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Richard Sherman
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Kendrick Bourne
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Kendrick Bourne
That meeting was a key factor to that success of that day. And I'm just thankful for Kyle. Man, it was crazy. He like, came out of nowhere from the training room and it was like, man, his aura was still being hurt. His aura was still there, right? Oh, shoot. He's like, don't ever wear no skinny jeans till my meeting again. I was like, Man, I love skinny jeans. I love being a fly. We talked about Ricky a little bit, and he was like, look, we found Ricky a best friend, but early in his career, he.
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Richard Sherman
He was.
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Kendrick Bourne
He was talking like, you ain't going to get no cash today. I like, dang, my boy. Are you serious?
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Richard Sherman
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And we got an incredible guest today, Kendrick Bourne. He needs no introduction. Been killing this season. 15 receptions for 284 and 12 first downs in the last two games. BR, what's good?
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Kendrick Bourne
What up, Sher, man? Thanks for having me, bro. Appreciate the welcome. Like you said, I don't need to welcome, man. I can feel the energy through the screen from you. It's been good last few weeks, man. It's been fun, man. How you doing, man?
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Richard Sherman
I'm doing better now. I'm doing better. I'm right where I need to be. I'm right where I need to be, man. You've been killing. But I'm going to take it back to when I first met you in 2018.
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Kendrick Bourne
And.
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Richard Sherman
And you, you know, you know, I call you Br, you know, because they say. You say you're born ready. That's what they say. But.
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Kendrick Bourne
That'S it.
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Richard Sherman
That was the insider inside joke. That's the insider. That's one way to put it.
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Kendrick Bourne
Insider.
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Richard Sherman
Um, but I don't think I've ever told you this, but you changed the way I saw preparation for a football game. Wow. You changed. You changed the way I thought about it because I always thought you had to be so locked in, and so, like, you know what I mean? Headphones in, everybody's serious. And you used to be dancing and your energy is crazy and smiling and laughing. And I used to be like, bro, he ain't locked in at all. Blr. He ain't tripping about. He ain't tripping about nothing. That boy. And then you would go out there, snag, snag, snag, clutch, catch. I'm like, okay, maybe it's a different.
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Kendrick Bourne
Way to do it.
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Richard Sherman
Maybe it's more than one way to skin a cat, I promise you. I used to think you had to be serious. You had to be headphones on, and if you wasn't, you wasn't going to play well. And you changed that whole perspective for me. I said, this man's energy is different, and I love it, bro.
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Kendrick Bourne
I really appreciate that, bro. Like, that's an honor to hear, bro. Like, even these last years, like, later, you know, us seeing each other again, like, you saying that, that's that's an honor, bro. And it. It goes to just enjoying the game, you know, being young back then, you know, you saw me back then being a young guy, just trying to make a name, just enjoying the game, enjoying it, not really understanding, you know, how certain people operate. Like, like you said, you operated more like lock in. And I was just doing it how I thought was how to do it, and it worked for me and everybody works different, but it really was like an exciting time for me, you know, just getting in the league. Being young, I was really just enjoying it. But it was always been my personality and it worked for me. It kept me loose. It kept me in a mindset of like, hey, this is a kid's game, you know, just enjoying it. And so it was. It was really a fun time for me back then. But also to even hear how you say, like, you do have to have a professional side and like a silly side too. There's. It works both ways. So I've learned, even getting older, maturing more like, hey, you do have a half a sense of locking in at a certain time when it. When it gets closer. So as I got older, I started to learn how to tame it a little bit, still be myself, but also engage that side of what you're saying, like having that locked in mode. So it was. It. It was a good time that I did how I was. And then as I got older, I've learned how to balance it, you know what I'm saying? It's a business and you gotta know how to carry yourself, but it's also good to have that side to it too. So it's just been a journey, man.
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Richard Sherman
But it's also something about bro, your energy and your positive energy and your just constant, like, vibrant energy is something that elevates the team, you know what I mean? And I think they're speaking to it right now that they've missed. And you don't appreciate it or understand you miss it until it's gone. You know what I mean? It's like something a part of an engine. You're like, well, if we take this away, it won't matter that much. You could just replace it with a similar part, but you don't understand how massive that part is and how the energy you bring into that building affects so many people around you. And I think people are appreciating it now. And I'm happy to see that.
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Kendrick Bourne
That's fire. And that's exactly. I didn't really understand it either. That's what's Amazing. You know, obviously, I went to New England, left for a little bit, and it was different. It was a different world for me. And it's funny how you say how you operated, you know, when you warmed up and then I did. It's almost like when I was in San Fran, I was, like, free. But then when I went to New England, it engaged that side of me, that blue collar. Like, oh, shoot. Like, they operate different over here. So I was bringing my energy into that, and it kind of got settled in, you know what I'm saying? I was kind of, like, adjusted to my environment. So I wasn't, I would say, as vibrant as you say, because my energy does affect. And I think that was something that I kind of, like, kind of lost. Not lost, but, like, I was just in a different space. So coming back, what you're saying was just amazing. Like, I even missed it and what you're saying. So I was able. I'm able to pour out more into, like, this environment is just different. You know, you experience different things. Every place is different. But I definitely didn't understand how big it was and how much I have to, like, enjoy that because it feeds myself, too, and, like, how I operate in a crazy way. But I definitely see that the organization appreciates it. Being back so far, you know, Kyle and John and them, they've been saying it, man, so it's been fun. It's been dope so far, bro.
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Richard Sherman
You're a dope human being. You're a dope human being. And another part I want to say that I noticed and I made sure to comment every single time I saw you wear a suit or anything. I said, look, I remember when BR used to come in a building totally different than this. I said, I don't know who this is unusual.
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Kendrick Bourne
And that's a part of the growth, like, what you've been talking about. And you've always given me good advice, like, how to carry myself little gems here and there. But you never was the type to, like, shut it down. You always would just give little gems of, like, hey, sprinkle this in. You know, fix this up. And it goes into that maturity and that growth. And my agent is a big one. That was like, man, you need to stop just wearing whatever you want. You got to look presentable. You got to, you know, show you care about it. And I think the suits, they really do a big thing for just what you're saying. Like, I'm about business. Like, I am who I am. I'm goofy, I'm silly. But when I step in between the white lines, like, I'm about business and. And it's something that you have to learn and you got to really like. It may seem little, but it's big. So the suit thing, man, has been fun and. And it does do something to you mentally. When you suit up, you like. Oh, yeah. Like, you even feel it. So. So it's been dope, man, just growing up, but being myself has been fun, man, but it's little things that go a long way.
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Richard Sherman
And let's just talk about the team, because you come in, when you come in, Mac Jones is all of a sudden, he's the starter for a little while because obviously the injury to Brock and you guys have instant chemistry from New England. I witnessed it myself when they brought me in on a Sunday night and young BR was in New England trying to run dig routes. I said, oh, oh, what a time, what a time, what a time.
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Kendrick Bourne
It's funny. So, like, yeah, Mack, it was crazy. Like, even ironic now how we're together, man. God put us together and he worked it all out. And so, you know, I never. You never know what's going to happen in life. You never know what the journey is going to bring. So just trusting the plan, going, working, being prepared for your opportunity, that's kind of what's been happening with me. When I went to New England, like, I changed how I ate and worked and took care of my body. Like, I went through so many changes over there and obviously I was with Mack his rookie year and. And so not even, like, understanding four years later what would be, but just going through life, going through times of change. And that's what it was when I left here and going over there and meeting Matt and we instantly hit it off too. Like, he was behind Cam Newton at that time and Cam was. Cam was kind of coming back from, like, trying to resurrect his time and stuff like that, and Matt ended up getting a job and stuff like that. And then we just kind of connected. We were connected more and more. Obviously got paid and stuff like that. So I had a role in things. And we just were connected. We just were connected and you could feel it. And it started to show on the field and then fast forward over. Well, I'll talk about our game, which was funny. So seeing you out there with this crazy was like, man, you go keep running these things. It was a crazy time, man. Even seeing you, like in that. In that uniform, man, just seeing you, everything, like our connection and stuff was just crazy. Tom Brady just a crazy time playing out there with some legends like you, yourself and Tom. It's just. It's amazing, man, that, that, that atmosphere was crazy in itself and just a fun time. But like you said, you could see the connection that we had, which was amazing. So coming over here, him having his opportunity, me getting mine, it's like you almost can't write it, bro. And I'm like, man, God, like, dating you. Good God, like, appreciate it. Like, it's a blessing. And. But it all goes into the preparation before, prior to, like, me being here. Because if I come out here not ready, body physically not ready, mentally not ready. Mac mentally not ready, not physically ready. We're not going to have these last two weeks that we have. You know, we're not going to be prepared for it. It would have probably passed us by. But it goes into the work of prior years and all the buildup, and it's crazy how it's happening, but it's definitely ordained and I'm happy about it, man.
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Richard Sherman
So, man, I keep it going. I'm so happy for.
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Kendrick Bourne
Excludes Massachusetts. Hey, what's up?
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Kendrick Bourne
The.
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Richard Sherman
And you even had some adversity. It hasn't always been smiles and rainbows. When you came back, you had the drop on third down and, and we in an instant, you know, gratification, but an instant tear you down world as well. And I know how hard that was for you. And it was on a short week and you got a pinned tweet says let the criticism help you not affect you talk about it.
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Kendrick Bourne
Everything that you go through is for a purpose. And that's truly what I believe. So there's no growth in comfort. There's no, there's, there's only growth in, in, in like adversity and, and hard times. You change, you change how you think, you change how you operate, you change how you view things. And, and in that game, it was my first game with Brock too. So I'm like, I want to, I want to help play with Brock. You know what I'm saying? I'm feeling it like I want to make it look good. And, and it just didn't go our way. It just, everything was going left. I had three drops in the game and I'm just like, bro, like what is happening? And so it was adversity. So after the game, you know, taking the l just shout out Arik Armstead. It was almost like his day, which was.
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Richard Sherman
It was his revenge game, baby.
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Kendrick Bourne
It was his revenge, which was, you know what I'm saying? The energy was. You could feel something was off, which is crazy. Shout out to the guy. But after the game I was just like, you know, you self evaluate after every game. Like athletes supposed to do. And we got to keep it real with ourselves. Like, so I'm like, all right, I could have been in better spots. It was just, it was a weird game. But I could have made the catches. That's what I do know. Like, I make those catches all the time, so why didn't I make them? You know, bad eyes. Trying to run before I catch the ball. You know how I get be ready to run. You can't do excitable. They ain't going to run without the ball. And some little things like that that you watch the film, you evaluate and the next week, like you said, I had a short week. And it was, it was eating at me though, man. I'm like, oh, I got to make up. And then you kind of doubt yourself sometimes. You're like, ah, how it's going to be? Am I going to have another bad game? But you got to have more belief than doubt. You got to, you got to know who you are and, like, your foundation and stuff like that. So warm ups, that game in LA was, it was funny. I was really, like, looking in the ball. I was kind of acting different. I'm like, I kind of don't like this. Like, I'm acting out of character. But it was good because I was, like, feeling it. Like, hey, don't run from it. Don't, don't be scared of it. Like, lock in. Like, it's kind of what you started the podcast with. Sometimes you got them days where, hey, I can't be too silly right now. Last week, last week I'm out there dropping that thing. It's this week. I'm, you know, I'm saying you ain't smiling as much, but, you know, it's different times you go through. So that's like what I've learned, too, and what you're saying of how you operate. And I was just looking the ball in through the week and, and I had the game that I had, obviously. But it, it's kudos to, like, believing, you know, always believing in yourself, understanding that, you know, I, I, I've been doing this for a long time and, and to have a short week was a blessing too, because you ain't got to think about it for four more days. You got three days. And it was no great game, man. Breakout game for me was huge.
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Richard Sherman
I want to talk about Kyle Shanahan and his belief in you because he got a different belief in you too. And I was in the team meeting where he threw his criticism at you. I wasn't in Every meeting that week, I'm sure he got in, you got in your hindquarters a little bit. I know how Kyle is, but he gave you fair criticism, but also spoke belief into you and smoke faith. He said, kb, I know you can do this, you know what I mean? I know you catch this and take it out the back end. He said you would have got caught at the red zone, but whatever. But he believes you could do it. Absolutely. And I think there's something to that to say, hey, I know what happened, but I also know the man you aren't. This isn't who you are. This isn't what I believe you are. I know you better and I'mma feed you. And he fed you that game. That was cool.
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Kendrick Bourne
And it's great coaching. That's exactly what it is. You know, you want to, you want to build your players up and, and, and you know, the game is all about coaching. I can't be the player I want to be if I'm not coached to be successful. Like, and it's not easy to be a coach. Like, I can tell like they going through a lot trying to put me in position to be successful. They never know what's going to happen. But in that meeting I felt that, I felt the encouragement, the, the coaching, the criticism, the constructive criticism. It's important. And like he not like, well, we gonna give up on you and next person. Nah, it's like, no, I've seen it. We have a relationship. You know, he gave me my first opportunity and that meeting, it really hit home for me, man. And that was a big part of the success of the LA game because he talked about that the day before the game. Like it's not like it was like you said, we already had our means prior. So this is a build up and like showing you, hey, I believe in you. And when you got the belief of the coaches, you got the belief of the organization, your teammates, it don't matter about what the fans say. You know the fans doing what you're saying, they put you up and they go tear you down. So you can never get caught up over there. You got to focus on internal, internally in the building. And that meeting was, was a key factor to that success of that, of that day. And I'm just thankful for Kyle, man. He, he really knows what he's doing. He knows personalities, he knows how to connect and it goes deeper than football. And that's why you see the success he's been having in his coaching career.
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Richard Sherman
No question. And speaking of players man, we lost Frederico. Like, oh, talk about how the locker room is taking that, man. That was hard to watch in every possible way.
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Kendrick Bourne
And, you know, like, the injury itself is tough. You know, we was talking about it like, you know, you see a guy go in the tent, hamstring, pull you like, ah, we don't really know what happened. And then he may go off lead the field, but it's like, all right. He might be all right, but to see how gruesome it was was just. It hurt. And to see who it was, what you're saying, you know, him playing that many consecutive games, about to break the record, all those things was like, oh, my goodness, like, out of anybody. And. And he gave us some good words after the game. It was crazy. He, like, came out of nowhere from the training room, and it was like, man, his aura was still being hurt. His aura was still there, right? Oh, shoot. Yeah.
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Richard Sherman
You know.
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Kendrick Bourne
You know what I'm saying? You just was somebody different, you know? And so he walked out on the crutches, and the room was just silent, man. But that's. That's the power he holds and. And the. And the weight he carries. And he just told us not to worry about him. And the way he works on the field, you know, he's going to attack the rehab. But it took the. It took the life out of us in that game. It was a tough time. I love the way we still battle, but it's just a lot of adversity we facing. And it's going to show who we are, who our backups are. Like, now it's ops for other people. And I go back to me and Mac Jones, we were kind of ready for our op, and it's showing. So whoever is behind Fred, whoever is behind whoever gets down, who are you. Are you going to step into your time? And that's kind of. We want to focus on that because it's hard to keep mourning, bro, because it's. Is Ms. Brad Warner with your head, we can more for the rest of the year. And that's. And that's what. And that's what he said out his mouth during. When he talked to us after the game was like, hey, don't. Don't worry about me. Like, And. And it helps us. And me even talk like this to. Because it came from his mouth. And you know it's real, right?
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Richard Sherman
Right? And you know it's real. And you know what? That's really what he means. And you know, as soon as that man can be back, he gonna be back. And I don't think it's going to be this season, but they say three months and three months don't seem like the end of the season for this team. And if that there's a will, there's a way. We, we. I've seen some crazier things happen in this game, but take me back to Easter. You know, we going, we going to switch. You know, I know June Bug, so I know Junior Adams, so I know some things about young KB that everybody else don't know. But you also got to play with Cooper cup and you got, you know, low key. East Room didn't put him out.
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Kendrick Bourne
I'm telling you.
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Richard Sherman
I'm telling you.
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Kendrick Bourne
I'm telling you.
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Richard Sherman
So tell me about y' all relationship and playing with him and the growth you've seen from him, the growth you've seen from yourself.
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Kendrick Bourne
Yeah, that was a huge time of my life. Obviously, being a young guy leaving high school, I was very, very. Had a strict dad, strict parents, no. No party, no moving around, none of that. So when I got to college, I was kind of free. Like, oh, man, like living in the dorms. Oh, I'm acting a fool now. Oh, great. And you know, you know what that creates. You know, that's a problem when you're not mature. You know, everybody matures differently. There's some people that leave high school and are very mature, but I'm not one of them dudes. I'm like, bro, I didn't get to party all high school when my dad was tripping muffin. I was harmonious and so just got into the lifestyle, just got into it, got into drinking, got into the, you know, everything. And it was just a tough life. Ended up having a baby young and in college and things like that. So just moving fast, needed to slow down. And that's where Coop was very influential in my life. Like, he was very mature. Like, Coop knew he was going to the league, like his freshman year. I, like, I don't know how he knew, but he, it was the work that he was putting and it was like, who he was, you know what I'm saying? Was just. He was more mature. And I remember one time, it was our senior year and I had senioritis, bro. I'm like, man, I'm going to the league too. Like, I, I ain't worried about nothing. I don't know how I knew I was going to the league where I knew it was. It was real delusional. But I knew and. But he came to me one day. It was during Summer, and I wasn't going to know 7 on 7. I was just like, man, I'm good. Season gear. We going cook. I was having good years prior. Like my. To my junior year, I was balling. But then senior year, he came to my house. He's like, man, he's like, man, I need you to get to where I'm trying to go. And I was like, oh, you need me? No, I need you. But, like, it really hit. It really hit. Like, he's saying this for a reason. Why is he saying this? And he understands, you know, a duo. And we had another guy named Shaq Hill. We had a good big three receiver group, and we have potential, but who can't do it by itself? Nobody can do it by themselves. And. And it really hit home for me. And I was like, oh, man. Like, it's bigger than. I think it's bigger than how little I'm making it. You can get what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, shoot. And so after that, I really locked in, man. Ended up having my best year. But a lot of it goes towards him and the standard he held himself to and he held our room to. And he had a lot of recruits out of college coming to look for him and stuff. So he gave me the opportunity to be seen by scouts, and it was just a blessing in itself to be around him and moving on to the league. He still influences me now. Balling, triple Crown. He's holding himself to the same standard, and I've always admired it, man. Like, okay, how can I be like him? And I didn't have the same kind of career. I'm just trying to build myself up in the league and things like that. But it's inspiring. And this is somebody that I'm close to. I'm like, okay, I've been around. I can do things like that and believe in, like, that. It may not go like that all the time, but kind of what's happening to me now is it's kind of those numbers, it's kind of crazy. I'm like a label.
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Richard Sherman
Though.
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Kendrick Bourne
No, that's a real thing, though. That's a real thing. Some people, your career may struggle in your first two years, three years, but then year six, bro, it might be your time. And so are you ready for it? Are you prepared for it? And I'm not trying to, you know, predict nothing or anything, but it has been time. I've. I've been developing, I've been growing, I've been changing mentally, spiritually, physically, all these things. Are happening. So my time is kind of now to maximize in year nine. Like Brett 79 year, right?
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Richard Sherman
I know dudes who ain't made a Pro bowl till year nine. And then they was perennial. Oh, wait.
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Kendrick Bourne
And that's where it goes to coup. Like, he inspires me in that way, and it's dope. So in June, Bug Junebug was. Was a. He was my coach my freshman year, and he was very influential. He ended up getting better jobs, but he was very influential. I remember the story about June. It was the receiver meeting. I was late to, man. I was. I was like, scrambling. I don't know what I was doing. But I always used to want to get fly to go to school. I was like, you know, I will get dressed.
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Richard Sherman
Same thing, right? Right, right. Same thing.
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Kendrick Bourne
Trying to be seen. And I go to the meet. I was coming to the meetings dressed, and he never said nothing. But this day, he. He, like. He got on me and I knock. I was knocking on the door. They was in the room, but I was late, and they were in the room. And he told everybody, like, be quiet. I'm like, hey. I'm, like, trying to listen through the door. Like, they gotta be in here. This our room. And I ended up just running around, went to the locker room, and he's like, where you at? He's like, where was you at? I was like, bro, I was at the door, and he was like. He's like, see? He's like, I had to. I had to teach you a lesson, because all you try to do is worry about being dressed, being fly, this and that, you know, focused on the wrong things. And he had a good point. He's like, don't ever wear no skinny jeans if I meet the kid. I was like, man, I love skinny jeans. I love being a fly. But I had to tame different things that I need to learn. And after that, bro, I used to still get fly, but I used to go home, order me to the locker room, change, get ready for the day, and be locked in. So all that time at Eastern was very important for where I'm at now. And little things that you learn from people that you encounter, and it's just huge for where I'm at right now, man.
- [28:07]
Richard Sherman
It's really cool to see, man. And it's cool to see full circle moment. Your relationship with Ricky and the way y' all kind of immediately hit it off and it. You could see, like, you breathing life into him. I'm sure you've given him great advice. The maturity. I'm hearing in this conversation in itself, I can't imagine how much impact you're having on him.
- [28:28]
Kendrick Bourne
I talked to Kyle today. I could tell a day or day off. Had a conversation with Kyle, and he was talking about. We talked about Ricky a little bit, and he was like, look, we found Ricky a best friend and just the dancing on film, because we be. We be getting caught on film all day. Like, it may look bad, but it is. It's a connection. What you're saying, it's gonna. Now, we're not competing with each other. We're helping each other. We're competing with other teams. It's always the competition in the NFL within the building. Yes, we're competing every day. We know this. But how do we. How do we separate that? And it's hard to do because I got my own personal goals. Ricky got his personal goals. Everybody got their personal goals. We trying to take care of our family. We trying to be great, trying to get some trophies and stuff back there like you. So you know what I'm saying? We're trying to do things, but how do we separate it for the bigger goal? And I think that's what's happening between me and Ricky. Like, Ricky knows. He just. He's enjoying. He's having fun. He's young. It's almost like he's not even year two. Like, the way he's playing and, like, moving, I'll be telling him, like, bro, you playing like you've been playing for six years, like. And he. And. But he can feel that, like, genuineness of it, like, the realness of it. I'm not saying it from a place of. Well, yeah, just gassing up, flattering him. No, bro, I really admire it, bro. Like, it's different, bro. And like, he was saying it too. He's like, bro, when you're in a huddle with me, it's like I can feel the energy and everything. So it's very genuine, man. I'm excited to, like, for him to be back, too. I was even telling him, like, I got my opportunity because you was down, bro. Like, once you get back, you know what I'm saying? We don't know how it's going to go, but I'm excited to have you back because the energy's needed. And he. And he's one of one, bruh. So he's gonna be a special player in his. In his upcoming years.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah, it's gonna be.
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Kendrick Bourne
He.
- [30:09]
Richard Sherman
He's. He. He put on some great tape and. And I love what I'm seeing From him. Obviously he had the. The issue early in his career, the gunshot and. And thank God he survived that. But I. I've really liked what I've seen from him. What's the mindset going into to the game against Atlanta this week? Obviously they came out with a big win against the Buffalo Bills. Sunday Night Football. Br. BR is the star. They might even have VR on the graphic. I'm thinking they might even catch him on a graphic this week. Sunday Night Football. Kendrick Bourne, Eastern Washington.
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Kendrick Bourne
It's going to be a good game, man. Those. Those boys played in a big game last night. Obviously. I watched it too, man. You could see Bijon in them, man. The defense flying around, bro. They got some good guys over there. Good scheme, good coach. They just. You could tell they change in the culture around over there, and that's what was needed over there. And you know, Kyle got relationship with the Falcons, so it's gonna be. It's gonna be spicy. It's going. You know what I'm saying? It's stirred up already and I'm excited about it. You know, that's what you want to play on. You want to play on, you know, under the lights and under. In prime time and stuff like that. So it's exciting, but it's a challenge for us, man. Like, I didn't really know about him too, until last night. Like, I was like, okay, this is a team. You know, you look on the schedule, how everybody do it, strength, the schedule. Ah, we could get this one. We could, you know, but then it started. We in week six, it changed quick from week one. Quick and looking different, I'm telling you. So, like watching last night, I'm like, they just played the Bills. Who the top dog? And you could see the Bills, they're. They're like. They know they're the top dog. So that's where it get tricky and. And we're considered a top dog right now. And you gonna get teams best at all times. So I feel like for us, we need to understand that, like evaluating that game last night, not trying to feel like we better than anybody, respecting the opponent, coming in with the right mentality, playing ahead of the sticks and stuff like that, like, it's super important. So on offense, I think that's kind of things we need to do. Defense, you know, obviously they got a challenge, you know, missing Fred, missing both of big guys. But it's an opportunity and for the next person up and for our team to show we can still get things done even when we going through adversity.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah, it definitely is an opportunity. It's a cool opportunity. Showcase prime time again. We got five quick ones before I let you out of here. Who was the receiver you looked up to growing up?
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Kendrick Bourne
The receiver, bro. Crazy thing I looked up to Odell Beckham.
- [32:37]
Richard Sherman
Wow.
- [32:37]
Kendrick Bourne
He frightens me, right? But thinking about Odell, even what he's going through now, now, praying for him, man. It's tough times for him right now, and he's trying to get back in. I hope he get back in because he's one of my favorite, but he was very influential on me. Just his ERA and. And the age I was at, like, you know, being high school, being, you know, seeing him, like, turning up everything, the showcasing was. Was just dope. So he was somebody that I really looked up to. And that's where some of the. The antics be coming from. Like, you got to be an entertainer, bro. Odell's one of the best entertainers in. In football, and it's a market in that. It's important, but you got to be a baller, too, so he was. He was somebody that I've always looked up to, man. I've admired Brian. It's a. It's a. It's a funny one because I'm close.
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Richard Sherman
I can't imagine if they would have gave you the light they gave Odell. I can. You would have ruined your life.
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Kendrick Bourne
I'm still reacting. No, for real, bro. They'll do a whole different stratosphere.
- [33:37]
Richard Sherman
It's crazy. Yeah. He's a list celebrity right now. Who's the toughest corner you've gone against in the league?
- [33:46]
Kendrick Bourne
So I always be between Darius Slay and Papy Peterson.
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Richard Sherman
Okay.
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Kendrick Bourne
Them was my favorites. Them was my favorite, too. But I got to give it to Pat. He was the most, like, intimidating. Like, before you go that week, you like, oh, bro, I need to see what he been doing. And I caught him around his later years, so he wasn't as crazy, but it was very smart. The instincts was crazy. And you couldn't, like, no plays off. You couldn't do a lazy route, things like that. So I have to give it to Paris. He.
- [34:19]
Richard Sherman
No question, no question. I love that answer. Favorite touchdown celebration. That's a hard one for you because you be jiving cuckoo, though.
- [34:30]
Kendrick Bourne
My favorite one, I would have to say. I would have to say the New Orleans Saints. I had two touchdowns. And the second one was funny because I. Well, the first one was funny because I did a dance, but all my teammates was pushing me so I couldn't finish it. I'm like, hey, hey, it's my moment right now. Everybody stop. It's my moment. But they, like, pushed me, so I, like, stumbled. And then Emmanuel Sanders, we did our handshakes, and that was fun. Then I had a second one where they kind of knew. I was like, hey, if I get back in that game, y', all. I know y' all excited, bro, but get a little strange, and I like a little dance. And I was cutting up, bro. So that was top dog.
- [35:11]
Richard Sherman
Y' all scored a lot of points that day. You was butting up.
- [35:14]
Kendrick Bourne
That was a big game, too, bro. Big game.
- [35:18]
Richard Sherman
That was a rough game for us. I remember I looked at that scoreboard. I said, ugh. Ugh. Yeah.
- [35:26]
Kendrick Bourne
Figure it out.
- [35:28]
Richard Sherman
It was in. In that point on that plane, like, dude, out.
- [35:32]
Kendrick Bourne
Shoot out, shoot out, shoot out. Hell yeah.
- [35:36]
Richard Sherman
Pre game hype song.
- [35:38]
Kendrick Bourne
Pre game hype song. So I gotta. I got a freaking hype song. It's a gospel rap song by Keon Boone. It's called Where's My Phone?
- [35:47]
Richard Sherman
Is that the one you put on your story or on your picture?
- [35:50]
Kendrick Bourne
On my Instagram. No, no, it might have been. Hold on. It's called Slight Reverend So it's a good song. It's a good song. Give me hot. Give me a nav mode. Give me a little good. Feed my spirit, but give me hype at the same time. So Keon, boo, y'. All. Check him out.
- [36:05]
Richard Sherman
K. Boom. Shout out from kb. And best trash talker. You faced.
- [36:12]
Kendrick Bourne
Best trash talker I fade. Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey. He. He. He the worst, bro. He. He was the worst. He's better now.
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Kendrick Bourne
He's quiet. Being more quiet now. He's cool. But early in his career, he. He was. He was talking about. He like, you ain't gonna get no cash today. I was like, dang, my boy. Are you serious?
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Richard Sherman
He was all.
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Kendrick Bourne
I. I don't know exactly what he said, but he. He was talking, though. He was talking, so J. Ram Got it.
- [36:37]
Richard Sherman
Oh, man. Well, I appreciate you, br. Man, I'm so. I'm so grateful for you and. And. And, you know, getting to see you in this space and getting to see the growth and being a. A witness to your journey and being a. A small part of. Of that journey. It means a lot to me. Thank you, sir.
- [36:52]
Kendrick Bourne
Appreciate it, man. Love the podcast, man. Like I said, a lot of trophies. Appreciate you supporting me, man. It's big.
- [36:57]
Richard Sherman
Always. Always. Love, brother. Have a good game this week, and I'll check in with you.
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Kendrick Bourne
Thank you, bro.
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