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Sharp or Square - NFL WEEK 16 REACTION - Bills-Browns, Jaguars-Broncos, Bucs-Panthers, Jets-Saints, Chargers-Cowboys and more
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Chad Millman
Welcome to Sharper Square presented by Hard Rock Bat. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. This is the show that makes the Square sharper And makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined as always by my co host, my companion, my compadre, my bff professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon.
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Simon Hunter
Chad. How we doing?
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Chad Millman
Dude, what a great day. What a fun weekend. What a fun experience from Thursday through yesterday into today. Great games. Some games down to the wire. One of the games that we are still paying attention to, the Detroit Lions. They are one of the teams we had in the contest. We had them at minus six and a half. We got a shot. We got a small, infinitesimal, only if you believe in irrational optimism, shot in that one. We lost the Bills minus ten and a half. We won the Panthers for the game. We have spent a podcast career waiting to bet. We won the Panthers plus three and a half at home against Tampa and we went with the Jags plus three and a half on the road against, against the Broncos. Our last ones out. Kind of a mix of the Giants, the Colts tomorrow night, Tennessee and Las Vegas. So you know, we, we could have been better than we are. As usual, we are two in one, hanging on to a very thin thread of hope with the Detroit Lions. Did you enjoy the day?
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, fun day. Great games. Detroit, Detroit bet is dead though unfortunately Pittsburgh missed the field goal.
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Chad Millman
So I. Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, I was jabbering. Well, the Detroit bet is dead and now they get a chance to win, which just makes us annoyed because we're both huge Bears fans right now.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, we'll see. Crazy game. But yeah, all the games today, really fun games, crazy games. And you know, not, not too much to say about the bad teams. Right. There was like these, a couple of bad teams that were playing. I didn't really watch too much of those games, but these high profile games that felt like playoff games were pretty insane. And yeah, the biggest shocker of the day in my opinion was just this Jaguars game. Again, we're going to talk about.
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Chad Millman
I just, we're going to talk about that.
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Simon Hunter
I can't believe how that game went. And it's rare where you take a dog in that spot that kept getting bet by the pros against it. Right. The pros piled in on that favorites and you know, they got blown up by double digits. So pretty, pretty shocking result in that one. But great games today.
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Chad Millman
All right, so we won with the two dogs. We're down with one favorite. We're going to lose with the other favorite as soon as over in the Lions. Let's talk about Carolina first because like I said, this was the Game we've been waiting our lives to bet. Anyone who has listened to the show knows we have been backing the Carolina Panthers forever. We committed to it today. We said this is the game that we have earned ourselves the right to bet. And I gotta tell you, when it started, the Bucks for a hot minute looked exactly like the team that had all of its weapons. With Bucky Irving, with Mike Evans, with Chris Godwin. Like Baker looked good, but the Panthers did what the Panthers do. And Bryce Young continues to just be impressive under pressure and Tetaro and McMillan was making unbelievable catches today. And so to me, like at the end of the half, Baker was only 7 of 10 for 41 yards. And the Carolina Panthers stopped the Bucks inside the five yard line three straight times. They had to settle for a field goal. Like the Panthers were on one today. And it was freaking glorious.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. And it was both sides of the ball. Their defense was hard hitting, really rallied around the just the home crowd like that. It for honestly the first time it feels like it since Cam Newton's, you know, 2015, 2016 run. They legit felt like they had a home field advantage there, right? The offense, Baker trying to switch plays and stuff. There's a few times where he did try to check into a run or had to use the time on the sideline just because you could not hear over the crowd noise. And it was a weird game though just for Baker and that offense in a sense that I think a Mecca Buca two targets, he had one catch for 40 yards. Mike Evans had a ton of targets. He had like nine targets or 10 targets and he didn't really do much with it. It was just a really bizarre game. On the flip side, like you said, Teddy Roy McMillan, how is he not the rookie of the year right now? So yeah, I'm shocked by what I've seen from this Panthers team. The fact that like we've talked about all year, they just keep bouncing back. So pretty bizarre that we have just had this team have a letdown the next week really show up. Like we said, both sides as well that felt like they dominated especially that second half. So good as Panthers organization. And I don't know if it's next week, doesn't really matter. But it really does come down to that final matchup with the Tampa Bay Bucks once again and they just look like the better team this Panthers. So I can't wait to see do they just get rolled next week, Chad? And do we just back them once again come week 18?
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Chad Millman
Simon. Simon. I'm going to Say it now. Next week, Carolina Panthers are seven and a half point home underdogs against the Seattle Seahawks. I don't see this team giving an inch. I see this team wanting to build. That's what they get.
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Simon Hunter
That's what they get you to do every time.
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Chad Millman
I know, right? Did something just fall in your house? It sounded, it sounded. Or was that just some sound effect?
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Simon Hunter
No, well, I, I have too many phones. One of my three phones went off, unfortunately. I don't know how I missed it. Usually I'm pretty good at muting these things.
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Chad Millman
It sounded like it was a drum set. It sounded like you were giving me like, you know, but I'm bum or Matt Mitchell was playing, playing, playing games with us. I do want to point out a couple things about Bryce Young because after Tampa Bay scored a touchdown to take the lead, Bryce Young had a classic Bryce Young drive. Which is all the reasons why we bet Bryce Young, which ended with him spinning and stumbling and scrambling forward, keeping his eyes up, then finding Jotavian Sanders to take the lead. A 10 play drive that included a pinpoint, brilliant, accurate pass on the back shoulder and a one handed catch by Tet McMillan, who also had a touchdown in that game. Like he was amazing. And then when it's tied, 310 left, Bryce Young, third down from his own 33, hits Coker over the shoulder for another brilliant in the bread basket throw. 37 yards, gets him to the 34 for, gets him to the 33 yard line for Tampa Bay. And like they kicked a field goal to pick off Baker to end the game. Baker looked terrible, like he was never in rhythm outside of those first couple of drives.
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Simon Hunter
No need. A few times where his leg saved him, but overall, yeah, they just, they just didn't look with it consistently. Like we said, they've had all their weapons back and you know, every week it's been bizarre. I'm not going so good to start the year. They're literally down a place for him having to be their number one and in a matchup like this, for him to have two targets, it just doesn't make sense.
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Chad Millman
And that, yeah, it's insane because he had one great catch that sort of started to put him in position and then, you know, the game was over after that.
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Simon Hunter
So. Yeah, no, it's, I'm glad we stuck to it, but it's also, we always talk about, it's about the number where. Hate to say it, but the two and a half, it was like, you know, not as confident, but the three, that's where we wanted to be at that one. So, yeah, we got lucky for our contest. We got the three and a half.
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Chad Millman
I'm watching the Lions game out of the corner of my eye right now. It's fourth and two for the Lions with a minute 39 left. So we'll be updating that. The Buffalo Bills were ten and a half point favorites against the Cleveland Browns today. I think we can both agree there were two games today where we went against our instincts and bet on favorites that were of a larger number. The Bills and the Lions betting against the Cleveland defense, betting against the Steelers in a rah rah, Mike Tomlin spot of a significant number. And, oh, there's some kind of flag. I think it's going to be pass interference on the Steelers. So the lines are going to have the ball at midfield. The Bills should have won this game 37 to 10. And they just let the Browns stand at Quinchon. Judkins left the game with a lower leg injury. He's carted off. Shador Sanders left the game because his pinky nearly fell off and then he had to come back in. Like, the Bills should have put this team away a thousand different ways and they couldn't do it. When you watch that game, were you frustrated? Were you angry? Were you like, this is stupid. Like, I felt all those things watching this game.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it hurt. I, I told you earlier that I had a, a decent amount of money just simply on the Bills money line. I thought that was cooked because like you said, everything was just going wrong for this Bills team. And, you know, at half, they're up 20 to 10 getting the ball. We're both feeling pretty good. But yeah, the little fear was okay. Did Josh Allen break his foot right before half and he went and got X rays and X rays were negative and, you know, I don't know what you're thinking. In my back of my mind, I'm like, this isn't good. They're gonna play very protective of Josh Allen now and he's gonna play protecting himself. And you saw a little bit of that, but he was also just off target. It was a bad, it was just a bad half by Josh. Yeah, he did not play well today. And at the end of the day, we still should have covered, like you said, a million different ways. They missed the extra point and they had a drop touchdown in the back of the end zone. That's eight points. So should have landed right on 11. Should have been a cover even with all the other bs and we couldn't get There. So, you know, do I regret it? Obviously we, we want to win bets here, but yeah, it's, it's one of those, it's, I, I, I, I was never gonna help myself. I said it to you. It's, the Bills were the most public side. So usually. Right. We usually blindly fade, especially in that spot, that opportunity. And it's unfortunate where everything we said was true. The Bills could run. I think they average six, six yards per carry. They did whatever they want running the ball. It just didn't break our way. And Sanders, I think he led the Browns in rushing. He just had a couple of big plays with his legs that basically kept them in it. And yeah, we should have covered but the Browns, you know, they deserve the COVID They were in that game the entire way. And this Bill's team, it's bizarre. We all think they're going to make a run to the Super Bowl. Oh my God. Just like a lot of these AFC teams, they have a lot of glaring weaknesses that can be exploited by certain teams.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, look like that before, like the end of the first quarter. The, the Browns were averaging nine yards per play before a Shador interception where he made a bad pass against the guy's shoulder. It popped up, it was intercepted. The Bills tie the game. But the Browns never had a problem moving the ball. Their only problem was that they had turnovers. The Bills meanwhile, like they had 103 yards on their first two drives, which were touchdowns. They had touchdowns on their first three drives. Overall they missed the extra point. I made a note, I'm like this extra point, this is, this is going to hurt by the way. The Steelers are down, the lines, are down to the 10 yard line right now. They just had a huge screenplay to a Monroe St. Brown. I don't know if you're watching or not, so I'm giving you the update but you know, they were averaging 10 yards per carry as well. James Cook is trying to win the rushing title today. And then they could not do anything again. They should do it. Had a 14 play, 8 minute drive to make it a 2317 game. And I know Matt Mitchell was irritated. Like the Bills seem like they stopped trying because of his injury. Three plays in a punt, two plays off a pick for a field goal. Seven plays, only 36 yards, turnover on downs. Punt. Then they're fourth and one in the goal line. Drop. Drop a pass and the Browns ended with 247 left and the guy drops the ball and they got bailed out by a tripping penalty. Which nobody saw. Simon, how many times did I see plays today where I said to myself, if they would just review every play from the booth and do the instant replay or the instant. Whatever they're calling it, assisted review, this would be a better game. You wouldn't have these calls that actually have an impact.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, but like you said, it just, it was a bad Josh Allen day. We just, we. We unfortunately got one of those days, like anytime he's gonna be 12 and 19 for 130 yards, we're pretty much dead. So he, he unfortunately did not live up to the moment. And you know, their Browns defense, they are very good, but they just, they got, you know, if you bet the Browns, it's a good cover, but at the end of the day, it's, what are we going to do, Chad? It was a. It was a bad bet. Taking the spill side.
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Chad Millman
Detroit Lions just took the lead with 22 seconds left. Matt Mitchell is going crazy because he's saying that it was not a bad day for Josh Allen. He totally disagrees. I do, too. There were some dreadful mistakes by his teammates. Jacksonville at Denver. Oh, wait. There might have been a penalty on the lines. Jacksonville at Denver. Jacksonville was a three and a half point road underdog. Simon, this morning. We saw the pros coming in on Denver. We had an extended conversation. We saw the pros coming in on Denver. We saw the pros coming in on New England. We had a heavy debate about taking New England out and we were afraid to do it because we didn't want to lose the six and a half on the Lions, which as usual, like the pivot point line, ended up meaning nothing for us in the contest. Trevor Lawrence, on the first scoring drive of this game, made two ridiculous passes. One time he was running left, throwing right in the middle of the field on a dime. The second, tight coverage in the corner of the end zone for the first touchdown. And I'm like, he's playing a different game the past five weeks. There's no reason to hate him anymore.
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Simon Hunter
We never hated him. We just didn't understand it where it's like, he has so much talent. Why can he not be consistent? And, you know, the offense, like we've talked about, there are guys wide open, like, the scheme is so great, where, you know, he just plays within it and doesn't do his crazy stuff. And, you know, Lee and Coleman talked about coming to the season using Trevor Lawrence's legs. And I feel like we've seen that these last couple weeks. They've really lean into the QB Sneak, especially in the red zone area. So, you know the Russian touchdown today, three passing touchdowns, like, it's. It's crazy. I think he's like 50 to 1 for MVP. I know he won't win it. Right. We're too late in the year. But there is a path. They get the one seed, he could somehow, you know, if Stafford doesn't get the one seed, he's a wild card. They don't really give the MVP to wild card teams. So there is an avenue. Like, I'm not. I'm not saying it's out of the realm just because, you know, Trevor Lawrence has played so well down the stretch here, and this was a dominant performance, not just by the offense, with the defense as well. So, you know Bo Nix, if you were someone that backed the Broncos tonight, you got Bo Nixed. He was just off in a lot of passes.
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Chad Millman
And yes.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, not consistent. But I don't know like you about you, but I think anyone watching this, Bo Nix has reached a level of. I was a little scared when they're down. They're down 14. He had the ball, and it's like, oh, my God, this is what Bo Nicks does. And we're gonna. We're gonna get got here. But, you know, lucky, like we've talked about, the Jaguars defense, they're for real. They really did shut him down. So, yeah, they were awesome.
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Chad Millman
And I definitely was doing the gambler's math in my head when it was 3417 at the start of the fourth quarter, I'm like, okay, they have to score three touchdowns against the Jags defense, which has been playing lights out over the next 15 minutes of this game. They need the ball three times. They got to score three actual touchdowns in order to cover this game. And in my head, I was still thinking, it's Bo Nix. It's been a crazy year. They flashed a graphic with his stats when he's behind in the fourth quarter and like, 106 passer rating, 17 touchdowns. Like, all the glory to Bo Nicks. But Trevor Lawrence did his thing. You just mentioned him running with the ball. The best play of the game for him might have been they've got a third down. They need to convert it because they want to keep the ball away. They're up two touchdowns. There's like five minutes left in the game. He realizes that the Broncos lose contain. He runs to the spot and then keeps going and then sees he's about a yard short. And before he can get tackled, the just dives. He. Superman's for the first down. Got it. That was the game. Like the Broncos were not going to be able to score enough points if they got the ball back after that. And by the way, Simon, the very next play. What have we gotten so mad at Trevor Lawrence about this year? Not being able to snap the ball without getting delay a game in critical situations. Next play he got the ball, snapped with like 1 second left. It was. He was awesome. He was awesome.
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Simon Hunter
That was crazy. Honestly was surreal watching. I couldn't believe how, how good he was playing for us. And no, we were two of his bigger haters this year. And he has really turned it around that mid season. Whatever happened, they've just been the class of the class. And I said coming to this game, it's like I, I don't think these teams are that much different. I don't. I think most of us still agree they're not 14 points better than this Denver team.
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Chad Millman
No.
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Simon Hunter
But the Jags now, I think they're going to catch people's respect now that they're going to be a real contender in the playoffs. They don't have many weaknesses. They're. They're a complete team for sure.
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Chad Millman
Look, the, the key point here, and this is where I think the Jags and Liam cone stood their ground and proved they can play with anyone in the AFC. That opening drive they had of the second half, they're up 17 10. The Broncos have the ball. They get a defensive pass interference, they get a personal foul and. And they give up a 40 yard touchdown run to PJ Harvey, who broke like four tackles. And then they just pushed him into the end zone because they tried to force a fumble instead of tackling him. The very next drive, Trevor Lawrence goes 5 for 6 for 35 yards, 75 yards on the drive, takes up time, scores a touchdown. They go up 24, 17. He was 13, 15 for like 150 and a touchdown in the second half. Just brilliant. I'm so on the Trevor Lawrence bandwagon. I don't know who said they didn't like Trevor Lawrence. It wasn't us because we love Trevor Lawrence. Remember when we voted for him for. When we bet on him for MVP four years ago? I think we're back on that train.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, it's just crazy coming to this game and just the fact that he was my only true concern and he just played at a crazy high level against such a good defense. It really, really was so impressive.
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Chad Millman
So this, this, this Lions game is not over yet.
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Simon Hunter
For some reason, I don't know they're getting another free play here. I don't know what's happening.
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Chad Millman
It's insane. But they're not going to cover the six and a half regardless. And this was a real lose though.
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Simon Hunter
We're. We're rooting on our Bears futures here.
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Chad Millman
Game's over. The game's over. The lines just lost. So crazy. This was a weird game. First 30 minutes of the game, it was 10:3. Key play changed everything. Kenneth Gainwell a. The Steelers have the ball at the end of the first half. They had a third and 10 convert. Third and 11 convert. Multiple short third downs, convert. And then, then Aaron Rodgers just throws a Hail Mary. Ask like past Kenneth Gainwell. And Alex Anzalone tackles him while he's trying to catch it. The ball lands on Gainwell's arm. He catches it. Anzalone doesn't touch and hit touch him. Gainwell gets up and scores a touchdown. It's 10:10. The Lions were done after that. Like they. In the third quarter, they had the ball for three plays. Negative three yards in a safety like that was it.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, just a bizarre world. We. We just get. We got crushed again by the going against juju, the voodoo that is Tomlin. And bizarre like that catch, it literally hit his forearm and his other hand was in just this position to keep it so it never touched the ground. And yeah, the wherewithal to pick it up and run knowing that he hadn't been touched, he got touched before he had the ball was just an incredible play. And yeah, just, you know what we talk about all the time, The Pittsburgh wins. They don't make sense. Detroit outplayed them in every way. You know, stupid penalties or, you know, going for the fourth down and not getting it. It was just, it was one of those games for Detroit and you can't even blame their defense. Like you said, their defense, you know, they had only given up.
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Chad Millman
They couldn't get him off the field on third down. They could not. Like that was.
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Simon Hunter
Other than that stupid safety. They'd only given up, including that stupid fluky touchdown. 13 points basically heading into the fourth quarter. And then you're right, Warner, you know, had busted off a huge run and opened up the floodgates. And yeah, they're that like you're talking about that touchdown drive they had three different times. They had Rogers in third and 10 or third and 12 and he picked up those third downs to go get that touchdown before half. So I agree with you on that, but I just thought the offense laid a total leg like they just Looked at sports, you know, golf had a really bad game. I mean, Romo says a lot of stupid shit, but the stupidest thing he said this season was golf is an MVP discussion. No one has had any type of discussion about Golf being an MVP, let alone now the man is on the 8 and 17, might not even make the playoffs. So that was just a bizarre world. But, yeah, this, this Pittsburgh team, I don't know how they do it, Chad. It's crazy. Like, they just. They have these type of games and, yeah, really impressive winning. You know, like you said, another season, Tomlin somehow gets over the 500 hump. It's. It's crazy. So. I can't believe it.
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Chad Millman
Unbelievable. Aaron Rodgers was so accurate on so many passes, getting the ball downfield again. Here's what's going to be interesting to me. So DK Metcalf, towards the end of the first half, got into it with some fan who was leaning over the railing on the Steelers sideline. And they have video of DK Metcalf taking a swipe at this fan. No one in the field saw it. The referees didn't see it, but they did make an announcement on the show, on the game that there was going to be some kind of punishment from the league. Who knows what it'll be? DK Metcalf suspended next week. Like, as we're thinking about the week 17 lines, do we need to look ahead and say, all right, is he going to have DK Metcalf next week? Aaron Rodgers, I don't know if it's going to be interesting because there was definitely an altercation with a fan with him taking a swipe at the guy on the sideline. I don't know if you saw that at all.
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Simon Hunter
I did, and immediately, you know what it made me think of, Chad? I missed the good old days of snitches get stitches. That had nothing to do with anything on the field. No one saw it. He was off talking to his fan. The guy said something, I'm gonna guess super offensive, that he probably, in a real life would have dropped the guy. He smacked them and immediately everyone was like, pointing straight, pointing the fingers, ooh, this guy's gonna get in trouble. So I, I hate it. It's gotcha. The gotcha culture. But he should be punished. You can't be smacking fans. Whatever they say in the stands, you gotta do the old fashioned way. Tell security and get the guy tossed out again. But, dude, I'm. I hate it. People need to be smacking their mouth. Some people just Say stuff. And yeah, apparently this guy held up his jersey to get him come over there and then said something to him, which is just.
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Chad Millman
Oh, is that what happened?
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, Crazy people are just so crazy. So, yeah, he could be suspended. I mean, I'll look at their schedule real quick. I think they end with the Ravens, right. So if it's the next game, right, like you're saying, that's best, best case scenario. So I'll be interested what the NFL does if he says, hey man, this guy said either a racial slur or something about my family. Are they really going to suspend him? I don't know. It's, it's, it's a tough spot for the NFL, but they might have to just because you can't have players smacking fans in the face. We know.
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Chad Millman
Meanwhile, the Lions, they just looked terrible. Like it's a bad year when, you know, it's interesting. Romo says what he says, but when the, they were showing the graphics up, like Jared Goff, 29 touchdown passes, five interceptions, whatever money yards, top five in all categories. If you had said to me as Jared Goff having a good year, I would have said, absolutely not. How many times have we said on the show the lines don't seem right? And like today they just, they didn't seem right at all. Like Jameer Gibbs couldn't get it going. Jared Goff couldn't get it going. I, they didn't, they didn't have the ball past their own 10 yard line until less than 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter. When we're talking about the second half, like, they were just terrible today. So, yeah, listen, it's a Bears division. I think we can agree. So I don't even need to know why we're, I don't even know why we're talking about the Lions.
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Simon Hunter
I just feel bad for Lions fans. It's like the NFL. Your window is literally two to three years and then it's just over. So pretty brutal.
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Chad Millman
It's tough. I mean, I do. If they can get their offensive line fixed, I still think they have enough offensive talent to make it go, but their offensive line just isn't as good this year. They've had issues on the interior all year long. And this year they were playing with a backup center. And even on that play where Goff was tackled in the end zone and there was a safety, part of the problem is the timing on the play was off because the snap was at his ankles. And so they've just had the same issues this year that have come up again and again and again and they haven't been as effective in the high leverage, high risk situations. We're two and two on the day. We got the New England Patriots plus three and a half tonight against the Baltimore Ravens. It's going to be exciting. Before we get to the rest of the games, the ones that almost made it in that certainly if we had chosen those instead of the losers, we'd be 4 0. Let's take a quick word from our friends at Hard Rock Bet. Want to know where I bet on sports during the holiday season? That's right, it's Hard Rock Bet. Not just because it's the presenting sponsor of our show, but because they make it easy to bet both pre game and live. In just a few simple taps, I open the app, find a bet I like and then bam. My bet is placed just in time for me to get back to wrapping presents and enjoying my favorite Christmas movie. Sign up today and bet $5 on any game. If it wins, you also score $150 in bonus bets, a winning bet plus an extra hundred and fifty dollars to bet with. Now that's spreading holiday cheer. Plus, Hard Rock Bet fills your stockings with new promos daily. So whenever you're listening, just open the app and check out what you've got. Any day of the week, download the Hard Rock Bet app and make your first deposit today. Payable and bonus bets. Not a cash offer. Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida. Offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. Must be 21 or over and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee and Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, call 1-833-Playwise in Indiana, if you were someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-809-with-IT gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia.
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So I'm looking at my phone right now because I One of the questions we have is about Tyler Schock and the Saints who crushed the jets today and he had another great game, but I wanted to see where ted A. Row McMillan was at and we talked about him a little earlier in the show. He had 10 catches for 73 yards and a touchdown. I'm sorry. He had six catches for 73 yards, 10 targets and and a touchdown. How are you feeling About Tyler Shock vs Ted Roll McMullen McMillan right now.
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Simon Hunter
I would still give it to McMillan just because he's been more consistent obviously throughout the whole season. But yeah, the shock if shuck like I keep saying, if he wins out and he keeps putting the numbers, putting out, it's going to be really hard not to give it to him. It's just the hardest position to play and he keeps winning. It's really impressive. And he's just consistent. Like today, you know, I think he threw for 200 in the first half. No touchdowns in the second half, you know, was really great. Pass the ball Again, I think three or four or 300 yards and had great rushes. And it's just, it's bizarre like watching him, I just can't believe he's so. He's this good and consistent for this Saints team. I just remember they took him the second round. I was just like, that's feels like a bizarre pick or maybe it's a third round. Whatever it was, I just felt like it was a reach and to me, the kids but my by far the best crook. Even though, you know, Cambord played well today, he did win. Yeah, I, I think that shucks his playing just as well. So yeah, I just looked at. The only thing I could see up right now is mvp. I am looking to see if they do update what Chuck's odds were. They were like 16:1 or 14:1 coming today, but for MVP odds. Trevor Lawrence, like I talked about, he was 55 to 1 literally 20 minutes before we started the podcast. He's down to 40 to 1.
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Chad Millman
Wow.
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Simon Hunter
So like I think pros are going to think see the same thing as me. I don't really think this guy's going to win it. But what is the last four games? I think he has 14 total touchdowns, no turnovers. It's. It's crazy. So you know, I said he played against a pretty soft schedule. This was the number one defense statistically in football and he really showed out. We said three touchdowns, one rushing. It's three pass, one rushing. Crazy, crazy, crazy world we're living in right now. Jags potentially going to be the 1 seed.
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Chad Millman
What are Kayla Williams MVP ads right now?
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Simon Hunter
No way. I don't even know if they're on the board, brother. Oh, they are 80 to one. That's actually a lot higher than I thought. 80 to one because he could, you're right, he could be the one seed.
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Chad Millman
But they could be the one seed and if they're the one seed propelled thereby what we saw on Saturday night all Of a sudden it's freaking magical.
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Simon Hunter
We're good, we're gonna get stats like he, he could have if he had played better start the year. But they were so run heavy for the first eight weeks. I, I think I'm still the mentality of like he could be your guys first 4000 yard passer but I don't think your head coach is going to let him sling it. I think he just wants to keep, keep running the ball. So it's a unique spot for the spares offense.
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Chad Millman
Listen, one of the games we left out today, Minnesota at the New York Giants. The line of the Giants in the, in the contest was two and a half and we were very disciplined on this one. We just didn't like it at anything lower than three. Thank freaking God. Because the Giants were a train wreck. Like they, it was just a comedy of errors. The Giants went for it early in the first half. On fourth and five in the red zone they get sacked. Next series, J.J. mcCarthy throws a pick. The Giants ran 10 of their first 11 plays in Vikings territory. Did not score in the first quarter. And then they had a pick six against the Vikings who were in the Giant side inside the Giants five yard line. They had a pick six against J.J. mcCarthy called back because Abdul Carter lined up in the neutral zone. The next series, Darth throws a pick. The Vikings score a touchdown. 14 point swing. J.J. mcCarthy didn't even finish the game. And the Vikings and the Giants could not score against the Vikings and ended up giving them the game winning field goal. What a pathetic performance.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah. And it was, it was bizarre. Dart was 7 of 13 for 33 yards or as Matt Mitchell likes to say a pretty good game. I, I don't know. Pretty bizarre in my opinion. Like I don't know why they weren't letting them pass the ball at all. They were running well so I guess they just leaned into that and you said we, we lost us the minute they went forward on fourth and five in the first quarter. It was very bizarre. It's like okay, I guess they're gonna be super aggressive this whole game but they weren't super no game. So I don't know what that thinking was. And like you said that when they called back that touchdown on him being off sides and they never gave us the camera angle to show us him actually being aligned up in the neutral zone. I was just fuming. I was like my God, they're going to kill us here. But yeah, the, the plus three like I gave it on Simon says we just with these Bad teams, you got to get every point you can. And, and yeah, thank God we not take it two and a half because that, that would have stung. That was just a brutal, brutal no cover. It just felt like you said the, the Giants, especially once the backup came in for Minnesota, he had two insane throws on third down to Jefferson that basically sealed that, that cover for them. So just an insane game altogether.
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Chad Millman
Simon. You know, it would fix calls that feel like they're wrong on the field if every play could be immediately adjudicated by officials who are watching the replay and come down with a booth review that says this actually wasn't a penalty. It almost feels arbitrary what they're choosing to do it for and what they're not doing it for. It's just stupid. Just do it for everything. And if the play is wrong, fix it on the field right away. Guess who covered the 14 and a half point spread against the Houston Texans? I take the blame for this. We were having the conversation this morning. I said, don't we have to put the Raiders in? And you said to me, if you want to own it, have the courage, do it. I did not have the courage. Part of me didn't have the courage because I just didn't want to lose the Lions line. That was really it.
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Simon Hunter
Like we got to stop getting attached to. Remember we learned that last week.
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Chad Millman
That's what I mean. And so like I didn't want to take the Lions out because I liked the line and we knew we were going to replace the Patriots. We weren't going to replace the Lions anyways. And so like I just didn't want to lose the six and a half. And I will not lie to you, when Gino threw that just atrocious pick six to start the game to Stingley Jr. Like, he basically threw it right to him. I'm like, ah, fuck, thank God, like this bed is dead and the goddamn Raiders. The Raiders defense made CJ Stroud look like CJ Stroud as he had been before he got injured, which was discombobulated, inaccurate playing off his heels. This whole offense looked terrible. They won 23, 21. Without that pick, the Raiders win the game.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, I again, I wish I'd more confident with you. I literally bet this game just because that trend we talked about, the shutout went 20 today. Obviously I much rather wish we had Cincinnati and than any game. It's like we were all over that one. We loved that. We knew Joe was going to bounce back. That was also a horrible miss. But yeah, the Raiders Won. I said on Tuesday this is the type of game where you had to bet the money line and bet the Raiders and it's going to make zero sense. And I wish I'd kept that confidence because when I woke up today and I looked at it, it's like how is Geno gonna move the ball against this Houston defense? Like it's going to take an absolute miracle. And they got it. Gente showed out. This was an incredible Gentee game. Two touchdowns, big touchdowns, two touchdowns, 128 rushing, a 60 yard reception with a. For a touchdown and just really dominant. So you know this, this Texans team, they were due for a letdown game. A little bit of a stinker and they still found a way to win which is really impressive by them. So yeah, it was a good read by you. And yeah, I'm just like you. I regret not getting in there. But like you said, probably only other, only other, only team we would have taken out, we would have. We would have lost in the line seven and a half anyway. We would have had the, the Patriots out. So we haven't sent here three and two which that hurts to know because now we got to stay up and sweat tonight.
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Chad Millman
I know. It's so frustrating. It's. It's every freaking week. We can't get the right games out for the games that we want to put in. The other one that we, that we sort of just blew off and I told you I bet the money line on the Tennessee Titans as underdogs against the Kansas City Chiefs. And neither of us really considered putting it in the contest because the line had moved so much. We just sort of felt like we weren't getting the best of it. And I only bet the money line kind of like as a, as a flyer like I was just like I don't know. But this Chiefs team seems to not have anybody playing who's on their first string anymore. So I'm just going to bet the Titans money line. And from the beginning the Titans were all over this. And then Gardner Minshew went out midway through the game with a torn acl. I think.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, I just had the under in it. I. I just didn't even want to watch it. So yeah, it was a good read by you and other pros. The pros hammered this Tennessee game and shocking. There were some pros on the Chiefs. Like that game did get back up to minus three and a half. Today was unique spot to a lot of sports books I talked to. They needed the Chiefs today. It was, it was a Rare opportunity that, you know, they, the public was all over Tennessee and they came through a big way. Like you said, they won 26 to nine and Minshew gets knocked out. So it's like a nine, six game at half. I don't know if Mintry got knocked out before the half or right in the beginning of the third quarter, but whenever it was, they brought. Yeah, like you said. Not that the defense gave up, but it felt like anytime they tuned back in this Tennessee game, they're getting big runs by Pollard and that just, you know, once the Chiefs defense goes, that whole team goes. They're just not a good offense. So. Yeah, it's. It's bizarre. It is truly bizarre that the Chiefs lose by double digits. Tennessee Titans. Who was that? Their third win. Just keep ruining their own draft position.
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Chad Millman
Seriously. The Giants, the Raiders, the Browns, those are the teams. The Titans might be up there. They might be top four. The Giant notes. The Giants, the Raiders, the Browns and the jets right now. And the Giants have number one. I think I forgot who's got number two, but the Browns have three. And so it could be interesting to see who's going to try to trade up number one again.
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Simon Hunter
It's Giants, Raiders. So yeah, right. It's good. Giants. Raiders are the both two 2 and 13 teams.
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Chad Millman
So what are the. What are the Raiders going to give up to go get Fernando Mendoza? That's the question. Because the Giants will trade down. Unless the Giants are like, screw it, we'll trade Jackson, Dart, get some more pieces and take Fernando Mendoza.
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Simon Hunter
If you believe in your heart of hearts, chat. It's him. You can get a minus 200. A lot of books right now to be number one pick. It's probably the best you're gonna get because I think the kid's gonna kill the interview process, so.
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Chad Millman
Oh my God, he's gonna crush it.
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Simon Hunter
Like you said, it'll be interesting to see who. Who ends up. Because if it is the Raiders with the number one pick, you know, that's. Could they do something stupid? Sure. But if it's the Giants, I could easily see them trading out or who knows, maybe they don't like Dart and how he plays. It's going to be really interesting draft.
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Chad Millman
By the way, next week, New York Giants and the Las Vegas Raiders are playing each other.
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Simon Hunter
Wow, that's great.
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Chad Millman
Isn't that crazy? The number on that game. Las Vegas is a one and a half point home underdog against the New York Giants. Raiders, Giants, Tennessee. Those are the games we missed. Bummer. Bummer. All Right, Simon, who are you nominating? Shame on you.
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Simon Hunter
Oh, Chad, I've been waiting. I was going to say something this morning. Not even that. I was going to say something last week when we took Minnesota Vikings to beat the Cowboys. Shame on you, Dallas Cowboys. Shame, shame, shame. Another failure of a season. Unbelievable. As an absolute Dallas hater, it doesn't get much better than this, this latest run, because they do love their quarterback. They do. They talk about Dak. I mean, never. Any amount of times I heard Dak is better than Jalen Hurts. What are we, two, two playoff wins for Dak? Was he about to be 31 years old at this point? The excuses get pretty thin, Chad. So the shame. I, I can't stop shaming them enough. This, this Dallas team, unique, unique spot for them today. We joked about it. I remember. Not that you love Dallas, but you were talking about how you like Dallas and we joked there's no way you could bet on Dallas today knowing that they had nothing to play for. And they looked like it. Yeah, that second half. So just a microcosm of their season. Total failure organizationally. And just gotta shame them. Just, just the, this big bad wolf of the 90s has just totally done nothing now for over 35 years. And like I always joke, if they want to enjoy their Super Bowls, you got to plug in the vhs, put in the tape. That's the world you're living in. Dallas Cowboys.
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Chad Millman
That is so. That is so, so true. My shame of the week has to be the Lions, Especially in that final two minute drive for the Steelers. They had so many chances to get off the field in that drive and they could not figure it out playing against a 42 year old quarterback. And the most important receiver for him on that drive was Adam Thielen, who joined the team like two weeks ago. It was the perfect example of how veterans play football when there's chaos on the field and everyone tenses up a little bit and they know exactly what to do because they've been in that position a thousand times. There were multiple plays on that drive where they found open spots in the zone and the Lions could not figure out how to stop this team again and again and again. That, that was the ball game. That drive was the ball game and they could not get off the field. So shame on the Detroit Lions. I think that was their season. I, I like. They're not, they're not going to make the playoffs right now. You're going to need 10 wins to make the playoffs in the NFC if you're not in the NFC South. So that was it. That was the lion season right there. And it's over.
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Simon Hunter
For our loyal listeners who are so loyal, listen to tonight. That Trevor Lawrence MVP stuff is crazy right now. I just got a text that he is down to 30 to 1 at a couple of big books. So the one book named after Donkey Kong, if you know what I'm saying, available for 40 to 1 if you want to go get it. So I'm going to do it as soon as I get off this call. I'm going to throw a little bit on it. Just I know it's not going to happen but we always say just in case it's like the shuck bet. It's crazy.
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Chad Millman
Yeah, you never know.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, might as well throw 10 bucks, 20 bucks on it because you never know.
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Chad Millman
Your hero of the week?
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Simon Hunter
Oh, this is pretty pretty easy for your boy Chad. The Philadelphia Eagles. My Hero of the Week Chad as an Eagles fan I try not to be too bad. I let you have your morning with your your Bears talk even though I didn't clinch a division like my Eagles did. And I just let you have your moment because I was gonna go so homorific later today doing my Hero of the week. It's it I I keep talking about it's the best. It's the best run of my lifetime. Like these two Super Bowls the past seven years and we just are one. Humphrey these last 20 years we just could not win the division back to back and that's why even coming to the year I remember I had tons of friends being like how are you giving out the Cowboys as one of your best bets to win the division? It's like well I'm betting big on the Eagles. The Cowboys is just. This always happens and it's not going to be Washington. That's going to be the one that's going to put a scaritos. It's going to be the Cowboys. But this year it was all Philadelphia and just all the stats, the, the, the crazy stats. Just the fact that you know, let me look at it. In 2004, 2003 we went back to back the Eagles. That is the last time Chad that any team in this division went back to back. It was Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, blah blah. All these different teams. I think the, the Cowboys we've basically been going back and forth then for years now but finally did it one back to back divisional titles. Got a couple AJ stats I'll give out real quick because it's never ending amount about I wish AJ was on a passing team blah blah blah. The most receiving yards in Eagles history for their first four seasons. AJ Brown with 4800 receiving yards. The next one DeSean Jackson at 4000. The next one Devonte Smith at 4000. So whenever somehow better passing offenses. AJ Brown not only set our franchise record but beat it by 800 receiving yards. Jalen Hurts took a ton of way.
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Chad Millman
The most amazing thing about that is as bad as your passing offense is devonte Smith is third.
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Simon Hunter
Yeah, no, it's because it's not a bad passing offense. People's expectations are ridiculous. Jalen Hurts been getting beat up this year. He is the first quarterback in NFL history to make the playoffs in four consecutive seasons with a different offensive coordinator than those four seasons. Jalen Hurts is the sixth quarterback in NFL history to reach the playoffs in his first five seasons as a starter. Pretty, pretty rare opportunity for him. And Nick Sirianni, a guy I need to give a ton of crops props to just because I was one of his biggest haters. I hated the guy's personality. He just irked me. He's a great coach. He is one of three Super bowl era head coaches to make the playoffs five times, win the Division 3 and go to the Super bowl two different times. The other two, Bill Cowherd and Chuck Knox. So Chuck Noel. So pretty pretty rarefied air. And yeah I just as an Eagles fan is a big time homer. I do my best not to bring it to the show because People hate Eagles fans. We're probably going to knock down in round one. But I believe we're going to win the super bowl. Obviously, but this, this could be peak. But the fact that we won our division and the Cowboys were eliminated with three games last. I was partying all Saturday when the Bears won their game chat. It was icing on the cake. It was. It was a great night for your guys. So yeah, hero of the week Philadelphia Eagles organization.
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Chad Millman
Well, listen, you know I love the Eagles as much as I would like to hate I have a huge affinity for the Eagles between, you know, doing invincible with Vince Papa, doing the show with you. Having spent so much time in Philly because of my kid going to Drexel. I love the way people in Philly speak. I love going to the Eagles games. I love the atmosphere in Philly around sports. I'm all in. Fly Eagles, fly. Go Eagles. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for the town. I'm happy for Nick Sirianni. I'm happy for Jalen. Hurts. I love it. I love that defense. I love that offense. I love that special teams. I love that offensive line. I'm with you 100% but there's no way you're taking away my hero moment from Caleb Williams. Because tonight. Tonight with the Detroit Lions lost, the Chicago Bears have clinched a playoff spot in the 2025 playoffs. Caleb Williams drops a dime in the bucket from 50 yards out with a point zero six inch line of separation to DJ Moore who had gone out of the game because he had been hit in the back. Without Luther Burden Jr Without Roma Dun with a offense that was struggling for most of the night, they come back from 10 points down in the final minutes. They recover an onside kick because this team believes good, better, best. They never let it rest until the game is over. And you know what Caleb Williams did today, Simon?
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Simon Hunter
What'd he do?
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Chad Millman
Caleb Williams on a football Sunday? He could have been hanging around watching red zone, seeing how the games played out. He went out into the community, did some community service with the people in the city of Chicago. And what was he wearing on his head?
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Simon Hunter
Tell me.
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Chad Millman
A cheese grater hat. The packers bear down. Caleb Williams. Hero of the week. Go Bears.
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Simon Hunter
Old timer.
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Chad Millman
Look at us. Look at us just being happy. Simon says was New York Giants plus three. Chad's choices New England plus three and a half. Brass balls is Washington plus six and a half. Rock and a hard place. Buffalo minus ten and a half. What the fuck, Talk about it. Come down here. Sharp vs. Square Chad had Tennessee, I think and you had the Rams.
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Simon Hunter
No, I had unfortunate. I had Buffalo.
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Chad Millman
Buffalo. I had Tennessee. Our favorites parlay was New Orleans. Yes. Detroit. No. Cincinnati yes. Buffalo minus five and a half. No. Dallas no. Our underdog Parlay. Tennessee yes. Arizona no. New York Giants. No. Jacksonville yes. New England is tonight. All right. I mentioned a couple of the lines for week 17. Carolina 7 1/2 point underdog at home against Seattle. That one immediately jumped out at me. You said be wary because of, you know, will Carolina have anything to play for? I don't think Carolina knows how to pull back. That's not the Panther way.
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Simon Hunter
That and just their up and down, up and downs we've had from this year. They just, they.
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Chad Millman
Every other game they lose and I've.
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Simon Hunter
Been making money off. It's. It's very, it's been very lazy, lazy betting. But it's been, it's been hitting really nice. Yeah, it's. It's going to be a tough week. Like I don't want to waste too much time the Christmas games because Rob. So we're going to go really hard on them on Tuesday. But you know the books are going to be begging for Washington and Minnesota money. The Washington are at home against Dallas. They're plus five and a half right now. I mean, I'll probably gonna take them. We'll find out who the quarterback is and that's what. I'll take my position because I'm, I'm obviously hesitant to back it. But Dallas looks like a team that was totally checked out today. And you know, in Minnesota plus five and a half against alliance team they already beat early in the year. The public is going to do what they did today. Right. They're going to hammer the Lions once again. So you can be patient. I want. I think we'll be able to get to 6. Two Saturday games. Don't really have a great read on either of them yet. Like it's, it's begging me to take the Chargers. Chargers are minus one and a half at home against the Texans. We've talked the Texans. It feels like they've just been getting away with one and today was the day they should have got caught and they, they still wanted. So maybe I'm overreacting and they are a legit team. I should just take them as a dog here. Like that's usually when we back CJ Stroud and usually fade Herbert as a favorite.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
We didn't even talk about Herbert. But again, another week Herbert has a dog covered. The stats are just Crazy, I think. Yep. 13 and 2 against this, against the spread as an underdog. Then the night game on that Saturday is Green Bay packers versus the Ravens. Yeah, some, some books opened. Green Bay plus two. Plus two and a half. Really gonna be interesting what that number is. If it's still available, you can still get it tonight. If the Ravens do win or you know, say they do show up and they blow them out. This easy to go up to minus three. Minus three and a half for this Ravens team. So just early indication I'll be patient. I want to be on Green Bay. Like I think Malik Willis is pretty good.
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Chad Millman
Yeah.
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Simon Hunter
So that's a really interesting one. Now let's get to the the bets I do want to make, Chad. You know, I know people are going to be annoyed of it, but I'm going to keep going to this well of this Colts team. It's. I know the history of them the Jags, but they're plus seven right now. Just early line. I'll grab that the plus seven at home against the Jaguars. I just people don't have to rush to get it because they get the seven and a half. But I'm going to grab it now just in case they do upset the 49ers, that number will drop. So that's an early one I'm going to grab. I can't believe it. You're Chicago bears, Chad. They're plus three against the 49ers like I've talked about. I, I, I'm very suspect that 49ers team. So I'm going to drink the Kool Aid. I'm going to take the plus three. I've been doing it all season with this Bears team. They just play ugly. They can get be getting blown out. They'll find a way to kind of back the word.
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Chad Millman
Better, good, better, best.
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Simon Hunter
And I know I'm banned from talking Tennessee Titan Saints games, but how do I not ride my boy Shock? He's minus two right now on the road against his Tennessee team after a huge Tennessee win. So I might be getting step into a trap here. I'll be patient on that one. I'm gonna grab it just in case it goes up to minus three on shuck on the road. So very public favorite on the road here. But I just, I love the Saints team.
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Chad Millman
Oh, I can't wait till it gets a three and I'm taking the Tennessee Titans. I love this team.
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Simon Hunter
It's probably the right side. That's the person.
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Chad Millman
Love this team. All right, we are waiting on the patriots tonight at +3 and a half. That will be the fifth game of the day for us. We lost with the Lions minus six and a half, the Bills minus ten and a half. One with the Jags plus three and a half And I forgot who else we won with. That's so weird.
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Simon Hunter
You remember who we won with today? We won with the Jags and Carolina.
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Chad Millman
Carolina, that's right. Our favorite team ever. It's like forgetting my favorite child. All right, this has been Sharper Square presented by Hard Rock Bad, part of the Volume Podcast Network. We will be back with our next Shepherd Square on Tuesday to go over the entire NFL slate. We will have two shows next week just because there's a holiday on Thursday. We will have two shows next week. Watch or listen on YouTube at Sharper Square like this video. Subscribe to the channel. Download some Spotify Apple pods wherever you get your pods. Rate Review, Subscribe. Leave us five stars. Say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift. Until next time. Love you.
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