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Richard Sherman
Bro, did you see the clip I was just gonna get on that Jordan run?
Big Play Slay
What it sound like? It's not like boys in the hood, Ricky.
Richard Sherman
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And y' all know what time it is? It's Another day with big play Slay. What up, brother?
Big Play Slay
What's good, my guy? E. What's good? How everything going, man?
Richard Sherman
It's good, it's good. If I. If I was doing any better, I'd be you.
Big Play Slay
Hey, you set the standard, man. I'm just trying to. Trying to do my part, man. Trying to do my part.
Richard Sherman
Speaking of doing your part, you got, you got your hands on a football this week. You recovered a fumble. Your defense had five turnovers, five sacks, two goal line stands. Yeah, it seems like y', all. Y' all figured it out.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, man. Hey, we putting it all together, man. Of course we still got a little bit left to like, you know, fix and all that kind of great stuff, but, you know, we had a great talk as a defense, you know, we made the plays we want to make. But as a defense, man, just me just being in the league for so long, I've been telling guys, man, we can't just be a splash defense. Right now. We are more of a splash defense study of a complete defense. Like we waiting for a guy to make a splash play instead of like dominating the whole game. Not having long drives. We had too many long drives. So we just got to get that nipped in the bud, man. Too many fourth and shorts that they could go for it on fourth down. You know, we know we got off the. Got some third downs and we stopped them on third down. But it's right now in the lead. Definitely where they've been going on 4th and twos. No matter how bad W is, they still in that possession. They trying to go for it. So we got to get that in the bud.
Richard Sherman
No question. You was a little banged up in the first half. What happened, man?
Big Play Slay
So like I'm going to get my tackle, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to go hit the dude on the screenplay, the rook. First time playing today, we just had our rook, first lead time, our first round rook. Shout out to my dog. He got his first sack, two in his first appearance. But as he tackling, you know what I'm saying, he leg kicks me right in the dog on right in the sh. Like he. Like he a NBA boxer, you know what I'm saying? Keep me right into the leg. I'm talking about leg with no and I'm talking about it's a 400 pound leg feel like I said, hey bro, you know what I'm saying? That's my little bro. And what's crazy is about the story, right? He from Detroit and he you know, he showed me the picture of me and him taking as a kid. I was like, dang, bro, that's how you feel about me. I came to your school, done supported you, done said what's up? And you done kicked me now leg. But no, man, it was good for him, man. But I was good, man, you know, just a little stingy. But I was straight, man, I was straight. No big deal.
Richard Sherman
Well, there was some history made by Aaron Rodgers. He only threw for 139, but he got two tugs and that moved him past his teammate Brett Favre on the NFL all time list. Was, was that a conversation in the locker room? I mean, that kind of history don't happen every day.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, that don't happen. And what's crazy is that I wish I knew that. Like I ain't know that. Nobody ain't know nobody. Maybe the offense did, but the defense, you know, we ain't know nothing about it. So I Dane show gave him his flower before anything, but he already deserved him because you know he one of the best that ever do it. So when I get to the locker room, I mean to the work come tomorrow, I'm like, hey man, you could have told me that, man. I could get a good shout out or something. He made you to the offense though. But I'm gonna show giving his cuz congrats, man. Cause that's a big achievement, right?
Richard Sherman
That's a huge achievement. Well, y' all about to. Y' all about to do something that ain't ain't been done very often. Y' all about to go to Ireland. Big play, it don't seem like you. Wait, wait, wait. Big play, it don't seem like you too happy about that. I thought you was trying to. I thought you was coming out there to do your Irish. You know what I mean? The Irish dance, man.
Big Play Slay
Look one, I've been up in the league 13 years. I have not been excited about going to no out of country game. I hate going out the country for work because I really want to enjoy the view of where I'm going at because when I get there I ain't going to be able to go sightsee nothing. I got to be mind focused and ready to go. So I know exciting for the fans. I am exciting for the Ireland fans to see. You know how American football works, that's for sure. I'm happy about that. But I want to go to Ireland to like visit, like to see. Not on no business trip. I want to enjoy my trip. But now I can't really enjoy because I'm really locked in. And then they put me on a week against the Minnesota Vikings with one of the best receivers coming in the building. I worry about what's going on at Iron no more.
Richard Sherman
But the thing about big play is, the thing I know and I've heard about big play slay is the straps they travel, the straps they can get.
Big Play Slay
They go on the road, they go everywhere. Now. One thing about them now, they come on, man. We put them everywhere now. It's always going to be a challenge, man. Always, always looking forward to always.
Richard Sherman
You done been to Brazil?
Big Play Slay
Yep.
Richard Sherman
Now you going to Ireland. How do you prepare for these games? Because I never had to go to anywhere crazy. Like I went to Toronto. That was the only one I had to ever go international. Thank goodness, man.
Big Play Slay
I went to London twice and went to Brazil last year. And then I'm going to Ireland. So it's like, man, the long flights first of all be bad, then always the sleep be off. Like I think what we were behind the game really at 9:30 here. And you know, so that's already bad. So my sleeping schedule will be off. They already trying to give us the sleep schedule. How to sleep. Make sure you sleep all through the plane. Don't go to sleep when you first get there. Like I'm going to be tired already from this plane ride. I'm going to get my sleep. So I just. It's just too much, you know what I'm saying? But I am excited for the fact that like I said that we could, you know, bring America football across the globe so everybody get the witness of it. So that's the only exciting part about it. But I'm not always a big fan of that. You know, I got. I ain't a big fan of that all the time.
Richard Sherman
They eight hours ahead of the west coast, five hours ahead of the east coast. Has Tomlin done anything to the schedule to change it to. To like try to semi prepare y'? All?
Big Play Slay
Yeah, of course. You know, Mike, Mike. One thing about Mike T, man, he do a great job making sure we are very much ready and situated in all kind of aspects, even on the field and off the. So right now, shoot usually work start by 8 o'.
Richard Sherman
Clock.
Big Play Slay
He said shoot first meeting at 7, you know, just to get us early up early. And I'm like, man, I'm already up at 6:30 to get there for my DB meet. I meet with my coach then, you know what I'm saying? We have other meetings. We go on PR. So now my routine gotta be like, 5:30. Cause now I gotta get up there, be there to eat at 6, eat my breakfast in peace so I don't have to rush. Now I gotta meet with my coach at 6:30, then Mike T. Come on at 7. Like, yeah, man. So it's gonna be a little. It's gonna be a tough week, man, with some sleep, so I might be in the bed in about two more hours.
Richard Sherman
How long y' all staying?
Big Play Slay
We staying from Thursday to Sunday. We're leaving Thursday, so it's not bad. So we probably get there, I think, Friday morning. And, you know, I don't know how that practice schedule, bro, he gonna keep us updated with that. How he gonna do it if we gonna have a walkthrough or if we go out there and try to do something. So we gonna figure that out on the move.
Richard Sherman
Well, speaking of the Minnesota Vikings, y' all got Justin Jefferson. We talked about that, but it's Carson Wentz. You know, you thought you were preparing coming into the season, you would have thought you were preparing for J.J. mcCarthy, I'm sure. You know, we ain't gonna say we would prefer J.J. mcCarthy, but you know what I mean? I wouldn't mind J.J. mcCarthy. Keep learning, rook. Yeah, but you're playing Carson Wentz, who's had, you know, up and down season, but a solid veteran in this Kevin OConnell scheme. They present a lot of issues. You know, this outside zone, the running back is a. Is he run behind his shoulders? Like, I'll tell you, he run behind his shoulder pads.
Big Play Slay
Yeah.
Richard Sherman
What have y' all done? Because you see this scheme so much more in the NFL now. You see it with a version of it with Cincinnati, the Rams, San Francisco, Miami runs a version of it. Like, everybody runs runs. Seattle runs a version of it. Um, so how does that change your preparation coming into this week? Cause you played Seattle and. And Kevin o'. Connell. It's a version of what he's right.
Big Play Slay
Um, I mean, I played against this. Like, I said, we played against this a lot. And I think really, just with the quarterback situation, I think a lot of quarterbacks can, like, not gonna say all our system players, but quarterbacks, I think can. That's got a great IQ that can, you know, throw on timing and be accurate on time. I think they could fit very well in his system. And Carson is one of them guys. Of course, he got the ability to stead in the plays with his legs. So I think it's a real good, you know, good challenge for us. Honestly, man. Cause he Carson being with him in Philly, you know, he had the keys to the offense a lot more than now. So I think right now he more of a, you know, culture player, like a coach player. So now he more of a. Like, hey, what you need me to do to make sure I win this game and put you in the best position? So I think he gonna do, you know, do his thing. I think he not gonna overdo it, and, you know, he's not going to be like, oh, I got to, you know, do all I got to do. But I think he's going to make some good throws probably, and be smart about it, take care of the ball and, you know, try to make sure, you know, you don't turn the ball over.
Richard Sherman
Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think that's going to be a great game, a great challenge for that defense. Try to get some sights in. Try to get a day of sights in, get out. The hotel slayer.
Big Play Slay
They see something, man, look, hey, look. I ain't trying to sightsee. Nothing to rat about that I don't worry about. Hey, can I get home to this dub, Try to get this win and, you know. Cause, you know, got that bye week coming up, so I need that. I need to go into the bye week feeling good, man. I want to go in there with the dub and, you know, start off right and get the body ready. So that's the main thing, man. I know we going down there to joy, but I'm trying to come back with a win, and that's the main thing. So we're gonna keep the main thing, the main thing. So I catch that sightseeing another time. I'm blessed and fortunate enough. I can come back.
Richard Sherman
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Richard Sherman
What was that?
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Richard Sherman
Oh, my.
Daniel Jeremiah
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
Richard Sherman
Have you sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.
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Richard Sherman
Yeah.
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Big Play Slay
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Richard Sherman
The NFL News the Giants, you see what they done, son? They named Jackson Dart starting quarterback this week going forward, replacing Russell Wilson after a bit of a struggle in the last game. I'm not sure what he did in that red zone drive. That, that, that, that sequence of plays was a head scratcher. I was like, it's fourth and you're throwing it, you're throwing it out there. I, I thought they was going to give him intentional grounding, but I was like, it's fourth down.
Big Play Slay
So I'm about to say that going to be the second time they did it because they just did it right before the drive. Like I'm about to say, God dam damn, Russ, what you doing now?
Richard Sherman
Just give your boy shot. Right? But, but their defense was playing really well against the Kansas City Chiefs. They were giving them a chance. So I thought you could feel the fans, the fans were booing the team. After a while you got to show them something different. And again, I said this earlier in the year, but Daybo, I mean, you, you coaching for your job right now. You, you sitting too long. You won't ever get the same play. Right. Right. You'll watch somebody else coach you. So he has to make a move sooner or later. And they decided to do it. This is A tough matchup. The Chargers are a good team, they're playing really good football but I know they feel their defense can get some stops and have some success and they feel like this, the kid can, can be prepared and go in there and if he finds a way to get a win for the Giants against the Chargers who have been playing great football, that'd be big time.
Big Play Slay
That would be big for him. Definitely, man. Definitely. With the, the talk around the league, I saying he wasn't that kind of type of caliber quarterback coming in as a rookie. They are but man, for him to be able to get his start against them and win, that's big because them boys are on a hot street. Right. Talking about Justin Herbert playing like everybody said that he wasn't like a top five but of course that you know got to translate into the, you know, the playoff area because that's all it was really matter at the end of the day. But he's playing lights out. They defense playing outside like harbor got them boys going over there though. I ain't lying. I watched them on tape, they are flying around. So that could be a good challeng for his offense and then for him to be this first start in the NFL it gonna say a lot, man. It go say a lot. And this is a defense that that's going and I know his defense doing very well as well so it'll be tough. And it was just kind of, you know, I know it's a business thing but boy, it's kind of crazy. My boy went from throwing for 500 the week before four days later you have ain't no washing hands with you.
Richard Sherman
You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right.
Big Play Slay
Hey, that's why I be telling people about the business, man. It's what you do for me now.
Richard Sherman
What you do for me now. That's right. Asleep. You can't be a flash in a pants, you know what I mean? You get your 15 minutes of fame, don't expect the jacket out of it. They will get rid of you and pee on to the next. Nowadays you're a viral video for a few days and then they own to the next person. So click. But in other news, the Texans to start the season 03 struggling both sides of the football. Obviously lowest scoring offense in the National Football League are amongst the lowest scoring offenses. But defenses have been having some coverage busts and they made a decision today to release your guy CJ Gardner Johnson from the team. And you hear Dem Ryan say he's not communicating, he's now taking accountability for some of the coverage busts that, that he had in the back end. You know, some of these guys have been playing together, Lassiter and Petrie and obviously Stingley, I think he's a little banged up right now because he wasn't out there a lot of that game. But yeah, it's, it's, it's interesting. I don't remember many times a veteran getting cut three games into the season. What you think going on, big play.
Big Play Slay
Man, it gotta be a lot going on because from my knowledge is that. Shoot, when he got traded, you know, they, he basically was on like a kind of like one year deal basically with the Eagles kind of like. But it looked like his three. However it looks on the paper. But then we got to over there in Texas, they, they gave him some guaranteed money to make sure they, they kind of like invested in him. Like, hey, right, we're gonna make sure you're good over here. So that was a good sign for that. You know, I always want everybody to get their bread, but the fact that they let him go in three weeks, that, that just don't sit right there now. That's tough. That gotta be, that gotta be a lot going on, man. And I know him as a person, man, I know he's a, a true competitor. A guy that's, you know, very, you know, how to say it. Like, he's, he's emotionally driven. You know, he's, he got, he's taking a lot to the. And the fact that, you know, he coming from a team that now was 3, 0, he's 0 and 3. So, you know, I'm thinking they try to bring winning coach over there and they probably just, you know, I don't know. But that's wild. Very wild. But hey, hey, he gotta find a way. He gotta find a way. Wish nothing but the best for him, you know, And I know how this business is. This business is cutthroat. Like I said, we just said, what have you done for me now? And you know, right. And I'm guessing they feel like he ain't doing nothing for him.
Richard Sherman
Yeah, he ain't doing enough. Or he's being a distraction or he's being a detriment. We'll see if it gets picked up. Another weird thing about this week in the National Football League, a lot of blocked field goals, including your former team for the game. They blocked the field goal to win the game. And then your boy, Jordan Davis, they said he clocked 18.5 or something, miles per hour on the GPS. Slave, what was you thinking when you seen Jordan Davis?
Big Play Slay
Well, one thing I was trying to tell folks, like, I'm so glad that he was able to show how fast he is, because a lot of these big guys in this league don't think Jordan was that fast at the combine. You know, I got Cam Hayward over here. That's my dog. He like, slay, man, is. Is Jordan that fast? Like, I'm like, bro, if you ask for one sprint out of him. And I was in his worst shape back then. He in his best shape now, but I was in his worst shape. I say, I guarantee you he could beat almost every D tackle in the league with one sprint. Like, you got a 40 he's. He's getting. And I wasn't surprised he made it 18. I wasn't. I just. I was glad that the world got. Finally got to see my dog, really actually get out of there and get going.
Richard Sherman
So, yeah, that's gonna live on. That's gonna live forever.
Big Play Slay
I knew he was gonna run the fastest he could, too. Cause this is his chance. He don't care how tired he was. He probably done did a 10 play drive. Doesn't even matter. I'm finna show y' all how fast I really am. And he got active. Cause he could have just got the ball and just laid down and won the game. He said, no Tub could have risked the fumble. Could have risked everything.
Richard Sherman
Hey, he didn't care. He glory.
Big Play Slay
I'm about to show y' all right now. And he got out of there, man. So there's been a lot of block kids, man. Definitely. And I'm just watching one on one, too, man. And do with the jacks, too. The almost does to almost win the game. But, you know, bigger things. He. He playing crazy, too, to do that. But, man, it's. It's been Cleveland I forgot about. Even Cleveland did the same thing to do it. So it's been crazy, man. It's been a crazy special team, man. That's why I got win in all three phases. And that's why three phases are very important in this game.
Richard Sherman
No question about it. No question about it. And last night's game was an incredible game. I thought Detroit. I was not expecting Lamar don't lose to the NFC much, so it's hard for us to ever really bet against him. He was 242 coming into the game, and now he's 24. 3. And Detroit just. I don't know if I've ever seen anybody contain him like that. Like, they wouldn't Let letting him move around. They were stripping the ball from him. They sacked him seven times. I mean, he threw for 288, but in three tugs. So it's almost like, hey, still played.
Big Play Slay
A great game, but boy, hey, what the game wall game come to, man, Situational moments. Every big time third down, they made a play. They made sure they got off the field. That's where I think they won at. They won in all big time situations. Moments. And Baltimore didn't, you know, a big fourth down start. They ain't stopped, you know. You know, Baltimore went for it on 4th and 1 when they could have kicked the field goal and went up by that and they stopped them there. So you know what I'm saying? So they won all the situational game. It was a very balanced game. But what separated them was situational ball.
Richard Sherman
Yeah, I think that goal line stance was one of the biggest things. When they stopped Derrick Henry twice in a row, I think it was like, hey, these boys are not playing today.
Big Play Slay
They ain't scared of him.
Richard Sherman
They not scared of him. And they not. They not. They don't care if it's one. Usually you have the ones dudes are like, yeah, this Derrick Henry, he gonna get in like, let's just get ready. Them dudes wasn't thinking none of that. And then on the other side, on those fourth downs, I try to explain to people how hard it is to defend those insert plays where the receiver keeps motioning down. He insert, they run the ball. You gotta see if he inserts. And then you gotta get there and try to make the tackle on the running back. And then the one play where he inserts and they fake that handoff and you look up and you like, God damn, I noticed. I know he behind me. Damn.
Big Play Slay
Hey, I be hating. That's the worst plays. I hate. Because it's so hard to see and adjust. Because now the fact that quarterbacks are actually carrying out the fakes so long and then they stay on a block for so long. And as a corner, the first thing we are taught is to show color to that running back to make him change direction. I got to get him before he get going. And by that time you don't realize you're trying to set this edge, somebody running by you and no question about it, Every time, man, every time.
Richard Sherman
And all you could do is chase him to the end zone.
Big Play Slay
And all you gotta do is chase and just pray that he just got some butterfingers. Cause, boy, look, I tell you, I done got hit one that time. One time with Thielen when he wouldn't like be Thielen, who he supposed to be, man, that boy came in and inserted with AP. AP done ran for already 100 on us. I'm finna's like AP finna get me. Ran right by me. I ain't even see him run. I just ran straight to A.P. like, oh.
Richard Sherman
@ that point you might as well tackle him. All right, I'm just gonna tackle ap. Hold on.
Big Play Slay
I thought you had a ball one boy, right?
Richard Sherman
Hey, and that now we didn't seen this clip where Prawn saying he told his son not to go to Baltimore, that he said he would end up sitting behind Lamar for 10 years and he felt like it'd be a better opportunity elsewhere to get a chance to play and all that. What do you, what do you feel about that? Cause I get, I'll tell you what.
Big Play Slay
I think I mean it like depending on where I'm at in life, like, so if I wasn't, if I wasn't the first round draft pick guy, I would prefer myself to go, you know, somewhere I want to be able to compete and start at, you know. But if I'm a guy that's laying around like, so say if I was a 5th round pick and I have a chance to pick who I could go play behind and say at the corner position, if I had a chance to go play behind Shern, you or Joe Hayden or Pat P. And all this time in my era, I'm gonna take advantage of it because of the fact that, hey, I know at one point in time my day go come, you know what I'm saying? I know it's different at the quarterback position because they pay, some of em pay 20 and 30 years wherever they feel like playing. But I know for me, just saying the player I am, I would love to have the ability to learn from a guy that's one of the best that probably gonna ever go in the history books or playing his game. And you know, I done seen it happen before guys that was behind some talented guys. He was just behind Joe Flacco, a Super bowl champion. They brought them a Super bowl there and then they're like, hey, it's your turn. You know what I'm saying? So hey, I'm gonna guy that's like, hey, I like learning, you know, I like to learn shoot. So if somebody doing something that I want to be, I'm trying to go under that wing. So. But I understand where they coming from too. I know I probably want to sign up play. So I understand.
Richard Sherman
No, I feel, I feel, I feel what he's saying when he's saying he ain't never learned nothing. He ain't never sat on the bench and been like, man, I sure did learn a lot today. I feel it. But just the quarterback spot is so different. Different quarter linebacker, you could say I play in special teams, I can scrap my way to like suiting up on gameplay and like getting out there getting my feet wet. Maybe if somebody gets banged up, I get, you know what I mean? Get a chance to get out there on defense and do my thing. Totally understandable. But at quarterback, if you're not a first round pick, second round pick, you, you're probably not playing or you're going to have to wait anyway.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, wait anyway. Yeah.
Richard Sherman
And you can increase your value behind a guy. Like if you sitting there saying, hey, Lamar's going to be here a while and doing all this, I can learn championship habits, I can learn winning habits, how to prepare for these games, how MVP of the National Football League prepares every week, how he reads the defense. That's stuff you can't just learn anywhere. Yeah, that's stuff that, hey, if you want to just sit behind somebody and just be like, oh, man, even Joe Flacco, he's probably learning some great stuff from Joe Flacco. But if you go to a situation like the Saints or just Spencer Rattler and young guys, no offense to Spencer Rattler, but he has never been to there. He's never been to the top of the top of the mountaintop. So he don't know that much more than you do. He started a few NFL games he's had. I'm not sure he's even had a start that he's won yet, but sure, you might have an opportunity to play, but your development won't be as great as it would be behind somebody like that. Because the things that you would learn, the habits that you would learn, the preparation, how to carry yourself, how to, how to watch film, how to drill. You know what I mean? You'll go somewhere else. And that's why people draft and trade and get guys from super bowl teams because they want the, they want the formula, they want to know what's going on. When, when Cooper cup came to Seattle, Mike McDonald was like, hey, I'm chasing edges. I want to know what you know. Like, I want to know how y' all traveled, I want to know how y' all ate. Did y' all have a nutritionist? I want to know y' all won A Super bowl. Like, what went into it, and there are details. And so when you have quarterbacks that have won MVPs or won Super Bowls, there's a way they've done it. And so if you not picked in the upper echelon and I'm a fifth round pick, I'm cool sitting behind Lamar. I'm cool.
Big Play Slay
That's where I'm at, too. But like I said, I understand Deion because he want to see his son play. I'm with it too, you know what I'm saying? But me, just me, I like to learn and I like to witness greatness. You know what I'm saying? That's like me saying I got a chance to like, hey, they slay. Like, when I, even when I was a rookie, I had a good chance to watch Champ Bailey work out for the Detroit Lions in 2013. But thankfully, like I said, I had ended up with Sheen. I watched that workout because I admired Champ for so long. You know, I was one of his biggest fans that he never just knew about. And I got a chance to watch him do a whole workout and talking about me, I was like, I know I was a. I was a 36 pick, so they expected me to play. I'm over. Like, I cannot wait to watch this dude do some work, you know what I'm saying? Like, because I've been. It's a big. My biggest dude, man. So, yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. With that part of just saying. I love to be behind somebody and just learn.
Richard Sherman
We gotta get you a Champ jersey.
Daniel Jeremiah
Yeah.
Big Play Slay
Oh, yeah. I gotta get a Champ, man. I got to give me a chance. That's my. You know, that's my dude. That's my dude.
Richard Sherman
I'm a texting. I'm a text.
Big Play Slay
That's my dude. We be following. We follow each other all the day. I'll be trying to keep it cool. Try to keep it playing, because I'm playing. I'm for sure. Inbox them. Hey, man, I need that.
Richard Sherman
Yeah, you gotta. You gotta get that. You gotta. You gotta get that channel. Which one you gonna get?
Big Play Slay
I don't care.
Richard Sherman
Denver Champ.
Big Play Slay
Huh?
Richard Sherman
You're gonna get Denver Champ. You gonna get. I mean, you get through. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and inter. Entertaining and twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get.
Daniel Jeremiah
We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Richard Sherman
What was that?
Daniel Jeremiah
Looks like something that should not be sold.
Richard Sherman
Oh, my.
Daniel Jeremiah
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
Richard Sherman
Have you sold that? Yes.
Daniel Jeremiah
Might want to go back to the.
Richard Sherman
Drawing board at the Colts stadium.
Big Play Slay
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
Might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
Richard Sherman
Yeah.
Daniel Jeremiah
I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it.
Richard Sherman
We hope you all will join us throughout the year.
Big Play Slay
And let's go.
Daniel Jeremiah
I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73.
Richard Sherman
He is spry.
Daniel Jeremiah
I wouldn't fight him.
Richard Sherman
I would listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Daniel Jeremiah
What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move the Sticks. We take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College football podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween. Uh huh. But fear not, the solid verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss, an impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport. Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football, Tyler, we live it. Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael F. Florio and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies.
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Big Play Slay
Get transferred too risk too. But whatever. He blessed me. What I'm going to be thankful for, you know what I'm saying? Because he just represented South Georgia so highly and I need that.
Richard Sherman
I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that. We gonna make that happen. Big play. We go show. Make that happen. Another thing that was said by a Hall of Famer, Joe Thomas said Miles Garrett is the most impactful non QB in the history of football.
Big Play Slay
It's not.
Richard Sherman
It's Aaron Donald. Let's not go crazy.
Big Play Slay
I was saying he can say we could go Aaron. Him and Aaron Donald for sure. Like that's not even a question. I'm like I'm about to say, look now you almost forgot that boy that was in. And he was in. First of all, he was in St. Louis and he was in LA. We talking about the Rams boy. 99 was. Is very special and he's a freak of naysha. Like so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. He might. He's up there. He might.
Richard Sherman
And then with accolades. You could put J.J. watt in there. Yeah, like let's not go crazy. Dion would be. Would be in there. Let's not go Charles Woodson.
Big Play Slay
Charles Woodson. Yeah. Let's not be too crazy now. But I understand where he coming from because understand where you athletic gifted. He is. He is a gifted player, but he's for sure one of the generational talent.
Richard Sherman
But you also gotta. You gotta like what. What elevated Aaron Donald's greatness even on top of the three defensive players of the year, the eight All Pros, the 10 Pro Bowls. What elevated him even more is when they were in the super bowl for the game he ended. Aaron Donald won and ended the game. Look, they lose that super bowl if Aaron Donald stays blocked, they lose that Super Bowl. Jalen looked like he stumbled and slipped. Chase was wide open. Burrow was looking at him.
Big Play Slay
Yeah.
Richard Sherman
Like they lose that super bowl. If it's not for Aaron Donald. He was the reason. So it's tough because you got to see. You want to see Miles Garrett in those playoff moments, but he's just stuck in Cleveland. So it's hard for me to say, oh, man, this is the greatest. Because when it's unfair, but you got to play in big moments. You can't just be a regular season monster. You can't. You can't. The hardest games are in the playoffs. Like, the most impactful. That's when the lights is brightest. And if you're saying I never had to play under the brightest lights, it's unfair. But unfortunately, you can't be. He can't be.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, yeah. Cleveland tough for him, man. Cause he tough.
Richard Sherman
I wish he would go somewhere else.
Big Play Slay
I wish he would, too, there, because, well, he in that category. But you made a lot of sense about the fact that he just. But, man, he is a monster, though. I ain't gonna lie to you, boy. I ain't never seen somebody. I had a joint practice with that, man. I ain't never seen nobody shut the whole practice down.
Richard Sherman
I. I ain't never seen nobody move like the way he was winning, bro. Did you see the clip? I was just gonna get on that Jordan run.
Big Play Slay
What it sound like? It sound like boys in the hood, Ricky.
Richard Sherman
I ain't never seen nothing like that in my life. I never heard. I played football for 11 years. I ain't never heard nobody scream at the quarterback.
Big Play Slay
That's crazy. That's crazy, man. Hey, that's the name. That's. That's. Tell you something. Better get your ass.
Richard Sherman
You better go. You better go.
Big Play Slay
I swear. You better get on down. At least he warned him, though. He could have not said nothing.
Richard Sherman
Right, right. Could have got him killed. Yeah, he tried to get him killed. I know. I know. They watched that film, and he probably was like, hey, Jordan, you heard me, right? You heard me.
Big Play Slay
Hey, I told you to run, too.
Richard Sherman
You better hurt me. I'm telling you, you better hurt me. I screamed now. Yeah, I could have probably just tried to block him, but you see, you're a monster. I screamed.
Big Play Slay
Yeah.
Richard Sherman
Listen, keep your ears open.
Big Play Slay
So when I saw that clip, boy.
Richard Sherman
Oh, man. But I appreciate your big play. I ain't gonna take no more of your time. I know it's your off day. As always, I appreciate you joining me.
Big Play Slay
I appreciate you, man. Have a good one.
Richard Sherman
You too. You too, brother. I'll see you next week. Let me know how Ireland is.
Big Play Slay
I'm gonna let you know, man.
Daniel Jeremiah
Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the six, we take you inside the game. From breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else. It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sundays. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or where you get your podcasts. I'm Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael F. Florio and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies.
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Big Play Slay
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Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Date: September 26, 2025
Episode Focus:
Richard Sherman and “Big Play” Darius Slay break down the Steelers’ defensive dominance, dig into NFL news and locker room stories, discuss the team’s upcoming trip to Ireland, analyze defensive play-calling trends, and debate Myles Garrett’s greatness among all-time non-quarterbacks.
This engaging episode delivers the trademark chemistry and candid banter between Sherman and Slay, offering listeners sharp, first-hand insight into the NFL’s biggest storylines. The show highlights Pittsburgh’s defensive clinic, addresses league shakeups (including Giants and Texans quarterback changes and controversial cuts), explores the logistics and culture shock of NFL international games, and ends with a passionate debate on Myles Garrett versus all-time greats like Aaron Donald.
Slay’s Play:
Handling 4th Downs:
Slay’s On-Field Injury:
Slay’s Reluctance:
Preparation & Sleep Struggles:
Trying to Integrate Sights and Focus:
Deion Sanders’ Take: Should Young QBs Sit?
Slay’s Admiration for Legends:
The episode is energetic, conversational, and candid—blending locker room storytelling with incisive football analysis and unfiltered NFL realities. Slay and Sherman’s rapport gives the episode an authentic, lighthearted but honest tone, often punctuated by laughter, insider anecdotes, and a mutual reverence for football greatness.
This week’s Richard Sherman Podcast, with guest Darius Slay, is a can’t-miss for fans who want smart, real-time perspectives on defense, culture, and locker-room dynamics as well as thoughtful debates about NFL greatness—sprinkled liberally with jokes and genuine player respect.