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Joe and Jada - Wu-Tang's Raekwon & Mobb Deep's Havoc on '36 Chambers,' Prodigy & REAL hip hop
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Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. So get money, do what you do. Get money. But stop calling everything hip hop, man. Cuz everything ain't hip hop. Yeah, yeah. What's up, y'? All? It's your boy, Joe Crack. You know who it is. Your boy Jada. Know what this is the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. You know what I mean? The numbers speak for themselves, but today is just that again. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome my brothers Raekwon Havoc to the Joe and Jada show, make some more. Nah, shala, nah, shallah. You ain't get. You ain't do that intro, right? God, Ray Kwan in this, having this. This is a different type of, like, royalty on his couch. Definitely always there's nothing. But this ain't our regular couch. If I ever caused you any type of problems or anything. Cause, you know, he's one of my best friends in hip hop. Hold on, hold on. Have Ray pardon me because he's going to tweak out several times. Well, they know I'm fried. I just have to give him. What the fuck you think? I have to give him the heads up. I'm actually putting the surgeon general. The surgeon general, the clause. I'm like, yo, Ray, man, I know I've done. Might have caused you so much sick just being this friend. This is one of my closest friends on the earth. So I notice shit come to him. You think you just start working with me and niggas is telling you, yo, fuck Joe, yo, he's wild. He's just. He been catching straight bullets for 30. How's the new Fried you? Yo, this guy been catching the strays for 30 years. He been. I'm catching the new ones. I'm just telling him that I didn't prepare. And Havoc is in the building. Steve Rifkin's in the building. Yo, have. Yeah, I gotta take it to. Don't start. It's way too early. I didn't say it. Yo, you know, I got cousins. I got cousins for Queensbridge. I used to be in Queensbridge. Oh, as a kid, he threw me down. I'm gonna keep it real with you, fat Spanish kid. I wasn't even Joey Crack like that. I used to visit my cousins in Queensbridge. I thought it was Brooklyn at Brooklyn every summer. Brooklyn is Williamsburg, Cornelia, all that shit over there. Williamsburg. Listen, you fucking me up. I'm telling them I got cousins. My cousin Boo Boo passed away. My cousin Yvette. Gravity's one of the biggest breakdancers in the world. His mother and them, they come from Queensbridge projects, my cousins. Queensbridge, right. I think that's the most royal projects probably in the world of hip hop. Biggest, right? Yeah, but I'm just saying, the only other project I could compare to that is maybe Cabrini Green in Chicago. They're not even here. But just growing up in Queensbridge, what was that like? Was you really coming outside, seeing Shannon on the corner? Roxanne, Shanta. What was that like? Because I tell people my story. Growing up in The Bronx and Mr. Ness and Melly Mel and all of them. And they look at me like I'm lying or I'm an alien. Please tell me, as a kid, what was it like walking around Queensbridge when you hearing that? Eh, eh. To do the bridge. To do. What the fuck was that like? Nah, that. That. That was the type of shit that made you be proud to be from qb, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you go to school, n be like, where you from? I'm like, I'm from Queensbridge, you know what I'm saying? Cause we got the song just like. You know what I mean? Just bridge. You know what I mean? The bridge, like, straight up, like, you know where I'm from. Like, qb, so you proud. And then you got MC Shan walking around with the different pumas. Or you might see Molly Ma and Roxanne Shantae. So that boosts your confidence up, you know what I'm saying? To become somebody. Cause you seeing somebody that came from around your way, that made it coming through with the BMWs and all that shit. So that was a definite. What year was that shit, man? Like, 86, 84, you know what I'm saying? Seeing Roxanne Shantain 84 when I'm like three years old. That's what I'm talking about. I seen Mr. Ness. I was in the supermarket. My brother was like, yo, this is Mr. Ness. He had the braids already with the beads and had the Nikes. Like he was a superstar. Like, when you looked at him, you already knew. Yo, oh, shit, who this? Like, he was walking around a supermarket, like, looking like a star. You know what I'm saying? And you went there because it intrigues me. You know, We've been around your hood. We've been around your hood. I've been around his hood. Like, I used to pump coogee rap and drive around his hood in Queens. You know, we all been intrigued with each other's hoods, but y' all hood, they was the original superheroes, the first supergroup in hip hop. Cause you got Biz, you got Molly Ma, you got the game in the Choco, because you got Mr. Magic. So y' all own the radio station with Fly Jock Word. You got Craig G. You got Master H, you got Roxanne, Sean, Big Daddy Kane. Straight up. What kind of shit is this? So the symphony's ringing off, and you seeing them on the block, that is. I mean, like I said, man, that was an inspiration. And they style was just crazy. Cause y' all remember the Coca Cola shirts and. Yeah, like that. The Benettons, they was coming through with all that. Yeah, they was coming through with that. And the Big Daddy King, like, smooth operator. There's no way you could become a fucking rapper. You know what I'm saying? Seeing that shit. You know what I mean? Well, Joe, you was around. You was around too, though. Don't start them. Don't start them. I was, Ray, but I'm just talking about his block. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because when it comes to hip hop, I'm talking about global hip hop. You know, the bridge is what Compton is to la, right? When the first time we got a connection with LA is coming straight out of Compton. And you like, what the fuck? Eazy with a flamethrower. You like this. I gotta go there, right? And so that. I'm just trying to bring that essence us. But I was around all that. Now the God, Brooklyn, your Brooklyn days, then your Staten island days. I was out there early with y', all. You know what I'm saying? So what was it for y'? All? They had a mega group out of Staten island, too. Force mds. Force mds. Woo. Force mds. You know, legendary. Wow. No, no, that's like they. They. Maybe they would have kept going and made more hits. It would have been like a new addition like that. No, they came before Boyz II Men, though, right? The Four. Yes. Hell, yeah. If you don't. Yeah. Yo, force them D's at the house a long time before. Boyz didn't Men. You right. They was doing shit. I guess everybody was probably trying to compare them as at one point, you know what I'm saying? I think you had the corner. I say they paved the way. I don't know. Wasn't he from Staten island that threw him? Don't. I don't know. UMC's, UMCs. Are they Staten island, right? Yo, you gotta stop, yo. Don't do that. Yo, Jada, I'm a journey, yo. Shaheen Reed is in the building. Journalists of all journalists. We got so much royalty here. But what would you know? Staten Island. Ray came from Brooklyn first, man. I know that. You gotta say that first. I mean, you know, tell us the Brooklyn aspect of it. Yeah, I mean, you know, I was a kid, man. You know, my mom's. You know, we come from Brownsville. My mom's got us out of there around. I was around nine years old. Never knew my dad. Never had a relationship with him. It's like when she had me, she found out that he was in the drugs and, you know, back in the 70s, I guess, you know, he was doing a lot of gangster shit and getting in the shit. And then when she found out he was on drugs, she just said, yo, you got the bow. You know, my mom's just like a tough skinned lady. So she felt like at the end of the day, like, yo, you, nah, I can't have you around my kid. I don't even want to fuck with you. Because she just felt like he was getting into too much shit, you know, it got to the point where she was like, you know. Cause his. His mother lived in East New York. Lived in the projects. Atlantic Towers, East New York Avenue, rather. Right around that area right there. Because I'm from Ocean Hill. So between Ocean Hill, you know, you right across Atlantic Avenue. Yeah, turn into East New York. So anyway, you know, never had a relationship with them. They robbed our crib one time. We wasn't there in Brooklyn. Normal School in Brooklyn. And now that just made my moms be like, yo, y' all know what? Let's get the out of here. You know what I mean? And she has sisters that lived in Staten island already. So they told her, they said, yo, come to Staten Island. It's a little bit more safer. It's a little better. And they was helping her too, because she needed some help at the time. Cause she had us young, so she was still going to work. She's working at the Twin Towers and all that. So she moved us to the island. So I left BK when I was around 8. And you kept that. You know, it was over there, East New York. I told a story one time on the pod. It's where my aunt used to live on this hill. Summit Hill or Miller? Miller Hill. My aunt, my godmother, I used to spend summers over there. And then I went to the projects and the DJ was playing that. Baby, we can do it Take your time do it right we can do it, baby. Yo, let me tell you something. That's one of the first. I mean, pause on a higher level. I don't know if I'm saying it right, but that's one of the first songs that ever stimulated my brain in a different way. Like I was a kid. But I knew when I heard it. I said, this is a masterpiece. Like, I heard the music and everything. I would, you know, just a fan. I just was like, yo, this is incredible. This was dancing on my brain. Like, yo, this is crazy. He played it like three, four times. Staten Island. Y' all threw that motherfucker on your back on the legendariest of. Of. Of forms. And y' all actually made that like a bridge. You personally, you meth, ghost, genius, you got. Y' all made that shit like the bridge of our era, right? You know what I mean? Because I'm thinking about superheroes. You know, One night I come out the club. I'll keep it real with you. I came out the club in the Bronx, it was like five, six in the morning. And I keep it all the way tall with you, if you really want to know. KRS1 had a show in the Bronx and they pulled up. The whole entire Juice crew pulled up. And when we came outside, it was like six in the morning. He had already performed, like two o'. Clock. They was all outside. They had Jeeps, Benzes, Dapper Dance shit, this thing. They was all outside like. This is the first time I ever seen the Big Daddy Kane wide body Kid Benz this. They was all outside like this. I don't know what they was coming for. They just was like, fuck it. We going to the Bronx and we going. You know what I'm saying? But that's what I mean by superheroes, right? That's how it was. Or that's how it is. When we see you guys, when we see the Wu Tang, we look at y', all, you know, Ghostly. Just came up here. I ain't gonna lie to you. Like Stocks Tony Tone, that's your brother. But, you know, he like a superhero. So when. Nah, when I see him, I just feel like, oh, my God. It's like fucking Ghost Face royalty. That's how I feel when I see him. I'm like, yo, this is it. Really. Ghost on the couch, you know? Same thing with you. Let's go. Old Dirty Bastard, right? Cause we don't talk about him enough in this show. Let's. How ill was Old Dirty Bastard, bro? The illest. The illest. Seen Old Dirty one time on 2 5th. We stopped at the Juice bar. He chugger lugged a whole bottle with Tiger Bone. I don't think nobody in the world. I don't even think he's supposed to do that. For one. Nori can't do that. Hell, no. Nori said that's the shit they used to make him like a. Like a bad drink. Like, when he drink Tiger Bone, he want to fight. It's distracted from a tiger's bone. All dirty to the head. Wow. Word. Yeah. Yeah, he gave that. Yeah, he had. That's how I knew he was human. Because if he would have did Nothing that day would have been, but he still took a fucking whole bottle with tiger to the head. I know you got to see him do all type of incredible, man. We go back so far, man. Where we used to go downtown. Downtown Brooklyn, Albie Square. And we used to be robbing and all that shit. We used to be up at A and S, you know what I mean? Just catching polo shirts and all that. He son, huh? Yeah. He was serious with it. Nah, he must have been crazy before rap, right? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. He was the. He was the guy you ain't really want to see out in them streets, like. But he was a good. No, he was a good nigga, though. You know what I mean? He was like a. More like a thief than a crook. See, it's a difference, you know what I mean? A crook is a crook. Got attitude all the time. He's just funny and like the steel. He'll take two or three candy bars out. Yeah, just to just. Pistol Pete still like that? Crystal Pete still. For no reason. Yeah, we going to 7 11. Come out, yo. God, you want to snick? I'm like, I do that sometimes, too. I ain't going to like little panties and a little right in front of them. Like, I just be like. Cause you're not paying attention. Like, yo, I just have to do it. Yo, listen. Listen to my pot. If I spend a certain amount, not like in Bertle, but in a gas station on one bow day, yeah, I gotta steal something. You see this? Yeah, but this is in the box. Three pack of bags, five waters in it. Now I gotta. Yeah, let me get like a carmax, yo. Come out the gas to save us. So they like, dog, you want snickers, you want a muffler? I just about to say that, man still got it. You know, I got a funny story with odb. I said it's very long, but I'll tell you, but one night I'm passing, I'm with my wife in the car. I think I had the Green Bench. And it was that Cheetah Club. And I was just driving by and everybody was outside, and I seen. Cause you guys had serious beef with all the bouncers in every club in New York City. Like, I mean, y' all was public enemy number one. Y' all was bin Laden out here, right? Cause y' all kept beating up the bouncers and all that, right? Like, I don't know what the fuck it was. But I'm driving by and it's like 20 bouncers. Cock Diesel dudes, you know? And they got like, ODB kind of hemmed up. And so I'm looking around the whole hip hop every. I don't want to talk about who super rappers was out there. And everybody was like minding their business. And it was just for a fact. ODB was going to get stretched out. Cause he arguing with them this, this, that. And they looking. They looking to beat them up. These guys kept beating them up, the bouncers. So they finally caught ODB by himself. He was wilding. So I told my wife, she was like, yo, that's not your business. I said, yo, I gotta pull. I can't. I can't actually see it and break out. Like, maybe. Thank God, if I ain't see it, I'm out. But I can't see it and not try. So I jump out the car and, you know, ODB was crazy. Rest in peace. So I'm trying to make sense to him. Like, yo, OD, yo, it's like 20, 30 dudes. They looking to pound you out. Like, you gotta chill. Like, yo, fuck them this. We the more Tank this, that. So I kind of like talk him off the cliff. And I'm telling them, you see all these rap niggas, they don't give a fuck. They gonna watch you get pound out. They all out here. Ain't nobody trying to help you, right? I almost had him then. He was like, you. No, no. I almost had him, right? And then he was like, you see that, Joe? The killer bees, they coming from the. I said, oh, my God. He was hallucinating that the killer bees was coming. Like the video, like triumph at this one. I knew. I said, yo, odb, I said. I told the bouncers, yo, ODB don't disrespect this and that. They were like, nah, Joe, this. I couldn't do nothing. Cause the man started hallucinating that the killer bees. You see that the killer bees are coming. He believed the video. Steve. Steve Rifkin in the house. Loud Records. Responsible for Wu Tang. Big blond, Mobb Deep. You know, I used to think I was the only one that loved Steve. I ain't gonna lie to you, right? So, you know, we all gave him a heart. He had the wildest guys in the world, right? So we go up to the office, everybody giving him a hard time. What happened? You want your flag? Give him the flags. What we throwing the flags for? Kiss? Give him the flag. No, I thought I was the only one that left the flag on the plane. No, I'm gonna tell you why. Because many times in My life, even in the drug game, I would find a connect that I really looked up to and be like, yo, I got you. You feed me. I'm gonna always be loyal to you. So I used to look at Steve, changed my life. You understand what I'm saying? He bought my mother's house. He made me move out the projects and bought a house. So you know how we know how generous Steve is. So I used to look at him and be like, damn, if Steve only knew I'm the most loyal to him. Like, I got him like nobody else. But I know he was. He knew I was. Everybody warned him I was real dangerous when he signed me. So everybody told him, yo, this guy, you gotta watch him this. So he probably had an extra antenna up for me. But I was really looking at him. Like, one day I'll prove to you I'm lawyer. You're gonna. And when we did the. What. What was it? The 30th anniversary of BET, remember? And everybody showed up, and every artist he ever had showed up free perform, loved each other, hugged each other, we had huddle ups. That's when I said to myself, man, you ain't the only one that loves Steve Rifkin. Like, everybody loved this man right here. So shout out to Steve, man, you changed all our lives, man. We love you, brother, and we'll continue to support you. But you two, I know y' all got a tour coming up. I know. I know that. And we're gonna support and we're coming, right? But I want to get more into, like, Prodigy. What was it like being next to Pete? How did you ever even meet? How did you meet? Hello? Yo, I'm have. I'm Prodigy. Yeah, you know, I met him through a mutual friend in high school and shit, you know what I mean? I got to the high school before him. High school art designer in Manhattan. You know what I mean? Then my junior year, he came in. You went the artist on Now L. And all that came out in high school, before high, I mean. No, no, no, no, no. Kind of, kind of like. Kind of like during high school, kind of like, all right. You know what I'm saying? So I met him, and then he came in, and I remember how I went to WBLS with Molly Ma. He was on the radio back then, and Trash brought me up there and shit. And I said, yeah, shout out to Trash. I seen this kid in there, and I kept looking at him. He looking at me. I'm like, damn, he was at bls. No, he wasn't. It Was this kid, he come to find out the nigga went to my school, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, oh, shit, you go to Home Design, blah, blah, blah, X, Y, and Z. Make a long story short, he knew Pete, you know what I'm saying? And that's how we all got together. It's like. You know what I mean? He knew Pete. My man Black, he from the Bronx, so that's how I started hanging out in the Bronx. But did he spit? Like, when you heard Prodigy for the first time, did he spit? Like, was he talking? No, he was not that Prodigy. That's why, like, if I wasn't. If I wasn't there, if I wasn't there to witness it myself, I would have thought somebody else wrote P rhymes, you know what I'm saying? Cause the N just switched from juvenile hell and then went into infamous mode, and I was there. Nobody didn't write it. And I was like, how the fuck he do that? I feel like he tricked me, you know what I'm saying? But you know what I'm saying, he ain't show you all the chambers. Yeah. He ain't show you all the moves, you know what I'm saying? He show you the Euro stat, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He just started going in. But the interesting part about it to me is this. You know, everybody's saying how great he is and all this, that and the third. When you up close on something, you really don't notice anything like that. You understand what I'm saying? Cause I. You know what I'm saying? I thought, you know what I'm saying? He was just like, okay, you good? He used to be spitting the rhymes in my ear in the studio and shit like that. And I'd be like, oh, shit, you know, that's cool. But now when I think about it and I listen back to that shit, I'm like, damn, this nigga was a beast. You know what I'm saying? Like, he was like an animal. He had his own. He wasn't like one. He had his own. He's a motherfu vocabulary. And he was like, nobody else. So it wasn't like he was trying to be somebody else. He had his own vocabulary. He had his own. You know, there's times I ride around, shout out my man Rich the Barber. I ride around with Rich, big fans of both of you guys. And we'll just play, like, your album, and just say every word for word and just. And then that says a lot about you. Right? Because you have to keep up with somebody that we call, you know, the Clips came up here and said he changed their life. He's also doing the production. We know that. You know, they gotta be the make this beat on the same project with P. Yeah, that's the triple the work. Yeah, I had a tough job. I was rapping next to Michael Jordan, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? And still had to cook in the kitchen, you know what I mean? And still lay a verse, you know, all of your shits was hard, though. And thank you, Murder Music. I don't know what you hit. So he gave you. Give me some. Oh, he gave you some of that. You switch like that from infamous to murder Music. Your shits went up a trampoline amount. Crazy. I'm like fucking half that. I ain't gonna leave me. We didn't. I'm getting. We have choices. So the game. So I. I come out Flo Jo. Everybody knows Fat Joe's in town. Enough respect for the boogie down and then a tape drop. Illmatic. Realizing the realism of life in actuality. Fuck with. At that point, you knew you couldn't come with Stomp. That's the idea. Like, you had to step your shit up or you're not going to be involved next year. You know what I'm saying? 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I had this, like, overwhelming sensation that I had to call her right then and I just hit call, said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick. I'm the CEO of One Tribe foundation. And I just wanted to call and let her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff Podcast season two takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a nonprofit fighting suicide in the the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join hosts Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat army veteran and he actually took his own life to suicide. One Tribe saved my life twice. There's a lot of love that flows through this place and it's sincere now. It's a personal mission. Don't have to go to any more funerals. You know, I got blown up on a react mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my hood. Welcome to season two of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We don't want to take shots because we having such a legendary interview right now. But like with the youth, I feel like unless I don't see what's going on, that's what they miss. You know what I'm saying? It's more like making music for a moment. Everybody want to catch get a bag. It ain't like that level of you Know, respect for the art of, like, what you gonna say? You know, we fucking Rakim Babies. KRS Babies. We fucking LL Cool J Babies. So we had no choice but to just admire what everybody was doing and bring what they bring to the table. You had to step your shit up. Like, I felt like I was really in school when I'm like, I discovered Big Pun, but Big Pun taught me. So I used to sit there with him, and he be disrespecting me. Like, yeah, for him being my little brother. He be like, you're limited. You give up easy. Go all the way. 16 means 16. You got 12 hot ones, but you want to give up on the last four. Like this N. I was at warden school with this guy, and it was like. And he was sharpening me up. So when he passed. So Pun was around you before you got on? No, no, no, no. I was around two albums before Pun. I met Pun the last day. I was handed in my second album. I put him on my album. As soon as I heard him, I was like, oh, no, you met him right? At that point. I called you. We did Firewater Me, you Be Real. And then something that's so crazy is, like, I always tell the story. I did a show with Wu Tang, and they got 500, and I got 500 differences. They had 13 dudes. So I didn't know. I really honestly didn't understand how the math was going to math calculate, right? And so. And then Ray and me become tight. Out of all Wu Tang A's, beyond the hottest guy in the fucking globe. And I could call him at any time, and he show up in 10 minutes to the studio. What's up, Joe? So I'm like, yo, this is my artist, Big Punt. And then he just jumped on the joint. And that was the first joint that we ever put out with Punt. Yeah. Cause you introduced me to him, you know, he was like. You know, I was coming up there to see you. Cause you said, yo, you wanted me to come through. And I remember that day clear. Cause my little brother, you know what I mean? He had graduated, and I had bought him the SC300, the SC400, you know, back then. And I told him, I said, yo. I said, yo, you gotta come to the Bronx. Cause you know. You know what I mean? I ain't know if he really know how to fully drive yet. So it's like, when he came. When he came, right? It's like all of us, like, when he walked through the door, we always, like. We like in here. And Shit, when he walked through, everybody was like, oh, he made it. He's big. He made it. But anyway, make a long story short, you said, yo, I wanted to introduce you to somebody. So I said, what's up? What you wanted to do? So I see this other Puerto Rican big nigga come out and shit. So he was like, yo, he rhymes. So you know. I'm like, yo. He's like, yo, let me spit for you. He said, yo, you can spit? Yeah, let me hit that. Nigga said Pun just said, boom, bow, boom, bing, bing, bong. I looked at Joe, I said, that's one of them. Yeah. He said, you got one? I said, that's one of them. Exactly. I remember that shit clear as day. And it's like, you was like, yo, you mind if he get on his firewater record? I was like, put him on. Say yo. Then, ever since then, I think that's when your loyalty level for me, it grew at an all time high. First video, we threw the suits on. Yeah, sky blue, Shitty, pull up. This man never let me down his whole life. Never let me down. I gotta salute him for that. That's another level of, you know, Jadakiss, I'm 20 years waiting on the verse, but it's okay. My business partner, but that ain't tr. Cuz we all got down on the. I'm with him. I gotta pick on this guy. Lifestyle by John Blaze. Yeah, there we go on John Blaze. We got that off. No, no, I ain't forget. Trust me. When we got that off. That's why I told him I threw a wise crack at him the other day because he was a baby. When we did John Blaze, he came through. He was like the youngest dude doing it, you know what I'm saying? And that John Blaze, that's when you had the rhyme in the studio, all type of shit. It wasn't like, send somebody a beat, the shit had come back. It was like you had to show up. That's what I was just about to ask you all on 36 chambers, you know, everybody had to be there for every session, right? Most of the time I say about at least like 90%. Cause you know, we was up in RZA's basement. You know, RZA had this little hole in the wall spot and it was like almost like a studio apartment. So when you come in, shit was real small and it was like a little stove, you know what I mean? He had a little chair there. Shit, like two chairs. Like, what the fuck we gonna do with two chairs? And you know we in the room, and it's like everybody's just sitting on the floor or somebody might be standing up and. Yeah, you know, a lot of times it was like, yo, it's like being on the fucking assembly line. Like, yo, now you come through and you throw something in the air. You say something. But at that time, it was like. Like going back to with Dirty. You know how he was so influential because he seen something in the group. He seen something when they started to formulate this. This thing called Wu Tang Clan. It was like, Dirty had a lot to do with August Straighten up, you know, that's why I always call him a general, too. You know, rza, of course, is a general, but, you know, that was the next general, you know, and he was very boisterous. Like, it's almost like you write a bar, you gotta come over there and get his approval, you know? And it's like he. Like a coach. Yeah, yeah, but he must. He motivating everybody out. Exactly. Exactly on that. And it's like. And it's like the beats. He was. He even knew how to make beats, so he was even in rhythm. See, he starts singing that shit on him. So they. Oh, Dirty, he really thought, nah. Yeah, they was orchestrating together some sauce in it. But, you know. But, you know, before the war and all that shit, it was the Jizza, Dirty and RZA running around, doing whatever they was doing. They was called the all and Together Now Crew. So they was already, you know, splashing, going, doing battles and all of that. So when they started to form this shit, it was almost like we knew we had three. Three bosses, you know? So, yeah, he might say something, but he don't have to say nothing. But he's saying something. That's the chemistry that they had. So we just had to follow what they. What they marching orders was. Yo, I have. Was there ever a group that almost happened that we never heard about? Like. Like, was it always just gonna be you and Prodigy, or was. Was you ever gonna team up, let's say, with Tragedy or this? Was there ever another group? Yeah, I definitely teamed up with a few cats from. From. From the Bridge. It just never panned out. Yeah, it didn't pan out. Anybody big we know about? Nah, nah. You wouldn't know their names, you know, from y'. All. Rapper Noy was my guy, man. That's my guy. Shout out to. No. Yes. My dog. Yo, the rapper. No, yo, then. Yo, I was. I was. You know, it's certain guys who cruise when they shit came on and they might have not been the main star, but, you know, it touched you like, it was like, yo, I used to see him and be like, yo, Rappinoid, what's up? Like, you know, he used to. They made him a star. They made. Yeah, he was a hidden. A hidden gem. My favorite. How did y' all meet Alchemist? Yeah, Al Noy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We met Alchemist through kind of like, you know, we used to go to LA when we first started going to la and we hooked up with Mugs with DJ Mugs. So we was chilling with Mugs or whatever, whatever. And, you know, Godfather and Minnie and Twin and all of them kind of like, you know, used to really befriend Muggs. And so Alc was down with Mugs. And then that's how they kind of met him, Alc first. So he used to be getting weed from him and shit, you know what I'm saying? Cause Al used to live in nyc, down in there in Soho. So he used to have a weed. Yeah, he had to plug for the fire. And he was making beats, you know what I'm saying? So the chatter was going around, you know what I'm saying? This. This kid, you know what I'm saying? Alchemist, he over there making beats. I said, let me see what the fuck this shit about, you know what I'm saying? So I went to Al crib and I was like, oh, shit, this white chocolate, you know what I'm saying? This nigga crazy. Heard the brother, he had that shit. He's one of them guys. Him and Preem where define New York sound hip hop, but they're not from new. It's weird when you find out he from la. You wouldn't even knew he was from la. Back in those days, never, ever, ever was Alchemist. Yeah, he wouldn't even know. I thought he was from my bed. See what I'm saying? Wow. So what's crazy is that, you know, and I'm also glad to see Primo from Houston. Right? Well, Primo. Yeah, I know that. Right. It's another one he would have never knew. He said his cousins used to bring him tapes, like Magic and Red Alert tapes, all the way out to Houston. And he would study the game and then he finally moved over here. But Alchemist is good to see. I feel like every now and then, some of us, we have a moment. He has a moment right now. And so the game is finally recognizing all his contributions to hip hop. And he's doing joints with Freddie Gibbs and now Erykah Badu, you know, Erykah Badu, straight royalty, you know what I'm saying? The most high Badu, she a different level of excellence. She won the best, though. Yeah, I know. She wanted super fans. She definitely is a super friends. She, she, she. Look, we all know she's different, and. But to see Alchemist work with her, and it feels like right now he's the go to guy. Absolutely. You want to get high, go see Alchemist right now. But he put in that work. He did. It wasn't overnight. No, he definitely put that work in. And then I didn't understand how you and Prodigy come up together. And you one of the greatest producers of all time. I didn't understand, like, how their relationship. They start making a lot of music together, like. Right. How did that happen? They just met up and started. I mean, it was natural. I mean, if you got a hanging around. Yeah. If you got another cat that's making tracks, you know what I'm saying? And he's becoming part of the family. It's like, I'm not stingy, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, let's get it. You know what I'm saying? That's a little bit workload off of me. You know what I'm saying? I can start writing some rhymes and shit. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I'm gonna tell you some crazy shit. We at your wedding, Steve was with us, and we going towards your wedding, and we was like in a van with rza. And so I asked rza. Cause RZA is stingy. He ain't want the Wu Tang with nobody else. So I said, yo, rza, man, how you let me. You know, how you let Ray be cool when he said, I'm gonna tell you the truth. I ain't really like it at first. Cause I'm Riz. I want it all Wu Tang, you know what I'm saying? But I knew you and him had a real connection. Y' all was brothers. And I was like, yeah, Gab, rock out with Fat Joe if you want. I was like, yo, I looked at Rich, I was like, thank God you let him rock with me. Cause Rizza definitely wasn't playing that type of shit, right. He definitely was training us like Doberman's Kiss. Yo, he's beating us to fucking beating us with washing machine hoses. Bong. Stay right here. Boom. But you know, he had a plan. You know he had a plan. And like you said, yeah, he was. He definitely had selfish ways. Because at that time, you gotta remember, nobody wasn't fucking with Staten island niggas. Oh, no. You know what I'm saying? So we had a vengeance, you know what I mean? It's like, yo, come on, we've been partying since we was 14 years old. Going to the rooftop, going here, going to the quarters, you know. You know, Queens, you know, Trivago Square. And, yo, Brooklyn announced Queens in the house, Bronx in the house. You be waiting for Staten island. And you don't hear it. It's like, now we want to fight. We came to party, but now we want to fight, you know? So that mentality always stayed with all of us, you know, like, yo, like, fuck all the motherboroughs. Like, y' all think something sweet over here, but not really knowing that a lot of niggas that lived in Staten island, too, was from Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Manhattan, that they migrated there. You understand what I'm saying? And it's still some real ass niggas that was from there anyway. But we had something to prove. And I think that was part of his. His. His mystique on how he wanted to approach the game. Like, yo, it's just our shit, you know what I mean? So at first we was all down with it because we seen the vision. But then as we got in the game, it started n started throwing flowers at us and, you know, showing us, you know, super love. It's like, yo, I'm a fan, too. I like that nigga, you know? So we come back, yo, you know what I mean? I could see how his energy would change. And I'm like. To me, it was like, I'm a grown man. I'm gonna go do what I want to do anyway, you know? But I still respect the code of what it is, because at the end of the day, we had a vision, you know? So that's the kind of the same shit that made their locks their locks. See what I'm saying? Going to parties. We turning on video Music box. We doing this. They shouting, everybody out. Ralph showed the clip with you on video Music Box. Don't for this, man. Did you listen? You know how much we turned on the radio. They shout out, long Island, Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, Mount Vernon, New Rochelle. Skip right over, right? And we right in the middle of it. We like, all right, we gonna show y'. All. Exactly. And I give you that. Know what I'm saying? And we had no. I had no. There's no Melly Mel, there's no Roxanne, no Nas. I'm coming outside seeing One Eye Wayne Makers like that man. We. It was none of that. Heavy D wasn't too far away. Mount Vernon. Mount Vernon. But we can't even though have showed us wild love and being them took. After we got with the riders, we was able to go to Ev's crib and me see him punching the punching bag. But before that, we got nothing going out punching bag. Ev was nice in boxing. That's what we. No fuck. Wait for Heav would be one to catch it. Fucking Flurry, all type of shit, you know, Heav was like, you know, if we gonna keep it stacked. This whole interview has been really, really 100. He was somebody I really, really looked up to my whole life growing up. And. And yeah, we was. I was super cool with Heavy D, but I never told him how much he influenced me. So even now I throw on outfits and I think I'm fly. And I look at some old pictures of Heavy. He wore that 20 years ago. I'd be like, damn, have had that on to me. Have made big like us. Big confidence for big niggas. Definitely. He made it. He made it a lane. We got. Look what I'm doing. Come on in. And so I actually became cool wherever he used to come to Miami, hang out with us and everything. But I never told him the truth. Like, I never said, yo have. You know, you're like my idol. Like, you really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really inspired me, you know. And so the first time I met Heav, we was at Tavern on the Green, and I'm using the bathroom and somebody walked in and. You got a flow, Joe, you gotta. When I turned around, you almost died. Like, if you don't know how much I used to look. I used to do the dance moves like Heavy, study the. The videos, everything. So when I'm. When I finally met him, because I've seen him many times, rooftop places for fall like a fan, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, Heavy D. But when I finally got to mix it up with him, I did, you know, Heavy D, he was a special guy, man. But you got Mary, you got dmx, came up together. Mary came before. I know, but I'm just saying, let's just somebody before your Yonker Jack over like a fat rat shout out to Finding Ray she live on our block but listen what I'm talking about. I didn't see her. When I came outside as a bully bag, it wasn't there. I'd be like, oh, fat Rap Fonda. It was none of that. It Was nothing tails in the crypt. It was. There was none of that. Y' all was in that gas station deep out there, huh? Just waiting for the gas before the gas station. There's nobody. I got chits. We ain't got nothing. But Mary was on before y', all, right? She put y' all on, right? She did. So she wasn't never in the hood, like. No, she was. What? She was just getting to the. You know what I mean? She was getting. She threw us the alley when she was still on the ladder. That's why she said, I don't want. What's the full one that was just out. But she was still getting, right? Like she said. She passed us the Puff with I don't want no finders fear. I don't want. Just make sure my little niggas is straight. So kind of like that. But me and P saw y' all coming. We saw y' all coming. Cause Nas used to whisper in Miami, go, yo, Puff got somebody for y', all, bro. She said, he said he got somebody for Ball Deep. I was like, who the he got for Baldi? And when they played that, I was like, oh, he got somebody from all deep. Damn. They had them young. Them young locks, voice hungry, young lots spitting fire flavor. I thought. I thought queensboots had the best rappers until we heard this. Y' all inspired, though. We was riding around, listening to them. Oh, we got mlb Bev, you know, I tell his. All that shit made us. We had to listen to all of that, right? One day, I'm hanging out with Ray. We go Jimmy's Cafe. We go to Harlem. I don't know if you remember. It was me, you, and Nas, actually. We hung out in Jimmy's Cafe early in the day. We ate some food. Then we went to Harlem. Seen some theories out there and all that. And then we wind up. We end up going to the tunnel that night, me, you, and Nas. But all day, we was listening to somebody's album. I don't know who it was. I don't know if it was Mike, Geronimo, something. But we. Us three was in the car listening to this album. All day had just came out, and we was just vibing to it. And then we went to the tunnel, and you and Nas was acting like y' all didn't know who the dude was, that we was listening to his music. So I was sitting there with y'. All, I was like, yo. So I talked to him. I said, yo, we've been listening to your album all day. Your shit fired B, your shit. And then y' all was like, yo, your shit is fire. This and that. I forget who it was, but Dean Martin. No, it wasn't Dean Martin. Nah, I think it was Mike Geronimo. I'm not sure somebody like that had a hot album. He was underground. He was, you know, it's Raekwon. It's Nas. So crazy, I don't even really remember. I might got a little baby dementia going on. No, no, no, you don't. But we had it. But we did it, though. That happened to me. Was it royal flush one of them. It was a royal flush of Mike Geronimo. One of us with a new, though, huh? Yeah, it was Queens. No, no, it was something like that. It was one of them. It was one of them. And we was just. We just like. Yo guys, like, you know, legendary. Listen. Everybody was like, yo, this was hot. Brodigy story I got when I'm making the first album. Kiss they game goodbye. We got the crib in Miami. Crazy, crazy Guest house. This. That, Maids. Oh, y' all was doing great. This one, you can blow the budgets. This the budgets. This way you can plan the blow to get Rifkin era. Steve Rifkin had me. I don't even want to tell y'. All. Do this album, okay? Go to Miami. I want to do this and that. Boom. They gave me the crazy crib in Miami for months. I'm writing the songs in the crib, and I'm going there laying three, five at a time. Same studio. Boom. I do. We there for a month or two. You get a phone call because we got the house phone in the crib. It's pee. I'm like, somebody fucking prank call in the house, man. Like, nah. What's up? Kiss the Prodigy me. Pete, what's up? Like, I just want to visit my mom's. She in Florida. Yeah, down the camera come by the crib. Me sending the address. Pete the bell ring these. Prodigy me. Oh, P. What up? Everybody coming out of their room. Yo, peace. Probably chilling now. I'm like, we got a chef and all that, so make sure he ate everything. We check. He like, I'm chilling with y'. All. You chilling? Yeah, I'm staying at night. These are priceless. Yeah. By the way, that day I hung out with you and Nas, this was, like, priceless. He was. I don't know if he was going. He was sick. He was over, you know, but he didn't. I couldn't let him smoke. So I was. We was making sure he was good. Him now I was smoking. All right, we gonna make sure he get a little wine. Divide him some wine, drank it some. Well, he like, yo, kiss, I don't want to smoke, but let me roll it. Me said, nah, I'm gonna be good. Just let me roll it to me. If you roll up a couple. We went to the club, we had crazy, one of them crazy shits. Then he stayed like a day or two. Then he bounced off. I'm like, yo, that was like some. I said, what was the chances? He called me, said he went to visit his miles, pulled up, stayed for two days. We partied, we didn't nap. When we make a song that holy. We did. But this time was. That was one of the illest shits ever. You get the flip back. Cause would have died to do them two days. We did them two days. Yeah, yeah. Nah, that shit was the best on earth. Huh? Nah, that was that shit, you know. Look, Mr. Ness, that's crazy. I'm gonna call him back after Mr. Ness owns is listening to us. Mr. Neck. Send me Instagram now. The whole phone is listening. I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. 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Listen, I I got a flag cuz you never believe me when I say but our family found the turkey chops. Now it's the turkey. Oh, you get another. Yo, yo, listen. Yo, challenge. That's fool. Put it together. Test move. Put it together. I've been telling everybody they got turkey chops. They like pork chops, but it's turkey. I ain't had it for years. So when I said it, everybody was like, yeah, yeah, I know it. Nobody could get it. Nobody that goes, remember, not only is he one of the best DJs, he's one of the best plugs for heavy. He found the turkey chops. He found it. Wow. Yo, yo, Caribbean soul. Where you out of? Caribbean soul? Mount Vernon. Money earning Mountain told them where we out of. Where we out of fruit right now. Yeah, I can't eat on the side so I could get on my face. Yo, that's that. I get sauce. Yo, but listen, we gotta show the camera the turkey chicken shots. I take. I want to enjoy it. He don't care. He would. You see what I'm saying? I. I got a little bit of etiquette. That's a grown man plates. That's a grown man. Grown man. They gave you that straight. Itis. Get a close up. You got the fries. You got the corn bread. They got that. They got the turkey chop with the bone. This the real, right? No, pause. This the real. Because I ain't gonna lie to you. A couple of you, I think, James. Caribbean soul, man. Mount Vernon, man. You know what it is. Pull up. Get all the way, right, James. I tell her they stop producing soul. You see my sister, my brother Jamesy in the back? You know what I mean? That's right. That's right. Pull up. They cater. They do all events. I too. Let me tell you something, y'. All. My bad. Sit down. Cause I gotta sit down and really relax and eat that, man. Yeah, that's a real Puerto Rican right there. That's a real, real Puerto Rican Spanish right there, boy. Yo, got two, three Diet Pepsis over here falling. That's not enough. Let me get 13 died. You just reminded me. I like that comedian back in the days. He was like, yo, I with the Puerto Ricans. They said they killed somebody in the third floor. They came to. Poppy. Poppy. That's not me. I don't know. Oh, my bad. The havoc is going in. No, that's yo mama. This hitting on another level. That's why. This good. I know. Yeah. No, this real Caribbean soul, baby. And it got paused. The bone. That's where she hit me with the. He just can't stop can't stop, Won't stop. You know, Ghost, on his last album, he got the skit set, the pause and all that. Supreme clientele, too. Yeah, but listen, I didn't. Y' all going on tour, did it. When does it start? Tour start in November. All right, so listen, when I. When I heard that, I'm like, yo, I thought we was going out. Rizza made the announcement, but then, no, y' all got new music coming out. So y' all gonna go get a bag before we go get the other bag? That's correct, yeah. Bag before the other. The bag before the other bag. We got the Emperor's Clothes. The name alone is just Emperor's New Clothes. Emperor's New Clothes. Pardon me. Anybody that knows Ray, you know, he's this ill, is you sit down for a meeting with him, and the meeting turns into three other meetings. Cause the way his mind works, he's just always thinking of how to create revenue for the crew and the fam and. You know what I mean, bring ideas to life and all that. So how. The Emperor's New Clothes on Mass Appeal in a raw of mean drops here in Clientele 2, the Slick Rick joint have. When you coming? October 10th. You're on mass appeal. 10th, yes. Part of that whole thing. This is a clip loaded of monstrous, iconic. Seven albums. Yeah. Know what I mean? So how did this even come about? It happened, like, real quick, right? Because I was already working on a project, and I was trying to figure out how I was gonna go about it, if I was gonna do it Indy, or I was gonna go pitch how you wanted to roll it. Yeah. But then I was talking to this dude that worked up in Mass Appeal, and he told me about what they was doing. So, you know, I'm like, wow. Legends has it. I said, yo, who's the dudes up there? So then they started, you know, mentioning who was there. I'm like, damn, those are my friends. Like, damn. I'm like. I said, it might be smart to be a part of that Juice Crew vibe. And really, we could help each other now. You know what I mean? Where it's like, you know, yo, I want you to win. We all gonna win. So the idea of it alone, I don't know, I was just looking at it on some Super Friends shit. So I ain't even call Nas, you know what I mean? Yo, I kept him out of it, you know, But I said, yo, the guy that I was talking to, you know what I mean? He was like, yo, I could call Nas's Partner. So I said, yo, if they could do this, that, this, that, that, say, yo, I'm down. But I said, but here's the catch. It gotta happen in 24 hours. You know what I'm saying? So it was like. Cause I already was getting ready bust a move. I had a move in place already. And it was like, I'm getting ready to go like this, but I'm telling them before I go like this. I'm like that. Like, yo, we could pop that off. We gonna pop off. I'm with it. So, boom. Next thing you know, they met my requirements on what I wanted. And then me and Nas got on the phone. But the crazy shit is that me and Nas, we always talk all the time anyway. Like, we. Hey, now, Nate, I might get a call from him, or we get a call. So we always talk, but we talk about life. We talk about kids and, you know what I mean? You know, his mom's. God bless his mother. His mom's name is Ann. My mom's name was Ann. His brother named Jabari, my son named Jabari. All this is just happening out of the blue. So we got, like, a real bond, and especially from back in the early 90s. So, you know, we platonically build him. But when this happened, it was like, yo, he was. You know, he hit me. He was like, yo, I heard, yo, welcome to the family. I'm like, yo, it's an honor to come over there and rock and roll with y'. All. You know what I mean? Cause I felt like that holster was a serious hoster, you know what I mean? And then on top of it, having my favorite, you know what I mean? Like, these are all my favorites. But Rick, you know, to me, that's like. That's like my big bro right there. You know what I'm saying? Like, we always love a ruler. Just style, storytelling, flow, bounce, British nigga, you know what I mean? Wallied up or, you know, it was just like, wow, they got a little clip over there. So it just happened. It was just one of them things where it was like, yo, I got a project, and I love what y' all doing. And one thing led to the next, and it was only popping after that. Now, how about you? That's gonna reach down, though. Yeah, it work. Cause y' all been connected. Connecting was connect, right, right, right. Now, you know, Esco, the brother, like, you know, I mean, he. I know him from preschool, so, you know. So you guys went to preschool. You guys went. Oh, he said he's younger than that. No, no, no, we really did. I know each other from the block. Wasn't in the same grade, was he? We. We probably. We wasn't in the same grade, but the same school. But after. After school you got to go to Priest. They calling you in the quarter. Like an after school thing until your parents get out of work. Yeah. So we was. We knew each other from there, but it was a no brainer for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to. I was trying to do the project, you know what I'm saying? The one last hurrah, you know what I'm saying, for Prodigy. And, you know, Nas gave me the lane real quick. So how hard is it after the fact to make it sound like a mob Deep? How hard was it? Yeah, nah, it wasn't hard at all, man. Like, you know, look, Pit Al. You know what I'm saying? ALC got the sounds, I got the sounds, we got the verses. It ain't gonna sound nothing but maul, you know what I'm saying? You know who did that really well too is Primo and Guru. That last album they threw out together, I felt like Guru was. He was almost spitting shit like he. Like he had FaceTime like, dude, no, no, I'm. Nah, that album right there did not sound outdated. The bars sounded like Guru was around the corner. You know, that was a really great album that they put together, but I cut you off. But that's how this Mom Deep album going to sound like. This is like when it come on, this shit is scary. Like, it feel like he here like, you know what I'm saying? There's certain little things that he's saying is like he got this like premonition thing going on, you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna give forward much time. Yeah, no doubt. Way. But, you know, it's like that. So, you know, just get ready for some. For some dope shit. You know when they say they got a saying, it's like, yo, that ain't age. Well, you know, lately I've been pick. I've been listening to a lot of Tupac, and the man sound like he down the block right now with the shit and the messages and everything he was saying. It's so relevant to what's going on today in America. Segue to what? Ray been doing interviews and promo for the new album saying they putting a lot of shit under our umbrella that don't even go under our umbrella. Like they crediting they calling people hip hop. I do good Music, but it ain't supposed to be overhead. And then that gets you the. The new viewers and the new customers and the new people that want to get into the culture get misconstrued because you looking at something that they saying is hip hop album of the year, and it shouldn't even be. It should be in a whole nother my love not to cut you kiss. You know, that had a lot to do with the title, because, see, it's a Danish folktale about a king. This is. It's called Emperor's New Clothes. You know what I mean? It's a cartoon type of folktale. But anyway, it's about a king, right? And the King, you know, he's a fly nigga. He love to get fly. This is what he do. Now, some scammers, which I call industry snakes or whatever the case may be, came to his spot and saying, yo, we got some gear for the King. So you know, his men, before he gets to the King, he got to his men and, you know, they was like, yo, what you got? He was like, yo, we got clothes that's going to fuck everything up for the district right here. Blah, blah, blah. So they like, word. So they, like, before they went to go to the King, they said, yo, let me see it. Let me try it on. You know what I'm saying? So when they went and seen it, now check it, y'. All, this is where it gets real. That smooth is where it really gets real. So when they went to go see this shit, niggas is like, this. This is it. So whatever's in their hand is nothing. It's nothing in your hand. Nothing? Nothing. No clothes, no nothing. This is the outfit. This right here is the shit. So now they go back and they. They start talking amongst each other and saying, well, damn, it ain't nothing in his hand, but we scared. We. We don't want to fuck around and miss the opportunity to present sign to the King that might be dope. So we gonna say, that is some. So they came back to the King, and then. Now they told him. And then when they came back, when the King came back and he's seen it now, you're looking at them, like, close here, man, but y' all saying, this is what it is, yo. This is what it is. This is what it is. So they sold him into something that wasn't real. So I don't want to go too deep into it, but that's how I feel about the game right now. You know what I mean? Anything that niggas say we supposed to just credit it. We supposed to just co sign it. Like, seriously, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't get me wrong. And back to what you were saying about all I was trying to do, not hating on the generation that's here today. My thing is just like all of us is man's man, niggas. So it's like if we don't feel that way, you can't sell me that, you know what I mean? And I just feel like a lot of times we get sold on shit because it's a, it's a vanity move for everybody. It's yo, I did it first or yo this or whatever, or putting a lot of shit to be shit that it ain't. It really ain't. Now, now, now, now, look at it like this. Like in rock music, you see how they, they separate shit. This is punk rock. This is hardcore metal. This is this, this is that. But it's all under the make it all work. It's all under the thing of rock music. So I just feel like, yo, we be piling shit all up in there and calling it this and calling it that when it really. So if I was to do something, not to cut you, if I was to do something that was outside my element, I might as well be outside with no clothes and ain't allowing, you know, whatever somebody else is dictating to be what it is when I know that that's not what it is. You know what happened, right? Remember they used to have these seminars in like D.C. and all that. How can I be down? Shit like that. And I never forget. It's really weird now that I can't say who because it really don't make no sense because it was just really early hate. I had to start saying who? No, I can't say who. It was like a bunch of living legends was on the stage. Something like this. And then people could ask some questions after they was told. Panel, panel. But some girl got up and said, yo, what do you think about the leaders in the new school? This is when them boys was on fire, right? Just another case of that. They were the first young group to have it on fuego. When they was just like, yo, who is they? Right? And one of the legends of all legends. And you know, it was like, yo, I don't understand that shit. That shit whack this and this and that. I'm a hot 17 years old, 18. I look because, you know, we worship these guys. And I was like, yo, they hating on the young dudes coming up. And so I always told myself never to do. I never hate on the young dudes. But some of the shit the young dudes be doing is out of control right now. No, no, I'm keep. Nah, I'm not going there. I'm not going there. And we gotta accept all type of weird shit going on. But look, not to cut you off, right? You gotta remember they ain't come from the shit we come from, right? So it's the same way how our parents, when they was hearing the music that we love, what the fuck is that? They came up under the O.J. s and yeah, you know what I mean. Destiny Mills and this and that or whatever. So I guess in a way, you know what I mean, it's normal for us to be like, yo, we can't really relate all the way. But my thing is just that now it's at an all time high of a lot of sucker shit going on. Oh, and real niggas to be real niggas ain't really being like, yo, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Nah, you know. Cause I look at our forefathers the same way. We sitting here and we talking about the Canes, the this, the Ricks, the KRS or that, you know, they taught, they taught us to be this way. This school is supposed to be this way, you know. Now it's turning into a different school, you know, and. And my thing is that. Do your thing. Shout out all the young niggas. Because one thing about me, I want you to get money, man. Because hip hop saved a lot of lives. My facts, you know what I mean? And we, and we turned the economy up into a whole different stratosphere. So get money, do what you do. Get money. But stop calling everything hip hop, man. You know what I'm saying? Because everything ain't hip hop. You know, you might be ill at what your. What your technique is, you know what I'm saying? But yo, that might not just be hip hop. That's not enough to be like, yo, all right, yo, you get the, the on your neck. I hate the most. You didn't earn the thing. One of, one of the, one of the things I hate the most is I'm a news junkie. I go to sleep with the news on, right? If I'm home, I'm watching the 10, 11 o' clock news. I'm a news junkie anywhere I go. Like, yes, last night I was in Toronto watching the Toronto news. And my va. I'M watching the va I want to see if they killing them dudes in the. Like, I'm watching, right? And so what's crazy is everybody who either gets killed or kills somebody like rap star. And they be like, junior X, Rallo, wallow this one. We don't know who these niggas is. These niggas don't even got a demo. Why everybody got to be hip hop? Who's killed or even killed. And what makes you like a rapper? Like, would you cut a demo? And all of a sudden the news is saying, rapper, rap star. This. Like, who are these guys? You understand? And it's like we always get the brunt of it. Because I watch it wherever is always a rap dude. And then you gotta google them. I think J. Cole said it best. One time he said, I ain't even nobody. I had to google him after they was saying on the news, hip hop Star. Like, you know. Cause just because you rap or you got a demo or you got a. This don't mean you really a rapper. And another thing I got a problem with is everybody's saying they in the industry. Like, what industry, bro? If you ain't got no fucking money and you playing Xbox in the couch 30 something years old, what industry? We all had our moments. We all had our learning, you know, we all had entourages. We all had what we don't want to call groupies. Groupies around us because we hot right now. This and that. Crazy as is. I go see a boogie. He's performing over here in Madison Square. Guard. He told me to come out with him. I come in his green room and there's a dude that used to be with me and Pun in our green room. Grown ass man. Hey, Boogie. A little dude up in there. Like he wanted the guys. I look at this dude, I couldn't believe this. This guy's a lifelong groupie, yo. He gotta be John Blaze. And then we. I walk in a boogie shit and the niggas up in there playing Xbox with them, acting like. I look at this dude. I can't believe he spent his whole life doing this in green rooms. And he's telling his family he's in the industry. He ain't in no industry. No, I want to know though, like, why you. You open up a Pandora's box. But you know what it is? The people we allow to be around us sometimes is like they feel engaged because they know. They know niggas. So when you feel like, you know, you feel like you. It's like you feel like, you got a job with me, you know, but you really don't do shit, you know what I mean? You just drinking up my shit and rolling. Smoking us, smoking our weed and eating the catering, you know, doing all of that. But after I get to it. Yeah, but they feel like they entitled to it. It's an entitlement thing, you know, it's an entitlement thing. And the more you go out, more you start thinking that you are in the industry, you know? Yeah. Cause this is the number. Yo, this right here is the number one game that makes think they got a job. Then she doing absolutely nothing. Can you say that again, brother? This is a profession we're in. If you let somebody hang around long enough, they go to their family, say they working, they in the industry, they have a job, and they doing. Absolutely. If you put the camera on them and follow them for the whole day. And I'm gonna try to talk him doing nothing but making play, taking a seat in the sprint. I'm trying to talk production, I'm trying to talk in Morse code up the whole environment. One day, man. Family. I'm working, I'm in the industry. One day I got this guy, this guy, right? I would say 20 something or something, and he making one of the most bogus claims and lawsuits in the world. And, you know, people, you know, you got a weird society now that feeding into that shit and pumping that, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got people who just. And the guy just on his Instagram, because I think he lost the lawsuit or something. He was like, yo, you know, in this industry, oh, my God, if I didn't want to break the fucking phone, this guy, who's just a weirdo suing somebody with the most bogus lawsuit. He's nobody. You understand what I'm saying? Like, absolutely no one. He didn't make a beat, didn't rap, not down with a crew. He just tried to sue a rapper with the most bogus shit you ever heard in his life. And the man get to talking, he's like, you know, in our industry, you know, And I'm like, oh, so now if you sue a rapper, you're in the industry. Crazy. This shit is. That's the industry we in. 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Listen to the new season of grasses. Come again as part of Michael Tura podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The tour starts when it kicks off. Yeah. What? November. November. Yeah, November 12th. Tickets. Order tickets. And no V. This is the starting of the tour. It should have been started, but it'd be only family and friends. Is getting family and friends. And I want to plug. I don't want to plug something else too. I just got a new show on shade 405. Yes, sir. Sunday starting October 21st. Crazy about time they got one of us in the building. Yeah. I need to do from you. You got it. You got it. This is what it is. Separate. This is what it is. This is why I try to tell him, right, Ray? Cause you know I shit number one. Here he goes. I know it's not y'. All. This ain't. That half came in and he was like, y', all, I made it. Y' all lit. Everybody's telling me this is it, right? Don't get it up. We number one, right? And yo, I fall on the sword, bro. I don't give a. I'm delusional. I don't give a fuck. I fall on the sword. Yo, what is crazy, what I'm saying to you is the reason why this works and the reason why I knew it would work is because he's gonna tell them. Huh? Why do you wanna. No, no, no. But this is just normal shit. This is why I'm trying to big him up for his show. There's a reason why we watch Charles Barkley, Shaquille o' Neal, Kenny Anderson. Cause they all champs. They all Kenny Smith. Kenny Smith, now Kenny Anderson. We got the same legs. Me and Kenny Smith. Left, right, we got the same legs. But what I'm saying to you is there's a reason they're valid. We want to hear him too short. Got a show on XM2. We want to hear the real legends. That bitch. So we come up in here and we talking hip hop. We love hip hop. We embrace in the culture. Q Temple never bothers. Nobody texts me all the time. Yo, I never knew nobody love hip hop like me. You guys are up there loving hip hop, preserving the culture. This is hip hop. This is like Caymus wine, bro. Special. And look, those you talking about, it's like they don't. They don't with the rules. They keep the rule book, right? You know what I mean? It's rules. It's supposed to be rules. You know what I mean? And it's like it's a society of new people that's twisting and bending this shit rules. But, you know, we let that money, you know, we, you know, millions is being made. And you know, you start to. You start to, like I said, vanity. That's vanity. That's when it. It start to take over your mind and your soul. And then next thing you know, before you doing it, you out there wearing Louis sandals with two. With two open toes on. You know what I mean? Because. Because they Louise and all this. So now you think, yo, you can get away with that just little shit. But like I said, at the end of the day, this ain't no assassination, you know. You know, situation with the younger generation. Because, hey, my thing is, if you wasn't there, I ain't expecting you to know it. You see what I'm saying? You wasn't there. Now get money, do what you do. But it gotta be somewhere where it gotta be some, you know, regulation, law and order rule book like, yo, hold up. Nah, stop calling that debt or stop saying this or stop saying that. Because you. If you really look at it like every. Every place got. They got they zone. Don't get me wrong. Like, yo, I was living in the South. They get busy. They got they. They got they sounds, you know what I mean? You go over here, you know, man, you know, west coast, they got they sound. We. Yo salute. You know what I mean, yo. Cause that's a. That's a part of hip hop as well, you know what I mean? The way they do, they dance. But we ain't trying to do what they do. And they shouldn't be trying to do what we do. If anything, we complimenting each other. But when you start doing weird and. And you know when it get really out of control, nobody ain't saying nothing. It's like, oh, I'm down. No, it's all the way outta control. I told him the other day, we was talking about. Not in no particular form, but we was talking about, look, I leave it at that, man. Cause these guys. Nah, nah. Because he's out of control. So right now, they got the big shit. Who's ratting? This one's ratting. This one's ratting. This one's ratting. My aunt, my cousin, everybody's ratting. Now you got one dude who's calling out the 48 laws of rat. Yo, I ratted the most. You guys didn't spend as much time as me in court. These are the rules. If you don't walk in by 11:59 on Monday, you're not a real. I never seen this in the history of hip hop music. And this is part of the shit you talking about? You talking about some other shit, too. I don't want to hurt no feelings, but it's like, I get it. We let a lot of shit slide, man. We let a lot of shit slide on our watch. That should have been reprimanded. And just as uncomfortable as it is, we should have spoke up and been like, yo, that ain't it, y'. All. Yo, I'm a journalist. Emperor's new clothes out right now. All platform. New Mobb Deep album coming in October. October 10th. The tour started November. November. No bones tickets. We got a track, pumped it up. Who got a track? Oh, only on Joe at the Turkey Chop. Only Joe and Jada. You know how serious this Turkey Chop is. This is up 52 fake out, right? No doubt. Don't worry, James. There's a bunch of f. That's right. What's up, man? We try to come in here with the hood on. Yo, right. Yo right. Come here, sis. Rap where he joining? That's how that be. That's just you on the couch. Don't let down the couch. Me and new Mob D right here. How you doing? Love you too, son. The new right there in your chain. Yes, yes, Please press play. What? Yes. Lay that. Turn it up right here. There you go, there you go, there you go. A difference, right? New Mark D, New Mob Deep. New York is just one crumb on the map. One crumb ain't a lot. You happy with that piece? I'm gonna need that blind and sand to find my words that's why my for blood money and power the fans turn me to a monster addicted to when they scream you had one hitting your life one second in fame One of you back up everybody pays all of you back up Mama starts praying it's the ring around the rolling pocket full of old men Ashes to ashes all my fallen soldiers Reminds me to bring my Bring it back, bring it back bring back, bring it back. Wow. New mom deep under dancer. New mom deep under dancers stupid sounds so refreshing wow word Now I can't wait One crumb on the map, one crumb in the lot you happy with that piece? I'm gonna need that pie to satisfy my thirst pacify my greed for blood money and power the fans turn me to a monster addicted to when they scream you have one hitting your life one second of fame One of you back up, everybody pays all of you back up or imma start spraying it's the ring around the rolling pocket full of old men ashes to ashes all my fallen soldiers Reminds me to bring my gun, bring my blade kills on contact just like Ray can't fly I'm in my aim I'm an MIA drinking wet willies this a dominance with us some black I'm in the UK 30 apples the only small deep against the world can't beat this small deep against the world you can't beat this I got machines too big one small deep against the world yeah. Shine baby, shine yeah. That's what I do you talk a good one but never follow through so slow down little younger streets to follow your hole built up a home oh, you lied bro you know the cold I ain't gotta tell you keep your service small that's a given. Gotta be about your paper, not just partying the big picture my was I'm that my name ring all over the place. I'm good dead man, you not dope live got your spot blown. You the reason why the cops know what the cops know. Drop down he is not low deep against the world right it's not all good ass go be friends with somebody else. It's small deep against the world that was fake. Sister Rat sat in for that exclusive. Jesus Christ. When the album come out October 10th. Oh, damn. I'mma have to sneak in the offices or something. Man, I gotta get my hands. Now that bothering me. That's bothering me right now. Stupid too. That's just so crazy. This is bothering me. I ain't got my hands on the whole. It's like you see an episode of Gangs of London or some. This shit is like, yo, it's like mob land. This sounds so refreshing. Sound making sound beautiful. It sounds. We got the Queen Rhapsody in the building. Came out of nowhere. Pulled up on the guards. Yo raps, yo raps, raps. Tell them, tell them, tell them, tell them something real quick. Tell them how me and you connected. Tell them where. Where it started. North Carolina. You came down to work with Knives. That was the first time I got to meet you in the flesh. You got talking to Mike. Oh, I got. Oh yeah, just pass that over. A little something. Yeah, we got bootleg mics, to be honest. Carolina Bright lady studio. And Ray came down, came to the studio. I've. I was always in the studio. Studio rat man, you was on already. Yeah, yeah. And tell you some records and you just show mad love. You got on the. What was the first joint we did? Coca, coconut something. Coconut oil or something like that. Something. Word. Yeah. And bless me and you've been in my corner ever since. Nah, of course, of course. I remember like when she was getting. Was on her rise, you know, and I was in North Carolina and you know, we was around ninth and you know, he was like, yo, I want you to. Same, same pun type of situation. You know where it was? Yo, Rhapsody Bar. Yo, I never heard of whatever. But he was like, yo, she get busy, you know what I mean? And I wound up doing a record with her down the line. And look, you know, she from the cloth, so we support her. Yeah, she from the chat. Whatever she do. Oh no, he did the same thing for me, you know what I'm saying? Ray one of them guys that, you know, he gonna support if he believe in you and he think you family, he think you worthy of it. You can't fake him. He's like, he gotta believe in you. And that's it. You say no more, he gonna pull up. But you, we protect you whether you know it or not. Cause you from the same cloth. So whenever you throw something out, you see me repost your shit, do whatever. It's like we, you know, people like you special. So we gotta make sure. Coming from where we come from, we gotta make sure we can help you win as much as we can. Because you know, you talking to shit. Everything we complaining about, you're not. You know what I'm saying? So it's like everything we like. Yo, the game fucked up the game. You not. So we got to support you at all costs. So it's. It's beautiful. In 9th wonder, you know, that guy is incredible. Shout out this night. Wow. 9th know everything he know about graffiti. He be hitting me up. Yo, that bubble letters that did, you know, he know about all that, man. But new mob deep in October, they going on tour. It's an honor. It's to Joe and Jada. We gotta get a segment for you to come and just talk your shit, you know, your own right now. You just came on. She's on the drive by. Yeah, she just came in for the exclusive list. That's. I mean, I had to come show respect like all the kings here. Like, I'm able to do what I do because of the doors that y' all open. I'm by every one of y'. All. Nah, but you get busy, though. Busy, busy. You know, you a writer and you. You can tell us in your bones, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I love the fact that you stay in your lane, you know? And when I think of artists, you know, you know, it's important to still understand that this is poetry, you know, and she's definitely really on it like that, you know, like, she take it serious and. And that's what I fell in love with it about you is that, yo, she really rhyme like. She rhyme and she rhyme like. And she do. She doing exactly what you said. She stay in the lane. She do what she love to do. I don't feel like, you know, I'm not against it, but I don't feel like every girl needs to be over sexualized and all that, you know what I'm saying? She wants Brahms and beats. That's it. She wants rhymes and beats. There's nothing. The bars and the songs is doing all the talking for her. She don't need to. I mean, she's very well spoken, but when you press play or you. She hits the button and you. Nothing else needed to be said. And, you know, he got daughters, too, so it's like, you know, I just want to tell you thank you for what you bring to the table because, you know, it gives us a little bit of peace knowing that it's conscious. You know what I mean? Artists out there that do what they do, but they doing it in a way where it's like, yo, we feel proud to be like, yo, knowledge. Very classic. You know what I mean? Knowledge is important, man. And you definitely, definitely a swordstress. Thank you, Swordstress. You know, and that ain't this. It's cracking. Kiss. God damn it. Make some noise for our guests. Let's go. Love, love. Thank you. Havin love. Thank you. Let's play that shit one more time. That Maldives. That Maldives legend. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. 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