

Go ahead.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I need this shit.

[Tony Yayo]

Finish that shit, Joe.

[Jadakiss]

Damn. I want to go to Nashville, Tennessee one day.

[Fat Joe]

It's all good.

[Joe Budden]

Supposed to go out there and I need.

[Jadakiss]

You ain't got nothing to do with this.

[Joe Budden]

He just dated my money in Nashville.

[Fat Joe]

So what happened, man?

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. Non stuff.

[Fat Joe]

I'm.

[Jadakiss]

He fronted on me. So we in Chicago, right? And if you talk about the pistol beat little niggas. No, I had the ugly ones with me.

[Joe Budden]

The ugly ones.

[Jadakiss]

Ugly ones with me, right in Chicago. And so I'm coming off stage. It's like a summer jam, but a winter jam. It was winter, right? So everybody on there, Young gz, Fab. There was a lot of witnesses too. Nobody be. I don't know. They don't never tell my stories with. When I'm the victor, I never hear the story. You know what I'm saying? So I'm getting off the stage, and it's dumb dark. Like, it's mad dark. And there was somebody up on the second thing and he was like, yo, crack. Yo, crack. But I just got off stage. I'm whipping it down Chicago. I'm walking down. Yo, Craig, you hear Me n. I look up. Oh, it's young Bob. I got a water bottle in my hand. Fuck out of here. I throw the water bottle. One thing I said, come down, pussy. Come down.

[Fat Joe]

Come down, y'.

[Jadakiss]

All. No, I'm going crazy. Oh, no. I don't never get, like.

[Fat Joe]

So when he came down, I don't know.

[Jadakiss]

I don't get tested. Like, it's very hard to test me. Yay. Yo, I'm telling you, I'm going. I just black out. So I'm waiting for the. The nigga up there, he gotta come down the staircase, right? So I'm losing my mind, right? Like, y' all come. There come. He had a bunch of niggas with him, too. A bunch of Chicago dudes with him, right? So the cops come, and they form like a. A barricade. Like, just like five cops, they. They close the staircase so he won't come. He took too long to come down, by the way. Like, you know, when you see a nigga, you ready to tear him up, you down.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jadakiss]

He's taking too long, right? And so when he comes down, he's in the staircase, and he's trying to tell me, like, yo, this ain't got nothing to do. But he was just talking crazy. He tested me to see if Fat Joe was pussy. You know, a lot of niggas is pussy.

[Fat Joe]

They actually just wasn't standing up. Like, he said, hell, no.

[Jadakiss]

It was at the height of the beef. Oh, so he's in the staircase. Yo, I wasn't this and that, but he poked his head out just one second over the cops thing.

[Fat Joe]

What he do?

[Jadakiss]

The Barber hit him.

[Fat Joe]

So what he do?

[Tony Yayo]

Even the Barber hit him.

[Jadakiss]

He hit us with the mop bag. Yo, it wasn't like that. This, this, that.

[Fat Joe]

Damn.

[Jadakiss]

Then we jump. I tell you, I had to. That. That was.

[Tony Yayo]

I had the ugly with my bad. I'm just thinking little lines against.

[Jadakiss]

No, I'm just telling you. It was like, yo, yo, right? Yo, yo, yo. It happened.

[Fat Joe]

I never heard this story. It's the first time I'm telling you the truth. That's great.

[Jadakiss]

Not believe a lot of stories we never heard.

[Fat Joe]

Hurt.

[Joe Budden]

He still don't want to come up here.

[Jadakiss]

He can't come up here anyway because the nigga ain't down with the movement no more. He can't come up here, say his. What he gonna say? I tell him in his face. Come on, Jada, you with.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I never look.

[Joe Budden]

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[Tony Yayo]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Jadakiss]

Today.

[Fat Joe]

You want to talk about Buck? I never look, I never had a problem with Buck. I never kicked him while he was down. I just think, you know, back in the days you know, come on, we from New York. When we was at war, it was all grimy tactics. I could tell you your grimy tactics. I could definitely tell you your grimy tactics. Remember when he got green land fired back in the days? You remember that?

[Tony Yayo]

No green Linton swings on here.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, Green is fan.

[Tony Yayo]

Green is family.

[Jadakiss]

No, Greenland is no green family.

[Fat Joe]

You got to watch Jada and Beef, man. That's all I can tell you.

[Tony Yayo]

Family.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all don't remember that.

[Jadakiss]

Everybody gets it on the this out. This is yo and this is Yo. And. This ain't no regular.

[Fat Joe]

This ain't no regular.

[Jadakiss]

We talking that what happened.

[Fat Joe]

What he yo, we was talking last night like, yo, we really in the Rock Nation building. What's the plan? But I, you know, shout to rock. That was the red flag.

[Jadakiss]

I'm like, oh, toughest person in this building is Jay Z sister. You see how you stay away? Sis don't play that. Sis don't play that.

[Fat Joe]

She unit Beef. You don't remember that? They hurt my feelings and a lot of beef. They like to kill you on wreck. They kill you.

[Jadakiss]

Oh, no, they going hard.

[Fat Joe]

Hated that beef. There was nights I was like, hurt a feeling. So look. Nah, niggas hurt my feelings. So look, Jada styles them n hurt your feelings in the power. You too, Joe. You just be going in. So I forgot what it was. We was beefing and Green Lantern was djing for Eminem. True story. And Jada recorded him. He was talking mad them.

[Jadakiss]

He didn't even say that.

[Fat Joe]

So it was mad. It was mad funny. Y' all talking secret strategic battle. But to this day, I wanted to ask him on this show.

[Joe Budden]

Strategic Greenland.

[Jadakiss]

Did you get him fired?

[Joe Budden]

He got fired.

[Fat Joe]

Did you record him? Keep it real.

[Jadakiss]

You recorded him before, and that's dangerous.

[Joe Budden]

He was involuntary.

[Jadakiss]

You're a recorder. I gotta watch the movie during the beef.

[Fat Joe]

And he put it and how to get out. How did that get out before?

[Joe Budden]

Insta this before.

[Fat Joe]

It was strategic. I state.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, I be talking with Jada. I be like, I be talking to Jada. I'd be like, man, these white over here, man. They trying to diss. And this watch why I sat around this.

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask you.

[Jadakiss]

We might be under.

[Fat Joe]

When I used to with you on that record, I always with Joe. Because you was a gangster to me. I'm like, nah, these a gangster. But I never got it. While you were scared to fly, I was scared.

[Jadakiss]

I'm still scared to fly.

[Fat Joe]

I said that on the record.

[Jadakiss]

I looked out the window today. I was like, thank God I ain't got to be on a plane. I could never get over that. Evan, y' all be private all the time. Let's talk about this.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not scared.

[Tony Yayo]

Bowling a.

[Jadakiss]

What's the best you ever ate in Turkish.

[Joe Budden]

You've seen eating bison burgers.

[Jadakiss]

This waffles. Yo, this guy. Yo, yo, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, cakes, caviar.

[Jadakiss]

Listen, listen, Let me tell you something. We used to have a little. Little beef with Jay Z, right? We won't elaborate on that, right? Hip hop. And that man would say, no, that's not a boy. It. But the man, every time I thought he said a verse around me, he would be like, In Puerto Vallarta, $100 million steak flying over. This guy, he don't like the. I'll be like, damn. All he gotta do is touch that. That paper. Ain't nobody seeing him with the paper. That's your shit. When niggas try to diss you, you be like, yeah, I was eating the Turkish Bolognese eggs in the morning.

[Fat Joe]

Look, you could have more money than me. I have a billion dollars worth of experiences like, how you say, Jay? I'm in the Swiss album doing my own tours, so y' all could do that, but certain artists can't do that. Jada, y' all could go overseas and do shows. I'm quite sure you do. We. Where was we at? We was in Turkey.

[Jadakiss]

Germany.

[Fat Joe]

We was in Germany. Germany.

[Jadakiss]

We had breakfast.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all got legendary record.

[Tony Yayo]

Came about having breakfast in Germany.

[Fat Joe]

We had breakfast Bolognese. We ate breakfast.

[Jadakiss]

Hollandell eggs. We sat down. He start slopping. He said, man, who would have thought we'd be eating breakfast with each other in this.

[Fat Joe]

Other country? And then on that, when you in Europe, there's no guns really like that. No, it's. It's. It's laid back, you know, there's no food coloring. You ain't gonna find frosted flakes and all that. You gonna find caviar and all that in your.

[Tony Yayo]

Last night.

[Jadakiss]

I was at Nobles with. With my wife. And for no reason. Security. He looked like Israeli or something. Like, he was like. He staring at my table. I'm like, right. The nigga dead ass staring at me. I'm like. I felt uncomfortable, right? I mean, because we a noble. Everybody's hump. Why do I gotta be the thug, nigga? You wanna. He obviously was somebody's security. And he was on me like I was do. I'm chilling with my family. I'm looking at him. Then he gets up his fucking David Beckham, Victoria Beckham walks out the fucking Noble. I'm saying, but why had a whole niggas in here. They told him, watch him. I'm not bothering him or nothing like that. I'm sitting there like that. But you know, that's that stereotype shit right now back know.

[Joe Budden]

You know now. Yeah, I've been to some incredible. I'll be following y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Joe Budden]

I can't even pronounce some of the places y' all been doing shows.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What is it like in them other regions and they sold out and crazy.

[Tony Yayo]

What is it to me that should be crazy? Like, I've been rolling for the last year from the trenches. Like, you know, for me, for the last 10 years with fifth, that been like, next. Next month make 10 years ass. That should just be crazy. Like, you know what it'd be to me seeing that these people barely know English, right? But then when we go perform these records, they know all the words to the records. It's like, now they know English. I was like, get the out of here.

[Jadakiss]

The like, Superman.

[Tony Yayo]

This is amazing.

[Jadakiss]

50 cent to some people is like Superman. Yeah, that should be bugging my people in Dubai. They say they learned the news from 50 Cent. All they news in America. They tell me 50 cents the news. They watch him, okay? This is what's going on. And that's how they know when they lie. 50 Cent report the news, too.

[Fat Joe]

For me. For me, I. I always say I don't want to be on a like a 50 cent, Jay Z, Nas level or certain artist level because it's like, you can't go outside and still don't even have to do that.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So for me, you'll be in a suite. You staying in your room. 50 staying in his room. All right. Bet we got. Got to connect some dude. Yo, we gonna go to stay in Paris. We gonna eat at that restaurant. Oh, yo, we gonna go to Dubai. They got a fancy restaurant for us to eat, or they want to go to ski Dubai in the mall or something like that. So the bigger you are as an artist, me just gets a little.

[Jadakiss]

I'm the reason Khaled got security. We went to Turks and Caicos. It was Covid. I did my 50th birthday, right? Khaled took me out there, and we in the middle of the ocean. I look at the nigga, I said.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you too, too.

[Jadakiss]

You too big of a star now. He was like, what do you mean? I said, you need. Because he never had security. I was like, you need Security. I said, like, real security. He said, what you mean? I mean, like, niggas in front of your house and all that. Cause you know Selena, it was her number one fan who killed them. This nigga, everywhere I go with him is, oh, oh. Everybody wild. And I'm like, you might get killed by one of your fans. Like John Lennon and all the.

[Tony Yayo]

No, I'm telling you, it's like that.

[Jadakiss]

You get to that point, I do a show. I tell you a story, Street. I do a show in Miami. I sell it out. Maybe like 3,000 people. Bay front. I'm sitting in the back. Five fans snuck in the back to get a little autograph. You know they snuck through, right? Yo, crack, yo, one pick this. All right, cool. Unannounced, Mark Anthony comes out of nowhere. He pulls his boat up, comes unannounced. 1000 niggas in the back. Oh, my God. Picture Marquette. I said, yo, it's different level of fame. That man cannot go in the restaurant.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, bro, we. We did a show. I think we was in Columbia again. This. This years ago with Yinsen and Vindell and, yo, I'm telling you, shout out to Edgar. This. This dude. That's why I tell you about the Latin market. We playing soccer with JLO early in the morning.

[Jadakiss]

I'm like, what the fuck?

[Fat Joe]

That's JLo. Niggas playing soccer. Just.

[Jadakiss]

Fuck.

[Fat Joe]

That's the experience I could tell you about. So she bought Mark Anthony out. I got pictures of him on Instagram and everything. So he came out and he started singing Banida Ba Ditto. And the mic went out and the crowd just kept going crazy. Of course, Egg of fired the mic man the next day, but he was like the Michael Jackson of fucking Latin music.

[Jadakiss]

Yes, yes.

[Fat Joe]

I'm like, oh, shit.

[Jadakiss]

He's the only guy. Well, he's one of them now. Cause that. That whole shit just got big. But for many years, he was the only guy that could come today and be like, concert in Madison Square Garden tomorrow. That shit sold out of 10 minutes. Like, he done ran that fucking play so many times. Like, he'd be like, all right, Barclays. All right, Madison's like, he just. And sold out, sold out, sold out, sold out, sold out, sold out. Like this. It's never been a sold out show for Marc Anthony. He's like Mary J. Blige and R. Kelly combined type shit. Like, he's that like, Mark Anthony. We going.

[Fat Joe]

You still listen to R. Kelly?

[Jadakiss]

Huh? Yeah, I still listen to R. Kelly.

[Fat Joe]

I was listening to Big shot. Who can't you can't.

[Tony Yayo]

Because I feel like his music didn't catch his sh.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, you want to.

[Tony Yayo]

I like that one.

[Jadakiss]

So you listen to Gunna music. Hold on, hold on. We got conversation. So it's no problem if a guy rats. You listen to their music and stuff.

[Fat Joe]

I think right now, people really don't care no more.

[Jadakiss]

Don't care no more. We like dinosaurs.

[Fat Joe]

It's like if you make good. If you could make good music regardless to what? Look at six nine. Like, oh, I'm gonna still.

[Tony Yayo]

He didn't make good music.

[Fat Joe]

Okay, okay, no, but listen, Joe, that.

[Jadakiss]

Nigga bottom of the barrel. That nigga's the gook in the project dumpster.

[Fat Joe]

Hold on. When 6ix9ine got out of jail, right?

[Jadakiss]

I can't do it.

[Fat Joe]

Did he have a record with Nicky right when he got out of jail?

[Jadakiss]

When he got out of jail, he went on to have 2 million pieces hit.

[Fat Joe]

It was a hit at the time.

[Jadakiss]

It didn't age well. It didn't age well.

[Fat Joe]

The views, man.

[Tony Yayo]

It didn't age well.

[Jadakiss]

It didn't age well.

[Tony Yayo]

It got like some paid promos and then if it dropped right after that.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, listen to me.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, Joe, we in the. Listen to me, all right?

[Jadakiss]

Well, I.

[Fat Joe]

People don't care. They just want good music.

[Jadakiss]

Joseph Anthony Cartagena has the right not to listen to say a nigga's a fuck nigga, and I ain't fucking with nothing he's doing or nothing he's saying or nothing he's doing or nothing. And I don't.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody on that case took a plea.

[Jadakiss]

Hold up. But no.

[Fat Joe]

Gunna took a plea. Thugga took a plea.

[Joe Budden]

I was just about to.

[Fat Joe]

Cause it was on camera. You a rat. It's not like he co rapperin'. He was guilty already.

[Jadakiss]

I'm not calling him a rat.

[Fat Joe]

As you're saying, it all took a piece.

[Jadakiss]

You triggered something. Cause we started with R. Kelly, we went into Gunna. You're podcasting now. You gotta know that we're potting out here.

[Tony Yayo]

Oh, oh.

[Fat Joe]

Changing my life, everybody.

[Jadakiss]

Why not?

[Fat Joe]

Changing my life.

[Jadakiss]

Why not? If the young boys are doing the streaming and they caking up, why you can't.

[Fat Joe]

Hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Should we just do our toast now?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let's.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta make.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what? I agree.

[Fat Joe]

Come on, let's do a toast. Let's go.

[Tony Yayo]

I agree.

[Fat Joe]

First.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to 1800 Tequila. 1800 Tequila.

[Jadakiss]

Strictly the. The best.

[Tony Yayo]

Can we get some assistance over here?

[Joe Budden]

Matter of fact, I was about to. This is Joe and Jada.

[Fat Joe]

Thought I had beef with him. He got a Wu Tang shirt on.

[Jadakiss]

You have beef with you, Tank.

[Fat Joe]

Look, everybody that I 50 beef with.

[Jadakiss]

50 ain't beef.

[Joe Budden]

What are we doing? A mixed drink.

[Jadakiss]

50.

[Tony Yayo]

I gave. I gave Ghost Face. I gave Ghost Face a pound at this at the power premiere, right?

[Joe Budden]

Y' all go straight up Real talk.

[Tony Yayo]

I turned around and looked at my man Yayo.

[Joe Budden]

Let me go straight.

[Tony Yayo]

He said, moving funny, huh?

[Fat Joe]

Supposed to be my man.

[Tony Yayo]

I said, what happened? He said, you know, I got issues with this.

[Jadakiss]

I said, whoa, I forgot. I'm not gonna lie to you, J. Yo, I said hi two days in a row to two suckers. I said hi to two suckers two days in a row. I'm not gonna lie to you. I won't tell you who, but I'm just saying. Another rat, he ratted on y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Jadakiss]

I'm up in the. The store and he happened to be up in there. He sticks his hand out. I'm like, yo. He tried to actually like Mike. I was like, yo, boom. That was. But I wasn't supposed to say hi to him, right? And then today when I came up in some dude, you know, he was like, yo, Joe, you remember me? I'm such and such. I was like, yo, another sucker nigga. Like two days in a row.

[Fat Joe]

Can I ask you a question? Is there such thing as selective niggas that we know as rats? And certain niggas don't want to say.

[Jadakiss]

Very selections with the.

[Fat Joe]

I mean, even.

[Jadakiss]

Even me.

[Fat Joe]

If it did for me, I was.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at Joe. I can't. Joe say even me.

[Jadakiss]

Even me. I say, what's up to certain rats when I know they he's a rat. I ain't got no business saying hi. It's selective.

[Fat Joe]

Shit is real now. Cause. Just. Cause. Could we agree just cause he is real, he ain't a shooter.

[Total Wireless Announcer]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What about the rats that are killing?

[Fat Joe]

They'll kill you.

[Jadakiss]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

Killer rat.

[Tony Yayo]

That's a killer rats out here.

[Jadakiss]

Thank you, brother.

[Fat Joe]

Damn.

[Jadakiss]

He gave me the big yo.

[Joe Budden]

1800. Ladies and gentlemen, you gotta make a large, extensive announcement.

[Jadakiss]

You heard?

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to Real report to the Volume family, which is Tony Yeo. Uncle Murder. They have their own podcast on Valium.

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely. We part of the Valium up family.

[Joe Budden]

They going through the Joe and Jada feed. That means we getting money together.

[Tony Yayo]

Exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Let's toast some 1800.

[Jadakiss]

You heard?

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely, definitely.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out.

[Joe Budden]

Dropping in January.

[Tony Yayo]

Dropping in January.

[Jadakiss]

The Real Report.

[Joe Budden]

I need them to have 500,000 subscribers out of the gate. Let's go.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, well, let me tell you.

[Tony Yayo]

And we definitely wanted. And this happened crazy. This happened on the strength of Fat Joe. We seen them in Germany. Can't even lie. We seen. We seen Fat Joe at Germany. Me and Yay was talking about some things that we was trying to do with. No, Joe was just like, what D I'mma get you the situation then. Yeah, he actually got the situation. So Joe Rich play. I see you, Rich.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to Rich, too. Rich player. Fake G Unit.

[Joe Budden]

Hold on, hold up. I have to kid. I don't want to thank me. They came to me and said, what do you think about murdering yo?

[Fat Joe]

I said, hell, yeah. Let them hold.

[Jadakiss]

Shout out to my kiss. You heard? Shout out to my J to kiss.

[Joe Budden]

Flowers for that my business partner.

[Tony Yayo]

Damn, Joe. You ain't mentioning that. Joe.

[Fat Joe]

I'm just jo be busy, man.

[Joe Budden]

My job.

[Jadakiss]

I can't sleep right if I don't get my partner some money.

[Joe Budden]

So I love it.

[Jadakiss]

That's my job, okay? So I'm always thinking about my business partner. And whatever we do, I can't have this shit fail. I can't have him walking in the street. Somebody. Yo, you believe I put in six, eight months with Joe, man, we ain't making a dollar. This, this. I need him to win because he believed in me. And I said, yo, let's do this. So I need him on the mountaintop.

[Joe Budden]

This is the Vapors, man. They ain't think we could do it, man.

[Jadakiss]

No, we knew we can.

[Tony Yayo]

N Y did that. I did that.

[Joe Budden]

I did that.

[Fat Joe]

And they the best dress.

[Joe Budden]

Get off the vape.

[Jadakiss]

Let me tell you something.

[Fat Joe]

I think what's your dress but all that. What's y' all dress but. Cause I'm not spending all my money on that.

[Jadakiss]

You ain't gotta do that. If you don't, don't start it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, regularly you good. Get your set where you can smoke. Make your shit leisure for you.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you. You know what they always say about G niggas. They know how to dress. Because we ma' am own shit of just wearing hoodies. These is good work.

[Jadakiss]

My man is 50.

[Fat Joe]

Was on that Hermes and all that way back was wearing the uniform.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

So if you wear a uniform, that's how the G Unit clothes were selling.

[Jadakiss]

Let's not talk about G Unit fashion. Yo, listen. Yo, Mur, let me tell you something.

[Fat Joe]

You ain't.

[Jadakiss]

No, I do. I do something I never understood.

[Fat Joe]

Murder.

[Jadakiss]

Something I never understood. How did you get into GU like you were fucking. Yay. Yo, how did this happen? How did you get Fitz like Tetris with the. He wasn't in the original G unit.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what it was fifth tried to sign me damn near before Jay Z, right? Cause I was. I was. God, rest in peace. I was managed by Chris Lighty.

[Jadakiss]

I remember that.

[Tony Yayo]

The rest in peace, Chris Lighty. Chris was trying to make. He tried to make the whole 50 play happen.

[Joe Budden]

Before Jay Z seen that you fit with the.

[Tony Yayo]

He seemed like, yo, this is perfect. But you know what? It was. I had a meeting up there with Chris. He called me to the office one day, and he like, yo, we gonna. I just get there, me and a couple of my guys. And he don't tell me 50 is coming in the meeting. He don't say, like, yo, we gonna meet with 50 today. So I'm just there, Me and a couple of my guys, we chilling. Everybody, you know, at that time, niggas running around so crazy. Everybody got their shit in their pocket. We also. We there, 50 just busting the meeting.

[Jadakiss]

Boom.

[Tony Yayo]

What's up? Looking for a deal. And at this time, I said certain shit about 50 like, coming up. So I was already talking shit about everybody in the game. So when he pop up, I'm like, oh, nah, he on some bullshit.

[Jadakiss]

This is setup.

[Tony Yayo]

That's that way. Cause he come to like, you looking for a deal deal. I'm like, yeah, not from you. He like, yo, listen, man, I heard that you said about me. He said, you don't know me, though. He said, ain't no real beef. You don't know me. But young. So at the time, I'm thinking, nah, he's trying to line me up. You know what I'm saying? So we have. We going back and forth, having mad dialogue, talking about. He's like, what you think Jay Z.

[Jadakiss]

Gonna come for you?

[Tony Yayo]

I'm like, yeah, Jay gonna come. Yeah, Jay gonna come for me. Brooklyn. He talked. We going back and forth. Then he asked me and my people. Was one thing.

[Jadakiss]

He said, yo, man, what y' all.

[Tony Yayo]

Niggas think y' all gonna sell if you drop? I said, what? Oh, we gonna go. Shit, we gonna go gold.

[Joe Budden]

Platinum.

[Tony Yayo]

The first week, nigga. In his head, he was like, you know what? It don't matter. He told me years later, he's like, yo, at that point, when y' all niggas was like, yeah, we gonna go gold to platinum. He said, I knew it didn't matter what I did for you. At that time, y' all would have felt like y' all already was gonna do that on Your own. So you probably was gonna flip on the N. Say, because you thought this shit was be gonna gonna. You thought this was gonna cross off anyway.

[Fat Joe]

This is the you.

[Tony Yayo]

So he thought, like, he was looking like. He was looking like, yo, damn, you. At that time, y' all already thought y' all was bigger than what it was. So I couldn't do nothing for y'. All. You would have flipped on the. You would have thought, nah, we was gonna do this already. So he was like, yo, it's crazy how now everything worked out perfect. How it was like now. Cause it was crazy. After Jay came for me after that time, I seen him. So I seen the math. They're like, yeah. I thought you said Jay wasn't coming, nigga. He was like, oh, well, let's see what he do. Cause we. I still had to go to Valley or you know what I'm saying? So we still a bumping to each other. So he like, all right, let's see what Jay do. Like, I had the Brooklyn record. I'm feeling myself, nigga. Brooklyn record. I, I, I'm popping. Jay leaves Def Jam shortly after that. I run him the fifth again. He brought everybody outta that Governor's Island. I think you was there too. He brought everybody outta Governor's Island. He caught me in the truck. Cause he, I didn't even know he was in the truck watching all the artists get on the ball boat, going to the to the Allen to perform. So fifth was just happened to be in the truck. So somebody came to see your 50, want to talk to you. Like, where he at? This ain't right there in the truck. I get in the truck, he go, yeah, what happened with that Jay Z shit? I'm like, yo, yeah, it didn't work out. He said, listen, if I get another situation, we gonna make this shit right this time. And that was years ago. But then we wind up making it right and worked out perfect. You know what I'm saying?

[Fat Joe]

You know was the problem when he was so stupid that, yeah, this guy go, no, he was 50 cent. He was dumb.

[Jadakiss]

But you know what's crazy, though?

[Fat Joe]

We felt like just like how you had Terror Squad and certain artists could feel like they are Fat Joe after a while. Same thing. Delusional.

[Jadakiss]

My.

[Fat Joe]

So he was delusional. The bag was. You felt like that.

[Tony Yayo]

You, you felt like that.

[Fat Joe]

The bag was there for.

[Jadakiss]

He understands it now just like you. We all understand it. Me, me, I always knew my position. If I was number two, my brother was number one. I hold the door for Him. I don't give a fuck. I'm not lying. The umbrella for pun. I don't give a fuck. I know my position. I've always played. But right now, I could play my position right now. If a Billy come and be like, yo, we find the whole Joe and Jada. But, yo, you gotta. I know my position. Give me my 100 million. I know my position.

[Tony Yayo]

Nigga said give me 100 million based on my position.

[Jadakiss]

Oh, no, I gotta.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I got eight. It'd be hard signing artists and having artists because they start feeling like. You know what I mean, they the most ungrateful.

[Jadakiss]

How about hip hop? Right? Hip hop. If we talk about hip hop in a hole.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, man, you want to get into that for real? It'll be a debate in here.

[Jadakiss]

I don't know what it. What you think I'm talking about?

[Fat Joe]

Oh, I said, like I was.

[Joe Budden]

You don't even know.

[Jadakiss]

Let me hear him, Jada.

[Fat Joe]

I was going to say, like, fucking yayo. Like, for me, like, one of my biggest debates on Nori show was when niggas said. Said Ice Cube was better than Biggie, right? So I just be looking at, like. I heard DJ Self say, yo, Ice Cube better than Nas. I'll be looking like, no, he delusional. I just be bugging. Cause, like, I'm always gonna give my honest.

[Jadakiss]

Ice Cube is one of the greatest ever lived in the history of mantime. But better than Biggie. Look, I got Biggie at no. At number one and maybe number two.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I got Biggie. You. You rap with me, y'. All. You know what I mean? You rap. So for me, like, when I'm out of town, I'm arguing with Slim Thug backstage on. On tour. And the first thing, they always use this one line against Biggie. That just get me tight. You look so good. I suck on you.

[Jadakiss]

Suck your damn. Look, it's the original pause, even.

[Tony Yayo]

But it's still a pause if you say it now.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but they got into him up top. I got his light with the to.

[Jadakiss]

That was pa. Yo, B. I don't know if you know how changed I rolled for Big. I had so much problems in the West. Him we could have helped you. O came out after you left.

[Joe Budden]

That's how Hilly was. He died mad years before Pa even invented.

[Jadakiss]

Listen, listen, what I'm saying, though, you see B out there, you be like, yo, B.

[Fat Joe]

That people use when they talk about Big. He looks so good. That didn't that come from like a comedian or something like that?

[Jadakiss]

It don't matter old school, but that's.

[Fat Joe]

I fight for New York. When I'm out of town, I fight for New York.

[Joe Budden]

It's like the Fed.

[Jadakiss]

I'mma keep it real with you. I'm a New Yorker. But if you nice from anywhere, I give it up on the left.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Give it up more than with the Mecca. I take us against anybody.

[Fat Joe]

Thank you.

[Jadakiss]

Of course, of course. But what I'm saying to you is right now, you know, now the way they try to switch, they try to act like Eminem wasn't the greatest at where he came by Eminem is that you don't know that. Then you let me ask you question. You don't hear them saying that.

[Joe Budden]

I hear stupidity.

[Jadakiss]

You don't know what in 1800 I'm better at tequila. He's starting to speak with fluidity, this guy. You know, this guy is.

[Joe Budden]

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[Jadakiss]

This is bad.

[Joe Budden]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Jadakiss]

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[Joe Budden]

Oh, speaking of fluidity, I was watching the Knicks game, and you can never take Clyde's job if you can't use words like ubi. UBI used the word U. I was ready to call you say, oh, hang it up.

[Jadakiss]

Tr. He got his grammar.

[Fat Joe]

The.

[Jadakiss]

His grammar. Ubiquist. This guy, Clyde Frazier. You know, Knicks. We doing good. You a Knick fan?

[Fat Joe]

You know, of course.

[Jadakiss]

Look, we're winning. It's never been a time where you could just look at the Knicks and just assume we're winning. I watched the game last night for no reason. We won by 20. I'm watching.

[Tony Yayo]

You know, they gonna win, you know.

[Jadakiss]

But what I'm saying is they keep coming up to me. White, Jewish ladies, Asian ladies, everybody.

[Fat Joe]

They saying, you.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, Carl, Anthony. Gotta go. We need Giannis. So I'm this, ladies, Giannis, Giannis. If Art. What is it? Art Basu. They coming up to me, hey, Nick fan. I'm like, hey. He was like, call Anthony. Gotta go. Damn, we need Yan. I said, damn, we winning.

[Fat Joe]

I don't think so.

[Jadakiss]

We went to the final.

[Joe Budden]

Leave it. Leave it how it is.

[Jadakiss]

Leave it how it is. Right, right. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

But if we. If we could get Giannis without giving.

[Fat Joe]

They gonna want you to give up the whole team? Damn near the whole team for Giannis.

[Tony Yayo]

They trying to give up OG too, right? They talking about og?

[Jadakiss]

No, he giving up the whole team.

[Joe Budden]

Be stuck with Brunson and Giannis, then we gonna be back to Gramps, Then everybody gonna be mad.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah, they ain't lying.

[Fat Joe]

Leaving.

[Joe Budden]

They already changed.

[Tony Yayo]

I see that. I see that.

[Jadakiss]

We gotta rewind the tape to the Stephen A episode where he was up there. He hiding with.

[Joe Budden]

Stephen A. Said, give him the dances, I'll give him the Knicks, get rid of everybody.

[Fat Joe]

To be honest, I give up the.

[Joe Budden]

Dance, get the dances, couple trades, couple people off the bench.

[Total Wireless Announcer]

If they.

[Joe Budden]

They gonna win. Carl Anthony Towns, OG Bridges.

[Jadakiss]

So let me ask you something, right? Our beef in the past was more like if we bump into them, them, it's on World War 73. But you allegedly had beef where they shooting at your house and shit like that. Is this true?

[Tony Yayo]

No.

[Jadakiss]

No. I'm asking you.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

So they were shooting at you, you're eating dinner and bullets are flying through the window.

[Fat Joe]

Every beef that we had, thank God nobody got hurt off that to me, was inherited, right? So, of course, look, so when you look at Chris Lightning, rest in peace to Chris Lightning, you know, that's all we knew was Chris Lighty. We go to the. There's, you know, any kind of artist is there. Everybody's getting managed by Chris Lighty, right? So down the block was Henchman. Henchman was down the block from Chris.

[Jadakiss]

Lighty's office, right on the block.

[Fat Joe]

4040 was on the corner. Henchman was right here, and Chris Lighty was right there. So that was more like an inheritance. Like the beef was inherited. There'd be a lot of shit like niggas be like, Yo, 50 hate. Nah, it be a lot of shit behind the scenes. Don't even know that. I could tell you that's like, ain't no Henchman and Bitey had a fight at daddy house. I ain't never them got it on. Yeah. Like Henchman was pressing that. You know what I'm saying? You know how it was. It was golden era back then. You remember when Chris had beef with my son and them back in the days, like, it was a lot of going on.

[Tony Yayo]

Positivity.

[Jadakiss]

I think I squashed that beat.

[Fat Joe]

So I'm not. Look, I'm not going to say look.

[Jadakiss]

Yes, sir, bro. Don't play with me, Jada.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, look, I'm not going to say Henchman.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't I had to beat.

[Jadakiss]

Look at Parkchester. I had the meeting at Parkchester the very next day for Chris Lighty to squash that beef, right?

[Joe Budden]

Hold that right there.

[Fat Joe]

Go ahead. So with the Henchman, I'm not going to say it wasn't a serious beat be. If you do something to somebody's son, I expect you. You know what I'm saying? Supposedly to. To get busy. Supposedly. Whatever happened with him, right? So look, this how everything really started. And I'm not in jail. Everybody know what happened. I ain't telling. I ain't driving. Who kid started the whole thing. I'm gonna tell you why. DJ Hooky. Oh, y' all not.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, honey, I need a green flag. All right, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[Fat Joe]

Look, I'm fresh out of jail. I don't know nothing. I don't know. I don't like. All I know is Vicki do always.

[Tony Yayo]

Tell me this story, though.

[Joe Budden]

So there you go, man.

[Fat Joe]

I'm fresh out of jail. I don't know nothing. All I know is fifth got niggas on. I was with this nigga from 1998 when he was doing router. Router and fucking on Columbia Records. I was fucking with him back then.

[Jadakiss]

You like Kobe, you like Kobe Bryant. To me, I hated him while he was alive. And when he died, I cried 12 hours. Hours. This here. I hated him because he rolled with 50. But I love disloyalty. I was like, man, we need a.

[Fat Joe]

Like gotta understand. I was with 50 since 1998. That was the homie. Like, we was going to Columbia Records. This is before he got shot records with Destiny's Child in the studio, getting kicked out the studio. I was there for all that. You know what I'm saying? So that's just the homie. That's the first. I'm a hood. That first thing. We went to Mexico. I think it was the deep cover soundtrack. He was on Rowdy Rowdy back then. And we went to Cancun. I'm like, damn, I'm off the block with DJ who kid, I'm fresh out of jail. Niggas give me a Bentley. I got jewelry, I got the Jacob watch.

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Fur.

[Fat Joe]

I'm fur on. I'm fucking running through Brooklyn.

[Joe Budden]

You doing this yet?

[Jadakiss]

I'm doing this yet.

[Fat Joe]

Look, I'm taking chances that I could have got smoked any day. I'm like in four green. I'm in the plazas, I'm. I'm on. I'm fucking seeing may know in Brooklyn. I'm in Harlem, running the niggas like I'm in the Bentley. I'm everywhere, anywhere. I just didn't care. I came outta jail, was reckless, young nigga didn't know Nothing, right? So UK's like, yo, what's my man that passed away? Let's go to the mixtape awards. Was it DJ Justo? Rest in peace, DJ Justo. Mixtape Awards. I'm hyped cause we was on all the mixtape. I didn't know Apollo was gonna be Rikers island nigga when I got there.

[Tony Yayo]

Should have never went to no fucking mixtape.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, look, versus this shit was like Rikers Island.

[Fat Joe]

That's what I'm saying. So look, we get to the mixtape awards. I had no idea. I'm just out of jail. I'm like, I ain't knew she was going to be Rikers. Allison Apollo was Rikers. Attica Green that was walking the yard. Blood in there.

[Jadakiss]

I got a story.

[Fat Joe]

Crazy son. Wasn't no chick.

[Jadakiss]

No, that was crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Look, it was no chick.

[Jadakiss]

I know those environments.

[Fat Joe]

Nothing but gangsters. So I'm Looking around.

[Jadakiss]

No, you walk in the wrong environment. You. You like, yo, what is this? C76?

[Fat Joe]

Who you think it was hosted by?

[Tony Yayo]

Who?

[Fat Joe]

Jimmy Henchman. Oh, who was we beefing with at that time? The game.

[Jadakiss]

Yes, Right.

[Fat Joe]

Think about it. That's why you. You know, I always say, yo, I don't know how game was with Henchmen, because henchmen is always mentioning with pop. Just hate when you keep it real, because I'm always logical. So back to the story. So was Henchmen. So we. Then there. Now you know how Henchman is. This nigga's a gangster. You know how that go. Trying to put the fake press on me. Come over there. It's like Haitian Jack. You know you got a Haitian Jack and tutting all these wild running around. Back in the days, he's grimy like that. Yo, Sock Paul said. So I'm looking at him, and he got his hand out. I'm like, yo, I don't want to go back and report that I'm giving this that. But that's. I can't do that. I'm just a real like that. If I don't punk you, I don't fucking with you. Like, yo, get the out of here. You're a rapper. You know, you're a street. So he's not. You're a rapper. So he. And then it just insinuated from there. But it was really because of all the game, because I didn't understand because I was on Game first album. So I'm an appreciative. I'm the like, yo, I've been in the studio with Dr. Trey right now. I'm one of them. Like, if I'm in the studio with y', all, I'm an appreciative. Like, yo, I can't believe him in Dr. Dream. Dre, he's opening a cabinet full of Henny. He got the guido bud. Like, yo, this is crazy. I don't even care if I made it. He made it. I'm just happy to be here. I'm in the studio with Eminem. Oh, I'm at parties with Serena Venus and. But I'm not stepping them and saying. I'm just like, oh, I can't believe I'm in the party. Jim Carrey out of here. See this on tv. One time, we was at a party, seeing Wesley Snipes. I started tweaking, started thinking about New Jack City and all that. I'm tweaking like, oh, let's call this Nino Brown. So for me, it's the experiences. But back to the henchman. That's what it started over. And then my Bentley got shot up and back of the pilot.

[Jadakiss]

I'm not gonna say, oh, that night.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, that same night when I was like, get the outta here. It was mad funny shit going on. Maserati, Fox there another dumb out recipes to my crazy from Queens. He there. So we in. That shit's like Rikers Island. So now when I say get the out of here. He had his man's there some from like, you know, I think they from Staten out named Teflon. He was part of his case and all that, right? Words was being said. So my man Kev, he just fresh up north from like doing like 14 years. So one of henchman mans had like a bottle behind. Behind them. So my man turned around and said, what the you gonna do with that? I was kind of surprised. I'm like, damn, did 14 years. Don't care about a. With a bottle behind him. I would have been like, he just, what the you gonna do with that? So it was like mad going on, pulling out hammers. You know what I'm saying? Was crazy. So I got the Bentley in the bp. I jump in, the BP came, walk by, lit the Bentley up in Harlem. That's why I always say, watch them Harlem streets.

[Joe Budden]

Now. What about. What about, did they set your BP on fire and you was in it and you had to. You had time to call the fire.

[Fat Joe]

My man. My man's had the bp and niggas shot up the crib and hit up the bp. Monster, all right, they shot up his windows. And Monster was bugging cause he was beefing with niggas. And he moved to Staten island, but still was in the hood. And it was crazy because the nigga that was Henchman man was from Staten Island. So he'll drive my Bentley and had a Bentley there. So N knew, know what I'm saying.

[Jadakiss]

Where he was at.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, niggas knew, like. So N shot up his windows, you know, and like, set the garbage on fire. That shit was crazy. It was a whole bunch of shit. I ain't gonna lie. That henchman shit was like. That shit was like, you guys had.

[Jadakiss]

Some serious beefs out there. Ours was the lightest one, you know what I'm saying? Y' all niggas was out here. I'm like, yo, they. I said, these guys got a lot of problems out here. My best friend that ever lived.

[Fat Joe]

I got his.

[Jadakiss]

The only tattoo I got is Tone Montana.

[Fat Joe]

Huh?

[Jadakiss]

Tone Montana fly. He was similar to 50 Cent. Like Fat Joe, believe it or not. It's a tough guy. But I'm a guy you could talk to and get it.

[Fat Joe]

You can squash it with me.

[Jadakiss]

I'm a diplomatic guy. This guy had beef with everybody we ever knew. Love, whatever. And I understand. I gotta stand there and be like, yo, Tony. So I'm be like, yo, man, fuck that, my nigga. You know, this, this, that. And I'm standing there in the hallway with him, I'm like, this nigga's we know and all that. And it gotta. It gotta happen. There's only one time I folded on him.

[Fat Joe]

My man.

[Jadakiss]

Rest in peace, Black Dave. I mean, we was in kindergarten together. Tone start arguing with. I mean, we brothers. Like, I mean, like, I wanted Black Dave.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Tone Montana, my best friend in the world. But Black Dave, I wanted him to marry my sister. Rest in peace. This is my brother, right? And then Tone start arguing with him. But Tone do, allegedly that he don't do this Black Dave cock these. We used to call him Slam Master. So I said, yo, Tone. So Dave don't care. He's not scared. He don't think we gonna hit him. We from the same hood. He's like, yo. He kept, yo, Tone, I fucked you up. And I'm in the middle. I'm like, yo, let's leave it alone. This, this, that. So Dave grabs him. Slam Stone. And Tone looking at me like, yo, you ain't gonna give it to Black Dave. I was like, yo, Tone, I can't give it to Black Dave. Like, this nigga want you to give it to everybody. Like, you're. And we have special languages where the nigga could smile at you and he lining you up. Yo, scare that beam, yo. Like, we had shit that you didn't even know the shit was coming. And I'll be like, no, scare that bull. We be like scab that.

[Fat Joe]

Think how brave it was back in the day.

[Jadakiss]

Crazy out here.

[Fat Joe]

Even, like, with the Josh, like Sony Studios back in the days. Look, I was there for that. Like, that was a crazy experience because you had both studios. You had a studio on this side, studio on that side. Y' all remember that. That block? What was it? 28th Street?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Yeah, that was 28th. That was.

[Fat Joe]

You never know they had the studio.

[Jadakiss]

Well, you needed money to be in up studio house.

[Fat Joe]

That shit was great. Like, I used to see fucking Wyclef. He be with Jack Scooter, Tut Henchman. You see. Oh, shit. These niggas look like three niggas. You don't want to see at night.

[Jadakiss]

I'm going tell you the craziest thing, right? Those guys, I swear to God, I don't know why I'm not really. I know everybody think I cap and all that, but I be standing there with $2 million of jury telling jokes to Haitian Jack the nigga Crybaby. All them niggas, them crazy, right? Right. They be like, joe, one second, go across the street, rob a for some. This thin come back, Joe tell his story. Like, yeah, you know, these, this, this. I thought, joe, you crazy. This, this, this. They never tried me. Like, I used to be in front of them, loaded with jury them. I used to be like, what? They'd be like, yo, you see the rap? I'm going to rob them right now. I'm like, what? We know they come back with the change. Oh, finish the story, Fat Joe. Yo, this. This is the crazy.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

Always love me, don't know why.

[Fat Joe]

Me too. I feel like that, too.

[Jadakiss]

I feel like that, bro.

[Fat Joe]

I was a that, like, how you say you was always outside? Like, I was outside when. When there was Carl Michaels, the. The restaurant in a gas station at Bazley, you know, a seeing Pream and my man in oti, yo, don't scratch his car. That's pre. No project's gonna kill us. I was the on the block black, just come to the block with nine. I was one of them niggas outside. Like, I've seen all the real niggas outside. E money bags come through all looking for niggas beefing with N. You know what I'm saying? I was one of them N always, always outside. That was just me. So for me, I never thought I was gonna leave the hood. So when I got in the game, I was just excited. Every beef was inherited, like I said, back to Chris Lighty and henchman.

[Jadakiss]

That was never my Chris Lighty saved my life. Celeste, you mentioned him too much for me not to explain.

[Fat Joe]

I love Chris Light.

[Jadakiss]

I watched him put in work, allegedly in the Bronx, with my own eyes. You know how we say we outside.

[Fat Joe]

Of the same black justice tunnel and all that?

[Jadakiss]

No, in the Bronx, Chris Lighty was putting in. By the way, if you don't know.

[Fat Joe]

His team, what was his team called back in the days, The Violated some shit.

[Jadakiss]

I'm telling you with my own eyes, I seen Chris Lighty put in work. Just innocent bystander at the end of the party, Club air out. I seen it myself.

[Fat Joe]

So I'm just telling you this, right?

[Jadakiss]

So I knew who he was. So we getting money. I got the promo out. Red alert's playing the promo. Thank you. Red Alert, man, you saved my life. And Chris Lighty come to my block where I'm getting money. We got Benzes, Beamers out there, all that. He says, yo, man, you know who I am? And I said, yeah, I know who you is. You Baby Chris. He was Baby Chris, right? So you Baby Chris. He said, yo, I think you could be a rapper. But, like, you the one with the promo, Fat Joe. I said, yeah. He said, I want to sign you. I got this new label, Was Violator, was Chi Ali, the beat nuts. Then me, he came to my block and I signed in the middle of the block. No lawyer.

[Fat Joe]

Wow.

[Jadakiss]

That's why I tell you, when the nigga want to sign, he gonna sign. All that chasing the nigga or this? Nah, when they wanna sign, they sign. I signed in the middle with a block like this. He gave me like 50,000. I showed everybody a legit. You know, I had paper at the time, but I'm showing everybody y' all out legit. Check, I'm legit.

[Fat Joe]

Look, that's crazy.

[Jadakiss]

I'm legit. Showing the whole hood of legit, y'. All. I'm legit. This is that. And then I changed my whole life from there. I took a big pay cut, right, to be a rapper at that time. I tell them all the time, Flo Jo was number one. I was getting $500 a show, running that up three a week. Mount Vernon, White Plains in the Bronx, the next day, Virginia, Washington, D.C. philly. I'm just.

[Joe Budden]

I.

[Jadakiss]

You know, I got the chitlin circuit, you know what I'm saying? But Chris Lighty saved my life. And saved mine, too, man. One thing he always wanted to do was bring peace between us.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

He sit down with me all the time, be like, yo, Joe and this and that. And I used to tell him, y' all don't trust this guy, Chris show.

[Joe Budden]

Chris Lighty came to the hood meeting with Styles. SB Stabbed the nigga and got a hit.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at that.

[Fat Joe]

At the meeting. Hold on. That's when he was on the Allen for stabbing the. In. In the buttocks.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he stabbed the. In the head.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. I was on the island the same time he was on the island. That's crazy. No, he was locked up. I was locked up the same time Styles was, because they was talking about on islands saying he stabbed the.

[Joe Budden]

You know, the.

[Fat Joe]

He had to stab him. It was.

[Joe Budden]

It was like a. We give him money to go get.

[Jadakiss]

A 40 his name was the Uncle Murder. They shot you in the head. That you know.

[Tony Yayo]

But that story, I didn't really get shot in the head, right? So that it wasn't.

[Fat Joe]

I asked him that one day.

[Jadakiss]

It's a one shot deal. It's like, yo, and murder on the hot seat.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't lay was a good question. But let me do what it just.

[Tony Yayo]

All, you know, it's crazy.

[Jadakiss]

When I met Uncle Murder. When I met Uncle Murder, everybody was like, that's the got shot in the head. That's how I met him.

[Joe Budden]

Murder was down Rough Riders first.

[Tony Yayo]

First, exactly.

[Joe Budden]

You always let him do.

[Tony Yayo]

Definitely. I was down with rough, right?

[Jadakiss]

He ain't lying.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what's crazy?

[Jadakiss]

I, I, I was with the rough.

[Tony Yayo]

I was like, he's shooting at you again. He's shooting at you now.

[Fat Joe]

That's a flag. You shoot me in my mouth. He got us the deal, man.

[Joe Budden]

That was definitely music. Everybody was. Nelson Mandela is from the Bronx. Sylvester Stallone, you didn't even know it. You south side of the B. I.

[Fat Joe]

Got no wins up here.

[Jadakiss]

I'm Haitian.

[Joe Budden]

Murder was down with. Look, he hate.

[Tony Yayo]

I was down with Rough Riders first. That was my first home. You know what's crazy? I was on the run for a shooting. Allegedly, I shot somebody. Allegedly, right? Real talk. D loved it that I'm on the run for a shoot. And I go to Hot 97 because I hear these guys on the radio. I hear the locks. I'm like, damn, if anybody can relate to my story right now. While I'm on the run, it got to be these dudes. All the shit they talking. We are the same streets. It got to be them. So I tell my uncle, yo, we got to hurry up, go to high 97. The locks up there right now. This the opportunity. This my only opportunity. I'm on the run. I got to see them right now. He like, he had to go to work the next morning, too. Like, all right, let's go. My uncle Pete, we go up there. Never forget. I, I don't know if your leg was up or some kiss, but I know you was already in the van at the time.

[Jadakiss]

He got them Kenny Smith shits on.

[Joe Budden]

Kenny Smith. Kenny Smith, shout out to Red Talk.

[Tony Yayo]

I hit him. So I go, I catch them up. By the time they coming out the station, it's D. Styles ready, like, yo, kissing the van. But I spit some shit. Styles, just grab the nigga. Yo, D, this nigga is the truth. Bring him with us, right? He bring me in the van and see Kiss. I spit some shit kissing it. Kiss like, yo, take my number Reverend the first time I called Kiss, I didn't even know what the size called. I'm like, yo, it was me Murder. He like, yo, what's up? I'm like, ain't shit. I'm about to go to the studio.

[Jadakiss]

All right.

[Tony Yayo]

I'm like, all right. I really didn't even know what to say cause I'm still trying to catch up on shit Real talk. So but the D had me in the studio just around the just watching. They was doing the compilation first at the time, just watching everybody. I was actually supposed to be on the but my man, he ain here. He like, yo man, we got to get back to the block, man. Street like let's go to the block. These taking mad long. So we went back to the block.

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[Tony Yayo]

At the time I got raised in the head. It was a better story to me at the time to say I got shot. Cuz I'm doing the whole rapture. I'm just down with Jay Z and everything and I'm telling Greenland like yo, we need something crazy and I'm telling Chris and at the time I'm telling Jay and them too. Cause I'm silent. I'm like, yo, we need something crazy to happen at this time, right? So when did when did shoot the cop that I met?

[Fat Joe]

What nigga say he got shot in.

[Jadakiss]

The head A piece of you. They they introduced it to him. Yo, the school murder.

[Joe Budden]

I shot.

[Jadakiss]

He stood all right.

[Tony Yayo]

Shot the cop. I was there. But I guess the the the gun wasn't his like, thank God, of course. But the bullet, I guess, hit the glass, and the glass cut me a little bit. So then you had glass from the car, too. All over my face. So you and little blood. So as I'm in there, that's where.

[Jadakiss]

You did your photo shoot at Uncle Crab.

[Fat Joe]

I'm like, you know what?

[Tony Yayo]

I'm like, you know what? Just as I'm in the ambulance, the guy said, yo, did you get shot?

[Fat Joe]

Like, not.

[Tony Yayo]

I didn't get shot, but there's a bunch of blood on my face. Even hip hop police, the curly head detective, he came. Curly head Sean, he came to the hospital. He said, so what the fuck happened to you? I said, yo, man, police shot me, man. He said, you play too fucking much, right? I said, yo, fucking police shot me, man. This is all it's written up in all. I'm like, yo, police shot me, man. He said, you didn't get shot, though. I said, yeah, but that's a better story. I said, now. I said, yo.

[Jadakiss]

I said, police shot me.

[Tony Yayo]

He said, there's nothing going on with you because it was just glass and shit, like, on my head. But I feel like at the time, saying I got shot in the head was like. Like, you said, you know, 50 got to go. I'm like, this is a super movie.

[Jadakiss]

I remember Andy Martinez and you.

[Tony Yayo]

Y' all was on and she was talking about that. She said, hey, you heard about uncle. You said, yeah, that guy's like the Terminator. I'm like, yo, this is perfect.

[Jadakiss]

This is beef.

[Tony Yayo]

You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm beefing.

[Joe Budden]

I get shot in the head.

[Jadakiss]

Allegedly. Everybody had everybody.

[Tony Yayo]

That's the story I was writing with. Like, this is a good story, right?

[Joe Budden]

Right here.

[Tony Yayo]

If a think I got shot in the head and survived, they got to go crazy.

[Jadakiss]

How many times be with you?

[Tony Yayo]

He was capping.

[Fat Joe]

So he was capping, yo. So he was capping. At the end of the day, yo, where's the flag? He was capping. He was capping, man.

[Tony Yayo]

A needed some promotion back then.

[Joe Budden]

It definitely caught.

[Tony Yayo]

I remember. I remember I told Ms. How many times I told Ms. Info? I said, yo, when the bullet fall out my head, I'mma give it to.

[Jadakiss]

To you.

[Tony Yayo]

You can ask Miss info thought I had a bullet for her.

[Joe Budden]

I said, I call you to check back.

[Tony Yayo]

Probably about six months later, she text, she checked.

[Fat Joe]

Y' all gonna let him pass with that?

[Tony Yayo]

This info?

[Fat Joe]

Y' all letting him pass with that cat?

[Tony Yayo]

That's how we do it.

[Jadakiss]

I'm telling you what it is. I'm telling you.

[Fat Joe]

That's like a dad hat.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't like a cap.

[Tony Yayo]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

He had a little bit of fragments.

[Jadakiss]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

A little bit of.

[Fat Joe]

Said it was glass.

[Tony Yayo]

Glass did come.

[Joe Budden]

Something is. Cap is. Have got nothing.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, when we. When this episode, I want you to play back the record of him rapping when he said he got shot in his head. Sure. Put that on the playback so people.

[Jadakiss]

Know I met this somewhere. And he said, hey, I'm Murder Guy who got shot in the head.

[Tony Yayo]

Capping with that.

[Jadakiss]

Now he capping with that. Now he capping with that. How they introduced me to him, Uncle Murder. The guy got shot in the head. What's. What's up with your man?

[Tony Yayo]

Who that?

[Jadakiss]

Tell him Blanco sent you.

[Tony Yayo]

Oh, say that to my guy White.

[Jadakiss]

Tell him Blanco sent you that to.

[Joe Budden]

My guy White the other day at the Having Ray show.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah. You know, he actually hit me to come out to that, too. He told me I was going, yo.

[Jadakiss]

That shit was legendary.

[Joe Budden]

African Ray Quan Pull at a legendary concert the other night. Mop locks, meth, ghost shit.

[Fat Joe]

Don't you love that? The, like, the. The super. It's like, when you look at all these artists from, like, when we started, y' all start. It's like, artist was like a superhero. Like, y' all could still go overseas.

[Joe Budden]

Like Avengers.

[Fat Joe]

Like, I see J R the Damager overseas, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Still eat.

[Fat Joe]

I see KRS1 overseas, bro.

[Jadakiss]

Everybody eats.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, it's just crazy.

[Jadakiss]

But Smokey Robinson still performing at 85.

[Joe Budden]

Your fans, you gotta stop aging out. We gotta stop making hip hop.

[Fat Joe]

Like, you feel like the new music is microwave music or no, what you feel like, it's microwave music.

[Jadakiss]

So right now, you know what it is, is we look crazy listening to that. You pulled up to me in the truck, and I'm playing some iggity viggoty Viggo. You going to be like, yo, this.

[Tony Yayo]

He be bumping that.

[Jadakiss]

When I see older dudes bumping that.

[Tony Yayo]

Gun, he be bumping that gun. And don't let him call you.

[Jadakiss]

I'm music.

[Fat Joe]

Listen. I listen to all kind of music. You know, I was listening on the way here, what didn't start or something, right? Hold on, let me talk. Cause I always wanted to ask Jada, right When you hear that or ask y', all who the fuck. That's like, Sheik went crazy on that. He went crazy. Mace Styles, everybody. Dmx, rest in peace.

[Jadakiss]

She killed them a lot.

[Fat Joe]

So my whole thing is like, who the fuck. That's the most controversial question. Who the fuck had the best verse on there? And I felt like you and Mace was getting at each other on that record, too.

[Jadakiss]

At that time.

[Fat Joe]

What at that time?

[Joe Budden]

Let me give you the.

[Fat Joe]

I'm just keeping it real.

[Jadakiss]

I feel like Sheik wanted the Benjamin.

[Fat Joe]

But N are stars or something. Come on, bro.

[Jadakiss]

He said that. He said he did.

[Joe Budden]

No, he did, because he got the. I felt like she did.

[Jadakiss]

She took Benjamin, bro.

[Joe Budden]

But I'm talking about. So on the publisher side.

[Fat Joe]

Listen. Done started something. Stay on that record.

[Joe Budden]

Those records, we was all together at the same time. So everybody was going. We made that record, got recorded. Everybody's verse right there.

[Jadakiss]

Not one of them.

[Tony Yayo]

Send them to mall.

[Joe Budden]

Send it to Kansas, send it to Harlem.

[Fat Joe]

You was in the studio.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody hanging with us every day in yo X Mace locks. We was all in the studio every day for months when we made that. And that was one of them shits. You trying to kill whoever go first.

[Fat Joe]

You. So you was trying to kill Mace on that record because y' all sound.

[Joe Budden]

Like y' all was trying to kill whoever.

[Fat Joe]

It sound like y'.

[Jadakiss]

All.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

No, it wasn't. I was trying to kill. What you gonna do if they put you on a court with Jordan, Ron, Colby, Shaq, Tim.

[Fat Joe]

You don't want to be fucking niggas. Done start or something. Was. That's one of the ones.

[Joe Budden]

Definitely is the fact we was all there, you know what I mean? With the new way of music. It takes something out of it. If I got to send you. You in Malibu and I'm in Southside Jamaica. If we there together, I don't care what's happening. It's going to suck the enemy. We in that eating. Even though some might be going on, but if there's a chance you could be in the studio together, it's always going to sound.

[Fat Joe]

I was in the studio with Big, though. For real. I just always wanted to ask you that.

[Joe Budden]

Illest he had bar he wanted. He never needed his studio. He wrote sometimes. I got it.

[Fat Joe]

He wrote on paper.

[Joe Budden]

I have a half of. I have like a quarter of. Oh, smoking line optimals. That verse. I got the other on paper.

[Fat Joe]

Can I buy that?

[Tony Yayo]

Hell, hell no.

[Jadakiss]

Y. I can't lie to you. I never said that. I never said that.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at that.

[Jadakiss]

I never said that.

[Fat Joe]

You got some pun. Don't tell me you got some.

[Jadakiss]

He said it first. I got. I was with Biggie when he did hypnotize. He was on paper. I was with.

[Fat Joe]

He Was in the studio with a.

[Jadakiss]

Bigger right Studio with Biggie Smalls when he didn't hypnotize nobody.

[Joe Budden]

Got a whole three verses of him written because he even the I got is only a little bars then the.

[Tony Yayo]

Rest got you.

[Joe Budden]

Last days Let me cut, let me take, let me take.

[Fat Joe]

On I'm turning day. That was my right there too.

[Jadakiss]

That 1800 is a special looking guy.

[Joe Budden]

Last day. Yo, we still in the hood. So we in the. We in the hood selling crack they call us. Yo, I gotta come to daddy's house to get on big album. We still got joints on us we go to. We used to me and daddy's house with packs on. They came but season them. Got Fendi sweaters and all that Chris style. We got army suits with black.

[Fat Joe]

So oh like he's.

[Tony Yayo]

We gonna be like them.

[Joe Budden]

But anyway we there this day. We we on the block. So we bring like three, four of our with us. We get there. Big old mafia is there. Big got Branson and he got the liquid hay sometimes oh the weed.

[Fat Joe]

Branson. Branson, yeah. Shout out to Branson coming back up.

[Joe Budden]

Mayonnaise jars of Branson.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And he used to sometime was a rare occasion. They get this liquid head hash that you got to put it on your fingers. Smear it on the blunt first.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, he was with the hashish back then. It's liquid late now he's writing them bars.

[Joe Budden]

We doing the verses. We find out that beat is from havoc. Niggas is hyped. We writing this. Everybody lay they verse and is high is knocked. Everybody in the whole studio is Cloud 77/2B. Soon as is in a deep slump number.

[Tony Yayo]

Yo, let me go and do my verse.

[Joe Budden]

Went and he was on the stool, but he was. His leg was still hurt. Dropped that. It woke everybody up like they gave him smelling salt.

[Fat Joe]

Superhero shit right there, bro.

[Joe Budden]

If you notice on Life After Death it's not that much features.

[Tony Yayo]

Yeah, it wasn't.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't Young locks. They'd be featured on there. It was a.

[Fat Joe]

That was a nice accomplishment, man. Diddy should have had that nigga bulletproof, man. I don't give a fuck. I still say that. Biggie my favorite rapper. All I be fighting old Big that's my favorite. That nigga shouldn't have been in Cali. So niggas always look at it like that. No disrespect to nobody.

[Jadakiss]

Shouldn't have been in Cali.

[Fat Joe]

Just got kicked.

[Jadakiss]

No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Save it for your show.

[Fat Joe]

Save it for what this city gonna.

[Joe Budden]

Talk about no no, it's a good thing to talk.

[Jadakiss]

What's the fight?

[Joe Budden]

That was our first time ever in la. I was with him.

[Fat Joe]

You was with it.

[Joe Budden]

You was smiling.

[Total Wireless Announcer]

He was happy to be there.

[Joe Budden]

It's not one the of them. I'm seeing all these shits on the ground, saying shits. Puff made him go there. He wanted to be there. He was happy. He was happier than I ever seen him.

[Tony Yayo]

Gotcha.

[Fat Joe]

At Daddy's house over there.

[Jadakiss]

Little C told us the same thing.

[Joe Budden]

Party. Listen, I know you get mad. I gotta keep it right.

[Tony Yayo]

You got.

[Jadakiss]

Let me say my pr.

[Fat Joe]

I got you. I got you down to the party.

[Joe Budden]

That you see the last picture with the cane. The thing, Him, Stevie J, Puff. We in there. We was mad. I don't know what son happened with Puff. We was over there.

[Jadakiss]

Ice Grill.

[Joe Budden]

We went over to him in that picture you see with the shades of the King. Him shake that shit off. He told us was my single release. Whatever's going on with Diddy, we handle it when we get back home.

[Tony Yayo]

Here goes.

[Joe Budden]

So Crystal or Don P, whatever was the thing. Gave us like 2 oz. Said go over there. Shake, smile, shake that off me at my single. And that was the last shit he ever said to me. Everybody left, went to the party. Then, yeah, that's when that should happen next time.

[Jadakiss]

What I could say to you is.

[Fat Joe]

But Pac passed already. Why would you have him in la? That's all I'm saying. Pac was dead already.

[Joe Budden]

You know, the beef is that you think about. It's a hard thing to say because I seen him.

[Jadakiss]

He was happy like Chris.

[Fat Joe]

He wasn't.

[Joe Budden]

He wasn't. They tell them they want to get cute. That was like.

[Tony Yayo]

He was chilling. He was chilling.

[Fat Joe]

I understand. But I just. In my mind when I look at.

[Joe Budden]

Hip hop we got. Because we get to look at it now.

[Tony Yayo]

We get to look at being a little older now. Now we older.

[Joe Budden]

Nowhere near that.

[Jadakiss]

See, I don't agree with when we.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at it now. Yeah, you're right.

[Jadakiss]

He shouldn't have been over there. But what they're trying to say, what him and Little C said on here was he wanted to be there. It ain't like we think thinking, but force the nigga to go. They said he wanted to be there.

[Joe Budden]

I was negligent. I be each his own bottle of 1800. If I didn't speak to him, I seen him. He told us. What did I mean, he told me. I see it if I didn't even. Yeah, I peed with Yayo.

[Jadakiss]

Cause I Love that.

[Joe Budden]

It crushed me, my first time in la. Bi shot. I still had a beeper.

[Jadakiss]

My mind's just beeping me.

[Tony Yayo]

This is facts.

[Fat Joe]

That's crazy. I didn't even know you was there.

[Joe Budden]

All the way down, full nav.

[Jadakiss]

But it's my consequences.

[Tony Yayo]

Because he know you with Big. Of course. Of course.

[Joe Budden]

That drug. When I go down that block, when I go to that light, to this day I shake. But I seen, I spoke.

[Jadakiss]

I was next to him.

[Joe Budden]

He was.

[Fat Joe]

He was.

[Joe Budden]

He wasn't you.

[Tony Yayo]

He didn't seem like he was forced to be there.

[Joe Budden]

He was one of the happiest I actually ever seen him in life.

[Fat Joe]

That over there, see what the reason why I'm so passionate about it, because I look at it like rappers took one off. Rappers are not superheroes no more. Now street niggas are. Or shooters are. Or scammers are rappers, not superheroes. So when we came up, N was superheroes. Superheroes. Big Ellie, Bionics, Fat Joe. Jealous ones in here. Y' all dropping. And no disrespect to Diddy, but no. No more shiny suits. Remember when y' all niggas went from that era to that era? It was crazy. Summer jam. Jay with Nas. Know what I'm saying? Ether, we love the Beef. So when you look at Tupac and Big, that was like one of the most biggest beefs we knew. Like, I remember being by the radio and waiting for. I think Flex played the first. When Big play who shot you and me be like, yo, that's not a dis record. I'd be like, what? In my mind, when I. I wasn't nobody. I'm coming from Jamaica Avenue down God Brewer. And I'm like, oh, I'm waiting near the radio to hear who shot you? And I'm like, oh, this is who shot you. I remember when that dropped. Records was exclusive. One DJ will happen. Y' all niggas would drop. Maybe one DJ or two DJs will have it. You know what I'm saying? So let's not act. Act like in the rap game, we don't like B. Cause just. Just now.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, it's been from since the beginning of time.

[Fat Joe]

We love it. KRS won the episode.

[Joe Budden]

Start dying.

[Fat Joe]

Always been split and everything. Yeah, that's when it gets.

[Jadakiss]

The difference is. Let me tell you, the difference is. So you said Hip Hop police, right? So Hip Hop police.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Jadakiss]

They want to put 50 in jail, but the bulletin board don't got got 50. They got you, your best friends, of course you got the Niggas that be with y', all, that this, this, that. And they waiting for them to make the mistake to run that.

[Tony Yayo]

Rico, of course, right?

[Jadakiss]

So you gotta understand that it's the entourage. You understand? They feel like they're impressing you. Y' all go pop this. You know how many times I had to talk people off the cliff? Like, guys crying for me, like, please. He's at the club right now. Cherry Lounge. Me let him go. I'm like, yo, bro, the whole world knows we have beef with this guy, the planet Earth. If you lay him out, then that's for life. We would have been here 20 years later. Like, you know, he did it. Like, you know something. You got to live with that. The M game, the murder game is something for life. There is no jurisdiction. There is no this. So you can't, you know, and they be the guys with.

[Fat Joe]

With you.

[Jadakiss]

They crazy. So you over here. Yo, this is Tato 124.

[Total Wireless Announcer]

This is.

[Jadakiss]

He did 30 years. He's a mass murderer. This guy's Jeffrey Dahmer 106. This the dick. What do you think he thinks his job is? When he sees the guy who got beef with Yayo, his job is to come back and say, yo, I got him. This is what I do.

[Fat Joe]

That's his job. So you back in the days. Because I heard you was going to get me first. You was going to kidnap me.

[Jadakiss]

Well, yay. Yo, let me explain to you.

[Tony Yayo]

This is going to tie you up, son.

[Joe Budden]

This is a family.

[Fat Joe]

In the back of the van. So was you gonna top me up? Heard about it. He said, who? Kid said Pun threw him in the.

[Joe Budden]

Back of the bed from the side. It really.

[Jadakiss]

It happened.

[Joe Budden]

This ain't that.

[Jadakiss]

It's no cat. That ain't that. Kiss.

[Joe Budden]

It's crack. Cracking Kiss Murder.

[Jadakiss]

The real report. The real report.

[Joe Budden]

Get ready. January.

[Tony Yayo]

The real report dropping in January. You heard?

[Joe Budden]

Ready.

[Tony Yayo]

And we got the new weed dispensary as well. We into the weed business now. We're by indoor.

[Fat Joe]

That's right.

[Jadakiss]

I'm coming.

[Fat Joe]

We going to dinos.

[Jadakiss]

We not only podcast brothers, we.

[Tony Yayo]

We brothers as well.

[Jadakiss]

We.

[Tony Yayo]

We especially brothers as well.

[Joe Budden]

I got a dispensary coming out there, y'.

[Jadakiss]

All.

[Joe Budden]

We all in the same.

[Tony Yayo]

Look at that. Shout out to my brother Mo. Powered by indoor.

[Fat Joe]

Dynasty. Commodity. Kiss Cafe. Dynasty.

[Joe Budden]

Commodity. Doing.

[Jadakiss]

Do you rewind the time instead of the other? Rewind the time. Of course you rewind the time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

CBS.

[Jadakiss]

I try to get 50 from jump. He said, nah. He said. I said, yo, I need you on the box, man. Rewind the time you know you. Why look 54 when you could be 43? I be 43 when you could be 32. Why fight the time when you can rewind the time?

[Fat Joe]

Rewind the time, baby boy.

[Tony Yayo]

Up with some of that Joe Hook.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. Yo.

[Jadakiss]

Yo, yo, Jada. Right now that hat you looking like Brother Akbar.

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