The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Sharp or Square, NFL Week 5 Bets (A Detailed Summary)
Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: Chad Millman & Simon Hunter
Theme: Deep dive into NFL Week 5 betting, evaluating sharp (professional) and square (public) angles, assessing market moves, and identifying the five best contest picks, with candid discourse about game selection, line value, and pro betting perspectives.
Episode Overview
Chad and Simon offer their weekly “Sharp or Square” breakdown ahead of NFL Week 5, focusing on line movements, professional vs. public action, injury news, and identifying five contest picks. They provide candid insight on betting strategy, the fluidity of NFL markets, and which sides they genuinely trust this week. Notable recurring segments include “Sharp Calls”, "Simon Says," “Brass Balls Bet,” round-robin underdog parlays, and personal betting leans.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Market Moves & Injury Impacts
- Texans-Ravens: Early in the week, Simon’s "Simon Says" was Texans +3.5, but line movement (due to Lamar Jackson injury concerns) made it unavailable within an hour.
- Quote: “I have a duty to the people I work for to get the best of the number... I thought I had really good info and was pounding the table about it.” — Simon (22:22)
- Rams-49ers (TNF): Massive line shifts from +3.5 to +9 following news of missing 49ers starters (Purdy, receivers, Bosa).
- Simon and Chad locked Rams at +5.5 earlier in the week; Simon references Shanahan’s poor record as a big underdog.
- Quote: “When Shanahan’s a huge dog like this, in his career, he’s 1-18 straight up.” — Simon (06:48)
2. Sharp Calls – Pros vs. Public
Simon shares his conversations with sharp betting colleagues, flagging which sides the pros love:
- Rams, Cowboys, Saints, Jaguars get professional love.
- Split or surprising: Seahawks, Patriots (sharp money likes), Raiders (pros), Colts (Simon’s preference).
- “A lot of hate this week”—more disagreement than usual between the hosts and other pros. (05:41)
3. Detailed Matchup Discussions
Rams-49ers (Thursday, 00:40–08:47)
- Both hosts bet Rams early, citing Shanahan’s record in these situations and Rams’ ATS record on short weeks.
- Noted: “Glad we’re locked in on this being in our contest.” – Simon (08:22)
Vikings-Browns (In London, 08:47–12:57)
- Dylan Gabriel starting for Browns; line sitting at +3.5. Both lean Browns due to Vikings’ “terrible” O-line, but not confident due to quarterback uncertainty and public side chalk.
- Quote: “This game has so many unknowns now… I’m on the Brown side. It’s just not a game I’m betting confidently.” — Simon (11:16)
Dolphins-Panthers (12:57–16:41)
- Line flip sees Panthers moving from favorites to underdogs. Simon highlights injury concerns (Chuba Hubbard, O-line/outside) for Panthers, but still marginally prefers them +1.5, while noting Dolphins' ability to exploit bad teams despite losing Tyreek Hill.
- Quote: “Tua always beats up on bad teams and just gets ruined by good teams on the road.” — Simon (15:51)
Giants-Saints (16:41–21:39)
- Saints flipped from +2 to -2; Simon pitches Saints despite line move, highly touts Spencer Rattler’s play and "desperation" spot.
- Quote: “I can’t talk about enough… ‘Desperate,’ especially as a professional, is a real thing.” — Simon (19:20)
Texans-Ravens (21:39–25:49)
- Simon was early to the Texans +3.5; with backup QB likely for Baltimore, the hosts aren’t chasing the worst of the number.
- “If you have Houston, you have a good side at the 3.5… I wouldn’t do anything if I have to pick a side now.” — Simon (23:41)
Broncos-Eagles (25:49–30:54)
- Both lean Broncos, citing value at +4.5; discuss Denver's defensive pressure vs. Philly’s O-line struggles, but express nerves about Bo Nix’s road performance as a dog.
- Quote: “There’s just that interior line of this Eagles team… [it] is unstable right now.” — Simon (28:54)
Jets-Cowboys (Brass Balls Bet, 30:54–36:07)
- Chad names Jets +2.5 as “Brass Balls Bet,” despite Jets' ongoing defensive struggles. Cites “ultimate buy low, sell high spot” after primetime perception swings.
- Quote: “You need to... have some balls here, people, to take them. So I love that we’re aligned on this side.” — Simon (35:40)
Seahawks-Buccaneers (39:21–42:45)
- Simon prefers Bucs +3.5 for value, crediting Baker Mayfield's ATS dog numbers; acknowledges pros on Seahawks, but can’t resist the “hook.”
- Quote: “Baker has been so good to me in these exact spots.” — Simon (40:10)
Lions-Bengals (44:35–48:44)
- Simon strongly prefers Lions, citing Bengals' disastrous recent history without Joe Burrow and Detroit's historic ATS stretch. Chad wants to “bet the number, not the team,” leans Bengals at a huge number, but admits no confidence.
- Quote: “This is a train wreck of a team… No team in NFL history in the Super Bowl era has ever done [that] in a two game stretch.” — Simon (45:05)
Commanders-Chargers (50:01–54:31)
- Simon makes Commanders (+2.5) his “Simon Says.” Strong anti-Chargers argument based on Herbert’s pressure struggles and injury-depleted OL.
- Quote: “Love, love, love this game… Call me Simon. Simon says: Give me this Commander’s team.” — Simon (50:04)
Chiefs-Jaguars (54:31–58:07)
- Chad supports Jags +3.5 at home; Simon less keen but recognizes sharp money is heavy on Jacksonville.
- Quote: “The pros love Chad’s number, they love the 3.5. That, to me, is the key here.” — Simon (57:57)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “I have a duty to the people I work for to get the best of the number.” — Simon, addressing timely line moves and professional responsibility (22:22)
- “When Shanahan's a huge dog... in his career, he's 1 in 18 straight up.” — Simon, on 49ers head coach as an underdog (06:48)
- “This is a brass balls bet, you need to just like last week... you gotta have some balls here, people, to take them.” — Simon, on betting Jets vs. Cowboys (35:40)
- “Desperate… as a professional, it’s a real thing.” — Simon, discussing why desperate teams can be good bet-on spots (19:20)
- “Baker has been so good to me in these exact spots.” — Simon, on backing Bucs as a dog (40:10)
- “If you're right, you're a genius. If you're wrong, you're a fucking idiot. Isn’t that everything, though?” — Chad, on results-based betting perception (58:18)
- “This is a train wreck of a team… No team in NFL history… has ever done that in a two game stretch.” — Simon, on Bengals stats (45:05)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [03:50] Sharp Calls: Professional betting action and market read
- [06:48] Rams-49ers Line Analysis & Survivor Discussion
- [11:16] Vikings-Browns International Game, Early Sunday Discussion
- [15:51] Panthers-Dolphins, Injury Impacts & Tua Analysis
- [19:20] Giants-Saints, Rattler, and “Desperation”
- [22:22] Texans-Ravens, Simon’s Info and Line Move
- [28:54] Broncos-Eagles, O-line Concerns
- [35:40] Jets-Cowboys, Brass Balls Bet
- [40:10] Bucs-Seahawks, Why the Hook Matters
- [45:05] Lions-Bengals, Historic Futility
- [50:04] Commanders-Chargers, Simon Says Call
- [57:57] Chiefs-Jaguars, Professional Lean
- [58:58] Biggest Bets Review
- [60:12] Moneyline Underdog Parlay Discussion
- [61:31] Round Robin Moneyline Favorite Parlay, Survivor Pick
- [63:30] Sharp vs. Square, Final Head-to-Head Picks
Moneyline & Survivor Lists
Underdog Round Robin Parlay:
- Panthers
- Jets
- Commanders
- Jaguars
- Browns
Round Robin Favorite Parlay:
- Cardinals
- Bills
- Lions
- Seahawks
- Colts
Survivor Pick:
- Arizona Cardinals
Contest Picks Finalists / Key Leans
- Rams (+5.5 or better) – Locked in early; best contest value.
- Texans (+3.5 in contest) – Great number pre-line move.
- Saints (-1.5 or -2) – Simon’s favorite; “desperate” team, sharp side.
- Jets (+2.5) – Brass Balls Bet; ultimate buy-low, sell-high play.
- Commanders (+2.5) – Simon Says; trust Washington defense to pressure Chargers.
- (Jags +3.5, Broncos +4.5 possibly contending for the final five)
Tone & Speaker Distinction
- Chad Millman: Analytical, slightly risk-averse, likes numbers/market moves, “nutting up” when challenged.
- Simon Hunter: Confident, identifies spots with pro experience, defends sharp/square distinctions, candid about professional pressures and line timing.
Final Thoughts
This episode is a comprehensive blueprint for aspiring contest players and serious NFL bettors, doing real-time risk assessment amidst rapid market changes and injury chaos. It’s a masterclass in not only “what to bet” but how and why the sharpest minds in football betting reach their conclusions—replete with professional humility, actionable takeaways, and signature host banter.
Essential Takeaway:
Betting in the NFL is not static–line moves, injury news, and “desperation” all matter. Trust good numbers, not just team names, and be willing to hold your nose with some ugly, but sharp, sides.
Listen for:
- "Simon Says": Official stamp of confidence (Commanders this week) [50:01].
- "Brass Balls Bet": When the sharpest play feels riskiest—this week, Jets +2.5 [30:54].
- Sharp Calls: The rare week with more “hate” and debate among professionals [05:41].
- Final card-making tension: Saints, Commanders, Jets, Rams, and a battle between Denver and Jacksonville for contest slots.
(End of summary – skip ahead past Hard Rock Bet ads, and tune in for the rapid-fire debates!)
