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Richard Sherman
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast and I just want to say this. In 2026, my New Year's resolution is to give you outstanding content, but I want you to be able to see it. So please hit that sub button. Do me a favor. I want your comments, I want your concerns. I want to hear from you because I want to be the best in this field and give you one what you're looking for every single time. So please join your boy week in and week out because I'm bringing it as best as I can. All love. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast, Mitchell. And today, Black Monday. We got to talk about these firings and potential hirings. Oh, these Raiders. These Raiders, Mitchell, I look, they can't get enough of of of a bad thing. They love paying people that don't play for them, don't coach for them. And I know Mark Davis and I can't wait to talk to him about this because I don't know many people that pay as much as he does for people not working for him anymore. But you know, those are the kind of relationships he has. And I, I don't know if I want to be a part of that. But some of these are really good jobs. I think the Atlanta Falcons is a good job. I think there can be an argument for the Arizona Cardinals job for somebody. Not me, not me per se, but the Tennessee Titans.
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Mitchell
Richard, I'll say this. Pete Carroll, talk about a heck of a retirement plan for him, man. Goes over coaches one year with the Raiders, makes his earnings that year and gets a cool $16 million to set out into retirement. Man. Let's get into some of these. Your guy Pete Carroll fired after one year by the Raiders. Kevin Stefanski gets kicked to the curb. Jonath Gannon fired by the Cardinals. Raheem Morris by the Falcons. Brian Callahan obviously in season by the Titans. Day ball in season by the Giants. Richard, before we get into the nuts and bolts of each one of these openings, which, what is your favorite opening? If you were a head coach, who would you, which team would you most want to land at?
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Richard Sherman
If I was a coach, I'd probably want to land either with the Falcons or the Giants. I just feel like the Falcons have a lot of weapons offensively. We could talk about Bajan Robinson. We could talk about the guys Pierce and the guys they have defensively that they drafted this year. I think this was a fantastically underrated draft class that they had the quarterback situation. You're going to need to bring in a veteran. Is Penck going to be the guy who knows? Thank goodness you guys kept Kirk Cousins. He, he played really well in some of those G games and gave him a chance to win those games at the end. And I thought they did enough to same Raheem Morris's job, but obviously not. And the one thing I do like about this is that they, they didn't just blame Raheem Morris because I don't think it was on him. I think he deserves another deserv year. I thought his team was fighting for him. They hadn't given up on him. They were ready to go into next season with some momentum. Winning that last game of the season and you fired a coach. I thought, I don't think that's the right decision. But you fired Terry Fonteno and I think the reason you fired Terry Fonto is what we talked about. One of the most head scratching moves in the NFL in a number of years was you pay Kirk Cousins 50 million coming off an Achilles injury and then you draft a quarterback in the top 10. A move that doesn't make sense in terms of roster building. Now, there were some other moves that he made that made a lot of sense. That this draft class I thought would have been enough to save his job, but that the quarterback is such an important position and he's. And he tied up so much money in Kirk Cousins and so much draft capital at the same position that if it doesn't work out, it's going to cost you your job. And I'd said that when, when it first initially happened and look, look what happened. It didn't work out. He got fired. And you get your head coach fired. And I think that's the most frustrating part for me is you get Raheem Morris fired and it's not necessarily his decision, but I have to live with the decisions a GM makes. That's why I don't think a lot of coaches are going to be excited about this Giants job. Because, I mean, Joe Shane, you're not going to go into that job trusting that he's going to make the right decisions. He has. He's made some good decisions, he's made some obvious decisions. And guys, you got to draft, but letting Saquon Barkley walk and, and just all the, the footage of surrounding it, it's going to be a bad look for years to come. And any coach coming in, there aren't many established coaches that are going to come in and be like, so he's, he's making all the decisions, he's making all the calls. I don't have any say. So, no, I'm not taking this job. And so it's going to limit their field. So I'm interested to see how that coaching search goes because I can't see an established coach saying, hey, I'm going to go in here and yeah, this, this hierarchy works for me. Maybe a young, desperate coach, but not, not a great one.
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Mitchell
What is your least favorite job opening? Because obviously there's a couple that stand out. The Titans, the Browns, the Raiders, obviously a couple franchises that have been dealing with internal battles. You know, you got a lot of questions in Cleveland with who's going to be the quarterback? Is it Shador? Do they go a different direction? Do they keep doing Dylan Gabriel and have a QB competition? The Raiders, which are a complete mess, they're turning through coaches like it's nothing. And then obviously the Titans, I mean, ever since they fired Mike Vrabel, got rid of A.J. brown, Derrick Henry, the franchise has been in the dumps. But let's talk about this Las Vegas Raiders because I have a feeling you're going to go that direction. Richard, your thoughts on your boy Pete Carroll getting dumped after one season? I mean, we knew it wasn't going to be a long term hire for them with, given his age. But did you see this coming after one season?
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Richard Sherman
I didn't see it coming. And, and the reason I didn't see it coming because I, I didn't think they would be that impatient. Like, sure, this was a rough year. Obviously Chip Kelly wasn't the guy they thought he was. He, I didn't think he was the guy for the job when they first hired him. He's shown that his system doesn't necessarily work in the National Football League. It works in college and it works well in college and, and that should be celebrated, but it does not work in the National Football League. So it's odd that Pete would have hired him when he's played him. We've played as an opponent and we've had a lot of success against that, that system. So I thought they would give him another chance another year to, to continue to establish the culture. Also knowing that they're paying other coaches, your previous coaches a lot of money and now you add another coach to that, they're paying Now Antonio Pierce $8 million, Josh McDaniel $10 million, John Gruden $10 million, Pete Carroll $16 million and Chip Kelly 6. Who signs up for that? Like, you don't. You don't. That's why you don't fire if, if nothing else, you don't fire him because you don't want to be paying another coach to not coach for your team. And I think that's the thing, the issue that I have with all of this is what are you guys doing? How do you think anybody's ever going to have success with this if you don't give them more than a year? And it just looks like malpractice in terms of running an organization in every way. Because sure, if you keep Pete, you're going to have some, some grumblings and rumblings the all season about, hey, is he the right guy, is he going to hire the right coordinator? But there's so much impatience in this world. It's such a microwave society. Hey, we, we don't get wins right now. We need to change. That has not worked for you. That didn't work when you fire McDaniels. It didn't work when you fired Pierce. It didn't work when you fired Pete Carroll. It's not going to Work, stick with somebody. Right, wrong or indifferent. Give them a few years to figure it out. And if you're not giving Pete care, like after a while it seems like it's you, Mitchell. It seems like it's you. When it keeps happening and you keep firing guys, then it might be a Raiders problem and less of a coach's problem. Like it's a reason why you keep doing it and you're not going to have success doing that. I think that's a lot of what's wrong in today's society that hey, things don't work out immediately. Players don't work out immediately. Cut them, fire them, transfer. Like I'm uncomfortable. Like be comfortable and uncomfortable. There's so many things that, that have become great because guys were patient and they worked on it and they grinded at it, they stayed at it. If you gave up every time something didn't work out immediately, Mitchell, we wouldn't have anything in this world. Let me tell you about Ready or Not, the tactical first person shooter where you take command of a SWAT team and feel the weight of the badge. Recently, I reunited with my legion of Boom teammates, Cliff Averill, Cam Chancer, Michael Bennett and Walter Thurman. We partnered with Ready or Not to go through actual SWAT training and film the whole experience. Watch it now at the Richard Sherman Podcast YouTube channel. Here's what makes this game different. It's not just mindless run and gun. Just like the Legion of Boom built an elite defense on strategy and teamwork. Ready or not demands the same mentality. You're commanding a SWAT team, clearing rooms, protecting civilians, making tactical calls as a coordinated team with 18 missions that challenge you in completely different ways. Every operation demands that same discipline and and teamwork. Best part, try it for free for a limited time on PlayStation and Xbox. Go solo or squad up with five players in full crossplay support. If you want strategic high stakes action that rewards elite tactics and fast thinking, then this is the game for you. Try Ready or Not for free today on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.
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Mitchell
And S. You know what Richard? I appreciate that rant because we're seeing it right now. This week is a transfer portal is open in the college football world and there's 4, 000 players in the transfer portal. They said that 33% of college football players are in this portal and from what I saw it was like only 60 or 40 of those players will end up playing D1 football next year. I mean it's absurd. Richard. I know this is a NFL podcast and we only Talk NFL, but you got to talk to me about this college football transfer portal, because to me it's getting outrageous. I saw a kid is getting paid, I believe he's from Cincy, getting paid to go to Texas Tech, making something like $5 million. Next year he's gonna get paid more than a first round draft pick would. How ridiculous do you think this is? Or do you like this new era of college football?
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Richard Sherman
I like that I like them getting paid. I don't like them chasing the money. I don't like people being able to transfer after one year because you're uncomfortable, because you didn't get the starting job that you didn't deserve. I don't like kids just saying, hey, I don't want to have to fight for anything. And if you're not going to just give it to me on a silver platter, I'm walking away like, what does that build, what does that build in these young men? And that's why I like what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos did. Because this last draft they said, hey, we're not drafting guys that transfer. We're drafting guys that played over 40 games for their, for their respective teams. And they stayed put and they fought through it. Hey, they got through what they need to get through. Because in the National Football League, you're not going anywhere for three, four years. Not good players. If you're a good player, great player, all pro player, you're probably not leaving. You're not leaving for five, six, seven years. You're going to see a couple contracts. If you're really great. And if you're telling me every guy we draft, nobody stayed anywhere more than two years, three years, then how can we expect them to stay here that long? How can we expect to be able to keep them occupied? And so I think it's creating a problem in the National Football League. But you also give credit. The Denver Broncos are drafting, right, developing, right. And look at them. Number one seed in the AFC with a very young team, young quarterback. Obviously, Bo Nix is a different story. He drafted Bo Nix and he transferred and played about 12 years in college. So clearly the, the draft strategy has, has it, it is adjusted and, and evolved. But I think there has to be some kind of rule, like back in my day, you know, feeling like, oh, guy in the packed in, you couldn't transfer without sitting out a year. And it deterred a lot of that. You could not sit you. If you transferred, you're sitting out a year. And if they put a rule like that, hey, if you Transferred. You can't transfer again for a year. I think it would change the entire portal if they said, hey, if you transfer, you got to stay for at least a year, at least two years. I think it changes the whole game. And, and if they. They're gonna have to do something to fix it because this is giving guys too much of an easy way out. And then some guys are leaving college and never coming back. They're never getting picked back up. You think the grass is greener and then you end up without grass. You're on the streets, concrete asphalt under your feet, nowhere to go. Now you're looking dumb trying to call back your old school man, I want that old thing back but they don't want you filled your spot, baby. Like that's the world we living in. Kids, don't be so quick to go nowhere. Cause you might end up nowhere.
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Mitchell
Preach, Richard, preach. They need you on a soapbox somewhere, Richard. I'm with you, man. I see these kids transferring and every day you just got to wonder, what do they think? Grass is not always greener on the other side. What happened to the days of old where you're. You're staying in school three years, you know, you're a red shirt junior, and you're finally starting. Like, that's when the DNA of these teams really starts to take over. It's, It's a shame because I think the, the true college sports and the, the pride of being an alumni of these universities getting sucked away when you're rooting for guys that you don't even know year and year out. But that's enough on that topic. Let's get back to Pete Carroll. Richard, let's. We talked about it last year before he got hired on with the Raiders when he was let go by the Seahawks. What do you think's next for him? I got a proposition for you, Richard. You need an in week co host and I would love nothing more than to have Pete Carroll be your inweek co host. You guys, we love you guys. We love our listeners, our subscribers. If we can please get it some bandwagon, some momentum behind getting Pete on this podcast routinely. Richard, that's, that's me putting my, my, my voice out there for this to happen.
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Richard Sherman
Hey, I would love for that to happen. He's a great football mind, a great football human, a person that loves the game and, and has been with this game and part of this game for a very long time. I would love to be a part of him, be a part of this show and, and continuing to educate the fans about what's going on in this league, his thoughts, and I'm sure he would have something to say about how things shook out in Seattle and with the Raiders. So I bring my bottom for that.
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Mitchell
Before we leave the Raiders, Richard, there's one other question. Max Crosby was a little ticked off, to say the least, that they did not let him play in the last game. In fact, he walked out of practice. Do you think the time is up for Max Crosby in Las Vegas? Especially seeing what we're seeing with Miles Garrett in Cleveland? You know, I know the guy's going to get paid. He's already gotten paid. I know he's going to get paid a lot more. But if something tells me Max wants to win. Do you think it would make sense for the Raiders to trade Max Crosby, given the state of their franchise right now?
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Richard Sherman
It would make a lot of sense. I don't think Max Crosby is going to go. He's the quintessential Raider from. From the heart. He's what they desire. When you talk about a Raider, Al Davis would be very proud that he's a Raider. And so I don't think he's going anywhere. He doesn't want to go anywhere and they don't want to trade him. So I don't think that's much of a talking point. He's frustrated because he's a ball player, a true old school guy. I want to play every snap. I don't. I don't. He's not a guy who would take rest days. Mitchell. He doesn't seem like a guy. If he was in the NBA where he's taking the vet days and he's taking the rest days. Oh, back to back. I'm playing Every. He's playing 82, so I think that's just his personality, but I don't think he's going anywhere. I think cooler heads will prevail. He'll be a Raider, Richard, you know.
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Mitchell
You know where he went to college?
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Richard Sherman
Where'd he go, Mitchell?
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Mitchell
In my home state, Eastern Michigan University, man. He was. He was an Eagle from Eastern Michigan University. And, you know, he donated so much money to the school that they named the field after him. So that goes to show you the type of player that he is. He played in the Mac. He. He rose above everything, all this adversity. Unfortunately, my Detroit Lions did not recognize the talent in their own backyard. But kudos to the Raiders, man, because he's a hell of a football player, someone I would love to have on my team. No Question about it. Let's turn the page to the Cleveland Browns. Kevin Stefanski, two time coach of the year gets the boot in Cleveland. A lot of people saw this coming. Who do you think's happier, Cleveland fans to see him go or Kevin Stefanski to get the heck out of there?
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Richard Sherman
It's probably, it's probably mutual. Mitchell. This is one of those mutual partings where I think the, it had run its course. This was not a microwave decision. They gave him time, multiple coaches of the year. He did some good things in Cleveland. I think both sides can walk away saying, hey, it didn't go exactly like we planned, but we had some good times. Remember our good times. We'll hug and we'll walk away. Cleveland's a tough place to win. You, you can tell by the record in the history of the franchise, it's a tough place to win. You can tell because people, because Bill Belichick felt like it was where he should send his players when he didn't want them anywhere. It's a tough place to win. And so, but they do have talent. They have a talented defense. They gave everybody hell. And you can see Denzel Ward, he wants Jim Schwarz to be the head coach because they, he, they have played great defense. I don't care. Every offense that walked in there to Cleveland would, would tell you and give them a lot of respect. It's a tough out now. Offensively we'll be, be, be nice and say they're figuring it out. They got to figure out who the quarterback's going to be, what the system's going to be, what the identity is going to be. But they got judicial. I think he's a good player. I think Fanning's a good player. I thought Shador showed some flashes. I think they still got really good offensive linemen and they can always use more. You can never have too many good offensive linemen. But yeah, I'm not sure I think Shador should be the starter going into the season, but it's clear that they're going to change a lot of things going forward. So we'll see if the next coach feels the same way.
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Mitchell
And you already, you already touched on the Falcons and you listed them as one of your favorite spots. But Terry Fontenot and I know we talked about it briefly, but going back to that head scratching decision with Kurt Cousins being signed and then ultimately drafting Michael Penck Jr. You know that's got to be the Achilles heel that finally snapped with this relationship. Seeing what this season came down to. There's A lot of weapons in Atlanta. And like you said, this team, they technically tied for first in their division. Richard. The NFC south, one of the best divisions in football. They tied for first man. So you know, we got to see what happens in Atlanta. I agree with you. I think that's the best spot for any aspiring head coach. But what do you think about these? That Arizona Cardinals, you know, that was one that I was more surprised to see. I know Gannon didn't have the best run there, but I mean he obviously dealing with Kyler Murray, that's not a hand that he was necessarily happy to be dealt and especially with that injuries there. But do you like Arizona's chances? Do you like that position at all for a head coach?
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Richard Sherman
I'm going to address that in a second, but you all right, Mitchell?
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Mitchell
I'm good. What did I say?
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Richard Sherman
You just called the NFC style one of the best divisions in football. So I just wanted to make sure. What you got in your cup over there, Mitchell? What?
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Mitchell
Hey, I'm drinking some spot. I'm drinking some sparkling water, Richard. But I stand by that man. The NFC south, this is the first team, the first division have three, you know, first place teams technically if you think about it. So I'll let you think about that.
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Richard Sherman
Some places in Mitchell, first place and last place don't look that much different. But that's the story for a different day and a different night in a different fight. But Arizona Cardinals job is not a job I would want either. They're trying to figure out how to get out of Kyler Murray's contract. They found a very creative way to tell him to sit, sit down and go home. The offense runs better when you're not here. So what do you do when a new coach comes in? Kyler Murray's still under contract. He's going to expect to come back. You drafted Marvin Harrison really high, so you hold him in high regard. But Michael Wilson is the best receiver on that, that football team. And so there's so many things that are issues with that team. A lot of talent. I think there, there's talent on both sides of the football. But the way things are perceived by the outside world versus the actual on the field, who's the best player? Like you need to draft a quarterback you clearly can't win with Kyler. Like Kyler's had some good games. He's had some success in the National Football League. Is he the answer in Arizona? I don't think so. And it's for a number of reasons. But I also Think forcing the ball to Marvin Harrison Jr. When you have better receivers on the football field is also an issue, but you have to force it to him because you drafted him so high. So I think so many things like that are going to have to be an issue. So you got to get a coach with a pedigree and with his own resume to be able to come in here and say, hey, best men play. And we're throwing the ball to whoever is the most effective on this football field, and then we can play. Maybe Marvin Harrison becomes the best receiver out there for that team, but he's not right now, so it's not a job I would sign up for. The NFC west is really tough football. You got two of the best coaches in the national football league there. Three of the best coaches, honestly. And Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDonald, Sean McVeigh, you stepping in the murderers row.
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Mitchell
In terms of Kyler Murray, do you think he's a guy that there would be a market for if they opened up a trade for him?
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Richard Sherman
I'm sure there would be a market for him somewhere because he, He's. He's a serviceable NFL quarterback. I think he can start, he can win some games, he's exciting, he's dynamic with the ball in his hands, but he's also shown a propensity to. To lack the leadership that you expect at the position. There's been concerns about his preparation, going into games and things like that, and question marks that he'd have to answer for another. For another organization. But I'm sure right now, if the jets don't get the guy they want in a draft, I mean, some of the guys they put at quarterback this year, I don't know, are starting for the JV team out in Texas, but, you know, whatever.
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Mitchell
And before we leave this subject, Richard, who are some of the. The. The guys to keep an eye on here, like the perspective, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators that we vying for these head coaching positions?
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Richard Sherman
My guy, Jeff Hley is going to be a name that gets a lot of love. La Flor, Mike LaFlor. Not the Matt Laur that you guys all love in Green Bay. It's gonna be Weaver out of Miami. Stefan's gonna get some love. He's gonna get some. Some conversations. No question about that. Chris Shula out In. Out in la. I'm missing. I'm missing. Who am I missing? I saw Matt Nagy's getting an interview. I'm not 100% sure about that, but he's getting an interview dayborough will get interviews. I'm missing some of these offensive minds. Help me out here.
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Mitchell
You think Robert Salah gets another look at all, Richard?
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Richard Sherman
Oh, Salah would definitely get a look. I think he'll. He'll get a look, but he'll be very selective with where he goes. He has his. He has his eyes on certain places, and I'm sure he could be very selective. We'll say with Kubiak. Yep. Clint Kubiak's getting interviews out of Seattle, so there's a number of guys that. That really have a chance. And we'll see. Everybody wants the next offensive genius. Everybody wants the next great offensive mind, and we'll see how that works out. Oh, Flores. Flores is getting a lot of. A lot of love, a lot of attention. We're hearing his name in a lot of places, so we'll see. Maybe. Maybe Flores gets the. The Raiders job and turns them into a defensive juggernaut and have some fun.
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Mitchell
Well, Richard, a sad day for a lot of former head coaches, but, you know, exciting times, I guess, for all these teams looking for new head coaches. It kicks off Black Monday, as they call it. Richard, it's been a heck of a time talking about this with you. I will let you sign us off, my friend.
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Richard Sherman
As always, we appreciate you guys joining us. You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us, and we surely do appreciate it. We'll see you next time for this playoff preview. It's going to be a lot of fun to talk about these teams. Can't wait. Hit that sub button if you're new. Ready or not is the tactical first person shooter, where you take command of a SWAT team and every decision matters. I reunited with my legion of Boom teammates, Cam Chancellor, Cliff Favreau, Michael Bennett, and Walter Thurman to go through real SWAT training and see why over 13 million players are into this game. Watch our training now at Richard Sherman Podcast YouTube channel. This isn't mindless running Gun. The game demands elite teamwork and sharp, strategic thinking. Just like what the legion of Boom brought to the field every single game. Try the limited time free trial on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X and S. Play now and feel the weight of the badge.
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