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Sharp or Square - NFL WEEK 15 REACTION - Bills-Patriots, Packers-Broncos, Panthers-Saints, Lions-Rams, Chargers-Chiefs and more
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Chad Millman
Foreign. Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by Hard Rock Bat. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. This is the betting show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my bff, Professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon.
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Simon Hunter
Chad. What a day, dude.
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Chad Millman
Ups, downs, all around. We got major superstar injuries to report. Just about every game we didn't put in was a way that we should have gone. We're gonna get to it. Our final five, Kansas City minus four and a half. Buffalo minus one and a half. Rams minus five and a half. Packers minus two and a half. We got Minnesota plus five and a half tonight. Last one's out, Washington and New Orleans. Simon in the early windows, the favorites, all the big favorites, the huge favorites covered really easily, except for two, the Chiefs and the Giants, who were playing the Commanders. Wouldn't you know it, the Chiefs were the reason we didn't want to change any of our picks this morning. They were the pivot point for the entire roster today, unfortunately. We could have had the commanders in there, we could have had the Saints in there. Instead we're sitting here two and two. Crazy, crazy day.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, great games, but we can't help ourselves. We are the two and two team. So yeah, we need, we need the Vikings once again for another three and two weeks.
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Chad Millman
So, I mean, look, I'm not loving the chances that we had a choice of three teams that we wanted to put in and the two. We left out one outright and now we're like the odds of that happening or at least the third team covering, not, not feeling great going into that Vikings Cowboys game tonight. It was also such a weird day because in the first half it seemed like the Chiefs were the absolute right side and it seemed like the Bills were getting killed. And then it seemed like the Rams were the absolute wrong side and the packers were dominating. And in the second half, everything flipped. We're now 2 and 2. Let's start with that Chiefs Chargers game. So right before we came on air, the news broke that he has a torn acl, which is just a bummer. You never like to see the most dynamic, most interesting guy who's been sort of the most prominent player in the NFL for so many years go down with an injury. Obviously, we're not going to the timetable, when will he return? Those things usually take at least a year. So that's a total bummer to be thinking about how we're going to manage that for the next three weeks.
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Simon Hunter
Ding dong, the witch is dead. Off with his head.
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Chad Millman
Oh no.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
Come on.
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Simon Hunter
It's over. Chiefs fans. Oh my God. I was going to do shame on them. But I. I got it for someone else. But this is. Yes. Does it suck? We lost money. Yeah, terrible read. Whatever. There was 13 to three. We were feeling pretty good. And this is a choke artist of a Chief team. They just completely fell apart. Chargers outplayed them, especially in that second half and just giving up that touchdown before the half. I think it was 42 seconds left. It's just so uncertain.
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Chad Millman
Dude, 33 seconds left.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, just. I mean, I hate the Chief, so it's hard not to just want to dance on their graves and. Yeah, it's. It's over. It's over. You guys haven't drafted well either. Holy shit. It might be dark, dark days ahead for this Chiefs franchise. I love it. So yeah, the crazy like we've been talking every week, the pros, and we joined them this week, the pros have just been hitting this Chiefs team every week that number up every week. And they are broke officially. So I mean we got to run through just the schedule, how it turned. I mean the Washington, they won 28 to 7, then they lose to Buffalo, lose the Denver, beat the Colts, lose the Dallas, lose to Houston, now lose to the Chargers and they are out of the playoffs. Mahomes done for the season. Just total, total train wreck of the season. And yeah, it's, it's football, right. Where every year it's, it can totally flip and change. And they've had this incredible run where every year they went to the AFC championship game, they were spoiled rotten and now it just becomes crashing and burning. So horrible, horrible day for them as fans. You know, as a better horrible read by us. We got Herbert. I mean he, he played so well. Tons of credit burp to him. And that Chargers team, they, like we said, they're down 13, three, no panic. Got that touchdown before half. Got a field goal when they started the second half with the ball and you know, just outplayed the Chiefs. Like we said, the Chiefs got that 13 points and score another point the rest of the game. So gotta, gotta give a ton of respect to this Chargers team that, you know, a lot of people like us left them for dead. And the number, like you said, open three and a half got Better. Way up to six, six and a half by kickoff. Pretty insane, the outcome of this game.
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Chad Millman
Look, Herbert was not looking good in Those first, say, 29 minutes and 27 seconds. They're down 13 3. He had been getting pressured like crazy. He had thrown a pick because he was blitzed and pressured and getting hit and nonstop. And the Chargers were not doing anything at all on offense. They had a great run back. On the kickoff, Herbert threw a perfect over the shoulder, Eli Manning to Mario Manningham, catching the super bowl pass to one of his receivers, who made an amazing diving catch. And then he threw this pass into the back of the end zone to end the first half and get them that touchdown. After that very next series start, the second half, they go all the way down the field. The Chiefs all of a sudden couldn't tackle, couldn't beat their offensive line off the snap. Chris Jones had a terrible play where he got called for a offside, aligning up in the neutral zone on a third down or fourth down call. So they just, they, they, they just, they lost it. Like, they deconstructed. They imploded is the word I'm looking for. They couldn't tackle anymore. And then all of a sudden, all the offensive line issues that we thought were going to be an issue for the Chargers became the Chiefs. And then that's what happened with Patrick Mahomes. In the second half alone, while the Chargers were scoring that field goal and then another field goal to go ahead at 16:13, the Chiefs went punt, punt, interception, interception, including an interception by Mahomes when they were in the red zone on the one yard line of the Charger. So that was indicative of the whole season for the Chiefs. So even if they won today, it wasn't looking good, and now it just looks bleak.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, no, there's not much to add to that other than just what you just said. It's a day your defense gives up only 16 points. You expect more from Mahomes, who had 13 midway through the second quarter. And they just, they completely laid down and did not show up in that second half. So.
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Chad Millman
But that was also that. That was also. Look, they had multiple drives in the Charger side of the field and in the red zone where they got field goals instead of touchdowns. So you can't do that and, and consistently win. And that's what happened, by the way. Packers, same thing. We're going to talk about them in a minute. Same thing happened to them early in the game, and it came back to bite them. But we're not there Yet. We're not there yet, Simon, because first we're going to talk about the Buffalo Bills, who were one and a half point favorites on the road at the New England Patriots. After we were done with the show this morning, we're signing off. We're wishing each other good luck for all of our teams. The Bears against the Browns and the Eagles against the Raiders. And of course, everybody's rooting for the Bills. And Matt Mitchell comes on as we're, as we're saying goodbye. Matt Mitchell, if you're there, tell everybody. Sort of the mantra you told yourself in case the Bills lost today.
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Matt Mitchell
I let you guys know that I was telling myself I was not going to let a regular season Buffalo Bills game ruin my entire lovely Sunday with my family, because I was, I was kind of coaching myself into a positive outcome. The Bills win. Or I'll just say, hey, you know what? It's just a football game. And luckily I did let it dictate the rest of my day because I had absolutely electric Sunday afternoon full of awarding my children prizes and treats and anything their hearts desired. I had an absolutely great day.
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Chad Millman
You had a very specific time. You're like, if the Bills lose, it's going to be 3:20 in the afternoon. I've got a whole day. I can't, I can't let it ruin it. And then you sent the most adorable picture of your daughter. Tell everyone what, what that scenario was, because it's adorable.
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Matt Mitchell
Felt like negative 15 outside in Milwaukee. So we were stuck inside all day and my. The bills go down 21. Nothing. Dad's in a pretty sour grinchy mood. And I said, kids, if the Bills come back and win this game, I'll get you. You can do anything you want. Just let me know. Bills come back and win. I asked my daughter what she wanted my 5 year old did. She really sat down and really thought about it. And she goes, I want to eat a cookie in a bubble bath. I was like, hell yeah, girl. She got the biggest, deepest, bubbliest bath and ate the biggest, chocolateiest cookie like an aging Midwestern divorcee. And I'm really proud of her. She really had a. She had a great afternoon too.
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Chad Millman
Let's hear it for Maxine Mitchell.
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Matt Mitchell
Last thing that's thing that.
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Chad Millman
Get out of here.
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Matt Mitchell
Friend of the show. 19th century Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Matt Mitchell
Reminds us that we can only fully experience the thrill of being alive through suffering. And I feel like that game was a great encapsulation of that. It was only through the suffering that the victory became truly joyful. So, anyway, have a great holiday season, everybody.
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Chad Millman
Go Bills AUTHOR of the Gambler we are the most literate sports betting podcast in America. You know what's interesting, Simon? In the beginning of this game, there was a play early in the game. Kean Booty caught a pass over the shoulder. It looked like it could have been called incomplete. They didn't do a quick review. The Bills didn't challenge. The Patriots got up on the ball, snapped it. They eventually scored a touchdown. In that drive. The very next series, there's a clear juggling act going on. It goes against the Bills and it's an immediate review from the officials who overturn it. And like that, to me, set the tone for the entire first half because it was ugly, truly ugly. Drake May was bacon.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. I was cursing Sean McDermott's name. I was just like, this guy is literally what, man? Mitchell says he's a corpse on the sidelines sometimes. How do you not throw a flag on that? That's such a momentum shifting play moment. In the moment I thought the ball hit the ground, let alone I didn't think he had full control on it. So very bizarre. And I'm with you. I. Not that I was panicking, but it was just like, okay, this is the complete opposite of the way I thought this game was going to start in the sense that Drake May was up 14 nothing. And Josh and I think at that point had two or three straight three and outs.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
So we were, we were living in hell. But, you know, they got down 21 nothing. They showed Josh on the sideline. I go, this is the exact moment we're all always supposed to bet Josh Allen live. This is just the, the moments you get where you can take a position on them and you know he's getting the ball. In the second half, if you can just get a touchdown, maybe a field goal, we're not totally dead in this game. And you know, Drake May, like the Patriots fans been saying non stop crazy how good the kid is. Like his throws, how complex he was to start that game. He was totally in rhythm. But you saw in the second half, the Bills, their playing style, they just never let him on the field when they play that way. And he can never get in rhythm. He's now been sitting, because at halftime for like an hour, hour and a half, never really could get anything going. You saw that. They looked totally dysfunctional the second half. I think their biggest plays were running plays in that second half, which is what kept them in the game.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, henderson had that 65 yard touchdown. You know, as soon as the Bills went ahead, he came back and got that touchdown.
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Simon Hunter
So, yeah, we're, we're in a unique spot. We're down 21, seven and a half and basically.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, no, I think we were down 247 at half.
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Simon Hunter
No, no, they, they got that field goal though, the second half. I know you're talking about. But yeah, they. Okay, but we just had an insane run where Josh Allen basically got two touchdowns and two touchdowns again. So two touchdowns the third quarter, two in the fourth. And you know him and Cook, we've talked about that running game. I think the announcer talked about they had the drive where they didn't pass the entire drive. They basically just ran it the whole way down. I think Josh had a little throw at the end zone to one of the tight ends. And it's just, you know, why we bet them. We really, they're. The logic made sense. I got why people. That was our rock and hard place, Betty, because it's like we made sense why people were all over this Patriots team. We get it. This Bills team does have major weaknesses, but the Josh Allen factor is just like, are you really going to go against Josh Allen? The spot? Like, is this really going to be Drake May's moment? And it was looking that way for that first half where it's like, okay, mvp, all of it. This kid's living up to the moment, all the hype. And we got lucky. Just that plain style. The Bills, they wear you out and that's what they did in this game. So, yeah, for the Patriots, still wouldn't be that worried if I was a fan. It's like you're going to lie to yourself and maybe think to yourself, okay, we've given our best shot to our best, best opponent. We can still destiny, still control our own division, still can get the one seed if that's a possibility, if Denver doesn't win, win out. So I don't know Patriots fans, a lot to be looking forward to, but the Bills fans, man, what a win. That's an all timer. Come back and win with Josh Allen.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, the, the discrepancy is first half to second half. When I, when I started to feel okay, they flashed a graphic on the screen in the first half that said Patriots have outscored their opponents by 75 points in the first half, most in the NFL. Bills have outscored their opponents by 95 points in the second. Second half, most in the NFL. I'm like, oh, yeah, we got a Shot. We got a shot. And then the Bill scored on five straight possessions. It wasn't like they had to. They just kept stopping the Patriots in the second half and kept scoring touchdown after touchdown after touchdown. It was really impressive. In the second half, they outgained the Patriots by, I think, 2, 150 yards. And in the first half, they were outgained by 150 yards, minus 2 passing.
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Simon Hunter
Yards in the first quarter. Yeah, it was disaster.
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Chad Millman
It was stunning.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
Listen, we love Josh Allen. We're so happy for him. We're thrilled for him and his bride. They're expecting.
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Simon Hunter
Kryptonite's gone, too. He doesn't have to worry about the big bad wolf, the Chiefs. It's like if you're. If you're the Bills, who cares if you're the seventh seed or the six seed? Like, it doesn't matter. You have Josh Allen, so.
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Chad Millman
Right.
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Simon Hunter
It's. Man, it's got to be. It's got. This has to be the year. Come on.
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Chad Millman
They did get some calls. Like all the stuff that went against the first half. Like There was a third and two inside the Pats territory. They were down 24, 21. Josh Allen flings a deep and Shakir and the Pats DB try to catch it. It seems like the Pats DB intercepts it, but they call it a catch and they call a PI. And then Allen scored a touchdown. It gets called back later in the drive. The very next play, it's like third and goal from the 15 because of the penalty. And he fires it. Just a bullet to Dawson Knox. Amazing.
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Simon Hunter
The ref, I think they had a fourth at fourth and fourth, too, that they didn't get. And the refs gave him a first.
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Chad Millman
On, so it was definitely called against Keon Coleman.
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Simon Hunter
We said every game, though, the refs make huge calls that dictate some of these games.
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Chad Millman
It's getting kind of ridiculous. And you know what? Every single one of those.
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Simon Hunter
We ran too much with the refs about it.
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Chad Millman
Yeah. But I. I will just say this. Every single one of those plays, I thought to myself, if they did an instant review, this wouldn't be an issue. That like so many of those calls would have been overturned and it wouldn't have been an issue. Just do the instant review for everything. Just do it. You got the tech. Just do it. Detroit at the Los Angeles Rams. We had the Rams five and a half, I gotta tell you. Matthew Stafford throws a pick directly to Aiden Hutchinson, who runs it back inside the 20. Very nice play. Lions score a touchdown after that. I still wasn't worried because we've seen this so many times, you know, over the years. Like one bad play and then all of a sudden the Rams went on a freaking roll and the Lions could not stop them. And then in the final five minutes of the first half, the Rams couldn't stop the Lions anymore. And all of a sudden they're up by 10. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? But things did settle down for us.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it's. I, I thought it was gonna be a battle. Did not see Goff having that first half, which is just like Drake may. Like they're both these guys came out absolutely firing and then just kind of didn't, didn't adjust to the second half like the other teams did. So it kind of mirrored a little bit with the Buffalo Bills, the Rams, whatever adjustments they made, they totally neutralized this Detroit offense in the second half. Like we talked about it, Golf had three touchdowns. I think he had over 200 yards passing in that first half. He was just killing them. And I thought we were dead, to be honest.
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Chad Millman
Chad and Amanra, I, I actually never worried about it because it seemed like the Lions could not stop the Rams. And we even saw like there were just a couple times in the first half where Stafford was just a little bit off. And we've seen Stafford just like miss by inches. And he got them down the field, got them to kick the field goal, got them down the field to start the next, got them to kick the field goal. And then it was a quick succession of plays where they stopped the Lions. They scored a touchdown. They stopped the Lions, they scored a touchdown. And then all of a sudden I felt really good about where we were. I mean, Iman, Russ St. Brown went off in the first half, could not cover. The guy had like 160 yards receiving on 11 catches. But then Puka was unguardable in the second half. Ended up the game with a career high 181 catches on 9 yards. He was averaging 20 yards of catch. It was. This Rams team is impressive when they, when they're at full throttle because the running game was great too. Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
And you saw even, even their defense, as bad as they were in the first half, they're so much healthier than Detroit and really showed in that second half where guys, they're subbing in and taking out really wasn't that much of a drop off. Or Detroit, it was noticeable. Right. They're trying to switch guys in and out, especially on the defensive front. They're just getting to approach her on Stafford and you know, the difference in this game, which I talked about before, was just going to be what, what the Rams are gonna be able to do against the run. Right. If they could stop the run, they'll flip side. If the Rams could run the ball, feel like either team, whatever could control the game, the clock and the defense, defensive fronts, that's who's gonna win this game. And that's what end up happening this, you know, rare opportunity with Gibbs. 13 carries, 38 yards. You just don't really see that with Gibbs. He usually dominates these type of matchups. And on the flip side, it was crazy how good this Rams team was. They ran for 159 and they kind of dominated rushing the ball. So yeah, no, Stafford throws for over 350. You rush for 150. You know, feels like we should have won by more honestly Chad. So we'll take it. This is. Chad knows I kind of played my hand a little bit. He learned to read me. This was going to be one of my bigger bets this week and not going to lie stressing about it all week because it's, it's never fun taking these type of big spreads which against a very capable offense. That's just why again, I didn't think we were dead, but it was just like my God, this was my worst nightmare start for golf. He was just cruise control lighting up the zone defense. They were trying to run the Rams. But like I said, the second half adjustments just so impressive. Every year, whatever McVeigh does offensively, defensively, the adjustments they make, it's just incredible. And they outplayed him in the second half. So yeah, this Rams team, you know, this was a day it felt like the. The haves and have nots really showed up.
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Chad Millman
Yes.
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Simon Hunter
And you saw like the teams are legit playoff team, super bowl contenders. Teams that needed to win show up big. A lot of them did today. So you know, this Rams team, thank God we backed them because it was getting a little hairy there to start.
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Chad Millman
The two teams combined for north of 500 yards in the first half. It was the most yardage in the first half total by any team by two combined teams this year in the second half, the Rams ended up with 519 total yards. The Pat the Lions only had 396. So that shows you how much more aggressive and how much more the Rams were able to move the ball in the second half. Like they just widened the gap again and again and again. Really, really impressive win for them. Overall against a team that, that did not want to give in. Another team that had super bowl aspirations that honestly felt like they should have crushed in this game. But we got Bo next, buddy. Green Bay minus two and a half at Denver. Green Bay forces a fumble on the first drive, kicks a field goal. Second drive, starts inside the five yard line, ends in a field goal. That to me was sort of the difference in the game. Like you need to be scoring touchdowns against a team that is going to be as aggressive and continues to go for it all the time as the Broncos. And if Bo Nix is on 14 freaking touchdowns, you're in big trouble. And he was on one today, which we did not expect. We actually, not only didn't we not expect it, we expected the worst. Bo Nicks, which is why we were betting on the Packers.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. And he looked like the veteran. He totally outplayed Jordan Love and he did. You nailed it. Green Bay settling for four field goals. It just, just killed us. They just, there's. They're supposed to be the number one team in the red zone offensively. They, they kind of went up against the defenses. One of the number one defenses in the red zone. Stopping team. So you know, they gave it all the stats. Green Bay also the best third down team. Denver one of the best defensive third down teams. So you know, Denver gave a lot of points. 26. But they did, they never broke. They bent, but they never broke. So a game where, you know, Jordan Love is playing pretty well overall, but it really was a Josh Jacobs game. Like he had an incredible run, incredible catch for a touchdown. He was just really dominating. They kind of took him away, put the game onto Jordan Love. Watson gets knocked down. It's just they couldn't recover offensively. They just were not moving the ball passing. And he threw two picks. One wasn't really his fault, the other one really was. And you know, anytime we bet against Bo Nixon, he throws for 300 yards and four touchdowns. You mean we can no longer say that packers are a good defense. So I mean it's, it was bad. And you know, we, we talked about the line. We were got the two and a half. I think we're going to be dead anyway. Chad, There was a number, a weird number there where it's like this is probably going to land on one and a half for this Green Bay team if they are even going to cover. But they threw that pick, another turnover and they went down. Bo Nixon scored again and it was just, I think they lost by eight. So yeah, bad bet. And you know it's, it's tough to get her in this packers team now they are without potentially Watson. They might have lost Micah Parson for the rest of the year and it's.
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Chad Millman
Just ESPN headline right now. Sources PAC believes Micah Parsons has a torn acl.
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Simon Hunter
So again you don't want to say the super bowl windows closed but you're already a suspect defense and you've just lost an all pro first ballot all pro. So it's I don't know Green Bay, it's, it's tough to see if I, I still think they can get wild card but it feels like now Lions and Bears might be in the position out to win this division. So really brutal loss for the Bear for the Screen Bay team. Not just you know, obviously losing this game but losing Parsons to that type of injury. Just can't get my swords.
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Chad Millman
The top three headlines on ESPN.com right now. Mahomes Teres ACL Parsons believed to have torn ACL Devonte Adams exits with hamstring injury and then Joe Burrow explaining that his comments this week were not directed towards Cincinnati. So a lot of bad news for the biggest and brightest names and the teams that everybody counts on year after year after year to be the marquee matchups. Changing of the guard happening. Broncos running away with the AFC West Even though Drake May didn't win today, he definitely was competitive in that game and the Patriots were competitive in that game. Probably a learning experience for the young team like the Bears avoided the trap against the Browns and now they get the packers at home next week. We're going to talk about that in a second. Exciting, exciting day for a lot of the upstarts. We're two and two on the day. We got the Minnesota Vikings coming up tonight, God help us because the other two teams we loved, covered and won. So the odds are not looking good for us right now. Let's take a listen to a word from our friends at Hard Rock bet. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet. You want to know where I bet on sports during the holiday season? It's Hard Rock bet. Not just because it's the presenting sponsor of our show, but because they make it easy to bet on my favorite teams, players and leagues in just a few simple taps, especially with their brand new for your page that recommends picks based on my favorite picks and who I like to bet on. I open the app, go to my for your page, find a bet I like and then bam. My bet is placed just in time for me to get back to wrapping presents and enjoying my favorite holiday movie. Sign up today and bet $5 on any game. If it wins, you also score $150 in bonus a winning bet plus an extra hundred and fifty dollars to bet with. Now that's spreading holiday cheer plus Hard Rock bet fills your stockings with new promos daily, so whenever you're listening, just open the app and check out what you've got. Any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit today. Payable in bonus bets. Not a cash offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida Florida in Florida offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital LLC and all other states must be 21 or over and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia. To play, terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1833 playwise in Indiana. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9 with it gambling problem call 1-800- gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee and Virginia.
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Chad Millman
All right, brother. The games we left out. Carolina at New Orleans late game. Saints win it in the last second with a long field goal after a crazy dramatic. They got like 12 seconds left. Tyler Shuck runs a quarterback draw to get them into field goal range and draws a roughing the personal foul because he's hit while he's on the ground. So now they're in field goal range, he leaves the game. They win the game because Tyler Shuck had let him down the field with a game tie and touchdown with like a minute 50 left. I thought at that point Simon, I thought it was Bryce Young time. They, they flashed a graphic on the screen. Since 2023, Bryce Young has 11 game winning drives in fourth quarter in ot most in the NFL. I'm like, at least I got the three. I did not expect the Saints to win that game.
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Simon Hunter
And that was your first mistake because they were a favorite. Bryce Young is a favorite. I feel like we have to. Just until it's broken, until he wins, like three in a row. I feel like you just have to keep blindly betting it, which I don't want to say. I just blindly bet this one. It really was just about the number in this matchup, and I felt like it's a true test for this Panthers team where the pressure, how can you not feel it, right? You watch, they're all together. There's no doubt in my mind they were all together. They're a close team. They watched that Tampa game. They had three days to think about it leading to this game. And they came out and played pretty well. Like, offensively, they moved the ball pretty well. Saints looked pretty lost. They just never put them away. They could never be consistent offensively.
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Chad Millman
And they were up 10. 10 in the fourth.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, yeah, 10 in the fourth, you're right. And, you know, the Saints, you know, this shock thing, I talked a little bit about it coming into it, where it's like there's an avenue for it. He just shows up big in these moments and, you know, 24 of 32, 272 yards of touchdown passing. He led the team in rushing, eight carries for 32 yards. It's. It's crazy how good this kid is. Like, if he was the number two, number three pick, we'd all be going crazy right now because this team, this kid's totally flipped this team around here down at the end, so. Really, really impressive win by the Saints. I, I honestly, I never. Not that I didn't think we're gonna cover the two and a half, but like you said, it's. When they didn't go for the two and Bryson got the ball back, it's like, okay, Bryce will probably drive the field here and get the three, but Saints defense really showed up in that second half. And you know, this is always tough for these divisional games. And, you know, Bryce Young gets that seven in the third corner and doesn't score another point the rest of the game, while, you know, Shuck scores 13 in that third and fourth quarter. So really impressive comeback win by the Saints.
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Chad Millman
Don't look now, but the New Orleans Saints are 4 1/2 point home favorites next week against the New York Jets.
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Simon Hunter
Well, again, I'll update it. I'll see what his odds are, but I think he might be down to 50 to 1, be a offensive rookie of the year, so we'll throw a penny on that 201. It's a, it's a fun bet.
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Chad Millman
Look Good for Kellen Moore. I continue like, yeah, by the way, good for Kellen Moore. Good for Dave Canales. Both of them good young coaches, good play callers. They're building a culture of winning with teams that in the most recent past have been losers and kind of directionless. And they've got these teams moving in a direction that sort of buoys them and gives them spirit and gives them hope for the next year. It's, it's exciting to see. And look, the Panthers are still in it. The Panthers play the Bucks next week. They're hosting the Bucks next week.
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Matt Mitchell
So.
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Chad Millman
And they are, by the way, just getting people primed here. Carolina is a 1 1/2 point home dog against the Tampa Bay Bucks. Well, you know what we're going to do there. Yeah, I don't even think we have to question it. The other game, Washington plus two and a half, the New York Giants. Shame on us. Like we talked about it, we started talking about it early in the week, whether it was Jaden Daniels or Marcus Mariota. We got more excited about it when it was Mariota. We talked about it this morning and stupidly decided we didn't want to open up our picks because we didn't want to lose the number on the, on the Chiefs. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, again, it's tough. Like, I like them all week. I, I liked our favorites we had in today, but I did give you the option. I said if there is, if there's a game you want to switch out, we can do it. I really didn't have a game where I was like, no, we have to switch out this team. But like we always say, it's the hindsight. We knew there was one of those favorites we should have taken out. And you know, for me, I like the things it would have been the Chiefs, I probably would have been Green Bay. But if the Green Bay was minus one and a half, it have been tough to switch them out at that point. So, yeah, bad, bad miss. The Washington really dominated that game and Giants almost got a gift at the end of it. There was a horrible fumble and the Giants almost were in the position. But you know, Dart, he looked like such a rookie in that game. Washington was begging. Yeah, for him to come back and win that game, he just couldn't steal it. So he was, I think he was plus 220 for offensive rookie year. I think that's going to drop way down as well. So. So again, him and McMillan, those were the two big favorites for offensive rookie of the year. I really can't wait. I just. People can just tell I am very fired up about this kid and what the Saints team did today. So yeah commander is Mariota. That, that stat we got to keep in the back of our mind, Chad, that shut out stat now 5.0this season. It's crazy. It's on a crazy run.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, it's. It's pretty amazing. All right.
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Simon Hunter
A couple questions in my head. I said if I didn't say it in. The team gets shut out the week before. They are now 50 this season covering the spread following week.
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Chad Millman
Joe Connelly watching the show right now wants to know. I know your answer. Are the 49ers the team to beat in the NFC? I don't, I don't know how we can say that right now with the Rams playing the way they're playing. I like the Rams just beat the Lions. The Rams have been showing up big. The ners have been doing it for three weeks now with Brock Pie but they're still so limited on defense. They have so many injuries. They have so many guys who aren't their top line guys. To me the Rams just have a better roster of of their top line talent right now.
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Simon Hunter
I love that Joe's fired up. But yeah, the reason we like the 49ers coming to season is their schedule's a joke. So it's the same as the Patriots. It's like they're going to be a high seed. They, I mean going back to the games they lost, you know that really bad games of the, the Rams when it was Mac Jones or maybe that was Brock, but it was 42 to 26. They've since then they beat Arizona, they beat Carolina, they bet they be Cleveland now they beat Tennessee.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
The remaining games are the Colts. Then they get a, you know, pretty tough Bears team and then the Seahawks. So you know, we'll know more about them in the next four weeks. I just. You lose your number one pass rusher and then you lose Fred Warner. Salah is. I don't know if they gave DC's coach of the year awards he'd win it for me like what he's done in or Flores. You know what they put those two guys have done with scraps has been really impressive. But 49ers so much more. Their, their defense every week just plays so hard.
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Chad Millman
Well, look what what we said in the off season about the most important additions in all of football. The names that we kept dropping were Robert Sala and Ben Johnson.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
Because we thought Ben John, like Robert Salah was Going to have such a huge impact on that Niners defense and we're seeing it with, with a lot of guys who don't have a lot of experience. I wonder if we'll, we'll be the same on Hero of the Week, but give me your shame on you.
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Simon Hunter
Pretty easy. Gotta shame on you. To all these Patriots fans. Oh my God, were they loud and cocky. If you, if you would have heard or gone on social media chat for that first half. Not that it feels like all the worst people are Patriots fans. I feel bad for the Patriots fans. You're just your loudest fans are the worst people in the Internet and they're the loudest ones. And they took the most insane victory lap because they say they're a veteran and they've been there. They've done that amateur amateur hour taking a victory lap in a divisional game against Josh Allen when you're up 21 nothing. So my God, that felt so good until the witch got killed in that Chiefs game. Other than that, this Patriots lost just their fans. Fans, they're so loud, they think they know football because they had Tom Brady. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. It's like you guys don't know football. You just had one of the greatest dynasties ever. It's, you know, they're this, they're a little ahead of their time. They want Drake made to be that guy. He looks the part. But taking that victory lap just was such a bad look for your guys fan base. But I know it's not all of you, right? I'm an Eagles fan. I know one third of my fan base are full on idiots. They wanted to bench an all pro Super Bowl MVP quarterback after a couple of bad weeks. So I get it. Patriots fans. But man, the loud ones, I just rarely do. I wait to see the end of a game to go back and check people's comments and just hate Reed. And yeah, I threw on Boston local radio when I drove back from Atlantic City. It was just, it was a fun hour drive back to my place listening to these fans up in New England talking about their team and that bill's law. So I love it. I love it.
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Chad Millman
By the way, speaking of Tom Brady, great line today on a Matthew Stafford throw that was a complete and total dart. He called it a one ball and then he goes, that was just, that was just a piss missile. I don't even know what that means, but it sounds like a great line that they used to talk about in the locker room. It was fantastic. Listen how do you not shame the Chiefs. For all it's worth? They kind of never did figure out their offensive line issues. They never did figure out their receiver issues. They never did figure out their running back issues. They knew they had these issues coming out of the super bowl blowout last year, and I think they just believed, well, we got Patrick Mahomes and he's going to make his magic. And you can't do that again and again and again if you don't have the personnel around you. They were waiting for Rasheed Rice. They thought Xavier Worthy would develop into that guy. Holly Brown hasn't been that guy. Pacheco and Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt aren't those guys. Travis Kelce is a year older. Their defense did not come up big when they needed that defense to come up big again and again and again and again. The roster needed to be fixed and they kind of didn't fix it. And as you pointed out, they didn't draft well. So we can go on and on about the deficiencies on the field, the misplays, the bad calls, but the end of the day, they kind of didn't have the talent to do what they need to do. And we saw that in the super bowl last year, and they just didn't develop enough to put it in place to be able to execute this year. So shame on the Chiefs personnel team for not building a roster that could make Patrick Mahomes continue to be the hero that he had always been. And now he's got a torn acl.
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Simon Hunter
It's over. Your season's over. It's not even January and your season's over, Kansas City fans. Oh, my God. So good.
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Chad Millman
I know who my hero of the week is. I wonder if it's the same one as yours.
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Simon Hunter
I mean, I probably gave it away a little, but it's got to be. It's gotta be my boy Shuck.
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Chad Millman
Oh, God, no. I mean, yeah, sure, he could be, but he is.
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Simon Hunter
He did exactly what I need him to do as someone that bet his rookie future and just bet into this New Orleans game. And people know if you listen to the show, Simon says has been deader than dead. Just people dancing on the grave of Simon says Just the was the thing about a name change, that's how dead that bet was. Needed. Needed.
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Chad Millman
Simon don't say.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, exactly. Needed. Needed the Saints badly today. And you know, the plus two and a half, we didn't really force it in because it's like we knew it was going to come down to the three. If I like either side. It was just going to be a three point game and we needed to man up. We didn't man up. But my hero shuck just an absolute game like I already gave it out 272 yards and a touchdown and led the team in rushing. Just I can't wait to see what they reopen him for offensive rook of the year because they're not opening it yet and I am. I cannot wait to see what the cash out offers these books offer me because just laying him at 200 1, not realizing the path for him, it's there. And yeah, this is just. If you're a Saints fan, how do you not be excited? I think he broke Archie man his passing record because it's like a thousand two hundred yards or something insanely low like that. So pretty, pretty cool what Chuck's done for the Saints team in a small amount of time.
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Chad Millman
Dude. Philip Rivers came off the bench where he's been sitting for five years and had his team in the lead with like late, late, late in the fourth quarter against one of the best defenses in the NFL and a team that is potentially going to be the number one seed in the NFC. And the dude had a touchdown pass. He had 120 yards passing. He had 18 completions. He completed nearly 70% of his passes, 66, 67% of his passes. Like come on. Philip Rivers on a day where the Titans didn't cover a huge number, a double digit number, the jets didn't cover a double digit number, the Las Vegas Raiders didn't cover a double digit number. The There was one more that I can't remember in the early game that did not cover a double digit number. Philip Rivers not just covered a double digit number. He almost pulled off the upset. Five years since he last played. He last played during COVID That's how long it's been since he played. He became a grandfather since he last played. The dude almost pulled off an upset. He definitely got the back. He got, definitely got the COVID Good for Philip Rivers.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, we've joked that we had, you know, before we entered our show earlier that you had to kind of put a little bit on the Colts money line. And I honestly can't believe it was a live bet just because as much praise you're giving full Brevers was again maybe is better than whatever was out there. But my God, he did look every bit of 45 years old.
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Chad Millman
Oh my God, he was like pushing. Philip Rivers always had a weird delivery, right? It always looked like, he was pushing the ball a little bit, but when he would push the ball, it would still go 60 yards. He was pushing the ball today and it was wobbly and looked like it was going to go six feet.
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Simon Hunter
And the best part was as an overweight guy, there's something called a fat pick where you always pick out your hoodie or like a tight shirt at your belly. He fat picked the entire game. Just could not. Like, my buddy turned to me, he's like, is he wearing like a flak jacket? I was like, no, that's just his. This pat. Like, this is. You're seeing a pork 45 year old, but yeah, I'll eat it with. We didn't talk much about Rivers. I didn't know there was people out there like, I love Rivers. Who doesn't love Rivers? He's a gunslinger. In my mind. This man did not snit, does not sniff hall of Fame, and apparently people think he does. Like, a lot of people out there reach out to me after our show. They're like, you're hating on Rivers. He's a Hall of Famer. And it's just like, guys, playoffs have to mean something. I'm all for regular season stats, but a man that went 5 and 7 in the playoffs and never went to one AFC championship, never won an AFC championship game and had a Hall of Fame running back in LT and a Hall of Fame tight ending antenna gates. I mean, what do we. There has to be a line somewhere. So Phil Briver is really impressive what he did today. And if I'm a Colts fan, you are dead, but you're not totally dead. Like, you can see with him as your quarterback, you can hang in games. I think he'll get better as the games go on. We'll see if he's healthy after this game because he did take some huge hits. And like we said, he hasn't been hit or anything like that in five years. It's gonna be interesting how his body handles getting back into football.
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Chad Millman
Well, you could already see him on the sideline. He was getting treatment. They were taking him through stretching exercises, right?
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Simon Hunter
Yeah.
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Chad Millman
At one point I saw him on the sideline and I couldn't see the person behind him that was sort of propping him up and manipulating his body. But he had his hand up and I kept thinking like a player was coming over to give him a high five. And it wasn't that. It was just a dude behind him who was like moving his shoulder around and it happened to be how his hand was lifted. So, you know, playoffs mean something. I agree. Josh Allen, never been to the super bowl. Mvp, broke all of Cam Newton's, you know, records as a dual threat quarterback. No one says Cam Newton's going to the hall of Fame. And he was a revolutionary player for 10 years. Won an MVP and took his team to a Super Bowl.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. And I put a poll out and he was the fourth lowest voted. So he was voted behind Matt Ryan, behind Rivers and behind Russell Wilson. So the fans of our show, they do not think highly at all of Cam Newton. So.
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Chad Millman
Interesting, right?
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, very interesting.
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Chad Millman
All right, Simon says, like you said, New Orleans plus two and a half. Green Bay was Chad's choice. Not. Not a good choice. Brass balls is Minnesota plus five and a half. Rock and a hard play was Buffalo minus one and a half. Sharp versus square. Chad had Buffalo, Simon had the Rams favorites. Parlay Rams.
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Chad Millman
Green Bay. Boo. Kansas City. Buffalo. Yay. Pittsburgh tomorrow night, underdog parlay. Cincinnati, Washington, Minnesota. Don't know. Las Vegas don't. Bummer. New Orleans. All right, early liens. We know we got to talk about Carolina as a one and a half point dog against the Bucks at home. We don't like betting Carolina on the road as a favorite. We don't mind betting Carolina as a dog. And if you honestly, which team off of a bad loss feels like it has momentum, right? More momentum. Which team feels like it has more spirit? Which team feels like it's playing harder? Which team feels like it might be running away from its coach? Which team is fully invested in his coach? As I say all those things, it makes me think, oh my God, I gotta bet the Bucks. But we want to bet the Niners or the Panthers.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, the Bucs fan base. I, I've, I've been on their Reddit, all the Liam cone articles I can read. It's brutal. You let that man walk out the door. And Todd Bowles just looks totally aged out and lost as a head coach. I mean, their defense, Tampa is atrocious. So I'm with you. I'm not going to rush to about the one and a half though, because I do think, Chad, we might be get twos in there. Like that Panthers loss, that was a bad loss. That's gonna be more fresh in people's mind than the Tampa loss. Which Tampa, you can make an excuse that they are technically undervalued. Right? They had a 14 point lead. They blew it. Like they had that game in so many ways against Atlanta and so many things had to break right for Atlanta for them to lose it. So that's a really interesting one to watch. What the number is going to do for that one. For me, games that just jumped out right away. I know it's, it's, it's insane, Chad, but you're, you're green. Your, your pairs are two and a half three point dogs right now.
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Chad Millman
Well, I was. That, that was the only other one on my radar really. It's actually in some places it's two in some.
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Simon Hunter
So it's. The pros are handed then I, I'm. I saw some three. So yeah, it's. I'd grab the early Bear twos and a half. It just. Green Bay has so many injuries and even though the Bears have had injuries. I don't know you guys, your run game is so dominant and the Bears again in this matchup, I think they'll be able to run against this Green Bay team. So I'm really excited to see what the pros do that one. I could see early money coming in on the floors Green Bay team after a bad loss like that. So I'm excited to see what the market does with that.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, totally agree.
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Simon Hunter
All right, let's. Let's hit it again. Chargers plus one and a half at Dallas. I gave you those stats. Herbert is a dog. I, I gotta stop overthinking and just keep betting it. I mean he just, he's what, 12 and two now as a dog? He just always covers the dog. It's crazy. Herbert and everything. I thought he would be in that game. He did struggle in some aspects. Right. He only scored 16 points. But the hand was never truly an issue in my opinion. Like it was just. Well, we've seen him time and time again. He gets moved off his spot where there's a heavy pass rush. But this indoors with all the elements controlled and him being three weeks now since surgery, I, I think this line flips especially if the Vikings pull off an upset tonight. So I'm gonna take the early charges of the dog line and last one. Can't. Can't believe I'm doing it. But Patriots plus three plus two and a half right now at. At the Ravens. Something's just off with Lamar. If that felt like since he lost that game, not so much the real.
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Chad Millman
Oh yeah. Every time I was watching that game, it felt like Cincy was moving the ball and then, then they just couldn't score. Like something.
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Simon Hunter
Joe just had a horrible day. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna back Rabel New England as a dog here on the road. And I'm, I'm almost positive the public's gonna come in on this Ravens team. I just, I, I think people are gonna be a little sour now on this Patriots team. I think they'll have a letdown here, but I like that number a lot.
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Chad Millman
All right, so what we're looking at right now, Carolina plus one and a half. We're holding off Chargers plus one and a half against Dallas. Bears plus two and a half against Green Bay. New England plus two and a half plus three against the Ravens. We won today with the Rams and with the Bills. We lost with the packers and the Chiefs. We have the Vikings plus five and a half tonight. This has been Sharper Square presented by Hard Rock bet, part of the Volume podcast network. We will be back with our next Sharper Square on Tuesday to go over the entire NFL slate, watch or listen on YouTube at Sharper Square like this video. Subscribe to the channel. Download us from Spotify, Apple Pods, wherever you get your pods. Rate review. Subscribe. Lubus 5 stars. Say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift. Until next time. Love you.
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