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YFN Lucci
I always knew I was gonna be all right. He said I know God got me. I like said I don't know when but I know he got me and I couldn't just Let it scrape me out. I had to be strong for everybody out there.
Fat Joe
Yeah, yeah. What up, y'? All? This is Joe Crack the Dawn.
Jada Kiss
You know who it is. Your boy Jada.
Fat Joe
Pardon me.
Jada Kiss
Crack. This is the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we stay ten toes down to our word. With that today's guest. When you think of coming up, you know what I mean, from the bottom, making something out of nothing. When you think of Atlanta rap scene, you think of staying 10 toes down, being solid individual on the music scene, off the music scene. You think of a family man, you think of a good father. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our guest, YFN Lucci.
What's up, my brother?
YFN Lucci
What's going on? Y' all good?
Jada Kiss
First, I want to give you some.
Fat Joe
Another one.
Jada Kiss
Just had to sit for a minute. Stay solid. Never said nothing throughout the whole thing, did you? Got back out, Got back to the money just like it's supposed to go. Before we even get into any of that. Tell us about growing up in Summerhill.
YFN Lucci
What was it like, man, growing up in Summerhill? Let me see. Like in other hood, you know, you got the good and the bad. Got your hustlers, got your robbers, you got your killers. Shit, you got your ball players. And we all just trying to find a way out. Shit, we all trying to make it out. No, that shit hard, you know, but we made it through.
Jada Kiss
I always wonder why, because you got a different type of. Your voice is a. But it got something else with it. But now I see a pasta. Jamaican. So that's.
Fat Joe
You cheating.
Jada Kiss
You got the cheat code.
Yeah, you got the cheat code. I never knew that, man.
YFN Lucci
You cheating.
Jada Kiss
Who's some of your inspirations before you actually got your rap deal growing up? Yeah.
YFN Lucci
Got down nobody. Jay Wayne, of course, y'. All.
Jada Kiss
You don't gotta tell him that. Cause he's sitting there, he already gassed up.
YFN Lucci
Get him all, um. Well, jeezy, no doubt. Um, 50.
Jada Kiss
I mean, that's a pretty good goddamn list right there.
Fat Joe
Sound like my lineup, too. You know what I'm saying? You know, the first time I seen you was very, very, very, very, very, very beginning. And you were performing on top of a car outside of a club in Atlanta. When I seen that, I said, man, that man grind is different.
YFN Lucci
I'm sure.
Fat Joe
So we coming out the club, he performing on top of a car outside. You remember this, right?
YFN Lucci
A little bit. But I don't remember where we were.
Fat Joe
Yeah, and then it was like it was in Atlanta. We come out of the club, and you was performing on top of a car, and everybody was like, yo, that's why I found Lucci. And this. That's the first time I got to see you. And I said, damn, bro, this boy is hungry out here. He, you know, next thing you know, you blew up. You know, but that was the first time I heard of you. I seen you promoting like a motherfucker out there in the atl, man. Like you said, growing up, it's so hard to even think coming out of the hood like that you could even make it. You know what I mean? And the fact that, you know, you in the A, what gave you that motivation? Because, you know, we say the same shit here. You know, everybody who come say they wanted to be a ball player, they wanted to be a rapper, but you actually became a rapper.
YFN Lucci
Yeah, for sure.
Fat Joe
You know what I mean? So what was that big break? Or what was that thing that just said, like.
YFN Lucci
Like, just saying N from my. Like, not my hood, but from the A. Like, nigga, like trouble, Quan Rich, home of corn. Like, seeing all these boys started making it and like, damn, these nigga from where I'm from. So it like, shit, this shit ain't too far. You feel like, if they can do that shit, I can do that shit. My boy Johnny Cinco, he had just got a deal like, these mine. Like, Cinco, my real boy. And I watch him get a deal. I like, damn, I know I can do this. I just gotta keep grinding. Oh, yeah. You feel me? I kept grinding. I stayed down.
Fat Joe
It's crazy. That's what happened to me. You know, Lord Finesse, legendary rapper, he from my projects. And North Finesse used to sell the newspaper, right? So North Finesse would go by the newspaper in the store, come in the building and be like, paper. You pay a dollar instead of going to the store. He paid 50.
Jada Kiss
Cut it all.
Fat Joe
The point is, he kept telling me he gonna be a rapper. Now. One day, I turned on the radio, they play like, three or four of his songs, and I was like, that's it. I'm a rapper. Ness made it. I could make it. You know, sometimes we gotta see it to believe it. Yeah, but, you know, and so that's crazy. Atlanta is just filled with so much talent, so much success.
Jada Kiss
Our story like that is crazy because X was like, already, like, fucking Bruce Springsteen in. Yo, that's what you telling me.
Fat Joe
I had it.
Jada Kiss
Yeah, he was already, like, a star. But this is before anybody thought about getting a record deal. Then when he got with Rough Riders. And he came and got us. But we got a record deal before him that was crazy about the. We got signed, then he got signed, and then he went fucking crazy after that. But he was supposed to sign, and then we were supposed to sign because he came and got us, but we got the deal before him. That's. That's.
Fat Joe
That's never signed. DMX made a lot of money and was geniuses, but that shit was a real. Like, imagine DMX coming up and they go and all that. You like this. Had to draw this. The.
Jada Kiss
His best friend was a dog. He always had a dog. Went on tour with his. With 12 dogs on the tour. He had more dogs on his bus that he had a bus with him. And dogs on.
All of the bunks got dogs on.
Fat Joe
That's crazy.
Jada Kiss
And one in the big room with it.
Fat Joe
That's crazy. You home, man. You went through some, man. So and so, you know, I know all about it. You know what I'm saying about being the target in your own hood? It seemed like either they want to kill you the most in your own hood for sure, and the police want to take you down in your own hood, right? And so they don't want no Robin Hoods. They don't want nobody to make it up out the hood and be successful. I don't know why is that. And that ain't just your hood. It was the Bronx, it was Cleveland for Bone Thugs. It's the same when you got in la, Yon. Cause it's like we hate it the most where we from and where we represent. You've been through a serious journey, you know, making music, then getting locked up. Like just being locked up. People don't know how real that shit is. Being locked up, being famous. You gotta walk in that bitch famous, right? They put you in the jail famous. And niggas like, oh, shit, yo. And it's. They don't know that. That's a diff. That's a different.
Jada Kiss
Now you don't understand his power in there. YFN had their own side. They had to go over there. And they. Know what I'm saying. Shit, it was real in there. Giant and them went. He was at Fulton.
YFN Lucci
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Hell yeah, they went.
Jada Kiss
Amanda and them came to visit them.
Fat Joe
You was in there when Trump came through there?
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Fat Joe
The whole chair was like, yo, Trump in this?
YFN Lucci
Yeah, they sh. They shit everything down. But he was in and out, though.
Jada Kiss
I know. Yeah.
YFN Lucci
Yeah, he was in and out.
Fat Joe
He was in them n locking.
Jada Kiss
Everything came through.
Fat Joe
Trump came through, though.
Trump went to jail. Like them was in there.
Jada Kiss
Like, Trump was in the barbershop, man.
Fat Joe
You know, we. We have.
YFN Lucci
We have phones. And so we waiting to see the mug shot. Oh, yeah. When we see the monster, like, damn, that boy really was there downstairs.
Fat Joe
Trump came through, yo. Came through the jail, man, that crazy. I never forget when Lil Kim gave herself in this. I heard I wasn't dead, but I heard the whole jail was banging on the. You know, it's the. They said the whole. It was like a hurricane.
Like, the whole jail was like, oh, little Kim walking up in this. You know, you. You home. But you know that people don't know how hard is that? How'd you keep your.
YFN Lucci
Definitely. That definitely be hard. Because you gotta think coming from where a nigga just came from. Nigga living good condo, big house, driving whatever you wanna drive, eating whatever you wanna eat.
Fat Joe
You sit in that bunk and it says, Chico 147 was here and all that, you just like, yo, we was just. Every day we lit, like, come on, man. What that is, like, right there.
YFN Lucci
I ain't gonna lie. That shit. You gotta be strong. You feel me? Gotta be a strong nigga. Cause that shit will tear your ass down just sitting in that room all day. You know you ain't got shit. You ain't got shit in the room. Ain't no tv, ain't no nothing. Man, I was in my room by myself. I ain't had no settling, you feel me? So I gotta sit in the room by myself. I had to figure out a routine. So, shit, I started reading. I was working out at first, but.
Fat Joe
Then I was like, man, you stopped working out, though? Wife, we are giving the Jada Kiss plan.
Some niggas go to jail, work out all day, but I can't just eat.
YFN Lucci
Oreo workout by myself. Yeah, you need to be somebody to work out with to keep you going when you don't feel like it.
Fat Joe
That's a fact. For me, I felt stupid. I ain't even gonna lie to you. When I went up in the cell, it wasn't even. How about, it wasn't my fault, guys. Niggas almost threw me out of jail. We eating and n. Like, yeah, I'm in jail for robbing the bank, yo. I'm in jail for counting y'. All. I'm this. And I get up and I'm like, hey, guys, I'm really innocent. My n like, get the fuck outta here, bruh.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Fuck you, nigga.
Fat Joe
That nigga just going crazy. I'm like, out of here. I was just like. I realized I just got caught for all the times I got away. Yeah, that would it be, you know, that karma.
YFN Lucci
That's all it be.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying?
YFN Lucci
So that was an older told me one time, he was like, maybe he ain't do nothing in time, but said, you just. You just doing time for something. You been there.
Fat Joe
Oh, that's a fact. And so you just gotta take that and just, you know. But I felt a little stupid and shit. I was just like, damn, what the I'm doing in here, man? I've been working to get to where I'm at in this, and I'm never in this place. And then now I'm the same way.
YFN Lucci
I felt the same way. Cause, you know, I was looking at that shit like, man, all my life, I ain't never went to jail that long. Feel me? I think I was like, I was 30. I was turning. I just had turned 30. I'm like, man, I'm 30 years old. I'm in fucking jail. All this shit I got going on more than this jail.
Fat Joe
I was 40, okay? I've been lit since I'm 19. I've been on a couch at a club since I'm 19, popping bottles, thinking I'm 19. I go into thinking I'm 19. I'm thinking I'm 19 every day. Imagine you lit, you rich, you fly, you this, you on the couch, you think you 19, nigga, right? So my thing is, I'm on the couch thinking, it's all good. But when I go in there, they do a 40 and over league. So some young dude come up to me like, yo, G, what's up? Yo, you joining the 40 and over basket. I said was, fuck, nigga, disrespect. I wasn't in that sad. And I said, yo, you 40 years old and n know it. Why you ain't playing the league? Fuck the league. That was just a learning lesson for me.
Commercial Voice
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Fat Joe
That put me really, you know, you can't sit a nigga like me down. So that put me in perspective. I said, oh, shit, the window really closing, Joe. Like, you gotta do whatever you gotta do to secure the future because you 40 years old, nigga. Like, how many niggas? Nobody ever was 40 years old and hit a record out the park ever. I don't care who you talk about.
YFN Lucci
Right, right?
Fat Joe
So me, I'm thinking like, yo, I gotta get back out. I gotta make a hit. I gotta get my money, right? I gotta get businesses. I gotta get. But that Taught me right there was like, yo, I had to get serious. The window was closing, probably was closed.
Jada Kiss
You opened it back?
Fat Joe
Nah, I opened that shit back.
Got to the fucking bag, you know, I went. As soon as I came outta jail, I straight to the studio. It was the era of the young niggas. So they all had, like, yellow hair, purple hair, green hair. They looking at me like, this old nigga washed up. Fuck he doing in this studio, right? And so I was up in there every day just working. So you sat down. You praying to God for you to come home. Cause you was facing stupid time, correct?
YFN Lucci
200 years.
Fat Joe
Hundred years. One was your relationship with God.
Jada Kiss
It insane.
Fat Joe
Hold up, you in a cell facing 200 years. What was your relationship with God like?
YFN Lucci
When I first got in there, I used to talk to. Now one of my. One of my dog. Her name Robert. Fred. Robert. So I was just telling a. That don't know how to pray, bro. Like, that got to talk to God. Like, you talk to me, like, talk to him. So, you know, every night I used to talk. But I think this lady, she told me, like, when you pray, you gotta. You know, you ask for what you want, and then you let it go. So I pray that, you know, he let me out of my situation. He made sure I'm good. I only did that one time. And then every other night, I let that go. And every other night, I just. I thanked him. Like, I thanked him for being alive. I thanked him for being able to still provide for my family while I'm in hell. And when I wake up, I thank.
Fat Joe
Him for waking me up. People don't understand that Juels went to jail for two years. I'm gonna be honest with you. I ain't know how he was gonna pay his bills. You know what it's like.
Jada Kiss
You know what that man had in store?
Fat Joe
I don't know what he got. I know what I got. I know I did four months, and, nigga, I came out a cripple, nigga, like, on my knees, like, you paying these bills? These family, they don't know. They don't lock up and they spend, like, in jail. And you come home, and you come home, and your wife is like, yeah, I bought a new car. This like. I'm like, bitch, you don't know. We damn both niggas crazy. You talking about, like, this shit crazy, like. So I see the man go to jail for two years. I'm like, God damn. How do you pay the rent for two years of this? So you thank God that You was able to pay the bills while you was locked up. Fucking right. That wasn't no. No regular fucking shit, man.
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Fat Joe
But my thing is, because if I was facing 200 years, I would have a little more, you know? But Fat Joe, that's why they call me the greatest storyteller of all time. I would explain how they was knots on my knees from praying so much. On my knees, I would have been facing my shit was brick.
Jada Kiss
I would have been smaller than the Charger wire.
Fat Joe
I would have been.
Nah, I'm telling you the truth. I'd have been on my knees so hard, praying to God that legend legit. You know, you got to wake up every day thinking y' all might go for 200.
Jada Kiss
That's a fact.
YFN Lucci
See me, man, I. I don't know. I just. I always knew I was gonna be all right. I looked at it like, bro, I ain't no bad. I ain't no up. I ain't never did no up to nobody. He said, I know God got me. I. Like, I don't know when, but I know he got me. And I couldn't just let it scrape me out. I had to be strong for everybody out there. I used to talk to my mama every day. And just to hear her sad, hear the cracks in her voice, I know she crying. She acting like she ain't crying. So I had to be strong for everybody else. No, like, man, I'm good. You ain't got to worry about me. I'm be all right. You feel me? And I just had faith. I had a lot of faith.
Fat Joe
That's crazy.
YFN Lucci
Ain't no tell you like, man, you.
Fat Joe
Walked out of that.
YFN Lucci
I knew I was coming home.
Fat Joe
You walked out like, it was AI.
YFN Lucci
Huh?
Fat Joe
You walked out. This was AI. You was like, yo, this ain't I.
YFN Lucci
Like, I ain't gonna lie.
Fat Joe
I only did four months. But when they came and got me in the new bends and I seen the dashboard and all, I fel like, I was AI. I was like, what is this? This was crazy because it was. I had to get the halfway house. So it was either have sex or eat a steak.
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I ate the steak.
Fat Joe
I told my mother in law, y' all make the steak, man, I'm coming, cuz. You had to go straight to halfway. You couldn't make. They was so specific.
YFN Lucci
I probably would have had sex.
Fat Joe
It has to be back up in here. You got to go direct.
Jada Kiss
I might have.
YFN Lucci
I would ate that later.
Fat Joe
Y' all had it good if you had your own section and all That I know y' all had it good, I had it bad. So they were like, yo, this nigga coming in here, he got money, this, this, that. If we catch any of you, police take any money.
YFN Lucci
That's how they was doing me, I.
Fat Joe
Was in there bribing. I don't get high, bro. I was in there trying to bribe niggas. Yo, bring me a stank, nigga. My man will give you 6,000 across. Niggas would not give me a st. One cop told me he was mad cool. He said, yo, you disrespected me, B.
I just. I'm fat Joe, man. I need to eat some good shit. So they got this correction officer lady. She looked like throw mama off the train. The best, ugliest bitch in the world, right? Oh, lady, she come in, she violate me, my Joey. Oh, my Joey. I tell my girls about my Joey. This bitch so ugly, man. I'm looking at. Thank God I ain't have 10 years, right? I'm looking at him like, playing it off. One day I tell him, I said, miss such and such. He said, yeah, Joe, anything for you. I said, give me a. I didn't eat a steak no for sure.
YFN Lucci
Hey, look, them young. They used to always tell me. I be like, man, they like, look, bro, you gotta flirt with the officer, bro. They gonna give you whatever you want.
Fat Joe
I'm like, man, I can't flirt with this no way.
Jada Kiss
Crazy looking lady.
Fat Joe
Now, if you got 200 years, you got 100 something. You gonna flirt with any but young lady, but you gotta trust the process. But I was like, at least did.
Jada Kiss
She get you the state?
Fat Joe
Nah, she. You never got. That was the end of communication.
Jada Kiss
We never talked.
Fat Joe
That broke ass up. Cause I'm over here entertaining the she over here. Hey, my Joey. Oh, I was telling the girls about you and all this. I'm like looking at this, I'm like, yo, I said, listen, could you bring me a steak?
I can't do that, Joey. That was it. I fucking hugged. It Ain't no reason to even be nice.
YFN Lucci
Different. You get steak, you get Bennett hunter, you get whatever you want.
Fat Joe
Benny, honest, man.
YFN Lucci
I'm in that in business.
Fat Joe
I got a chef and all that. No, no, no, no. I had a chef and all that, but I had to do it my way.
YFN Lucci
Now what they do, they style up.
I was getting the real Benny.
Fat Joe
Yeah, that's disrespect for a like you doing there. You was doing shit disrespect for me.
Jada Kiss
But for me, I was happy when he fixed it with Doug because I fuck with both of y', all, so that's a part of the time. I'm glad that I wasn't from Atlanta, so I can just mind my fucking business.
YFN Lucci
And faith beyond it.
Fat Joe
Fix it.
Jada Kiss
Hey, I did a horrible job. Cause I was able to detect y'. All. Y' all work together. When y' all tried to do the social media shit, I said, these niggas got his horn again. And then y'.
YFN Lucci
All.
Jada Kiss
Y' all had work. Yeah. No, they couldn't. I. I knew that they worked together before the world knew.
Fat Joe
Let's. Let's get back to this. Is there a deep hate between serious drama. Let me just. I'm telling you, I'm a journalist, my nigga. If you a journalist, you would do that. If a journalist, the barbershops want to know. I'm trying to put him in real time, so it's a real hate. You thinking we killing him one day. He's thinking we killing you one day. And what was this epiphany? What said, yo, the man, Jill.
Jada Kiss
200 years.
Fat Joe
200 years, the man. Jeez, your brain, you know, he got too smart. He think of the answers for the people.
Jada Kiss
I'm usually telling him to let him talk. Let him talk.
Fat Joe
You thinking you're gonna kill him. He thinking he gonna kill you. You know, that is beautiful for the youth to see, but how did that come about where you just said, yo, this ain't about shit. Because I had a similar situation.
YFN Lucci
I'm so.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? I came home, I made peace with 50 cent, made peace with everybody. And the doors open, the floodgates open. Cause when niggas got to pick a side, so there's bags that they won't even let you get to, because they be like, yo, if I'm Fat Joe, got the rewinded shit, and I'm thinking of YFM, Lucci. I'm like, yo, I'm about to ask Lucci, 10 other niggas will come and be like, yo, these niggas won't fuck with you no more if you fuck with. I went through that. Fat Joe on sneaker deals, all type of shit, because I had beef with niggas. And them niggas was like, yo, he can't eat over here. He can't eat. So what was the process?
YFN Lucci
Just sitting in jail, bro, just thinking like, bro, is all this shit worth it? You know, got a kid. I'm standing here, I'm away from my kid.
Fat Joe
We.
YFN Lucci
We beefing with them. Ain't right there goddamn taking care of my kid. I ain't looking out for my kid while I'm in here. You feeling but a. I want you to keep up the bullshit, though. But when you get took away from your family, you realize like, yeah, bro, my family needs me. You feel me? My kid gotta grow up in this. I want them growing up in ob. My kids ain't no gangster. They ain't from the hood. You feel me? They cool. They ain't gonna just let nobody with them. But you know what I'm saying, Like, shit, bro, nigga can come together, make some money and change the narrative and help the youth look at this shit. Like, man, if they can do this shit, bro, we can do this shit. Because it ain't all about that. And now today, that's about money, not taking care of your family. And you need the money to take care of. Yeah, that's it.
Jada Kiss
Salute that. They need to push that more.
For all of the. They don't never highlight dumb segments or these type of interviews. Those are the shits that don't make it. But on Joe and Jada, you get that. You know what I mean? That's why we the fit.
Fat Joe
That's great. That's right. He got that shit today. He on that shit.
Jada Kiss
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Fat Joe
First of all, I want to know, how could you afford this entourage? About 100 niggas.
Jada Kiss
There he goes, exaggerated again. Ladies and gentlemen, there's seven individuals over there.
Fat Joe
17 right now.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Back in the day, it would have been 1700.
YFN Lucci
It would have been 17.
Fat Joe
It would have been 20, 37 right now. See this screen? We like.
YFN Lucci
It's my team. Everybody over here working right here. You feel me? We all working.
Fat Joe
You know, I did it. It's famous. I've talked about it before, but I'm also. I told him I think I invented the entourage. Wait, I'm telling you the truth. Don't flag if you want. I don't give a fuck. I'm telling you, you ask anybody, you know, Terror Squad, you see us, you know you was down. It's all good. But I'm being honest with you. I think I invented the entourage. I would walk around with 45 niggas, two tour buses, private plant, wherever you could think of 47 lobsters and steaks and bottles every day for years, right? And one day, God told me, yo, call all these niggas up. We was in Puerto Rico. Them niggas was buying bottles at the bar. You know, we had it like that. And then I stepped to them and I said, yo, guess what? I said, guess what? I'm broke. I said, that's it. I'm broke. I can't afford this no more. You know, shit is fucked up. Which wasn't even true. And out of the 45, only five of them said, yo, Joe, if you dead broke, I'm with you every day, my brother. I love you. The other 40 got the hell on. And it was the best thing that ever happened to me in my life, right? But the type of. They were saying to me, yo, we did this, yo, we did. I'm like, ain't made no song, ain't going no Tour with me neither. Well, what are these people talking about? And they start thinking you owe their money is your money.
YFN Lucci
They'd be entitled. They be feeling entitled.
Jada Kiss
Entitlement.
YFN Lucci
I feel like, you gotta do this.
Fat Joe
I worried when I see such a large entourage, because I know what happened to me, and I wish I would have did that 10 years before. I would have saved millions and millions and millions of dollars. We're fucking with all these people, you know? And what about you? Do you have, like, a survivor's guilt? Y' all grew up here. I got it.
YFN Lucci
Yeah. I just got a big heart when I first made it. You know, I love. I love Uncle Money from my hood, but we grew up together. If I fuck with you, I felt like, shit, I'm getting to see the world. I want to take y' all to see the world. Come on like, shit, we from Summerhill. Some niggas ain't never been to fucking Macon, Georgia. You feel me? So we got down. We going everywhere. We saying different shit. And you know, to some people, that shit open up your mind when you get to seeing different shit. But some people, you know, they don't get it.
Fat Joe
They just want to stick with that bullshit. That's why they say that everybody can't go. Shit, I'm in Dubai. First of all. If y' all don't know there's a lot of people here. You know, this is the type of place I read about in the book when I'm in the projects in the Bronx. I never think I'm going to no fucking Middle East. No Dubai. That's the last shit. You. You think you going to Egypt or some shit like this. So not only am I in Dubai, I'm in the royal palace where the kings and queens and the prince live.
Jada Kiss
What's your name over there?
Fat Joe
Ali Kishani. Salaam alaikum, everybody. Bismillah. My thing is, I got a different name over there. But my thing is, I'm walking in the palace, and the nigga I got with me, he got his pants under his ass. He got his ass. His in the royal. I look at this nigga, I said, man, I'm about to punch you in your face in front of these people. Like you. You a real disrespectful nigga. You know what I'm saying? Type of nigga. You sit there, station, lobby. Cause he all on chicken tenderloin. You know what I'm saying? And he's violating in that shit. I said, yo, everybody can't go. You want to show them you want to be like, yo, check this out.
YFN Lucci
Man, this is your life. I was in the club one time by myself. I usually go to the club, you know, deep all the time. I was in there by myself one time, and the girl, she walked up to me and she was like, you look better by yourself. But back then, I never got what she was saying. But it took me to go to jail, sit down, and I thought about that shit again. I'm like, damn, that what she meant. Cause everybody know, see that I'm gonna.
Fat Joe
Tell you where else you look better at by yourself when you go do business.
YFN Lucci
For sure.
Fat Joe
Because we be scaring niggas away. That's why all the weird niggas get the money. Them niggas who walk in with a skateboard and shit looking like nerd ass niggas, they walk up in there and they're friendly.
Jada Kiss
I love you, skateboard community.
Fat Joe
No disrespect, we love all you niggas. But the point is, I'm saying the point, I'm saying, you know, I used to literally go in meetings with the record label. Like, my nigga Pete came on for two murders. This is Johnny Box Box cut a hundred niggas face. This is one. Them niggas probably was like, this nigga out of here so fucking fat. Let's let his project flop so fast, we do not want to deal with him. We went next. The other come up in there with the skateboard and looking all weird with the tie with the thing that who you think they want to work with? Because they think we already dangerous.
Jada Kiss
Confrontation.
Fat Joe
Once we learn what the bag is, it is what it is. We about to turn up on them. You know what I'm saying? The most dangerous. Even in the drug game, the connects want to give the pussy niggas the work. They don't want to put this guy who's killing everybody in the world. They don't want to put no bricks in his hand because he gonna turn around, say, suck my dick, I ain't got to pay you. You I'm not. That's how I go. Same thing with business. So just a word, just a gem. When you walk in them offices where you trying to pull off that bag, you look better by yourself, I'm sure, because these niggas are scared to death. And they'll look and they'll be like, oh, no, we can't do this. You know what I'm saying? That's why I always respected the Birdman, because he always came out, he had tattoos on his Face all type of shit. I see him in all the meetings, you knew they was dealing with him because he had so much value to him. Because they would never deal with a guy like this.
YFN Lucci
So.
Fat Joe
But they, you know, it was respecting this and this and that. But he had the roster. He got Drake, Lil Wayne, this, that, the cash. So they had.
To deal with him. You understand what I'm saying? But he's sitting up in there. I see him in the meeting. I'm like, damn. They never thought they'd be giving this nigga a billion dollars, but he is what he is. He's the source of whatever the case may be. But at the end of the day, keep it clean. Yeah, you keep it clean.
Jada Kiss
What was it like recording your first song after you got out? How did I.
Fat Joe
You wasn't on Beat, was you? Zombie?
YFN Lucci
I was good. When I did my first song, it wanted to make it like, I'm trying to make the hardest, you know, you just wanted. I just wanted to hear my voice again.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
YFN Lucci
See how I sound once I did that, I'm like, oh, I still sound. The sound good. Went back the next day, started smoking shit.
Fat Joe
You thought your shit changed. Cause you know when you hear yourself.
YFN Lucci
In so long, you like, damn, I want to, you know.
Fat Joe
You know, I went in the studio the other day, first time in a year sound fair. I sound pretty good.
YFN Lucci
Yeah, I was impressed.
Fat Joe
I said, damn, for an old nigga, young old nigga. I said, damn, man, you still got it, man, you talking that shit. You good. Go. Like. I think this is the first time I. Check box. So this is the first time I went in the studio. And I was like, yo. I said, yo, I still got it. I ain't retired, but I ain't going to studio in a year. I just ain't going. And so when I went up in there, I was like, oh, I'm still like. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, people fall off when they get older.
Jada Kiss
I might die if I don't go to the studio for one whole year.
Fat Joe
Boston Rhymes. There's a lot of rappers that really.
Jada Kiss
In there, gotta go to the studio. That part of my life, even if I didn't go to the studio for a year, I'll probably be like, something might happen.
Fat Joe
This is what I'm trying to tell you. I went in the studio, I went.
And I think I knocked one out the park, too. I'm ain't gonna lie to you. I got that.
YFN Lucci
Oh, I got like.
Fat Joe
I know how to knock that out. The Park I went up in there. That was sounding like something I said, oh, not only I ain't going a year, I might have caught a motherfucker. Like, I'm talking about a boy. You like, yo, this shit crazy. Like you got one. I was like, y' all walked out of that bitch. I said, damn, Joe. Like you, you know, and so you. You got a big story to tell. You went through so much shit, just so relatable with so many people going in the studio. That might have been like. Cause you already was feeling that pain before you got locked up.
YFN Lucci
It made it easier that how I feel. Because I had a lot more shit to talk about.
Fat Joe
Yeah.
YFN Lucci
You feel me?
Fat Joe
So I was getting.
YFN Lucci
I was getting all them songs. Every song I did. I think I made my album like 30 days down to every song that I made first. Made that.
All them listen hard.
Fat Joe
Yeah. Cause that's that real pain. I'm saying, you talking about that like the pain where it's at. You know what I'm saying? You just gotta let them know what you're going through better than even. You know, when me and Kiss came up, it was more metaphors and bars and this and this and that. I just feel like the pain if you talk about reality shit.
YFN Lucci
So everybody can relate to that shit.
Fat Joe
Everybody can relate to it. And then, you know, now I'm rich, so I be rhyming about a lot of rich shits. A be like, yo, my ain't in the balency. Chill out, Joe. Like, you going. Cause I'm going hard. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking Malay and Kelly's distance like, yo, yo, Fat Joe fans want to hear how you kill a couple of how you this, this, that, that. They don't want to hear all that, Joe. That fancy.
You know what I'm saying? They don't want all that. But I see they want to hear.
YFN Lucci
That sometime, though, that you feel that's inspirational for me.
Fat Joe
They make a want to go get that and motivation.
YFN Lucci
I gotta go.
Fat Joe
That's how. That's how I look. Let me tell you something. I don't deal with jealousy. I don't deal with hate too. My biggest album ever was called Jealous One. Still envy. Because for me, I've always looked at people who do better than me as motivation, inspiration. It got to a point, well, at least social media wise, when niggas ain't happy for niggas no more, they like, yo, fuck that. I'm fucked up. I'm pop. What are you rubbing it in? Why you keep flexing on the gram and all that shit. And then you be sitting there, you be like, is it me or just. We just didn't have social media when we grew up to hear these guys. Cause you know when niggas talk a certain way on social media, they bums. You know, they're bums. These guys never got a. Got a bag in their life and they just mad at everybody. Cause they didn't find a way to get a bag. You know, that's. That's where I'll judge. Yeah, that's where I judge. These IG comments and all these comments, I'd be like, yo, these guys are bums. You know what I'm saying? You know, as long as you bless and you work hard for whatever you get. Don't mind how I do it. And me, I try to inspire and try to tell me some things you've done for like, your community, the youth.
YFN Lucci
Dude, you know, we do give backs. We do back to school drives, we do Easter drives, we do got Christmas drives, Thanksgiving. Goodbye, turkeys.
Fat Joe
And let me explain something to you, right? We always got critics, maybe even in our own communities that say, yo, hip hop never did shit for nobody. This and this and that. Well, how about the Easter drive? The turkey drive, the Christmas drive, the this. When I grew up, they didn't give me.
Jada Kiss
They drove right by.
Fat Joe
You know what the is? They didn't give me a lollipop. My. You know what I'm saying? They ain't give me a. Them ain't giving me a. You understand? They ain't give me a thing. I just want y' all to take the human. I want you and every barbershop, wherever, whoever's watching this, take this human aspect. Think about when you was growing up, did anybody ever come to your school or your community and give you shit? I'm talking about shit. One thing. A fucking ice spot. No. And so now you got an artist they always want to point the finger at, but yet you the first to. You know, you got so many artists sending airplanes full of food to Jamaica right now because of this shit. It's artists. You know, you got guys doing give back you every year. I watch y' all give turkeys and everything and Jim give and we give thousands and thousands of family. Thanksgiving's coming up. We feed. When I say thousands. And this year is going to be worse. They ain't got no snap, though.
Jada Kiss
Yeah, the line's going to be long.
Fat Joe
The line double now, right? Line double. And my line go around four blocks in Each store, I got three stores, my line goes like this. This shit gonna probably go through the whole, like, 10 blocks. So, you know, sometimes I get to the store, I don't know how we gonna give them the food. Cause we don't get. We give them the turkey, the rice, the yams, the soup, the beans. These niggas go with Winna, take all my. They leave, yo. They leave, winner take off. Every person feeds the family.
YFN Lucci
I'm old.
Fat Joe
When they say a little prayer for Joe Crack, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're cutting the turkey, yo. Thanks to the fat guy he fed us. You know what I'm saying? Protect him, God, you know what I'm saying? Because the prayers is serious Soup, everything. Kiss, kiss. You invited to my giveaway. So you can see I don't play every club for the soup. But we're still on the line. We're the bad guys. Yeah, we everything guys. We ain't shit. We don't give a fuck about nobody. We all about ourselves. We this and this and that. And that is not true. Now I even watch Shout out to Jay Z, Roc Nation for, you know, provide us this beautiful space. But Jay Z the other day, he raised $20 million for reform. Paying for lawyers, people's bails and all that. And I'm reading under the con comments. He a billionaire. That ain't this. Your father ain't buy you an underwear nigga. Your father, the man who birthed you, ain't give you a lollipop. Fuck you looking at? A man who raised $20 million to give back. And you like, yo, that ain't enough. This the fucking game. The streets got the game fucked up.
YFN Lucci
That's right.
Jada Kiss
It's the comments, man. Stay out of the comments.
YFN Lucci
Yeah, people just be writing shit to write shit.
Fat Joe
Yeah. No, it's incredible. But you got to know it's out there.
Jada Kiss
He seen every comment.
YFN Lucci
I ain't gonna lie, though. I read comments, too, but I don't take.
Jada Kiss
Not every.
Fat Joe
He's seen everything.
Jada Kiss
Anybody ever said.
Fat Joe
He catches or you do. I forget who I sat next to recently. Somebody super duper famous. I'm talking about like a white girl or something who was super famous and what she was doing. Reading the comments. I looked to the side. I'm like, huh? I'm telling you, I was at an event. You don't read the comments where somebody.
Jada Kiss
Super famous let him go into somebody.
Fat Joe
Some white girl that's super famous was sitting next to me. She was reading it, all of them.
Jada Kiss
No way. You could Fulfill the smoke of every comment.
Fat Joe
Oh, yeah.
YFN Lucci
See, I don't trip out the comment, though. I just want to say sometimes I.
Fat Joe
Said, you know, I gotta.
Jada Kiss
He gotta come back. I was it.
YFN Lucci
Oh, you gotta say I wasn't. Yeah.
Fat Joe
I don't give a. How rich you think I am, how much this. This thing. I don't care if you the he came home for 20 years and you think you got a new blog. I'll tell you, suck my dick quick. I don't give a fuck.
Jada Kiss
Excuse me, ladies. This is a family show. I wasn't performing at the welcome home concert.
That's different than going in the booth, going on.
YFN Lucci
Nah, that shit was different. You know, like, before I went to jail, I ain't never did State Farm by myself. Get what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
Yeah, that was a big deal to.
YFN Lucci
Come home and goddamn sell out State Farm. And it was wiser and Lucy and friends, but we didn't announce no friends. And it been sold out.
Fat Joe
And got love for you, man.
YFN Lucci
Hell yeah. And I feel like I got off. Cause I did like 20. Feel like 23 songs.
Fat Joe
Something.
YFN Lucci
The whole stadium, word for word. Every one of them. That's just feeling good.
Fat Joe
That's like.
Jada Kiss
There's no feel embedded in that for sure.
YFN Lucci
I ain't gonna lie.
Fat Joe
That shit felt dreamed about, right? Dream come true. Sold out stadium, and they saying every word. You was just fighting 200 years in jail and now you on the stadium. That shit must have been. You probably couldn't sleep the night before, right? Like, that's one of them shits.
YFN Lucci
I was getting up. I was ready for that shit. I was like, I can't wait.
Fat Joe
You was hoping somebody was there, right? That was that type of shit. I never forget. I had a show, my first show in the Bronx. You know, we tearing up the Bronx, man. We giving them hell at this time, you know. You know, we wasn't the most, like, in the Bronx, you know what I'm saying? Because we just. And I remember I'm waiting for my first show. Was that the fever? And then I. I'm waiting and waiting, and I sent my mans over there. He was like, yo, there's lines around the block. That's how I was like, yo, they with me. They coming. Holy went over there. That was like a dream come true. Because you thinking like, yo, is people even coming?
YFN Lucci
Like, my man, they. Every time we have something, I been like, man, you think this gonna be fat? He was like, hey, bro, get out my phone, bro, get out my phone.
Fat Joe
Yeah, because some. Well, now you know, you filled out the stadium. There's really no question.
YFN Lucci
See, I wasn't nervous about that because it said sold out. So you know this bitch or said sold out. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Fat Joe
Sold out.
YFN Lucci
Sold out. So I know they finna be in here. But us, son, that you don't know.
Fat Joe
You know the game. We in the game. Let me just school you. First wife. And Lucci, we've been around a lot longer than you. I'm sure you definitely could go from the sold out Atlanta to the Memphis, Tennessee. Three people in the front like.
Like, yo, everything, as long as you got paid. Hey, yo, Kiss. Is that the rule? You got paid, niggas gave you your shit. You like, yo, they promoted, right? That's what I've been telling myself my whole life. Yo, these ain't promoted, right, right. It be rampant. They don't know. Cause you get somebody, he a hustler, he want to invent that, he gonna be a promoter. He ain't promoted, right? If people knew that, it'd be ran. I've been in shows, bro. Let me explain something. You. I got one for you. This a. We lean back number one. Like, yo, listen, no disrespect. We lean back number one.
Jada Kiss
That means disrespect is coming.
Fat Joe
Lean back is number one. I fly into private. The dude comes to me with the. With the money, duffel bag. Too much money, right? He and Noah Versace and shit. This shit is like Fayetteville, North Carolina. This nigga Versace down, his girl Versace, everybody. Like, you know, they getting the money out there. You know, these doughboys, nicest hotel. These people treated us like kings. We show up, it might be two people.
When we walk through the back, they brought us through the back. It was for what, 10,000? It was a crystal, nigga. Like, he thought he was the biggest drug dealer allegedly. And he thought n was just showing up at his joint. So he either got enemies or he ain't really promoted, right? This Leanback's number one, right? At the time, like, we on fire. Two people in his family, money. And I'm performing. And I couldn't help it. I just started laughing those things. There's nothing I could do. Yo, they was gonna kill us. He gave the money, he ain't complained. I walked through the kitchen, they had like 10,000 bottles of Cristal. This nigga thought this was gonna be players ball. I go on stage, he got one. Dude, listen.
The kid might have been slow.
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The kid.
Jada Kiss
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Fat Joe
Oh, no, no, no. The kid Might have been slow. And he doing this.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
And I want to say, yeah.
I'm laughing so much. Any would probably be like, my man, you trying to play us? Was like, I'm waiting for this. Like, I just don't. I can't help it. I felt like. I said, big is crazy.
Jada Kiss
Maybe he booked it for that. That was doing that.
Fat Joe
Yo. And they were doing the Euro step. And I said, yo. And then at the end, this shit is over. I'm like, yo, my man, man, that N was like, fuck, he might have tore that whole town. Or he was like, fuck all these niggas. I go to their events, I blow the bag. Niggas don't come to my. I was like, woo.
YFN Lucci
Them folks don't give a damn.
Fat Joe
Like, I'm not playing to get the fuck outta here. Cause this guy, I don't blame him. He was tight, though. He was like, yo, he just knew it's lean back number one. He got Fat Joe in the town. He bought 10,000 bottles of Crisco. They Gucci down, nigga to the socks. Everybody's Versace down. Shit, the whole family had, like, a uniform. Nobody came.
Nobody came. He got that back end, I got the front end. He was the most honest nigga I ever dealt with you.
YFN Lucci
All the money.
Jada Kiss
He gave the money.
Fat Joe
Who does that? He came to the airport with the bread, like, yo, here you go, and best hotel in the world. And, man, these guys are such good people. But nobody showed up, huh?
Jada Kiss
They got eat.
Fat Joe
Next day was a new day. I showed up somewhere else. It was ran packed.
YFN Lucci
I think everybody been through that. I done had the same situation.
Fat Joe
We like it to be crowded, though.
Jada Kiss
We like, already legend. You gonna do a tour?
YFN Lucci
Yeah, we. We going on tour. Top of the year. Like 15, 20 cities.
Jada Kiss
No doubt. Yeah, make sure y' all get something great.
Fat Joe
I'll pack my shit out.
YFN Lucci
I don't need to.
Fat Joe
Yeah, we don't need none of that.
Jada Kiss
We need every show pack, every city, heavy show, Ram pack.
Fat Joe
And it's very important, Mike, because now, you know, you did in Atlanta, but now they want to see you do it. And then they see you sell them tickets. And then I open the bigger tour. You know what I'm saying? So that's how that shit go. They be like, oh, he moved tickets wherever. Now let's put him on. Him and Bison Teller or him, like, you know, the big shit. You know what I'm saying? That's how that shit go. You know, you enjoy your tour and all that. I'm too Old for tours, man. My knees don't work the same, you.
YFN Lucci
Know what I'm saying?
Fat Joe
I go and do one off, show here, show there. I ain't doing the whole fucking tour for nobody.
Jada Kiss
He got the legs for that.
Fat Joe
I ain't got the legs for that. You know what I'm saying?
YFN Lucci
What do they got to do?
Jada Kiss
I do.
YFN Lucci
What do they got the biggest bag in the world.
Fat Joe
You still ain't doing no, I'm going on tour. Biggest bag in the world. I'm gonna bring two. Mass therapist. I went up to Harvard yesterday. I was the number one school in the world. And there was so many black and brown people there. I couldn't believe that we in Harvard like that. But you know what I did? We drove up four hours. I went straight to the. I had like an hour to chill. I went to the nail salon, paid the lady just rubbed my feet for like an hour. And I was like. She was like, yeah, but are you sure? I said, listen, man, nobody here. It's gonna pay. You like me just run my feet. You hit a home run today. Don't worry about these. Ain't paying. Yo, they give you two dollars. You know, I'm like, yo, you good, mama. But she rubbed my feet. I went in that Harvey. I went in there, I was. I was light on the feet. You want some flat? What did I say? You crazy. They let me rub my feet.
Jada Kiss
Those flags just say you being crazy.
Fat Joe
Yeah, the biggest bag. I'm definitely taking two massage therapists. Shout out Simone. Yo, Simone. What's up, girl? I'll take my crew, y'. All. What's up, man? I'm taking my crew. We going. Not for sure, you know what I'm saying? But it got to be something out of control, you know, I'm too spoiled, too. Like. I'm spoiled. Like, I, like, fly. So, like, if I go, I want to be Four Seasons. Walled off a story. Some of these places you going to, it ain't even your fault.
Jada Kiss
They don't even got.
YFN Lucci
Yeah, yeah. They don't even.
Fat Joe
Have you ever been in La quinta in Motel 6. They ain't. You could do about it. I've been on all the people up to be like, yo, what the. We was just at the Waldorf in la. Yeah, well, today is La Quinta.
You're in Fairfield, California. They're selling grapes out here. Like you have no. You know what I'm saying? That's the wax shit about tour, man, that sometimes you got to go out there. It should be the wackiest shit ever.
YFN Lucci
Yeah yeah yeah, that one. You stay on the bus, stay on the bus.
Fat Joe
You stay on the bus. I love the bus stop.
Jada Kiss
I be we pull up to them shits. Four seasons, all that. They go in. I'd stay on the bus. I just go in my room, take a shower, spill the comfort and go back on the bus.
Fat Joe
God.
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Fat Joe
Yeah, I think that's something I've been thinking of because I like small pillows. And I don't care how expensive the hotel is, they always come with them big ass pillows. Pillows.
No, I've been really thinking about traveling with my own pillows.
Jada Kiss
Yeah.
Fat Joe
Come on, dog. Come on. I say it all the time. Never done it, but I do because they give me the hard pillow. I don't like.
YFN Lucci
You gonna fly with them, too.
Fat Joe
That's what I'm thinking about. I swear to God. Might be some old man, but I'm about to start bringing my pillows.
Two soft pillows. Like, right now in my house, I might have 20 soft pillows. You know what I'm saying?
Jada Kiss
I don't like that.
Fat Joe
Look, I go to the fanciest hotels. And we have a problem with that. We definitely with the pillow. No, no, with the fanciest old. We spend a lot of money, bro. Is why we gotta constantly work. And it's my whole crew. We all at the walled off. We all at the Four Seasons. We all at the same region. Yeah. I don't do one of them roll out.
YFN Lucci
They want like a dollar a night.
Jada Kiss
Foul. When you stay there and you send your man and them to the La.
Fat Joe
Quinta, I'm thinking about this.
YFN Lucci
That's.
Fat Joe
That's foul. Yeah, but for some reason, they got the hard pillows. They ain't got the soft pillows. So I really been thinking. I don't know.
YFN Lucci
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't never been in a hotel with no hard pillow.
Fat Joe
Yeah, I don't know which.
YFN Lucci
I got soft pillows.
Fat Joe
I like super soft. You know what I'm saying? In the pillow, I got the super soft pillows. Like, I like super soft pillows. Not them hard shits, man. Them shits. Like, but in any case, in the winter, you get what you get. You ever been in a hotel, you felt like fucking taking a shower with your Timbs on?
Jada Kiss
Hell, yeah. I've been to hotels. I know they was hustling upstairs. Somewhere in this hotel, somebody got bricks in one of these.
YFN Lucci
I ain't gonna lie, though. I've been being in jail, man. You know, we gotta take a shower with our shoes on. I mean, our, you know, slides four times. So, man, I couldn't wait to get in the shower, take a regular, get out the shoes.
Fat Joe
One of the biggest arguments I had was over the shower. And then nigga tried to. I said, yo, who the.
So it's a shot. It's three showers and it's 2,000. It's a hundred waiting for a shower and all that. Like, it's not like, what you think. It ain't at home. I'm going to take a shower. It's like, so I'm next to take the shower. They cut you Puerto Rican nigga try to come up like, yo, this is. I say, yo, papi, you gotta be out of your.
YFN Lucci
Your mind.
Fat Joe
You think you coming up the shower this. He looked at me. I said, I don't give a my. Like, you gotta be out of your mind. You think you jumping. You coming to this shower right now. But I'm in line for this. You crazy or something that never talked to me again. But it was like, y'. All. I don't know what he saying. I don't understand what they were trying to say.
YFN Lucci
That was they shower. He was trying to say.
Fat Joe
He looked like he was trying to walk in the shower and front of me.
Jada Kiss
Oh, he trying to cut you.
Fat Joe
That no matter where you at in life is a violation. So he tried to cut me. And I'm looking at him like, yo, my man, you gotta be. What you think is. You think I or something? Like, you think this shit's sweet, man, get the. In the back of the line. Y' all violated that nigga. But he was over the shower.
Jada Kiss
Yeah, I can't take.
Fat Joe
You know what I'm saying? It was. It was like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, in jail, you have arguments over the dumbest shit you ever seen in your life.
YFN Lucci
Man, I ain't gonna lie in jail. I realize you can't argue with nobody, man. Some young nigga might be talking. They trying to tell me something that I know. Like, bro, it can be some dumb shit. Cause y' all niggas, they dumb as hell. I ain't Gonna lie. They end up talking about. I asked them who the first black president. One of y' all niggas said, martin Luther King.
So he arguing with his friend. He like, man, I don't go down.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
What you talking about, nigga? You can't tell me Martin Luther King.
YFN Lucci
When the goddamn first president?
Fat Joe
So they like, hey, Luke, who the first black president?
YFN Lucci
I say, y' all tell me who it was.
Fat Joe
Sugar Ray. Lenny, leave that alone. Yo, these so dumb, man. Yo, let me tell you something. Thought Martin Luther King was the first black president. All right, let me explain something.
YFN Lucci
And he ready to fight you about it. Like, I know I'm right.
Fat Joe
Yo, we were standing on. You.
YFN Lucci
Can't tell me I'm wrong.
Fat Joe
Let me explain something to y'. All. I hate to be the burden of bad, bad thing. This is the problem with jail. Where do you think the dumbest and the worst niggas on earth go to jail? You are sitting here with the dumbest niggas. Worst, foulest niggas on earth. Shit could take off at any minute. I had this Mexican dude, he used to make me the nachos with the food. This, this, that. We playing spades. And I swear to God, I thought this was a nice guy. He just came out of nowhere. He said, oh, you trying to play me this? I swear to God, I wasn't trying to play him. He was a good guy. And so he sounded like he wanted to get busy. So I got to run back to myself. The problem is in jail, you got the slides on. I got to run to myself to throw the kicks on right quick so we could, you know, get it popping. So I go back to the. He, take him into the church there. I said, yo, what you want to do? Nah, you know, my bag that. Look, jail is a place where somebody's wife can leave them. You don't know what they dealing with. Their mother just died this, this, that. And them niggas could snap at you at any time. And if once again, I'm trying to explain to them the bid you make when you're famous. All right, I'm all just get. They put me in the building where get a hundred years in jail. I had no business being there. I should have been in the Martha Stewart spot.
They put me in the. Where you going on trial? YFN just got 200 years, nigga. You go on the elevator. Fat Joe's talking about Skip to my loon. My nigga. This, this. He floating through like this. He got four months. Nigga might want to stab Me in my neck. Just cause to add on to the 240. He in jail, I kill Fat Shark. I'm dead serious. I know what I'm dealing with. I'm in the elevator with. Nigga just got 89 years just to say he could just stab Fat Joe. Cause hey, fuck it, Fat Joe. I'm the nigga that stabbed Fat Joe. This, that is. That's what you dealing with. That.
YFN Lucci
Well, that's it.
Fat Joe
The nigga Game told me. But you know, la different. He said he went to a jail. He did like six months in jail and it's like seven floors. He said every second of the night when they locked you in the cell, every second it was a hundred different niggas. Yo, blood, we gonna kill you, nigga. Your blood. Fuck your mother n blood. You nigga. You ass nigga. He sat from seven floors, was screaming for more. Bitch ass nigga. When we like. He said, yo, Joe, you going to jail? I said, yeah, I'm going. He said, you're not gonna like it being famous. I said, yo, game, watch me. He said, yo, these niggas, they wouldn't let me sleep. They just kept telling me they gonna kill me from seven floors. And you know, jail's not a nice place. Guys like especially.
It's not a nice place. Especially you up in. You almost had anything in there or.
YFN Lucci
I got into it.
Fat Joe
Got into it over the dumbest shit.
YFN Lucci
I don't know. I got into it and he tried to stab me, but he stabbed me. A little cut, a little cut. We were fine and shit.
Fat Joe
You did that Taekwondo on that nigga, right? Pull out the shirt. Let's go. Now you gotta go, you gotta go. You know, that's the whole thing about jail is when you gotta go.
YFN Lucci
Yeah, when it's time, in time, whatever, to get right.
Fat Joe
Like 7ft tall. What could I say? So I don't get a flag meaning.
Jada Kiss
Mustard at this point, is any. You can say anything you want.
Fat Joe
What a diesel out is. He's a seven pack like that.
YFN Lucci
I'm putting the whole commissary for the whole prison on his ass, man. You think you're gonna play with me, man? I had a whole jail on your ass, man.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Commissary for the whole year.
YFN Lucci
Free commissary, man. Get his ass out of here.
Fat Joe
I never seen the. I don't know how they found him. I'm in jail. I never seen this guy. I don't know where he came from. The seven foot, they put him on me. I got into some beef with Some other who should have been able to beat my ass. He was cocked diesel 6 something. He's supposed to beat me up. Me and him could have fought. He had a good chance, right? So I told him, let's get into it. He played pussy. But he. When I came from the visit, it was a looking like. Like the guy from 300 the movie. The guy they was carrying around, he was that. Come on. I don't know where they found this nigga, right? Cause you stuck on the floor. There's nowhere to go. You should know everybody in there. So he's waiting for me. He's like, yo, Joe, we don't like what you talking to this that I said. But once I realized that the nigga was trying to like, come on some violent shit, I swear to God, like a movie. I looked over his shoulder. I said.
You talking violence to me was like, yeah, me and my. You need 99 niggas with you. You gotta be kidding me. If you think you stepping a fat Joe by yourself. Like, who the fuck you think you. You think your muscles. You know what's gonna. I started going crazy. I said, nigga, I need Pappy Mason. I need Boy George. If that Joe get beat up supreme McGriffin gotta. You niggas, you are not authorized. I know you think you cock diesel, but you are not. Man. Let me tell you something.
You think you brolic. Like do you know, start going crazy. But the point is, do we have these new songs?
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Fat Joe
I mean, so you said the try to stab you and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This funny. This funny it. I'm telling you.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
He.
Fat Joe
He know he watching this. He know he. Is.
He watching this. He was fronting. He was fronting. He looked this small. By the time I screamed on him and he disappeared, he was like, yo, that didn't went from all the way down to like a. That was like, oh my God, this is crazy. But yo, I don't know. It is what it is. We gonna hear some new music already.
Jada Kiss
Legend. All platforms on don't stream it.
Fat Joe
You know, this is the minute we play some. That is up, wife. I'm just being honest.
Jada Kiss
Oh, we about to boast the numbers right now, baby.
Fat Joe
Don't yeah, your numbers is.
This up. They going to tune in real quick.
YFN Lucci
Already.
Fat Joe
Legend out now. Go get that.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Still screaming long little bit. Look, I remember days he would say I be this big on the. Like, I can't piss even if I.
YFN Lucci
Get in your ass, man, I'm in the.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Can't be playing on the Internet look say the small talk for your dogs ain't Internet. Hey, I'm a dog dog when they buy the check, hey, if I fall then you better catch after our dog. I tell her next. Okay, little penthouse on game all of us in there if you let me hit once you always gonna spin back. She told her friend now they all in my business on her friend now they all in their fly told me not to not down so I ain't listen I up cause everything come with consequences.
You gotta spend it you better thank God I went to prison got your main blood begging me to put the tip in I was just playing in the mouth we ain't kissing I just put 200 in my mouth ain't no French kid And I went picasso in the house on some real and they keep telling me that I'm different. Mom knew I was a problem since an infant. I just spent over a million in an instant. I just came home like I never lost a penny. Dominicans, black long hair Indians we gonna get that money and leave it out 20 roll truck back to found out trim.
That's a billion I can't take advice from no D. You're some billion you ain't never scratched I don't need your opinion you don't know the feeling when your pawn steady is you know I fought with bro because he ain't with precision we ain't aiming that man we aiming for a trillion cardiac frame solitaire do your big one all road go scaly plane did a big one like I'm Boston George one never talk to them boys.
YFN Lucci
That ain't enough I just came home.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
You still playing catch up the pain on the catch up you got to stop lying to the whole word to TR and when you don't tell the truth it make it hard to open up when the w bully prove the door hard to open up when the car is a coup you got to all set on when you pray about it make it all better when you pray about it make it all better we were up and ain't nobody help us we were up and ain't nobody help us.
YFN Lucci
Yeah.
Jada Kiss
Nah.
Fat Joe
Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. We was up ain't nobody helping help us nobody help us out of here.
Jada Kiss
That was that. Now we gonna hit other look what I.
Fat Joe
Damn, Kai, you going crazy, huh?
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Hey, look what I did. I took every loss and then I turned that to a profit. I can't reach my goals with everybody in my pocket I can't trust the soul but I know Pain but I.
YFN Lucci
Can'T block it I can't block it.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Hey look what I did hey they keep hitting me like big bro let.
YFN Lucci
Me locked in but we ain't locked in.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
We ain't locked in, yeah hey Lord I did I went from a chrome into a million with no college I turned my Nissan into a Benz with no mileage Know my phone ringing but I ain't picking up on nobody but I just talk to Got it Ross say you a legend, you got arrest for nobody 20 roll trucks back to back they hide, you pop it, this cat scrap it this came from wi fi I was in my cell with 20,000 on my eyelid we the trend to top it everything a profit my new ain't toxic Grew up without an option popping way before the insta ho on my fe that was just a hiccup joke Sipping out a big cup I was eating good even though I should have been doing a thousand sit ups that you pull that's on the hood that's how little bro got hit who with?
YFN Lucci
Us. Think about it yeah.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Yeah hey look what I did I took every loss and then I turned that to a profit I can't reach my go never back in my pocket I can't trust the soul but I know pain but.
YFN Lucci
I can't block it I can't block it hey look what I did hey.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
They keep hear me like big bro let lock in Wayne ain't locked in.
YFN Lucci
We ain't locked in.
YFN Lucci (Rapping Segment)
Hey look what I did.
YFN Lucci
Yeah I can't reach my goals with everybody in my pocket.
I.
Jada Kiss
Can'T reach my phone right.
Already Legend is out there right now. Tour top of the year. He's coming to your city. We not we selling out everything on. We ain't even talking about nothing else.
Fat Joe
But selling out for sure.
Jada Kiss
Sold out arenas, sold out theaters, sold out venues already. Legend, you know what I mean? This ain't that, that ain't this. It's cracking Kiss make some noise for my brother YFN Lucha hey town.
Fat Joe
Hey town.
Jada Kiss
Appreciate you for coming through.
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Date: December 10, 2025
Host: Fat Joe and Jadakiss
Guest: YFN Lucci
Podcast Theme: Deep-dive conversation with Atlanta rapper YFN Lucci about his upbringing, prison experience, squashing of his beef with Young Thug, comeback, and community impact, all blended with nostalgia and raw humor from Fat Joe and Jadakiss.
This episode of "The Herd" spins off into Fat Joe and Jadakiss’ “Joe and Jada Show,” for a vibrant, real, and insightful sit-down with YFN Lucci. The Atlanta star opens up about life on the come-up, hard lessons learned behind bars, reconciliation in rap beefs, the reality of fame, and the journey to his new album, Already Legend. The hosts skillfully blend hard-hitting questions with playful storytelling, turning the spotlight on survival, growth, and the power of second chances.
YFN Lucci reflects on his neighborhood:
"Like in other hood, you got the good and the bad. Got your hustlers, got your robbers, you got your killers. Shit, you got your ball players. And we all just trying to find a way out." (04:16)
On inspiration and musical roots:
Lucci shouts out major influences: "Got down nobody. Jay Wayne, of course, y'll. All... Well, Jeezy, no doubt. Um, 50." (05:07)
Jadakiss jokes about YFN's unique vocal style coming from his Jamaican roots—a "cheat code." (04:52)
On being a celebrity behind bars:
Fat Joe: "People don't know how real that shit is. Being locked up, being famous … They put you in the jail famous." (09:17)
YFN details solitary resilience:
“I was in my room by myself. I had to figure out a routine. So, shit, I started reading. I was working out at first…” (12:01)
“You gotta be strong. You feel me? Gotta be a strong nigga. Cause that shit will tear your ass down just sitting in that room all day.” (12:01)
Surviving mentally & spiritually:
"I always knew I was gonna be all right. I know God got me. I don’t know when, but I know he got me... I had to be strong for everybody out there." (18:21)
On faith in God when facing 200 years: “Pray that, you know, he let me out of my situation... I only did that one time. And every other night, I just... thanked him.” (16:07)
Comeback Motivation:
Fat Joe on using the jail experience for vision: “That put me really, you know, you can't sit a nigga like me down. So that put me in perspective. I said, oh, shit, the window really closing, Joe.” (14:47)
On first post-release music:
"I just wanted to hear my voice again…. Once I did that, I'm like, oh, I still sound good. Went back the next day, started smoking shit." (37:47)
Performing at State Farm after release:
“Come home and goddamn sell out State Farm… we did like 23 songs, the whole stadium, word for word. Every one of them. That just feelin' good.” (47:12)
The turning point:
On reconciliation, Lucci says: “Just sitting in jail, bro, just thinking like, bro, is all this shit worth it? … you realize like, yeah, bro, my family needs me… nigga can come together, make some money and change the narrative and help the youth look at this shit. Like, man, if they can do this shit, bro, we can do this shit…” (24:19)
Jadakiss on seeing the truce's value:
"For me, I was happy when he fixed it with Doug because I fuck with both of y' all. I'm glad that I wasn't from Atlanta, so I can just mind my fucking business." (22:19)
Entourage and "survivor’s guilt":
Fat Joe: “I think I invented the entourage…I would walk around with 45 niggas, two tour buses…One day, God told me, yo, call all these niggas up... I said, that's it. I'm broke. I can't afford this no more. You know… Out of the 45, only five of them said, yo, Joe, if you dead broke, I'm with you every day, my brother.” (31:17)
Lucci on giving back to his people:
"I just got a big heart…If I fuck with you, I felt like, shit, I'm getting to see the world. I want to take y' all to see the world. Come on, like, shit, we from Summerhill…But some people, you know, they don't get it." (33:06)
Business lessons: "When you walk in them offices where you trying to pull off that bag, you look better by yourself, I'm sure, because these niggas are scared to death." (35:20)
Crazy jail stories (see also section of Memorable Moments):
Confrontation realities:
Lucci: “I got into it and he tried to stab me, but he stabbed me. A little cut, a little cut. We were fine and shit.” (67:33)
Fat Joe: “They put me in the building where get a hundred years in jail … Nigga might want to stab Me in my neck just cause to add on to the 240.” (65:51)
Lucci on community service:
"Dude, you know, we do give backs. We do back to school drives, we do Easter drives, we do... Christmas drives, Thanksgiving. Goodbye turkeys." (42:15)
Fat Joe’s reality check:
"When I grew up, they didn't give me a lollipop. My...You know...Now you got artists they always want to point the finger at...but yet you the first to...give turkeys and everything..." (42:45)
Faith under fire:
"I always knew I was gonna be all right. He said I know God got me. I don’t know when but I know he got me and I couldn’t just let it scrape me out. I had to be strong for everybody out there."
— YFN Lucci (18:21)
On prison’s impact:
“You got to be a strong nigga. Cause that shit will tear your ass down just sitting in that room all day.”
— YFN Lucci (12:01)
Rap beef revelations:
“When you get took away from your family, you realize like, yeah, bro, my family needs me … nigga can come together, make some money and change the narrative and help the youth look at this shit. Like, man, if they can do this shit, bro, we can do this shit…”
— YFN Lucci (24:19)
Fat Joe on entourage reality:
“Out of the 45, only five of them said, yo, Joe, if you dead broke, I’m with you every day, my brother ... The other 40 got the hell on. And it was the best thing that ever happened to me in my life.” (31:17)
Words on giving back:
“When I grew up, they didn’t give me a lollipop ... Now you got artists they always want to point the finger at ... but yet you the first to ... give turkeys and everything…”
— Fat Joe (42:45)
On comeback concerts:
“Come home and goddamn sell out State Farm...we did like 23 songs, the whole stadium, word for word...That's just feelin' good.”
— YFN Lucci (47:12)
Trump’s Fulton County stint:
“You was in there when Trump came through there?”
— Fat Joe (10:37)
Lucci: “Yeah, they shit everything down. But he was in and out, though.” (10:43)
Jail arguments over ridiculousness:
“I asked them who the first black president. One of y' all niggas said, Martin Luther King.”
— YFN Lucci (63:53)
On sketchy promoters:
Fat Joe tells a hilarious story about flying in for a #1 hit, private jet, duffel bag money, and performing for virtually nobody because of poor promotion. (49:47–52:49)
Hotel and tour realities:
“You ever been in La Quinta, Motel 6. They ain’t...You could do about it. I’ve been on all the people up to be like, yo, what the...We was just at the Waldorf in LA. Yeah, well, today is La Quinta.”
— Fat Joe (55:36)
On returning to rap after jail:
“I just wanted to hear my voice again....Once I did that, I’m like, oh, I still sound good.”
— YFN Lucci (37:47)
This episode is a raw, entertaining, and inspiring listen, blending real talk about climbing out of tough circumstances with sharp, lived-in wisdom from three hip-hop veterans. Lucci’s story is one of hard-won maturity, proving that even amid setbacks, it’s possible to grow, make amends, and keep building for the future. Listeners walk away with laughter, motivation, and a renewed appreciation for artistry forged through pain and perseverance.
"Already Legend" out now; tour coming top of the year.
“Every show legendary, every show iconic.” — Jada Kiss (03:14)