Richard Sherman Podcast - Sherman x Slay: Rodgers’ vintage form, Ja’Marr Chase matchup, Baker MVP talk & Steelers Top 5?

Summary

The Richard Sherman Podcast: Sherman x Slay – “Rodgers’ Vintage Form, Ja’Marr Chase Matchup, Baker MVP Talk & Steelers Top 5?”

Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts & The Volume)
Airdate: October 14, 2025
Guests: Richard Sherman (Host), Darius "Big Play" Slay (Guest)

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Episode Overview

This episode features Richard Sherman and returning guest, All-Pro cornerback Darius "Big Play" Slay. The duo dive into hot topics across the NFL week, including the resurgence of Aaron Rodgers, Slay’s experiences adjusting to a new division, a preview of a blockbuster matchup against Ja’Marr Chase, debate over Baker Mayfield's MVP candidacy, and a spirited debate about top NFL teams. Their tone is candid, competitive, and often humorous, offering insight into the mindset of elite defensive backs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up & International Experiences

• Slay recaps a recent trip to Ireland for a game, enjoying the atmosphere and expanding the reach of NFL football overseas.
• The trip was marred for one player by a robbery (“They lucky I wouldn’t there, I’d have been spanking on one of them ILM kid people”–Slay [01:22]), but overall, the experience was positive.

2. Steelers Defense: From Question Marks to Strength

• Discussion centers on the Steelers' defense finally playing together at full strength for the first time in the season, leading to a dominant win over the Browns (held under 10 points).
• Early injuries hampered cohesiveness: “This is the first time that we had the complete defense…a lot of guys went out week one…This is our first time actually playing together as one.” – Slay [02:22]
• “It was fun, man. I ain’t gonna lie, man. It was kind of fun.” – Slay [02:22].

3. AFC vs. NFC: Differences & Division Strengths

• Slay notes the physicality and “run-heavy” style of AFC football compared to the NFC, finding the adjustment significant ([03:16]).

4. Aaron Rodgers’ ‘Vintage’ Form

• Rodgers’ connection with DK Metcalf is highlighted as a key to the team's offensive surge:
  • “A-Rod in his bag, man. Hey, look, he been making a lot of plays…him and DK with a very much connection, man. It’s getting better and better each and every week.” – Slay [03:48]
  • Despite Rodgers playing at an MVP level, a balanced offense and strong defense mean “we try and do everything with our power to make sure that A-Rod don’t have to be A-Rod.” – Slay [04:35].

5. The One That Got Away: Missed Turnovers

• Reflection on dropping four interception opportunities against a rookie QB (Dylan Gabriel), with playful banter about missed stats:
  • “That’s what we just talked about today, bro. We dropped four of them…” – Slay [05:01]
  • “I could have had one, too…” – Slay [05:31]
• Sherman ribs Slay's secondary for letting the rookie throw “52 times and nobody booked him” ([05:01]).

6. Locker Room Energy & Coaching Philosophy

• Mike Tomlin (“Mike T”) keeps the Steelers “mellow” and focused:
  • “He keep us mellow, man. And we just know what kind of opportunity we got in front of us.” – Slay [07:07]
  • “All you gotta do is win your division…that’s the goal.” – Slay [07:18]

7. Intra-Division Trades and ‘Loyalty’ in the NFL

• Analysis of the Browns trading Joe Flacco to a division rival, described as a “wild” and rare move ([08:08]).
• Extended riff on Myles Garrett’s loyalty to the Browns, with Sherman noting:
  • “You chose to be a Cleveland Brown…This is what you’re signing up for…Post season, probably not Super Bowl – only when you’re going to the bathroom.” – Sherman [09:11]
  • Both empathize with Garrett’s elite talent being “wasted” on a perennially rebuilding team ([10:34]).

8. Stadium Turf Woes & Home Field Disadvantage

• Rodgers called the field in Pittsburgh “borderline unplayable” ([11:42]), and Slay agrees, noting it felt like “playing in sand,” with kickers risking injury ([11:57], [12:46]).

9. Social Media, Criticism & Aging in the NFL

• The pressure of media narratives, misinterpreted stats (yards allowed), and social media backlash are discussed, with Slay pushing back on misleading coverage stats ([22:01]).
• Sherman quips: “Whoever run this, PFF…y’all gots to know the difference between man and zone.” – Sherman [22:01]

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10. Preview: Steelers vs. Bengals, Ja’Marr Chase Showdown

• Big Play Slay electrifies the matchup: “Jamar Chase is one of the best Yak receivers I’ve probably seen in a long time…he gave me the whole Odell vibe…” – Slay [15:12]
• Expectation that Jalen Ramsey may “follow” Chase; rivalry and redemption factors highlighted ([16:41]).

11. Off-Field: Supporting Former Teammates

• Slay shares about returning as a fan to watch Eagles games and supporting former colleagues ([18:09]).
• “If I got a chance to show love to, you know, a friend of mine in them kind of areas, I’m always gonna do that.” – Slay [19:15]

12. Young DBs & Defensive Philosophy

• Advice for up-and-coming cornerbacks:
  • “Stay consistent. That’s the only way you can stand this league.” – Slay [20:44]
  • Both agree on “living by the percentage,” taking calculated defensive risks ([21:07]–[21:43]).

13. Mental Toll of Aging in the NFL

• Honest talk about leaving the game when you can no longer meet your standards:
  • “If somebody catch a little hitch or whatever, that’s cool…but if you on them big play reels…You don’t be that long.” – Slay [20:49]
  • “I saw Xavian on there … said ‘I’d rather go spend time with my family if it’s gonna be like this’.” – Sherman [23:16]
  • “It hurts your soul.” – Sherman [23:45]

14. Unlucky Injuries: Charvarius Ward Incident

• Story of Charvarius Ward missing a game after a pregame collision led to a concussion ([25:27]), highlighting the unpredictable hazards in the NFL.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Aaron Rodgers’ play:
  “A-Rod in his bag, man…he controlling the offense…” – Slay [03:48]

• On missed interceptions:
  “My boy Juan…he had two opportunities and dropped both…hit him in his face…” – Slay [05:08]

• On the Browns’ “rebuilding” cycle:
  “Them boys been in a rebuild like they’re in a war zone. Every time they build the building back up. Boom, boom. Back down.” – Sherman [10:06]

• On Ja’Marr Chase:
  “He put his foot in the ground and get vertical…after the catch is just amazing…” – Slay [15:12]

• On social media and fan criticism:
  “Boy, I’m in my young days, boy…at the game, I go type my name in on Twitter, see what they be talking about.” – Slay [13:41]

• On defensive back strategy:
  “Y’all can throw hitches, I tackle hitches and comebacks…when y’all fall, I’m catching it and we’ll call it even.” – Sherman [21:07]

• On feeling 'old' in the league:
  “If you on them big play reels…you don’t be that long.” – Slay [20:49]

• On Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders' era:
  “Nobody that has never played in the NFL should be speaking about who can play and who can't play in this era…The skill set Irv and Deion had, it translates.” – Sherman [27:08]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:39] – Greetings, Ireland recap, overseas NFL expansion
• [01:18] – Incident involving a teammate in Ireland
• [02:22] – Defensive health and chemistry, shifting perceptions
• [03:48] – Aaron Rodgers resurgence and DK Metcalf partnership
• [05:01] – Dropped interceptions and rookie QB play
• [07:07] – Inside the Steelers’ locker room energy
• [08:08] – Analysis of shocking QB trade within division
• [09:11] – On Myles Garrett’s choice to stay in Cleveland
• [11:42] – Stadium field negatives, equipment struggles
• [14:42] – Game plan for Ja’Marr Chase, receiver matchups
• [18:09] – Slay returns to Philly as a supporter, not just a player
• [20:44] – Advice for young DBs: Consistency is key
• [25:27] – Charvarius Ward’s pregame concussion story
• [27:08] – Defending Deion & Irvin against era-based criticism
• [33:47] – Titans fire head coach; management, roster moves criticized
• [36:27] – Fallout from trading away AJ Brown, Derrick Henry
• [37:08] – Tua Tagovailoa calls out teammates; leadership & locker room culture
• [38:12] – Power rankings chaos: top teams underperforming
• [39:43] – Slay’s and Sherman’s revised power rankings
• [41:25] – Final takes on team rankings, MVP race shifts (Baker Mayfield)
• [42:09] – Episode close and goodbyes

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Additional Highlights

• Strong defense of Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders’ ability to thrive in today’s NFL, pushing back against modern-era bias ([27:08]).
• Colorful, behind-the-scenes anecdotes about current players’ mindset and how veterans view changing narratives and pressures.
• Honest criticism of franchise mismanagement (Titans, Browns), highlighting how front office decisions hamstring on-field success.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a comprehensive, insider-driven look at the state of the NFL in mid-October 2025. Richard Sherman and Darius “Big Play” Slay combine detailed X’s and O’s breakdowns with candid, personal perspectives, making it a must-listen for fans seeking depth and personality behind the headlines. Key stories include Aaron Rodgers’ continued excellence, the unique demands facing Pittsburgh, and under-discussed facets of player careers, such as public perception, team culture, and how NFL history connects with today's stars.

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Transcript

[Big Play Slay]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Richard Sherman]

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[Richard Sherman]

Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And you know what time it is. It's time to welcome our special guest back to the show. My guy, Big play slay. How you doing, brother?

[Big Play Slay]

What's good, my guy? I'm good, man. How you been?

[Richard Sherman]

How you been? I've been good, man. I'm not as good as you.

[Big Play Slay]

You.

[Richard Sherman]

You got a little break. Y' all been winning.

[Big Play Slay]

You.

[Richard Sherman]

You made it back from Ireland safely.

[Big Play Slay]

Safely at that. You know what I'm saying? But it was a good trip, man. We're not there for sure to handle business. I got a chance to go a little city. City a little bit, but, man, it was good though, man. It was big time game. The environment was good, the fans was exciting. It was great to show, you know, American football out the country. So we had a good time, man.

[Richard Sherman]

Definitely. Somebody didn't rob there.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, man. Apparently we had a guy that had that happen, man. Thankfully they lucky I wouldn't though, because I'd have been spanking on one of them ILM kid people around there, man. We don't play that around here, you know, so.

[Richard Sherman]

Right, right, right.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We know. Shout out to my boy, man. You know, he's doing well and everything.

[Richard Sherman]

He's hanging in there, huh?

[Big Play Slay]

He hanging in there. He good, though. But I should tell him something, man. He need to bring the right ones with him.

[Richard Sherman]

Right, right, right, right. Big next time, bring big play, apparently. Well, y' all just coming off a big win against the Browns, a division opponent. Y' all held him under 10 points, played really well. Your offense score some points. It looks like the connection between DK Metcalf and, and. And Aaron Rodgers is getting better and better. It looks like the defense is starting to jail. There was question marks early in the season, A lot of conversations, a lot of speculation of sorts about, you know, is this defense getting old, you know, a bunch of old guys. But, you know, sometimes when you don't play together for a while and you start to feel each other out, you start to figure it out and it's starting to look like you guys are coming together.

[Big Play Slay]

Oh, yeah, man. This is the first time that we had the complete defense, man. You know, a lot of guys went out week one. You know, Joey went out week one, shoot. Hodson Smith went out week one, shoot. Ali. A lot of desean went down week one too. You know, we had guys that was in and out, in and out on all both sides, everywhere. So this is our first time actually playing together as one, you know, as a complete, healthy defense going into this game. And, man, I could say we did put on a great dominance performance, but we left some plays out there. You know, we should have had some more turnovers, but overall, man, we played great, man. It was good to see us all out there. And it was fun, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. It was kind of fun. And then my first time playing the AFC division again, you know, they. I'm trying to compare the love of the NFC and afc. I'm with the AFC right now, you know what I'm saying? Because it's light. But hey, the NFC division game, they're a little bit. They're a little different, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Richard Sherman]

Right, right, right.

[Big Play Slay]

But I understand the beating. They say over here, there's a lot of top run heavy and trying to abuse you around here, but it was good. It was. It was a good one for my first time.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah. This division looking a little different than it usually does. You know, usually you got multiple MVP candidates playing for the other teams. And Burrow and Lamar, both of them have been injured. You. We. We haven't heard when Burrow's coming back. Lamar's been down. They won in five, which is just insane. But talk about. Talk about Aaron Rodgers and how he's been, because he's looking very vintage right now.

[Big Play Slay]

Hey, look, a robin in his bag, man. Hey, look, he been making a lot of plays. I must say that, man, watching that, watching him on offense, him and DK with a very much connection, man. It's getting great. It's getting better and better each and every week. As you see, he getting way more comfortable with a lot of guys. He's starting to make a lot more plays with other guys too, as well. Even though DK is having a monster. I think he scored a touchdown in the last four or five games, and he. He's not playing right now. He's on his high horse right now. Uh, but, man, a Rod just. He controlling the offense. Uh, and we doing what we need to do, man. I think right now, like I said, try to tell folks, even though Aaron Rodgers wants to be the MVP player, as he's. As he always been, you know, of course he playing at a great level right now. But of course, with the run game working right now, that gives him a break, you know, and the defense playing as good as we need to, that gives them breaks. So we try and do everything with our power to make sure that a rod don't have to be a rod, you know what I'm saying? Not to discourage him or nothing like that. Cause he still had that ability. But we don't want him to be that great.

[Richard Sherman]

But, but, but, but. Big play, Big play, y'. All. Y' all defense played really well. Y' all had six sacks. Jalen Ramsey had two. And, yeah, the. The word is he was playing injured and went out there and gave it everything he got. That was pretty cool to hear. But y' all let the rookie throw 52 times and nobody booked him.

[Big Play Slay]

Hey, that's what we just talked about today, bro. We dropped four of them. You know what I'm saying?

[Richard Sherman]

Four of them boys saying.

[Big Play Slay]

That's what we said. That's why I said, we got to get a little bit better, man. We dropped four. My boy. My boy Juan, he came from Cleveland. Cleveland released him. He had two opportunities and dropped both on one of them. Hit him in his face, you know what I'm saying? And at one of them, he got in my way. I was in the picket, and he. I like, hey, bro, look here, if you don't want it, please, I'm trying to get in this 30 club and you out here playing. Right?

[Richard Sherman]

Right.

[Big Play Slay]

You know what I'm saying? I could have had one, two as well, so.

[Richard Sherman]

But y' all just didn't want Shador to get something in the game. I understand y' all didn't. Y'.

[Big Play Slay]

All.

[Richard Sherman]

Y' all didn't want to pick him off four times and let get Shador get some momentum and get a chance to play. I'm starting to see what y' all doing. Big play.

[Big Play Slay]

Hey, Sam, he tried to do that, you know what I'm saying? But we.

[Richard Sherman]

We.

[Big Play Slay]

Hey, if he threw for him or not, he put him in there. Hey, we love Shador. Hey, look, I got a lot of love for you, Shadow, but shoot, we would have been trying to pick you four times, too. You know what I mean? That's the goal. We just, you know, we just competitive, but, hey, we trying to do our job, man. So we. Hey, we hope for any one of them guys, man. We was. We looking forward to playing any one of them.

[Richard Sherman]

How was. How was the rookie? Dylan Gabriel? You know, obviously, when you're a veteran, you've been in this league, you expect certain things from vet quarterbacks, but a young guy comes in, he doesn't know all the tricks. You can bait him into a little bit more. You can show him a little sugar and. And. And steal it. Well, obviously, y' all showed him a lot of sugar and didn't steal it, but sheesh.

[Big Play Slay]

Come on, sir. Man, get off of us, baby.

[Richard Sherman]

All right. No. Hell no. Y'.

[Big Play Slay]

All.

[Richard Sherman]

Y' all boys. Y' all boys was out there. That boy threw it 52 times.

[Big Play Slay]

Hey, look, we tried, man. We tried. We dropped so many, too. I'm talking about so many, bro. So.

[Richard Sherman]

I know that. I know that, chinky. I know that. Fine jars full full of, man.

[Big Play Slay]

Boy, we're going. Hey, you're going to have a nice little trip planned for somewhere.

[Richard Sherman]

What else is going on with this team? Y' all got such a veteran team. It seems like y' all getting healthy at the right time. Offense is thriving. The rest of the teams in the division are starting to struggle. What is the energy like in the building right now?

[Big Play Slay]

Uh, it's. It's cool, man. You know, one thing about Mike, man, Mike T, he keep it. He keep building mellow. There's no high horse, no high race. He just. You know, he just look at every day as a day to a day to get better. So he keep us mellow, man. And we just know what kind of opportunity we got in front of us. And like I said, man, it's a little different in the league because, you know what I'm saying, all you gotta do is win your division to be. You know, it don't matter if you're 8, 9 team, as long as you win your division, you smooth. So that's the goal, and that's the plan, as always. So we just continue to take one game at a time. And right now, you know, we just had one of our division games. We got another one coming up this Thursday, so we got to handle business, man, because this gives a jump start up ahead of a lot of teams.

[Richard Sherman]

Mike tmade headline this week talking about Joe Bear, talking about Joe Barry and what he did for the Cleveland Browns and trading Joe Flacco to a division opponent, division rival. And now y' all gotta play him this week in Cincinnati. What did you think about that? I mean, it is kind of weird. I. You don't hear very many times the guys straighten Away a day one starter to a division opponent.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, that's what I was saying. I was surprised. You know what I'm saying? I would have thought they went to somewhere else, but they went in a division. Get your team like, you'll start day one starter. So if y' all ever play each other again, when y' all play each other again, he. He knows the playbook very handy. Well, so he was the day one starter on that end. So it's like. I don't know, man. I don't know if they. If they just riding the high horse and just say, we finna throw in the towel anyway or whatever, or we could see what we could get for Joe to get ready for this next year to build behind these guys we got already here. But that was wild to me. That's like. I don't know, man. I ain't never seen that back up a third string or something.

[Richard Sherman]

And then. And then you see. You see, and this is what I don't like. Look, I love Miles Garrett's death. Miles Garrett was like. They were like, miles Garrett, are you. Are you sick of losing the same way? He's like, yeah, I'm sick of losing. Look, Miles, Miles. Miles off. I'm speaking to you direct. You chose to be a Cleveland Brown. Everybody on this. On this planet then called to trade for you. You said, no, I'm going to be loyal to Cleveland. Respect.

[Big Play Slay]

Respect.

[Richard Sherman]

This is what you're signing up for. A lifetime of this. A couple more years of this. Hey, post season, probably not super bowl, only when you're going to the bathroom. That's what you signed up for. But that was a good one. That's a bar. That was a bar. Hey, like, that's what he signed up for. And it's like if he ever. If he was ever available, every team will be sitting there counting their coins to try to figure out how they could get him in the building. Every. And I would have guessed your guys in the Philadelphia would. Would be number one on the list and somehow figure out how to get him. Because they always doing something like that. Their GM is the king of making moves like that. Yeah, but. But Miles Garrett, everybody feels sorry for you. Well, felt sorry for you. But it's harder to feel sorry for you when you won't leave. You won't leave. You can't expect. You know the definition of insanity? Big play is doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting a different result. You ain't getting a different result out there, baby. They got young. They In a rebuild. Another one, Another one like DJ Khaled. Them boys been in a re. Them boys been in a rebuild like they're in a war zone. Every time they build the building back up. Boom, boom. Back down. Build it back up.

[Big Play Slay]

They collapse it every time, man. As soon as it feel like the house get halfway done, it's just like the three little pigs come blow it down.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah, the big bad wolf comes and blows it down. And the big bad wolf is everybody in your division. They blowing.

[Big Play Slay]

They blowing it down. Man, I feel bad for him, man. Cause he's a hell of a player, man. One of probably our best players we ever see play this game in that DN position. Most generational talent, Eagles seed and. And probably would never ever get a taste of that Super Bowl.

[Richard Sherman]

Well, yeah, I feel bad for him. I feel bad.

[Big Play Slay]

I feel bad. I feel bad for him for sure, man. He a damn good player too, man. Damn great player. Not even good. That ain't great. He great. Great.

[Richard Sherman]

He's a great player.

[Big Play Slay]

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[Richard Sherman]

You feeling good about your stadium? You know, I know y' all share the field with the. With the college team, with University of Pittsburgh, but Aaron Rodgers said today that that field is borderline unplayable. Did you feel that way? Y' all out. You out there with the screws in.

[Big Play Slay]

Look, look here. I never had to put screw ins in America. You know, I did it out the country. Cause you play in London, all the grass slippery. They got soccer field. This, this game here, like, after just being this time, this is my second time playing in this stadium as a home game. And the fact that I feel like I'm playing in sand and not no offense to the stadium. Like, the stadium is amazing. The atmosphere is amazing. It's. It just like, hey, man, like, this is bad. Like, I'm running in sand a little bit. And I watched our kicker, man, he down there about broke his ankle trying to kick the ball and he. They trying to mess up his money right there because he was a perfect, perfect right now. You know what I'm saying? And he already had his time out sitting out About a little deal, trying to get some money. And I know them GMs, they go, bring that up.

[Richard Sherman]

You miss one, right? Hey, you got a very specific set of skills. Yeah. And you miss one, though.

[Big Play Slay]

You can't miss. And you miss one and ain't gonna blame no grabs. They gonna bring nothing to that. They go, so, man, you know what I'm saying? I only signed a one year deal, so I ain't gonna be the one to change it.

[Richard Sherman]

You ain't gonna be the one to change Big play. You dang sure ain't gonna be the one to change it.

[Big Play Slay]

I love everything about Pittsburgh, but, boy, that feel is a little. A little something else there. Now, I ain't gonna lie about that, but, you know, usually I probably, like, be at battle, but I'm like, nah, I can't. I'm a db. And if I get up top, pork chop, because I'm stuck in sand.

[Richard Sherman]

Or you slip. Slay your trash. Get him out of here.

[Big Play Slay]

He's old now. I'm everything in the book, right?

[Richard Sherman]

They waiting to say that. They already got that message type, slay your trash. They waiting to hit enter. Did it just. He batted it there?

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[Big Play Slay]

Damn. Damn. I already know it, man. You know, boy, I'm in my young days, boy. At the game, I go type my name in on Twitter, see what they be talking about. So.

[Richard Sherman]

Are you crazy?

[Big Play Slay]

I want to quote some people, boy, I used to do it heavy. I just do it real bad. Might stop. Had to stop because it doesn't get to me a little bit.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah, yeah, it get to you. It get to your spirit. Don't let it get in there.

[Big Play Slay]

It get in my spirit every time.

[Richard Sherman]

And speaking of Joe Flacco, y' all got to play them this week on a short, short week. Your guy, Joy Porter Jr. Said, this is what y' all built for. This is what y' all brought you and Big Ramsey and. And got him to deal with these guys to deal with Higgins and Jamar Chase, the big dogs and. And. And the other receiver, I, who I don't want to even name right now because he couldn't catch a cold in the snowstorm last week. I felt bad. I said. I said, I don't. They had. They would have had a chance in that game had, had, had. Josevash just caught a few passes. I mean, you could understand the tough ones, but I'm like, routines, these. You know what I mean?

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah.

[Richard Sherman]

If you ain't got these and you a receiver, you don't need to be out there. You're not 100% sure they need to watch the game.

[Big Play Slay]

I haven't watched the game, so I might have to check that out.

[Richard Sherman]

Don't worry. It's on the tape. It's on the tape. That boy sled open, drop, curl open.

[Big Play Slay]

Can't happen.

[Richard Sherman]

Damn, Flacco. But. But tell me, how you feeling about these dudes coming into this game, Man, I'm great, man.

[Big Play Slay]

It's gonna be a great matchup, man. I know that's the first thing Mike T. Told us when me and Rams got here, man. You know, we. They got some dominant guys in the division, as you know, some receivers at this level, so. And he specifically said this day and this team, Cincinnati, you know, with Chase and no more over there. So it gonna be a great matchup, man. I got. I got a chance to play against them guys last year, except for Higgins. Higgins didn't play last year when I was in Philly, but I got a chance to play with Chase. Both of them tremendous, man. They got. Both got tremendous talent. Both of them got great catch radius. I for sure know that Jamar Chase is one of the best Yak receivers I've probably seen in a long time. He. He gave me the whole Odell vibe, you know, se. Odell had great hands, but he's. He have the best hands, you know what I'm saying? I. I think Chase has some of the most best hands I've seen that can get upfield just like he's Odell Beckham, like this. Put his foot in the ground and get vertical. Cause I watched the play last year, man, where he caught that damn slant on the Ravens and got out of there, and then he had the damn screen on the Ravens. Got up out of there like his after the catch is just amazing, man. That's why he's one of the highest paid receivers in the league and one of the best in the business. It's gonna be a great matchup, man. So I'm looking forward to it, man. Cause, hey, that's what I signed up for.

[Richard Sherman]

And, well, I don't want to give away y' all game plan or how you tell nothing that ain't out there already, but is there any following this week? Because I know Jalen, this is one of those games where he would sit there and be like, I got one slay. You got everybody else.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, it's. It's up in the air right now because we just had, you know, I'm saying it's a Thursday game. We just got done playing, so I Just left work, you know what I'm saying? We just did a little me and just a little walk through. So we ain't really go down over the crazy report they go give us to tomorrow. But I know Jay. Most likely that's gonna be the idea. That's just probably gonna be the idea. You know, Jay. And then I know how Jay is. Jay want his get back, too. Cause he didn't play the best way he could in that super bowl. And so he. He kind of wanted to get back.

[Richard Sherman]

I said, hey. I said, look, everybody. Everybody want to get back. Sometimes you get back is hard to get.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, they'd be hard to get, though. And sometimes don't.

[Richard Sherman]

Don't get again when you try to get back, you know. Don't get again. I'm a preacher. Don't get again when you're trying.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, he'll be ready a lot dead.

[Richard Sherman]

No, I know it's going to be a good matchup. I look forward to seeing it. They can't block for Flacco. They ain't going to be able to stop TJ Watt and Cam and them boys anyway. Like them boys had. Them boys got getting hot at the right time. They bringing pressure already. Cincinnati's offensive line is one of the worst, if not the worst, offensive lines in the National Football League. At some point, they might call you to get over there and get in the way, Slay. I mean, at this point, but on social media. Oh, goodness. You know what I'm saying? Where's your off week? Big play. Your fans caught you in Philadelphia? Yeah. One thing I love about you, Slay, you ain't wearing no hoodie. You in the mix.

[Big Play Slay]

I'm in there, like, swimming. Well, that's. That's one thing about me.

[Richard Sherman]

I got.

[Big Play Slay]

I probably need to start being that, but I don't see myself as that. You know what I'm saying? But some people see me as that. I'm like, man, I'm really a. Just a. I'll be trying to blend in, be a nice guy and vibe out, but then, yeah, that ain't happening. That was my first time actually being a fan of the game because I never had. Because I never had that type of, you know, situation before.

[Richard Sherman]

So. So you. You just bought a ticket and came in or they gave you.

[Big Play Slay]

No, no, no, no. You know, I'm like, one thing about Philly now, that's always home. They love me there now. So I hit. You know, I got up with my boy AJ AJ Got a sweet ace, and I hit my boy Dom up. Don say, hey, you want to get AJ sweet or smitty sweet? I said, no matter. Anyone that's open. I just got a soldier when AJ's on, man chill with his family. No, we a great friend, and that's my great friend. We'd be chilling, not just supporting my dudes. Watch my boy Q work. You know, I love my little young boy, so I'm always gonna show love. You know, I'm a. That's what I do, man. So that ain't gonna never change about me. No matter where I'm at, if I got a chance to. To show love to, you know, a friend of mine in them kind of areas, I'm always gonna do that.

[Richard Sherman]

No question. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Now, you know, the NFL world needs fans, Philly fans, some of the toughest to deal with. So once you ain't with them no more, you're against them. But I'm sure they feeling a little different about big play because they see B2 situation right now and is leaving a lot to be desired. Young Quinon. I was there. I was there against the Giants. I was out there. I know they had Wonell. They had. They had Theo Johnson. They had. They didn't hide. They didn't have a ton out there. They didn't have a ton of guys out there that were guys that you would expect to have a lot of success. Wand Robinson has been having some success, and he had a good game. But once Quinion went down with that.

[Big Play Slay]

Harem string, yeah, it was tough out there, man.

[Richard Sherman]

Everybody, big play. All I saw was long days. All I saw was long days.

[Big Play Slay]

Look, man, it was tough out there. I was. It was hard for me to watch, man. And I love football. I said, dang, bro. Cause these my young guys, man. I want my young guys to go, you know, I'm like, damn, boy, it looking bad out there, man. Looking bad out there, man. So I had to do some checking in with my boys, man, to try to get. Hey, look, now, y', all, look.

[Richard Sherman]

You know I called you for keely when he first got there.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah, I know you do. Want to talk, make sure he goes. I say, oh, I got you, right? You know, ain't no big time with me. You know, I don't got no serm. And he's doing. He. He just got to be consistent, man. That's why I always been telling him, man, stay consistent. Stay consistent. That's. That's the only way you can stand this league.

[Richard Sherman]

You.

[Big Play Slay]

If you Want everybody big play real. You ain't gonna be there.

[Richard Sherman]

You don't be that long.

[Big Play Slay]

It don't matter if it's. If somebody catch a little hits or whatever, that's cool. You tap and you do it. But. But if you on them big play reels.

[Richard Sherman]

Look, I live by that. I'm staying on top. Look, y' all can throw hitches, I tackle Hitches and comebacks. If that's the game y' all want to play, when y' all fall, I'm catching it and we'll call it even.

[Big Play Slay]

Every time. Every time. You been negative, but everybody think they just want to guard everything. Look, it's a time and a place for that.

[Richard Sherman]

It's a time and a place. You want to survive a long time, right?

[Big Play Slay]

Third down. Third down.

[Richard Sherman]

We a man, we chasing everything.

[Big Play Slay]

First, second. Yeah, but you had been so short. Because I'm deep.

[Richard Sherman]

I'm deep. I'm deep and I. And I'm playing the percentages. Did y' all just get an explosive run? Are we within the 50? Are we on the logo? Because they might take a shot now, you know. See? Is it max protect? Look, okay, I see this backside post. All right, Double dig. Okay, okay, I see what y. Y' all setting up.

[Big Play Slay]

I'm trying to tell you. Look here. All I got on you got. You have one time with me. Oh, yeah. I just had a. Oh, explosive run. Hey, Slay, you playing off this play. I ain't even playing around.

[Richard Sherman]

No, no, but big play, big play. They. They talking bad about you now. Pff. Say it's a big play. 123 yards since week four.

[Big Play Slay]

This. No, no, no, no. This is what they said. Now, this was. Made it crazy. They said 123 yards. Week four. Not since week four. Week four. The whole week. That whole damn week. I gave 100. I said, Y' all got to be out y' all rabbit ass, man. I would have got bitch with 123 yards on Slay. I would have been going crazy. I would have bitched myself. First of all. You mean you wouldn't have to tell me to go to field? That's why I know who. Hey, whoever run this, pff. Look down. I know y' all be doing some mess that probably type in and say the nearest defender. Who is the nearest defender to this? Y' all gots to know the difference between man and zone. Please, y'. All. Cause a hundred. Y' all got people tagging me like, yeah, we knew Slay was wise. I'm like, what the Hell, y' all watching like nobody. I had two people go for 100 yards with me, and it was. And I'll tell you, it was DK and Devonte Adam. Now, some. Nobody else ain't going for no hun done on slay like that. No, sir.

[Richard Sherman]

Right?

[Big Play Slay]

No, sir. I don't give a damn is no. You can even take turns trying to get 100. Y' all want me equal to 100?

[Richard Sherman]

Y' all crazy.

[Big Play Slay]

I'll take myself out.

[Richard Sherman]

Right? Right?

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gonna do me like that? Oh, damn. Who spank slay first? Nobody doing that.

[Richard Sherman]

I saw Xavian on there, and you know, Xavian said, hey, that's enough. Xavier Ex said, hey, I'd rather go. Go spend time with my family if it's gonna be like this.

[Big Play Slay]

That's my dog, my dog, My dog said, hey. We like, hit him in the group chat. X, you good, bro? Man, I'm going to stay with my family, bro. I'm going home, bro. I ain't got time for this.

[Richard Sherman]

Hey. That boy said, hey. And I felt it.

[Big Play Slay]

I felt.

[Richard Sherman]

It's like. And you. Your body can't do what you know, you. Your mind is capable of. And you want to. You got to set a certain standard for yourself. You like, bro, I'm not about to keep going out there and embarrass because it hurts your soul.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah.

[Richard Sherman]

It's weird.

[Big Play Slay]

It do. Because he be like, ain't no way. I just gave that up. And I know I do to break that up. Nah, I gotta go.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah. And he's gonna do it at halftime like our guy Rip.

[Big Play Slay]

Rest in peace, my boy, man. But, yeah, at least he ain't do that at halftime.

[Richard Sherman]

Rest in peace. No, he. He let it. He let the game get over. And the team doing well, they five to one right now. So it wasn't like the team was just bad. But, yeah, he just.

[Big Play Slay]

He was just tired.

[Richard Sherman]

You could tell that.

[Big Play Slay]

It was more like, I got time to get no body ready. I ain't got time for this mess no more. I'm done, bro. This is like my boy to Darius Smith the same way he said he. Hey, they done went. Lost two back to back, man. The offense ain't kicking no good as I want to. AJ ain't getting his ball.

[Richard Sherman]

I can see it.

[Big Play Slay]

I, I, I see where this going. Let me go home. Hey, my boy said, let me go home. But I hope the boys do get it right over there, man. Cause they got to get that right. That got me hot over there. Them Boys should be doing dominating.

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[Richard Sherman]

Speaking of the Colts, did you see. Did you see the pregame. What happened to Charvarius?

[Big Play Slay]

No, what happened?

[Richard Sherman]

Oh, my God. Big play, Char. They warming up and somebody wasn't paying attention. Like this is pre warm up. No pads or nothing. You just out there catching the ball and like getting your legs warm.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah.

[Richard Sherman]

And he. He was breaking on an out and one of tight end or somebody. I. I forget who it was, but he ran into him and got concussed and missed the game. Miss the gang. And he was like real legit knocked out like. No, it hit him so hard. He was just like out. Like out cold in the protocol.

[Big Play Slay]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That ain't it, though, now. That ain't it. That ain't. I ain't never had that kind of. I thought you finna. I thought you finna tell me. Like, he ran an out route and then he didn't know the ball was coming anymore. Hit him in the face and. But somebody ran into him. Collision. Yeah, me and him.

[Richard Sherman]

Collision. Concussion.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, me and him. With a box too.

[Richard Sherman]

No question. We got a box. I got to see you later. Cause who ain't paying attention?

[Big Play Slay]

Who the fuck ain't paying attention?

[Richard Sherman]

Michael Irvin was going crazy on his podcast in a reaction to saying him and Deion couldn't play in this era. I know you saw that. Unk is crazy. First off.

[Big Play Slay]

Cuckoo, man. Hey, look, I know whatever you doing at this age, I need it, right? I need it because I see him at the Miami games and he mind me when he was on the youngest yard, when he was breaking it down. Who else? What if. I don't know what the hell he said, but he said something, I'm like, yeah, he's snapping. I might, I might, I need.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah, we got. We gotta have him on the show because he's saying. But somebody's saying, first off, first off. First off. Nobody that has never played in the NFL should be speaking about who can play and who can't play in this era. First off. Not that people can't speak on the game. And, hey, who's playing good who's not playing good, who has a good scheme, who has a bad scheme. I think people who haven't played sometimes know the game better than guys who have played. I can understand that. But when you're talking about who could have played in this era and who couldn't play in this hair, that's. It takes more than an outside observation to talk about that. You got to be in the game and understand the skill set it takes to play at a high level. The skill set that Irv and Dion had, it translates to what they doing now. It 100% translates. So saying they can't do it is insane. It's absolutely insane. There's nothing in this game that's happening right now that Irvine, Irv, Irv and Deion couldn't do. Michael Irving, an all timer, and Deion Sanders, one of the greatest athletes to play this game, could not do. Like, that's silly. That's silliness.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, I mean, I. I understand that completely. Like them boys, they're tripping. Like, there's no way. You think Michael Urban can't do this. Like, I done seen some guys that. That's in the league that. That's playing in this era right now. I'd be like, how do you get in this motherfucker?

[Richard Sherman]

Right?

[Big Play Slay]

That's right. So that's. That's the other question. So it's some folks that I. I done ran across and be like, all right, everybody. We call them. We call them camp bodies. There's a lot of people that be camp bodies that should be there. And I guarantee you, Michael Irving will not be a camp body in.

[Richard Sherman]

He would not be a camp body. It would be a Hall of Fame receiver. First off, they ain't letting us hit him like they used to. Like, you ain't some Sears getting killed.

[Big Play Slay]

His career.

[Richard Sherman]

He probably would have played 20 years. Yeah, they can't get hit. He used to play in a time where they could get hit. That's why I hate the records and stuff. And we always talked about the interception conversation. Dion had had his 53 and, you know, had an illustrious career. But I wish we played with some of the quarterbacks like that, that. That could get hit and be concussed and scared these defenders and falling off their back foot and not worried about the efficiency, numbers and all that. And they ain't worried about the PI and the hold and hands to the face and softening the game so they can add more points. They just letting it. They just letting them scrap out there.

[Big Play Slay]

I'm talking about Really a boxing match, right?

[Richard Sherman]

That's what it is.

[Big Play Slay]

MMA with pads on. With pads. That's all it is. Because I've seen Deion really be stilling off on folks in the middle of the game. Bam, bam, bam. Because not get kicked out and not get kicked out.

[Richard Sherman]

That's what I'm saying.

[Big Play Slay]

So it's MMA with pads on. Because you still up on somebody right now. They getting kicked out. Command soy Branch, he's getting kicked out. My boy ball A. First of all, let's get this out the way I thought my boy juju was flipping for a minute. There's no way you mush me that hard that you with the rolling, tumbling, and hopped up, put your hammer back down like I thought you would. I thought you were gonna try to sell the flop. But then I realized, like. I think realized, like, damn, that kind of hurt. It Let me. Let me go straighten this. Like, let me go straighten this. And so you would go run back over there. You get thrown on the ground and you know that. But hey, hey, first, I think Brante playing with you.

[Richard Sherman]

This is what I'm gonna say. The Kansas City Chiefs didn't get a penalty called in the game. That in itself is crazy. Now, I'm not one of the conspiracy theorists that's like, oh, man, they cheating for the Kansas City Chiefs. I ain't one of them, but I don't know too many NFL games where a team then played perfect. I don't think it has existed. No penalties. And then you see the clip of. And everybody's like, he hit Branch on the side. I'm gonna let you know something. When you hit me to the side, then I'm probably gonna land on my other side. That's what happens when you hit me on the side, I land on the other side. When you hit me in the back, I'm probably gonna land on the front. I'm gonna land on my face. So when Branch landed on his face, that mean he got hit in his back.

[Big Play Slay]

His back.

[Richard Sherman]

And people were like, well, he put his back on him. Well, then guess what, Guess what. There are plays out there. When somebody shows you their back, you can't hit them in it because then you gonna get the penalty. Just like, oh, people could show me they arm. If I grab it, they're gonna call holding on me. Like, just because they show me something don't mean that. Oh, oh, well, he.

[Big Play Slay]

I could grab his arm.

[Richard Sherman]

He showed it to me, bro. No, that's not what it means. He showed you his back. That means, oh, man, he got the better of you on this play. You can't hit him. If you hit him, it's gonna be a penalty. You hit him. It wasn't a penalty. So what Branch was saying, and I can understand this as a player, if this is happening all game and they getting away with BS all game, then y' all taking it out of my hands. I done had enough today. I'm laying hands on you. And he said he had enough. He said they all.

[Big Play Slay]

He said. Trying to bully me. He said he had it. Trying to bully me. BS on my hill. I just had enough of that.

[Richard Sherman]

Hey, look, what I'll say to you is juju. Juju. Look, next time they play juju going to have a lot of respect for him. You should go know that boy ain't playing.

[Big Play Slay]

I guarantee that. And I guarantee you he. When it's time to crack block again, he gonna make sure he don't hit him in his back.

[Richard Sherman]

Either he ain't gonna hit him on his back or this is the part of the game people don't understand. There's a lot of plays out there, receivers have that we keep them safe, that we don't take the shot we could take. We don't, we don't. We don't take the blinds out. We let em turn their head a little bit when we could really just demolish them. Yeah. And I don't think branching Detroit DB is going to give him that grace anymore. I think it's going to be a head hunting, we'll pay the fine kind of game.

[Big Play Slay]

Yes.

[Richard Sherman]

Is that fair? I don't know. Is it cheating? Is it anything? Is it. It's just. Hey, that's how they used to play the game. Sometimes you'll take the 15.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah. I'm going to tell you now, I warn every time I go on the field, any type of pulling tackle that dude, them toss crack. And look, I know it's a game. I know y' all gotta do y' all job. But y' all got one time to mud dog me. Like, if you blocking me and then you trying to dunk me and you 300 something pounds, you dunk me. Best believe you come around that corner again, you ain't gonna have no kneecap.

[Richard Sherman]

You ain't gonna have kneecap. I'm gonna take the. I'm gonna take the foul and you gonna be out the G. Yes, sir.

[Big Play Slay]

Every time. And if, and if you're not, I'm gonna do it the second time.

[Richard Sherman]

Run the play.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah. Yeah. My coach gonna have to say Slay. You can't play today, right? Yeah, yeah. Every time. So if you block me.

[Richard Sherman]

Fair enough.

[Big Play Slay]

And I'm trying to get off the edge and you do you cool. Do your thing. Would you come over there and you land on top of me. Mutton. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't got the last. Yeah. This is your last play today.

[Richard Sherman]

Okay. Okay. We gotta move on. Big play. But that we know what we talking about right now. The Tennessee Titan. We're going to finish it with the Tennessee Titans firing their head coach Brian callahan after a 1 and 5 start. He finishes with a 419 record as a head coach. And we're going to talk about Tuatanga Vailoa calling out his teammates and the Eagles losing to the Giants. So first the Titans firing ahead. Coach, that's crazy. Like don't, don't, don't fire Vrabel backs. Like you don't have a good team. You didn't draft well. Now your players aren't panning out. Don't fire a head coach that actually has guys playing hard for him, that's actually got a really solid defense, a solid plan philosophy, a good culture for somebody who hasn't been a head coach before. I don't think Callahan was even a play caller. And you put him in a position with a team that's not talented. He wins four games in two years. You don't have the patience to wait at least three years and it's just poorly run, poorly run franchise.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah, they, they, they, they not ain't doing it right over there man. At all, at all. So yeah, they gotta fix that man. But that would happen when you refine. You can't be just sitting here thinking like coaches are just replaceable. You know what I'm saying? First of all, Tennessee was a hard nosed team. They always had a hard nose defense. They were ran off their defense and they played groundhouse. I mean ground ball. Like De A was the running back. Like it was ground and pound. Like hard nose. We f y' all gonna have to beat us. But now y' all become this old, pretty, pretty offense. Y' all trying to build a whole different type of culture that became. I ain't gonna say they soft over there, cuz they ain't probably soft. They probably just ain't.

[Richard Sherman]

Well coach, and you. And you make dumb personnel decisions like you let Derek Henry walk out of the building. You trade, trade all Pro. Always open A.J. brown to the, to the Philadelphia Eagles thinking you've done something, thinking you're just going to Draft his replacement. That was dumb.

[Big Play Slay]

Dumb. So that's something they got to deal with. And just talking to Bourbon one time, he just. He. He ain't want that trade. He was blow by that trade. He was like, hey, Larry, you supposed to trade AJ Brown out of the building, but they. They concerned about a knee problem. That. That knee got him three All Pros, three Pro Bowls, a Super Bowl.

[Richard Sherman]

I'm gonna let you know something people that's concerned about. They shouldn't be concerned about a knee issue. Like, oh, we ain't gonna pay him because of the knee issue. That boy needing got a ring, and if you like it, then you should have put a ring on it. And he got another payday type shit. Any top five right now. Like, but y'. All. Y' all think y' all getting ahead of the curve. Like, man, we gonna get rid of him before he gets hurt. We know something. Like, y' all had him in y' all building and now y' all watching him be great and dominant. Well, he's pissed off right now, but be great and dominant for another team.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, man, he's so.

[Richard Sherman]

Damn.

[Big Play Slay]

They're great and dominant for. Damn straight. Because, boy, but yeah, he baller for a whole nother team now.

[Richard Sherman]

They should. Yeah. So. So is Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry out there in. In Baltimore. Well, he was living his best life last year. Living. Right. His best life. Yeah, yeah. But still. Still great. Great all time, great running back facts.

[Big Play Slay]

He. He's still gonna be a great.

[Richard Sherman]

And what about Tuatanga by Lo? Did you see that clip?

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah, he little. He a little wild for that. I don't. I don't know how he calling out his teammates in that kind of way. I don't know if he basically trying to say they need to have a better team bonding or something like that, but it's a way to go about that. Not necessarily. He making it sound like, oh, we lose it because what, we gonna hang together? But that we basically said.

[Richard Sherman]

No, he's saying. He's saying guys don't care enough. They not showing up to players only meetings. They're not showing up to treatment. They showing up late to players only meetings and not showing up at all. Like, I hear you, Tua, but you don't. Yeah, you don't get to be the one to say it. Like, when you out there playing bad, you probably need to just. What would they say? Shit up come back.

[Big Play Slay]

Huh? Well, they paying you all that money.

[Richard Sherman]

For a reason, right?

[Big Play Slay]

Not to be that.

[Richard Sherman]

Right. You threw three interceptions in the Game like the guy who threw three interceptions. You don't. You don't got room to say nothing to nobody. You just say, hey, we didn't play well enough. That's on me. I got to play better. You don't. You can say, oh, man, I was trying to get the team motivated. No, that's when dudes start having no respect for you.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah. Yeah. That's what look like what's going on over there right about now. Nobody ain't got no respect for their quarterback. And they gotta. They gotta find out where to get that together, man. Cause they. They got a lot of talent on that team to be badoonkey like that.

[Richard Sherman]

Badonki is a crazy word. My power. I'm looking at this game big play. And my power rank is it's going to be in the trash this week. I don't know what I'm going to do. Buffalo give you 217 right now by Atlanta.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah. Yes, I see that.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah, that's print.

[Big Play Slay]

Y' all just saw your rankings the other day.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah.

[Big Play Slay]

So you got to get ready to put that rank and get that ranking. Hey, look here. I'm gonna say this one thing. This won't get off my chest because this has gotta be your boy Bake MVP right now. Boy Baker.

[Richard Sherman]

Baker mayfound Boy Baker.

[Big Play Slay]

That man I'm talking about. No, no good win. No Mike Evans, you lost your other. Your rookie. That left in the second quarter and you still got them win. And that third and 14 play he made is like he, he, he. He got all the swag he want at the quarterback right now. I don't even lying right. Well, look, I don't know. He's been had all the swag, but man, like, golly bait, Boy B came he on a. He's a different type of animal right now.

[Richard Sherman]

Boy.

[Big Play Slay]

He. He.

[Richard Sherman]

I don't know how this game is going to end, but Atlanta's look like they're going to be up at the half 21 7, probably. It's 42 seconds left if that result end up staying and they win that game. Give me your power rankings. Top five in the National Football League.

[Big Play Slay]

Oh, I mean, of course you're going to say Pittsburgh won. No doubt. I got.

[Richard Sherman]

Dang.

[Big Play Slay]

That's.

[Richard Sherman]

It's.

[Big Play Slay]

It's gonna be crazy right now.

[Richard Sherman]

It's gonna be crazy. I just want you to think about that.

[Big Play Slay]

San Fran just lost.

[Richard Sherman]

Philly's gone. Buffalo's gone. Like Detroit lost.

[Big Play Slay]

Detroit gone. Detroit lost. Like.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah.

[Big Play Slay]

So it's like it might be a Team in there really might be three and two at the top five. Right.

[Richard Sherman]

By now you have no mind while you going through your process.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah, yeah, it'll be in yours. Cause I'll be paying today. I don't worry about mine.

[Richard Sherman]

Yeah, right, right, right. You locked in. I see I got to see the big picture.

[Big Play Slay]

You just, you see the big picture. I don't see the big picture. I wouldn't have thinking like, damn, it really ain't nobody.

[Richard Sherman]

So the one loss teams right now, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Tampa, Indianapolis. Yeah, yeah, those are the one loss teams. That's it. And Buffalo. But Buffalo's losing right now.

[Big Play Slay]

Yeah.

[Richard Sherman]

So if Buffalo loses, I'm not sure Philly's going to be in my top five. I'm being honest right now, the way they playing, they may be right now, they can't be.

[Big Play Slay]

That's about losing to the Giants. Yeah, not to the Giants.

[Richard Sherman]

Right. They lost to the Giants and the Broncos. Yeah, they'll bounce back though.

[Big Play Slay]

They'll bounce back. They'll bounce back.

[Richard Sherman]

Now Buffalo, if they lose to the Patriots and then the Falcons back to back. Like you're out the power rankings. But one would have to be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for me because they just. Baker's playing like an MVP candidate and he's even more so now. I'd probably put y' all at three just cause y' all have had y' all bye week. So y' all four on one. They all just played one more game. So I'm put y' all at three. But I'm gonna put the Indianapolis Colts at two. Low key. They could be undefeated if Adani. If Adonai Mitchell. Don't drop the ball. Drop the ball.

[Big Play Slay]

It'd be 5, 0. Yeah, they'd be 5 and 0.

[Richard Sherman]

It's 6 and O.

[Big Play Slay]

Yes. There would be 6 and 0 for sure. Hell yes.

[Richard Sherman]

Right, right. And Jonathan Taylor looking like an MVP candidate. Really looking like his old self. Then after that, after those two, it gets kind of murky. I think Seattle, what they've been doing, it's going to be a two loss team after that. Yeah, but gotta be the four and five is what's going to be tricky at the end because I'm really not sure who it could be. I mean, it used to be Green Bay, but Green Bay struggled minorly in some of these games and looked different. The commanders could be in it. But I'm gonna have to really think about four and five. Yeah.

[Big Play Slay]

You gonna have a thought today, man. It'll be a thought. You know, I'm gonna tune in and see who you pick, though, so it'll be a thought. Always got us in that top three, though. That's all you got to be, Right.

[Richard Sherman]

Right, right, right, right. Gotta have y'. All. Y' all only got one lost. I appreciate you, Big Play. I appreciate you always joining us, and I appreciate all you guys joining us, as you always have all the support in the world. Thank you so much. You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us, and we sure do appreciate it. I'll see you next time, big boy.

[Big Play Slay]

Yes, sir, man, have a blessing.

[Richard Sherman]

You, too.

[Big Play Slay]

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