Max Holloway RESPONDS to Charles Oliveira CALLOUT, Conor McGregor, CRAZY DC story

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Max Holloway RESPONDS to Charles Oliveira CALLOUT, Conor McGregor, CRAZY DC story
Release Date: March 6, 2026

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Overview

This lively episode centers on Max Holloway’s upcoming title defense against Charles Oliveira and dives into Holloway’s mindset, career legacy, playful banter with co-host Daniel Cormier (DC), and potential blockbuster matchups—including rekindling a longstanding Conor McGregor rivalry. The conversation radiates the fighters’ camaraderie, candidness, and competitive spirits, while also touching on serious strategic insights about the fight game.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Banter, Friendship, and Backgrounds (00:38–02:32)

• Holloway and DC’s Chemistry: From the start, the episode oozes relaxed energy, with the pair riffing on their middle names, diets, and UFC travels. Holloway jokes about eating alligator in New Orleans and teases DC about his “white” eating habits.
  • Funny Middle Name Anecdote:
    • “Bro, you're so white, bro. Max, you're so white, bro.”
      —Max Holloway (01:25)
    • DC and Max share a personal story about discovering each other's real names (Jerome for Max, Ryan for DC).
    • "I'm gonna call you Ryan from now on." — Max Holloway (02:14)

2. Fight Week Mindset, Goals, and BMF Title (02:32–03:47)

• Max’s Excitement for Las Vegas and Title Defense:
  • Max relishes fighting in Vegas, remarking on its "Ninth Island" status for Hawaiians and the unique BMF (Baddest Motherf***er) title.
    • “It’s the fight capital... I just can't wait. My BMF title on the line, head main event. Can't beat it.” — Max Holloway (02:36)
• Bigger Picture Aspirations:
  • Holloway reveals his victory over Poirier made him feel closer to a shot at the undisputed title.
    • “If you win this one this weekend, you can stand and go, hey, now, I think I deserve a chance to fight for the undisputed championship.” — Daniel Cormier (03:03)
    • Holloway agrees, highlighting the importance of “moments” to UFC and referencing a career-defining “300 moment.”
    • “If you go out there, you make a moment. That's what UFC wants, moments.” — Max Holloway (03:47)

3. Handling Pressure, Creating Moments, and Staying Smart (04:07–04:51)

• Chasing Glory, Not Forcing Moments:
  • DC asks how Max avoids chasing spectacular highlights at the expense of strategy.
  • Max stays grounded:
    • “Go out there, stick to the game plan... if the opportunity presents itself, I'll go for it. I’m not going to chase it.” — Max Holloway (04:23)

4. Charles Oliveira Matchup – Technical and Personal Breakdown (04:51–07:13)

• Mutual History and Respect:
  • Max sees fighting Oliveira, a former champ, as an honor and a chance to deliver on past hype, after their first match failed to deliver.
  • DC and Max discuss Charles as a well-rounded threat: knockout and submission skills.
• Grappling vs. Striking Joke:
  • Max laughs off claims that he “can’t grapple with Oliveira,” emphasizing the complete nature of MMA.
    • “Brother, this is MMA. So we get to find out.” — Max Holloway (06:20)
  • On Oliveira’s evolution:
    • “Before he was Jiu Jitsu Oliveira, now he’s MMA Oliveira... he's submitting these guys, right, he's not taking them down and submitting them, he's cracking them on the feet or hurting him on the feet and then submitting him. So I think he’s a very dangerous opponent.” — Max Holloway (06:20)
• Approach if Oliveira is Hurt:
  • On whether he’ll follow Oliveira to the ground:
    • “If I knocked him down 100 times, I'll tell him, get up if I need to... Sometimes he get hit, he, like, he does his dance thing... if we feel like we actually hurt him, we'll go to it, but we'll see what happens.” — Max Holloway (07:38)

5. Oliveira’s Style & Their Past (08:04–08:54)

• Expectations for Fight Approach:
  • Max prepares for everything, noting they’ve both matured immensely since their youth:
    • “You can't take nothing away, brother. We were so young. That's like 10 years ago... We both grew as kids. You're so trash as kids.” — Max Holloway (08:22)

6. Banter: Ears, Hair, & Mutual Roasting (08:54–09:17)

• Lighthearted Jabs: The duo roast each other’s looks during their fight days, keeping the tone fun and engaging.

7. Dream Fights and Conor McGregor Scenario (09:17–11:36)

• Addressing McGregor Matchup:
  • DC asks if Max would entertain a BMF fight with McGregor.
    • “If you ever got your fat ass off the couch, I'll fight you international.” — Max Holloway (10:02, playfully aimed at DC before answering the actual McGregor question)
    • “If the Conor McGregor fight goes, be dumb as hell not to take it.” — Max Holloway (11:37)
  • Max makes it clear he’s all in if the opportunity arises, balancing focus on Oliveira with openness to blockbuster fights.
• Holloway and DC’s Spirited Rivalry:
  • Max and DC joke about fighting each other in eating contests and super heavyweight divisions, again emphasizing their chemistry and humor.

8. Legacy, Retirement, and Motivation (11:50–13:38)

• Career Longevity and Motivation:

  • DC observes that, compared to other long-tenured stars, no one questions Max’s retirement timeline.
    • “Most guys... people start talking about retirement, retirement, retirement... but that doesn’t happen with you.” — Daniel Cormier (12:25)
  • Max credits his competitive drive and success against fan favorites as to why “retirement talk” isn’t louder.
    • “I got a lot more to do. I want to put my name next to history books in your name as a two division champ and one step closer come March 7th.” — Max Holloway (12:33)

• Mount Rushmore Aspirations:

  • The conversation closes with friendly ribbing about UFC all-time greats and who deserves a spot on MMA’s “Mount Rushmore.”
    • “Mount Rushmore next to me, bro, you’re not on Mount Rushmore.” — Max Holloway (12:53)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Context | |-----------|---------------|---------------| | 01:25 | Max Holloway | “Bro, you're so white, bro. Max, you're so white, bro.” | | 03:47 | Max Holloway | “If you go out there, you make a moment. That’s what UFC wants, moments.” | | 04:23 | Max Holloway | “Go out there, stick to the game plan... if the opportunity presents itself, I’ll go for it. I’m not going to chase it.” | | 06:20 | Max Holloway | “Brother, this is MMA. So we get to find out.” | | 07:38 | Max Holloway | “If I knocked him down 100 times, I'll tell him, get up if I need to... if we feel like we actually hurt him, we'll go to it, but we'll see what happens.” | | 08:22 | Max Holloway | “You can't take nothing away, brother. We were so young. That's like 10 years ago... We both grew as kids. You're so trash as kids.” | | 10:02 | Max Holloway | “If you ever got your fat ass off the couch, I'll fight you international.” (Joking with DC before discussing Conor) | | 11:37 | Max Holloway | “If the Conor McGregor fight goes, be dumb as hell not to take it.” | | 12:33 | Max Holloway | “I got a lot more to do. I want to put my name next to history books in your name as a two division champ and one step closer come March 7th.” | | 12:54 | Max Holloway | “Mount Rushmore next to me, bro, you’re not on Mount Rushmore.” |

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Timeline of Important Segments

• 00:38–02:32 – Humorous banter, background stories, and bonding.
• 02:32–03:47 – Holloway’s feelings on fighting in Vegas and defending BMF title.
• 03:47–04:51 – Chasing moments vs. sticking to strategy at an elite level.
• 04:51–07:13 – Oliveira matchup: technical analysis, evolution, “MMA Oliveira,” grappling vs. striking.
• 07:13–08:54 – Adapting to Oliveira’s style; dismissing their first fight as irrelevant due to youth and growth.
• 09:17–11:36 – Conor McGregor possibilities, more banter with DC about fighting each other.
• 11:50–13:38 – Retirement talk, Max’s motivation, and legacy/Mount Rushmore debate.

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Closing Thoughts

Max Holloway’s chat with Daniel Cormier showcases the mindset of a driven, joyful warrior unafraid of tough questions or tough opponents. The discussion balances playful chemistry with real insight into how an elite MMA fighter prepares mentally and tactically for the biggest moments. Holloway’s openness to future superfights (like McGregor) and his focus on legacy, not just titles, makes it clear why he remains a fan favorite and perennial contender.

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Transcript

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[Daniel Cormier]

The volume. Daniel. Max Holloway checks in. My brother. Thank you so much for checking in.

[Max Holloway]

Thanks for having me, bro.

[Daniel Cormier]

Another big fight week, man. It's like every time last year. We're in New Orleans now, back in Las Vegas. First off, did you enjoy being down

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there in New Orleans?

[Max Holloway]

I loved it, bro.

[Daniel Cormier]

Did you stay and eat afterwards?

[Max Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, we stayed a day. We got to eat a bunch of food, so we loved it, bro.

[Daniel Cormier]

What'd you have?

[Max Holloway]

Everything. What? What did we not have, bro? Crocodile is actually really good.

[Daniel Cormier]

You alligator.

[Max Holloway]

Alligator? Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, you like it?

[Max Holloway]

Yeah. What the hell?

[Daniel Cormier]

I can't eat, like, anything.

[Max Holloway]

Like, I can't look at you, bro. I can't eat white.

[Daniel Cormier]

Just.

[Max Holloway]

Bro, you're so white, bro. Max, you're so white, bro.

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It's so. I don't even.

[Max Holloway]

Call me Jerome from.

[Daniel Cormier]

I actually don't.

[Max Holloway]

You don't call me Jerome? Cuz I'm more so than you, bro. That's crazy, bro. This guy is crazy, bro.

[Daniel Cormier]

Do you remember when I found out your name was Jerome?

[Max Holloway]

Yeah, that was crazy. Wait, wait. What is it? Kasan? What is his middle name?

[Daniel Cormier]

Ryan.

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Ryan.

[Max Holloway]

Ryan. I found out. You guys want to know how I found out his name was Ryan? Bro, we got. He called an Uber, and they're like, ryan. I was like. I thought, who the is Ryan, though? I don't have no Ryan. We're not with no white guys. He's like, I'm Ryan stupid. I'm like.

[Daniel Cormier]

Because where. You know, sometimes, you know, people call you. They come to get you. Yeah, whatever, man.

[Max Holloway]

You sweating so much.

[Daniel Cormier]

I know, because you keep fucking with me the whole time.

[Max Holloway]

I'm gonna call you Ryan from now on.

[Daniel Cormier]

Not Daniel, but do you call me Jerome? When I found out your name was Jerome, it was the craziest. It made sense as to why you move so fast. Yeah, you can fight the way you fight.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah, Ryan, that makes sense. Why you don't move so fast.

[Podcast Host]

Perfect.

[Max Holloway]

And you're a wrestler, Ryan. Holy.

[Daniel Cormier]

Oh, my God, bro. Back in Vegas. How good does it feel?

[Max Holloway]

Feels good, bro. Feels good. I know. You know how it is over here. It's called the Ninth Island. It's going to have a bunch of Hawaiians in that. In T Mobile Arena. It's the fight capital. Oh, my gosh. I. I just can't wait. My BMF title on the line. Head main event. Can't beat it.

[Daniel Cormier]

You know, when we were. When we were talking in New Orleans, we talked about, like, your goals and your aspirations, and obviously still to become a champion when you won that fight, right, and remained the BMF champion, beating a guy in Dustin Poirier, you retiring him, did it feel like it gets you closer? Do you feel like that win. If you win this one this weekend, you can stand and go, hey, now, I think I deserve a chance to fight for the undisputed championship.

[Max Holloway]

Oh, for sure, for sure. You know, I mean, not only that, because I have history with older guys, you know, and I have history with the interim title holder. I have history holder. Lights went out.

[Daniel Cormier]

No, because your guy. You got a guy in your crew, like, bumping into the thing with his shoulder, bro.

[Max Holloway]

That's my Charles Oliveira.

[Daniel Cormier]

Kind of look like Charles.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah. What is Hairline. But I'm just joking.

[Daniel Cormier]

Do you feel. You just make fun of everybody, bro? It's like nobody's safe. But does it feel like, you know, it puts you closer to that championship by defending the belt this weekend?

[Max Holloway]

Oh, for sure. You know, like I was saying, I have. I have history with Justin Gaethje, the interim title holder. I have history with the undisputed title holder. So at the end of the day, if I can go out there, bro, and you know what it is? If you go out there, you make a moment. That's what UFC wants, moments. They want moments. You know, if I imagine I go out there, do a 300 moment again, you know what I mean? It would be insane. You know, how would you deny that?

[Daniel Cormier]

But that's even the danger in that, though, right? Like, you know that, right? You've been around the game so long, you know that. How do you make sure you don't try to chase that moment again? Because you go, if I make it 300 moment again, that's like once in a lifetime, right? Like, but, like, how do you make sure that you don't find, you know,

[Max Holloway]

I mean, you know, go out there, stick to the game plan, and just keep putting on them, you know what I Mean, and then if the opportunity presents itself, I'll go for it. I'm not going to chase it. Right. We have, we have a fight even with the Justin Gaethje fight, right? The moment happened in the last 10 seconds. Yeah, I mean, like, it is what it is, you know, so if a moment can happen in the first 10 seconds, if the moment can happen in the second round, whatever, whenever the moment happens, you know, you chase those things. But you got to be pretty smart to be at this elite level of competition, you know?

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, for sure. You know, this isn't the first time we've talked since this fight been announced. You and I spoke before when the fight was announced and we talked about Charles Oliveira being the opponent. Right. You are a guy that gets these types of fights where people just expect them to be explosive. When you got the Oliveira fight, like, what was the excitement level, knowing that you guys have competed before, what was the excitement level to fight a guy that's a champion like that for the BMF title?

[Max Holloway]

Exciting, exciting. I mean, like I said, not many guys get to fight for the BMF title and not many guys names is even thrown in the BMF title conversation, you know, so at the end of the day, to have him a former champion, another former champion, it's just amazing. And like you said, we had history, but not really, you know what I mean? And he said a bunch of stuff and whatever that was going on with the first fight, I mean, it was, it did not live up to the hype. So hopefully this fight we can right that wrong and you know, and give the world what they want.

[Daniel Cormier]

When you think of Charles Oliveira the fighter though, what do you think of when you think Charles Oliveira the fighter? Because I'll tell you what we think as fans, right?

[Max Holloway]

What do you fans think?

[Daniel Cormier]

We think a guy that can finish fights on the feet, unbelievable submission artist, just a full on champion and just a dog. But honestly, when you look at a guy, you got to start searching for weaknesses as his opponent. And Charles has had moments where he has had his weaknesses shown. How do you see yourself dealing with like the pressure of Oliveira and do you expect him to fight you in that way?

[Max Holloway]

He said it best, you know, when, before he was Jiu Jitsu Oliveira, now he's an MMA Oliveira and when he's submitting these guys, right, he's not taking them down and submitting them, he's cracking them on the feet or hurting him on the feet and then submitting him. So I think he's a very Dangerous opponent. I mean, this is, like, he said in his own words, mma Oliveira. And I'm excited for it, you know, I mean, we get to find out. I think so. One of his. I just was doing a bunch of interviews. One of his Portuguese guys said. He said, the difference between this fight and me and him is that he can strike with me, but I cannot grapple with him. And I'm like, brother, this is mma. So we get to find out.

[Daniel Cormier]

But he said it was mma.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

And now he says, like, it's contradicting himself.

[Max Holloway]

That's why I don't. I'm confused. And if he believes he can strike,

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maybe it was less.

[Daniel Cormier]

Like, maybe it was lost in translation.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe.

[Daniel Cormier]

So he probably believed that.

[Max Holloway]

If you believe he's striking me, we get to find out come Saturday night, man.

[Daniel Cormier]

So I truly believe that one of the things that makes Oliveira so able to survive when you guys hurt him is when they hurt him, they are so afraid to follow him to the ground that he kind of lays on his back and he gets to recover. We've seen it time and time again. He gets dropped, and then they don't want to go down because of the dangers. Are you willing to go down there if you hurt him?

[Max Holloway]

We see what happens, you know, I mean, if the moment is right, if we feel like we hurt him a lot, maybe we follow him. If not, if I knocked him down 100 times, I'll tell him, get up if I need to. You know, if I feel like he's playing. Because you don't know. He played possum. Yeah, this guy, like, he loves to play possum. You know, Sometimes he get hit, he, like, he does his dance thing, and I'm like, brother, you're acting here, you know? And if the moment is right and we see it and we feel like we actually hurt him, we'll go to it, but we'll see what happens.

[Daniel Cormier]

He has a style where he likes to press forward. Do you think he fights you in that way? Especially after the way the fight with Topuri happened, where he was trying to fight in that style. But you're so, like, you're fast, you're long, you move a lot. Do you think Oliveira is going to stalk at you like he did some of these other guys? And can you take anything from that first fight?

[Max Holloway]

We see what happens, you know, we see what happens if he does that. I'm not sure, you know, I don't know what they do. Maybe he surprises us and do something the way else that We've been watching, but we were ready for everything. We got ready for everything. And then asking for the first. From the first fight. You can't take nothing away, brother. We were so young. That's like 10 years ago. Yeah, I mean, that'd be. That. That'd be if. If me and him was the same person 10 years ago, we wouldn't be at where we at in our careers. You know, we. We both grew as. As. As kids. You're so trash as kids. It is what it is.

[Daniel Cormier]

Why you laughing?

[Max Holloway]

Yeah, because now you're acting like a Daniel.

[Daniel Cormier]

They'll say, you were so trash back then, brother.

[Max Holloway]

I would have beat.

[Daniel Cormier]

Your hair was so big, too. Your ears were so big. It's almost like your face grew into your ears a little bit. Your ears, Seriously, bro, I saw a picture of you back. I was like, your face.

[Max Holloway]

My ears is huge.

[Daniel Cormier]

They were big back when you were young.

[Max Holloway]

It's like the size of yours now.

[Daniel Cormier]

Come on, bro, don't do that.

[Max Holloway]

When's the last time you had hair? Ask me that.

[Daniel Cormier]

See, that's what I'm talking about. This is why you can't invite nobody on your show. Yeah, because of, like, this dog. You just come and disrespect me. So I want to ask you this, right? The UFC were fighting in the White House, obviously, in June, but there's an international fight we caught after that BMF title could also put you in a place where a guy in Conor McGregor, who you have some history, would also. Right. Could potentially be there in June, July. Would that be something you would entertain if, you know, you won the belt this weekend and you say, man, I want to go and kind of write that this dude needs an opponent. I'm holding the BMF title. Would you consider him even in that BMF conversation after he's been away as long as he has? And is that something that you would look. Look at doing?

[Max Holloway]

Oh, for sure, for sure. Why not? You know what I mean? If. If you ever got your fat ass off the couch, I'll fight you international.

[Daniel Cormier]

Why you wouldn't fight me?

[Max Holloway]

Dmf?

[Daniel Cormier]

You think I can fight you in July? Yeah, man. I couldn't even get to the fighting weight in July.

[Max Holloway]

You don't have to fight no weight.

[Daniel Cormier]

Heavyweight. I'd have to cut to make the heavyweight.

[Max Holloway]

Super heavyweight.

[Daniel Cormier]

First time I would beat your ass

[Max Holloway]

in an eating contest. Maybe not even that. You're not even.

[Daniel Cormier]

I'm actually going to go to Hawaii and I'm a beat your ass.

[Max Holloway]

Please Come, please, please come and be my ass recorded for your show.

[Daniel Cormier]

You need it.

[Max Holloway]

Let's do it.

[Daniel Cormier]

Because you are bad off.

[Max Holloway]

Actually, don't do it, because I want to get paid for it. But. But back to you.

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[Max Holloway]

Question. If.

[Daniel Cormier]

If.

[Max Holloway]

If that's. If that's the fight, that's the fight. You know what I mean?

[Daniel Cormier]

I.

[Max Holloway]

We got to see what happens. How much times guys here sitting and talking future reverence when they're facing Oliveira, and then they end up on the bad side. Yeah, yeah, I got that focus. But if the Conor McGregor fight goes, be dumb as hell not to take it.

[Daniel Cormier]

Yeah, for sure. Max, before I let you go, I want to ask you this. You've been around for so long, all. All time greats, even Dustin Poirier, right? Because Dustin's not that old. But people start talking about retirement, retirement, retirement. Like, when is he going to retire? Is it almost over? Like. But that doesn't happen with you. Like, that's. It's the weirdest thing. Like, I never hear people asking about when Max Holloway is going to retire. Like, is that surprising? Because most guys that are champions and then they're not the champion, and they've been. You've been there for what, 14 years now? 13 years.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, 14.

[Daniel Cormier]

Most people, like Jordan, I feel like fans actually ran George St. Prier out the door. Are you hearing that? And I'm just not hearing it.

[Max Holloway]

I mean, I hear it sometimes, you know, it is what it is, but I think so. I'm only hearing it because I'm beating their favorite fighter. So at the end of the day, I'm glad you know, I'm here. I got a lot more to do. I want to put my name next to history books in your name as a two division champ and one step

[Daniel Cormier]

closer come March 7th, maybe Mount Rushmore. You want to be on Mount Rushmore

[Max Holloway]

next to me, bro, you're not on Mount Rushmore.

[Daniel Cormier]

You actually say that to Security guard told me that. Like, you out here talking trash about me so much that the security guard, as I pull into the parking lots, like, Max said he don't want you on Mount Rushmore.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

I'm like, man, I can't even get to work. I can't even get to work.

[Max Holloway]

Whoever's at Security Guard Apex or ufc, please raise his pay.

[Daniel Cormier]

Cause, I mean, I can't even get to work.

[Max Holloway]

That's the man.

[Daniel Cormier]

What about this dude coming at me? Hey, thank you. Checking in.

[Max Holloway]

My brother always gotta do this before we leave.

[Daniel Cormier]

He don't like this. Hey. Max Holloway fights and tries to defend his BMF title for the second time this weekend against Charles OLiveira at UFC 326 from the T Mobile arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. Don't miss it on Paramount. Plus, hey, you ain't even got to pay pay per view no more. Yo, can I hold something? I heard y' all all getting paid more.

[Max Holloway]

Huh?

[Daniel Cormier]

Can I hold something? I heard everybody getting bigger paychecks. Max.

[Max Holloway]

I don't know. Justin Gaethje called you out.

[Daniel Cormier]

The last one.

[Max Holloway]

He called you up.

[Daniel Cormier]

He's supposed to be my friend.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah.

[Daniel Cormier]

Guess what? He was getting more money and didn't answer the phone.

[Max Holloway]

Oh, wow.

[Daniel Cormier]

Guys, make sure you don't miss Max Holloway this weekend. Tune into Paramount. Until next time, like, subscribe. Tell your friends to tell their friends that DC's got a YouTube channel and I'm tapping into people like Max Holloway.

[Max Holloway]

Thank you, brother.

[Daniel Cormier]

The daddest man on the planet is out. Peace me.

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