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Richard Sherman Podcast - Bills DB Rasul Douglas shares his incredible football journey
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Richard Sherman
The volume.
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Rasool Douglas
You notice, sir, you fall for these jokes.
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Richard Sherman
You don't.
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Rasool Douglas
Super bowl championship. That should always be the expectation.
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Richard Sherman
I ain't mad at you. Go ahead. Welcome to the Richard Sherman Podcast. I'm joined here by an incredible guest, Rasool Douglas of the Buffalo Bills. Appreciate you joining me. How you feeling? How you doing?
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Rasool Douglas
I'm doing good, man. I'm doing all good. My body feel good. Don't really feel like it's week 13, so that's a good thing.
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Richard Sherman
Knock on that wood, baby. That's a great thing. That's a great thing. I gotta talk to you about because, you know, you obviously had success when you. When you got drafted to Philly. You was. You was good, you know, I don't know what really happened after Philly, but you kind of bounced around a little bit and then got to Green Bay and start eating immediately. Talk me through that little. That transitional period, you know what I mean? What your mindset was like, what kept you going? What kept you consistent?
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah, so, I mean, after I went to Carolina for a year in 2020, and then after that, I decided to take a chance on myself with Raiders, went through a period with the Raiders with them, got into a kind of altercation, fist fight, playing the Rams in a joint practice. Got released, then went down to Houston for like two days. Got released. That was probably the fastest one. Then went to Arizona. I was kind of on a practice squad for about five, six weeks. Just coach telling me, you know, just keep learning the playbook, we gonna bring you up. I was practicing competing and I. And then I went home for a weekend and then I came back and they was just like, oh, bring your iPad in. Green Bay picked you up and then just went to Green Bay. But my mindset the whole time was just work. I mean, I was. I was not happy with where I was being on a practice squad, being out every day. You know how practice squad is. We want you to. Want you to go with this route. We can throw this. We want this. You dis leverage, you know, just setting me up. For failure. And. But I always looked at it like, I'm just going to compete because at the end of the day, these are starters I'm playing against. So I was going against D Hop, I was going against AJ Green, Christian Kirk, you know, Randall Moore, and I love them. And Kyle emerged. I was just like, well, it's still time for me to get better. I can use this as the time to get better. And I kept doing that. And then when I got to Green Bay, it just. Coaches was like, look, man, I see how you play. I don't want to change how you play, but let me help you get better with doing the things you are good at.
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Richard Sherman
And I.
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Rasool Douglas
And I always tell Jerry Gray, just every time I get a chance to. I was like, man, I appreciate you for, you know, believing in me, for taking a chance. Because, Sherm, you know how it is in the league. If you behind a guy who makes a lot more money than you and you playing good, when he comes back, that's still his spot.
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Richard Sherman
That's his spot. And.
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Rasool Douglas
And then in Green Bay, they was like, nah. Well, we play the guys who are playing who play well, and we don't really care about the money situation. We'll handle that when it's time to handle that. And they just let me keep playing, so I appreciate them for that. And I'm just getting me better and teaching me the game, teaching me how to watch film for real, because this. I think this was when I first started actually learning how to, like, break down film and not just watching it as in, like, if it's a movie or something.
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Richard Sherman
Right.
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Rasool Douglas
So it kind of helped my career. And once that happened, it's just been taken off from there.
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Richard Sherman
It's been taken off. It seems like you play with so much confidence out there, you booking everybody. You know, obviously, y'all lost a lot of leadership last year. It looks like you've taken on a bigger leadership role, you know, with Trey White and all the boys that's left. I think they said y'all lost six captains or something. You know what I mean? And sometimes, you know, team. Team got to move on. You know, team's got to move on and get moved forward. Talk me through your journey, because I'm going to take you back. I want to. I want to go to the community college you went to, and then you going to West Virginia, because that's not a journey that everybody takes. You know what I mean? And it's not necessarily the usual journey for a guy that's going to end up Having a lot of success in our league and playing as long as you have. What happened? Why. Why didn't you go straight out of high school?
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Rasool Douglas
So at high school, I only played my junior, my senior, high school. And I really didn't care about playing football, like, long term. It wasn't really like a big thing. I was just like, man, I'm gonna get a job, and I'm gonna just see what's going out there at this point. I'm like, you just need money, right? You know? And then this. This coach, Curtis Gilliam, he kept calling my phone. I'm like, why you keep calling me? And he was like, man, I'm a junior college coach out of New York. A couple of the guys that went to your high school have came here and have had success. So I'm like, okay. I'm okay. He's like, man, have you committed anywhere? Have you thinking about going anywhere? I'm like, nah, I just probably won't do that, Rob. Probably just get a job. He was like, man, can I just get you to just come up here and just check it out? So I went. I drove up to Long Island, New York, and he set me down his office, and I was like, man, like, who from here goes places? And I was like, man, I asked him a few colleges. I said, they come here. He was like, follow me. And we went down to the gym. And I remember we had, like, the number one offensive tackle and number one detachment during college. And he was. And we had Chad. He was committed to Florida State. And then we had Lance, who, rest in peace. He died this year. He had, like, Alabama and stuff. And we had a linebacker at usc. So he was like, man, they all here for a reason. So freshman year, I didn't really play that much. And then I came back and they switched me from safety to corner. It was like, yo, I think that you would be a good corner. You got the fee for it. I switched this corner, and then I just blew up. But the journey. College was tough, man. That was like, every day I quit, one day I regret telling a story. I don't really want to tell it, but I'll tell it.
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Richard Sherman
You ain't gotta. You ain't gotta tell it if you regret it.
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Rasool Douglas
It's not. It's not crazy, but I always just feel bad when I, like, think about it, because I was a rough place where, you know, like, in jerk class, like, you kind of, like, you fighting like you don't got no money. You know what I mean? And then, like, we. If you're in New York, they do double tuition. So, like, if you don't live in New York, you got to pay, like, out of state tuition. So it's basically paying double to go to school. So I'm from Jersey, so I'm paying double. And I remember, like, I just, like, bro, like, I'm homeless. I'm, like, the number two corner in the nation, and I'm homeless. I'm like, I'm done. Like, I quit. Like, you know what I mean? And I remember, like, getting a taxi, a cab, and, like, going back home. You know what I mean? Like, bro, like, it's over. Like, I can't keep doing this, bro. Like, my grandmother, she ain't really recognized. When she stood me, I was skinny. Like, I done got to, like, 165. And I just. I had to tell him. I was like, I'm done. And I took the cab all the way back home. I told coach. I was like, I quit. And then it took him, like, two days. He came back and grabbed me. He was like, man, like, I'm gonna help you out. And he started helping me out. But there was a lot of guys in our. In our room because we had a house for, like, 16 people with, like, five rooms, and all of them had offers. And I remember, like, I was the only one without offers at the time. And we had all. We all from Jersey, so we always usually meet at, like, a spot in, like, Montclair that was, like, the middle ground point where we would meet, and one of our boys, Earl, would give us a ride. And I remember sitting there waiting for him with my two bags in my hand, like, yo, man, y'all. Y'all going back, and they not answering stuff. And then they, like, text an hour later, like, yo, man, we all give up, bro. Like, it's just too hard for us. Our families are struggling. We got kids. You know, we can't do it anymore. And I'm like, dang. And I remember I walked from Kazori, where I lived at on Sussex Ave. I walked all the way from there to Penn Station with no money on the train. And, you know, like, when you want to train, you got to, like, get behind somebody that got the stick pad already, stick to their seat, and put it on the back of yours so that it looked like you've been already on the train to. So you can get to where you're going when you ain't got no money. So I did that all the way to school. And I remember just being at the house by myself. And everybody was going, and I was like, oh, they got offers and I don't, and they just quit. And, man, I just. I just had to keep fighting, though, man, that. That was probably, like, a rough patch of my life, but it also, like, helped me because I think at that point I had to, like, find God. And I think that he was testing me. Like, do you. Is this something you really want? Because I think people say it's something they run and then they sign the terms and conditions, and then it's like, I don't really want this. You know what I mean? So I think he was. He was just asking, like, okay, well, if you really want this, let me put some adversity out there and let me see if you quit like everybody else knew or you keep going. And I kept going. And then I had all the offers. I had, like, about 20 some offers. And I chose West Virginia because they was one of the first ones to reach out to me and show me love, and they stay consistent the whole time. So I was like, man, I'm gonna go down there and be a mountaineer. Bro. Bro, I don't know.
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Richard Sherman
I don't know what you ashamed of in that story. I got chill bumps. That's why I'm looking at my arms. Goddamn goosebumps. Because it's a real life story of, like, like, nah. Like, you know, because you didn't quit. You know what I mean? What you did was had doubt for a day, you know what I mean? Like, you didn't quit because quitting, you don't come back.
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah.
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Richard Sherman
So you never quit. All you did was. Was really what you were human, you know what I mean? And I think we've always had those moments. I was a sophomore in college at Stanford, you know, come from the hood. It's a weird, weird place. Bunch of weird people. And I'm. I'm, you know, I mean, kind of feeling like I don't fit. Hardball gets hired as the coach. I hurt my knee. We get into it. He tell me, I ain't never playing offense again. When I tell you that, boy, I was lonely, you know, didn't even know where to go, you know, all he said was I'd never play again. And he was like, you, it's time for you to. You, you need to transfer and quit and do you know me go somewhere else and. Yeah, you know, I ain't got the kind of family you could just go back and be like, oh, man, I messed. You know me, I'm about to leave Stanford and go Back to the hood and be like, y'all was right. I. I wasn't. You know me. I couldn't do it. You know? So I'm sitting there with a knee injury every day, walking back, crutching back to my dorm, like, bro, like, it's over. Like, bro, you. You. You had all these dreams. You had all this stuff you want to accomplish, and it's over with. And it was so many times I just wanted to get in the car, just be like, bro, just drive until we run out of gas, and we'll figure it out from there. But I didn't, because I was just like, bro, you can't. Like, they can't be right. You know what I mean? Like, that pride in me, like, I ain't gonna let y'all be right right now. And that kept me going. I end up switching to defense because he said I never play offense again, but he didn't say I could never play. And so I switched to defense. You know, I was a receiver. I couldn't pedal. Really. My pedal was stank. Like, my stance was nasty. It was bad out there, but. But I knew all the plays. So, yeah, they trying to signal plays. They're trying to line up. I know exactly what y'all doing. Like, I probably had 12, 13 picks that. That spring ball, like, because I know them all I'm calling about. Yeah, bro, it was. It was super fun. I jumped up the depth chart. I was the starting corner. Still didn't have a good stance, still, you know, figuring out tackling and stuff. But you fast forward two years later, I'm in the league, and, you know, I mean, I'm making it shake.
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah, yeah, one of the best.
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Richard Sherman
Appreciate that.
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Rasool Douglas
Hell, yeah.
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Richard Sherman
But, yeah, ain't nothing. Ain't nothing sad about that story, bro. That's a really cool story, and it's going. What you don't understand is how much it's going to inspire some kid that's going through the exact same thing. Like, some kid ready to quit right now won't hear you say that and be like, all right, let me give it one more day.
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Rasool Douglas
Yep. Yep.
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Richard Sherman
Because look how far it's taking you. You know what I mean? You one of the best DBs in the league, freaking getting books on one of the best teams in National Football League. You bounced around, stay consistent, stayed 10 toes down, and you getting what you deserve now. You know what I mean, y'all? Ball.
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Rasool Douglas
I know I ain't going to say no, I let you slide but.
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Richard Sherman
But bro, it looked rough out there the other day yesterday probably.
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Rasool Douglas
Well the other day was probably the worst game because every time we took a step the whole bottom of my cleat had like snow in it. So I remember One time I'm running, I'm like, damn. I feel like I'm running on a ball or something because my one. The back of my cleat had a snowball like this big. And then the front was on the ground, and I'm like, bro, we can't even move. And I remember everybody coming to the sideline like, oh, switch cleats. They switching our cleats for us. We going the next job. We like, man, these jumps don't work either. So I was just like, well, ain't no click gonna work if those three don't work. So I was like, you just gotta fight. And I remember Coach was just like, look, man. Like, look, just. Just stay solid. Don't. Don't give up. Nothing big, no explosives, and then just tackle. He was like, and we gonna get through this game, and then we'll be all right. So that was just the mindset for us. But that snow game, that was crazy. I done played in other games where it was cold but not snowing. The ground was like, you can't even do nothing with your feet. You know what I mean?
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Richard Sherman
But, bro, they don't understand. It's so hard to do play corner, period. Like, in perfect condition. So to make it like that, it's dang near impossible. I can't trust my feet. Now.
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Rasool Douglas
That's the thing. And I remember one. I remember one play, the one. He had caught the ball, and I remember both of us were sitting there trying to, like, stop together to go back to the football, and he just caught it with his chest and just went out about now, like, bro, come on, there's no way, bro, I can't get out my brick. And it was just. It was just bad. It was bad, bro.
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Richard Sherman
That's why when they talk about, oh, this is football weather, I said, not if you play corner. That's the most stressed football you will ever be a part of telling you.
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Rasool Douglas
Because at least a receiver, he know, like, all right, I'm stopping at this point.
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Richard Sherman
So he.
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Rasool Douglas
He good. But when you don't know and you just backbone, then it's like, oh, snap, I gotta break now. And you can't get your feet up under you. Yeah, nothing you could do.
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Richard Sherman
And then if you make one wrong move or slip you on Sports center.
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Rasool Douglas
Stop 10, everybody looking at you. That's why. That's why I say corner is the hardest position. Because it's like one play is just glorified, you know, a D line, not in their gap, and they get a big run that don't that ain't talked about. That's regular. You know what I mean? But once the corner do it. Oh, no, it's over.
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Richard Sherman
It's over with. It's over with every single time. Did you see that play that everybody talking about, including myself, with Z here and Trevor Lawrence, when he hit him when he was sliding?
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I seen it.
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Richard Sherman
What did you think of that? Because I'm in the department where first off, off, y'all making the game soft. Second off, like, he tried to get a few extra yards. And yes, these was. Was. Was probably a hair late, but it wasn't like he dropped. Dropped his shoulder.
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Rasool Douglas
And he was trying to.
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Richard Sherman
He was trying to, like, put his arms out and give him a forearm.
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Rasool Douglas
Instead of his helmet, because he could have went helmet to helmet if he wanted, but he kind of, like, put his arm out to, like, grace, you know?
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Richard Sherman
Like.
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Rasool Douglas
You know how your parents do a bad turn? They put their hand out, they're like, stop. That was one of those. But like I. Like I said, it's so hard to be DB because you telling the guy who's running 21, 22 miles per hour to wait to the last minute to stop. And then we see. We see plays like last week where. What was it, my home was scrambling, and then a guy thought he was about to slide. He kind of, like, just pushed him, but he kept running. So it's like, how do you determine whether he's going to slide or not? My thing is, as a quarterback, you know the rules. If you're gonna get yourself up, get yourself up early. If you're gonna try to fight for another yard or two, then you accept you excited when you get hit, right? And you know what I mean?
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Richard Sherman
You gotta expect it, you know? And that's exactly. He had booted Trevor Lawrence had booted around. He looking Z's in the eye for, like, 10 yards.
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Rasool Douglas
Like, you knew dang well, you could have been stop.
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Richard Sherman
You could have been stopped. You could. You sitting there, it's like, I could squeak a few more yards out of this. I can make it. Instead of second and second and seven, I can make it second and two. And it's like, all right. It's like getting to.
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah, you're playing with fire.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah.
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Rasool Douglas
And that's the thing. It's just too late. But a game happened it fast. And what they do is they slow it down and they try to. And it's like, bro, I'm going this fast that there's no way I can stop all my momentum because he slid late. Like, now if he does it early and then I still going to him, like, then that's something different.
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Richard Sherman
Something different.
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Rasool Douglas
But. But I've been in that play where I did that to Justin Fields, and I was like, bro, like, you slid right here like. Like I'm running full speed. I'm. I'm. And I know you running the ball like I'm trying to tackle you. And then it's like. And then the next time he ran the ball, I didn't hit him and he kept going. And I just kind of like, come on. It'd be that little indecisive, like, I can't. And I'd rather be wrong or right than wrong. You know what I mean? I'd rather just tackle him like I'm going to tackle him than not. And then he just keep going.
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Richard Sherman
So. Right.
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Rasool Douglas
It's a tough situation right there.
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Richard Sherman
It's a tough situation. That's what people never look like when you play defense. I hate to make the analogy because people don't understand it, but you won't understand. It's like being a black man in America, boy. You're like, you guilty until proven innocent every single time. And you be sitting there, they'd be like, you looking at a play and they slow mo it. You. You hand fighting with the receiver. He pulling your neck, he pushing your head, and you trying to go up for the ball. And they're like, that's defensive pass interference. I said, y'all didn't. When that boy stiff armed me in the face and caught the ball, y'all just said, that's a great play.
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Rasool Douglas
Nothing. Ain't gonna say nothing. Ain't gonna say nothing about that.
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Richard Sherman
Not. Not a thing. And that's the hard part for me is it's hard enough to play defense as is.
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah.
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Richard Sherman
Now y'all saying don't land on the quarterback. Y'all saying every bit of hand fighting. If it ain't the receiver, then it's. It's a penalty. And then. Then you can't hit nobody now. Now it's like I'm aiming for your chest, and then you duck down to. To brace up. I hit you in the head. Now y'all trying to suspend me. And it's like taking money out.
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Rasool Douglas
You know they taking that money. They know. They know. You know they like, man, that's all they care about is money. That's the only way we can get to them. All right, fine his ass.
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Richard Sherman
That.
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Rasool Douglas
That's just how they. That's how they think they Gonna take that money. They don't do anything else. They gonna take that money.
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Richard Sherman
They gonna take it every single time. That's the most. Even these. Even these, like, what do they call them, the tackles that they don't. Like the hip drop.
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Rasool Douglas
Hip drop. They just made a word for that. They literally just. That was not a word until, like, somebody's like, oh, that's like a hip drop tag. Now it's a hip drop. They ban it and they ain't called it yet the whole year.
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Richard Sherman
No, because you can't call it.
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Rasool Douglas
It's impossible. Like, it's impossible. It's impossible, right, bro, you don't want nobody tackling people low because it take away the ACL mcl. You don't want people going high because then they can custom. Now you don't want people to hip drop tackle. Eventually you might as well start putting out the flag and just say, take the flag off that guy back. And you see, they transferring that to, like, the Pro Bowl. I won't be surprised in a few years if they just like, you know what? Let's just take all of it out, and let's just do that.
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Richard Sherman
I wouldn't be surprised, especially with quarterbacks. I'm with you. I'm with you.
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Rasool Douglas
You can't touch a quarterback. You can't. Man, they like divas out there now.
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Richard Sherman
They.
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Rasool Douglas
And they know they can't get hit.
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Richard Sherman
And they know it.
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Rasool Douglas
They.
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Richard Sherman
They be sitting there anytime they get touched. They looking at the ref like you the ref.
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Rasool Douglas
Y ain't gonna stop. You ain't gonna say nothing.
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Richard Sherman
But we gonna talk about one of your teammates, because first off, I don't know how you as his veteran, letting him walk around with 47 on, but Christian Bford is playing some good football in that stank number. And I'm sorry, Christian, I mean this in the most complimentary way. It's gonna be hard for you to get any credit that you deserve until you. Until you get off the full set. But he.
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Rasool Douglas
But he know that, though. Like, it's not like he don't know that. He know that his number is like. But it's his number, and he feel like, you know, he want to make that number different. And I told him. I was like, man, that's good, because now you can't get out of it now, you know, like, you gotta say, you got to stick with it. That got to be your number for the rest of your life. But. But, bro, like, he. He's a. He's a good person. You know, he's a better person than football player. Like, he does. He does the right things. He don't really talk too much. He. He just work, you know, and every day he trying to be better, like, oh, asking to be coached, pushing himself at the practice. We out there for maybe 45 minutes every day at the practice, just getting work on stuff that we need or anything that we might have messed up on in practice, you know, and he just got that mentality like. Like I'm a dog and I gotta. I gotta play that way every time, you know, Just because I'm a. I'm a 10th round pick. You know what I mean? So that's, that's just how he played. But, man, he, he's a. He's a hell of a player. He's definitely having like all pro season for sure.
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Richard Sherman
No question. He is. He. He's. He. He freaking balling. He balling at a high level. Early in the season we had y'all, Miami, it might have been maybe first game and he might have had a pick six in the game, if I'm not mistaken.
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He picked Miami off.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah. And he. It was just a 4 7. And I think y'all had another dude out there in 4 8.
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Rasool Douglas
4 6.
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Richard Sherman
4 6, 4 6. That's what it was. And they both got picks. I think Bford had two and he. The other four six had one.
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Rasool Douglas
No, four six had two and B had one.
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Richard Sherman
Okay. Vice versa.
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Rasool Douglas
Yeah, vice versa. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [22:34]
Richard Sherman
They.
- [22:34]
Rasool Douglas
They both got them numbers. I don't know. I don't know. But I don't think they changing them either. They gonna keep them.
- [22:39]
Richard Sherman
Right, right. They gonna keep getting targeted. As long as they. They punishing them, though. Have there been any talks about an extension for you in Buffalo?
- [22:50]
Rasool Douglas
I think, I think they've been talking to my agent about it. They didn't really mention nothing to me yet, but I think they've been talking to my agent. I know last year, beginning of this year, the season, they was talking about it, that they wanted to get something done. But we'll see what's going on after the season. Probably right now I'm thinking bigger than. Yeah, this year I feel like we could do something good. So I'm just trying to put my all into that at the moment.
- [23:17]
Richard Sherman
As you should. And that's how it's supposed to be. I ain't trying to start nothing, but you're going to get what you deserve. I hope you get everything you deserve. And more talk about the Bills Mafia because they crazy you went From Green Bay, who got some really crazy fans and they own the team and all this other stuff and they really incredible passion fans. But then you got the Bills fans, and they. A whole different level of passion and energy and dedication. They come in the snow to plow the field for free.
- [23:47]
Rasool Douglas
I still don't understand that to this day. I don't understand that a billion dollar company got fans out there snowing. I don't, I don't, I don't understand it. But the fans, they love, they love the Bills, man. They'll. They'll do anything for the Bills. It's so much love with the fans. They be jumping off tables. They come to the game no shirt on, no nothing, and they just, they just love, they love Buffalo. They love everything about it. That's why, like, we got it. We got to give them something, you know, I mean, to love forever, man. Something, something big that they'll love forever. This city might blow up. I keep telling people, if we do it big this time next year, we're gonna be the Toronto Bills. It ain't gonna be no damn Buffalo no more. Buffalo will be gone. It's gonna be New York and then Toronto. That's it. It ain't gonna be nothing. The Giants and just don't gotta worry about nobody being better than in New York.
- [24:34]
Richard Sherman
It's just.
- [24:34]
Rasool Douglas
Is just going to be Toronto, Bill boy.
- [24:37]
Richard Sherman
They're going to be. They're going to be building statues of your boys.
- [24:40]
Rasool Douglas
I tell you. I tell you.
- [24:45]
Richard Sherman
Are you going. You know, if everything goes as is, it's not jinx nothing. Let's not say no crazy words. But if everything goes like you want it to, when your dreams come true and there's a trophy in Buffalo, you jump into a table.
- [24:57]
Rasool Douglas
I jumped on that table. I jump. I would have said, I let them pick my ass up and throw me. I, I jump out there with him. I'm telling you, I would. I don't care at this point. You a fool. You are season over. But I, I do whatever at that point.
- [25:15]
Richard Sherman
That's you too, funny man. Who was your, who was your favorite corner to, like, study growing up? You know, everybody got a different. You know, I. When you was coming up, it was probably, you know, they had the old heads in there, but Revis was probably in his prime at that point. Charles had just won defensive player of the year. Who, who were, who were the guys you were studying or trying to emulate or. If it was nobody, then it's nobody.
- [25:38]
Rasool Douglas
So I'll be honest. When I first Started playing football. A. Reed was like, my favorite player ever. So I always liked his game because I always liked him getting picks and never, like, falling, like, just running it, no matter if he's in the back of the end zone or anywhere, right? I grew up liking him. I like Charles. Charles Wilson was. I liked him a lot. And then, like, what I say, like, when I really started, like, playing football, and I actually was probably, like, my. My junior senior year was probably around 2012, 13, when I really start. Start getting there to like it, I would say, you, I appreciate it. I was like, it was you. Because I like that whole Seattle boom, the legend of boom y'all had going on and how you play. It just seemed like you always, like, knew where the ball was going, and then you got picks. Because some people were like, oh, what you count? You don't get picks. I'm like, bro, the best corners get picks. Like, that's just what they do. And this is what they do. I don't want to hear you got one pick and you saying, you the best. Like, there's. There's no way, bro. There's no way. So I. I always like that about you and you tackle. You know what I mean? Like, some people don't like tagging them. Like, so you just run out of my. Nah. Like, Sharon going, he gonna talk his jump. Like me. Like, I like that he talked. He gonna back it up. And I always think that I always like the most is, like, he gonna put all the lights on him, but he gonna perform. So it's like, you can say whatever you want about somebody when they talk and they got everybody watching like, oh.
- [26:56]
Richard Sherman
What do you do? What do you do?
- [26:56]
Rasool Douglas
What do you do? Then end of the game, you look, he got two picks, he got four tackles, and the PBU was like, what could you say? You know, what could you say, K Say nine. So I would say that y'all three for sure.
- [27:08]
Richard Sherman
I appreciate that, man. We put. We took a lot of pride in it. I mean, obviously, y'all taking a lot of pride in. And y'all got a really good system in McDermott, and y'all really trust the scheme, but that's just what we was doing. You know, we had a really good scheme. Even though when you know the weaknesses of it and everybody know what you're going to be in, y'all can't beat us because we going to play it really well. We going to execute, and we smacking y'all when y'all touch it. And we practice hard as ever. You know, and that's why you come out to practice. You won't. I think people would be more impressed by us if they came to practice and they was in the game because boys is out there like wolves, like you would think. Every one of us is practice squad, trying to make the team.
- [27:44]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah. And that's the best thing. Everybody competing.
- [27:47]
Richard Sherman
Right. It led to the organization getting fined and losing draft picks sometimes. But that's their fault.
- [27:54]
Rasool Douglas
They got enough money. They can handle that.
- [27:55]
Richard Sherman
They can handle it. Y'all told us to practice hard, give us the off season off. Then if y'all don't want to deal with this.
- [28:03]
Rasool Douglas
No OTAs, no nothing. Just put a little bit of cat. That's it.
- [28:06]
Richard Sherman
That's it. Look, if y'all don't want to get fined about us, be it practicing too hard and getting too physical, then go ahead and send us home and we'll happily go on vacation. But if you put us on this.
- [28:14]
Rasool Douglas
Grass, you got, that's how it's supposed to be.
- [28:20]
Richard Sherman
Who's been the toughest receiver to go against for you so far this year, period? Just overall, I mean, you saw AJ Late, but AJ Was special, man.
- [28:31]
Rasool Douglas
I know. I remember watching him a little bit when he was with Sissy. He was cold. But I still think when I first Julio, crazy. Oh, my. Like, I used to be mad going home. I'm like, bro, how you this fast? You. And stopping on 12 steps, like. Like, just running full speed. 25 yards out, 25 yard curls. I'm like, bro, you know, after. After 15 yards, I'm ready. I'm running to the goal post. It got to be in the air. He. I'm like, oh, man, no knees. But he. He always was like, I say, like, the toughest him. He was tough. Tape. Tay was tough. Monty Adams, he was tough guarding because.
- [29:11]
Richard Sherman
Tay is just so at the line, so lateral.
- [29:14]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah, bro, Everything just. Look, it looked the same. It's a skip.
- [29:18]
Richard Sherman
Ah, look.
- [29:18]
Rasool Douglas
Slant. Oh, it ain't a slant no more. And then he give you that little bird, like, take out a burst, you know, I mean, like, he not fast, like long, long speed, but he got a burst. And that's all he need is 12 yards. And you throw it right over his face. He lay handed and there's nothing you can do. So like that, that's what. He killed everybody, the line and that little burst. And you could.
- [29:35]
Richard Sherman
You.
- [29:36]
Rasool Douglas
You trying to play his speed where you slowing down and that's, you know, he burst on you. It's like, oh, I Wasn't ready to run yet. Now you got to try to. Then he gets you every time. But them two was tough. I always say Tyreek hard to guard because he said, he's just so fast.
- [29:49]
Richard Sherman
If you miss him, it's over.
- [29:51]
Rasool Douglas
It's over. And, you know, I mean, you never want to get into a track with him. You know what I mean? So him, I. I like. I like Calvin. I like Calvin Ridley, I think. I think he's a. He's a good route runner, too, right? Every time he go routes, I'll be like, his route.
- [30:03]
Richard Sherman
She's nice, right? Did you see what Snead did to him in the playoff slash? When you familiar with somebody, it give you a whole different.
- [30:10]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah, it's different. Those practice vibes in the game, like, right? Yeah. But, yeah, I seen that boy.
- [30:16]
Richard Sherman
That boy Sneed was up there practically like. Like, hey, I. I told you, if we ever see each other in a.
- [30:21]
Rasool Douglas
Game, yeah, I'm gonna get you up. I was like, damn. Watching that one.
- [30:26]
Richard Sherman
Damn.
- [30:27]
Rasool Douglas
He had it out. He had it out for them, though. He did it this year, too. He was doing the same thing when they played Miami this year. He was. He was doing that same exact thing.
- [30:33]
Richard Sherman
I was like, he can play. He just. He just about to get buried. He wouldn't get his. Got his money in Tennessee, but he ain't. He ain't never gonna get the credit he deserved no more because you in Tennessee, unfortunately.
- [30:42]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah. You know how Tennessee is. Everybody go over there, and they just. They kind of just look different.
- [30:46]
Richard Sherman
They look different. I mean, he. He got his money, though. I'm happy for anybody getting their money.
- [30:50]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah, we need that. And what. Tennessee don't got no taxes over there.
- [30:54]
Richard Sherman
I don't think they do. You're right.
- [30:56]
Rasool Douglas
That's good for him.
- [30:59]
Richard Sherman
Need it all. Need it all. Big fan of your game, man. I appreciate you coming on. Appreciate you taking the time. I know. I'm happy to see you balling. Happy to see your team balling. Even if they beat my former teams, you know, after a while, I want everybody to get their ring.
- [31:14]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah.
- [31:15]
Richard Sherman
Yeah, Sometimes that's.
- [31:16]
Rasool Douglas
Cause you got yours already.
- [31:17]
Richard Sherman
You like, man. But, boy, I tell you what, it ain't nothing worse than losing one. So that's. That'll be my. My little advice to you.
- [31:26]
Rasool Douglas
Y'all get that name that your meme will always be there. That face you made when you seen them throw that pit.
- [31:30]
Richard Sherman
I'm down because I was damn shocking off. That was shocking. All I said, wait a minute. What Just happened.
- [31:39]
Rasool Douglas
That's one thing I never understand. I always like, you know, people always ask you with sports rig, and you always be like, nah, I'm out there giving them my all. And then you see something like that and you be like, it might be a little bit. You know, it might be just a little bit.
- [31:52]
Richard Sherman
Look, well, clearly I wasn't in on the rigging. I didn't know they need a strip. That locker room after that game, boy, it was some furniture moving in there because it did not make sense. Boy, boys. Boys play too hard and shit. I lost that one and we lost the one in my homes now in Miami.
- [32:10]
Rasool Douglas
Yeah. Yep.
- [32:12]
Richard Sherman
Well, I tell you, the win felt good. Win is great. You get to ring and everything. But the loss hurt more than win feel good. So if you ever get a chance to play in that game, try your best to impose that. That understanding into your teammates that, hey, you will never forget yourself. Like, I don't give a damn if you did one thing where you went out and had one drink that week, or you are you freaking stayed up two hours later or you did whatever, you going to be going back and second guessing everything you did going up into that game because you get two weeks. So boys want to stay in routine and stay in a thing, but once you get to the super bowl week, it's a whole different thing. There's so much media, there's so much anything and depending on the city, you and we in New Orleans this year, so it's some stuff to do and boys, boys, food to eat. It's people to see, and everybody want to get a piece of you and do appearances. And if that's not what you normally do, then you probably should stay away from it. But it's like, for a week, keep your behind still. Because my team in San Francisco, that's exactly what I told the young boys. We get there, they go out the first night we get there to Miami, and I'm like, bro, like, y'all don't get it. Like, y'all. Y'all went out like. Like, maybe we win this game and y'all don't learn the lesson, but we lose, you're gonna be sitting there like, was it because I went out? You know, was it because I was partying and drinking and hanging out? Like, maybe, like. But you don't even give yourself the chance to figure that out. If you go out there and make that decision, like, if you win a Super bowl, it sticks with you for the rest of your life. If you lose, it does the same thing in the worst way. Sick. Sick. But I know it's your off day and I appreciate you you joining me.
- [33:49]
Rasool Douglas
And spend some time with me for having me, man.
- [33:52]
Richard Sherman
Yeah man. You. You you're a heck of a player. And if you ever need anything, take my number and and we'll stay in contact. I'll send you my little two cents. If I if I see him call some BS on you or I see.
- [34:02]
Rasool Douglas
You get a crazy, let me know. Let me know.
- [34:05]
Richard Sherman
I'll let you know what I see.
- [34:06]
Rasool Douglas
Yes sir. I appreciate you.
- [34:07]
Richard Sherman
Appreciate you.
- [34:27]
Rasool Douglas
The volume.
- [34:31]
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