Sharp or Square - NFL WEEK 14 REACTIONS - Bengals-Bills, Steelers-Ravens, Rams-Cardinals, Saints-Bucs, Broncos-Raiders and more

Summary

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Sharp or Square – NFL Week 14 Reactions

Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: Chad Millman & Simon Hunter
Theme: Reactions and breakdowns of NFL Week 14, betting performances, biggest moments, and preview of Week 15 lines.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sharp or Square is a deep-dive reaction and betting recap of NFL Week 14's most notable matchups. Chad Millman and Simon Hunter dissect their decisions and results in the weekly contest, discuss lessons from major games, identify heroes and goats, and offer early leans for Week 15 lines. True to the show’s theme, they scrutinize how “sharp” (wiseguy) and “square” (public) bettors did, highlight critical trends, and keep the tone candid and self-effacing.

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Key Game Breakdowns & Reactions

1. Bears vs. Packers

• Bears lose after a strong showing from rookie Caleb:
  • Chad: “I want so much for Caleb... this was the best second half he's had as a Bear. He made brilliant throws, he made gutsy throws except for that last play which was devastating.” (03:51)
  • Simon: “Vegas strikes again. Six and a half line lands right on seven... doesn't matter how it gets there, it always gets there somehow.” (04:19)
  • Takeaway: Despite strong flashes from the Bears, the Packers' efficiency on key downs sealed the win. Both hosts highlight the Bears' grit but lament the missed opportunity and the cruel predictability of the lines.

2. Colts vs. Jaguars

• Jags dominate amidst injury drama:
  • Simon: “This Jags team, it's bizarro world. They just dominate this Colts team... doesn't matter if it's Minshew or Trevor Lawrence, they keep winning this matchup.” (06:29)
  • Chad: “Credit to Trevor Lawrence, credit to Liam Coen... this team has been different with Jacoby Myers.” (08:39)
  • Notable Sequence: Jonathan Taylor fumble leads to Travis Etienne touchdown. Jags roll early, game out of reach after Daniel Jones' injury.

3. Browns vs. Titans

• Cleveland's defense collapses, Titans bully their way to a win:
  • Simon (frustrated): “Your job is not to let me bet these damn Titans games... I'm banning us, legit. I'm gonna kill you if you let us play this Titans team again.” (11:07)
  • Chad: “It just cratered from there... even the Browns defense, which deserves a lot of the blame could not stop anything.” (13:18)
  • Stat: Shedor Sanders throws for 364 yards, Tony Pollard rushes for 164.
  • Lesson: Both hosts vow to avoid betting Titans games due to unpredictability.

4. Dolphins vs. Jets

• Miami cruises, Jets lost after Tyrod Taylor injury:
  • Simon: “Once Tyrod Taylor got knocked out, they bring in the backup, it's just totally dead. Miami... dominated.” (16:42)
  • Chad: “They were dropping passes everywhere... I took that one out of the multi view before it was over.” (18:11)
  • Moment: Isaiah Williams’ punt return TD for Jets is a rare highlight in a blowout.

5. Saints vs. Buccaneers

• Weather-impacted grind; Saints rise as underdogs:
  • Simon: “Just another game where it's hard to take much away for because of the weather... but anytime we need to make a play with his legs, Shuck made a play... that's what he gave us.” (19:56)
  • Trend Highlight: “This Saints team in division now 9–0 on the road as an underdog.” (21:42)
  • Chad: “Foreshadowing... he might be one of our heroes of the week.” (21:42)
  • Saints defense: Big stops in crucial moments, capitalizes on Baker Mayfield struggles.

6. Rams vs. Cardinals

• Comprehensive rout by the Rams:
  • Chad: “There was about five minutes where I was worried and then I wasn't worried anymore.” (24:37)
  • Simon: “It was just what we talked about, the perfect spot after a bad loss on the road. McVay owns the month of December.” (24:49)
  • Stat: Rams average 9.2 yards/play in the first half; Stafford finishes three TDs, pulled with 11 mins left.

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Wild Game of the Week

Bills vs. Bengals – The “Belushi-esque” Game

• Snow, chaos, wild swings
  • Chad: “There are games that are drunk, and then there are games that are drunk... that's what this game was.” (34:10)
  • Simon: “You nailed it with the Bengals — the number is probably too big... just keeps hitting every week. Bills team, honestly, the game went the way I thought it was.” (35:05)
  • Key Sequence (mid-4th quarter):
    • Bills down 28-18.
    • Josh Allen: 50-yard TD run. (37:47)
    • Next Bengals pass: Pick-six, Bills take the lead.
    • Next Bengals pass: Another pick, Bills score again going for it on 4th down.
    • Bengals rapidly answer with a TD in 50 seconds for the backdoor cover.
  • Chad: “Bengals cover... truly a miracle of a game, so much fun in the snow...” (39:23)
  • Simon: “Anytime you win a contest line when the two doesn’t hit, honestly the best...” (36:33)

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Other Key Discussions & Insights

Steelers vs. Ravens

• Steelers embody “Tomlin voodoo,” Ravens look lost:
  • Chad: “More like brass brains, Simon, because we got everything wrong about this one.” (39:50)
  • Simon: “Pittsburgh... You want to move on from Tomlin? I don’t know if that’s the move... all the voodoo Pittsburgh Tomlin voodoo... they are 7-6 on top of their division.” (43:23)
  • Context: Ravens' rumored locker room drama, Tomlin's job security debated, hosts regret fading the Steelers in this spot.

Packers Playoff Potential

• Chad: “For a team that is dominating in the most important stats... I trust the Rams, I trust the Seahawks a lot more than the Packers right now.” (48:34)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Jags/Colts:

  “This Jags team, it’s bizarro world. They just dominate this Colts team.” – Simon Hunter (06:29)

• On Titans Betting:

  “Your job is not to let me bet these damn Titans games… I’m banning us, legit.” – Simon Hunter (11:07)

• On Bills-Bengals Snow Bowl:

  “There are games that are drunk... then there are games that are drunk that also dipped into the alley... that's what this game was.” – Chad Millman (34:10)

• On Saints Trend:

  “That crazy trend... this Saints team in division now 9–0 on the road as an underdog.” – Simon Hunter (21:42)

• On Pittsburgh Fandom:

  “Pittsburgh fans, take a breath… this is what Tomlin does.” – Simon Hunter (43:23)

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“Shame On You / Hero” Segment (Timestamps: ~50:47–61:50)

Shame On You

• Simon blasts NFL Red Zone:

  “For something we’re paying for, they promised us one or two 30-second commercials… just shame, shame, shame on you Red Zone…” (50:57–52:19)

• Chad goes after Browns defense:

  “If you’re giving up 290 total yards in the game and 184 of those are on the ground… have some freakin’ pride, Cleveland Browns!” (55:55)

Hero of the Week

• Chad: Saints rookie QB Tyler Shough

  “He ran the ball 77 times for 55 yards, two TDs… he gave the Saints the upset moneyline win... you deserve your epsom salt bath tonight, old man.” (61:02)

• Simon: Vikings QB JJ McCarthy

  “Tons of respect for the kid… he’s become that type of meme… came out today and played within the system… he’s my hero of the week.” (61:50–63:59)

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Early Week 15 Lines & Leans (Timestamps: 65:26–70:33)

• Saints (+2.5 vs. Panthers):
  Both hosts consider this sneaky and want to be patient for public line movement.
• Bucs (-4.5 vs. Falcons):
  Simon: “Anything under 7, I’m going to hammer against this Atlanta team… they’re just so bad.” (66:45)
• Rams (-4.5 vs. Lions):
  Simon prefers Rams, expects public to jump on Detroit off Goff trends.
• Vikings (+6 vs. Cowboys):
  Simon leans Vikings, citing Dallas’s vulnerable D and KOC’s schemes.
• Packers (-2.5 vs. Broncos):
  Both see Green Bay as a better team but acknowledge a tricky spot.

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Other Segments & Memorable Notes

• Red Zone Commercials Mini-Rant:
  Simon details his frustration, shares that he even wrote a physical letter to the NFL’s office to complain. (53:33–55:19)

• Mike Tomlin's Value:
  Repeated consensus that firing Tomlin would be madness; Pittsburgh’s under-30 roster is a bigger issue than coaching. (45:53)

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Contest Recap & Record (71:37)

• Winning picks: Rams -9.5, Jags +2.5, Saints +8.5
• Losing picks: Browns -3.5, Jets +2.5
• Week: 3–2 to start new contest

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Final Takeaways

• The podcast was a blend of acute betting strategy, emotional fan/analyst reactions, and meta-angles (trends, public/sharp line movement, and how randomness always wins out).
• Major game stories were shaded through a betting lens, focusing on line movement, contest picks, and in-game swings.
• The hosts highlighted both their best calls (Saints, Rams) and “stupid” mistakes they vow not to repeat (Titans, fading Tomlin).
• Good-natured gripes about Red Zone and corporate over-commercialization rounded out the show.

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Useful Timestamps

• Intro & opening ritual: 03:10
• Game recaps begin: 04:19 (Bears-Packers)
• Jags-Colts: 06:29
• Browns-Titans pain: 10:57
• Dolphins-Jets: 15:05
• Saints-Bucs: 19:09
• Rams-Cardinals: 24:05
• Bills-Bengals snowfest: 34:10
• Steelers-Ravens / Tomlin talk: 39:50
• Packers discussion: 48:34
• Shame/Hero segment: 50:47
• Early Week 15 bets: 65:26

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The episode is essential for NFL bettors or fans who want to understand both the Xs and Os and the psychology behind sports wagering, all delivered in a tone that's both self-critical and entertaining.

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Supplies last welcome to sharper square presented by hard rock that we are part of of the volume podcast network this is the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention i am chad millman i am joined as always by my co host my colleague my companion my compadre my bff professional better simon hunter.

Hello simon.

[Simon Hunter]

Chad how we doing buddy dude that.

[Chad Millman]

Was you know we're talking about the bears game obviously.

They looked so good it looked like they were going to pull it out i'm a little bit devastated just because i want so much for this team i want so much for caleb i thought this was the best second half he's had as a bear he made brilliant throws he made gutsy throws except for that last play which was devastating yeah it hurts buddy.

[Simon Hunter]

But lucky for you you're in a line of business where you knew for about five days you were probably going to lose this game let alone by a touchdown so vegas strikes again six and a half line lands right on seven doesn't matter how it gets there it always gets there somehow so that was a crazy game i'm right there with you i thought the bears were going to win that game a different million different ways jordan love kept finding ways and yeah like you said it's it's tough it's a bad loss but caleb has his moments man he makes plays that yeah you're just like man this kid is an absolute stud so i know it's painful buddy but man what a crazy great game that was.

[Chad Millman]

I'M trying to parent right before we're going on the air i'm trying to parent i'm texting with my son who's like oh that one that one sucks and i'm like you know what i love the spirit and good lesson i'm like trying not to be like mother god damn it.

We move on our final five for the first week of our final nine week contest with hard rock bet that we got launched for today was jacksonville plus two and a half cleveland minus three and a half jets plus two and a half new orleans plus eight and a half and rams minus nine and a half so good for us three and two week to start the contest couple of gimmes in there that were never really in question our last ones out of the mix baltimore buffalo atlanta probably green bay you ready to get into it brother let's do it all right india jacksonville jacksonville plus two and a half look this game was going our way from the beginning jacksonville before daniel jones blew out his achilles looked like the better team they were playing better i thought trevor trevor lawrence was having his best game and like in the first quarter on their second td drive he had a brilliant sort of teardrop pass to brian thomas junior and then the one thing we've always gotten a trevor lawrence for is his touch around the end zone he throws these lasers instead of sort of finding a nice easy soft landing for the ball into his receiver's hands did that today with jacoby myers they were running away with it and.

[Simon Hunter]

Then daniel jones.

Yeah brutal brutal day if you're a colts fan just these last couple weeks i mean i guess since the trade deadline right since they went all in feels like everything was going wrong yeah so yeah i just like you said it was probably never going to be in doubt we we had history on our side it was just a crazy day too for trends if you fought a lot of the trends we gave out and faded us on that ravens game with the pittsburgh every i think every trend very basic hit came through and this was one of them this jags team it's bizarro world they just dominate this colts team doesn't matter if it's minshu or trevor lawrence they keep winning this matchup in this games and it's not like a close game right like you said they dominated where daniel jones if he was playing you saw he's just limited like his whole playing style is so limited where trevor lawrence the good days where he has it going he looks like a number one pick right running the ball well get outside the pocket off balance throws downfield right on target just had it all working the run game was really working too with etn so if you're a jags team this is a kind of a sleeper team where if they play like this in the playoffs we know they could be a good team right in this afc they can be a good team especially if they keep winning and they somehow get you know some type of home field advantage so if i was a jackson i'd be i'd be happy because most of us don't take you serious but you have real potential where if trevor lawrence is playing within this offense you see what he can do but i'm trying to react because they just have dominated this matchup and this was another one we talked about this colts team tons of money all week being the favorite and this jags the number just held them in as a dog all weekend like you said it was probably over within the first quarter and a half when staniel jones went down yeah.

[Chad Millman]

Then you know right after daniel jones goes down jonathan taylor fumbles the jags score on a twenty five yard run by travis etn they go up twenty one seven my only hope was that for the rest of the game trevor lawrence did not have to throw a pass.

And he all credit to trevor lawrence all credit to liam cohn this team has been different with jacoby myers they have been a significantly different team with someone who can run different routes that makes liam cohn more comfortable running these in routes that are so key to him running his offensive scheme and good on trevor lawrence he's been hitting him in tight windows and he did it today hit cam strange for a bunch or brian strange for a bunch of for a bunch of throws really good catches they move the ball downfield like they were just impressive but again we're not overreacting we're not crazy rain.

[Simon Hunter]

Ugly sloppy game yeah one one throw.

[Chad Millman]

Trevor lawrence had a horrible inaccurate throw immediately he looks down at his hand as if it was the rain's fault like my hand's wet that's why this ball didn't go exactly where i wanted it to go on a simple screen that i overthrew by seventy five yards.

[Simon Hunter]

I mean i think he only completed fifty five percent of his passes so it wasn't like he was incredible but yeah it was it was he made.

[Chad Millman]

The throws he had to make in the moments he had to make him he made them and fifty five percent in driving rainstorm we're going to get to the other game that was driving rainstorm that went our way tennessee a cleveland maybe we should only bet florida games in driving rainstorms from now on tennessee at cleveland cleveland was a three and a half point favorite we were kind of net like i can't say we were never in it the titans in the first quarter i think had one hundred and forty yards and until the browns hit a long screen from sanders to quinn sean judkins they had seventeen yards so the browns defense this is what we were betting on came out very very flat and yet somehow shedeur like made some decent throws got this team ahead they're up seventeen fourteen.

It was on the it was on a razor's edge this game either the titans were going to do something to backdoor it or the browns were like just so close to breaking it open i think if the browns score another touchdown it's over the titans aren't going to be able to get close to the number in this but it went the other way chad what the hell.

[Simon Hunter]

If you're so lucky this is the holiday season i'm so mad at you your job is not to let me bet these damn titan games and every.

[Chad Millman]

We tried dude we tried to talk ourselves out of it this morning i'm.

[Simon Hunter]

Begging you stop me from putting this in you you have the power now you're putting the pics in and luckily in our other contest the one we were holding on to i didn't let us put it in that one but for somehow in this one that i care more about now because our own contest you let me put it in it's ridiculous i told you i i i cannot get a read we can't get a read whatever i say the opposite will happen we'll get to the pittsburgh pittsburgh game but i'm i'm banning us legit i like i'm gonna kill you if you make if you let us play this titans team again but i i'm just like i when they drove the field like i got the announcer said like oh they haven't scored an opening drive touchdown all season and then they scored yeah and you're just like what do we why did we.

[Chad Millman]

Do this why did we do this.

[Simon Hunter]

Sanders he he has an insane day throws for three hundred and sixty four yards three touchdowns and we still lose this bet so just absolutely atrocious and hating myself every second watching that game that just once again bet a tennessee titans game and lost a ton of money just huge negative in every way for me being involved so yeah just i honestly i might not even talk about it and just mute my mic next week and let chad say whatever he wants about whatever titans game there.

[Chad Millman]

Is well here's the thing i think shador sanders threw his numbers in this game were insane but if you look at it compared to cam ward i think they basically had the same same number of completions he just had a couple of crazy crazy long throws the one to judkins there was a long one to jerry judy it was it was pretty nuts i think he also held the ball for an average of three hundred sixty four seconds on just about every time he dropped back including the play that kind of ended the game like he had a play hung the ball forever hung onto the ball forever almost was like standing still waiting for the rush to get to him and then just flung it flung it into triple coverage in the middle of the field the titans intercept it and the next play the next play is tony pollard running for what sixty five yards and a touchdown so.

You know that was before the end of the third and that went from seventeen fourteen browns to twenty one seventeen titans and then it just sort of cratered from there and it's just even the browns defense which which deserves a lot of the blame today all of it could not could not stop anything it was it was atrocious honestly atrocious once again.

[Simon Hunter]

Shador sanders threw for over three hundred and fifty yards in nfl game i know you could piece it any way you want that the fact that he did that we lost this bet is just blowing my mind and you just nailed it pollard he dominated this game tennessee bullied that cleveland team which was just the most shocking part of that whole game like cam ward comes in here throws fourteen of twenty eight passes and has one hundred twenty yards and we lose this bet i just again i can't get over when i look at the numbers it just doesn't make sense it makes no sense it does when you back away and you just realize cleveland's just a very bad team and you know it's it's late december bad teams just sometimes lay down and you saw if you just take it out a little bit like tennessee wanted a little more today they bullied them on that like i cannot believe pollard ran for one hundred sixty four yards so yeah hats off tennessee a team we truly cannot get right it's incredible.

[Chad Millman]

They really did bully him it was embarrassing and it was like a game where a team from the south coming into cleveland into the dog pound against that defense in winter weather should not have had a chance to win that game and they like they just they blew them off the field from the beginning of the game in the first quarter and it changed the entire outlook for this team another game that was pretty much dead from.

From the second it kicked off miami at the new york jets the jets plus two and a half the two teams that we were so sure of all week which seems to be a trend this year the teams that we're liking later are the teams that we end up winning with and the teams we're liking early end up being the ones that do us wrong unfortunately this was never neither of these team well cleveland almost was in contention for getting that the jets never were the dolphins easily moved down the field for a touchdown in their first drive easily moved down the field for a touchdown on their second drive so now they've got two touchdowns in less than seven minutes next series jets get picked off inside their own territory off of a bobbled dropped pass.

Dolphins score again they're down they're up twenty one nothing this is before the first quarter's over but then really before the first quarter is over the jets get a brilliant punt return from isaiah williams who by the way this is a beautiful story simon are you ready for some beauty in the ugliness you ready.

[Simon Hunter]

You'Re by the gus johnson moment isaiah.

[Chad Millman]

Williams who muffed a punt in the first game against the dolphins in week four got waived then came back on the practice squad returned a punt for a touchdown to make it twenty one seven the jets still never came close in this game because then tyrod taylor got knocked out brady cook did you watch any of it nope you didn't.

[Simon Hunter]

Watch a play of it i probably saw that opening touchdown you talked about out of the corner of my eye and i was just like well that's probably a dead bet because we talked about leading up to it felt like we were hitting on black one more time we probably shouldn't have we we just we kept hitting it on the roulette wheel and yeah it's you know it's a type of game where that jets team if i feel like if taylor was there there was a possibility of a comeback like you said once he got knocked out they're bringing the backup it's just totally dead and miami you know talking about bullying a team they ran for over two hundred thirty yards so dominated and that was without.

[Chad Millman]

Hn by the way yeah you got.

[Simon Hunter]

Banged up so just you know two here has not done anything it feels like for a couple weeks so i don't know this miami team like we've i talked about coming in this game they've been winning a lot of games which is pretty impressive just because we all thought they'd quit on this team and you know six and seven for this team is pretty shocking because they were and they basically have had a run where they lost to the ravens jet and then they beat buffalo washington the saints and the jets so buffalo is a tough win but the rest of those teams you know they're not great but still i mean you're talking about a team that was in dire straits and now they've won four straight pretty impressive coaching job down there so yeah there's tons of credit to the dolphins like we said we thought they're going to fall through here they won this one now they're on the road again heading to pittsburgh next week yeah.

[Chad Millman]

They were they were winning this one from the beginning all they had to do was hold on because once brady cook came in the jets offense could do nothing they they he fumbled one of his first snaps on a third and one they then had to punt he threw a pick when they were in the red zone easy pick into the dolphins end zone that killed a drive at the end of the half the dolphins were trying to do nothing like it's almost like they were continuing the playbook that they had against the saints the week before where the saints were able to get in the back door i kept hoping like maybe this is it you just need like one more play one more play and you can maybe squint and see it and they just couldn't get a play brady cook was terrible as to be expected nothing on him they were dropping passes everywhere it was just i took that one out of the multi view before it was over that's all i'm going to say because you know what i wanted to focus on.

The new orleans saints i told you this morning i took a little taste of the money line a little like burrito bowl taste in the money line of the new orleans saints at plus eight and a half against the tampa bay buccaneers this game kind of played out exactly the way their first one had in the first half remember in the first half we talked about this morning like the score was seven three in the first half of the first time they played and and the only reason the bucs had seven was because of an interception right in this game it was ten seven the only reason the bucks had seven was because of an interception and then the saints did you watch this.

[Simon Hunter]

Game of course it was my my sharper square bet is one of my favorite bets this week that's right that's.

[Chad Millman]

Right what did you think what did.

[Simon Hunter]

You think of this game just another game where it's hard to take much away for because of the weather but we we talk a little bit going into it how this kid shuck you know has some weaknesses but there are some strengths to his game and this game basically anytime we need to make a play with his legs chatty made a play with his legs for us so he was great you know we weren't banking on him having seven carries fifty five yards and two touchdowns but that's what he gave us and you know we knew it was gonna be bad weather we talked how this bucks defense is a little suspect i was really honestly shocked by how bad baker played i know again once again the weather was bad you know baker looking at his numbers here fourteen completions out of thirty attempts one hundred and twenty two yards that's insane how pedestrian that is and ugly ameka buka as incredible as he's been we talked about he's really cooled off these last six weeks and i think the show to steady has had one touchdown these last five games and you just think to yourself okay they're just offensively not clicking and in this game the saints gave him a couple opportunities to get back into it and couldn't capitalize right a couple times they went for no fourth down got stuffed in the run game two of those were crucial like midfield plays so yeah yeah great great bet on the saints team and we talked about that crazy trend the saints team in division now nine zero on the road as an underdog it's it's been a hell of a run for the same team just being continually undervalued in the market so yeah that we didn't expect the shuck game but we expect him to keep being a guy that i think the political underrate where he's not that bad for a rookie like you're looking at this rookie class you know as much as respect as we're giving a cam ward or shador sanders right now chuck has been on a really bad team playing really well for a couple weeks as well so he's kind of a sleeper guy i think for rookie of the year that if the we'll see how the end of the season here but i think he's been playing just the same high level as.

[Chad Millman]

Those guys has yeah he was he was amazing foreshadowing he might be one of our heroes of the week so i'll give more depth to his stats and sort of it was incredible pulling the curtain back a little bit because like you said it wasn't the prettiest game but what he did when he did it was when you saw that.

[Simon Hunter]

Rain coming down sideways i'm sure you're watching it was literally at one point they couldn't even show they were showing beautiful in the sideline he couldn't even keep his eyes up it was raining.

[Chad Millman]

So hard it's like it was it was it was brutal but look the bucs like you said they turned it over on downs three different times and they could not stop the saints on third down in the last last couple of drives so super impressive game by the saints whose defense played really really well obviously start even like in that second half when they really started to roll starting off with picking off baker two and a half minutes into the second half he just you know one of his receivers i think it was ted johnson just didn't finish the the pattern and was supposed to keep going and he stopped and baker threw it right to a saint defensive back and the saints scored on that drive and all of a sudden they're leading the game and they were in control for the rest of it so good for the saints and by the way good for kellen moore like this team has been competitive all season long they've been a tough out so you know i don't know if people were skeptical of kellen moore and him getting hired but he's done a pretty nice job i.

[Simon Hunter]

Talked about last week my favorite schedule left where the carolina panthers who are at the saints next week yep and they go bucks seahawks bucks i love when the schedule breaks that way for certain divisions and this is just the best like that there is a two and two three in one path there so it's really exciting if you're a panthers fan and just like we've been people that bet on them every year and they're for them to win the division i think it might finally come.

[Chad Millman]

Through chad we'll see but seven and six seven and six it's it's crazy it's phenomenal it's great they're playing each other twice in the next four weeks los angeles rams we were betting them early in the week when they were seven and a half point favorites against the cardinals it closed at nine and a half ten they actually got bet.

[Simon Hunter]

All the way down to like seven and a half before kick oh it.

[Chad Millman]

Didn'T have to see that okay so.

[Simon Hunter]

On a late professional money came on arizona they got smoked well that's too.

[Chad Millman]

Bad because we we decided last minute you know in a rare moment of clarity and common sense where we didn't let the numbers scare us off you had been you know hammering we got to take the rams in this spot all week that was before we even.

[Simon Hunter]

Knew all those injuries that we talked.

[Chad Millman]

About sunday morning and so even though it moved from seven and a half to nine and a half in the contest we hit the rams and there was about five minutes where i was worried and then i wasn't worried anymore.

[Simon Hunter]

You in the books i couldn't believe it like i'm in the book and the line moves a five and a half live after that touchdown opening drive by the cardinals it's like oh man i gotta go hit this window again i mean how are they gonna give me a five and a half on this rams line and you just saw that rams team it was just what we talked about the perfect spot after a bad loss on the road mcveigh owns the month of december just always gets his guys that gets them prepared and that was a very unique spot for them and we've talked this arizona team they they've been in a lot of dogfights when they play these juggernauts in their own division they've just gotten smoked these last three games so yeah it's probably one of the hardest divisions in all football and yeah arizona is going into total reboot mode so it's you know a type of team where you just got to burn it all down right like that defense has so many holes so many issues and watching that rams game today they just felt like they could have done whatever they wanted offensively anytime so it's it's wild like watching the rams watching the seahawks as an eagles fan it's just like how can we compete with these guys they just seem like they're on totally different levels right now in the nfc so really really impressive what the rams.

[Chad Millman]

Did today well the rams could do whatever they wanted to right in the first half they scored on all four of their drives yeah stafford ended the game with three touchdowns he was pulled with eleven minutes left at one point stafford was twelve for twelve in the first half they had one third down it was in the middle of a drive in which they scored a touchdown in the first half alone three hundred and thirty yards on thirty six plays averaging nine point two yards per play just in the first half it was it was like it was so extreme it was obnoxious in his last twenty games this is a crazy stat in his last twenty games matthew stafford has forty six touchdown passes how many how many interceptions do you think he has.

[Simon Hunter]

Six five yeah no he's been incredible that's insane and it's unique for them where they basically have detroit the seahawks these next two games which is like you know obviously really tough two playoff teams yeah yeah and then they get atlanta and arizona then the season so i'm interested to see what he's going to be like for mvp because to me obviously tim or drake bay they just been both in playing at a really high level all season so we'll see if drake make it keep it up because this is really going to be the treat test december and on the flip side i gave you all the stats mcveigh he just his teams get better in this month so you assume if you could still get them under minus two hundred stafford feels like a pretty safe bet at this point if he stays healthy he's just been.

[Chad Millman]

So oppressive there was a minute it was forty five ten i think arizona had just scored it was forty five seventeen and they bring in jimmy garoppolo.

[Simon Hunter]

And yeah there's like eleven minutes in.

[Chad Millman]

The fourth quarter eleven minutes in the fourth quarter and i think the first play it's a delay a game the second play it's an illegal shift and i'm like oh my god the cardinals are going to find a way to cover this game i was like i was doing the math in my head i'm like can they score three more touchdowns right now like you never know if they let jimmy throw it maybe there's a pick and all of a sudden this thing you know turns into a track meet for eleven minutes thank freaking god because my heart couldn't have taken it not with the bears game going on on the other side quick word from our friends at hard rock bet cause the games on the other side of this were truly insane today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor hard rock bet the holidays are here and the sports schedule is packed with tighter than santa's gift bag week fifteen football bowl games nba college hoops hockey the whole sports sleigh is loaded and on hard rock bet there's always something to unwrap and bet on new customers can sign up and bet dollar five on any game if it wins you'll find dollar one hundred fifty in bonus bets on top of your winning stuffed in your stocking now that's holiday magic not sure what to place your first bet on hard rock bet just launched a brand new for you page making it easier to find all your favorite teams players and leagues all in one place the hard rock bet sportsbook app is the only legal sportsbook anytime you're in the beautiful state of florida and it's also live in arizona ohio new jersey indiana tennessee virginia illinois colorado and michigan coming soon to more states too plus hard rock bet offers new promos daily so whenever you're listening just open the app and check out what you've got any day of the week download the hard rock bet app and make your first deposit payable in bonus bets not a cash offer offered by the seminole tribe of florida in florida offered by seminole hard rock digital llc and all other states must be twenty one or over and physically present in arizona colorado florida illinois indiana michigan new jersey ohio tennessee or virginia to play terms and conditions apply concerned about gambling in florida call eighteen thirty three play wise in indiana if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help call one eight oh nine with it gambling problem call one eight hundred gambler in arizona colorado illinois michigan new jersey ohio tennessee and virginia.

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[Chad Millman]

Right brother the next game cincinnati buffalo we were going back and forth on it all week it was five and a half six i don't think it ever touched six and a half but you know there was mostly wise guys on cincinnati our debate all week was how is either defense going to stop anybody in this game in the fourth quarter there were thirty four points scored there are games that are drunk and then there are games that are drunk that also dipped into the alley probably shot up some smack and maybe when they got back to the table at the wedding they did like seven lines of coke and and that's what this game was it was totally just completely belushi esque unhinged it was insane poor matt mitchell oh my god yeah you're.

[Simon Hunter]

Right poor matt mitchell he's the luckiest man the world having josh now as a quarterback but it's the best it's like you know there's always certain games where you just fall in love with football all over again and i just as soon as that game kicked off and you saw the snow there's just nothing like it i'm so glad their new stadium open roof it's just there's just something about buffalo in the elements and yeah we you were you nailed it with what you talked about with the bengals where the number is probably too big with joe burrow and we've given it out now i think it's now nineteen and three when joe burrow is a dog over three or greater so just a crazy stab maybe i just have to start blindly betting it because it just keeps hitting every week and you know this bills team honestly not to say the game went that way i thought it was but it did like i thought the bills would get down like they did against tampa and they would come back score and then get some fluky late touchdown to cover the number and you know joe bro didn't do what i thought he was gonna do which is this close go three and out oh my god like you didn't deserve it though if you had the bills where like we had we got really lucky we had bills in our another contest of four and a half yeah like when you win anytime you win a contest line when the the two doesn't hit the two pointer it's honestly the best it really is there's nothing more sickening when it goes against you when it does hit and the they missed a dew pointer it's the best but i i know people hate their coach the bills fans they're they're they're like most fans where they just hate their coach and him not kicking that field goal to put him up seven and going for the touchdown on fourth down i love it because people in the moment are like i don't like this call where it's like i think he gets it where it's like joe joe's not joe's not going down in this game he's going to come back and get a touchdown if he gets that ball back so that was a gutsy call on fourth down trusting your quarterback and he made an insane play where he's drifting back and you're never in doubt where it's like someone's going to get open whenever he drifts back like that josh allen always just finds someone wide open in the back of the end zone and he did and put him up two scores and just joe can only do so much and you know all the stats up there we've talked about it when joe flacco took over whatever happened between joe flacco and that o line it's carried over with burrow since he's been back they've been way better protecting the quarterback and you saw it today like even where he had a little bit of pressure he was never uncomfortable felt like joe burrow and played a great game but unfortunately for him he just ran into josh allen and you know josh just waits you out he waits for you to have those turnovers and those two really fluky back turnovers by joe burrow just cost him the game so pretty pretty insane game and both sides like i said i'm i'm happy to get there with the bills money line but anyone out there had the bengals number you deserve the COVID they're covering that entire game bills.

[Chad Millman]

Were down twenty eight eighteen midway through the fourth they had no business coming close to covering five and a half or six at all and then josh allen does what josh allen does fifty yard touchdown run untouched against the defense that we thought all right how are they going to stop the run they're probably not going to be able to turns out at the end they couldn't stop the run the next series just to give some details for people who didn't get a chance to see it to what simon was talking about the next series the bills are down twenty eight twenty five joe burrow first pass pick six so now the bills are up thirty two twenty eight next series next pass joe burrow throws another pick that's where the bills get down to the goal line and on fourth down instead of kicking the field goal to put them up seven and give them the COVID with time left they go for the touchdown they get it so now they're up thirty eight twenty eight i think right so no they're up.

[Simon Hunter]

They go they're up eleven they were.

[Chad Millman]

Up eleven they converted they converted to take a an eleven point lead there's three minutes left they had twenty one points in the span of about four game minutes joe burrow goes down the field for a touchdown he went back for it was four plays sixty six yards fifty seconds on the clock that's insane.

Absolutely insane yeah it was so the bengals cover the bengals cover that game truly a miracle of a game so much fun in the snow like you said it's.

It'S just a true football fans game like you could barely see joe burrow in the snow when they were doing close ups it was it was awesome pittsburgh at baltimore this was our brass balls.

More like brass bands brains simon because we got everything wrong about this one the steelers came out throwing nonstop aaron rodgers downfield to d to dk metcalf they were reborn in baltimore he was scrambling he had a rushing touchdown keeping drives alive he had two hundred and eighty four yards and a touchdown pass metcalf one hundred and forty eight yards receiving.

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What what.

[Chad Millman]

Is this ravens team going to do right now and one of the questions we have.

Let me make sure i'm getting the name right here from i think it's trx trx maybe it's tricks in the youtube comments right now.

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What.

[Chad Millman]

Does baltimore do going forward their defense isn't getting better like it did last year lamar doesn't look great he had some moments but this team just is not producing and now they're six and seven they might not make the playoffs they got probably got to win their division to make the playoffs they're the.

[Simon Hunter]

Dolphins.

Yeah this could be a sliding doors moment that isaiah likely is it a catch and a touchdown not a catch not a touchdown moment so true it will forever carry weight and that football is stupid it comes out of those moments but that's a total chain game changer where you know the amount of people that sent me stuff this week of basically this girl who was hooking up with a guy on the ravens has been putting out all this info from behind the scenes stuff like real stuff and it's been verified like she's been posting really interesting stuff but basically the whole team hates horrible and people are like well that's just some bitter x blah blah blah and it's like she's sending she's showing texts and she recorded stuff and it's like heading the whole next level ravens fans are going crazy where i think they already kind of wanted horrible out and now that they know that the players potentially hate him and there's like a semi mutiny in there it just adds to it but i just they're they're horrible defensively i mean how many stats do we give about aaron rodgers pushing the ball downfield today the man could not miss he was in full full beast mode and you know we got got i i'm just so embarrassed where it's like i blindly so upset with us yeah i blindly bet this dog in this matchup every year of my professional career and just rarely get take the losses it's just like well even if it does lose who cares that means next year it's a guaranteed hit and got sucked into it because lamar has been covering these big numbers their last two matchups and this totally went the other way all the voodoo pittsburgh tomlin voodoo what's what makes him so special again he's getting run out of town right now they are seven and six on top of their division yeah again i know eagles fans are the most insane fan base but pittsburgh fans take a breath you it's just this is what he does so i'm i'm so mad at ourselves i can't believe we gave up on him we got the.

[Chad Millman]

Best of us i'm so so disappointed in us that we talked ourselves out of this that we let ourselves be fooled by what we had seen that we didn't do what we always do that we didn't play this professionally we just didn't play it professionally that was the problem bad bad bad bad bad miss and like you know here's from joe connolly in the chat right now.

Mike tomlin is a good coach so maybe they can maybe he can go.

[Simon Hunter]

Coach the bills well like if he.

[Chad Millman]

Gets fired yeah like people people are always complaining about sean mcdermott i think.

[Simon Hunter]

It'S just again they're they're their organization they just don't fire people so i.

[Chad Millman]

Don'T want them to fire him we talked about this the other day i.

[Simon Hunter]

Know everyone.

It'S just i get where their fans are coming from they just want something different everyone wants a change in life but as someone that got rid of a hall of fame coach as an eagles fan and annie reed i get it like andy reid had to go and it worked out for both parties we've won two super bowls since he's won three or four so it worked out but at the back of my mind i'm just like tomlin pittsburgh you want to move on from tomlin i don't know if that's the move it's really you just need what you do need is him to get suspended for a year in like some type of spygate thing go three and whatever appreciate tomlin that appreciate him and also get the quarterback like you just like your guy mendoza i would love for him to have fallen to them at the end of the first maybe early second he's probably gonna be like a top three top five pick now because he's such a clutch high level player with a great body i mean i know that interview didn't do him too too great but still i love it i just think he's a he's a really gritty kid so i just pittsburgh they're a quarterback away once again but they might win the division somehow at eight and nine nine and eight it's just bizarro world i'm a little.

[Chad Millman]

Tired of the interviews with fernando mendoza i've watched all of them after every game he it's like they're that was.

[Simon Hunter]

My first one chad i was shocked i had not heard that kid speaker two i was very taken back they're.

[Chad Millman]

Too practiced and too it's almost like he's running for something and because he'll immediately stare into the camera he says the same thing every time i am not against people giving all glory to god give it to give it to whomever you want to give it to but it's a little bit too rehearsed.

[Simon Hunter]

For me and that was my problem his voice cracking and him being so excited i was just like oh my god i can't believe this is this killer clutch kid who like literally got murdered in this first place did get murdered yeah he's so tough and i could not believe again i not heard the kid speak i was just so taken back but obviously you're used to him being all rehearsed and saying the same thing over again but my god i was loving it i rewatched that interview like five times couldn't get enough.

[Chad Millman]

Flipping you watched that flipping interview four or five different times i was like.

[Simon Hunter]

Man i hope the jets draft this kid i love him i want to see how he handles new york media.

[Chad Millman]

That'S my quarterback for now for now.

Yeah they'd be crazy to fire mike tomlin how about you just get mike tomlin some players that are under thirty and maybe have more than one season rentals tied to their contracts and get them a real roster so you can actually compete in the afc which is so freaking competitive right now because they're getting passed and it's not because of their coach it's because of their roster.

[Simon Hunter]

Once again this man's about to win a division where the quarterbacks are lamar jackson and joe bro he's going to win with aaron rodgers potentially it just game wrap your head around it doesn't.

[Chad Millman]

Sound real chicago bears they were six and a half point dogs today and.

Man in the first half they had seventy one total yards and it was the lowest amount of yards for any ben jones ben johnson coached or coordinated team during his time as a coach and coordinator and then i was in the text chain with the boys and i said i feel like they're just beating down the defense they're just trying to get them tired get him feeling like it's going to be an exhausting matchup and in the second half that's exactly what they did like they were just running it down their throats they had that seventeen play eighty three yard drive eight and a half minutes they tie the game they forget how to tackle josh jacobs on a third down where they could have stopped them from getting the fourth down instead the packers score that touchdown why simon why did ben johnson not just call a running play when they've been running it down their throats except for that one time right before that why did caleb not just run for the first down why why why.

[Simon Hunter]

It'S easy easy to ask that after the fact but i just you got the coach man i just can't get over how good of a coach he is and this was the type of game where you guys should have got smoked it was looking that way like you said first half going exactly how honestly i thought it was going to go which is just you guys are a very fun story you've been punching above your weight for weeks now and i just cannot get over i was not caught up to you and once again this game you almost got away with it because it's just that run scheme is incredible and just wears teams out on the flip side the offense can never get into a rhythm because they're just sitting there but jordan love in these matchups it's amazing yeah he makes big time throws and like again somebody had money on him today it feels so good when you're on that side where it is he is cooking that way and you know josh jacobs is making insane plays and it's all hitting but i just i think we're all in agreement i just cannot trust this green bay team i don't know how i'm gonna bet on them come january there's just something off about this team there's something missing so.

[Chad Millman]

It'S so weird you say that it's bizarre it's so weird because they were throwing these stats up during the game you know green bay tops in third down conversion green bay tops in the red zone it was it was one other thing that green bay was number one in and i said to myself so why is this team not thirteen and oh why is this team so but i mean like why is this team so inconsistent why do i feel like for a team that is dominating in the most important stats oh and i think they had the fewest turnovers for the team that is dominating in the most important stats that for any other team it feels like when they are winning in those situations they are you know ten and two eleven and one it's clear jordan love would be the mvp in the nfl and they just don't feel like a team that puts it all together every single game every single time now they've got two good wins you know the last couple of weeks between the lions and the bears in the division but i agree with you like i trust the rams i trust the seahawks a lot more than i trust the packers right now.

[Simon Hunter]

Yeah which again that's not a bad that's not a bad company to be in they're definitely the third team that i've seen right now they've earned it like they're one in this division they're going to denver next week which again another great spot to find more out about jordan love and this offense against good defense on the road but they're just something a little off for it's just the wet they have such good receivers everyone was healthy today like they have such good weapons with jacobs back there but i don't know just something about this team where i'm just like something's a little off where like you said it feels like they should be more dominant and they're just not so another sleeper theme though that coming out of the nfc it's wide open could easily see the packers making that type of run we've seen jordan love have pledge success but it's a it's an interesting team where they it just feels something like they're off but huge huge win for them where you know the bears like you just said that pick at the end there i don't know we were joking but we were having a real discussion are they going to go for two here because we all felt like the bears were that playing that well caleb was having that big time of throws that they were going to score with whatever twenty seconds left but yeah it's big big time step up by the defense to get that turnover that has really saved green bay in a lot of games this year.

[Chad Millman]

Impressive impressive all right simon give me your shame on you shame on you.

[Simon Hunter]

Nfl red zone.

For something we're paying for they promised us maybe one to two thirty second commercials last week then bombarded us with commercials and if i wasn't so upset about the refs i was definitely going to say something and then i moved on my life i go you know what it won't be this bad this week they've heard from the fans even worse so there was some crazy static couldn't listen through red zone for the first fifty minutes of the game because he had some crazy you know whatever it was connection to the microphones and tons of feedback and then the commercials and i'm thinking to myself so we're paying for something that doesn't work right the one seventeen or eighteen weeks we need it to work right and they're more throwing more ads and again i'm not trying to crush scott here because it's it's my job to on these people behind mics but he just there was a couple of times where they cut to him and he seems totally lost and it's just what has happened to my product i remember the good old days where red zone was great and i'd have the volume on that and today again i don't watch tons of four box tv's when i get back to my place where we do the show i like to put it on there was other times where i just switch over to the games listen to broadcasters which is rare usually i listen to scott so it's just shame shame shame on you on red zone i just cannot get over how bad the product's been this.

[Chad Millman]

Season simon i think i told you early in the year i don't watch red zone anymore i do i'm jealous.

[Simon Hunter]

I can't kick it yet i'm still.

[Chad Millman]

Addicted yeah i do four box on my tv and then i'm on my laptop and there's usually five games that are of high leverage for us between the games that we have in the contest and that we've given out and games that we thought about doing that i want to keep an eye on and hope that they don't cover when we decided not to put them in and so i never have to worry about red zone anymore in the afternoon games like there's so few games you can just two box it like today i had the bears and the rams and i haven't watched a single minute of red zone this year i'm at.

[Simon Hunter]

The sports book so i have to unfortunately i have to have the red zone on in my ear so i basically will be watching it with plugged in so i can hear it in my one ear and have my other ear open to talk to people but i just needed to follow along because i just get lost like i get sometimes i forget i'm watching football because you get you started talking about whatever betting lines with people and you forget oh touchdown just got scored i need to track my bet so i i listen more than i watch it honestly but the i just i can't get over the ad stuff like as someone that like this whole paid surface stuff we've entered into we always know it's going to be it's more and more in their corporate advantage but my god please red zone give us just one or two commercials a week we're paying a lot for your your product and we only get eighteen weeks out of the year it's just it feels like.

[Chad Millman]

It'S too much it is amazing how quickly they went from no commercials to oh don't worry about it it'll be limited to apparently by your account i haven't watched a second to wow it's truly disruptive i hate it like again.

[Simon Hunter]

I don't want to go too hard because i know we work for a company that puts ads on our podcast it's the whole part of the business but the commercialization of everything it's just like the mlb jerseys having stuff on and everything it's literally i'm becoming that old man where i'm like you just.

[Chad Millman]

Keep yelling grandpa hate change just keep yelling at the commercials just keep doing.

[Simon Hunter]

I i do think the shame works though there was less commercials in my opinion this week on red zone because we just as a collective group like again rarely do i go on social stuff and go off on these companies i legit not only sent them an email i sent them a handwritten letter how upset i was come on yeah no joke i was like dude you guys this is ridiculous and i know just because i work the media handling readers handwritten letters actually still work people because no one sends mail anymore so that's a fun fact who did you send it to i have to check the address but they have scott hansen no i told you i'm right down the street from nfl that's right yeah yeah hand delivered you could just drop it off oh i'm a psychopath then.

[Chad Millman]

They'Re opening it they're like what's inside.

[Simon Hunter]

Well the funniest is like i pulled the way i pulled up i was like this woman it's definitely definitely and she did it she like walked up are you lost or like are you okay i was like i have a letter here for the nfl oh my.

[Chad Millman]

God the poor lady in mount laurel is just trying to do her job and let people in to go do nfl films and here's some psychopath walking up with a well i know the.

[Simon Hunter]

Guy who runs shop there so i just knew if i put his name on there it would get to him so i'm i'm trying something here that.

[Chad Millman]

Is classic south jersey right there.

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Shame.

[Chad Millman]

On you i'll go a more traditional route shame on you cleveland browns rushing defense because if you're giving up two hundred ninety total yards in the game and one hundred eighty four of those are on the ground and tony pollard gets one hundred sixty one yards including a sixty five yard rushing touchdown and you give up one hundred forty yards and fourteen points in the first quarter to the tennessee titans who are a rock bottom who've won one freaking game who this week like couldn't stop talking in the locker room about how miserable they were you're supposed to be an elite defense you've got the greatest defensive player of his generation who did get a sack today but come on come on cleveland browns have some freaking pride.

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[Chad Millman]

My hero of the week yeah give it to me tyler schuck we talked about him the boy was not pretty thirteen of twenty for one hundred and forty four yards but but in the second half he was six of nine he ran the ball as you noted seventy seven times for fifty five yards two touchdowns his first two rushing touchdowns of his career multiple third down conversions of those six completions to keep drives alive and he gave the saints the upset moneyline win forgot what they were something like plus three hundred sixty whatever it was glad go saints nice job tyler shock you deserve your epsom salt bath tonight old man.

[Simon Hunter]

I can't even give it to this guy but i got to give him props hero of the week shocking most shocking game in my opinion jj mccarthy is my hero of the week chad we were going.

[Chad Millman]

To get to that and simon says we were going to talk about washington.

[Simon Hunter]

So give it up i just tons of respect to the kid like you know you can't avoid all the stuff he is one of the most memed quarterbacks i can remember in such an early career and it's i don't know if you've seen the meme and basically he made this weird face when he talked about how he has an alter.

[Chad Millman]

Ego nine yeah nine i thought that.

[Simon Hunter]

Was so stupid and like there was a clip of him like like i don't even know it's like a stank face or whatever it is but basically anyone that stinks like like herz had laid an egg whatever that was last game they basically imposed hertz's face over the sky's body he's become that type of meme where he's just getting absolutely killed and it came out today and played within the system which we've talked about now where he's had good games like that detroit game the game they won he's had different games where when it's on script i get what i get what koc sees like he's good with his feet he has a good arm and you know today you know didn't have a ton of yards one hundred sixty three we threw three touchdowns like he was really impressive in the red zone using his tight ends and really playing sworn the offense like having the game in the read where he had a couple pressure in his face didn't panic back foot right to the guy in the end zone and you know just got to give props to the kid where i talked though they have to play him the rest of the year because you have to keep building on whatever this is and yeah go get a veteran in the summer so we know this isn't who he is right he's not a sixteen of twenty three and three touchdowns type of guy but there is something there that they can build upon where everything felt lost a week ago and think there's some crazy stuff they're like the first team since you know last thirty years to basically get shut out the week before and then shut another team out this upcoming week so you know pretty incredible they got embarrassed on the road they come home he comes off you know being a concussion list and really puts up a great game so yeah big win for the vikings thirty one nothing in the sense that a little bit of peace of mind heading into the off season if he continues to play this way jj mccarthy at least at least you have something to hope on rather than him just being an embarrassment so he's my hero of the.

[Chad Millman]

Week i'm impressed i'm impressed that you called that out i was wondering how we were going to address minnesota winning thirty one to nothing over washington washington was the simon says not a not a great week not a great week chad's choice was the new york jets plus two and a half brass balls was the ravens minus five and a half rock and a hard place we did go with new orleans and so good on us for finding the diamond in the rough this week sharp versus square i had the jags you had the saints a rare push for us.

Underdog parlay the jags the jets and washington i could not remember or find in my notes who our moneyline parlay was i feel like it was the rams minus five and a half i think it was seattle minus on everything.

[Simon Hunter]

Except we might either had cleveland in there or the ravens which oh right.

[Chad Millman]

It was seattle minus five and a half rams minus five and a half baltimore denver oh no kc in denver that's what it was oh nice so we got a shot we got a shot with kc even though i'd like the texans to at least cover that game.

Some exciting games next week to look at obviously the lions and the rams is one of them buffalo is playing new england interesting game.

I feel like well you want to start you got any leans here because i got some some early opinions yeah you can.

[Simon Hunter]

Fire away.

[Chad Millman]

Well i want to talk about that buffalo game like the bills are one and a half point favorites right now.

Which i don't love.

Because i kind of want to bet the.

[Simon Hunter]

Patriots yeah i'll i'll be patient see what the market does with that my my initial gut instinct is just to hammer the bills that's like i keep saying that the patriots are a good team but they're just totally overrated over inflated and you know it's a scary thing to get in front of because they are a legit contender but josh allen in december under a field goal against an inexperienced team in new england so to me it's this should be a josh allen spot but i'm with you i'm a little scared to bet against this patriots team shockingly so i'll be patient see where that number goes.

[Chad Millman]

What do you think of tampa bay as a five and a half point favorite at home against atlanta right now.

[Simon Hunter]

I love it but i don't get why the number is so short like it's the the pros just keep betting this atlanta team they can't attacking kirk cousins it's very bizarre so i thought this would be seven seven and a half like it's just falcons with shuck are no worse than this atlanta team with kirk cousins so and no drake london once again so i don't know it's i'll hit this number early but if drake london gets cleared maybe this drops down more and i'll take a large position but this is like one of the first lines i hit when i open i just anything under seven i'm gonna hammer against this atlantic team they're just so bad yeah i think.

[Chad Millman]

Without drake london they really can't function we saw it today it's why we were talking about do we want to take atlanta seven and a half you were on seattle i liked atlanta but only if they had drake london so that's why it was sort of a pass for us the wise guys phenomenally were all over atlanta this week they loved them they loved them this week all right so you hit the bucks.

[Simon Hunter]

Nothing crazy i just took a little.

[Chad Millman]

Position on them.

Washington on the road at the new york giants they're underdogs right now it can't be worse than what it was today it just can't.

[Simon Hunter]

That'S fair i mean once again it feels like that's a giants line so i'll probably think it was on the giants because it's just there's no way they let jen daniels play again i think he got he re injured so it's going to be mariota for sure which might be better for them because dinos didn't look that great anyway but right yeah it's interesting went to that game i just if i could avoid that game i'd probably be happy right now i asked a strong opinion on.

[Chad Millman]

It yet what do you have opinions.

[Simon Hunter]

On so just again like you just said really really early lines here and actually i'm seeing bucks now moving to minus four and a half so pretty pretty interesting the professionals love that falcons.

[Chad Millman]

Team they do.

[Simon Hunter]

I might be in a reaction chat but we can get the rams minus four and a half against detroit.

I just i once again i feel like detroit i know it's it's it's golf indoors as a dog he's he's covered this number of thumb but i just feel like these are totally totally different teams where there's just the rams are a class above and i'm interested what the the public does with this one because i think most people are going to see those golf stats about him as a dog and him covering as a dog indoors in this position so another number i'll be patient on because i think it might move to a a better spot for me but yeah that's that game and the saints like the saints were plus three a couple books are down to plus two and a half two and a half that's another one i'm gonna be patient on i just think the public will come in on that panther side and maybe i'll get a better number on the saints and yeah another game that just jumped out to me right away can't believe it but minnesota's plus six on the road against dallas.

[Chad Millman]

I was just gonna ask you about.

[Simon Hunter]

That one i hate it but i think i think i'm supposed to so i'll just i'll take the six in case the professionals bet it down to five and a half but talked about i just that that dallas defense is so suspect i know they'll get theirs offensively but i could see a koc scheming up and them getting them points for this viking side as well so i just i feel like that number's a little too big for the open.

[Chad Millman]

I was gonna mention new orleans that felt sneaky to me it felt a little bit trappy also i got hit off the three i know the other one that felt trappy to me before we get out of here there was another two and a half that i was looking at hold on it was right below that one oh green bay in denver green bay is a two and a half point favorite on the road against the broncos.

Early line i.

[Simon Hunter]

Would grab i guess denver i suppose but i'm probably gonna end up on green bay they're just they're just a better team like we already talked about i just there's something missing with them but they have so much talent across the board i love this matchup it's a great test so it's it's already down to one and a half at a couple books now green bay so if that flips and laflore becomes a dog you remember that yeah exactly so so let's just be patient take that position here but yeah if you want to grab the two and a half early i think denver's definitely the sharp.

[Chad Millman]

Side just breaking news from schefter on espn daniel jones undergoing surgery for a torn achilles so his season is done that is a bummer for the colts who gave us a good run this year not that the season's over for them but that was a bummer you know you know i don't want to ruin it for everybody all right this has been let's let's remind everybody what we had we had the rams minus nine and a half today that cashed we had the jags plus two and a half that cashed we had the.

New orleans saints plus eight and a half that cashed we lost with the cleveland browns minus three and a half in the new york jets plus two and a half three and a two three and two for our first week in the new contest that we're all playing together i can't wait to see who's in first this has been sharper square presented by hard rock bet part of the volume podcast network we will be back with our next sharper square tuesday to go over the entire nfl slate watch or listen on youtube at sharpersquare like the video subscribe to the channel download some spotify apple pods wherever you get your pods rate review subscribe leave us five stars say whatever you want feedback is a gift till next time love you together we can do.

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