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Sharp or Square - NFL WEEK 10 REACTIONS - Bills-Dolphins, Ravens-Vikings, Jaguars-Texans, Rams-49ers, Bears-Giants and more
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Chad Millman
That'S odoo.com welcome to Sharper Square, presented by Hard Rock Bat. We are part of the Volume Podcast network. This is the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined as always by my co host, my bff, my companion, my compadre professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon.
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Simon Hunter
Chad. How we doing?
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Chad Millman
Boy, I mean, it was crazy in the first, first games today. I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna dig in the second half. At one point in the early part of the second quarter, the combined scores of the games, the three games, was 78 to 3. So I just spent 90 minutes waiting for the game for their show to start. Listen, Simon, we loved the jets all week. We didn't put them in the final five. We loved the Texans all week. Did not put them in the final five. Unfortunately, there were others that we did love and we never wavered on. Our record for the day right now is two and two. We won with the Ravens minus three and a half. We went with the Dolphins. Kudos, Simon, for forcing that one in at plus nine and a half. You were hinting at it all week. Lost with the Bucks minus two and a half. We got warned. We couldn't walk away and we lost with the Cardinals plus six and a half. That was a dead bet. Even I knew that was a dead bet. The eternal optimist knew that was a dead bet. We have the Eagles plus two and a half against the packers on Monday Night Football. Last one's in where the Eagles last one's out were the Niners, plus three and a half. All right, we're going to get to our early leans. Our review of how we did in all our picks. Your live comments from the chat, send them in. Let's get into it. Minnesota at Baltimore. Baltimore was three and a half. Listen, dude, that first series we both know enough to know like you don't win a bet or lose a bet on the first series. We saw that throughout the day. J.J. mcCarthy was 3 for 4 for 76 yards on the first series, 17 of 38 for 172 yards the rest of the game. The reason we decided we liked the Ravens was because we didn't like J.J. mcCarthy. Feel like that generally came true today.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, we, we knew this was probably not the best spot for jj. Rick, coming off a big win in a game that we both agree it was felt very fluky, but like he had a bunch of things go his way in that matchup. He actually didn't play that great and the flip side couldn't get around good. The Vikings defense played and I said, I don't know if that's something that can happen again back to back weeks, like I just, I thought Detroit missed a bunch of opportunities in this week. The Ravens just didn't miss it. Right. Even if they were sloppy, like we said, that was the only worry that could be. Come out slow, a little sloppy off the bye week. Um, you know, this Ravens team and.
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Chad Millman
They did, by the way, they did like that opening drive. JJ looked great and the Ravens really couldn't tackle. So it's not like they came out perfect. But as the game went on, they continue to get better and better. And Lamar Jackson got better and better and Derrick Henry got better and better and the Vikings could never find their ground.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it's just interesting though, like these teams that play Thursday, the mini bye weeks, it's just how are they going to come out, perform early on the game because it is an extended rest. Right. A lot of these guys do go away for a couple days and take a little break. They just didn't look like they were in it in that first half. Defense, luckily was. They played really well.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
But then that second half, Lamar started making those key throws, started connecting in the red zone and it was, it was over. Right. They steamrolled him. So we were a little nervous about it. Not going to lie. We just couldn't understand why these books Sunday morning were still -3 and a half. I could not believe it. And we both bet it and joked about it and put it in. We're like, man, hope this doesn't bite us. It just feels way too easy. But you saw Late money came in. This number jumped to five. Had a lot of books before kickoff. So that was unlike the Tampa Bay game, which that number did not move an inch.
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Chad Millman
It got close. It got to like two and a half, minus 120. We'll talk about that in a sec. To me, McCarthy, it's going to be interesting how we manage and handicap McCarthy, because in that second half, he threw the pick on the opening drive. It was basically a punt, but it was a third down and he just let the ball go, and it ended up in the hands of. I forgot who. It was deep in the. The Raven secondary that led to Humphrey. Was it Humphrey? Yeah, it was Humphrey. That led to a field goal to put them ahead 12, 10. And then look right after that, the Vikings fumble a kickoff, it's 1910, and the Ravens basically took control from there. Derrick Henry played great. The one thing that I wonder if we have to think about, Andrew Van Ginkel, the last two games has been really good for the Vikings, and it has been a difference in the first half. He made some really great plays. Last week against the Lions, he was making a lot of really good plays. We don't like the Vikings rush defense, and they were not very good today. But Van Ginkel can make one or two plays over the course of a game where that challenges and stresses the opponent. The Vikings cannot figure out how to capitalize on. Those is the problem. I don't know if you recognize that when you were watching this game, maybe a little bit.
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Simon Hunter
I just honestly thought if the Ravens played better in the red zone, we would have won and covered this by 20 points. They just moved the ball up and down the field. And like you said, JJ Was making stupid mistakes. Lamar, not that I thought he wasn't trying, but felt like he had opportunities to run the ball. He said, I'm not wasting my body in this game. I'm not taking hits. I'll just throw it away or take that pass downfield instead of taking those opening lanes. So. Was pretty interesting.
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Chad Millman
Yeah. The Vikings had eight false starts in this game. Eight false starts. So at home. At home. Yeah, at home. New England at Tampa Bay. All right, let's talk about this one. It never moved. It got up to minus 120. I thought it would get to three. Like, we were talking about it all week. We were nervous all week about this number. We got warnings from the wise guys. We never backed off. And honestly, even through the first half, it looked. It looked like it was even. It looked like it was going to be a field Goal game. Baker was perfect in that first drive. He was accurate. They ran easily. A Mecca, you know, made a nice catch to score the touchdown. I was feeling pretty good after that first drive and the way they were playing in the first half overall except for the very last play of the first half. Then it became a variable coaching win to me.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, honestly, I feel like it came down to one play and Vrabel almost outsmarted himself. I don't know if people saw it if you were watching that Snowland Tampa Bay game, but basically they had a first down at the one and Drake May fell on the ball at the one to run the clock 40 seconds before they took their second snap. So basically use their first down as a nothing like took that risk. And it came down to a fourth down play in the back of the end zone. Insane throw, insane catch by Diggs. So yeah, this, this whole Drake May thing, I said it to you. He. He's giving me major, major Carson wentz vibes from 2017, the year Eagles won the Super Bowl. He is reckless with his body, he is not consistent as a thrower, but in big moments with pressure in his face, he is deadly accurate downfield like anything over 10 yards, whatever it is, he is been money for them and continuing this game. He had a couple huge thirds that saved us, but this really is a Josh McDaniels game. Like what they did with Henderson, the rookie that, you know hasn't been seen the field because he can't pass block and they're forced into it with an injury to Stewardson. They were in a spot where they had a lead so they knew that, okay, we're going to run it anyway with the kid. Need two insane runs that totally flipped the game. Yeah, I mean just break away. Insane speed. So bad bet. Should have trusted our gut on it when it wasn't moving. We should have known better. Like we said, had a ton of warnings and yeah, it's. It's a tough loss.
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Chad Millman
Well, look, that what might be the most fun, interesting, exciting play of the year is Travion Henderson, who's been getting bashed all season because he's so talented, but they can't put him in for all the reasons you just talked about. Breaks away for what, a 59 yard run that concealed the game and. And he's so far ahead of everybody on the Bucks defense as he's running for the touchdown that he has time to start veering to the middle of the field from the sideline and look over at the Patriots bench to ask if he should score the touchdown with less than two minutes left and put them up by 12, I think. Or if he should slide and end the game and all the coaches waved him in and told him to go score the touchdown. I love that it was heads up. I love that he's paying attention to the coaches. I love that he got to score the touchdown. I love that he was so far ahead of everybody else that he had time to actually do this. That was remarkable. That just shows how fast the kid is.
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Simon Hunter
And just if he gets going, my God. Maybe we need to start taking this Patriots team a little more serious because like we keep saying, between the coach and the quarterback, it's hard to find a better combo. Right on the afc, which is insane to say. But this Drake, this Drake may variable combo right now is like we always talk about. There's bad spots. This is supposed to be a bad spot. In the weather, in the element. They played like the more veteran team and that was the most shocking part of that game.
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Chad Millman
That was a 69 yard run by the way. And this was nice. You know, we, we. I've said this a few times. Before the year began, we set the line on variable coaching wins at two and a half. I feel like he's at least at four, if not five. And today was another one of those just with that sort of thoughtful strategic clock management and then going for it at the end of the first half. That's, that's. That's 14 points they manufactured there because they got the touchdown instead of going for the field goal at the end of the first half. And then they opened the second half and the second play is the Travion Henderson run. So now all of a sudden it goes from 14 to 10 to 21 to 10. And that's the ball game for them. They never looked back again. And it's all because of the way Vrabel managed the game. Just brilliant. Brilliant guy. Love him.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. I will say this. New England Patriots next three games, Jets, Cincy, Giants, then their bi week. So if they can get to 11 and 2 because then after the bye week it is brutal. They got Buffalo, Ravens, jets and then they finish off with Miami. So yeah, this is pretty surreal. There is a path for them to the one seed now like after you win this type of game. Oh yeah, you drop only one or two more games rest of the year. There's a real chance New England's got that one seed and we are going to get some amazing value trying to fade them in the playoffs.
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Chad Millman
Well look, they're two and a half games up on the Bills because we're going to talk about the Bills next. But they've beaten the Bills and now they're up two games in the win column. They're a much better team right now than the Denver Broncos. Right. Who are. Have a similar record. They're a much better team right now than the Kansas City Chiefs who are multiple games back of the Patriots right now. So this is getting. And they're. It'd be an interesting conversation about the Colts and the Patriots right now because I do not think the Colts were that impressive today and beating up the Falcons. We can talk about that a little bit later. But first let's talk about Buffalo at Miami. Buffalo was a 9 1/2 point favorite. You were insistent all week. Flowers for Simon. Flowers for Simon. It's not flowers for Charlie, not from always Sunny. Flowers for Simon because you were insistent that we put the Dolphins in. It was the right spot. The one thing you said again and again, Devon HN running the ball. The guy had 174 yards of rushing today. Like this was not a Tua game. This was a Devon Achan game.
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Simon Hunter
That was part of it. The, the big part too is the TUA being comfortable, whatever it is, when he is comfortable in these homesteads. That stat's crazy now. Now he's up to 40 in this exact spot as a dog straight up and against the spread, which is just crazy because I think they showed the last time he beat Josh Allen was in like 2020. So really unique spot for them. And yeah, it's the dream. Bet everything went our way in this game and everything. I've been saying that I looked like a fool last week because Josh Allen played so well against the Chiefs. I just. There's just something off about him this season and I saw it in this game again. Yeah, he just isn't what he was last year in the MVP caliber level, which again, that's impossible to live up to. But that's the level he needs to play at for this team to win. They just have so many deficiency, not only a wide receiver but the defensive side like this. We talked about this run game for Hn everything like that. It matched up great for them. But you know, I think it was 16 nothing heading into the fourth quarter. The Bills defense didn't play that bad. It just the fumbles, the turnover, everything just went so bad with the Spills team. So yeah, dream scenario, you know, get the big win, big upset. Looks good for survivor pools. Unfortunately, I Got knocked out on Carolina, so didn't matter. But this was a big play. Not many people gave Miami a chance here. And I got why you hated it. You felt gross. I had to bully into it. But it's like it was such a spot for this Dolphins team. And you saw before kickoff, we did the show, I think at 9am it was plus nine. It was plus seven and a half by kickoff.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
And this is with all the teasers parlays. All the suckers are going in late, hammering that bill side. And it's never good. You get that much reverse line action, especially on a big dog like that. Yeah, that. That was a good one. But, yeah, like, that's. We joke all the time. That's the dream for betting a dog. You start the game a 130 lead, and everything kept going wrong from the Bills from that point forward. So, yeah, needed that win.
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Chad Millman
Tua was 10 of 14 for 131. I think in the first half, the Bills had 90 total yards. In the second half, how many times do you think Tua threw the ball?
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Simon Hunter
Three.
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Chad Millman
He threw it seven times. Yeah, that's it. In the entire.
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Simon Hunter
I mean, they didn't need it, right?
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Chad Millman
They didn't need it, right. And then the Bills finally drive in the middle of third and Josh Allen throws that pick in the end zone that made Matt Mitchell want to drink a can of paint while he was sitting in his basement painting the basement after all this water damage. And like, it was just he. He had made so many plays to get them in a position to score on that drive. And then through this weird pick, they had a weird fourth and one where they were set up in that sort of snowplow formation where they go for it. And then instead he rolled out and threw a pass of alley OOP into the middle of the field that fell to the ground. He fumbled the ball with seven minutes left, down 10 while fighting for extra yards after getting seven or eight on a third and one.
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Simon Hunter
I mean, it's nev. Everything went wrong.
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Chad Millman
Everything went wrong.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
It was just nothing. Nothing went right. They could not get close. In my head, though, going into the fourth quarter, I'm still like, the Bills could still score three touchdowns and cover this number. I was like, I had so little faith in the Dolphins that I just was doing the gambler's math. You know what? I didn't do gambler's Math for Arizona plus six and a half against Seattle because. Oh, my Lord. Down 21 in the first quarter from a opening drive. Touchdown. A Brissette sack and fumble and 18 yard drive that leads to a punt. That leads to another long Seattle drive. And then the first minute of the second quarter, the same guy who forced the first fumble and scoop and score on Brissette, Tyrese Knight for the Seahawks and the same guy who scored in that first fumble to Marcus Lawrence, they bited up, did it again. So it was 28 nothing 15 minutes into this game.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, we, we obviously picked a really bad spot to back Brissette. They flashed the record as dominant Seattle's defense has been this year. They had zero touchdowns scored. Like you said, they had two in the first quarter. Just terrible, terrible bet. Totally walked into it. I was hoping to avoid this game or the 49ers game won the 49ers game, couldn't avoid this one. We loved it all week. I'd bet it all week. And yeah, it's, it's the worst, right? When you back these dogs and they're down 21 nothing in the first quarter, even if you want a lot of yourself, there's just no scenario. Like you need a total meltdown from their team. And even the Seahawks try to give it back.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, they did a few times. A lot of turnovers and like, yeah.
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Simon Hunter
They just kept, they kept going for it on fourth down in the red zone and just failing on a couple different times where they could have got back into. We had a chance at the back door and just slammed shut on us so bad, bad, bad. Like we said the afternoon, it was non contest in all three games and we happened to be on the dog and two of them, they got absolutely rolled.
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Chad Millman
It was 38, 15 when Sam Darnold threw a pick in the third quarter after the Cardinals had already, had already scored a touchdown and a two point conversion. I'm not gonna lie. Like when the Cardinals got that pick because it was deep in Seahawks territory, I'm like, okay, I started doing some math. Like maybe they get the touchdown, maybe they get the two point conversion. 38, 23, like with, you know, a quarter and a half left in the game. Not, not impossible. And then they just couldn't convert on fourth down and it was over.
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Simon Hunter
Good. You don't know. You don't want to waste any of your luck on that game. I'm glad we got rolled. That would have been a waste to try to use some of our, you know, your luck on just because it was, like you said, it was deader than dead in that first quarter.
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Chad Millman
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Chad Millman
All right, so we got the Eagles plus two and a half tomorrow night. We do have to address the Broncos, which was Simon says. And when we ended the show on Thursday, we were pretty confident that was going to be a final five pick. And then we talked this morning and it wasn't a final five pick. I think you and I didn't communicate or actually we just decided it wasn't going to be a pick after the show and, and never made it into the final five. And so we, that's really what happened.
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Simon Hunter
There's no, yeah, we got done the show. You were very non committal. As much as I liked it, I think you were just being nice and you're like, I don't know, I don't know if I want to do another five. And I was like, well, we can figure it out. And like I always say to people, if we do do our Thursday game, I will tweet it out beforehand just because I know people are working, they can't catch a show. I have no issue for our Sunday show. Obviously we don't want to be tweeting our picks but Thursday, that's a tough spot to try to get people to listen and know what our pick is for that game. So I, I, I didn't know it was that. I didn't know we talked about it like that. I thought we just said we were thinking about putting them as a possibility. If it makes people feel better, they want to lie to themselves. Just act like I switched out Denver and the Bucks. I mean it's the same thing. Like it's, I get where they're coming from. We should be 2 and 3 right now. But I, I don't know. I never. There was a high possibility of us putting in the Broncos for sure, but I, I definitely sensed you were not committed and put it in. And yeah, like you said, we never even discussed putting in after the show. And in the future, Thursday, Fridays, Saturday games, I'll try to tweet it out beforehand in case people don't catch the show. If we are putting a pick in those early games.
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Chad Millman
Honest miscommunication. Matt Mitchell actually was adamant this morning before the Sunday show that we did it and then we overruled him and decided that we, that we ultimately just didn't want to put it in. Or at least I didn't want to put it in. And so Simon was non committal on it and so it just, it didn't make it in.
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Simon Hunter
And again, we would own it. These people, they know the deal. We own our losses. We literally do a show recap in our picks every week. So I get it. Huge apology if people did think we did say that. But yeah, it's usually to get a bet in. Chad needs to be all in on it. I need to be on it. Especially if it's going to be a Thursday or Friday game.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, apologies. Many, many apologies. We obviously exercise as much transparency as possible so when we screw it up, we want to make sure everyone's aware of how that happened and pull back the curtain. Lots of bad actors in the betting space. A game that we talked a lot about today and was the last one out. Los Angeles Rams at San Francisco San Francisco was a six point underdog by the time this kicked off. Niners went down early. Rams looked like they were playing seven on seven. Niners went down 14, nothing. They're finally driving. Mac Jones is looking like he's the best quarterback on the Niners. And Juwan Jennings fumbles in Niners territory. All of a sudden they're down 21 nothing. And like they kept coming. They kept coming. They kept coming. The Niners did. Mac Jones at one point was like 27 of 30 or something like that. Christian McCaffrey was slicing and dicing. But this defense, they just, I felt bad for him. They couldn't, they couldn't make the plays. Stafford is awesome.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. Like you said, the. I mean, this. We talked before, and the reason I wanted to get out of it just. I knew all the pros, the smart guys were on the other side and I heard their vantage point of it, which did make sense. Stafford right now is just. He breaks the rules. He's. Yeah, he's just on a different level, I think they said. I don't know how long it's been, but I know for a fact he's the first quarterback in the last two years that has three straight games with over four touchdown passes in each game. So he's on a roll right now. That offense, Devonte, Adams, Puka, fully healthy, Williams running back, it's just all clicking. And like you said, that 49ers defense, they gave us nothing. Mac Jones played pretty well. They get over three passing.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
Had two or three passing touchdowns. Was really getting Kittle involved. You know, they're just. It's just one of those days. So. Yeah, it's. I'm glad I got us to avoid it and take it out. I had a bad feeling about it. Just the noise I was getting about this one and I was just like, okay, I got to do something here because I can't let it. Like last week I didn't say anything because I. We had been on a little bit of a roll. I'm going to try to speak up whenever it's just like, okay, we gotta. We gotta make a move here and get this one out. So. Would have been brutal if the 49ers came back and covered and the Eagles lose the next night. I absolutely would have, like an idiot. But thank God we're sitting here. 2 and 2 still have a chance of 3 and 2 rather than 2 and 3. So this niners team and we'll see next week if the seesaw continues. They just. That trend is insane. Since Christmas 2023, they're now 1 in 15 against the spread after a straight up win.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, I'm sad for this team because they could be so good. And it's like, how did the Rams not have the same kind of injury luck as the Niners? Every year it's these two teams battling and every year it feels like the Niners are trying to overcome and come from behind because of some catastrophic injury. And it's happened again this year and it's just. It's just a bummer. Every year they lose another year of opportunity for someone who's brilliant. I think in Kyle Shanahan, Christian McCaffrey it's just. It's devastating for that team.
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Simon Hunter
I'll tell you this much. Whatever the billionaire, billionaire owner did of the Rams with Stafford for that month before the season, remember he was just like inside an oxygen tube or whatever. He's gone for like a month and they were like, he's just resting for the season. Genius. I mean, give me one of those.
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Chad Millman
Just give it to me.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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Chad Millman
I could use it.
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Simon Hunter
Use it.
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Chad Millman
Especially when it's like 4:30 and the sun is down and I'm already exhausted and want to go to bed and just get under the covers. So give me something. Whatever Stafford's got, I want it.
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Simon Hunter
It's. Seriously though, it worked. Whatever it was.
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Chad Millman
Guess what's working? The Chicago Bears and Ben Johnson and their ability to score in the final two and a half minutes of the game, no matter what the scenario and win. Because today, with 2 minutes and 17 seconds left, the Bears were down 20 to 10. 70 seconds. 77 seconds later, they were up 24 to 20. Comprehend that they scored a touchdown with 2 minutes 17 seconds left. Down 2017. Literally with 1 minute left, they scored the go ahead and touchdown. That's ridiculous. And it was Caleb running it from 18 yards out for that go ahead touchdown. Look, I'm glad we had put in the contest because the contest line was three and a half. It was four and a half most of the week. I loved it. At four and a half you were against. You liked the Bears especially when it was the contest line of three and a half. So I'm glad we didn't put it in. But these Bears are crazy and they should not have won this game.
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Simon Hunter
Love it though. It's just there's such a fun team. Like you said, 14 points in that no sense five minutes. And yeah, this is the way they play. Like they just never give up. And that's what soaks fun when you have a winning culture. You always believe even when you're having a bad day. And like you said, Dart was doing whatever he wanted, right? He kind of got into that mode with using his legs and like you said, they just couldn't stop it. He's just such an asset using his legs. And that's what bit him though. He took a hit. They had to bring in Russell Wilson and he is just atrocious. Terrible, totally terrible. So Bears incredible win. Like you said, the number was four. A bunch of people pushed out there. The under which we talked all week. Weather under got scary at the end there, but it covered every number Even the closing line, I think it closed at 44 and a half, covered that number as well. So, yeah, really, really fun game. And yeah, this Bears team is magic. Like you always joke, even if you limp into the playoffs, who cares? You just get Caleb into the dance, let him get a little taste of the speed and how different it is and something to build on heading into the off season. And yeah, you guys to me, are a year early. Really exciting times for the Bears. And yeah, the hope is you don't fall off a cliff here because this is the exact turning point of last year. You did. But with the new coaching regime, I just think this is another jumping off point to keep pushing forward. And you have a lot of divisional games. Ed. So really excited to see how this, this Bears team close the season out.
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Chad Millman
We are three games beyond the turning point from last year because last year we were 4 and 2. Lost to the Commanders, lost 10 in a row. Season was over. We're 6 and 3, buddy. We're three games beyond last season's debacle. But, boy, we got away with Jackson Dart because he was basically winning that game for the Giants until he scrambled, fumbled, was concussed deep in the Bears territory. That would have put them up at least 23 to 10. And you know, it never, never turned around for the Giants again. How about the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Houston Texans, who we loved all week? Unfortunately, they were not in the contest for us. And Davis Mills was picked on the opening drive. It led to a field goal. The Jags scored a touchdown in the next drive, punt return. Then Texans down 29 to 10 in the fourth quarter. And the Jags jagged and man, it was freaking glory us to see the Jags do exactly what we thought they would do the entire freaking game. Only have it all compressed into 15 minutes.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, and definitely a game like you said, it feels like you're still one there because Davis Mills did everything in his power to give it away to start the game. And then special teams, total disaster. Like you said, this kid, you know, this Jaguars team was out Travis Hunter and Brian Thompson Jr. It's like they were down there. Two receivers, they got no name. Guys making plays against, you know, the number one defensive football. And it's just I was killing myself. I was like, all right, that was a bad bet. How do I keep trusting this Texas team when I should have known better? But you know, that was a crazy line movement game. That number closed minus one on the Texans, 30 to 29.
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Chad Millman
It opened minus one and a half, bounced to two and then closed it, bounced to plus two and then close the minus one.
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Simon Hunter
And like again we always talk about, I love these type of games because it lands on the one, they go for two, they don't get it and goes, oh my God, this is going to happen. Like this is going to be the type of middle people dream of. Like people took the Jags plus one and a half, they took Houston plus one half. They're going to hit a one on the one on both sides and just Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence in the book or in the, in it together. Terrible turnover. Then the game guy walks in for a touchdown. They cover the number. I think they won 36, 29. Pretty insane for anyone.
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Chad Millman
Second time this year after that Eagles game. Yeah, a cover turned on a last second fluke play by a 400 pound guy. By a 400 pound guy who just didn't stop. He's just like, I am freaking scoring a touchdown here. What's crazy is in that fourth quarter the Texans scored 26 points. They outscored the Jacks 26 to nothing in the fourth quarter, including that last second touchdown. In between that, other than that last drive between the start of the fourth and when the Texans took the lead, the Jaguars had, what was it, three plays for minus four yards, three plays for six yards. So they had six plays for two yards with a Jack's touch with a Texas touchdown before, between and after those two drives. And Davis Mills, by the way, the drive, the game winning drive, 93 yards on 14 plays and they ended it with a Davis Mills 15 yard scramble. And they were only on the 15 yard line because they had been on the two and then had multiple penalties and plays for a loss that pushed them back to the 15th. So it was like third and goal when he scrambled for the game winning touchdown. Total miracle by Davis Mills and the Texans. Kudos. Thank you. We didn't get in the contest, but it certainly did help our ledger for the day. Another team that helped our ledger for the day, the New York jets plus two against the Cleveland Browns. And listen, we said all week this wasn't a bet on the jets, it was a bet against Dylan Gabriel as an NFL quarterback. And that's kind of how it played out.
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Simon Hunter
He did all right. It's also just about stupid football is right. We got a special teams touchdown, fought like a kick return followed by a pun return. It's just, yeah, I know you can't make it up, so I'll take it. Like we said, that was a Jets spot. Jets number came through another game, we're both kicking ourselves. We didn't play in the contest, but it was. It was minus one and a half, so it was tough to get there. But we screwed up. This was. We almost made this a rock and a hard place this morning. We took the.
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Chad Millman
And we almost made it brass balls and we took Arizona instead.
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Simon Hunter
So bad miss on us. We just. We loved it all week. We just always wanted the two and a half and Hard Rock never got there. Always stayed the two. So, you know, this jets team is terrible. They are inconsistent, they are up and down, but they've won two games in a row at this point. And that's, you know, like we always say in the NFL, that's really hard to do. So we might have said this was a spot for them to steal it and win it, but, you know, as much crap we like to give Justin Fields, he did enough to win this game. And the defense shockingly got stops when he did too. It's just. I. I can't believe it because I. I was worried the jets were gonna roll over and die after they sold off all their defensive players and they didn't. They fought really hard in this game. And kudos to the Aaron Glenn keeping that unit unified.
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Chad Millman
Justin Fields did enough, is strong.
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Simon Hunter
He had 11 attempts.
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Chad Millman
Justin Fields was 6 of 11.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
For 54 yards. 42 of those yards came on a screen pass to Breece hall, who ran 42 yards for a touchdown. Justin. Justin Fields, like he. He had a couple of nice runs he made. You know, he didn't make the big mistakes. I don't know if he did just enough or he just stayed out of the way.
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Simon Hunter
Stay out of the way. Honestly, though, he had a couple big third downs for us. That. That's why we covered the storm. But there, it's their O.C. like, as much I want to blame Justin Fields, he basically almost said to him, you're not losing this game for us. I don't care if there's a guy wide open 10 yards downfield. Yeah, you're not throwing it downfield because the one time he did, he threw a pick. So it was a game where they just knew the Browns that have beat themselves and they got very lucky. Their special teams just dominated this matchup.
- [45:20]
Chad Millman
This was the beauty of that game. The jets went for it on fourth and four from midfield with a minute left. The Browns had no timeouts. So if they went for it and they. They got it, the game was over and they didn't have to worry about it because they Drew the Browns offsides and they got the first down. Go jets, go. Good for them. They managed it brilliantly. They got all, they got the Browns to make all the mistakes they needed to make. That Browns team is just dreadful. Can't wait to better them at plus eight and a half at home against Baltimore in week 11. Shame, shame, shame. Simon, I'm going to go with the Cardinals offensive line. Shame on you. Because when you've got an immobile veteran second string quarterback, the one thing you have to do is try to keep that immobile veteran second string quarterback upright or at least give him more than 0.7 seconds to get the ball out. And when you in the first drive of the game and then in the first drive of the second quarter allow the same guy to get pressure to create the same fumble and the same guy to scoop and score, that is an abject failure on the part of everybody from the interior offensive line to the offensive line coach to the offensive coordinator to the head coach to the quarterback. But mostly it's the offensive line. So shame, shame, shame on the Arizona Cardinals offensive line.
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Simon Hunter
I'm gonna shame Todd Bowles and that Bucks defense. I can't get over the scheme, the decisions he made in this matchup with Drake May. You should have beat him. And he even though they got a Turner rough him, they got the pick off him. He still was having an off day and they couldn't take advantage of it because they couldn't stop Henderson, a guy we talked about, a guy that was in the doghouse for this team. They let him average 10.5 yards per carry.
- [47:43]
Chad Millman
The Bucks crazy.
- [47:44]
Simon Hunter
A team that hadn't given up 100 yard rusher in like 30 straight games at one point. It's just I can't believe scheme wise they just let that go. They got beat by the run game. In a game once again the Drake May struggled. Mack Hollins had over 100 yard receiving against them. It just just an atrocious game plan by that Bucs defense on a day that you know as bad as up and down as Baker was still through for over 250 yards and three touchdowns like they should have been in this game. Shouldn't be able to win it especially in that bad weather. And the defense just could not get key stops. And it all comes down to that fourth down like you talked about before half. Shame on you Todd Bowles and that Bucks defense.
- [48:21]
Chad Millman
That's a good one. I wish I had thought of that one. That's a good one because Matt Collins getting open in the middle of field and having multiple third down conversions and Drake May finding miracle ways to spin out of Vita Vella's hands and then reset and hit Mack Hollins. But that's a failure of the secondary in their ability to cover and that's that goes to scheme. And we love Todd Bowles and we thought this would be a great coaching matchup and Mike Vrabel just beat him. He out coached him in every sense of the word. He's been doing it all season to everybody he's coached.
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Sharp or square. Hero of the week. You know who my hero is, Simon.
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Simon Hunter
Tell me.
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Chad Millman
Last week you graciously made me the hero because I chose Atlanta.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
I am making you one of the heroes of the week for getting us to choose the Miami Dolphins. Here's what I know. We've been doing the show long enough that when you start, like, talking about a game early in the week, like the Dolphins, and you keep bringing it up and keep bringing it up and like, you're not being adamant, but you're not walking away from it. And then all of a sudden you get closer to being adamant. I know enough to make that bet, so I made the bet and I know enough to put the game in the contest. So we put it in the contest. And that's because you did your thing and that was very impressive. The other guy who did his thing, who you said would do his thing was Devon A. Chan, who I mentioned earlier had 174 yards rushing, multiple big gains, multiple touchdowns. It looked like he was playing against a Pee Wee league team out there. They just could not tackle him. When they could catch him, they couldn't tackle him. When they couldn't tackle him, they couldn't catch him. It was. It was an impressive performance for sure.
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Simon Hunter
I can't believe I'm going to give it to him, but I have to already give him enough praise. But I keep got to go back to it. Just Stafford, hero of the week. I just can't get over what he did in this game. Like we should have backdoored that game in a million different ways and the guy just killed us. Wouldn't. Let's get back into it. 24 of 36, 280 yards, four touchdowns, no picks. Just. He's out of this world right now. Got to be. If we wake up tomorrow, he's got to be the favorite for mvp. It's just incredible what he's doing at his age. Staying upright, staying healthy. And yeah, as an Eagles fan, definitely my biggest fear right now is this Rams team. We talk coming to the year. Like I put them Eagles at the top just because of how well the Rams played last year and everything's improved. Their defense is tougher, their offense is just a machine right now. So my only hope is just like the Patriots, maybe they're peaking a little too early. So we'll see.
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Chad Millman
Coming down the stretch right Now, Drake May is plus 287 as MVP, Matthew Stafford plus plus 300. So we'll see in the morning. Like it could easily turn that way. It feels to me like everyone just wants it to be Drake May.
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Simon Hunter
It's the new toy. I'm about it. He deserves it. I agree with that, I guess.
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Chad Millman
But look, if the, if the Rams are the number one seed and Matthew Stafford leads the league in passing and leads the league in touchdown passes and he set a record today. He got set a personal record. Got to 400 career passing touchdowns. So good for him. Man, 37 years old, gray beard, freaking ballin'. Love it for him. He just looks like he's having so much fun. He's playing an entirely different game. They had a great Tom Brady who I think is actually getting better. Not getting better, he's just good. He had a great comment about when you're that old, the number of times you've seen every defensive coordinator, the number of times You've seen every matchup, the number of times you've seen every scheme, you have an answer for it every single time. There's nothing that is confusing for him. You never saw him get rattled today. It was amazing.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it's one of my heroes. Favorite saying from Bane. I was wondering what would break first, your body or your mind? And with him it's, it's all about the body. If his body doesn't break, you can't not break Stafford's mind. This man is seen it all. Like you said, he's got plays for days. When the plays don't work out, he always knows where the next guy is and who is open on the defensive scheme once he sees a play out. So yeah, if they can keep him upright, he stays healthy. This is gotta be the odds on favorite right now in the nfc. They're just so dominant right now.
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Chad Millman
This Rams team, very good team. Simon says was Denver -9 and a half. We've worked through that tragedy. Chad's choice was Tampa minus two and a half. Terrible brass balls was Arizona plus six and a half. Terrible rock and hard place was San Francisco plus six. Sharp versus square. I had San Francisco, I got it at four and a half. You had Miami plus nine and a half.
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Chad Millman
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
Did I ever tell you you're my hero. Our favorites parlay Panthers, Lions yes. Ravens yes. Bucks no. Bears yes. Underdog parlay. Jets, yes. Houston yes. San Francisco, no. I'll take it though. Yeah, totally, totally. All right. We talked. A lot of the questions tonight were about the Broncos. Again, we apologize we didn't manage that. Well, we will manage it better going forward. Early leans for you, Simon. A couple. A couple stood out to me already.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. We were so hot last week on these early liens. Let's see if we can keep it rolling, buddy.
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Chad Millman
Last week, well, remind people last week. Yeah, remind people what we did.
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Simon Hunter
We had Rams minus three, Ravens minus three, and somehow we had the Lions minus three. That was before, obviously Daniels got hurt in that game. I. I like the dogs. I'm not gonna lie to you, Chad. I like the dogs. This coming week and there's some really gross ones that just jump out instantly I'm gonna take. Which we start with commanders. They're plus two right now on the road against that Miami team.
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Chad Millman
Well, don't forget that game is Madrid.
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Simon Hunter
Okay. I'll still like the Canadians a little bit, but again, well, I've been very lucky. I've been bet like I bet Atlanta last week. Plus Six and a half. And somehow that hit. I got very lucky on that one even though I thought it was home. So yeah, I just. That one jumped out for a gross dog that people are going to hate. Jaguars are going to be plus one and a half right now at home against this Chargers team. We'll see how they perform tonight, this Chargers team. But I just, I feel like the Jacks front would actually give that Chargers team a lot of problems. I think you nailed it when you said Cleveland plus eight and a half.
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Chad Millman
I know.
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Simon Hunter
How can you not? And I know we're all bitter, very bitter to this Denver Bronco team. Denver Broncos plus four plus three and a half right now against the Chiefs at home.
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Chad Millman
Do you feel like the Cleveland number is going to move up? Because, I mean, I don't know how it doesn't. With Baltimore winning at Minnesota today and Cleveland losing to the jets. It just feels to me like that number is going to get bigger.
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Simon Hunter
It could, but that's, it's, it's going to be an amazing spot for this Cleveland team. So I mean it could be like Miami. I hope. Like I got a couple tens on Miami. That's how high that number got.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
You could be right here. This could get, this could push the tank is no. 1 only pros are going to be taking Cleveland here.
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Chad Millman
Totally.
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Simon Hunter
I keep saying, I know it's lazy, people hate it, but this Cleveland team is totally different and it keeps proven to be an out true on the road and at home. So that feels like a great spot. Great matchup for them. Just like it does with Denver. Yeah. Next week. These games are incredible. Like I, I don't want to give an opinion yet, but I kind of like Detroit against the Eagles. They're plus one and a half on the road against this Eagles team. I'm not rushing to take it because the Eagles play really well. I think we could get a two and a half three.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
Because again it's, it's golf on the road, outdoors playing against a really good defensive front. So that one intrigues me where it's like this right now is an Eagles number. But I could see us getting a two and a half three on this Lions team and I'd take a position on them.
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Chad Millman
Arizona, there are threes available. Arizona plus three at home against San Francisco. Obviously we're talking about blowout versus blowout. Ish. But I'm not afraid to back Arizona again. I think this was a.
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Simon Hunter
That's probably the right read. You know, I can't do it right now. Because I'm just so bitter. But that's probably the right read.
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Chad Millman
That was the to me, the big games unfortunately that stood out were Cleveland plus eight and a half and Arizona. If you can find the three, it's two and a half most places.
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Simon Hunter
But if you could find no, I like the Dogs. Honestly, I like the dogs this upcoming week. There's some some juicy numbers there.
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Chad Millman
So frustrating. So frustrating. All right, so reminder. We won with Baltimore minus three and a half and Miami plus nine and a half. We lost with the Bucs minus two and a half and with the Cardinals plus six and a half. We have the Eagles plus two and a half remaining. For tomorrow night. We are two and two. For the week. This has been Sharper Square presented by Hard Rock bet, part of the Volume Podcast Network. We will be back with Sharper Square on Tuesday to go over the entire NFL slate. Watch or listen on YouTube @Sharpersquare. Like the video? Subscribe to the channel. Download us from Spotify, Apple Pods, wherever you get your pods rate, review, subscribe. Leave us five stars. Save it if you want. Feedback is a gift. Until next time. Love you.
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