Joe and Jada - Wale tells WILD Kanye West story, talks Rihanna and Usher collabs & new album

Summary

The Joe and Jada Show: Wale Tells Wild Kanye West Story, Talks Rihanna & Usher Collabs & New Album

Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts & The Volume)
Date: November 6, 2025
Main Guests: Fat Joe, Jadakiss (Jada), Wale

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Overview

This episode of The Joe and Jada Show is centered around an in-depth conversation with DMV rapper Wale. The hosts, Fat Joe and Jada, cover a wide range of topics, including Wale’s musical journey, sneaker culture, the story behind his new album "Everything is a Lot," notable collaborations (Rihanna, Usher), the difficulties of music clearances (including a wild Kanye West experience), sports passion, and reflections on the current state of the music industry. The episode is a lively, candid, and often humorous glimpse into hip-hop culture, guided by three charismatic and insightful voices.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcoming Wale & DMV Roots

[03:21–04:58]

• Wale gets a hyped intro from Joe and Jada.
• Talks about the influence of the DMV (D.C., Maryland, Virginia’) on his life and career.
• Fat Joe reminisces on learning DMV culture while attending BET-oriented events in D.C.
• Wale appreciates being recognized but jokes about people thinking his stories sound like lies:
  • “A lot of niggas grew up listening to me... I know my shit be sounding like lies, too.” (Wale, [04:58])

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2. Sneakerhead Culture

[06:03–06:59]

• Wale shares origins of his sneaker passion, which started young but blossomed in high school.
• Observes the sneaker game is “burnt out,” and he now focuses more on what he likes rather than hype releases:
  • “Now I get clearance rack shit and just pop it off... I wear whatever I like.” (Wale, [06:44])
• Fat Joe and Wale riff about nostalgia and hoop shoes.

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3. The Legacy of D’Angelo & Angie Stone

[07:10–09:08]

• Mourning D’Angelo’s impact, especially on hip-hop and Go-Go scenes.
• Interesting aside about Angie Stone's early rap career and her influence on the genre’s beginnings.

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4. Wale’s New Album: “Everything Is A Lot”

[09:17–14:14]

• Album marks Wale’s return after a four-year hiatus due to label, management changes, and industry layoffs.
• Record reflects personal and professional developments and struggles:
  • “It’s really about everything that’s been happening from my last album to now, like, with me, like in my mind and my surroundings.” (Wale, [09:23])
• Fat Joe praises the album’s authenticity and “Afrobeats conundrum” sound, noting Wale’s Nigerian heritage comes through musically.

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5. Notable Features and Songwriting Stories

[15:22–19:58]

• The making of “Conundrum” and how features are kept secret for fans to “absorb” the music.
• Discussion of LL Cool J’s habit of not giving feature credits, with Wale and Fat Joe reflecting on uncredited artists in hip-hop classics.
• Wale reflects on how streaming culture has changed how artists are recognized.

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6. Wild Kanye West Collaboration Story

[27:34–28:55]

• Wale details working with Kanye in Paris, writing for him, and trying to get Kanye to guest on “Girls on Drugs.”
• Kanye insists a track is “go-go,” disagrees with Wale, and ultimately does not clear the feature:
  • “He gave me like, one of your biggest songs ever. And I’m like, damn, I ain’t even cleared it.” (Wale, [28:31])
• Fat Joe and Wale agree, clearances are perilous; “shit ain’t over till it’s over.”

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7. The Rihanna, Usher, & Other Collaborations

[25:11–27:45]; [29:44–31:19]

• Rihanna:
  • Wale met her before his breakthrough, connected through Roc Nation, and snagged her rare studio time:
    “One day, she was ready, I said, bro, everybody get the fuck out... And she just did it.” (Wale, [26:00])
• Usher:
  • Accidental, effortless—producers thought he’d sound great, and he delivered and cleared the song quickly.
  • Fat Joe and Wale joke about how hard it is to get favors (or sneakers) from Usher.

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8. Sports: Hip-Hop, Rivalries & Fan Talk

[41:10–46:52]

• Wale reminisces about his football days, almost making it to the NFL, and learning the game in Miami and college.
• Extended riffing among all three on their favorite NFL/NBA teams, New York vs. Miami culture, and the perpetual heartbreak of fandom.
• Fat Joe, ever optimistic about the New York Knicks:
  • “No, we’re winning the chip this year. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Basketball’s my life.” (Fat Joe, [46:45])

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9. The State of the Music Industry

[51:07–55:57]

• Major changes in industry landscape since Wale’s previous album: layoffs, new staff, fast changes in taste.
• Both artists lament a lack of passion among new gatekeepers and the pressures on older industry folk.
• Discussion about age in hip-hop, youth culture taking over, and the challenge for established artists and execs.
• Fat Joe uses Kanye West as an example of big artists joining brands and being managed by much younger staff:
  • “He a fucking billionaire and they put him to talk to somebody’s son when he’s discussing his sneakers... I’m keeping the lights on in Adidas.” (Fat Joe, [55:00])

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10. Mental Health, Trauma, and Vices in the Industry

[62:12–63:41]

• Fat Joe asks about struggles with drinking and addiction among artists.
• Wale shares the universal trauma in a long-term rap career and how vices factor in:
  • “If you’ve been in this gym longer than like six years, you’ve been through some traumatic shit.” (Wale, [62:20])
  • “We all have indulged in vices at particular moments... cuz this shit wasn’t made for all this.”
• Fat Joe echoes how hard it is to “stay perfect” under pressure:
  • “Sometimes they try to kill me, Wale. I’m not even lying.” (Fat Joe, [63:01])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the authenticity of the album:
  “You did what you love to do. And the fire.” — Fat Joe ([14:46])

• On features:
  “That’s the new thing. You don’t put the feature a day after. Let people absorb me.” — Wale ([19:00])

• On music industry change:
  “It’s the wild, wild west right now.” — Wale ([51:29])

• On negotiating in business:
  “You don’t get what you ask for. You get what you negotiate.” — Jada ([56:08])

• On the music life:
  “Everything’s a lot.” — Wale (Repeated as the album/episode theme, e.g. [63:34])

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Notable Timestamps

• 03:21 – Official intro and Wale’s welcome
• 06:03 – Sneaker passion & culture
• 07:10 – Legacy of D’Angelo
• 09:23 – Wale on new album & industry layoffs
• 15:22 – Breakdown of album, “Afrobeats conundrum”
• 25:11 – Rihanna story
• 27:34 – Kanye story: writing, not getting cleared
• 29:44 – Usher collaboration story
• 41:10 – Wale’s football past
• 51:07 – Reflections on music industry changes, Def Jam
• 62:12 – Mental health in hip-hop
• 63:34 – The meaning behind "Belly" and “Everything’s a Lot”
• 67:54 – Show closes with album promo and gratitude

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Standout Segments

The Kanye West Collaboration Gone Wrong

[27:34–28:55]
Wale recounts the confusion and frustration when writing for Kanye in Paris, trying unsuccessfully to clear a Kanye feature after being told it was one of his “biggest songs ever.” Demonstrates the unpredictable and sometimes ego-driven politics of high-level collaboration.

The Rihanna Studio Session

[25:11–26:00]
Wale nostalgically remembers getting rare studio time with Rihanna after much persistence. The story underlines how much timing, networking, and a bit of serendipity matter in grabbing superstar features.

The Album’s Emotional and Cultural Roots

[14:14–16:08]
Fat Joe praises Wale’s embrace of Nigerian heritage and authenticity on the new album, with both reflecting on avoiding genre hopping for clout:
“You sounded African on this… You did it right.” — Fat Joe

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Tone & Style

The episode is energetic, occasionally chaotic, and filled with the kind of ribbing, camaraderie, and real talk that only happens between true insiders. The hosts and guest are candid about struggles, the industry’s evolution, and the highs and lows of the spotlight, always maintaining a playful and authentic vibe.

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In Summary

Wale sits down for a raw, insightful, and often hilarious conversation with Fat Joe and Jada. Together, they cover the intersections of music, culture, sports, and personal evolution, highlighting everything from failed collabs with Kanye, bagging Rihanna and Usher features, to the emotional toll of hip-hop life. Wale’s new album, "Everything is a Lot" (out Nov 14), stands as both a personal statement and cultural commentary, reflecting the challenges of staying true to oneself in a rapidly changing industry.

Key Takeaway:
If you want unfiltered stories from one of hip-hop’s most enduring artists, deep dives into culture, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and some of the best sports trash talk in the game, this episode is not to be missed.

Transcript

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jada]

Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Fat Joe]

Had 30 agents ready to go with.

[Wale]

Shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Five, six white people pushed me in the car.

[Fat Joe]

I'm going, what the hell? Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[Jada]

All you gotta do is receive the package.

[Wale]

Don't have to open It.

[Fat Joe]

Just accept it. She was very upset, crying.

[Jada]

Once I saw the gun, I tried.

[Fat Joe]

To take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

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[Wale]

Bro, if I had that, what you had doing them stories, man, I probably. Man, I don't even care if it. Yo, them jones was entertaining.

[Fat Joe]

These stories true.

[Wale]

I know my shit be sounding like lies, too.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, what up, y'?

[Wale]

All?

[Fat Joe]

This is Joe Crack the Dawn.

[Jada]

It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we haven't failed you yet, and we will never fail you or never let you down. Ladies and gentlemen, please make some noise today for our brother, you know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

DMV zone.

[Jada]

DMV zone. Heavy in the sports, heavy in the sneakers. He makes hits. He had features with some of the most incredible people. I'mma ask him about in a minute, you know what I mean? He gets on his shit every now and then. You might get a rant, you might get what? You always going to see him. You always going to hear him. He's always lit, he's always relevant. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother, Wale. How you like that intro?

[Fat Joe]

I love that.

[Jada]

No doubt.

[Fat Joe]

You know, DMV is a very spiritual place for me, you know what I'm saying? And my whole career, you went to.

[Jada]

Church down there a lot.

[Fat Joe]

But BET was in.

[Wale]

I have a crazy antidote about bet.

[Fat Joe]

Let's start at Howard University. The how can I be downs and all that shit over there. BET was based out of dmv, so I would train down there to do all teams, everything. The whole BET was in fucking dc, so you had to go to dc, and we was out there so much because they threw all the events out there that I learned so much about DMV coaching, man. But what's up, Wale, man, We happy to have you here, brother.

[Wale]

Good to be here. It's good to be here. You know, it's for real. Because it's like, you know, you probably hear this all the time. A lot of niggas grew up listening to me. Like, now we like, about to answer questions. But, yeah, like, that's a little start on the convo.

[Jada]

He might have crazy.

[Wale]

But yeah, I mean, you kind of dropped some seeds about some things you're going come at. That's more than the combo.

[Fat Joe]

But my thing is, you know, I woke up this morning, my outfit wasn't so premeditated. But my young boy, UFO Feeb hit me up and said, you know why lay coming? I said, I know. He said, well, you gotta throw something on your feet. Crazy. And I said, you know why I lay my. I don't think he wanted. I don't think we doing that. But I went and premeditated the outfit and brought out the ts. Shit's about 20 something years old. Just for the culture, you know what I'm saying? Cause we salute you so much as a sneaker giant. What got you into sneakers and are you still currently. Do you have the passion for the sneaker gang?

[Wale]

I think just culture. Like all of us, wherever you from, if you was black, you was on sneakers. Like, you know what I'm saying? And now we ain't really had money until I was like maybe like in high school. And then when I started working, I just started collecting and collecting and then you know how I go. Like any other hobby, you just collect. And as far as now I don't really got a passion. Like I used to. Like, it's a little bit like stepped on. Like the whole shit burnt out for real. Like it's just everything is not what it used to be. Nah. But they making some good designs. But it's not so like I'm on the whole like I get clearance rack shit and just pop it off like these is on clearance. Like, remember these joints came out a long time ago. I'm on it like that. I wear whatever I like.

[Jada]

Yeah, I like that though.

[Wale]

Yeah, I like it like, you know what I'm saying?

[Jada]

I'm over there, I'm gonna go over there.

[Wale]

And I still got joints like. But I like where the Reggie Miller is. Everybody on dunks now. Like we was doing that, we was doing that, you know what I'm saying? So I'm on hoop shoes. Where would I and AES.

[Fat Joe]

I got one more question before my business partner takes off with the intelligent question. This is the wise and seller, the God wise intelligence over here.

[Jada]

There we go.

[Fat Joe]

AKA the notary republic. But check this shit out, man. Sad day yesterday. DMV zone. D', Angelo, did you know him? What he mean to you coming out of the dmv, you know what I'm saying?

[Wale]

Well, that's more southern Virginia, but you know DMV nonetheless. But I just think what he meant to hip hop, the voodoo sound is like a lot of Go Go bands was inspired by that album, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people like, you know what I'M saying. And he just represented a certain type of black man, you know what I'm saying? In that era, like, you feel me?

[Fat Joe]

Like, I came out with that six pack, losing weight. I lost two Fat Joes, yo. I said, yo, I gotta get in shape. Listen, that was unreal, right? That two fat jokes.

[Jada]

How many was left at that? He lost.

[Fat Joe]

I got one left.

[Jada]

All right.

[Fat Joe]

It was three Fat Joe, I'm telling y'. All. But d', Angelo, man, shout out to Cooling. Dre. It's our brother.

[Wale]

That's my brother right there, Dre.

[Fat Joe]

That's his favorites. He was up yesterday.

[Wale]

He was.

[Fat Joe]

He was so sad. You know, everybody got their favorite.

[Jada]

Oh, d' Angelo was Dre's.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, that's it. There's nobody better than d' Angelo for Dre. Yesterday I was talking to him and I seen him fucked up in the face. I was like, yo, Dre, I'm on a FaceTime. And he was like, yeah, you know this. It wasn't the same Dre. You know, he lost his hero. You know, d' Angelo meant a lot. You know, Angie Stone, one of the first rappers.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Angie B turned into Rest in Peace. You didn't know that?

[Wale]

No. He's talking to rapper.

[Fat Joe]

She might be first. Second Second rapper. Shot Rock is first Shot Rock. And Hu. She was a dead ass second rapper in America. And then she came back years later.

[Jada]

With wrote some songs for Sugar Hill and all.

[Fat Joe]

I'm telling you, she was there at the.

[Jada]

Before Angie Stoke.

[Fat Joe]

She was at the inception Kiss. You come with the super energetic questions.

[Jada]

Nah, we just kicking it with Grunt. You got new project coming. Tell us about what's going on with that.

[Wale]

It's called everything is a lot. Yeah, like, I ain't dropping four years. Like, I had to. You know, I changed management. My contract was up with nmg. Like, had to figure out a couple things and you know the industry, like about 70% of the people got laid off in the past four years. So just trying to figure everything out. And it's really about everything that's been happening from my last album to now, like, with me, like in my mind and my surroundings.

[Jada]

I like that.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Jada]

Talk. You got a tour with it.

[Wale]

You know, we saw every album.

[Jada]

So yeah, you stay on the road when you drop something. Any crazy features. I ain't listening.

[Fat Joe]

Well, I listened to that.

[Jada]

I didn't want to listen to it in any race on me, because I was trying to get.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, they. They definitely got the. You can't rewind.

[Wale]

That was one person Jake, that was my note on the joint.

[Fat Joe]

That was your note? They tested, man.

[Jada]

Like you do on the block, man.

[Fat Joe]

Tina sent that to me. She said he's on tomorrow. How about this? I never did this for no other guests. No other nothing.

[Jada]

I think so.

[Wale]

I think so, too.

[Fat Joe]

You think I'm lying?

[Wale]

Nah, I was talking about something else.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no, no, no. Ain't no capping this. I sat down. I tell you, your whole album, the intro's bananas. The first joint, that's that. If you really, really want it.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Oh.

[Fat Joe]

All you gotta do that's that.

[Wale]

Without it.

[Jada]

Oh, my God.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, sick. Shout out to Sweaty. Wrote that.

[Wale]

Yeah. And I know you wrote it. I saw the.

[Fat Joe]

They saw who you paid.

[Wale]

I said, damn. Got me twisted over you real.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Keith Sweat is a businessman.

[Wale]

Yeah. Like I know.

[Fat Joe]

For the first new.

[Wale]

Thank you, thank you, thank you to the lawyers that have clearance.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Wale]

Street runners, right? Street runners made that jump.

[Jada]

Street runners get out. You think is.

[Wale]

It sounded so different when he first sent me that jump.

[Jada]

You heard that?

[Wale]

He said, started street running.

[Fat Joe]

You can't throw that. Don't do that. You're gonna play yourself. He might, though. He might have.

[Wale]

He might. He might.

[Fat Joe]

He might be right about that.

[Wale]

Because I know this.

[Fat Joe]

I know that circle. That circle is.

[Wale]

I know. Nah, he might got.

[Fat Joe]

He might got that one. But Street Runner. Ts, man.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Wale]

This is the same game. It's close enough. It's close enough.

[Fat Joe]

I ain't gonna argue on that one.

[Wale]

He got some more coming. Don't worry. I'll let you get. I'm gonna let.

[Fat Joe]

I started Street Runner.

[Jada]

Black pullback.

[Fat Joe]

I'm giving them. I started Street Runner. I started Chris Robinson. I started Jesse Torero. I started.

[Wale]

You saying you started people's name.

[Jada]

Throw something easy.

[Fat Joe]

Who had Cool and Drake too early. Premature. Cool and Dre. I started Khaled.

[Wale]

I started Miami.

[Fat Joe]

I. Yeah, I started. Fuck yeah. I started Wale, man. I started Howard. See, but you know, what about Wale? I always figured Wale for a nice guy. He's actually. He knows how to throw shots. You see, we started. He was like, yeah, Miami rappers. And that's the shit Jada's famous for in the verses. Oh, these New York guys in Miami. I said, damn.

[Wale]

No, when I said Miami, I'm talking about, you know, the little.

[Fat Joe]

I got. Y' all little.

[Wale]

Y' all get money. Y' all do. Y' all do y' all Miami shit. I know who you be. I know who you be with him in Miami, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I've been Listening to y' all.

[Wale]

Like, y' all talk shit, too.

[Fat Joe]

That intro was crazy.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

You made an album like I would love to make an album. For some reason, they stereo cast us rappers. It's the same.

[Wale]

It ain't no different than what you do. It ain't no different.

[Fat Joe]

It's just you went in there, you fucked a lot with the Afro beats you. Is you African or African American?

[Wale]

I wouldn't even consider none of them beats Afrobeats. For real. They kinda like.

[Fat Joe]

I'm asking you a question. Is you African American or are you African?

[Jada]

Is deaf.

[Wale]

I'm African. We are African.

[Fat Joe]

Yes, But I'm just saying, the way you flowed on them African beats was almost like you from Nigeria, not from Washington. I'm telling you the truth. You know what you did on that shit.

[Wale]

My parents met at the University of D.C. and they both came into America, like, in like, early 80s.

[Jada]

That's fired.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, so that's how it happened. Because you sounded really authentic. See, I never did reggae tone. Cause I'm like a New York Puerto Rican. And it would have sounded like Joe's trying to do that shit. And he don't sound right.

[Wale]

Right.

[Fat Joe]

You did it right. So in the middle of your album, I'm saying to myself, yo, is Wale African? I'm the one who always say everybody African. Don't do that shit to me. Well, I'm just telling you, you sounded African on this.

[Wale]

My name. My full name is Olubawale. That's in Nigerian.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, this the. I'm talking about.

[Wale]

I think everybody.

[Jada]

You don't notice.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't.

[Wale]

He was too busy making street runners, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, you crazy.

[Wale]

It was too busy.

[Fat Joe]

You made all the people.

[Wale]

I'm sure you don't know what the.

[Fat Joe]

Is going on.

[Wale]

I was like, outside Jamaican People factory.

[Fat Joe]

You don't know what's going on.

[Wale]

But yeah, I'm Nigerian. I was born in. Actually.

[Fat Joe]

Born. That's what I'm talking about. And that came out on this ALB album. And done perfect. Done incredible.

[Wale]

Thank you.

[Fat Joe]

You know what I'm saying? I love this album. I. I felt like it was a time that you could have been authentic with yourself. This what that album feels like to me. You did what you love to do. And the fire.

[Wale]

Right. Appreciate it.

[Jada]

You gotta get used to this guy.

[Wale]

Nah.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no. He used to be.

[Wale]

I know what it is.

[Jada]

You know what I mean?

[Wale]

I wanna. That's how I praise. And I appreciate it, though. Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Huh?

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Intro.

[Jada]

I didn't Get.

[Wale]

I didn't get the. So you can get the context of the album from the.

[Jada]

Make sure you play fucking loud too.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, it's Afro beats Conundrum. Conundrum.

[Wale]

Conundrum, that's what they're talking about.

[Fat Joe]

Conundrum is fire, bro.

[Wale]

Y' all want to play it?

[Fat Joe]

You don't want to play Conundrum?

[Wale]

Nah, nah.

[Fat Joe]

This guy, this album come out the next day.

[Wale]

It got no. Oh, the next day after this.

[Jada]

Yeah, we ain't. We ain't. This ain't right now.

[Fat Joe]

So when we play it, it's going to come out the next day.

[Wale]

It might be too early. I do 14.

[Fat Joe]

Well, listen to your man though. You know, Fat Joe is known as one of the greatest A&Rs in the whole fucking system. Or you can listen to him. You can listen to the light skinned guy from the bank who really runs cmb. That's the guy. Christopher Williams over there. That's the guy. Really on the bank. Nino Brown stole on over there. You can listen to him. I'm telling you. Was fire on the fucking album. But it's okay. It's okay.

[Wale]

Yeah. Emin Khaled, man, they created each other for real. They created him and Khaled created each other. Yeah. And then they just started creating everybody else. Okay, we could do Mero in the bands. I just wanted to make a self affirmation song. Man, that's some fly shit. So good. Hello. Mirror mirror on the bands. Who? The flies in the room. Who inspired everybody? That's inspiring you. I won't to my own horn I'm just wearing it to you and I know you just a mirror but my fear is only you therefore them little boys ain't nowhere near you don't care but just annoy that I be playing you those years of paranoia probably took a toll but depressing the told Mary it ain't only you you deserve everything you do they going to try get you in the mood they going to try cuz it work right should have never stop listening to you oh Mary, don't you forget remember Glenn Lewis don't feel like you really him But I'mma see to it that you feel like you really am Cuz I'mma need you Cuz now we see what this really is we got see it too twin you deserve everything you do they going to try get you want to move they gonna try cause it work right Should've never stopped listening to you.

[Fat Joe]

Okay.

[Wale]

Mirror mirror on the left the coach send you home you don't know what's coming next you thinking, boy, stay cool, you always been a dog but the portal wasn't knowing they gonna send your ass home before you even get the stretch Mirror, mirror, mirror look at all your transgressions Niggas think you crazy, packing think you too aggressive the people think you mad I ain't mad, just reflecting but this flower bomb dropping the B Been a few years, see what we going through, yeah so many peers have stopped calling you yeah let's make it clear on who you loyal to Save all your tears see what we going to do is mirror, look at me no mirror look at me they try bite your style they walk out with crooked teeth, no self sabotage know the obstacle awake if you ever need to talk no, I always be in your face saying you deserve everything you do they going to try get you in a move they going to try cuz it work right? Should have never stop listening to you.

[Jada]

Sliding on the Afro beat No, he.

[Fat Joe]

Got real Afro, that Afrobeat. Nah, that's just. That's. That's. It's.

[Jada]

Melodically.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah. It's like from A Tribe Called Quest. They never sent me the features. You had people on there, but I. I couldn't tell who it was.

[Wale]

Now we got. You know, that's the new thing. You don't put the feature a day after. Let people absorb me.

[Fat Joe]

You know, who I always been upset with. And I idol LL Cool J. All right, because there's some legendary super platinum songs he had on that we never knew who sung this.

[Wale]

Right.

[Fat Joe]

The girl never got up.

[Wale]

I don't know who's saying well, yeah, doing well. Natasha from Bone Thugs. God bless her for saying her name at the end of the song. Tasha Cleveland. Definitely in the house. Thanks, Tasha. Cause Billy's in the house. Wish is in the house. And Flash. And then Tasha. I hope Tasha's doing nice.

[Fat Joe]

About the girl that said they're froze in the house.

[Wale]

Yeah. Hey, who's singing? What more can I say?

[Fat Joe]

They're froze in the house.

[Wale]

I always wanted to know. I asked Guru. I don't think he. Nobody gave me an answer.

[Fat Joe]

Who sing on what?

[Wale]

What more can I say?

[Fat Joe]

What more can I say?

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Damn. I don't know. That sound like a sample to me.

[Wale]

You could have said, you crazy for this one. Whoever that was, he probably was talking about.

[Fat Joe]

Get something, man. More.

[Wale]

Might want to get records that never.

[Fat Joe]

Like Tupac had mad hit records. I don't know who was singing on there.

[Wale]

Yeah. Oh.

[Fat Joe]

Who even produced it years later, Pocass.

[Wale]

A for a cigarette and Let him get on the record.

[Fat Joe]

That's crazy.

[Wale]

He like, like, you know the songs, y'.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

All.

[Wale]

I ain't gonna. He let. It's the only feature, but they got a million stream. I could put anybody on.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, but you know he left from the heart. Yeah, you do that now, they'll sue you and say they made up the.

[Wale]

Whole song or they're just this crazy. It's just a little bit. It's a less honor.

[Fat Joe]

You can't even allow in the studio these days. Be like, yo, you said that wrong. You threw it over.

[Jada]

Shit.

[Fat Joe]

You did. They were talking about how they wrote the. How they did. Like, it's incredible out here. Like, you gotta watch who you got in the studio. No, it's real talk. I know of lawsuit. I know one guy in particular who was hanging out with the Backstreet Boys. He's in the studio in Orlando hanging out with the Backstreet Boys and say, they said, I'm gonna do it like this. He said, yo, you should say, we gonna do it like this. The man sued them like he did something in the studio. Sounds kind of.

[Wale]

He sounds like a smart guy.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, he's truck.

[Wale]

They stealing anyway.

[Fat Joe]

He's. Oh, man.

[Wale]

What?

[Fat Joe]

The Backstreet Boys.

[Wale]

You can take that out. Nah, nah, they was. You know what they stealing from, man?

[Fat Joe]

Who you say, Boyds to men or a new edition? Who would you say? The Backstreet.

[Wale]

I'm not saying nothing because now I know it's going to be a headline, and it's going to be like a whole month.

[Jada]

Clickbait.

[Fat Joe]

But we could talk out, man.

[Wale]

What's up, man? What's up with them Giants, man.

[Fat Joe]

Giants?

[Wale]

Are you a Chiefs fan?

[Fat Joe]

I'm a Chiefs fan.

[Wale]

Oh, you made. You made my own.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, Kelsey, I got him on the box to rewind it.

[Wale]

Oh, yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Why fight the time when you could rewind the time? Travis Kelsey, my guy. My business partner.

[Wale]

Yes.

[Fat Joe]

He's on the box. Yesterday's price.

[Wale]

Yesterday's price.

[Fat Joe]

It's not today.

[Wale]

That wasn't Travis Swift on that jump.

[Fat Joe]

Let me tell you something. My first time ever, by the way, we're the number one seller in cvs. I was in la and I went in there, CVS to give me some sugar free candies they got in there. And I'm online, and there's this white dude there, and he got a box of rewinding, and he turns around. I said, man, you. You buy. He said, I'm a faithful customer. He don't know who the hell I am. And I'm like, yeah. He said, if this guy wears it, I could wear it, too. And he showed me Travis Kelce. I said, wow, Travis, man. The Swifties.

[Wale]

This.

[Fat Joe]

He was like, yeah, I'm about to go do my. I was like, we had a customer. First time I called a customer online in the store. It felt great. Guys, I get it.

[Wale]

Roc Nation. Roc Nation. Where's the hard cam? Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Hey.

[Wale]

I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.

[Fat Joe]

You can't.

[Wale]

It's fucking David Letterman over here. I get it. I get it. I get it, Jada. I get it. I get the whole thing.

[Fat Joe]

Jaden Smile.

[Wale]

I get it.

[Fat Joe]

The court side of God.

[Jada]

I know.

[Fat Joe]

I see the. I see the.

[Wale]

I see the whole vision now. I get it. He said, you Nigga J. Niggas want to do streaming games. Watch this. I'm going to be the media master. Watch this, bro. If I had that, would you had doing them stories, man? I probably, man, I don't even care if it.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, them jungles entertaining these stories. True.

[Wale]

I know my shit be sounding like laughs, too. I got.

[Fat Joe]

They were looking at me like I'm crazy. I seen one guy, he said, see that quick? Nah, that quick. I seen one guy on Instagram. We probably blowing him up. Jada don't like this, but he was like, yo, one time, I was on 131st, and Fat Joe's man owned the shout out to Bambop Opie Megatron, they own the Rim shop, and Joe was just chilling in there. So I pull up with my mans. I want to play music. And we caught him off point. He looked like he was shook. I said, listen, I got to do it. I got to go. In the comments, I said, you are very blessed you didn't try me. Because it would be a messy situation in there. And how about you come 20, 25 and try to play with me, see if it ain't going to get messy? I could guarantee you. Whatever. I don't remember what he's talking about, but I promise you, if we was In Harlem on 131st, 8th Avenue, it was heavy in there. Heavy. Fat Joe ain't just gonna be sitting up in the middle of Harlem. It would have got real messy.

[Wale]

I don't know. I don't know how we got here, but I believe you.

[Fat Joe]

No, you better believe it.

[Jada]

You're gonna go all. You're gonna go a lot of places before you leave it.

[Wale]

New Yorkers are good with that. Like, they can keep you engaged. I believe it, though. New Yorkers know when we got there. I know. N know's joke.

[Fat Joe]

New Yorkers know.

[Wale]

I know.

[Fat Joe]

But let me tell you something.

[Jada]

How about we let him tell us something?

[Fat Joe]

I want to ask you about the song you did, that you got Rihanna on.

[Jada]

Yeah, that's what I was about to start asking about. Some of the features. No, go talk about that one first.

[Fat Joe]

That one's a serious one he pulled off.

[Jada]

He got some incredible features in his life.

[Wale]

Get to know me.

[Jada]

Yeah, you know.

[Fat Joe]

No, you are charming facts.

[Jada]

Don't tell him that either.

[Fat Joe]

Don't made up shit.

[Jada]

Don't tell him that.

[Wale]

I got songs.

[Jada]

He came to the studio with me. Yeah, he's been in D block studio next to me. No email.

[Fat Joe]

Jadakiss, man, you're a great rapper, man.

[Jada]

We talking about him.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, we gonna be.

[Jada]

I don't wanna talk about.

[Wale]

Let me tell you about the time I made Jadakiss.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, shit. I was somewhere in Yarkus.

[Wale]

Whoa.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, yo. It was a. It was a dark, cold night in Yonker.

[Wale]

All right? Nah. But the jungle Rob, like, she. She just. We. I met her, like, a long time ago. Like, before I was even. I was still. I was still in school, for real. It was right around the time I dropped out. I was on tour with Mark. And, like, I think backstage at Glastonbury, it wasn't too many, like, black people. Like, so we just got cooled in. And then I started, like, you know, getting bigger and bigger. And then I remember, like, it getting back to me. This is my third album now, and I'm on Roc Nation. So, you know, J. Brown, the whole thing. She was like, I want to. I want to get on the song. And. Yeah, and then. I mean, then I had to, like. I remember, like, she kept going to the club, like. Like, every other night. And I was like, one of these nights we going to the studio soon as. And the day that she was ready, I said, bro, everybody get the fuck out. Like, yo, what y' all want to eat? They was like, McDonald's. I was like, oh, cool. Had some J's. So I like getting a vibe. And then she just did it. And then I think we ended up, like. I tried to get, like, a different beat. Cause I really wanted a real remix.

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask you a question. How did you feel when she jumped in the suv? I'm presuming she left. And you had Rihanna's vocals on your song. Like, what the. I hope.

[Wale]

I hope it ain't. I hope this should get cleared.

[Jada]

That's a fact. It ain't.

[Fat Joe]

It ain't over.

[Wale]

It ain't.

[Fat Joe]

No.

[Jada]

Yeah, it's not over. It's not done yet.

[Fat Joe]

You got.

[Wale]

I know some artists right now that would. They. They love to go to niggas sessions and hear their new shit. Drop them, give them two verses, and.

[Jada]

Then Tuesday don't clear the.

[Wale]

Kanye did that to me.

[Fat Joe]

Nah, I had to deal with that. A lot of times.

[Jada]

He did that.

[Fat Joe]

He did that to me. I don't even.

[Wale]

I don't even know how it happened, but when I was out there writing for him, like. And this was Paris. This is a long time ago. For who? Kanye. Okay. And then I remember, like, I wanted him on this song that I had called Girls on Drugs, and he was.

[Fat Joe]

Like, nah, nah, nah.

[Wale]

You know how he get like, nah, nah, nah, this is the one. And then played me this song, and with Ty Dollar Sign, I was on it, and he was like, this go, go shit, right? I'm like, go, go. Don't sound nothing like that. Like, but I, you know, I get it. It's going to be Kanye West. So I did this song. I didn't really like the song. For real. I mean, it wasn't like. It wasn't fucking with nothing on my album, but it's Kanye. So I let it ride and shit like that, you know? He was like, yeah, you should put on the album. I'm like, fuck it. Having a on the album, I can't hurt. I don't like the song. So when it came time to. What's his name, the label, Homebound now, Def Jam, they wouldn't clear it. They said Kanye wouldn't clear it. And I'm like, what the fuck was that? And then he got mad at me a little bit later down the road, like, I don't think you appreciate. I gave you, like, one of your biggest songs ever. And I'm like, damn, I ain't even cleared it.

[Fat Joe]

Like, shit ain't even now. He delusional.

[Wale]

Shit ain't over till it's over. With these clearances, man.

[Fat Joe]

My favorite rapper, but he delusional.

[Wale]

Definitely. Definitely an inspiration to my whole show.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, no.

[Wale]

I just probably should have stayed for that.

[Fat Joe]

Wait till I tell you the Kanye story, but go ahead. This might be for another.

[Jada]

How the hell did you meet Jerry Seinfeld?

[Wale]

I was just always an outside. Like, I just was a kind of a different. Like, I had different interests. Like, we all hang together, whatever, but I used to just, like, watch different shit. And I remember, like, I had an injury and I couldn't do shit, like, for a while. And I had them joints on dvd, and I was just watching them joints and I was like, man, there's a lot of psychology in this shit. And then I just made a mixtape around that when I was still living in my mother crib, like. And I was like, I don't know if they're gonna understand it, but I put it out and it just kind of caught. And I did part two right before I signed the Interscope. And I think right before I did part two, it got. He caught wind of the mixtape, and then he had a show in Baltimore when he wanted to meet me.

[Jada]

Now, how the hell did the Usher joint? That's one of my favorite songs in.

[Fat Joe]

The world, by the way.

[Wale]

Appreciate it, man. You know, I do say I'm one of the biggest rappers that don't have a main producer. And I. I kind of think so, because all my song, my hits from somebody else. And I remember one day, Jake one.

[Fat Joe]

Was like, man, by the way, I don't want it. That's an art. To be able to work with different producers and make hit records with different producers. A lot of guys just got one guy who give him that sauce. It's actually hard to leave somebody you just made a hit with to fuck with another producer and get a hit from them. Sorry for cutting you off, but I.

[Wale]

Wish I could do that more. I'm like more of an introvert now. I become more because I know too much. So I just don't be really around nobody. But. But like, Jake 1 was like, man, this is around the time I was like, like three years in a row. I had like, the number one most played on urban radio. Song three. So J1 made a joke. He was like, man, I want to do one of those with you. I was like, well, send me a beat like that, man. I just started putting this together. And then me and Sam do put that hook down. And then N was like, yo, Usher would sound great on it. Didn't overthink it.

[Fat Joe]

Usher did it.

[Jada]

Yeah, and cleared it.

[Fat Joe]

The man Usher never did for me, man. Yo, Usher, you owe me about 100 favors he do. What Usher?

[Wale]

I need a taste, man.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Usher, I've been chasing you for my whole. Man. Usher might think I'm whack, man. I ain't gonna lie. Chase Usher plenty of times. He's a. I consider him my friend.

[Wale]

He on skates now, man. You can't catch us.

[Jada]

Can't catch him now.

[Fat Joe]

You go to Usher's show, bro. I'm in Vegas. I had a show, I think. What's the club?

[Jada]

Dreus.

[Fat Joe]

Dreus, man. And I fucked around and told Natina, give me some tickets to us. I fucked around. I sat in them seats for two minutes. Then it was the Fat Joe Greatest Hits. Ten records in the world. Usher had me performing. Ten fucking records. Breath, sweating, bullets, ripping the place down. I mean that. You get Usher ticket. It's coming with some fake songs. You're performing live.

[Wale]

He made you earn them joints.

[Fat Joe]

I can't lie. He came to my show after he came to Dre's and hung out with me. And that was against his contract. He couldn't really.

[Wale]

But, oh, yeah, they vicious, man.

[Fat Joe]

Usher, you owe me sneakers. You owe me all type of. No, Usher owe you sneakers? Usher owes me sneakers. Usher had me perform Rick Owen Jones, his goddaughter's sweet 16 fat joe greatest Hits. And he looked me in my eyes and said, yo, I got you with the Jordans. That motherfucker been skating for me forever.

[Wale]

His Jordan connect any more than yours?

[Fat Joe]

No, I know. I know Ushers, he just want a.

[Jada]

Pair that they made for us.

[Wale]

No.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, I want that.

[Wale]

USACR joints.

[Fat Joe]

I want. I want this.

[Wale]

You want them to say confessions on his head.

[Fat Joe]

I want this to say simple. I want that shit to say simple. You see what I'm saying? Y' all got the camera. I want. I want the Ushers to say something.

[Wale]

He needs something exclusive from us.

[Fat Joe]

Yes.

[Wale]

I ain't even know he had any.

[Fat Joe]

Thank God I ain't got no holes on my side, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no, he got him.

[Jada]

They made him some for making them some shit.

[Fat Joe]

He made one for his wedding or something.

[Wale]

Oh, that's like the. I could call MJ myself.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, he got it.

[Wale]

Yeah, yeah, he got.

[Fat Joe]

He got.

[Jada]

He got exclusives. They like for us, you know, I can't see you with a pair of his joints.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, yeah, no, they.

[Jada]

They be dazzled up, though.

[Fat Joe]

They got Justin Timberlake's. Them shits with all that shine and all that.

[Jada]

What's your way inside?

[Wale]

You don't care. He just wants to.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, you want them easier.

[Jada]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Them for that clearance sale, you know.

[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

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[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

Let's get to it.

[Jada]

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[Fat Joe]

Tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.

[Fat Joe]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and.

[Jada]

Someone who once googled Do I have.

[Fat Joe]

Scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Talking about health in a different way.

[Jada]

It's not only about what we can.

[Fat Joe]

Do to improve our health, but also.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

What our health says about us and the way we're living.

[Jada]

Like our episode where we look at diabetes.

[Fat Joe]

Diabetes in the United states.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

I mean 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Fat Joe]

How preventable is type 2?

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, it's hard to explain to rest.

[Jada]

Of the world that like your mangoes.

[Fat Joe]

Are fine because mangoes are incredible.

[Jada]

But like you don't even know.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

You don't know.

[Jada]

You don't know.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in.

[Fat Joe]

Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Wale]

All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Fat Joe]

I'M telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Jada]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Kern.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Jada]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Fat Joe]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.

[Wale]

They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Fat Joe]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava For Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Jada]

Michael Lewis here.

[Fat Joe]

My book the Big Short tells the story of the buildup and burst of the US housing market back in 2008.

[Jada]

It follows a few unlikely but lucky.

[Fat Joe]

People who saw the real estate market for the black hole it would become.

[Jada]

And eventually made billions of dollars from that perception. It was like feeding the monster, said Eisman.

[Fat Joe]

We fed the monster until it blew up.

[Jada]

The monster was exploding, yet on the.

[Fat Joe]

Streets of Manhattan, there was no sign anything important had just happened. Now, 15 years after the Big Short's.

[Jada]

Original release and a decade after it.

[Fat Joe]

Became an Academy Award winning movie, I've recorded an audiobook edition for the very first time. The Big Short Story. What it means when people start betting against the market and who really pays for an unchecked financial system is as.

[Jada]

Relevant today as it's ever been, offering.

[Fat Joe]

Invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics.

[Jada]

Get the Big Short now at Pushkin.

[Fat Joe]

Fm Audiobooks or wherever audiobooks are sold.

[Jada]

It'S okay not to be okay sometimes.

[Wale]

And be able to build strength and love within each other.

[Jada]

Thanksgiving isn't just about food.

[Fat Joe]

It's a day for us to show.

[Jada]

Up for one another. I'm Elliot Khani, host of the podcast.

[Fat Joe]

Family Therapy, a series where real families.

[Jada]

Come together to heal and find hope. What would be a clue that would be like?

[Fat Joe]

I've gotten lots of text messages from him.

[Jada]

This one's from a little bit better.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Of a version of him because he's feeding himself well. It's always a concern, like, are you eating well? He's actually an amazing cook.

[Fat Joe]

There was this one time where we had neighbors and I saved their dog.

[Wale]

And I ended up inviting them over for food. And that was, like, one of my proudest moments.

[Jada]

This is family therapy. Real families, real stories on a journey to heal together. Listen to season two of family therapy.

[Fat Joe]

Every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And, you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood.

[Jada]

Out of the blue, I see this.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay.

[Fat Joe]

The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.

[Jada]

No way I die laughing.

[Fat Joe]

I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'.

[Jada]

All.

[Fat Joe]

They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jada]

Football season. You. You play football?

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Jada]

What was your.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

You.

[Jada]

You aspired to to make it to the NFL?

[Wale]

Everybody thought they was going to the league when we little, like. But my first day of camp in college. Cause I was recruited as a wide receiver. Cause I was playing running back my whole life. But I was too small to play running back in college. But then I seen them Florida N running routes the first day. I said, all right, let me. I'll go back to running back. So I had to work my way back up that jump. Cause I was not running like that. Yeah. And then I got kicked out.

[Fat Joe]

Shout out. My man Freezy out there in Miami.

[Jada]

They kicked him out of Robin Morris. I know y' all caught the vapors now.

[Wale]

Coach Joe Walton. Coach is Joe Walton. He used to coach the Jets. That was my coach. And then I transferred to Virginia State, and I was. I was. I was getting to it out there.

[Fat Joe]

You know, the thing about living in Miami. Shit be 120 degrees. Fucking. They got the fucking equipment on 120.

[Jada]

That's why they.

[Wale]

I learned more about football spending two weeks in Carroll City my freshman year of college than I did the whole first season at Robert Moore. I learned More about football in Carroll City. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

I'm the only guy that never played but got thrown out the park. Rich Blair used to play and they penalized him for 15 yards. And then they took away another 15 yards. You could bring Rich in here if I'm lying. They made me get the fuck out the park. The referee, I'm like, you Foot Locker. I was going to bad out there. I mean the most dangerous fan women out there.

[Wale]

You know, the women should.

[Fat Joe]

Man, the women used to go, yeah, Joe, this. When they start taking them yards, it was like, get the fuck out. Crack. Get. I was costing them the game. I kept going crazy out there. But Florida, a different thing with the football, bro.

[Wale]

Who's your team? NFL.

[Fat Joe]

Well, NFL, I told you, I'm a bandwagon. I'm Kansas City Chiefs.

[Jada]

You know, I've been in Kansas City.

[Fat Joe]

Fit couple of years since they've been winning.

[Wale]

Since Travis. Since Travis. Travis Kelsey did the joint. Hello. But in basketball, it's Knicks, you know. You ain't budging on that.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, I can't do nothing.

[Wale]

I feel like if the Giants was like doing better like you, you gonna be. You gonna come in with Johnson, Doc.

[Fat Joe]

Go there for no reason, dog.

[Wale]

Man, I remember you from when, yo, me and your pops, man.

[Jada]

Remember I paid for your pop water jets.

[Wale]

What do you mean? I got my.

[Fat Joe]

I've been around, yo. I've been around too long to get suckered by the Giants and Jets. I've been around too long and Miami ain't happening. Miami Dolphins. I lived in Miami 20 something years. I watched them get their ass whipped every week that on the TV 21 to 7, like. But one thing I do know.

[Jada]

What about the Heat?

[Wale]

I had the heat with them.

[Jada]

He wasn't going.

[Fat Joe]

I'm always been a Nick fan, you know, in solidarity with the Heat, you know, I was in the studio. You've been in the studio too many times with them cursing me out every night for years. The Knicks sucked. The Heat was winning chips. Do you know the type of verbal abuse these guys were giving me? An hour to 2. You go to the studio, 7 o', clock, you talk shit for two hours. Guess what was the two hours? Y' all niggas is trash. This, this, that, yo. I mean, this crazy. Then they'll play me on the 2k and bust my ass with the Heat on the nick. Like it's just disrespect for many years.

[Wale]

But we go through that with Redskins Commanders. Like there's a lot of. I remember HOV used To be Jonah all the time. Cause he's a Cowboys fan. We ain't had nothing to brag about in a long time. So I get it. That's what I'm saying.

[Fat Joe]

And your Washington, your basketball team ain't nothing to brag about either, huh?

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Them all.

[Fat Joe]

The last thing y' all had was John Wall, huh?

[Wale]

Yeah, man. Shout out to John. We gonna be all right soon, though.

[Jada]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Wale]

Trust the process. Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

They look. They look pores lengthy. They look like couldn't do that.

[Wale]

You got. You got more bare vocabulary.

[Jada]

Whoa, whoa.

[Fat Joe]

No, they don't. What you call that when they get the out of here, man? You know what the. I'm talking about them boys animating.

[Wale]

Use anime or something.

[Fat Joe]

Use animating something crazy.

[Jada]

I take that that is corporate porn.

[Fat Joe]

To be you as a basketball fan. I'm feeling real good right now.

[Wale]

You got. I think we went in the chip don't get too.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, we went in.

[Wale]

I mean, somebody tell me.

[Fat Joe]

I want y'.

[Jada]

All.

[Fat Joe]

All of America, all over the world.

[Wale]

Secret money, though, Joe.

[Fat Joe]

Huh?

[Wale]

Huh? They talking about secret money in the NBA with these contracts and all of that. They say that they coming for the Knicks. That's what I heard.

[Fat Joe]

That's the rumor.

[Wale]

That's what they say.

[Fat Joe]

My do whatever they want, man. It's our time. That's how now once we get our time, they want to come and start corruption.

[Wale]

The Clippers started it, but y' all gonna finish your problem.

[Jada]

You see how they swept that Clipper under the rug.

[Wale]

They gonna.

[Jada]

They gonna make the Knicks go blow our join them.

[Wale]

He want Fat Jo and every give a.

[Fat Joe]

What they do. I'm telling you that our bench is stacked up. Our starting five is phenom.

[Wale]

You know, when people.

[Fat Joe]

When people. I'm telling y'.

[Wale]

All. When people from other countries, Americans. That's how I'm telling you the truth right now.

[Fat Joe]

Listen to what I'm saying. He always gets mad at me. Delusion. I get it. You're.

[Wale]

I get it. You're passionate about the next.

[Fat Joe]

We delusional. No, you are. No, we're winning the chip this year. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

[Jada]

You gonna step out there and say that?

[Fat Joe]

I know so.

[Wale]

All right.

[Fat Joe]

What I'm trying to tell you is basketball's my life. Guys. We could tell basketball is my life.

[Jada]

How often you get out there.

[Fat Joe]

He always says Rucker ain't NBA Joe. But what I can tell you is them six championships I won at the Rucker. We were stacked from 1 to 15. The Knicks have a bench, and they got to start in five. Nobody's gonna stop us this year. Y' all gonna see.

[Wale]

So you saying because I have hot stars sitting on them, that the Knicks gonna be good? Cause you know how to coach. No, you.

[Fat Joe]

I'm not saying that. What I am. No, I know all them. Like, yeah. What I'm saying to you.

[Jada]

Nah, nah, that's all I'm telling.

[Fat Joe]

NBA was stacked. Okay. Sorry for everybody else.

[Wale]

I root for the Knicks, too. Cause I got a lot. We don't have nothing to root for most of the time in basketball. So I get it. I get it. But he kind of. That might be too big.

[Fat Joe]

No, I'm telling you.

[Wale]

To reach. It was a reach to reach.

[Fat Joe]

It's now enough. Boston fell apart. Every team. Boston fell apart.

[Jada]

They got with everybody. It's gonna be a little tough.

[Fat Joe]

They're gonna be.

[Wale]

I.

[Fat Joe]

They're not gonna beat us. And when they had everybody. We beat them last year, everybody said, look, this is a Knicks walk in the park.

[Jada]

See, that's where you go. That's where the whole studio yardage, y'.

[Fat Joe]

All.

[Jada]

She supposed to win.

[Wale]

O.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, that's.

[Jada]

You can't say that.

[Fat Joe]

Locker room material health. With good health, nobody's beating us. I'm telling you, we gonna win this, Chip. We gonna around. Okay?

[Wale]

See, and we just gotta.

[Fat Joe]

You know, we gotta rough them up a little.

[Wale]

Okay?

[Fat Joe]

You know.

[Jada]

I seen you with tips. What's up with them?

[Fat Joe]

You might not want to know, man.

[Jada]

But love, I want to know. The people want to know.

[Fat Joe]

I went to buy that shit, right? I wanted. I bought shit, too.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Jada]

No, you was in Louis.

[Fat Joe]

Tibbs was in them. You was in Louis. And you ain't know. I was across the street in Burdock. So you was like, yo, Joe, you and Louie. Cause I called.

[Jada]

That's where Tibbs was at.

[Fat Joe]

Tibbs was over there and burn off with it. By the way, Tibbs is mad. But I realized Tibbs walked away with 30 million. They fought.

[Jada]

One thing about Tibbs, he's up Connor's is this.

[Wale]

That's crazy.

[Fat Joe]

I am. I hate myself.

[Wale]

They on the Belichick like that, too.

[Fat Joe]

What do we gotta do? I gotta go to Mongolia to get out to make a dollar.

[Wale]

They're gonna give him the same thing like nobody wants.

[Fat Joe]

I gotta go to Mongolia. I gotta get booked at some shows where the. Is like, yo, be careful, Joe. The gang members came in there with the guns, and to make a$, make 30 million on the walk out. Why you not mad like me, man.

[Jada]

Ain't got nothing to do with that man business, man.

[Fat Joe]

Well, Tim said. I told him, come on the podcast, you know I love.

[Jada]

Said, hell, no.

[Fat Joe]

And he said, yes.

[Jada]

What?

[Fat Joe]

He said, I'm gonna get your number. I said, yo, just. Just ask Worldwide. He said, Wets won't be talking to him no time soon.

[Jada]

Yeah, they said, you should have knew.

[Fat Joe]

That he spotted him with 30 million on the walkout.

[Jada]

Yeah, now he wanted coach, man.

[Wale]

Yeah, he want to coach the nigga play.

[Fat Joe]

58 West. Lives across the street from me. I seen him yesterday walking, exercise. I told him what Tim said.

[Wale]

He said, man, that's my guy, man.

[Fat Joe]

He said that, man, I know him 30 years. That man should have sent me some chocolates and champagne. He walked off with 30M.

[Jada]

He wants the coach.

[Wale]

He just can't see past that line.

[Fat Joe]

Somebody please give me 30m.

[Jada]

So could the National. They eat 30m's right now. Tell you get out of here. Joey is over.

[Wale]

You out.

[Fat Joe]

I'm taking the 30 coconut. Coconut. But the ones that you could peel the inside with the spoon on the beach. Peace to the gods. One grand rising.

[Wale]

Beloved Rises.

[Fat Joe]

Beloved. I don't know what y' all waiting for. Like, yo, that's what we doing it for. You know what I'm saying? Like, let me get out of here.

[Wale]

30M.

[Jada]

How you feel about the state of the music industry, whatever's left of it right now, man. Way.

[Fat Joe]

It's kids a lot.

[Wale]

My last album was like, four years ago, and so much has happened. Changed dramatically for you, like the styles, the sub genres, the. There's been artists that came and went in that time.

[Jada]

That's a fact.

[Wale]

Literally came and went. Like the industry plant stuff that some people think is real, some people not. Like, you know, fans being more aware. It's just. It's the wild, wild west right now.

[Jada]

I think I'm on Def Jam, too.

[Wale]

Oh, yeah, you think?

[Jada]

The last time I went there, it was crazy. It's a bunch of young kids. It's like this show on Netflix with the levels that you like, Stay. And I went to the floor, and there's a bunch of new youth.

[Fat Joe]

What's the show?

[Wale]

Squeaky?

[Jada]

No, it's almost. It's like squid games mixed with the other that came out doing the. The food on the man with the levels.

[Fat Joe]

Oh, the food. Yeah. It's like that.

[Jada]

I went to this floor, I seen nobody I knew, but it was like a bunch of young kids. Know what I'm saying? They in control. Then they Took me all the way up to the towers. Then I saw all of the people that I used to know, all of my people that worked on my album. So that freaked me out. That alone, it's a whole. They put the youth.

[Wale]

So many people are like, yeah, people I don't know.

[Jada]

Then a few that I knew, they put them in the chimney.

[Wale]

Well, I never know.

[Jada]

What was that?

[Fat Joe]

The chimneys kind of cold.

[Jada]

Supposed to be kind of hot. Put them up. I'm like, yo, now I gotta meet a whole new.

[Fat Joe]

Well, you know, people gotta work. And the problem is that a lot of people that been gatekeeping and they've been getting their checks for years and.

[Jada]

Years and years, they're getting exposed, lazy.

[Fat Joe]

And so they don't really want to put in that work and that pain, you know? I got a friend, he's my brother. I don't want to say his name, but say it. Nah, I can't do that. But he be telling me, yo, I gotta work. He been in the industry, getting the check for 30 years. That's his man. And he's like, yo, they actually got me working. I said, well, what the fuck you think this is? Like, you're getting a check, you have to work.

[Wale]

There's not a lot of passion at all. There's not a lot of passion.

[Jada]

One thing I learned about this industry, when you find people that rock with you and go off for you, you should keep them rapport in relationships because it's not going to be a lot of them but that's passionate about their job and really want to help you. You know what I mean?

[Fat Joe]

You know, I got both.

[Wale]

I got.

[Fat Joe]

I agree with both of you guys, right? But, you know, it's a time for the youth to show what they know in the industry and all that. And we can't have. Look what I'm gonna say. I ain't gonna say it because I got. No, no, no. Cause I got too many friends, too many people that I love, too many people responsible for my career, DJs and all that. But when you got DJs, unless they DJing in the greatest hits station, we got those 94.7the block WBLS. You can't be 60 trying to control the rap game. They gotta be some young dudes that gotta get up in there and start DJing. They gotta be some young kids that you gotta hire that know what's going on.

[Wale]

I think nobody got the patience. That's my experience with a lot of the younger people. Because we trying to build a staff of what we Doing too. But like, everybody, they don't realize you gotta go from here to there to there. They think it's this for a couple of weeks and then it's right there. And like, all we know is like climbing up like that. But like instant gratification is like.

[Fat Joe]

You know what, what this conversation brings me to is Kanye west be bugged out, right? And he do bugged out shit. But I agree with him where the man is saying he's selling every Adidas sneaker, he a fucking billionaire, and they put him to talk to somebody's son when he's discussing his, his sneakers and all that as a kid there making 90,000 a year, literally telling them what to do. Like, nah, we ain't doing it like that. Yo, we doing that. He like, yo, bro, I'm. I'm keeping the lights on in Adidas.

[Jada]

Yeah, but still, still protocol.

[Fat Joe]

You tell a billion dollar dude to walk up in there and what do you think the.

[Jada]

That gave him that deal? What you think they got? I don't mean this because he got that it's still somebody higher than him and somebody higher than that.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I agree with him. I agree with him. I think there's certain people that if, you know, they win all the time, they keep the lights on. They know how to put it up. Business man don't have no young kid.

[Jada]

You don't get what you ask for. You get what you negotiate. You know that. I gotta use the bathroom on that.

[Fat Joe]

Oh. Who was the number one DJ in. In Washington D.C. i was a.

[Wale]

When. When you used to be coming all the time. I remember.

[Fat Joe]

No, that was Flex.

[Wale]

Flex was the there of reflects DJ flexing. WBDC Alize at 93.9 and then the light skinned.

[Fat Joe]

That's my man. What's the light skinned guy over there.

[Jada]

He's too quick.

[Fat Joe]

Silver the man.

[Wale]

Yeah, that's when I first met you, when you came to 93.9. I saw you there and I was.

[Fat Joe]

I was still quick Silver. Half fat Joe in the back of his pocket. And every year I performed for his birthday party. I swear to God. Baltimore, D.C. now that he had me, every year he come yo, Joe. My birthday. Quicksilver the man. Flex the man. What's my man? Who at the show on bet.

[Wale]

Donnie Simpson.

[Fat Joe]

Joe Claire. Simpson.

[Jada]

Joe Claire.

[Fat Joe]

Joe Claire. That's all dmc?

[Jada]

Yeah, that's all. It's all down there.

[Fat Joe]

We gotta shout them out. Quicksilver Flex.

[Wale]

DJ Alize. DJ Alize, Bacon Bear.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, Steph, we all peace stool man. It wouldn't be no Fat Joe without peace, too. He still. I love you, man. Everything you ever did for me. Quicksilver.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Quick.

[Jada]

Silver Flex. Steph Lover. DJ Alize.

[Wale]

Analyze.

[Jada]

Analyze.

[Fat Joe]

Joe Claire.

[Jada]

Joe Claire.

[Wale]

Donnie Simpson.

[Jada]

Donnie Simpson.

[Fat Joe]

Big last Simpson. Hold up the whole Go Go music. Doing the butt era. Doing the butt.

[Wale]

Ow.

[Fat Joe]

Sex. Say sex saying, yo, that was this.

[Wale]

Yeah.

[Fat Joe]

Watch my man let my music up. Don't do that. DJ Cool, bro. Legend.

[Jada]

DJ Cool. Everybody do. Listen. We all been booked to do halftimes at NBA shit. I just seen you rip Dubai. Nobody risked halftime like DJ Cool. He did something I never. His shit wasn't off. They put his DJ on the court with. He tore the built. His was better than the game.

[Fat Joe]

Let me clear my throat. Have mercy, baby. You know I don't lie.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

What?

[Fat Joe]

Let me clear my thoughts.

[Jada]

This thing haven't got the words right to a song in years.

[Fat Joe]

I don't even get my own lyrics right.

[Wale]

Damage you there. We feel it, though.

[Jada]

He switching out on my daughter.

[Fat Joe]

I don't even get my own right. Yo, Remy. A podcast. Remy been disrespecting me forever. She was like, yo, bro, what the wrong. You don't even get your words right. I said, you know I'm fried, yo.

[Jada]

Shout out. Shout out to North Carolina A and T. I just did their homecoming.

[Fat Joe]

You caught up body at that. I watched you on Instagram.

[Jada]

I let Fendi rock with me. Never get. He was on a feeling. No, he's saying his feelings was Yugoslavian. It was Sylvanian. It was everything. Except with they. I'm like, finley, you're not even saying American. You're saying, generation don't say nothing in the same. He's filling it in. I'm saying this. I'm about to mess up the whole. I start laughing. I'm like, yo, Dooks, shut up.

[Fat Joe]

Listen, I'm in Miami.

[Jada]

Gibberish for the Philly.

[Fat Joe]

I'm in Miami. And you know how that shit happened. You definitely know. You one of the kings of this shit. I caught a miracle bag. They called me from Cancun, said, busta Miles, they coming. Thank you, man, did I need that bag right? So they sent a private plan. We went out there. Rich player was my hype man. Ooh, the worst performance ever seen in a yo Stink the football, my N. Yo, he still. He still be bragging about that 15 years later. Remember the time I hyped you? I'm like, yo, that was the worst. Yo, we just can't do that money Monday morning quarterback. You let your man hype Your up that shit be the worst. Fendi, he was good on nothing.

[Jada]

Like with the Aggie Pride, this, that when there's no words. When they dropped the song, he should have just stepped back. He had a flashback. He thought he was Styles Luch, thought he was mad people with money to get nobody right.

[Fat Joe]

Yeah, Fendi's my man. I had a good. I love him, but I, I, I.

[Jada]

His iron man skill didn't finish, so he never doing it.

[Fat Joe]

Yo, Fendi said, just stick to looking pretty, baby. Stay out the way. Let's go to the last song off the new lp.

[Jada]

Everything is a lot, man.

[Fat Joe]

You gotta love this album. This album is really, really great. We put in that work.

[Jada]

November 14th, man, before you go buy some, purchase you some good music to do. You know what I mean? Stream it.

[Wale]

No, buy it.

[Jada]

Buy it.

[Wale]

Streams is cool.

[Jada]

The streams is cool. But we need per. We need sales.

[Wale]

There you go.

[Jada]

You know what I mean? We need sales.

[Fat Joe]

So I stream more albums. So what's the difference?

[Jada]

You're doing nothing.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

How?

[Wale]

You don't know how. You don't know.

[Fat Joe]

I don't have a sound system. I don't know how to buy.

[Jada]

I go and go say that, ladies and gentlemen. He's delusional, right? He buys you artists, we buy your music. And let's reciprocate.

[Wale]

Hold on, hold on.

[Fat Joe]

Let's toast to this out some Ace of Spade.

[Wale]

I see that.

[Fat Joe]

Sorry, I'm right there.

[Jada]

Everything's a lot. November 14th. All platforms shout out to my brother still going crazy. All you suck.

[Fat Joe]

Let me ask you one question before we go to that song. I see you talking a lot about drinking and addiction and drinking. Did you go through a time?

[Wale]

I think everybody in this industry, if you've been in this gym longer than like six years, you've been through some traumatic shit. Like, regardless, just the way. No, I don't, I don't. I've yet to see any of our peers that have been in it for longer than six, seven years. It's like one or two traumatic things that kind of rewire how your brain is. So I think we all have indulged in vices at particular moments. Like for whatever reason, to push through something, to numb something, or simply because, like, this shit wasn't made for all this. Like, we wasn't made to see all these opinions and all that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just too much, it's too heavy. It's a lot. And then you have. Everything's a lot.

[Fat Joe]

And then you Gotta act like you perfect and all that.

[Wale]

Yeah. Cause this game. You can't.

[Fat Joe]

This game, yo. Sometimes they try to kill me, Wale. I'm not even lying.

[Wale]

Nah, they do. They come for you.

[Fat Joe]

Sometimes I be like.

[Wale]

I be like. But everybody. We all go.

[Fat Joe]

Everybody goes. But I be thinking it's the price we pay. Unfortunately, I don't know if it's just our community, because we always got to refer back to the Jews and these guys, whether they get along.

[Jada]

We playing a song.

[Fat Joe]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jada]

What the.

[Fat Joe]

I'm trying to tell you now.

[Jada]

Hey.

[Wale]

So, look, everything's a lot. November 14th.

[Fat Joe]

This song is called I Gotta Finish One.

[Wale]

And this song is called Belly, Right? And it's just really about what we.

[Fat Joe]

Were just talking about, making it look like I was saying something bad.

[Wale]

I just. When I.

[Fat Joe]

How much my Jewish friends don't get along. They work together and they make money together and they do business together. And for some reason, I feel like in this industry, everybody try to knock you down for doing good. I'm just saying that the new song. Let's Go, let's get to it.

[Jada]

I like how you come together.

[Fat Joe]

It's the truth, though. That's all I was gonna say.

[Wale]

And welcome back. My name is Wale. This song's called Belly. And it's just really about balancing both sides of my life from the reality of the situation I'm in, trauma I've been through, and, like, survivor's guilt. Like, all of that in one.

[Jada]

This is called everything's a lot. November 14th.

[Fat Joe]

Everything's alive.

[Wale]

They say the strings fake the box Running this thing way Still I gotta make that band count. My cheesecake all size my free play A man turning from my barber get your free faith oh, wait, tell me where we at Though I'm looking through the windows of your soul I'm back though I lost some good man. Cause they couldn't see the back door we black bearing arms now keep it in the satchel page all this hating on me isn't natural But God gave me this and atheists could see the passion and y' all lame hydroplaning with the crash out but everything a lot so bring everything yeah, we celebrating my opposition ain't not the missing God's good But I often question him when he listen. The hate is bigger than me the weight is bigger than me they crashing out. I feel like I'm at Talladega winning Chocolate City. We supposed to be good. Never thought I'd see Rachel Lemons on social media. They out they cotton picking minds they don't know the details me and Cass talking silk temple Beverly hills southwest southwest shout out to 106 every show I had a platinum they was getting me lit everybody show you love when you giving them one day you say no and no longer pretend to be friends that's right man don't sketch God drawing and I lost to dippers I lost some defense I lost it all when I got it all I'm a target again when everything you do is offensive you be hard to defend I'm going.

[Fat Joe]

Love this top rapper.

[Wale]

Fans on melro chain on mayday I rest patient friends on jpeg how can I express and the that got me rich that depression and the pressure is the look wine drinking and Malibu is a mafa used to buy ten dollar pieces with nine bucks a dollar short a day late with Broadways I'm sorry I'm not for play play smoke conversations are vacay they all say we brothers I feel like I'm bison daylight yeah I got a stripper from LA my cousin just had a wedding I put her ass in the K yeah maybe I'm way too careless or made me need to appear to my parents I'm on the same way look the ebb and flow of this talent is like a balancing act but my parents gave me my stage name Hands on Melrose chain on mayday IRS patient friends on jpeg how can I express in the that got me rich that depression and depression is the plans on Melrose chain on mayday eyebrows patient everybody waiting how can I express and the that got me lit that depression depression the same thing and the balletta and the Bella and the ballet.

[Jada]

I was not.

[Fat Joe]

This ain't that that ain't this Crack and kiss, give it up for our guest, the one and only Wale.

[Wale]

Thank y' all very much for your hospitality.

[Jada]

Everything's a lot. November 14th you heard me.

[Wale]

Let's get it.

[Fat Joe]

On the podcast Health stuff.

[Jada]

We are tackling all the health questions.

[Fat Joe]

That keep you up at night.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

I'm Dr. Priyanka Wali, a double board certified physician.

[Fat Joe]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and.

[Jada]

Someone who once googled do I have.

[Fat Joe]

Scurvy at 3am and on our show we're talking about health in a different way.

[Jada]

Like our episode of where we look.

[Fat Joe]

At diabetes in the United states.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Fat Joe]

How preventable is type 2?

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Extremely. Listen to Health Stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Fat Joe]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert and I'll be your tour guide on a wild trip through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life. Listen to Genaworld on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jada]

I'm Jonathan Goldstein and on the new season of Heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at.

[Wale]

Him and said, this isn't a joke.

[Jada]

A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old and a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.

[Fat Joe]

How can one 1 year old woman.

[Wale]

Fall in love again?

[Jada]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, Chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you. 100% of women go through menopause.

[Jada]

Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Podcast Host / Doctor (various, e.g., Dr. Priyanka Wali, Dr. Elizabeth Poynter)]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.