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Richard Sherman
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast. And you know, we don't usually do a Monday night recap, but this was a special occasion. The Detroit Lions beat the Baltimore Ravens. They went into Baltimore, handled business. Mitchell, I'm gonna leave it up to you, baby.
Mitchell (Co-host)
Richard, I. I appreciate it, man. You. You got me off the couch and got me onto this podcast and you motivated me, man. I was going into this game a little nervous. I Told you about this. Going into this game, freaked out. I thought we were going to get dog walked in Baltimore like we did last time. 38 to 6 Detroit. It's a different breed of the Detroit Lions this time around. Holy cow, did they calm the nerves of all Detroiters. And I think they put the national landscape of the NFL on notice that this team is truly here to stay as a Super bowl contender. Richard, how did this happen?
Richard Sherman
Mitchell? They came to play and Dan Campbell came so prepared to open up the bag of tricks. I mean, you would have thought this was last year and somebody else was at the helm of this, of this offense, but it wasn't. It's new offensive coordinator Johnny Morton. I, I mean, you, you saw the option. I mean, every fourth and one, you knew what it was. If you're the Baltimore Ravens defense, you're like, God, 4th and 1, 4th and 2. You know, these guys are going for it. And they executed so well. The option play from Amon Ron St. Brown to Jamir Gibbs was masterful. The fourth and two up seven in the fourth quarter, insert play that they were setting up, they ran three or four actions off of it. Then they finally got one sent Amon raw on a corner. Route play action. Jared Golf delivered a beautiful pass. It didn't matter either way because it was a, it was a holding call on Marlon Humphreys anyways. So at that point it was, it was all cake. But talk about David Montgomery. David Montgomery absolutely took over this game. His 72 yard run was the, Was the moment I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't you hear me, baby? It's gonna be all right. We don't wanna. Mitchell. It started to go and you started to say, hey, this ain't the same old Detroit Lions. This ain't the Detroit Lions that got blown out and boat race by the Baltimore Raven. They got something on their mind. Dan Campbell had something on his mind. And then let's go to the other side of the ball really quickly because it was like Oprah out there. Oprah must have been in Baltimore, Mitchell, because they were giving out sex. I've never, I don't know if I've ever seen Lamar Jackson under duress like he was this game. They were containing him. They were, they were tackling him, they were sacking, they were hitting him. They were punishing him. They, they were punishing Derrick Henry. That goal line stand was incredible. That goal line stand to have Derek Henry first and goal. They got, they had four shots at it from about the two or three yard Line and the Detroit defense stood up. Not only stood up, but almost forced a, a turnover on Lamar Jackson. On that rollout play. They, they forced the fumble. You know, it was a bit of a scrum, but it was a stop. It was a turnover on downs. I was like oh my God, this defense is showing up. It's, it's been a weakness for so long. We've always talked about what is Detroit going to do, who are they going to pick up, who are they going to trade to, to to really solidify this pass rush. Little did we know, Mitchell, the answer was right there. Who was it?
Mitchell (Co-host)
It's Al Quadin, Muhammad, Richard. Two and a half sacks from Al Quadim Muhammad and a lot of, a lot of the Detroit fan base was up in arms as a Darius Smith went and signed with the Philadelphia Eagles. They all wanted him back in Detroit and he was a great player here for a short lived period of time. But this, this, this team, Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell kept faith in the guys that they had in house. I know they liked Al Quadi Muhammad. This is a, a guy 30 years old. You know, he's been a relative journeyman in the league and now he's been given his true opportunity here. Lining up opposite of Aiden Hutchinson and wreaking havoc on Lamar Jackson all night. You saw from him, you saw it from Derrick Barnes, you saw pressure from Alex Anzalone. Obviously Aiden Hutchinson got in on a couple plays. DJ Reader made a huge shoestring tackle. I mean this defensive line really stepped up and this was the defensive line won them this game in my opinion. And also that front seven linebacking core. And then you look at the opportunities that they missed. Richard, I mean they won by eight. They could have won this game by 15, 20. But Brian Branch, you know, drop dropped interception and obviously DJ Reed dropped one in the end zone as well. But all in all, I mean this team played a football and they're going to beat a lot of teams playing like this, Richard. But it is so impressive for them to go on the road and beat this Baltimore Raven team. That is what they 27 and 2 Lamar Jackson is against. The NFC will make it 27 and 3. The Detroit alliance just put the entire league on notice. The they are super bowl contenders.
Richard Sherman
I think it was 24 and two now he's 24 and three and and obviously this was a beating. They dismantled them. But let's talk about the stack. Jack Campbell got a sack. Derek Barnes got a sack. Muhammad like you said had two and a half. Anzalone Got in on it with a half a sack. But your guy, Aiden Hutchinson got a sack. Nowaski got a sack. Seven sacks on the day. That's dominant. That's dominant. And you talk about losing both coordinators and to get a performance like that. There, there was a lot of concern after losing the Green Bay, and rightfully so, but it's a division opponent, division game. They were well prepared, they were raring on all cylinders. You kind of got hit in the mouth. It was one of those games that things just didn't go your way. But since then, this Detroit team looks like the Detroit team. We have, we have grown to know a dominant, physical, really, really gritty, blue collar football team. And they're just wearing that Honolulu blue. They look really, really, really good. I, I'm gonna have a hard time not moving around my top five and putting the Detroit lines somewhere in there. Mitchell. I don't know where they're going to be, but I, it's, it's hard to keep them out. The Baltimore Ravens, they're one and two now. You got to go, you got to go, you must go. You don't got to go home, but you got to get out of here until you can figure it out. That's what I got to say. And Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry fumbling again in the fourth quarter of a huge game. They played three games this season. He fumbled in the fourth quarter in two of them in critical situations. Aiden Hutchinson made a heck of a play. DJ Reed recovered it, but that's starting to become a concern for this team because he's not a guy who's fumbled in these situations. I mean, in the past, he's usually been pretty reliable. And over the last couple games, they've found a way to, to, to stuff Derrick Henry and stop him. So that's a concern for the Baltimore Ravens. They're not, I, I can't say they're stopping. Lamar Jackson, he threw for 288 on 21 of 27 passing and three touchdowns. But it wasn't enough today. It wasn't enough today. And that defense to give up 38 points again. Jared Goff deserves a ton of credit. There were four rushing touchdowns, but he did a great, a masterful job of, of just pushing his offense down the field, you know, controlling the game, understanding, not putting the ball in harm's way, taking it, taking what, what the defense gives him. You know, there were probably a couple of times he probably could have, could have got a first down with his legs, but he, he tried to throw it out and that didn't work out. But I think this gives the one pride, a lot of hope. This gives the Detroit fans a lot of hope. All is not lost. There is hope in Detroit and there should be super bowl dreams. Mitchell.
Mitchell (Co-host)
I'm dreaming, Richard. And I think that dream, they play like this, it might turn into a reality. Obviously, there's a lot of season left. Richard. Let's talk about the Detroit Lions DNA of going for it. Like you said, they're a tough, gritty team that you fully expect. Dan Campbell, 4th and 2, up 24 to 30, up 31 to 24 with two minutes left in this game, coming out of the two minute warning and in the back of your mind, they're going for it at midfield. I mean, break down the play because we talked about it off air and break down exactly what's going on with Marlon Humphrey and that situation, the situation that Johnny Morton and Aman Ross St. Brown and Jared Goff and Jameer Gibbs put Marlon Humphrey in. How do you play that if you're in his position?
Richard Sherman
It's a conundrum. You put the, the corner, Marlon Humphreys in a no win situation because if they run the ball at you, you have to show up in the run game. You're. It's down, down, down and the ball goes to you. So it's, it's really the offense saying, hey, we're going to isolate the corner in the run game and we're going to make him tackle the running back. But at the same time, you have to keep your, you have to be popeyed. Mitchell. You got to see that receiver in your peripheral because if he takes off, you got to cover him too. Now if you turn your back and cover him and they run the football, they're out the gates and nobody's there. And so it's a really great play from the Detroit Lions and Johnny Morton. It's a play that I had to deal with when I was in San Francisco in 19. The Cincinnati Bengals ran it right near the goal line and it put me in a bad situation because I went to cover the route. They play action, they ran the ball. It's a touchdown. Like you're danged if you do, danged if you don't. Because if you, if you go down to stop the run, he's wide open. If you go to stop the pass, the runs there. So you got to just guess it right. And Marlon Humphrey guessed wrong and then tried to grab him. Got the holding call. Masterful game plan by Dan Campbell and Johnny Morton. They they came in with a great plan to come into Baltimore and win that way. Woo.
Mitchell (Co-host)
And they got it.
Richard Sherman
That's a confidence builder for this team and I can't wait to, to to see what they do next. I mean, they got to be feeling really, really good. Everybody should be feeling good because this was a quality win against a quality opponent that a lot of people have going to the super bowl this year.
Mitchell (Co-host)
I'm right there with you, Rich. You saw it coming into the game. Every analyst on ESPN picked the Baltimore Ravens, so I'm sure that was bulletin board material for Dan Campbell and the boys.
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Mitchell (Co-host)
We leave here. We got some talking to do here. We got to talk about Nicholas John Bosa. I know you were casting Burning Sage everywhere in San Francisco, Seattle. I even sparked some up for you here in Detroit. It ultimately was worst case scenario for the San Francisco 49ers. Nick Bosa is out for the season with an ACL tear. Richard, I know you're demoralized and for those just not viewing on YouTube, Richard's currently crying beneath his 49ers hat on his chair. But Richard, talk to me. I know this has got to hurt. How do you uplift this 49er faithful fan base?
Richard Sherman
Mitchell? They've lost their favorite son, The San Francisco 49ers. Nicholas John Bosa. It's just. Oh my God. Mitchell, it's, it's, it, it hurts. It's a friend. It's a, it's a brother. It just sucks, man. You hate this part of the game. The guy works his tail off, the guy does it, the things the right way, he shows up in shape, you know, ready to help his team, and you just hate to see it, man. I guess the, the, the, the small bit of good news is it was a clean tear. He didn't, he didn't damage anything else in his knee. So hopefully they can, you know, reattach it and, or, or do what they need to do and, and, and you know, there's a lot of different ways they do the ACL surgery, whether it's cadaver, whether it's you know, from his patella or, you know, whatever. But hopefully he has a really speedy recovery. He's a guy that, you know, embodies what this team stands for. And it's just a tough situation, but the kind of guy and teammate he is, he's going to try to come in as soon as he can and rally the guys and tell him it's going to be okay. He's going to be in the meetings, he's going to be in the training room. He's going to be there to make sure his guys know that. That he's with him every step of the way. He's going to work his butt off all offseason to make sure he's ready for next season. No question about that. But it's just disappointing. You know, this is the part of the game you just hate. You know, this isn't. This isn't fanship. This isn't, you know, anything. This is just like, hey, I. You want the best for one of your guys. And to see him go down like this is just. It's heartbreaking. It's heart wrenching. You know, it's not about money. He's making his money. He's got. He's going to be okay. But you don't want to see a guy get injured, work so hard to be ready for the season and get injured. And it's a huge blow to this team. I know that, that Kyle Shanahan and John lynch are going to do their best to make some necessary moves. I think they'll look at the trade market, knock on some doors, pick up the phone, call the Giants and call the Houston Texans and call the guys who have an abundance of pass rushers and see if anybody is available and what the price is for that on a temporary basis. I wouldn't be surprised if they call about Brian Burns. Yeah, it's. There's a. There's a. There's a ton of people, but it's just a hard thing to think about right now. You know, you're so on such a high for. For the San Francisco 49ers to start the way, they have to be as banged up as they have to have to go to your backup quarterback in the second week of the season and for Mac Jones to play as well as he has and they. And get them two wins and potentially be getting Brock Purdy back. Potentially be getting. Be getting Brandon Iuk back in a couple of weeks. You know, you want to. You want to feel some joy, but this, this really, really takes the wind out of the sails for this team. And, you know, faithful, I would say just. Just try to keep your head up. And we don't get through this. You know, they're doing everything they can. It's just a. It's just a string of bad luck, you know, it can't be bad. It can't be bad forever. Eventually, things got to turn around. Nicholas. John Bosa will be okay. Unfortunately, his season is over this year, but the season for The San Francisco 49ers is not. And the guys will fight until they can't fight anymore. And I believe this team has a chance to continue to be special, and he will be doing the same thing, and he will want the same thing for this team. It's just unfortunate. Oh, mental. It hurts.
Mitchell (Co-host)
Brutal news. Richard, I feel for you. I feel for the 49er fan base. No question about it. But like you said, Nick Bose is one of those guys. You know, he's going to be back better, never next year when he gets back, but it's just devastating, especially after such a hot start to the season at 3.
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Richard Sherman
M is too soon. I'm. I'm in tragedy. I'm in mourning. Oh, Mitchell, Mitchell. You just want to do it because of Detroit.
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No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void where prohibited by law. 21 + terms and conditions apply. Mitchell we're going to go, we're going to leave the. We're going to leave the Philadelphia Eagles at 1. I thought about it. I wanted to move Buffalo onto 1. I didn't feel great about Buffalo's performance, so it was tough. I if, if, if the Rams would have won, there'd be a lot of change in the, in the top five. But they didn't. So the Philadelphia Eagles, reigning champs, keep finding a way to win. They're one. Buffalo Bills got to be two. They, they're doing it. They continue to find ways to win tough division game. Josh Allen continues to play at a MVP level. He's, he's 2. 3. I got. They found a way to win a tough division game. The LA Chargers went out there. They were losing that game. They showed grit, they showed determination. Quentin Johnson continues to, to have his, his, his showcase. His, his, his coming out party starting to blossom into everything they thought he would be. So I got The Chargers at 3, 4 and 5 is where it gets tricky. 5 is where it gets tricky. Mitchell, where do we go for 4 and 5? Because everybody who has a 3.0team is going to feel like they need to be there. Every, every 3, 0 team is like, oh, we, we deserve to be there. We deserve to be there. We deserve to be there. You know, they all three and O teams aren't created equal and I, I wanna, I wanna put you there. The Green Bay Packers. I you guys, I know you want to stay. I know you want to stay. It's it's hard. It's hard because I told you guys, the, the concern I had was the quarterback situation. So I'm gonna put the Detroit Lions, who were beat by the Green Bay packers at. At 4.
Mitchell (Co-host)
You know, fans are going to be yelling, but Detroit looked darn good today.
Richard Sherman
They. They. They just lost a. You. You want to yell, yell at somebody else. Don't lose to the Cleveland Browns. I'm sorry. No, don't do it. Makes it hard to put you in the top five when you lose it to Cleveland Browns. But at this point, I'm gonna have to leave them in because nobody else has shown me enough. Do I, Do I want to go? Do I want to go? Indiana Jones? Am I that bold? They are. They are on the cusp. The. The Indianapolis Coats have me this close to believing it might be fool's goal. I don't want to. I don't want to dive out there and then pull. Hey, they go. They gonna pull the rug from under me. I don't want to do it. I do not want to do that. But will I do it? Ah, I don't know, Mitchell. Green Bay packers or the Indianapolis Colts? I. I change. Stichen is really putting it together. They really. I'm gonna go with the. The. They're gonna massacre me for this. I'm going with The Indianapolis Coast 5. Hate Me all your while. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Indiana Jones. I want to do it. Are they that legitimate? Oh, it's fool's gold. It's fool's gold. Mitchell. Green Bay packers final answer. I'm done.
Mitchell (Co-host)
I feel like you called your own bluff, Richard. Good work, man.
Richard Sherman
I talked myself out of it. I couldn't. I couldn't do it. They're close, though. They win again.
Mitchell (Co-host)
They are. I think they got it. They gotta start like 50 just to give everyone that peace of mind that they actually are good. But they certainly look good right now. Daniel Jones, you know, hey, maybe dark horse MVP candidate. Who knows?
Richard Sherman
Richard, if you're putting Jonathan Taylor.
Mitchell (Co-host)
There you go, too. There you go, too. Well, hey, Richard, this has been a double dip on the recaps this weekend. It's been a heck of a weekend. Capped off with a beautiful Honolulu blue victory with my Detroit Lions. Richard, my friend, sign us off.
Richard Sherman
As always, we appreciate you joining us. You could be anywhere in the world. And I know you Detroit Lions, you won priders. You are here with us and you could be anywhere in the world. But we love you and we are happy for you. Got a big win in Baltimore. Hit that sub button if you're new. We'll see you next time.
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Episode Date: September 23, 2025
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (Richard Sherman Podcast segment)
Host: Richard Sherman
Co-host: Mitchell
This episode delivers an energetic and passionate deep dive into the Detroit Lions' statement win over the Baltimore Ravens, marking a turning point in perceptions of the Lions as real Super Bowl contenders. Richard Sherman and co-host Mitchell dissect the Lions’ performance, Dan Campbell’s bold coaching, and Johnny Morton’s impact as offensive coordinator. The episode also covers the stunned reaction to Nick Bosa’s season-ending injury and concludes with Sherman’s updated NFL top five power rankings. The tone is lively, conversational, and steeped in both analysis and fandom.
[02:34 – 06:15]
Lions change the narrative:
“38 to 6 Detroit. It’s a different breed of the Detroit Lions this time around.” — Mitchell [02:50]
Dan Campbell’s Game Plan:
“…every fourth and one, you knew what it was… they executed so well. The option play from Amon Ra St. Brown to Jamir Gibbs was masterful.” — Sherman [03:40]
Key Plays & Turning Points:
“His 72 yard run was the moment I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. Don’t you hear me, baby? It’s gonna be all right.” — Sherman [04:16]
[05:10 – 08:08]
Front Seven Steps Up:
“It was like Oprah out there… they were giving out sacks.” [05:37]
Goal Line Stand & Key Defensive Moments:
“The Detroit defense stood up. Not only stood up, but almost forced a turnover on Lamar Jackson. That goal line stand was incredible.” — Sherman [05:57]
Historical Context and Statement Win:
[07:48 – 10:47]
Sack Count:
“That’s dominant. Seven sacks on the day. That’s dominant.” — Sherman [07:58]
Jared Goff’s Steady Hand:
“He did a great, a masterful job of just pushing his offense down the field, understanding, not putting the ball in harm’s way” [09:45]
Derrick Henry Concerns for Ravens:
Significance for Detroit Fans:
[10:47 – 13:17]
Lions DNA — Going For It on Fourth:
“You put the corner, Marlon Humphrey, in a no-win situation… if you go down to stop the run, he’s wide open. If you go to stop the pass, the run’s there.” — Sherman [11:39]
Praise for Execution:
[16:32 – 20:58]
Bosa’s ACL Tear – A Gut Punch:
“It ultimately was worst case scenario for the San Francisco 49ers. Nick Bosa is out for the season with an ACL tear.” [16:32]
“They’ve lost their favorite son, the San Francisco 49ers. Nicholas John Bosa. It just sucks, man. You hate this part of the game.” — Sherman [17:22]
Look Ahead for the 49ers:
“I wouldn’t be surprised if they call about Brian Burns.” — Sherman [18:45]
"Just try to keep your head up. And we don't get through this. ... Nicholas John Bosa will be okay. Unfortunately, his season is over this year, but the season for The San Francisco 49ers is not.” — Sherman [20:12]
[21:12 – 27:24]
Sherman, still grieving the Bosa news, reluctantly revises his top five—walking listeners through his reasoning:
“The Indianapolis Colts have me this close to believing… but will I do it? … Green Bay packers, final answer. I'm done.” — Sherman [26:55]
Mitchell jokes that Sherman called his own bluff but says Colts could prove themselves soon.
“This ain't the same old Detroit Lions. ... That defense is showing up. It's been a weakness for so long. … Little did we know, the answer was right there.” [04:32–06:15]
“The Detroit Lions just put the entire league on notice. They are Super Bowl contenders.” [07:35]
“It's just disappointing. … It's not about money. He's making his money. He's going to be okay. But you don't want to see a guy get injured, work so hard to be ready for the season and get injured. It's a huge blow to this team.” [18:50]
“I'm dreaming, Richard. And I think that dream, they play like this, it might turn into a reality.” [10:47]
This episode is a passionate, energetic, and analytic reaction to one of the most pivotal games of the NFL week, celebrating the Detroit Lions’ arrival as contenders and mourning a significant setback for the 49ers. It is highlighted by thoughtful play breakdowns, direct emotional commentary, and classic Sherman wit, making it a rewarding listen for any football fan—especially those invested in the Lions or 49ers.