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What was that? Oh my.
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Sean McVay
There was a special teams blunder that happened in the game and I just can't imagine that conversation and what it was like. Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And you know what time it is. It's that time that I got my guy, big play slave to talk about what's happened this week and hear his opinion on everything. That was a tough one.
Big Play Slay
Big play, man. That was a Very, very tough one, man. Very tough one, man. You know, we had to. That's when you really got to look yourself in the mirror and be like, yeah, yeah, that's a tough one.
Sean McVay
That one's tough. It's unfortunate because anytime your defense has two turnovers, you feel really good about it. Obviously you got. Jalen Ramsey had a turnover, second drive at a football game, you know, after he had gave up what appeared to be a touchdown. I don't know, I'm not watching the tape. I got to go look at the all 22. It looked like he was the nearest guy, but I know how that can be fabricated and twisted. But then he got the book and then, you know, you guys got that turnover. Talk to me about how you were feeling throughout that game, because it seemed like it was an up and down game.
Big Play Slay
Well, yeah, the game was very smooth, man. It was up and down when it came to like the, the third quarter, man. Third. The mid third and in the fourth, like. Because I feel like going into halftime we, even though we weren't playing our best defense, we felt as we went into halftime, 14, seven, you know, so we went there, took. We went there with a good mind, good set, but we knew for a fact that we was not playing, you know, the brand of football we wanted to play. And then, you know, then coming out, you know, offense go three and out. And then we go out there and give up a long drive for a tough. They could tie the game up. That's not how you respond, you know what I'm saying? So that's what we got to get the connection in that. Because that halftime swing was. Could have been big for us, you know, off in guard there, maybe put up three to seven and we go out, they get it three and out and they come out there, you know, so went all bad. But we all had to look ourselves into that mirror and be like, hey, we a better team than this, man. We know we got guys that's very capable of being excellent and we just got to, you know, play ball and, you know, I see how a players got to play like a players, you know, that's all it is.
Sean McVay
What was the most surprising part of.
Big Play Slay
That game, the most surprising part about that game is to me was the fact that I felt like the Seattle Seahawks did not like lose their composure, you know, with us having two turnovers, with us getting to the quarterback a good time. I think we sat there about a little four or five times. They never abandoned the run game. They still kept, you know, Sam Donald Comfortable as in like making sure you still got play actions. Make sure you still not just sitting there, just being just a free target for like us to go sack on them, you know, because of our pad rush. I feel like they did a great job with that. And I was like, you know, surprisingly, you know what I'm saying? Definitely would have got with us going in up 14, 7 and then they coming out, answering, answering and still sticking to their game plan. You know, a lot of teams kind of get away from their game plan when it's time for the guys to kind of peel their ears back and get after that quarterback. They didn't believe in that. They felt as in like, hey, we go establish this run, make sure we keep this run going. And it panned out for him.
Sean McVay
Yeah, it definitely did. It seemed like you guys did a great job on Charbonnet. But Kenneth Walker, you know, he found his lanes and found a way he would. He, you know, created some, broke some tackles. Talk about how difficult he was to deal with in that game because it looked like, I mean, he only had 13 carries, but he had a hundred.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, no, that's the crazy part because the first, like the first drive, man, we stopped around, we was flying around, hitting them and you know, a lot of crack tosses and everything. So we kind of watched that from film last week. You know, we watched him get some against Seattle. I mean, San Fran. A lot of crack tosses, trying to get him vertical. We feel like that was coming to do that. And man, he hit some creases, you know what I'm saying? He got lapped up, you know, definitely had a long run for about 30 or 40 yards. And you see him one on one at our safety, making a great move on him and you know, but. And what really was, is hurting for man is that third and 19 at the goal line, he catch another crack toss and I'm saying it's scold again. So you like, you know what I'm saying? And that's when you be like, yeah, bro, this not the date. This is not the date.
Sean McVay
What was the film room like with that? Cause that's the worst part. That's the part people don't understand is you getting that film. It's not. I mean, dealing with it once is bad enough, it's tough. But having to watch it again and.
Big Play Slay
Hit the coaches and you know, you got Mike T. That's a defensive minded head coach. You can tell that right there. Probably really identify you as a team. You know, thankfully that is early that, that has happened, you know, not late into the, late into the season, thankfully it's in week two. And the fact that, you know, with a defensive head coach minded guy and he watching that on the 3rd and 19 with us, probably can possibly, you know, still be in this game, could still be down two possessions, but now we really down two big time scores, you know, and that's, that's just dreadful for me, you know, I, you know, definitely at 30, 19, and they just crack, toss and get a tub.
Sean McVay
But all the touchdowns weren't on the defense. There was a special teams blunder that happened in the game and I just can't imagine that conversation and what it was like after he fumbled that or he didn't even fumble it, he just let it go into the end zone and I guess he thought it was college rules, because college rules, that's a dead ball. But that man's ain't live.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, it's live. It's live in the mug. You know, not so young kid, you know, of course we, of course we gonna hold him accountable, you know what I'm saying? But hey, hey, we all make mistakes. We never been perfect. None of his ass been. I made plenty of mistakes as a rook when I was young. He made one, you know, hopefully, like. Cause I try when I talk to him. Cause he's my little young guy. Don't let that play define who you are, you know what I'm saying? Cause a play like that, definitely in this type of city, definitely with this type of environment, definitely this type of standard this team has, this organization has, that can ruin a kid career, you know, just because they can always remember to play it back. So I just told them, man, keep your head forward. Don't let that play define you, who you are. You're a young kid, very talented. And so hopefully, man, you know, he put that behind him. And I told him too, man, all the teams told him, man, talk less, don't talk about it no more. Like talk less, don't even bring it up no more. They ask about it, just hey, I'm on the bigger and better things, man. I'm gonna try to do best, fella, you know, be ready, prepared for my teammates. So he doing a good mind, man. But I like I told him, man, keep your head on his shoulders, man. Cause it's tough. That was tough to see. Yeah, it's tough to be a part of.
Sean McVay
It's even tougher in this day and age with social media and all this nonsense because they replay the play over and over. It Used to be like, hey, man, I gotta go home and see this on SportsCenter. But after a week, it's gone, you know, but now things are living on the Internet, living on social media so long, and these fans got so much access to you and send hateful things. And that's what makes it more especially for young kids as you get older, you just, hey, select all delete. You know, you don't read none of that nonsense and you throw a couple blocks at people and you, you, you be be done with it or you don't even read it at all. But as a young kid, it gets in your psyche. You know, it's hard for it not to. And anybody that's sitting there saying, oh, don't let it bother you, you just haven't dealt with it. You haven't dealt with it on this level. You haven't dealt with that level of hate for you. And people thinking that you don't care about something when you've worked your whole life to get here, you've worked your whole life to get in these moments. And you made a mistake. Not because it was purposefully and you were like, oh, conscientious. It was like, hey, I thought this was the rule. Football is a fast game. As soon as he, that ball bounced over his shoulder, it was danger. It was danger time. Because people are hunting, people are moving really fast and they are trying to get him. So at that point, as soon as I didn't see him turn around, I said, ooh, oh, that's bad. Only thing that could have saved you is one of your teammates beat them.
Big Play Slay
There, beat you back. Yeah. And with this new rule, man, with that being a new rule into the league with this kicking stuff, I knew that was going to be a big emphasis just for the NFL because they, like, it's not. It ain't saying not happen, but it's not happening in a regular season game. Most of the leagues happen in preseason, so they ain't blow it out of proportion because they know it doesn't count. It doesn't affect your record, it doesn't affect your person, it might affect your person that's getting cut. Right, right, right. But not as in right now, during the season. So with that being really like the first time of experience of that's really, truly happening and somebody actually scoring off of it.
Sean McVay
Right.
Big Play Slay
I knew it could be a big deal for him, man. So like I said, you know, the hate meals, he most likely got a lot of them, but, man, I'll come continue to keep men in his head and just, hey, man, stay focused, man. We on to the next.
Sean McVay
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's tough. It's tough. It's one of those things you gotta. You gotta just get past. And hopefully he makes a big play later on in the season and he can get past it, you know, and. Because that'll be the thing they remember, you know, this isn't. It'd be different if this was a season defining thing. If this late in the year, this the last game, and that kicks you out of the playoffs or something. But thankfully, this is early in the season. You know, he has plenty of room to grow and plenty of room to make some more plays and make up for that. But I know that's tough on the kid and it was tough on A Rod this day. It was. It was a tougher game for him in that offense. DK Metcalf, I know he was looking for a revenge game, and he got. He got a touchdown in the game, but struggled a little bit. And that's frustrating, too, because I've been there, I've been part of, you know, on the other side. My first game back in Seattle with San Francisco, boy, we got our faces. I want to say they won by 40 or something crazy. And, you know, you'd be sitting there like, hey, bro, y' all couldn't. Like today. Y' all couldn't do it for me today. Like, not B wags had like 100 yard pick six. And he was sitting there laughing with me after, like, looking at me while he was running. I said, hey, don't look at me, God dang it.
Big Play Slay
But I feel you on that. Yeah, I know that robbery. I know that robbery. For real.
Sean McVay
It's for real.
Big Play Slay
Cause I did the same thing too, man. When I got to Philly and I played my first time in Detroit, I was too ready, man. But I got a scoop and score for six, so I was really lit. So you was feeling really good.
Sean McVay
You was feeling like, yes, yes.
Big Play Slay
Y' all done let me go and traded me away. Y' all thought it was so sweet. Okay, I got something for you. So I got something for you. So I know. I know how DK is, man. He was. He kind of kept it cool all week too, though, man. He kept his composure. And I told him, like, you know, I asked him how he felt about it. You know what I'm saying? He kind of cool. He know. He showed, like, you know, hey, it's the best decision I needed to do for myself. And you know what? I'm Saying just cause you know, the different direction there was going and you know, he saw differently then. You know, he had a lot of guys that he, you know, he went to war with. That's probably not going to be there with him as well, which, you know, the business is the business part. But you know, he feel like he loved Pittsburgh and I knew I wanted to have a big game for him, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to make sure, because I'm one of the ones that, hey, I understand how a person feels when you feel like, you know, you did everything for an organization and they either trade you away or release you and then you come there, get a home win for them. It's a different feeling, man. So we damn sure thought about him out there, man. And for us not to get that dub for them, I'll hurt for him too.
Sean McVay
I'll hurt for them. It's tough, it's tough. It's tough.
Big Play Slay
It's tough. It's tough.
Sean McVay
It's a long season. Tell me about the conversations in the locker room from the all pro vets. You know, y' all got so many incredible players on that defense. You, Ramsey, Cam Hayward, TJ Queen, a bunch of big time guys. Tell me how the conversation. Cause I know, I don't know if you guys had a team only defensive only, but I know there was a meeting in the minds after this game because there's a certain standard that each and every one of you guys hold yourselves to. And of course the group as a whole.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, so what? We basically, we didn't have like a team gathering or nothing. It's more of a, like after the game, you know, a lot. You know, of course after the game like that, a lot of guys kind of stay in the locker room. And most likely it was all the vets like me, Ramsey, and you know, all of Cam, tj So we just chopping it up a little bit, man, asking like, hey, what we need to do different? Cause it's early in the year. And so I was giving my perspective of how I felt about what needed to be a little bit. Not saying look crazy different, but just like the aspect of the game or how not to be too hard on ourselves or not. Because I told him, like, I ain't gonna bring up my last year team, you know. Cause Philly, we had the same type of schedule, you know, we had four stroke fourth weeks, then we had our bye week and we had the same thing this year. You know, we got our 4, 4 game, then the bye week and we started off the same way, one and one and you know, we were feeling like we living up to the Philly standard and you know, next thing you know, we turn around after the bye week, number one defense in the league, super bowl champion. You know what I'm saying? So I told him, man, keep our composure and let's be detailed, man, let's get more detailed than we ever been. And everybody just need to accept their role of what their role are. You know, in this league, everybody's a performance based league. So everybody want to outperform something so they get paid. But I said, what y' all don't know is when you win games, you go to playoffs, you get in this championships game.
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Sean McVay
What was that?
Matt Jones
Looks like something that should not be sold.
Sean McVay
Oh, my.
Matt Jones
So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that. Yes. Might want to go back to the.
Sean McVay
Cold stalls at the Colts stadium.
Matt Jones
Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah, I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him.
Sean McVay
I would Listen.
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Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right. The new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season.
Matt Jones
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
Matt Jones
Run Again, bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.
Greg Rosenthal
And of course the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
Matt Jones
What a game, what a season, what a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
Greg Rosenthal
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Matt Jones
I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football season is here and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh huh. But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport. Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan. We don't just love college football, Tyler, we live it. Listen to the Solid Verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies, coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Big Play Slay
People come get winning coaches and they will pay for it. So. So that's why I'm trying to sell folks, you know, I'm trying to steer in folks like, hey, set the bro that you got here and be the master at your role.
Sean McVay
I know, and we've talked about this corner play because people don't understand how hard it is to do What Jalen Ramsey's trying to do. And that's why, you know, I know he got some criticism. First off, he got a nice book. That was a heck of a play. Out of a tough route, that outcut off the. Off the. Switch.
Big Play Slay
Switch.
Sean McVay
I was like, okay, all right. This boy cooking today. But to switch. Cause he played. It looked like he played safety in that game. He played nickel, he played right corner, he played left corner. Um, it's tough. That's a really tough thing to do. And that's why some people were like. And as corners, you kind of, like, you're prideful. Because it's a prideful position. You gotta. I gotta think I'm out here strapping, and, hey, I don't need to move for nobody. It don't matter who come over here. The number one, number two, number three, the best guy, the worst guy. I'm strapping, so I don't need nobody to bounce. But when you have a dynamic like that, it's really tough to get a rhythm when you're inside and outside and then back there to get your press rhythm, your footwork, that's necessary in these plays. And so when people are like, oh, man, he had a tough game. Are you. It's like, hey, what he trying to do is really difficult to do.
Big Play Slay
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, Jake got a lot on his shoulders, you know, with him playing a safety role. He'll start at safety, he'll go to nickel and base. Then he. Sometimes he'd go to corner. He got a lot. And, you know, I always tell him, like, hey, man, I know you got a lot going on, man. But he signed up for it. He loved that challenge. He loved the challenge. So, you know, he had a talk with me today just about like, hey, man, I gotta be way better. Even though with him knowing so many positions, you know, he don't get no. He don't want no leeway. He don't want no patty on the back, just because of the fact that he got three positions he need to learn, because he feel, as in, like, he's one of the best to probably play this game at this corner position. So I understand him. Cause I'm the same way. And then. And I told him, like, when I. When we all got together, you know, when they even made the requirement to trade for Ramsey, like, hey, I've been telling. I've been. I've been the number one corner, a corner for 10 years, you know, in this game, you know, And I told folks, like, I said, you got to play Your role. Like, I'm not here to sit here and say, like, hey, Slay, I know I could travel and do my thing. And he. And whatever. Like, I'm more of a team player, so whatever we fit to need the team to win. If I gotta be the two corner, three corner, whatever corner I need to be, I'm here to do that. And maximum ability of being that. So he understand that role from me. So I'll make him feel comfortable to be able to understand his role from himself. So he understands it. It's a tough challenge, man. He know for a fact that he feel as if he ain't played his best game. He made some plays for us, of course, like he always do. He's Ramsey, but he knows his standard is high to himself because he's one of the best in this game. So every day, you know, we go come put the work in and he got to continue to keep better. I'm going to help him try to get better as well myself. He gonna help me. So I just hope for the best for him. Every year, every time I go out there, I just gotta go out there and get it.
Sean McVay
I think it's a. It's a great conversation. I think it's always a conversation. I know it's a weird dynamic, but it's a conversation, you know, because people always talk about the, oh, you didn't follow this receiver, or you didn't. I followed whenever I was asked to do it. And then when somebody else struggled, like, it's a. It's a different kind of understanding. When you have conversations in the DB room and they say, hey, I want you to follow this guy, because I don't think our other corner can do it. That's pretty much what you're saying. And. And so when our locker room, I had a high respect for the guys we were dealing with, unless those guys was like, hey, Sean, that's cool. Go ahead. Then I stand up, and if you don't, I'll be over there to deal with him. But look, I'm gonna let you take a chance at it. I'm gonna let you. You know what I mean? Cause I believe in you. I respect your game. And if nothing else, we can lean her over there and we can figure it out. But I'm not gonna sit here and bump you and diminish you and say, hey, you can't do this, so let me go strap. That's not necessary. That's not what we need to do. We can lean and figure that out. So I know it's just always a tough thing to navigate, especially two veteran guys, two guys who are Alphas, who've been number ones and so many things. So it's cool that y' all able to have those conversations and at least, you know, come to some common ground and a decent respect and an understanding, because both of y' all can do it. Both of y' all have done it at a high level for a long time.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, yeah, we got a lot of respect for each other, man. We had a conversation. We had one with you, with Mike T. And just like, hey, look, he understood where we at. You know, shoot, Jay know. You know, he know it comes with getting paid $26 million a year. You know what I'm saying? He know. So he ready for it. He always signed up for. He look forward to it every week. Shoot, I look forward to it every week. Whoever I line up in front of me, my job is to, you know, dominate this guy. No matter who it is. This is a tier one receiver or Tier five, it don't really matter.
Sean McVay
I'm ready to go, no question. But that's another aspect of it that I think people don't understand. Just the whole sprinting on the other side of the field, like from side to side, and then you got to jog back like there was. Sometimes we didn't even go back to the huddle because it's like, hey, we treated it like it was too many, you know, two minutes. You just be like, hey, hey, you.
Big Play Slay
Stay over there, bro.
Sean McVay
Hey, come on. Hey, we gonna figure this out. We'll figure this out. That's how we played it a lot of times, because it's just more effective. Like, if somebody's struggling, somebody giving up some plays. Earl, step on that other side of that hatch. I bet you you don't unlock, unleash no go ball. Now my baby come over here and deal with me. And so, you know, there's other ways to navigate it, but I think you guys go get it figured out. You got. Mike T's too smart of a coach. Y' all too talented of a team. It's just a bump in the road that I know is frustrating. How was the environment? Because that's a tough environment to play in all of Seattle. I used to hate playing there when it's still. It's not Hines anymore. What is it now? What was the field called? It was Hines Field back in the day. Yeah.
Big Play Slay
Yeah. We little old. It was a hospital. I still thought it was. I thought it was.
Sean McVay
Boy, I'm like, this Damn stadium.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, Maybe not be. It's my. It's my be my second time in the stadium playing for this team. So this organization. So I don't even know the name. I barely know how to get there.
Sean McVay
Acrisure Aquasure Stadium, formerly known as Hines Field.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, yeah. Hey, I better know how to get there. I still gps.
Sean McVay
Hey, tell me how that environment was. Those fans, you know, the terrible towns, the history of that place, man, it was crazy.
Big Play Slay
Now that I'm on the other side of it, right? You know, they got that renegade song and man, look, I was on the, you know, opponent side at one time listening to. I'm like, dang, this is crazy. And now you feel, you know what I'm saying? Even though I felt the energy from, you know, from being just from an away team, but on the home team, now that you hear it and it's like. And that's what really get you going, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm back where when it comes down to third down or something like that, I might get the. We read or something like that. For the defense, they got the Renegade and they take a long time. Like they hold that clock. Like, I think it's like they might got something with the NFL. Cause they let.
Sean McVay
They might.
Big Play Slay
They let the whole song play out. Like, I'm like, like it's like a TV timeout. And, you know, they get to go on them towers and stuff, man. It was a great environment, man. Fortunately, no, we didn't get the dub that we needed to for the city on our first home. Opening home game. But they bring the energy, man. I never understood the terrible towers thing because I'm just looking, but it's really just a yellow tower. Why is it so terrible?
Sean McVay
I don't know why. You better be careful, Be careful, be careful.
Big Play Slay
Because they think I'm trying to understand the culture, man.
Sean McVay
That's all it is.
Big Play Slay
I'm just trying to say what makes the tower terrible. That's all I want to know.
Sean McVay
Well, in the comments, Steeler fans, y' all make sure y' all educate. Big play. He wants education. Terrible.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, I just want to know the education because I think they need some nice looking towers. That's what I'm thinking.
Sean McVay
Right? They are some nice towels. Yeah.
Big Play Slay
So I'm just trying to figure out what is terrible.
Sean McVay
Y' all got the Patriots in Gillette this week. Talk about how y' all feeling. Cause it's a. It's definitely one of those games where you get felt like, hey, we gotta Bounce back. We gotta make a statement. They played a good game against the Miami Dolphins. We were able to come out with a win against a division opponent. Obviously, there's some up and down play with Drake May, but y' all gotta be feeling really, really good about it.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, it's a good time for us to go out here and, you know, another chance to go out here and perform, play at a higher level, man, and really set the expectations of what we need to be, man. We gotta make a stamp on something, man. Definitely in all phases. Run game, communication, the passing game, you know, every. Every aspect of it. So we got a lot to nothing, lot to do, man. Only thing that's probably been going great for us right now is special team, you know, in a great way. You know, our kicker is not missing nothing. We have guys that's making special teams plays from last week that helped us win the game against the Jets. That one turnover before then, and, you know, special teams came up a little bit big this week. You know, we made them miss a field goal. So overall, man, I think the team for sure got to go out here and just focus details, and we got to be locked in. We got to send a message to the league, and it's really like, I know it's not in our. It's. They are in our division, but not in the division. So it's the afc. So we got to go set the tone for this team because it's some good teams in the afc, man, for us to be one of them, we got to go out here and dominate some guys.
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
Sean McVay
What was that?
Matt Jones
Looks like something that should not be sold.
Sean McVay
Oh, my.
Matt Jones
So that was my other big Colts takeaway. Sold that. Yes. Might want to go back at the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
Sean McVay
Yeah.
Matt Jones
I thought the shape we have with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is spry. I wouldn't fight him. I would Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right, the new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season.
Matt Jones
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves. Themselves run again.
Sean McVay
Rejected.
Matt Jones
That's a bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.
Greg Rosenthal
And of course the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
Matt Jones
What a game. What a season, what a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
Greg Rosenthal
Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Matt Jones
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Sean McVay
Yeah, Speaking of another AFC team, our guy Travis Hunter was able to play 85 snaps this week. He played, I think 30. I don't, I gotta get the exact numbers, but it was, it was a little over 42 on offense. I think he played 38 on defense. That's only, that's adding up to 80, not 85, but you know, that's what they telling us. But he had three catches for 22 yards, two tackles and two passes defended on 38 snaps on defense. What did you think of his game? Obviously that pass interference was unfortunate. I don't see how you can cover that much better. That's one of them calls where I'm like come the f on like I'm playing both ways, doing all this for the game. I cover this 6, 3, 210 pound receiver as well as I can bat the ball away. And y' all call that like you can't call that right there in that spot.
Big Play Slay
You can't. Definitely on the 4th and 5. I already saw the highlight on the board, man. Definitely four from five for a young kid that, you know that's trying to be who he is, that's the number two pick of the draft. So I'm just happy for him. They gave him more reps on defense for sure, man. I want to see in that and you see how the reps goes, his production getting better, you know, definitely the two PBUs. So it's big for him, man. It's big. I like that for him, man. And thankfully like it's good to see him on that defense. You know, I'm a defensive minded guy so I want to see him play.
Sean McVay
That corner and me too.
Big Play Slay
And I'm glad he got a good chance to go against some of the best receivers in this league and he continue to keep, you know, showing sparks because like I said, we all know he get it and very versatile. So we want to see him put that to use, man. Definitely on that defensive side.
Sean McVay
But it's again just to talk about what we talked about before, like you played 42 snaps to get him three catches for 22 yards. Like, was it worth it? Was it worth the energy of putting him out there for 42 snaps? Four and a half, three catches for 22 yards. Like you could do that in 20 snaps. You could do that in 15. Like you don't have to have him out there if that's. He got six targets. Like you could have 20 plays to get every passing down. He's out there and getting his passes. But on defense, I thought he, he played really well. I thought that would have been such an iconic play for him. If they don't call that nonsense on him. Because think about this in another world. He bets that that's game. That's game. So Travis Hutter, playing both ways, makes an incredible play on defense to save the game to seal the win for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Big Play Slay
That BS call just as a corner makes you mad. Boy, that would have been one of the biggest headlines as a rookie this coming week too. Like just the fact that he played them snaps, they would have been talking about, of course they would have been talking about his 3 for 26 catches, about 26 yards. But that play there would like say like, hey Travis is this guy that. We all thought he was definitely that. But you know, that's the ref fault, man. He know you ref.
Sean McVay
That's the thing. Like, especially in that play. Like I could understand if it's egregious. He grabbed him by the neck or grabbed him.
Big Play Slay
It was nothing crazy.
Sean McVay
He got his head around. He got his head around and tapped the ball.
Big Play Slay
That's one of. Come on, man. And that's what they asked for. That's what they asked for us to do. Look, make sure you lean and locate and turn your head. Look for the ball before you can get a PI. But then when you look for the ball with no egregious holding, it wasn't no egregious.
Sean McVay
They hand fighting. So if you going to call that, then like you, the receiver is putting his hands on him and he's putting his hands back on the receiver. They're hand fighting. That's part of the game. Like is there a slight restriction? I'm sure. Are there push offs from receivers? I'm sure. But those are the plays that, that hey, on a fourth and five for the game, you gotta let him play.
Big Play Slay
Unless it gotta be outrageous.
Sean McVay
It gotta be outrageous. Just like.
Big Play Slay
I mean. Yeah. Is it? I mean I, Hey, I'm just, I'll just. Cause I like that's my little homie. So I'M like, hot about it because the fact that, like, that could have been a real signature play to really get his, like, start off his career. When they be like, maybe the first time Travis Hunter made a big time stop. He'd been doing this since the rookie year, you know, early, early. He started off early, like, so that's what I'm blow with about. But I'm sure he gonna have way more opportunities, you know, to make some type of plays. And I'm waiting for his first pick so I can, you know, see what he do with that rock.
Sean McVay
But, you know, he gonna do something crazy with it. I'm almost more frustrated because I know if he makes that play and seals the game, it's gonna put something in the back of his head about like, hey, maybe I'm a db. Yes, you are a db. Yes. Yes.
Big Play Slay
Come join us. Come join us, man. Come join us, man. Come on. Come on over there. You know you want to, you know you want to get in that little pedal, you know, you want to speed, turn and all that. I know, I know, I know. Scoring touchdowns is smooth. I know. I wish I could, too, in the league. You doing it, though.
Sean McVay
But you just need 20, 25 snaps, y'. All, guaranteeing six targets a game. We good to go.
Big Play Slay
Come on, man, get over here with this island so you can come over here and join that DB world. You want to be over here with us, right?
Sean McVay
Right? You want to be, you want to be over here because that's going to allow you to reach the precipice. It's going to reach the heights you can reach.
Big Play Slay
Oh, yeah, you could be that. Yeah, he could be that talent he got, man. He could be in that serious goat conversation one these days if he continue to keep growing as a player every year, man, God forbid, injury free years and good stuff like that. So, man, hey, come on, his ball.
Sean McVay
Skills, his poise, his. His field, like, he's right there. And then, you know, you. You give up that play to, to, to Jamar Chase on the, on the curl. But, I mean, this is Jamar Chase. Yeah.
Big Play Slay
I mean, that's what he's Li for. He got Li for that. He want to be in them conversations that he know he want to be in the type of matchups he got to go dominate and win. I know they gonna come, though. They gonna come, man. They gonna come.
Sean McVay
And he's just a rookie, but I just want him to keep getting more snaps. I like that what they're doing with him. I just wish they. They flipped the Numbers the way I need them to flip because you wasting a lot of energy on 42 snaps to get six targets. So that meant. I mean, what, the other 36 plays, you wasn't. You was just out there twiddling your thumbs, getting conditioning like, we don't need that.
Big Play Slay
Hey, them receivers call it cutting grass.
Sean McVay
Cutting grass.
Big Play Slay
That's what the receivers call it. Occupy. They cutting that grass, man. I'm out here just cutting grass, Slay. That's what these would tell me, boy. They like, I'm just cutting this grass, man. I'm just running up and down this field and coming back.
Sean McVay
I love it. I love it. Okay, we got a question from the fans. Big play. They said, who is your best corner of all time? Now, before we go too deep in this and go down the rabbit hole, we gotta. You can't forget about Mel Blunt and Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes and Daryl Green. And you got Champ and Dion. And, like, there's a lot of guys in there that could throw their hat in the ring.
Big Play Slay
Yeah, my goat of all goats right now, I ain't going to. Is by far his champ. You know, he's from around the corner, down the street from where I'm from, man. Everybody wanted to be like Champ where I'm at. And, you know, so that's always been the goat, man. I wanted to go to Georgia because he went to Georgia. You know what I'm saying? All that I wore. He wore number four. I wore number four. I wore four in high school. So I always wanted to be like, champ. Cause that's just like, who would go be the next champ? Come up. So I did get that kind of recognization, as in, like, Slade might got a chance to be the next champ around here right now. So I had to. I had to scale up there. So I'm feeling good. So. And, you know, of course, you know, he's, you know, first ballot hall of fame, had an amazing career in college based on that. So. I know. But coming through high school, I was getting that kind of, like, love, as in, like, okay, we finally got us another down south guy that's kind of like a champ because he was magnificent, man. Everybody tried to do everything, mimic everything. And I played corner because of him, Everything. So champ, my goat, always. And then he panned out the way I wanted him to pan out in the league. Shoot. I love it. I love it.
Sean McVay
Yeah. I mean, that 10 pick year he had was wild, too. Like, I don't think people talk about that enough. That 10 pick year champ Had, Boy, he was out there playing some football.
Big Play Slay
Football, man. That's why I'll be saying, you know, I, you know, everybody know who the ap, you know, got. Dion has the goat. But I'm just saying, like, Champ definitely close to that conversation.
Sean McVay
Let me, let me get his numbers because I don't wanna, I don't wanna.
Big Play Slay
Oh, Champ up there. I think Chad what got like, what he like, 50, 55 picks maybe? Don't worry, don't worry.
Sean McVay
It's gonna be right here for you in a second. Give me, give me two seconds. Give me two seconds. Lynn. Barney. That's 1940.
Big Play Slay
Let's see, 1940.
Sean McVay
No, I'm going all the way back. I'm Champ Bailey, 52 interceptions, 52.
Big Play Slay
I knew, yeah.
Sean McVay
Deion 53. Kyl Law, 53, Anas Williams, 55. Paul Krause got 81. See, but they, they told me, hold.
Big Play Slay
On, hold on, hold on. They just switched to 81.
Sean McVay
No, because I just went to the top because what they were saying, Dick Nitrain Lane was up there for a while. They be playing, you know what I mean? They be fluctuating these numbers because these numbers look different before because they got Night train Lane at 68 now and Rob Woodson at 71 and Emlyn Tunnel at 79.
Big Play Slay
God dog, what up?
Sean McVay
See, that's when the game was different. That's why fans are like, yeah, you guys don't get as many interceptions anymore because it's a different game. Like, yeah, quarterbacks were out there first off, concussed every time, barely up from down. They're, they're hit, they're under duress and they not worried. They weren't worried about interceptions back then. They weren't seen the way we see them now. It wasn't like, oh, a quarterback, those four interceptions, they're the worst quarterback in the world. It's like, hey, just win the game. And so the whole, the whole way football was looked at was different. Now everything is efficiency. Like, hey, you throw two picks in a game, you're the worst quarterback in the world. So quarterbacks are, are risk averse. That's why you're not getting a 13, 14 interceptions going to lead the lead. Back in the day, you had 20, 25 interceptions easy. Brett Favre got the most interceptions in the history of the game. He was throwing them out, giving them out like, like hotcakes. And so I wish we played in there in an era where they weren't treating quarterbacks like, hey, man, if you throw a few interceptions, look, don't Don't. Don't treat them so bad because, like, let them throw a couple to me and let me feed my family. But facts, you know, quarterbacks rather eat the ball or throw it out of bounds or make it uncatchable than to throw you a book.
Big Play Slay
I'm trying to tell you, boy, because definitely Bear Foster. What the most ever boy. That boy was like what. How they was in long yards. He like Mac tickets for everybody. Just he throw the bed.
Sean McVay
Well, boy.
Big Play Slay
God, Lee. Yeah, man. Buff. That's why I be telling folks when we be always talking about this version of football and that version of football. That version of football was really strictly about winning. Like, it was really about that. It was not about no stacks about if he threw for 300 yards and da da, da this year ever. It's all about numbers. Everybody want to bring in numbers. Numbers this, numbers that. His numbers this and numbers that. Numbers do. Numbers do take an effect, but like.
Sean McVay
When it comes down to big player, he threw 336.
Big Play Slay
Come on. Well, that. That's a lot.
Sean McVay
The next closest person had 277. 300 and.
Big Play Slay
What?
Sean McVay
36.
Big Play Slay
And I can only imagine how many games he played. I know he ain't played that.
Sean McVay
He probably what his interception percentage was only 3.3%. So it was a lot. He played a lot of games because George Blanda was 6.9 and John Handel was 5.7 and Vinnie Tessaverde threw 267. But it was only 4% of the passes he threw. So. Yeah, yeah. 336.
Big Play Slay
God damn it. Through 400.
Sean McVay
That.
Big Play Slay
Damn it. That, damn it. Pick a game.
Sean McVay
I'm saying, like if they was feeding like that when we played, I, I could get a 50 piece. But that's, that's what people don't appreciate about how hard it is to get interceptions in this day and age of, of all this efficiency and, and all this, you know, I mean, all these eyes on it. Quarterbacks aren't going to do it if they don't have to do it. You got to hunt for them. Yeah, you got to hunt for them. And the quarterbacks aren't concussed. They as comfortable as they. I was talking to Jared Goff or I was talking to Big Witt and he said Jared Goff was telling him sometimes some games he's not even sore after the game because they're not getting hit like that no more. I mean, they got a great offensive line, but I mean, I'm sure they take enough sacks. They're Going to feel sore. But it's a different game. And that's why the old school quarterbacks talk about it. It's so soft because they had to play under such duress.
Big Play Slay
Yeah. I mean, talking about really getting hit and then you might pop up really with a fully full blown concussion. If you go to that sideline, you're going to feel it today. That's it. But look, I know I got 28 and I know for a fat boy, if I played in 19. 60. 70. 80. And I'm having 50 of them.
Sean McVay
Give me 50.
Big Play Slay
Yeah. Would you probably have about 60? 70. I know I got me about 50.
Sean McVay
I would have been on over that water every year. Like, let me get a car. I ain't dropping too many of these books now.
Big Play Slay
Not. And then he. And they wasn't so bad about the game back then. It was. No, it wasn't that much. Crazy route combinations, man. That thing would have been. No, man. Hey, you already was picking all the fade balls.
Sean McVay
Look, I saw everything. See some of them routes from back in the day and I, I love them dudes because they could play, but it just was different. The Christmas wasn't, you know, I mean, it didn't need to be, you know, I mean, they, they. That's a. It's a different game, but.
Big Play Slay
It's a very different game. For sure. But it's all respect from guys, though. It was a different.
Sean McVay
Now they asking how deep was the Hardball Carroll rivalry. Understand this. Y' all can look this quote up. When Pete Carroll was asked, did he have anything fun to say this week about Jim Harbaugh, he said, no, I have no fond memories of him. That's how that rivalry goes. Look, Jim has changed over the years. Jim has gotten a lot better and more peaceful, more. You know what I mean? Cordial. But he felt that way too about the rivalry for a while, at least while we were at Stanford. I think over the years, you know, if bygones are bygones, he's let a lot of things go that Pete. I don't know if he's let go, but I'm interested to watch this game tonight because that's going to be a dog fight. But I don't think there's any love lost or love found between them two. Big play.
Big Play Slay
Hey, I know it ain't. But that's crazy, though, that you play for both of them. So it's like that's almost asking you a question. I don't even want to put you in that tough bind act, but I Ain't gonna put you in that tough bind right there.
Sean McVay
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I didn't play. I didn't play for both of them a couple different times, you know what I mean?
Big Play Slay
I know, that's what I'm saying. So I'm like, I ain't even gonna put you that body. But I know, boy, that gonna be so and for real though, how Pete be looking and how he be running and being added. He might be the most in shape, man, I've ever seen in my life at that age, but he might be ready to box him too, if he ready.
Sean McVay
Yeah, yeah, he definitely look he gonna be in shape for it. He maximizing that, what, 73, 74 year old body he got, man.
Big Play Slay
I'm telling you, I ain't never seen him. I be seeing him doing push ups. I be seeing him running up and down the field, sprinting, throwing the ball, playing quarterback with the team. I know he be throwing ducks out there, but he's still throwing that back.
Sean McVay
He swear he's way, he's way the best quarterback to ever play. But I appreciate your big play for joining us. I know this is your off day coming up and you got things to do, people to see, places to be. As always. It's all love, brother.
Big Play Slay
All real love. Oh, you already know what time it is.
Sean McVay
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Appreciate you guys joining us too. You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with me and my guy. Big play and we appreciate that. Hit that sub button if you knew.
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Sean McVay
What was that?
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