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Richard Sherman Podcast - NFL Week 12 REACTION: Seahawks-Titans, Browns-Raiders, Chiefs-Colts, Eagles-Cowboys | Richard Sherman NFL
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Richard Sherman
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast and what a game for the Seattle Seahawks and Sam Darnold. Huge play to Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Huge game from Jackson, Smith and Jigba. He somehow, through 11 games this season, is the first player in NFL history to have 75 yards or more in his first 11 games to start a season. Also broke the single season record for the Seattle Seahawks passing up DK Metcalf 1303 yards. I believe it was to to to now hold that record and to do it in only 11 games is incredible. Mitchell again, that defense looks good. They just looks well coached and formidable. The D line looks strong, the secondary looks confident. I'm sure fans will be complaining about how that game ended because again the Seahawks get up early, they look comfortable and then it they allow the other team to kind of just climb their way back in the game. Never, never really felt like the game was in doubt. But Steel just didn't feel like as dominant as the game started. They they start these games off so incredible and this was another incredible start, another road win for for Mike McDonald in this defense and this offense. The special teams that's that's been pretty solid this season. Gave up a 90 yard punt return. So I'm sure that's going to be a coachable moment for Mike McDonald and his staff. But I feel as good about the Seattle Seahawks as I felt all season. I felt good after the Rams game. I feel even better today. They just continue to just be a steady ship. You sometimes being who you're supposed to be. Beating teams you're supposed to be is un an underrated skill set in the National Football League. And that's what the Seattle Seahawks are doing. They're beating the teams they're supposed to beat. They're battling the way they're Supposed to battle guys are continuing to improve. I thought this was one of Devin Witherspoon's best games. I thought Tariq Woolen is, is, has since the trade rumors and all that has played magnificent football. I know it's not the interception numbers and the things that fans want to see and fill in the stat sheets, but he's been sticky in coverage. He's been locked down, forced a number of incomplete passes throughout this game, just was Titan coverage and forced Cam Ward to hold the ball a number of times. Byron Murphy, another game with a sack. DeMarcus Lawrence, just a veteran presence that's been dominant throughout this season. The offensive line, the offensive line for the Seattle Seahawks has been a revelation. They've been a revelation. They've been. That's a big reason why they are as good as they are. We why, why the confidence level is as high as it is. Because when you face it, a defense like you did last week against the Rams and you're solid, you hold up solid, you don't hear about the, the, the big name players that were supposed to be very disruptive in this game. We know Sam Darnold struggled and there was some pressure, but he didn't get sacked a ton in that game. He didn't get sacked a ton in this game. He was, he was pretty effective. 1626 for 244 and two touchdowns. Kenneth Walker got it going a little bit more on the ground along with Charbonnet. Charbonnet was able to find some lanes today as well, and that's another positive sign for the Seattle Seahawks because that's going to be the thing that, that, that takes them to the level of true super bowl contenders this season is if they can balance out this offense. Balance out this offense. We know you got Jackson, Smith and Jigba, who's having an incredible season, who's cementing himself as the best receiver in the National Football League right now. There are other great receivers in the National Football League. They're not playing as well as him. So I know everybody's like, well, this is just one season. Well, this is that season for him. He's breaking records all over the place. He's leading the league by almost 200 yards in receiving yards. So you got to give him that kind of credit. Sam Darnold is doing what he's supposed to do. Some of these passes are really elite level accuracy, elite level completions. His poise in this game was much better and I think the Seattle Seahawks will go as far as he will take them. But I think that like Clint Kubiak talked about before the game, he's doing a great job of in this game. He did a great job of just trusting his feet, trusting his eyes, making sure his feet and his eyes were married. They talked about how, how, how his feet was, were telling him, hey, don't throw these passes. He shouldn't have been throwing the passes that he did that led to interceptions. His eyes, his eyes were there. He gave it away. He had a terrible game. If he can re respond and he can play better against this same Rams team late in the season. We got that game on Thursday Night Football in December. I can't wait to see it. I, I, I'm not sure who's a great matchup for this team without him turning the ball over and giving it to another team. I can't see a team in the NFC that's a great matchup for it. And I know the Philadelphia Eagles fans will say what about us? We're the super reigning super bowl champs. I would feel good about Seattle going into that game and I know you guys would feel good about the Philadelphia Eagles, but I, I think this, this defense is really solid, complete with the brilliance of Mike McDonald. I think this offense, if they can get it going on the ground and that would be no easy task against that Philadelphia Eagles defense. I think this is the most complete team. I think this is a very complete team and they're going to be a tough out for, for anybody in the playoffs. They moved to 8 and 3 on the season. The Titans moved to 1 and 10. Cam y cam Ward showed some flashes, no question about it, that you got to give him some credit too. He showed some flashes during a very tough season. He's showing improvement. He's showing that he can get the job done. And he, he, he is the future for the, for the Tennessee Titans regardless of who, who the next coach is. But we'll, we'll see how this season continues to go. The Minnesota Vikings who've been struggling have to deal with the Seattle Seahawks. They, they come to town to play the Seattle Seahawks next week. So J.J. mcCarthy and, and his troubles travel to Seattle re revenge game.
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Mitchell
Richard Sam Darnold. I gotta say this man, and we talked about it this week. The Seattle Seahawks won this off season in my opinion. You move on from Geno Smith. It seemed like, you know, Geno had the, the Seattle Seahawks in a position where they're always competitive, they're always a solid squad, but they were never a true contender. And when I say contender, I don't think they were a true division contender. You bring Sam Darnold in and you pay him $40 million a year, which on its surface seems like a lot. But when you compare that to Trevor Lawrence, Jordan. Love these guys making north of 50, $55 million. You want to talk about a dramatic discount the Seattle Seahawks got with Sam Darnold, and he is a guy that I think can lead them to the promised land. You know, lead them to a division title, make them competitors and contenders in this nfc. I truly believe that. And then you look at jsn, we all talk about Yak Kings, right? The Yak Kings, the Debo Samuels of the world, the Golden Tates of the world. JSN is the Yak. The deep ball king. Not the Yak King, but the deep ball king. Richard, he ranks 99.9 by PFF on deep ball rating. He's number one in the league. He's got 14 receptions north of 20 yards. Richard, this guy. I mean, Ohio State. When in doubt, draft an Ohio State wideout. That's my motto. If I were a gm because these Ohio State wideouts are killing it in the league. Jsn, oh, my goodness. Might just be the best of the bunch of. But we've talked about Cam Ward a little bit, Richard, and, and I disagree with you wholeheartedly. In fact, I, I think Jackson Dart should have been the number one pick based on his performance this year. Yeah, I know he was out this game against alliance, but what I see, the stature, the, the, the charisma, the poise, you know, the, the winner mentality, I still think Jackson Dart should have been 1:1 in this draft. I like what I see out of Cam Ward today, but Richard, I'm not sold on him as the future of this Tennessee Titans franchise. I, I think he's going to be a good player. But I stand by my word. I think Jackson Dart is the better pro going forward. I'll let you respond to that notion, but that's my opinion.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah, I can see that. You know it can. You can make an argument either way. Obviously, the Titans have won one game this year. They'll be picking top three in this draft coming up. I would expect so. So you can make an argument either way. I think Jackson Dart has a better supporting cast. No question about it. I think their defense is better. Their D line. I can't. The receivers for Tennessee Titans. Can you name three? Because I, I, I, I couldn't without looking it up. And, and I could say the same about the Giants. If I'M being honest. He I'm not saying Jackson dart play with great receivers for the Giants, but I thought the play calling there, the, the system in place, the structure that they play within was better than what Cam Ward has been given. I'm looking forward to seeing who the Tennessee Titans hire to to help support Cam Ward and and, and, and push him to the next level. We're hearing about the Minnesota Vikings fans calling for the firing of Ken Kevin oconnell, which, which I never thought I would hear. Oh my God, that's these NFC north teams. Mitchell. I'm sorry. They're, they're just these fan bases and I know they're supposed to Minnesota is supposed to be such a nice, calm fan base, but hearing them call for that. The Green Bay packers calling for LaFleur saying the the offense is so predictable we need to get rid of him and get somebody else like. Give me a break, Richard.
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Mitchell
If the Minnesota vikings fire Kevin O', Connell, he will be hired within exactly 60 seconds by about 20 other teams in the league. I mean that is their only saving grace with that franchise. The GM made a dramatic mistake in letting go of Sam Darnold and entrusting JJ McCarthy to come in and be this, you know, second year coming off the injury savior of this franchise to take him to the next level. It's not looking good right now in Minnesota and I think Seattle fans have got to be thrilled by that mistake.
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Richard Sherman
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Richard Sherman
Your Detroit Lions were in a barn burner of their own. Jameis Winston came to town.
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Mitchell
Oh my God, Mitchell.
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Richard Sherman
And he put on a Jameis Winston type show. He threw some balls that were put in harm's way that the Lions didn't take advantage of. They did take advantage of one, but he also put some up there and put up big numbers, throwing for 366 yards in this game. 18 of 36. Only 50% completion percentage, but two touchdowns. But Jir Gibbs 15 carries for 219 yards and a touchdown. Jared Golf. They were able to pull off the win. Veteran team just finding a way to win at the end. But oh, I know you were nervous and I told you. I told you to worry, to watch out for him.
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Mitchell
You did tell me. Richard, we talked about this last night. I did not go to the game today. I had an opportunity to, but I chose not to. I chose to have a restful Sunday. Richard. I thought it was going to be a cakewalk down at Ford Field, and I was wrong. And you put me in my place. You said, mitchell, be, be leary of Jameis Winston, be leery of Wandell Robinson, Theo Johnson, Isaiah Hodgins. And I said, richard, you're crazy, man. But I, I might, I, I might have to think a little bit more highly of your opinion of this New York Giants football team. Jameis Winston scared the living bejesus out of me today, Richard. There was over a thousand yards of total offense. I, I, I'm curious to know how many times in NFL history that happened. Because it was a wild one in Detroit. Detroit got down early. They were never in the lead in this game until they finally took the the lead. I have a bone to pick with Dan Campbell and whoever's calling the place for the Detroit Lions. You have got, I would say without argument, one of the top three running backs in the NFL. And Jameer Gibbs, you have got another guy who could be starting on half the league's team in David Montgomery. You've got a Sonic Knuckles in the backfield, right? Where the heck has been knuckles? David Montgomery, five carries today for 18 yards. Last year, the season before that, he was the one that set the tone. He was the one that grinded these defenses down, that set up play action that allowed Jared Goff to pick apart the defenses over the middle for these 8, 10, 12, 15 yard gains that turn into explosives. And Richard, we're not seeing that right now. The explosives are coming from Jameer Gibbs, who carried the ball an exact amount of 15 times. Richard. For 219 yards, three touchdowns on the day. I mean, my goodness. The Detroit Lions of the last two years ran the ball to set the tone, to set up play action. That's where Jared Goff excels. They've been moving away from that. I get it. You're down 10 early. Who cares? You got to rely on the run game. Jonathan Vilma was calling in the broadcast all day today. The Lions need to lean on this rug game and they, they ran the ball 20 times today. Great. You rush for over 225 total yards. That's awesome. Due to two explosives of Jameer Gibbs. Hand these guys the football. Get back to basics. That's my, that's my call to the Detroit Lions staff right now. Get back to basics. Let's not rely on Jared Goff dropping back and heaving the ball downfield. Let's rely on the run game. Let's get this O line comfortable. Let's let these guys that are good run blockers set the tone early and then resort back to the passing attack. I believe the Lions, you know, still have a very good chance to make a solid run, even win this division. Their next handful of games, you know, against the packers on Thanksgiving, against the Cowboys on Thursday Night Football, both at home, you know, those are, those are going to be difference makers and the, the slotting of this playoff run down the stretch. Richard, they absolutely need to come out with their true Detroit lion grip mentality on Thursday on Thanksgiving against the packers and they need to take over this division. The Chicago Bears look pretty damn good. I'm not going to discount that. But I leave believe the Detroit Lions are a better team in the long run. Their schedule is more comfortable coming down the stretch. It is huge that they were able to pull off this win. But Richard, I've got a lot of complaints, as you can tell.
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Richard Sherman
No, I can tell and I'm sure the other Detroit Lions fans have a ton of complaints. The, the thing I noticed was James Winston was very comfortable in that pocket. I mean there were, there was a little bit of pocket pressure where, where things were starting to collapse. You know, some sacks maybe have been starting to develop, but he was comfortable and he was comfortable and he was picking that defense apart because he wasn't sacked. He wasn't under as much duress as he need. And we talked about it. Yo, you guys need pass rush and I thought you guys would pick up a Preston Smith, a Zadarius Smith, somebody a veteran to help this pass rush be more effective. The only sack of the game came from Aiden Hutchinson on the last play of the game. And it, it sure it ended up being a colossal play that, that ends the game and closes this game out for the Detroit Lions. But where is the pressure all game long? This is a, a two win line. I mean two win Giants team on their third string quarterback. We love all love watching Jamis Winston play football, but this is not a game, this is not a team. If you're talking about the Detroit Lions and Super bowl contenders where you would expect them to be in a dog fight in overtime with Jamis Winston and the Detroit Lions. And mind you, I, I, I saw Jameis Winston in a dog fight with them last week against the, the Green Bay Packers. So there's a lot to fix. There's a lot of things on this defense that need to be shored up. There's some offensive play calling things. Jir Gibbs if he only has 15 carries and 219 yards, everybody's scratching their head about why he's not getting the ball more. If he, if he would have got 20 carries. Does it sound like he would have got 300 yards? I mean, could have been an all time record breaking day for him. And, and to not see that, to not see him getting that, those opportunities and that kind of production is frustrating. But, yeah, I, I don't know what they're going to do. I, I really don't. It doesn't feel strong. These wins. Don't feel strong wins. You know what I mean? They feel like relief wins. Like, hey, you won the game. Like, oh God, thank goodness, like, my Sunday's not going to be ruined. But it doesn't give the confidence that, man, this is a team I know can compete for Super Bowl.
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Mitchell
I'm with you, Richard. I. Before we leave this game, I want to talk about Mike Kafka, the interim head coach for the New York Giants. I'm a firm believer in this Giants organization, like what they've set up, especially with this offseason. Bringing in Jackson Dart, bringing in Cam Scatterboo, you know, bringing in Abdul Carter. It seemed like they've totally shifted their tone and they've got a bunch of winners. The guys that like, do not want to settle on anything but winning. And you gotta love to see that from the New York Giants. And I think we see that a little bit with this head coach and wife Kafka. Do you think that they're going to keep him around based on this performance? I mean, I was really impressed. I did not expect them to lean on Devin Singletary and Tyrone Tracy the amount they did. They were so hell bent on establishing the run game that it made life for Jameis pretty darn easy. Do you like what you see in Mike Kafka?
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Richard Sherman
Yeah, I like what I see in Mike Kafka. But it's so tough for an interim head coach because he, he's not able to come in and develop the culture, you know, do things his way, run the program the way he wants to. Yes, he coached a good game. I thought he gave him a chance. But the same is true about, about D. I thought Jabo, that's the reason he got fired. He coached some really great quarters, some really great partial games, and then they end up losing in the end. And I think it will be different. If this was a win and the Giants found a way to win this game, we'd be having a much different conversation about, about Kafka. But it's for Giants fans and for the front office, it's just another almost win. It's just, it's just another, oh, we could have had that one. You know, there's probably been probably five or six of these games for the New York Giants this season. So I don't think it's enough to really give him serious consideration. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they're going to go out there and look for, look to hit a home run with one of these offensive geniuses, whatever the next. Or defensive genius is. Whatever, whoever the next guy in line is. And I'm not sure who that is right now because a lot of the winning teams have head coaches that are calling the plays. I don't think Mike McDonald's going anywhere. Do you, do you. Do you go for Clint Kubiak in that offense? I don't think you do. If you're talking about the Rams, do you go for their coordinator, knowing McVeigh has a big hand in that? Is it. Is it Shula, the defensive coordinator for the Rams, who has them playing incredibly well? Perhaps. But they won't be the only team in the, in the hunt on the hunt for a new head coach. You got the Tennessee Titans. You might have the Cincinnati Bengals, depending on what they do at the end of the season. So there's a number of teams that will be looking in. In the, in the head coach hunt. So I'm not sure, but I think Kafta's showing himself to be a, a really competent offensive coordinator and he'll definitely get another opportunity to do that.
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Mitchell
Another doozy and OT thriller as well. The Chiefs come back down 11 points in the fourth quarter and take care of the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts looked like they were in complete control of this game in the fourth and they just couldn't get it done. Richard Daniel Jones 1931 for 181 and two touchdowns. There really wasn't a whole lot of explosive plays, but on either side of the ball. Jonathan Taylor was pretty well contained. But the Colts looked like they were going to win this game and then the vintage Chiefs of old resurrected and took care of him in ot. Is it safe to say the Kansas City Chiefs are back?
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Richard Sherman
No, no, no, no. By no means. They're six and five and, and that was a desperation game for them and that's the way they played. They played like it was a playoff game. You saw it in Patrick Mahomes eyes. You saw it in his demeanor and the way he went running, ran the football. It wasn't run the football and slide and, and try to try to save yards and keep your body safe. He was dropping his shoulder and trying to get as many yards as he could. He understood the urgency in this game and, and what it would be if they lost this game. So you could see it in the play calling. You could see it in the desperation, the desperation of the offense, the desperation of the defense. And they battled and they earned a win against a. A really tough Indianapolis Colts team who's going to be really competitive in the playoffs. They, they held Jonathan Taylor in check, who's been an MVP candidate all season long, held Daniel Jones in check. The coach defense was able to get to Mahomes and sack him four times, force an interception, force a force fumble. But Mahomes still 29 of 46, 352 yards. But they, they leaned on Kareem Hunt in this game, and he imposed his will throughout the game. He had 30 carries for 104 yards, but he had that critical fumble deep in the red zone. That almost was the, the, the defining moment of this game for the Kansas City Chiefs. But you just saw that resilience in. You saw the desperation. You saw them turn into that, that championship pedigree, to tune into that championship pedigree, that desperate mode. And they're tough to beat if they play like that. And sometimes you see them throughout the season where they'll just lollygag through these games. They'll just coast through them like, hey, we've been here before, like they're bored in the National Football League, and they've lost a lot of those games that way. But this game, you saw them, hey, we're very deliberate, we're very serious against the team that, that I think is going to be competitive late in the season and going to go to the playoffs and get a win or two. So we'll see. This is a, a big win for the Kansas City Chiefs, a real. A tougher loss for the Indianapolis coast than you'll think, because they have the Houston Texans next, who get CJ Stroud back coming off a big win against the Buffalo. Bill, they look good. They look really good. They're 6 and 2 in their last 8 games. If I'm not mistaken, they're 6 and 2 in their last eight. They're not the same Texans team that was 013 to start the season. So the way that defense is playing, to watch this Colts play this way, that. That defense is number three against the run, number three against the pass, number one in total defense and number one in scoring defense. They're going to be in that game and they're going to be disruptive. Those. They got two pass rushes over 10 sacks already and, and Daniel Hunter and, and Will Anderson. So this isn't going to be any walk in the park. And in their secondary, they have a budding superstar from the Houston Texans and Kaylin Bullock, who had two interceptions in the game this week, a force fumble, four interceptions on the season. And we're not even talking about Derek Stingley and Kamari Lasseter. And Kamari Lasseter is playing with a different kind of physicality. We saw a highlight that didn't even involve him defending a pass. He was coming on, coming downhill, taking on a fullback and, and rag dolling him for a TFL and on a critical play in the game. So you're talking about a defense that's running and hitting. The Colts could be in trouble, not because they're not a great team and not not playing great football, but they're just running into teams that are really, really rolling right now. And I'm looking forward to that game. That's probably going to be the game of the week next week. The Chiefs have the Cowboy.
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Mitchell
Sorry, I don't doubt you at all. I was so impressed with the Houston Texans on Thursday night and I know you got to see him firsthand on Thursday night football there, Richard. You even got to sit down right with, with not Derek Stingley, but Kaden Bullock and, and Kamari Lassiter. I mean, how cool of an experience is that? I know these guys are too young, young bucks in the NFL just finding their footing, but holy cow, they have changed that Houston Texan secondary into an absolute juggernaut. And I think they're really carrying this team. And you couple that with Will Anderson and Denal Hunter, I would not want to be playing against that team right now.
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Richard Sherman
And no question about it, they're, they're going to, they're young and they're hungry. They're both only in their second years, they're best friends and they're playing at a really high level. Sometimes it just takes a little bit more, a little bit of information, a little, little hit here and there for it to click. And we were having a conversation, we were doing a sit down interview and I was just telling Kaylin the conversation I had with Tamiko Ryan's after, well, during practice on Wednesday and it was just his hesitation and it was hesitation and I, and I've been there before. I haven't been there in the league because I decided in the Senior Bowl I, I played with a lot of hesitation in college. I played games where I was like, ah, man, I studied really hard. I'm Getting a formation. I see the picture. I, I'm, I'm, I've studied, but I'm, I'm still not believing it. I see, oh, it should be a slant on this play. And instead of just driving the slant and believe it, I'm like, but what if it's a slant and go, and then the guy runs a slant and catches the ball and I tackle him and it's bang, bang play. But it's those split second decisions that's the difference between all Pro and, and just a good player and just a solid player. And I told myself when I didn't get invited to the combine and I didn't, I ended my senior year and I didn't have an invite to the combine. I didn't have an invite to any, any all star games or anything. I said, if I ever get an opportunity to play again, I'm going to, I'm going to work my butt off, I'm going to study the tape and I'm going to play without hesitation. And that's what I told him. And after the Senior Bowl, I played really well in the Senior Bowl. I got a late invite after, after somebody got hurt and I played out there with no hesitation. And that earned me an invitation to the combine. And when I got to the National Football League and got my opportunity, I never played with hesitation. I trusted that my film study and my preparation all week was legitimate. And if I saw the looks I'm looking for, if I, if I got the, the formations and the splits that I was looking for, then I'm going to drive the play that I believe it is. And I told that to Kaylin Bullock during that interview, that, hey, you just got to trust it, man. You can't work hard all week and, and, and trust it in practice. Trust it and walk through and trust it and, and all these other scenarios and get in the game and not trust it because that, then you killing the point, that's, that that'll drive a coach crazy. Trust it. Just trust your work and preparation. You've earned the right to make that play. And if you don't make the play or they run a double move or they do something different, at least you can go to your coach and say, hey, I, I, I based this off of all the work we did in practice, the looks you gave me, the film I study, and that's why I drove the coach. And a coach can understand that and say, okay, I, I understand that. Good job. Just keep better eyes on that play. But when you do all that and you hesitate and you don't make the play. They cannot accept it. And in that game, he did not hesitate at all. And I don't think he'll hesitate going forward. He's going to be one of the best safeties in the National Football League.
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Mitchell
Love it. Love it. Richard the the Green Bay Packers. This team has been middling for a while. They've been winning, but it has been just Survive in advance. Survive in advance. Nothing. Nothing Earth. Shocking.
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Mitchell
Minnesota Vikings came into town with the the aforementioned JJ McCarthy and looked terrible. 12 of 19 for 87 yards and 2 interceptions. QB rating at 34.22. Richard, where do we start? You want to start with the Green Bay Packers? You want to start with these Lola Lowly Minnesota Vikings who unfortunately beat my Detroit Lions a couple weeks ago.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah, because that's, that's Mitchell embarrassing. Yeah, it's really embarrassing. And that's another conversation for a different day. But that's a reason why there's hope in the Minnesota Vikings. That game. That game. Your Detroit Lions gave false hope to this Minnesota Vikings fan base. But I want to talk about the Green Bay packers in this game because they scored 23 points. Jordan Love 14, 21, 139 sacked once, but they ran Wilson 28 times for 107 and two touchdowns. Christian Watson had five catches for 49 yards. And I keep hearing Green Bay packers are too predictable. They're too predictable. Seems like the defense just has our playbook. I don't know how many times I have to say this? I. I don't know when it's going to be more apparent to your fan base. They do not trust the quarterback. They don't. They don't. Your quote, your coach does not trust your quarterback. This Minnesota Vikings team. And Brian Flores is aggressive, exotic. He can bring a lot of pressures from a. A lot of different ways. Your offensive line is banged up. I understand these are all factors that LaFleur is, is, is. Is taken into account. When he's calling these plays, he's not just saying, hey, we got a great offensive line. We got all these great receivers and a great back right there. Josh Jacobs isn't even playing. It's not like he ran Josh Jacobs 28 times. He felt the need that to run Emmanuel Wilson 30. I mean, almost 30 times in this game. And the reason is the offensive line is banged up. But I also don't want to put my quarterback in a position to lose us a game that we should win easily if we just lean on our defense and our run game. That's how you play when you got a quarterback you don't trust or a rookie quarterback, not a quarterback. You're playing 55 million and you think, hey, this is one of the most dynamic players in the National Football League. This is one of the most elite players in the National Football League, and he can go out there and help us take us to the next level. They don't believe that. If they believe that, they would call it differently. Now. Don't get mad at me. Don't. I. I'm getting tired of arguing with these fans. That's what the tape says. That's not what I'm like. I'm saying what the tape saying. If he was throwing the ball 45 times and running it 25 and saying, hey, you know, we're trying to do all this and he's getting sacked or, you know, make mistakes. Then I would say, hey, you know, he's called in the plays for your quarterback. He's just, you know, it's just not working out or he's not calling the right plays or they're making mistakes. He doesn't trust him. He doesn't trust him. And he doesn't want to put it in his hands to lose it. You're paying him a lot of money to throw it 21 times for 139 yards. And if we look at the game before, if we look at the game before, and that's what I'm going to do. I want to go back because I want to get the stats right and I don't want to. I don't want to debate these people anymore because it's getting frustrating because these. It's average after average after average after average. And I'm being told that I'm doing. I'm saying something crazy. He was 13 for 24 for 174 and two touchdown passes against the, against the Giants. It's not a crazy game. I thought a, I thought a world earth shattering game. This, this Giants defense isn't the best in the world. And then if we go back again, another game he played the Philadelphia Eagles, a game that you was a rematch of the playoff game from last year. He was 20 of 36 for 176. No touchdowns, no interceptions. I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry. There's. Those aren't earth shattering and, and the same thing that can make you laugh, can make you cry. Every The Green Bay Packers. Everybody eats. It's the same thing the Buffalo Bills are saying. Everybody eats. We got all these great receivers. We can just spread it around. They don't know who the best receiver receiver around. How's it working out? It's working. Is it working for you? You think it's the good strategy still? Is it working for the Buffalo Bills? No, because it doesn't work. You have to have a big dog. Not a bunch of little dogs. Big dogs. And if you don't have a big dog, there's no fear of the defense from anything you're doing offensively. Whether you have a big dog in the backfield or a big dog on the outside. It's going to be tough for you to take the next step offensively until you have a big dog. Get a big dog. The last time you went to the NFC Championship, Devonte Adams was there. Big dog.
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Mitchell
Yep.
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Richard Sherman
That's how you got there. Big dog. A guy that.
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Mitchell
It's the same reason Aaron Rodgers left there. There was Devonte Adams and nobody else. Right. And that was his chief complaint. What are we doing? Not helping our offense. Richard Jordan loves making $55 million a year. Am I right?
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Richard Sherman
Right.
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Mitchell
He completed the ball 14 times today. If my math serves me correct. Every completion is worth $231,000. This game he makes over $3.2 million a game. I would expect a lot more from my quarterback than 14 completions. I could break down the numbers further. I don't want to whip out a calculator too many times. He only had a 139 yard passing and I get it. They were up all game. They were playing this lowly Vikings team. But my goodness, I'm with you. Jordan Love. You'd expect more. I think he's a good player. But this brings us back to the Sam Darnold conversation. Who would you rather have on your team? Money aside, Sam Darnold or Jordan Love? I'd rather have Sam Darnold. Then you factor in a $15 million discount on top of that. I, I'm sorry. I'm with you, Richard. I think the Green Bay packers are good. I don't think they're great. And until they add two weapons to this team to help accelerate Jordan Love's development, I think that's where they're going to be for a while.
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Richard Sherman
But that's what they tried to do. And they, they tried to. Matthew golden, they drafted him in the first round. They got Christian Watson, who's getting healthy. Sure. They lose Tucker Craft. They lost Tucker Craft. But Tucker Kraft was having a great season because he was turning a little bit into a lot. He was turning check downs into big gains and touchdowns. It wasn't like Tucker Kraft was, was just down the field running big, big time routes all the time and catching all these down the field passes. He was turning yakyards into a lot. But when you pay a quarterback, that's the amount of money he has to be a difference maker, never a guy that you have to protect. If you're paying a guy that much money and you have to protect him with the run game, you have to say, hey, we don't want to. We're up. We don't want to throw that much. Could you imagine the Chiefs being like. And the Chiefs don't pay Patrick my holes that much. So that's a whole story for a different day. But Joe Burrow being up, you know, two touchdowns and being like, hey, we can't throw too much more. We don't want to put him in harm's way. What? What do you mean you don't want to. You don't want to put him in harm's way? Throw the ball. Why? If, if we don't need to throw it with him, why do we have it? That's the questions you got to be asking yourself, Green Bay packers fan. Can. Would this team, if you didn't have Jordan Love and you replaced him with just above average quarterback play? Let's take names out of it. Above average quarterback play.
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Mitchell
Would it be Malik Willis?
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Richard Sherman
Malik Willis. Malik Willis comes in and, and spells Jordan Love from time to time. Has played solid football because lafleur can draw it up. But if you put somebody else in there. Let's, let's go down the list of, of quarterbacks that I guess would, would fit that, that, that category of above average quarterback play. I mean, I guess we just go through the guys making 50 plus million. If you, if you put, if you put Herbert in there, is that your boy?
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Mitchell
Your boy, Trevor Lawrence?
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Richard Sherman
Richard, if you put Trevor Lawrence in there. Sure. Sure. Are they a worse team? Are they still. Is the record the same? I don't know. I, I really don't like Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield's playing at a high level. If you put Baker Mayfield in there, but he's not making 55 million. If you put Baker Mayfield on this team, are they a better team? Potentially. That's the concerning part. Potentially. That's the thing that I do not like about this Green Bay packers team. Their defense. Yes, they got after it today. Micah Parsons was double teamed and making sacks on the play. Their defense was getting after it. They sacked the quarterback. They intercepted J.J. mcCarthy twice. They looked the part. Good job from Jeff Halfley, who will be a head coach candidate this season. I hope he gets a job because he's a good friend of mine. I think he's doing an outstanding job with his defense and he's an outstanding leader of men. But for, for the fans to keep turning on these coaches because these quarterbacks aren't who these fans believe them to be. It's just laughable. And I, and, and I almost wish they would get the reality that they hope for so that they could see that it is your eyes deceiving you, not these coaches. These coaches aren't just calling these plays because they're like, I want to hold this guy back. I highly doubt Matt LaFleur is going into this. Like, I don't want, I don't want to make Jordan Love look too good. He's going to outshine me. That's not what he's doing. He's like, how, what do I have to do so that the Green Bay packers walk out of here with the win today? And that's what he's doing, whether you like it or not. And, and Kevin OConnell on the other side, Minnesota Vikings fan, you can do a lot worse. The, this, the, the thing that May cost Kevin OConnell his job is the decision to walk away from Sam Darnold and play J.J. mcCarthy. And I said it before, it was a mistake. And, and I don't want to keep, I don't want to keep Beating a dead horse because it's not fair to J.J. mcCarthy, but he's been put in an unfair situation, which I said, when you go in and you have a 14.3season and, and your fans start to start to flirt with the idea of winning a Super bowl, they start flirting with it. Mitchell. And then that quarterback struggles in the playoff game and they go home early. They have such negative thoughts about that quarterback because of how it ended. And they say, man, we need somebody to take us to the next level. They're so desperate to get to the next level that they take five steps back and they don't even realize it because they think different is better. They don't think better is better. They think different is better. So they, they find hope indifferent instead of understanding. Hey, Sam Donald has been put in a tough situation with an offensive line that was struggling all season long. He got pressured. He didn't play in a good game. He got beat by a better team. Come back, revamp your offensive line, work on that, because that's the reason why he was under such duress and, and, and go at it again and let your young quarterback who you drafted in the first round develop, but you thought different was better. So now you got a young quarterback with unrealistic expectations from the team, from the fans, no matter how much they scream, patience, patience, just be patient with the kid. You have unrealistic expectations and then you have unrealistic expectations of an offensive line who, that you try to improve. Now you've lost Darasol, who's arguably your best, best offensive lineman. You're going to put this quarterback behind a patchwork offensive line now that Sam Darnold had to deal with all season last year and turn it into 14 wins. But now they're the problem, and that's the reason the quarterback's not developing. And now Kevin OConnell doesn't know how to call a game when he's protecting a young quarterback from, from having a worse outing than he would have if he didn't protect him because he doesn't want you guys jumping down his throat. And, and I'm, I'm. All I'm saying in this is he's not playing well enough. And he wasn't going to play well enough in the first place. There was nothing that he did at Michigan. Just because he won a national championship does not mean he's an NFL starting caliber quarterback. I'm sorry that quarterbacks have won national championships and not been nothing. And then you, you could do the Tom Brady comparison. All you want. But Tom Brady got taken in the sixth, not top 10. He wasn't productive in that way. He played well enough in big games. He did not turn the ball over. He did not throw the game away so that Michigan won the national championship. He's a fine human being, I'm sure, but we're talking about the football player and, and the football player is not prepared for this moment. So no matter what you guys want to say, that's the truth of the matter. And he could have benefited from another year of sitting behind NFL quarterback, which Sam Darnold has proven himself to be and is continuing to prove himself to be in Seattle. They're now 8 and 3. So that's the part that's frustrating to me, is that everybody's turning on these coaches when, when we were just talking about Kevin OConnell being a quarterback whisperer. Him and McVey and Shanahan are the guys that turn quarterbacks who nobody wanted into Cinderellas. But now they're saying, oh, he, he's not good enough. He doesn't make good enough decisions in coaching. Like he made the decision. Who made the decision to go from Darnold to. Was that a team decision? Who did that? You know, because you go from 14 wins to potentially picking in the top 10 of the draft.
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Mitchell
Richard. They got greedy. Bottom line. They, they looked at money. They said, do we pay Sam Darnold this amount of money? Do we get a rookie contract or a quarterback on a rookie contract and run this thing out for the next four years? Then we're in our super bowl window. They got greedy. 14 and 3 wasn't good enough. Like you said, different was better in their eyes. I, I love that analogy. And unfortunately for the Vikings, it's going to take a while for them to regroup and reload. And if J.J. mcCarthy's looking like this, let's stay in the NFC North. Richard. These Chicago Bears are 8 and 3 under Ben Johnson. That is wild. Expect they have to the shellacking they took in Detroit, losing by 20 plus points, giving it 52 points in Ford Field. They've gone on this absolute unbelievable run, capped off with a three point win against the Pittsburgh Steelers today. And I know the Steelers, you know, aren't the best team in the world, but they're competitive, especially on the defensive side of the ball. The Chicago Bears give up a defensive touchdown. J.J. watt with a great strip sack in the end zone, and the Steelers looked like they were going to win this thing. And, and kudos to, to Caleb Williams. I mean, I Know, he, he's taken a lot of heat. He's in a, he's in a strong market in Chicago, but he's risen to the occasion. 239 yards, three touchdowns. You know, D.J. moore had a nice game with two touchdowns. They drafted Kyle Manon guy out of Rutgers who's, who's really looked like that. That hammer that they need running between the tackles. What, what do you think of the Chicago Bears Team 8 and 3? Do you think that they are, you know, legitimate contenders in the NFC or are they just a feel good story?
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Richard Sherman
Well, it's so hard to, to gauge who they are because they so many of these games they've started off so slow and made fourth quarter comebacks and battled back and just scratched and called their way. But 11 games in, they're eight and three and we get to have them this week. We, we get to have them this week or next week. Friday on the Black Friday game against the Philadelphia Eagles. That'll let, that'll tell the story going against the reigning super bowl champs. You're eight and three Philadelphia. For, for, for everything they've done this season looks like they'll win this game. They're blowing the Dallas Cowboys out 21 nothing right now. They got a chance next week to prove it versus the the reigning super bowl champs who's who've been having a really strong season of their own. Could be a potential eight, you know, eight and three team versus a nine and two team which is an incredible matchup late in the season. And we'll see because Caleb Williams has one of his better games this season. 1935. 239, three touchdowns. He did have the fumble, but Manangai, 12 carries, 48 yards in the touchdown DJ Moore, two touchdowns in the game. Believe it or not, they're first in your NFC north and they're looking like one of the most consistent team. I mean they're winning, I can't say the most consistent team because nobody's consistent. But the fact that they're in it in there and they're, and they're developing and they're finding ways to, to win and close out ball games. They're building winning habits and Ben Johnson's first year and that's what you want to see if you're a Chicago Bears fan. I'm sure they're tired of getting a heart attack every game. But if you're going to get a heart attack every game and come out with a win, they can live with it. And they got another win. Soldier Field Obviously, the Steelers were without the hall of Famer. They were without the hall of Famer, Aaron Rodgers, but who knows when he's going to come back. And Mason Rudolph 24, 31, 171, one touchdown, one interception, fumbled the football. Kenneth Gainwell had had an incredible play on a fake tush push. That was a really, really cool play. And I think more, more teams are going to find ways to run similar versions of that play because it was so effective. But that defense had played well the last few games and, and they didn't play well today. You know, Caleb Williams had his way. So I think the Bears believe they can play with anybody. We'll see how true that is. But they've, they've found a way. And I look forward to them playing the Eagles and then the Green Bay Packers. And after those two games, we'll have another conversation about if they're truly legitimate contenders, because those two teams they're going to play in the next two weeks are legitimate contenders. And the Steelers are going to have to find a way to beat the Buffalo Bills and beat the Baltimore Ravens, both teams fighting for their playoff lives. That's why I love this into the season, because so many things can happen.
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Mitchell
You know who the Chicago Bears play the last week of the season? Richard?
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Richard Sherman
The Detroit Lions.
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Mitchell
They sure do. These NFL script writers have it, have it down pat. I mean, before we leave this game, if I were to tell you that the Chicago Bears would be eight and three under Ben Johnson in his first year, how shocked would you have been at the beginning of the season?
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Richard Sherman
I'd be really shocked. I'd be really shocked, Mitch. Right. On a scale of 1 to 10, my shock level would be at a 7.7. Because usually in the first year, after a team struggles the way they did last year, you're not expecting them to, to know how to win games, to know how to close out games, especially in a strong division like the NFC North. You thinking, hey, three of these teams won what, 12 games last year or so? Three playoff teams. You got. The Minnesota Vikings won 14 games. The Detroit Lions looked like a juggernaut. The Green Bay packers get Micah Parsons and look like the freaking. Look like a team that, that's warned to go to a Super Bowl. And then you look up in the, in 11 games in the. The Bears are at the top of the division. You, you would have. You. Color me crazy.
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Mitchell
Let's talk about another team that has shocked the world this year. This New England patriots are now 10 and 2. Richard defeating the Cincinnati Bengals the expectation was empha to win this game and it came down to the wire since he had the ball late in the red zone. Could have had an opportunity to score and go ahead for the win. Credit to Drake May in this New England Patriots team. They got down early. It was similar to the Lions game. Got down early, gave up a pick six. I believe they were down 10 points early on and they came back, took care of the Bengals who were without Jamar Chase. Your thoughts on this New England Patriots team. They, they were tested over the last couple weeks with better opponents and they're going to be playing the Giants next week. Their schedule is just kind of soft. Do you believe this team is a true AFC contender? I believe they sit as the number one seed right now, if I'm not mistaken.
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Richard Sherman
I think they're the only 10 win team out there. And, and that's the biggest part. They're the only 10 win team in the NFL right now. And so yeah, give them, give them all the, the, the criticism you want for having a schedule. But that's not in their control. If we're going to criticize them, criticize them for the things that are in their control. But there is not a lot to criticize this team about because they're winning and big. Every big test they've had, whether it's the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo, they've passed. They beat the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo, they beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, an offense that you expected to be able to challenge these guys and, and challenge Mike V's defense. Even the Bengals, the Bengals, Flacco's been, been lighting it up this year. Obviously they're without Jamar Chase and because of the suspension for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, they lost T. Higgins in the game. They, they lost a lot of players in this game. But give the Patriots credit. They are winning in the culture and the way Mike Rabel is winning and the way that he's, he's speaking confidence in his players, all these cast offs they have on his defense, the way Christian Gonzalez is playing, the way all these guys are playing. You got guys like Chase on who, who was, you know, a former first round pick that the, the Jacksonville Jaguars let go and let walk away. You got, you got guys that, that have played other places and been let go and they came here and Mike Vrabel gave him a shot. He's, he's only playing with guys who, who have bought into his culture. He said that that's the reason they traded away Keon White to The San Francisco 49ers and these guys, you could see it after every game, after every win or loss. He's given a hug to every single player as they enter the locker room. He's not, he's not, he's not just talking to talk. He's walking the walk. He's out there. Guys understand, they respect how, how, how high of a standard he holds this team to. And I think that's the important part. That's the part of football that's beyond X's and O's. Being a motivator, being a leader of men, being a person that can take clay and mold it into something special that can take a man and, and, and, and really push him to achieve his highest peak potential. And that's what I think Mike Rabel is getting. And that's the part of the, the New England Patriots that I can believe in is, is that these, these players believe something that the rest of the world does not. They believe they're super bowl contenders. And if they can and if, if, if Mike Vrabel is getting these men to believe that each and every week they're going to be a tough out in the playoffs because it's tough to believe and get a team to believe something that they, they don't like. It's tough to, to, to tell them that they can't be champions when they believe they can. And they go out there work and they've seen this, this formula work out of 12 weeks, they've seen it work 10 times. And Drake may hearing MVP chants this season in every stadium he's gone to, that means something. A guy who's developing into an elite quarterback. International Football League before your eyes. They, they're starting to develop a run game. Hunter Henry has his best game of the season. Seven catches for 115 yards and a touchdown. The defense, an interception in the Sack. They've won nine games straight for the first time since 2015. When you know who was playing quarterback then. The same guy who played quarterback in New England for the, the last couple decades before everything kind of fell apart. It's, it's hard for me to root against this team. Mitchell. They got the Baltimore Ravens. I mean they got the New York Giants next. And you, you there all people can, can speak to, to that team and, and, and how, you know, the record doesn't speak to how, how good of a team that is and how much of a challenge that's going to be. But I think the, the Patriots going to feel good. They're going to be favored in that game.
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Mitchell
No question about it. If they keep at this pace, Richard, they're going to get the one seed and then they're going to be able to prove to the world whether they truly belong or not. I mean, Cam Newton called the Patriots run fool sk and I think that's easy on its surface to say that based on the schedule, but the reality is, I mean, this team coming from who they were the last couple years to who they are now, I don't think you can call it fool's gold. I think this team has shown true toughness, resilience, and Mike Vrabel is at the forefront of that. Like you said, I'm a believer in the Patriots. Whether it's this year or not. I think they're going to be in that true contender category for the next five to 10 years as long as Drake May's around. They found themselves a real one at quarterback and they've got a great head coach. I'm loving what I'm seeing in New England. Let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens.
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Richard Sherman
Let me Let me just speak on On Cam Newton's Fool's goal Because it's, it's. I like Cam Newton. I like what he's been able to, to, to manufacture in his post playing career. I think he's, he's a good analyst and he, he does some really fun things. But Fool's goat is just such a lazy and short sighted take. You know, it's like oh, they, they, they had an easy record so they're not playing well. Like I need context. I need, I need you to help me understand. If you told me the Bears were fool's gold, I'd say, I don't know about that. But I could see you say, hey, they were down in majority of their games. They were losing in majority of their games. Sure they found a way to come back. But is that sustainable in the playoffs? I'm not sure. We'll see, but I want to see. I wish he would, would have expounded on what about them is Fool's Goat? Is it just because you, you don't think they're talented enough team and that their easy record is, has, has been a mirage and so their, their, their wins are a mirage. Like this is a National Football League and this, this season more than any season in recent memory has shown parity in the National Football League. Anybody can beat anybody. We watched the Miami Dolphins beat the Buffalo Bills. We watched the bank, we watched the Giants beat the Philadelphia Eagles. Like anything can happen on any given Sunday in the National Football League, especially this year. So when he says it's Fool's Gold, it's hard for me to support that without context, without you saying that, hey, fundamentally they're flawed because of this. They're playing good defense, they're playing sound defense. Offensively, Drake May is playing really good football. It's not like, hey, they're getting a lot of tip passes and he's just getting lucky, lucky play here and there or they're living off yak or something like that. They're playing in a sustainable way, in a way that you can sustain and playoff football. So I, when he says fool's Gold, I just can't, I don't see it that way.
- [71:47]
Mitchell
And not to mention they got Travion Henderson, the rookie running back at Ohio State who's really come on the last couple weeks. They now have a ground game to, to back Drake May. So I'm with you, Richard. I like the Pats. We'll see how they do the rest of the season. We'll see how they fare against, you know, true competition. If that's what Cam Newton wants to see. But now let's talk about this Ravens team. They started the season off 1 and 5. A lot of people, including myself, were wondering if they were out, they were going to lose this division. I. I thought there was too much to overco. That didn't take long. Five weeks later and they're now back on top of the AFC North. That did not take long at all. I know this is an easy question to answer, but is it safe to say that the Baltimore Ravens are going to win this division now?
- [72:33]
Richard Sherman
I don't know. No, it's not safe to say. Nothing's safe in the National Football League right now. So, no, it's not safe to say they're going to win AFC north regardless of how well they've played five straight. Congratulations. That's really great. But their next game is. Is the. The. The Cincinnati Bengals and then they play the Pittsburgh Steelers. They control their own destiny now. Can they go in there and beat the Bengals and beat the Steelers? Sure. Can they lose to the Steelers and lose to the Bengals? It wouldn't surprise me either way. This is going to be a struggle towards the end of the season for a lot of teams. It's going to be a grind. I don't think there's any givens right now for, for any team. So I'm. I'm looking forward to the way this plays out because there's no predicting anything. If, if it was predictable, then, you know, people wouldn't watch the NFL in the way they do. I think the reason the ratings are breaking records is because every team in every game, you feel like they have a chance. Sure, there are some blowouts. There are some games that get out of hand early, but for the most part this season, even teams that, that seem overmatched or undermanned in these games go out there and compete and potentially upset the other team. So I, I don't know, because. Do the Bengals show up in a big way and. And throw or does Flacco turn the ball over or are they going to play against. Are they going to play against Joe Burrow? Is he going to make his debut versus the Baltimore Ravens? There are so many different storylines and teams haven't given up on the season. So the Ravens should be proud of what they've done. But there were some plays. Obviously there's some rust still being knocked off for Lamar Jackson. He was 1323 for 153. He didn't look phenomenal fantastic in this game by any stretch of the imagination. Sure, they won the. The game because their defense Forced a fumble, got three sacks, another interception. They played well enough and put enough pressure on the jets and Tyrod Taylor to win this game. But this is the Jets. They've won two games on the season. They haven't looked great the entire season. They, they, they traded away their two best players at the trade deadline. So I don't know if this is a, a barometer for what, what the Ravens can be. I, and I'm not sure the, the Ravens, you know, with Jamar Chase being back, they'll be different and potentially Joe Burrow being back. They'll make it a game, no question about it. But no, I don't think you can count this, this division done at all. What a day Metro for Shador Sanders. He gets his first start and obviously perfect timing. Perfect timing. I don't know if you heard the song, Mitchell, but they were playing it during the broadcast. Perfect timing. It got to feel good to have your own song playing while you playing your hall of Fame dad in the stands watching you ball out. Had a number of explosive passes in the game. Did throw an interception that he's going to want back. An easy play to fix. He didn't look off the hook defender, the buzzer, buzzer, hooker, whatever you want to call them, but he didn't look him to the flat guy. Read his eyes, threw it right to him. But that can be corrected. The Browns did some weird things in the game with Judkins. I mean, it worked out. He got two touchdowns in the game, but a lot of wildcat taking the quarterback off the field. Most quarterbacks get pretty frustrated with that. But Shador Sanders was 11 of 22, oh 9, a touchdown, an interception, and was only sacked once. He had a, he had a screen pass that went for about 60 yards to Sampson. Jerry Judy caught one of his explosive passes and just looked way too nonchalant. Fumbled to football. Miles Garrett, though Miles Garrett breaks the single season sack record for the Cleveland Browns with, with 17. He ended up with 18. His 18 getting his 18th sack. He had three sacks, two force fumbles. The defense had 10 sacks in the game. I mean they beat, they beat poor Gino up in this game. It. Gino was 27 of 41, 248, a touchdown, but sacked 10 times. I mean he's going to be a nice tub all next week, I would imagine. But if you're a Browns fan, if you're a Shador fan, if you're, if you're a Shador enthusiast, because there's only, you know, so he's so polarizing. I think, I guess the subject of Shador is so polarizing that you're either you love him and you'll support him no matter what, or you're waiting for him to fail and everything you're critical of and you think he's bad and you're waiting for him to make the, the, the big mistake. And you don't think this is good enough to start for the Browns and, and you think that they should start Dylan Gabriel whenever he gets healthy enough to play. But if I'm on the outside looking in up semi objectively, because I mean, I'm not objective. I'm a Dion fan, so I'm a Shador fan. I was watching him at Colorado, so. But I can see it. If he played bad, why you wouldn't want him to play. But it just seemed like he brought a different element to the team. You could just see it on Miles Garrett face when he completed the. The long pass that should have been touchdown that led to their second touchdown of the game. He just, he was in disbelief. And I mean, you're talking about Miles Garrett being in disbelief. It's crazy. But I feel like the team played inspired football. They played with hope, they played excited. They, they, they were excited to be out there. Not that The Browns being 3 and 8 have much of anything to play for, but I definitely think this earned Shador Sanders another start. No question about that. I think you get better with reps and he needs more reps. He needs to get out there. He needs to take his chances. It looks like he's just, he, he really wants to push the ball down the field every single chance he gets. They protected him pretty well. Jerry Judy's gonna have to think not fumble the ball in that situation so he can continue drives. Judkins gonna continue the success he's had. And who knows? The Browns play the 49ers next. That's a big game for both sides. Again, the 49ers are going to need to have they play the Carolina Panthers tomorrow, as we know, which is a huge game. If they can win that game, this, this is gonna. Gonna end up being a really, really pivotal game for them. And they'll have to deal with Shador Sanders and all that means. So I'll say this. Congratulations to Shador Sanders on his first NFL touchdown. Even. Even if it's a screen that goes for 60 yards. Hey, you get it how you live. It ends up being a 60 yard pass for a touchdown. Fun game for him. I look forward to seeing him. It's exciting when he's part of the game and he's part of the discussion. Whether you love him or hate him, it's good for football and it's good for the Browns. And the Browns get their third win of the season against the Raiders, who will continue to struggle. Look like they're going to pick top three in the draft this year. No question about that. Hopefully they don't fire my guy, Pete Carroll. Please don't fire him. Please don't fire Pete. It ain't his fault. It's not a great team. I'm biased.
- [79:44]
Mitchell
You're not wrong, Richard. Don't fire Pete. Don't, don't put him, you know, don't make him the sacrificial lamb out there. Richard, before we leave this game, we got to talk about Miles Garrett. You said it. Franchise record. Best 18 sacks through 11 games. He's on pace for almost 28 sacks this season. Richard, that is mind boggling. Where does he stack up in your mind against the all time pass rushers in this league? Is he nearing the top of the list at this point?
- [80:12]
Richard Sherman
I mean, if he goes and gets 28 sacks this season, he's going to, he's going to make the name, he's going to make the decision easy for a lot of people. And, and again, I hate the whole conversation about who's the best all time when I didn't watch the other guys play and I'm not going to give, not that those other guys weren't great and Reggie White and, and obviously Lawrence weren't great players, but I didn't get to watch them, you know, and so I, I can say recognize their greatness and how everybody else, the, the, the esteem they're talked about and things like that. But I, I, I didn't get to watch him play. And so the guy I'm watching play, the sack record I think is 22, maybe 22 and a half. I think J.J. watt tied it one year. And so if Miles Garrett beats it by five and a half sacks, that, I mean that's silly territory. On a team that's rarely leading. Usually you, you get that if the team's, you know, your team's always up and you get the pass rush every game and you get to Mitchell, his team's always in a dog fight or they're losing. It's rare. Rarely a time where Miles Garrett is just getting a pin his ears back. Hey, we're, we're up two touchdowns. Let's go after him. They got a pass, obvious pass situations, but he's just one of the most dominant players in the National Football League in the history of the National Football League. So you tell me Mitchell, you tell me. I guess time will tell. But he's obviously one of the best to ever played this game.
- [81:43]
Mitchell
No question about it. And then finally Richard. We had a lot of good games today, but this one might have been one of the best of them. Dallas, down 21 in the first half, comes back in shocking fashion and upsets Philly 24 to 21 with a walk off Brandon Aubrey. Field goal to end the game Tired.
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- [86:13]
Mitchell
Richard these Cowboys look a lot better than they have in the last few weeks. George Pickens looks like he's got a Pro bowl season brewing, Javante Williams career resurgence in Dallas, and Dak Prescott looks like he's having fun out there again. The Cowboys are 5, 5 and 1 right now, and it seems Jerry Jones's mid season trade has helped this team. Are you starting to see the light with Jerry's moves right now?
- [86:42]
Richard Sherman
Yeah, yeah, you can see. You can see the vision, no question about it. But I guess the big story is the offense. You got to give the defense credit, they did not allow the Philadelphia Eagles to score a point in the second half. That should be applauded, that should be celebrated. That's a huge deal for the super bowl champs not to score a point in the second half, but the offense. You're talking about George Pickens, you're talking about a Pro bowl caliber season. I'd be really surprised if he's not a Pro Bowler and maybe he'd get a couple of all pro votes just because it's the, it's the Dallas Cowboys. It's the one of the biggest markets in the world. He's playing really good football. He's playing good in big moments. And if this team can, can scratch and claw their way back into playoff contention, that'd be huge. Dak Prescott, 23, 36, 354, two touchdowns. He did have the one interception, but again, this is what Dak Prescott is capable of. The concerning part for the Dallas Cowboys honestly has been CD Lamb and them able to have this success with CD Lamb having seven registered drops in the last two games. He had three in this game, including one in the end zone. So them able, being able to overcome those, those issues and, and play as well as they have, especially in the second half and, and able to, to, to capture this momentum against the reigning super bowl champs, a division rival in Dallas. You could hear the fans into it the entire game. A season that looked like it was lost early on. It's starting to look like it may, you know, they may have a chance. We'll see how it continues to progress. But for the Philadelphia Eagles, this game started off as a dream scenario and then slowly but surely deteriorated. You look up and you say A.J. brown has been really frustrated. They got him involved early. He had a touchdown early on, got his yardage end up with eight catches for 110 yards in a touchdown. You feel really good about that. You felt really good about how much they got AJ Brown involved again, say Quan Barkley non existent. 10 carries for 22 yards. That doesn't make a lot of sense and that has to be solved. Is it the offensive line? You got to give Dallas credit because they got some run stoppers now they got some run stoppers. Quentin Quinn Williams is not, is not getting moved out of there. They're, they're not getting moved out of there very easily. They got guys who can detach us that are great against the run, stout, I mean, great against the run. They're stout, they can pass rush. But Saquon BARKLEY Only getting 10 carries for 22 yards is going to be the issue. That'll be the Achilles heel that ends and dooms the Philadelphia Eagles this season if they do not get that corrected. And again, Kevin Patulo, these are questions he's going to have to answer. When they had Kellen Moore, not that he's perfect, but the offense ran it, it hummed. You talked about offensive player of the year Saquan Barkley. You were talking about Jaylen Herz's potential MVP candidate. Jaylen Herz had a, had a really good game. 2739, 289, a touchdown. He was only sacked once in the game, but it was a huge sack on third down by a Diggy Zua. A play that they needed on a. I think this was their last drive of the game which allowed, which forced them to punt. And I gave the the Dallas Cowboys a chance in this game to go down and kick the game winning field goal, which they did. I don't know what the answers are, but I know that the the Philadelphia Eagles are playing on Black Friday and they got the Chicago Bears coming into town. They Both teams are 8 and 3. It's got to be the game of the week. It's a matchup. I'm most excited for a Chicago team so eager to prove itself in a Philadelphia Eagles team that's got a lot of turmoil. And I'm sure that this will not help what's going on in that locker room.
- [90:34]
Mitchell
No question about it. And let's be real, the number one seeds up for grabs at this point too in that game. So you know, this is a huge game for both teams. We talked about it off air, but the Eagles, you know, kind of fell apart that second half up 21 nothing. And the Dallas Cowboys just kind of leaned on them and leaned on them and finally they broke giving up 18 points in that fourth quarter. And you express concerns about the D line, the interior of the D line for the Philadelphia Eagles and their overuse. They're the amount of time that they're playing. What, what do you make of this? The lack of depth at the defensive tackle position for the Philadelphia Eagles?
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Richard Sherman
It's concerning. And in every one of their losses you could see that's the issue in the fourth quarter. That's where they give up a majority of their points because they're playing Davis and Carter too much. Usually when, when you're talking about D tackles, you talk about 65% of the plays, maybe 70% of the plays. There's a good rotation. You put other guys in there you spell them sometimes, but these guys are playing a very high percentage of the plays for the Philadelphia Eagles and they're wearing down by the fourth quarter in a lot of these games. Not, not because they're out of shape or because, oh man, they're not ready for these moments. They're, they're probably in the best shapes of their lives and they're playing at a high level for a majority of these games. But you cannot expect guys that big to play that much. It's just how it's just been proven in the NFL for so long. You got to have some depth, you got to rotate them in and now allow them to get breathers, allow them to get rest so they can be strong and healthy and, and fresh in the fourth quarter. And that's not what's happening for the Philadelphia Eagles. So a lot of these games that you see are coming down to the wire. And although Jaylen Carter and Davis are making plays down the stretch, they are playing a lot of snaps and you cannot expect them to be as dominant as they would be if they had a little bit more rest and a little, when they were a little fresher. But you can tell the Philadelphia Eagles don't trust the other guys that they would be bringing in and that's why they're forced to play that much. Hopefully they can get it figured out. But again, the trade deadline is passed. There aren't really any big time free agents I'm sure out there that they feel good about. So this is how it's going to be. But that's. Right now the biggest issue for the Philadelphia Eagles is they're not able to get the same pass rush, the same, the same stoutness against the run on the interior defensive line because they're so worn down late in these games. And you, you look at the Denver Broncos game, they scored 18 unanswered points in the fourth after, after, not after scoring, I believe seven the entire game through three quarters. And then you look at this game and, and the, The Cowboys score 10 unanswered and going to win this game. And again, you gotta find a way to, to, to, to spell these guys and allow them to be fresher in the fourth quarter and also find some offense. All odds and lines come from our partners at Hard Rock Bet. We've got the Panthers versus the 49ers on Monday Night Football tomorrow. Hard Rock Bet has the 49ers a seven point spread in this game. I think the San Francisco 49ers, it's gonna be a little closer than that. This is gonna be a field goal game, Mitchell, in my opinion, just because of the way Bryce Young played in the last game, especially near the end way he was able to come on the, the chemistry he's building with Tetra Royal McMillan and, and Rico Dowdle. Rico Dowdle is starting to, starting to show himself as one, as a really good runner in this, in this league and, and has taken over as their number one back. Gonna be a closer game than you wanna, you might think, Richard.
- [94:20]
Mitchell
I can't pick a better time to debut this hat. Take a look at this bad boy. Man.
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Richard Sherman
I like that one.
- [94:27]
Mitchell
Crispy, right?
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Richard Sherman
Crisp.
- [94:28]
Mitchell
Yeah. Well, it's because I got the, the Niners winning. I got the Niners covering too. I, I know you think that it's going to be a tighter game, you know, within seven points I, I got the Niners covering that spread. I also have Christian McCaffrey continuing his dominance, scoring the first TD of the game, plus Rico Dowdle. Holy cow. Like you said, what a resurgence from this guy. Cast off from the Dallas Cowboys, comes over behind Chubba Hubbard in Carolina and has taken over that backfield. I think he's going to score a touchdown as well. And here's a bonus. I think Brian Robinson Jr gets a TD as well. I mean they've been giving him the ball inside that five yard line. I expect Brian Robinson to get another one. Carolina has given up 13 red zone rushing touchdowns this year, Richard. So there's your helpful hint with Brian Robinson to score Richard Brig. Big news in San Francisco. Everyone was waiting for the comeback of Brandon Iuk. Well, I don't think that's going to happen. It looks like they're parting ways. How stunning of a move is this? Are you shocked by this or does this, Is this something that you saw coming, Mitchell?
- [95:37]
Richard Sherman
Unfortunately, I had a little bit more inside information, so it's not as shocking for me, but it, it's shocking that it's going to play out this way because this scenario at this point in the season helps nobody. And I'm not blaming any particular person. I'm not blaming BA I'm not blaming the 49ers, etc, but, but I think BA coming back and doing his best to, to. To play as well as he can helps the San Francisco 49ers and it helps Brandon Auk. I think the position of Brandon Auk not playing anymore this season and The San Francisco 49ers, not like that doesn't help anybody. If BA doesn't play this season and he, he gets cut at the end of the year, that does nothing to help anybody. And I think if he doesn't play, that's the most likely scenario. But I just don't understand why that would be the case. Why. Why you would make that decision as a player. And everybody has their own reason for. Reasons for doing things. But if you're a player and you want out, you. I don't agree with this. I don't want to help this team. That's understandable. But your interests are aligned. Unfortunately, you doing good, you doing well helps the team do well. The team doing well and you doing well helps everybody. It helps increase your value so that if you do want to go to another team, they'll want to trade you. They want to trade for you instead of. Instead of you getting cut and your salary going away and then signing you to a. To a much lower deal where you make a lot less money and it'll take you a lot more time to make the same amount of money you would have made if you were able to just stay on the contract you're on. So if you're Brandon Iuk and you're like, hey, I don't want to help this team, okay? But helping them helps you. So going out there and being the best possible receiver you can be, showing that you are the receiver that. That. That you were when The San Francisco 49ers paid you $30 million a year only helps your case, even if you want to go somewhere else. But sitting out does not. Sitting out. Put your pride before your pocket. And if you put your pride before your pocket, that's something I cannot understand because it doesn't help your family, it doesn't help you, and it doesn't help your. Your. The. The. The point you're trying to prove. And so that's the point I don't get. I. Hopefully. Hopefully he's able to get out there and play and. And show what he can do and either continue with the San Francisco 49ers or get traded and be able to make the money that he deserves somewhere else. Because I always want the guys to make the money that they. That they've earned. And I never want to see a situation where a guy is. Is giving money back. Well, as always, guys, we appreciate you joining us. You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us, and we sure do appreciate it. We'll see you tomorrow night after The San Francisco 49ers game. Stay tuned.
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Sophie Cunningham
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This episode is brought to you by PBS, home of Ken Burns. His newest film, the American Revolution, reveals untold stories of people, some familiar, many forgotten, who risked everything to change the course of history. It's the story of a war that was bloody, complex and profoundly consequential. Ken Burns and his co directors Sarah Botstein and David Schmidt shine a light on how this historic fight for independence lit the spark for freedom that still burns today. The American Revolution premieres Sunday, November 16th at 8.7Central on PBS and the PBS app Don't miss it.
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Sophie Cunningham
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