Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham hits the NASCAR track with Sydney Sweeney!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham Hits the NASCAR Track with Sydney Sweeney!"

Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (Show Me Something)
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham & Kev (with guest West)
Release Date: November 5, 2025
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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Episode Overview

In this episode of "Show Me Something," Sophie Cunningham recaps her eventful weekend at a NASCAR event, where she met actress Sydney Sweeney, mingled with celebrities, and even rode in the pace car. The discussion spins through Sophie’s NASCAR stories, the camaraderie of sports events like the New York Marathon, winter football nostalgia, and listener questions on sportsmanship, friendship, and competitiveness. With their trademark banter and genuine enthusiasm, Sophie, Kev, and West deliver a lighthearted but thoughtful look at sports culture—on and off the field.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Arby’s Taste Test & Thanksgiving Flavors

• [02:40–05:12] The episode kicks off with playful banter about seasonal Arby’s menu items. Sophie reviews the “Gobbler,” a turkey sandwich with layers of Thanksgiving flavors, and an apple pie shake.
• Notable Quote:
  • Sophie: “Like, there’s a lot of, like, it’s like a flavor... flavor bust in your mouth. There’s so many flavors.” ([03:03])
  • Kev: “Cinnamon is an underrated spice. Who wants to challenge me on that?” ([03:55])

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2. Sophie’s NASCAR Adventure & Meeting Sydney Sweeney

• [05:25–12:28] Sophie details her exciting weekend at NASCAR, where she hung out with celebrities, participated in the pre-race VIP experience, attended a Jordan Davis concert, met the NASCAR commissioner and owner, and rode along in the pace car.
• Sophie briefly met Sydney Sweeney: "She's actually so nice. I think she's a very nice girl. Like, I’d be best friends with her." ([06:44])
• The excitement of the event is palpable as Sophie describes the hospitality, the diversity of people she interacted with, and the energy of being at the track.
• Endearing moments include a Purple Heart war veteran receiving the biggest ovation and Sophie relishing the brief, meaningful connections with celebrities and key NASCAR figures.

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3. Reflections on Country Music & Fun with VIPs

• [08:03–11:02] Sophie talks about attending a Jordan Davis (country artist) concert and urges West to check out his music.
• Connections with prominent people, such as the Bass Pro Shops owner Johnny Morris, are exchanged with local pride about Missouri and the tradition of supporting family businesses.

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4. Marathon Magic: The New York City Marathon

• [14:09–25:11] Kev recounts his experience at the NYC Marathon, describing it as a powerful, emotional day filled with positivity and community spirit.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Kev: "It is peak humanity... I saw a sign that said, ‘Go, Mom’ after, like, my second beer, and I started crying." ([14:34])
  • “It is love everywhere. And, like, you see stuff where, like, people wait and, like, their family member runs by and they, like, pop confetti and everyone stops… People’s goals to, like, timing-wise, you know, overrides… hugging your friends and family.” ([17:08])
• Memorable marathon moments: Runners in costume, heartwarming signs ("You’re a hot slut, keep running," [19:16]; “Don’t trust a fart after mile 10,” [20:12]), and bars turning into festive cheering stations.
• The indescribable high of running the NYC Marathon: “Crossing the bridge is pure silence, and then as you get into Manhattan, turn up First Avenue where everyone is… the experience as a runner is... uncomparable to anything you could ever do.” ([21:42])
• Sophie: “Why am I getting the goosebumps?... There’s like three things you’ve said, goosebumps.” ([22:19])

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5. Conversation on Football Stadiums, Roofs, and Cold Weather Games

• [28:07–33:13] The hosts riff on the trend of NFL teams moving to domed stadiums, lamenting the loss of classic cold-weather football.
  • Kev: "I can’t stand that all these outdoor teams are building domes... Football’s an outside sport and it’s beautiful when it’s cold." ([28:48])
  • Sophie: "It gives the home team an advantage... Why would you not embrace that?" ([29:39])
• Pro Tips: Layering and dressing for cold games, ski gear as football attire, and the trick of standing on cardboard to insulate against concrete stadium chill.

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6. Missouri Childhood Memories: Sledding and Snow Days

• [33:13–34:57] The crew shares stories of growing up with wintry weather in Missouri—sledding injuries, wild snowstorm adventures, and the ad hoc dangers and joys of childhood in icy neighborhoods.

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7. Listener Q&A: Sports, Friendship, and Competitiveness

a) Rodeo Art & Decor

• [35:00–36:18] West field a question about the rodeo photograph in his background, sharing his love for Americana and subtle homage to his family's ranching roots in Montana.
  • West: “...It’s just feels like very classic. It's like a classic Americana look... as though I’m not a cowboy, my dad obviously is.” ([35:03])

b) WNBA Physicality

• [36:36–39:16] A listener asks Sophie about the physical nature of the WNBA. She explains the necessity, thrill, and downsides (injuries, feistiness, refereeing challenges), advocating for physicality in moderation and consistency in officiating.
• Sophie: “It’s awesome to see strong women being able to play physical and showing young boys, young girls that it’s okay to work hard, to sweat, to be physical, but also to enjoy what you do and love what you do.” ([37:31])

c) Friendship Phone Etiquette

• [39:57–42:56] A caller asks about friends multitasking during calls. Kev delivers tough love, emphasizing gratitude for busy friends making time, while Sophie suggests communicating needs for undivided attention if the relationship allows.
• Kev: “Expecting her to be sitting still on her couch with no sounds in the background is asking a little much… I just don’t think Sophie or I would ever have the time…” ([41:36])

d) Competitiveness in Daily Life

• [42:56–47:26] On channeling competitiveness, Sophie describes learning to control and moderate her drive, learning from failure, and understanding when to be competitive.
  • Sophie: “It’s awesome to be competitive… but you don’t want to be that in everything you do in life. That’s not healthy.” ([43:27])
• Kev shares he’s more competitive with himself, striving for personal growth: "I like to prove things… If you do that enough, something kind of sticks." ([44:50])
• Both agree on the importance of balance and learning to relax.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Sophie on Arby’s: “Like, there’s a lot of, like, it’s like a flavor… flavor bust in your mouth.” ([03:03])
• Sophie on Sydney Sweeney: “She’s actually so nice… I’d be best friends with her.” ([06:44])
• Kev, emotional at the NYC Marathon: “It is peak humanity... I saw a sign that said, ‘Go, Mom’ after, like, my second beer, and I started crying.” ([14:34])
• Kev, on outdoor football games: “I can’t stand that all these outdoor teams are building domes… Football’s an outside sport and it’s beautiful when it’s cold.” ([28:48])
• Sophie on WNBA’s physicality: “It’s awesome to see strong women being able to play physical… but also to enjoy what you do and love what you do.” ([37:31])

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Important Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:40 — Arby’s Gobbler review
• 05:25 — Sophie recounts meeting Sydney Sweeney at NASCAR
• 09:57 — Interactions with NASCAR officials and celebs
• 14:09 — Kev’s NYC Marathon experience begins
• 19:09 — Funniest marathon signs and stories
• 28:07 — Discussion on domed NFL stadiums and nostalgia for cold-weather games
• 33:13 — Childhood Missouri sledding stories
• 35:00 — Listener Q&A: The story behind West’s rodeo picture
• 36:36 — Listener Q&A: WNBA physicality vs. NBA
• 39:57 — Listener Q&A: Friend multitasking during calls
• 42:56 — Listener Q&A: Channeling competitiveness in daily life

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Tone and Style

The episode is friendly, humorous, sometimes irreverent, and always authentic. The tone balances lighthearted banter ("Cinnamon is an underrated spice. Who wants to challenge me on that?") with heartfelt sincerity (Kev’s marathon story, Sophie’s advocacy for women in sports). There’s a strong sense of camaraderie, regional pride, and a love for sports as a communal experience that transcends mere competition.

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Summary

This episode is a freewheeling celebration of sports, community, and the ties that bind people—be it at a NASCAR track, a marathon finish line, or childhood sledding in Missouri. Sophie’s down-to-earth tales, Kev’s marathon reverie, and listener-driven discussions showcase the joys and complexities of being a passionate sports fan and competitor, all wrapped in a charismatic, approachable package.

Transcript

[Sophie]

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[West]

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[Kev]

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[Sophie]

Okay? And here's my thing too. I'm 100% agreeing with you.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

And secondly, it gives the home team an advantage. Like when, when you're used to it and people have to come in there. Why would you not embrace that? We're back. Oh, I was trying to start a.

[Kev]

Slow clap and Sophie wasn't with it at all. Welcome back to the Show Me Something podcast sponsored by the wonderful good brothers and sisters at Arby's. Put your shakes up. I actually, I finished this before we started recording.

[Sophie]

I know, and I already started eating.

[Kev]

My gobbler can I get a review on the Gobi?

[Sophie]

The Gobi, dude, honestly? Yeah. Let me turn you up real quick, because you're a little low. Okay, so, Gobbler. Yeah. Take a bite. Like, there's a lot of, like, it's like a flavor. Flavor bust in your mouth. There's so many flavors.

[Kev]

I mean, Sophie, come on.

[Sophie]

Well.

[Kev]

It'S a lot of turkey that's gonna bust in my mouth.

[Sophie]

Well, but. But, like, look at all that. There's, like, onions. There's so much different type of stuff on there. I'm. I don't know. Do you. Do you feel the bust in your mouth?

[Kev]

Girl, do I?

[Sophie]

See, I wasn't wrong. There's just like a. You don't feel anything, and then boom. Well, west already drank his, but I feel like this apple pie shake is pretty damn good.

[Kev]

No, it's. It's.

[Sophie]

It's.

[Kev]

Cinnamon is an underrated spice. Who wants to challenge me on that?

[Sophie]

That's actually really good if you. But it's pretty damn. Like, it tastes like an apple pie. Like, if you like sweet.

[West]

Yeah.

[Kev]

I also. Here's the thing. Star of the show the Gobbler. It.

[Sophie]

It.

[Kev]

It's very Thanksgiving. Cornbread and cranberry. Like, cranberry. There's not enough, like, cranberry sauce on sandwiches besides a. It's either if someone commits to doing it, like Arby's did, or when you're doing leftover sandwiches the day after Thanksgiving, like, with, like, Hawaiian rolls, that's when you put cranberry sauce on stuff. But, like, this. It should be on more things is basically all I'm saying.

[Sophie]

Well, you know, I think they're coming out with the club, too, which is like, another deep fried turkey sandwich. And instead of, like, you know, like, crispy onions on, like, Thanksgiving, like, green bean casserole and stuff, like, that's my favorite. But the club, I think, instead of the crispy onions, I'm pretty sure has bacon. Crispy bacon.

[Kev]

Oh, wow. This is going to turn into an ASMR podcast.

[Sophie]

I know, I know.

[Kev]

Can we keep eating Arby's for every single one? Oh, okay. Holy shit. Thanks. Arby's. Yeah. How's your weekend? We're recording this one early, guys. It's a Monday.

[Sophie]

Finally. Yeah, honestly, I had one of the better weekends that I've had in a really long time.

[Kev]

Like, wait, you met Sydney Sweeney?

[Sophie]

What? What are you saying.

[Rusty]

Guys?

[Kev]

So we met Sydney Sweeney and tweeted and said one of us left our tits at home. Incredibly funny.

[Sophie]

Dude, I thought that was hilarious. And so many people, like, thought I was being serious. And I was like, dude, this is not a competition. My tits are clearly way better than hers.

[Kev]

Exactly.

[West]

Did you.

[Kev]

Was it a quick. Was it a quick picture, or did you, like, meet her?

[Sophie]

So. So let me tell you about my weekend real quick, because I. I'm not kidding. I think a lot of people who go to events and, like, appearances, like, you can attest to this that the majority of time, they're really not that fun. Like, you have to kind of, like, fake the fun. I had a fucking blast at nascar. Like, I think those are my people. That's where I belong. We went, like, three or four years ago together. This was it.

[Kev]

Was it same track and everything?

[Sophie]

No, same track, but way better in every other aspect.

[Kev]

Okay.

[Sophie]

It was.

[Kev]

Was that because you was not that fun that day?

[Sophie]

No, I just think, like, the people I went with went with, like, actual nascar. Like, oh, it was like. It was so fun. Like, I don't even know how to explain it to you. So I just had a complete blast. But I went. How I met Sydney. She's actually so nice. I think she's a very nice girl. Like, I'm. I be best friends with her.

[Kev]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think she's controversial for a lot of things that don't have to do with her personality, if that makes sense. Like her boobs or the American eagle thing or, like, a lot of stuff that I think she hasn't act. It's, like, not coming from her. It's like, yeah, the. The weird nuance behind everything she does. I agree that to say, I would. I would imagine she's, like, very cool, super nice.

[Sophie]

And honestly, I think the majority of people that you do meet are really nice. And so we were there and it was like, we just talked for, like, I'd say a minute, two minutes. Like, it was really quick because everyone, like, there was celebrities and VIPs, and so we were all kind of doing our own thing. So it was a very quick, like, hey, how are you? So nice to meet you. Like, big fan, big fan, like, all that type of stuff. And so she knew who you were. I. I don't know.

[Kev]

I mean, it's cool if you did.

[Sophie]

Well, I don't know, but you know how, like, everyone, like, when you're around that, everyone's like, oh, like, love. Yeah. Like, yeah. Like, I don't know. You know what I mean? But super nice. And so we just got a quick pick, and it was fun. We were in the vip. They introduced the drivers. Like, the sponsors are in there. Like, important people are in this meeting, but they do it before every race. And it was, like, the coolest experience ever. Like, it was so fun. And so there were celebs, there was VIP guests, there were sponsors, all the drivers, there was a couple fans. But the guy who got the biggest ovation, which, it was so cool, I couldn't even do him justice. But he is, like, a Purple Heart winner. He served for, like, I don't know how many years, but he has, like, all the accolades that someone going to war could possibly have. But he got, like, the greatest ovation, and it was just, like, so cool. I don't even know how to explain it. But I. So we did that. I went to the Jordan Davis concert, which he's awesome. If you guys like country music, do you know who that is? West. I'm going to send you some because you'd actually like it. Like, it's, like, fun country, you know, I'm down. Yeah. Yeah. And then I got to do the pace car. Like, it was sick. Awesome. I don't even know how to explain it. Like, the whole time, I was just happy. Like, I was so content. I was so happy. It's awesome. Do you have to.

[Kev]

In the pace car? You're not. You weren't driving it. Were you just in it?

[Sophie]

No, but I asked if I could drive it.

[Kev]

And it doesn't go fast, right? It's just one lap, and then they. And then it gets outta the way, and then everyone goes.

[Sophie]

So we did five laps, so it's like them all kind of warming up. It was so cool. Um, there was one time we went really fast because they all practice, like, going into the pit and whatnot, and so we have to keep up. Like, with them, it was just, like, the coolest experience ever. Then I also got to meet the commissioner, Steve Phelps. He was super nice. His wife was.

[Kev]

If I was a commissioner of any. Any league, I would. I would run away from you.

[Sophie]

Oh, yeah? Well, listen to this. Speaking of that, before I met their commission, also, the owner of NASCAR is a badass woman. I didn't really get to meet her, but I kind of gave her, like, a. Oh, fire.

[Kev]

Hey, yeah, that's dope.

[Sophie]

But someone who is friends with Kathy came up to me while I was, like, meeting, greeting, taking photos, like, so what could she do better? And I was like. And so I was like, well, so I told him a couple. I was like, all right, I gotta go. So that was kind of funny. But I'm fine with answering that, but it was just like, kind of, hey, time and place. Like, everyone's having a good time. That was, like the VIP when you meet everybody. Um, red carpet. So it was, like, kind of a weird time, but I was like, hey, like, it is what it is. Here it is. So I kind of laid out, like, two or three things, and I was like, all right, gotta go. Also did, like, the NASCAR pre show with Alex Weber, which. These girls are beautiful. Like, NASCAR people are really pretty. You need to look her up. And Carla Metz, but they did a phenomenal job.

[Kev]

Any hot drivers, Wesley?

[Sophie]

How come up to my belly button.

[Kev]

Oh, they're small guys.

[Sophie]

Yeah, really small. Oh, speaking of small guys.

[Kev]

Like jockeys.

[Sophie]

No. Bigger than jockeys. Bigger than jockeys.

[Rusty]

Okay.

[Kev]

Middle ground.

[Sophie]

Speaking of kind of smaller guys with a big bank account. Met Johnny Morris.

[Kev]

Bass pro owner Johnny Morris. Oh, I would have worn my bass pro hat.

[Sophie]

Dude. I.

[Kev]

Wait, wait, wait. I. I do want to say I think Bass pro. Kev, will you look this up? Wow. She's pulling a west right now. The runoff camera. This is a signature west pod move. You just stole your move. Sick. I would like to say I do think the owner of Bass Pro Shops is from. Sorry.

[Ad]

Fuck.

[Kev]

Shit. This turkey gobbler. Yeah, he's from. I think the first Bass Pro Shops was in Springfield, Missouri.

[Sophie]

It is.

[Kev]

Whoa. Yeah, Right?

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

There you are. Springfield.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

So we love a. We love a Missouri. A local Missouri mom and pop store. Like, Bass pro dude support small business.

[Sophie]

He gave me this himself.

[Kev]

You sign it? Little sharpie?

[Sophie]

No, I didn't think about that. But it's okay. I just had a great weekend. Like, I'm. I'm really happy, so I'm fulfilled in many ways.

[Kev]

And how much longer in Arizona do you have? I feel like you keep feeling like you're about to move back, and then you're still there.

[Sophie]

So my. This is probably, like, my busiest November. So I'm, like, here, and then I'm going to Indiana for a couple days. Going back to Missouri, Florida, New York, Phoenix, California. Missouri?

[Kev]

What's in California?

[Sophie]

A basketball tournament. I'm just gonna pop by for, like, Thanksgiving. No.

[West]

Yeah.

[Kev]

You can't.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Wait, was it like 3v3 or something? Cool.

[Sophie]

No, it's like 5v5. Men's basketball.

[Kev]

Oh. It's like, a real deal.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

You ever been to Hoopfest in Spokane, Washington? Have you ever heard of Hoopfest?

[Sophie]

I don't know. I don't know if I have.

[Kev]

It's like, I don't know if it's the biggest. I just know this because everyone in Montana who was from, like, the Washington area all talked about this. It's like the biggest 3v3. It's like an outdoor basketball tournament that, like, everyone. Yeah, it's like fire. Have you. Have you played with any girls who into Gonzaga?

[Sophie]

No, but I'm friends with the Worth twins. They're one of them. They're, like, super tall. They're. Well, I wouldn't say really friends. I'm like, I'm. I know them through, like, social media and stuff like that, but they're super nice. Lee and Jen.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Awesome.

[Kev]

They go. Are they going to Gonzaga?

[Sophie]

They did. They did go to Gonzaga. Now, one of them married Corey. He plays in the NBA. And they, like, live out here. Yeah. Beautiful girls. Tall. So they have their, like, own clothing brand because they're so tall because they can't find pants. Okay, so enough about me. I want to hear about the New York marathon. And I saw so many people posting.

[Kev]

Sophie, I'm gonna cry. It is like, I've been crying. I've been crying all morning watching the videos. Really? I can. I cannot. I cannot emphasize what a, like, a special day it is. It is. Well, just, like, everything in. I don't know. There's so much just negativity everywhere and, like, people who are freaks and, like, it's just. Everything's crazy.

[Sophie]

Yes.

[Kev]

It is pure. Like, it is peak humanity. And it is just. I saw a sign that said, go, mom. After, like, my second beer, and I started crying.

[Sophie]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Kev]

People have signs that say, like, I don't know you, but I'm proud of you. Like, it is. I cannot. I cannot. I just got the how special of a day? No, it is, like, And. And you see every type of person doing it, which I think is what makes it such a special.

[Sophie]

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[Kev]

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[Sophie]

That seems like it's like a very positive, just like a full of love event.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Like, there's just love everywhere.

[Kev]

It is love everywhere. And, like, you see stuff where, like, people wait and, like, their family member runs by and they, like, pop confetti and everyone stops. TikTok. And the other thing that I think is a testament to what New York City Marathon is, is, like, a lot of people running have times that they want to beat or, like, they want to PR or they're trying to be sub four, like, whatever it is. But like, that being said, they still stop, hug their friends, hug their family, turn around to wave to people, take a shot in the crowd.

[Sophie]

Like.

[Kev]

Like, it's just like hugging your friends and family and saying hi to people who are supporting you, like, over rides. Like, people's goals to, like, like, timing wise, you know? Was there any with Jesse?

[Sophie]

Oh, yeah. Tell me, tell me.

[Kev]

I met up with Jesse and Kyle and we went to the Upper east side and saw Carl. I think it was Mile. Oh, Carl. Yeah, Carl Randy. So one time for Carl.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome.

[Kev]

And we found him and, like, just kind of had like a big family group hug when we saw him and cheer him on. But then, like, the other thing that's obviously cool and like, I love this is that all the bars that are on the roads that the marathon are on are a circus. And, like, there's no, like, everyone's drinking outside. It's fucking crazy.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

And so you just pop into bars and get a beer and then you track the app. Like, when your friends are, like, gonna Be there in so cool. Five minutes. Then you go back outside to the fence, wait for your friends to pop in, give them a hug, then go back in. And, like, everyone's there to, like, cheer on their friends, you know?

[Sophie]

I love that.

[Kev]

It is. I. Yeah, I could talk about this forever, but now, day after, I'm getting all the videos with, like, cinematic audio and it's like everyone hugging each other and stuff.

[Sophie]

Was there. Was there any, like, funny signs though? Or like, anything? Like, people wearing funny costumes or, like.

[Kev]

Yeah, and people do costumes. One of them said, my friend Matt, he was the Bachelor a few years ago.

[Sophie]

He. Who's that?

[Kev]

He ran. His name's Matt James. He played receiver at Wake Forest.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I know. I think I'm gonna do a food review with him next time I'm in New York.

[Kev]

Yeah, yeah, you should. Yeah, you should. Uh, but he ran. He had like 20 roses and he gave them out, like, along the route. And so, like, he gave a final one on, like, the final turn. Like, it's just so fun. I saw a sign that said, some of them were like, so insane. But, like, this one literally says, you're a hot slut, keep running. And like, I'm sure that's for her friend. Like, they're like, they're just goofy. We saw this one on a dog. Is. The dog's name is Kevin. I said, who's a good runner?

[Sophie]

Oh, see, I love. I just love that.

[West]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Wait, this one is the one that just says, I'm so proud of you.

[Sophie]

Oh, and the people running. Great video.

[Kev]

And so, like, there's a cute one where like a kid had one that said hit for like a power boost. So everyone runs by, runs by and hits the kids sign for like a power up or whatever. There's a lot of ones that just say, like, don't shit your pants. Don't trust a fart after like mile 10. Like, stuff like that. But it's. It's just. It's like, truly the best. The other cool thing with New York is everyone. We all live so high up that the streets are crowded, but then people are on their fire escapes cheering and watching. Also, um, perfect weather, like, oh, it.

[Sophie]

Was just a perfect fall day.

[Kev]

Literally could not be more perfect for all day while there's football and the TV's inside. And it. I just, It's. Anyone who has experienced it knows how cool it is. And like, I. I'm obsessed.

[Sophie]

Well, good. I feel like that's like everyone's same response. I think everyone should maybe go Go watch it or run in it at least once in their life is what I'm hearing.

[Kev]

It does make you want to run because you, like, just the support from strangers is just so powerful and like, it's gotta be such an adrenaline rush to like, get that. And so when you end, they end in Manhattan. I don't know if you knew this, but the New York City Marathon goes through all five boroughs.

[Sophie]

I.

[Kev]

So it's like, starts in Staten Island, Brooklyn, Queens, right into Manhattan. So then when they come to Manhattan, they cross a bridge, obviously. So then it's like, I just saw this because I just saw a TikTok on it and it was like crossing the bridge is pure silence. And then as you get into Manhattan, turn up First Avenue where like, everyone is. And so you go from bridge silence to entering the busiest street in all of New York City and people cheering for you. And like, it was about how like, the. That experience as a runner is. Is like you uncomparable to anything you could ever do.

[Sophie]

Why am I getting the goosebumps? Like every. There's like three things you've said goosebumps.

[Kev]

I've tried not to cry four times. Oh, my God. And I saw this other tick tock this morning. Oh, cry. It was like a first grade teacher and all our kids were there and they were all high.

[Sophie]

Oh.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

I love it.

[Kev]

It's fucking so crazy.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

I'm just sending to you make you watch everything.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Do it. And the first graders and like their parents, like actually go and do that. But how fun. She. Dude, she comes back. She's ahead and she comes back.

[Kev]

That's what I'm saying is people turn. Like, I saw a video of Carl doing it where like someone yelled at him and he's like, way ahead. He turned around to go back and it's like. That is really. What? Oh, I'm emo. Oh, it's so. It's so awesome.

[Sophie]

Why does that make you emo crying? Oh, emotional.

[Kev]

No, I mean, like, emotional.

[Sophie]

I was like, why are you. I was like, why are you emo?

[Kev]

So.

[Sophie]

No, I have tears in my eyes too. I'm not even gonna lie. I love those types of videos.

[Kev]

So good. And then of course, there's also the videos of like, the last people to cross at the end of the night where there's still people there.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Cheering them on. Yeah. But then, like, if you're still out for like, whether it's Sunday night football or kind of like when the sun's setting.

[Sophie]

Yep.

[Kev]

The whole city is Full of people with their. Like, the capes they give you and their medals, like, with their family. And so it's just like. It is. It is.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Just a day for love and support and, like, it's just so fucking cool.

[Sophie]

Okay. I know. We're. You know what I actually do love about that too, is, like, it's also New York, where there's so much, like, diversity. There's so many things that draw people's, like, different attention and so many, like, different beliefs, like cultures, but they all come together for this. I think that's really cool and special.

[Kev]

Well, yeah, and because a lot of people run with the flags of, like, the country that their families are from and so cool. Just. Or like, their char. Like, it just is. You're so correct on that. And that's why it's so cool, because it's every type of person that made me hungry. Yeah.

[Sophie]

Sorry.

[Kev]

I'll talk about this for a thou. I'll talk about this for a thousand hours. But it was. It was so fun. And the last thing I'll say is it is so chaotic that sometimes you do miss your friends. Like, like, the app lags, or you don't. You get there, like, right before they pass, or they're. They're slower, faster than you thought. I crushed yesterday. Saw Carl, saw my boy Aiden, my friend Alyssa. Like, I just really timed up everything at the right time and, like, got to see everyone and had interactions with them on the fence. So it was.

[Sophie]

That's awesome.

[Kev]

We were, like, efficient yesterday and seeing everyone, so that was good.

[Sophie]

Because I didn't. Yeah, you. Were you there all day then?

[Kev]

Yeah, we went up probably 10:00am and then just hung out until.

[Sophie]

So did you watch?

[Kev]

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[Sophie]

I was going to say, did you watch the Chiefs game then? Or not really.

[Kev]

It was like on. I. I was having enough fun and I. Sometimes the Chiefs games, especially the Bills, it stresses me out so much and I care so much that I. It's almost easier to disassociate and be like, I'll check in, but I'm not going to, like, let this dictate my whole mood for the day. And we kind of didn't play well. The whole game looked like. So it was probably better for me that I didn't, like, stay dialed into every snap because that way I could still have a fun day with my friends and not be like, bummed out because the Chiefs were like, did we lose?

[Sophie]

I didn't watch it.

[Kev]

Yeah. Which, yeah. Kind of gross. I mean, the Bills are obviously good. It's just one of those things. But I was talking to someone and I mean, per part of the course, we lose to them in the regular season and then beat them in the playoffs. So, like, have win. Yeah. Enjoy it. A lot of Bill's gear outside yesterday, too.

[West]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Well, it was that the last time they're playing in that stadium, right?

[Kev]

Yeah. Unless. Unless. Unless playoffs, playoffs. And then. Then Chiefs go back. But like, yeah, yeah, they're building a new one right next door. I will say the Bill Stadium. I. I don't know if you've been there or not, but it's very. It feels like a college stadium. It's not like, it's not like, overwhelmingly huge, but they're like, it's always going to be sold out. They're always Going to like be loud and have fun. It's very college atmosphere. And so now they're gonna, I'm sure this what, of a smaller stadium?

[Sophie]

No. Like, what's the purpose of building a new one if they have such good history there?

[Kev]

Because I, I think it's fucking stupid that all these teams are doing it, but it's. I mean, assuming they can make more money, sell more tickets, try to host a Super Bowl, Buffalo has shitty weather. So then like, they can close the roof if they want, which I could soapbox for so long. I can't stand that all these outdoor teams are building domes. Like the, the most picture perfect, like football photographs are snow games in like late November in like Cleveland or Denver, whatever, in Chicago. And they're all building fucking domes and they're going to close the shit when it gets cold. And like, it just, it makes me sound like an old, like cranky guy. But like, doesn't, don't care. Football's an outside sport and it's beautiful when it's cold.

[Sophie]

Okay. And here's my thing too. I'm 100% agreeing with you.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

And secondly, it gives the home team an advantage. Like when, when you're used to it and people have to come in there. Why would you not embrace that shit?

[Kev]

Couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more. The other thing too is that now you make so much money if you can host a Super bowl. And they don't give Super Bowls to cities in cold weather elements because obviously the super bowl is the first like second weekend of February and they did it one time in New York and I think it was like really freezing cold and people complained. So now teams were building domes so that.

[Sophie]

Dude, people are gonna complain.

[Kev]

Yeah, whatever.

[Sophie]

Do you remember last year there might have been two years ago, like it was a super cold game in Kansas city and like 15 people got like.

[Kev]

Like, yeah, I went to that game. I went to that game with like Kyle and Thomas and all them frostbite.

[Sophie]

Frostbite. Like so many people got frostbite because.

[Kev]

All these dudes got drunk. One got drunk and took their shirts off to be funny and then like got hurt and then.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Two, there are people who like don't actually know how to prepare for like freezing cold weather.

[Sophie]

Correct.

[Kev]

There's a lot of things you have to do. And I will say this, if my dad is not anything, he will always be a dad who made sure my brother and I dressed correctly for cold weather events. Like, he's the most over prepared. Like Chiefs cold Weather layer, ski trip guy ever like.

[Sophie]

So there it is right there. It's the ski trip. And then you just use your ski stuff for football games.

[Kev]

Yep. So I've had this drilled into my head forever. But you got like starts with your toes. If your feet are. If your feet are okay, you're gonna be okay. Okay. So you gotta have on a good boot and a good. A nice expensive wool sock. Yeah, you just layer like four layers of cotton socks. That doesn't work for you. Agree? No. Bring some foot warmers, shake them up. Put those right in your boots and you're gonna be so good. Another big pro tip. If you're heading to a game and it's cold out, don't put your layers on or your thermals on until you get out of the car. If you put your thermals on in the. On the way there, you're gonna be hot as shit sweaty. And then you're gonna get outside and everything's gonna be like wet and sticky. And then you're gonna be absolutely freezing.

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[Sophie]

And then are we all taught us being from Missouri. Because I feel like this is the same shit that our families taught me.

[Kev]

Yeah. And then. And then obviously you want your head to be warm, so make sure you bring a beanie. Don't just wear a baseball cap. And there you go. And sometimes these stadiums you can bring in cardboard so that your feet aren't on the concrete. That is also cold. And then that transmits the cold and onto your boots and your feet. So people layer up.

[Sophie]

But never done that one. Yeah, never done that.

[Kev]

Yeah. That's a good one. Dude, I don't know how to explain this. There's a massive, just like random hill in the middle of Columbia. And it's like very random. It's so random. It's like in the middle of a neighborhood. And then there's a little pond right next to it. And then the road is like fenced between. You just sit up there and then you can just bomb it.

[Sophie]

It's a huge. But it's like when I think people are thinking like, oh, it's probably big hill. It is a like. It is like the. I Don't even know how to explain. It is like this. And it's long. It's like a huge hill. Random as hell.

[Kev]

So sick. Lucas little brother broke his leg on that hill, and my dad made him walk up the hill. So that's a fun family story for us. He was like, you're good. You're good. And, like, held his hand and made him let him walk up the fucking hill. And I think he would. I think he had, like a tib and fib break.

[Sophie]

Oh, no. So it was bad.

[Kev]

Yeah, well, he put his leg down to. To stop himself.

[Sophie]

Oh, no. Yeah. So I remember Woodville, and I also remember. I don't know if I was a freshman or sophomore. And this is like, so dangerous looking back, but it was like. It was that huge snowstorm and, like, schools canceled for legit. Like a week and a half, two weeks. Like, it was a lot because it was more for like, like, the people who rode the bus. It was too cold for them to stay. Stand outside. And so we put two or three sleds on the back. I think of, like, Adam, he's truck. And we went through the neighborhoods and we were just sliding on the roads.

[Kev]

But, like, you had it so awesome.

[Sophie]

So fun. But you got to, like, dodge mailboxes. Like, I'm sure there was, like, in the road that was so dangerous. Like, I looked back, I'm like, what were we doing?

[Kev]

Should we rip it? Tell me something.

[Sophie]

There is something do.

[Kev]

Hey, this is Rusty. Enjoy the podcast. You guys are hilarious. My question's for Wes. What's the backstory on the rodeo picture that's behind you on all your podcasts? Thanks. Bye. Hell yeah, Rusty. So obviously this isn't my picture. So there's not like a story where, like, I went and took this or whatever. I got it from a place called House of Spoils. I think the black and white and the, like, hint of American flag with a horse is just like. It just feels like very classic. It's like a classic Americana look and as though I'm not a cowboy. My dad obviously, like, is. And so I like to keep a little bit of, like, a little western feel into this new apartment. But given the background, it's gotta be like, it's a small town rodeo in Montana or Wyoming. I guess if I read the advertisements on the fence, I could probably, like, figure out where this is. But I. I just really like the piece and I thought, it's outside, black and white, one flag. She's got, like, frilled chaps on. I Don't know.

[Sophie]

Just like.

[Kev]

It's just dope.

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[Kev]

I actually like it a lot, Rusty. Thank you for asking, though. But House of Spoils, shout out to them. They do a lot of, like, cool art. So we can pug them, we can plug them.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

That was our first voicemail today. Got two, three more here for you guys. All right, here we go.

[Rusty]

Hi, Sophie. Hi, West. I'm a real big fan of your podcast and watched every one of them, sometimes twice. And I think Sophie is just a role model for younger people. Not just girls, but boys as well. She does a great job. Anyway, my question is, I've been watching the WNBA now for, I guess, about two years, and it sure seems like it's a lot more physical than the NBA games. And I'm just wondering what your perception of that is. And I guess there's arguments, you know, both ways, but just watching it, I think maybe it's the passion of the people involved in the wnba. But I'm just curious about your thoughts. Anyway, keep up the great work. I look forward to it. It's one of the things I really look forward to watching every single week. Thank you.

[Sophie]

Well, that's kind of nice that he looks forward to hearing from us.

[Kev]

That's a good question, though.

[Sophie]

It is.

[Kev]

Is for you.

[Sophie]

I think the league is very physical, and I think it needs to be that way. Like, I'm all for that. I think that's part of being a pro. It's about being at the next level. It's about being around elite level athletes, and it's awesome to see strong women being able to play physical and showing young boys, young girls that it's okay to work hard, to sweat, to be physical, but also to enjoy what you do and love what you do. And so for me, I think this. This last season, you know, I think that when it comes to maybe the physicality around the league, maybe it was a little bit too much. I think that the. What's considered a foul in the rule book maybe needs to change a little bit because the refs always kind of go back like, well, that's. This is what it is in the handbook, and so this is why we call it. But I think that the handbook maybe needs to evolve a little bit and get with the times, because I feel like the majority of the season was how physical playoffs normally are. So playoff basketball is known to be more physical. You're not going to get calls. It's just a harder game. And everyone knows that. Ask any. Any league around the world, playoffs are just different. But for us, I think you just saw a lot more injuries. You saw maybe just a lot more feistiness amongst the players and the coaches, a lot more people being vocal about it just because they thought that there was points where it was out of control, where we just need to dial in a little bit. I think we should stay physical, but I think that the rest kind of need to be more disciplined from the beginning of the game and be more consistent, if that makes sense. So I don't know if that answered your question, but there's a lot of thoughts surrounding our physicality, the refs, how the game should be called in the regular season versus playoffs. So I don't know if that helped.

[Kev]

Sophie learned some karate moves from west last episode, so you guys got to be careful out there.

[Sophie]

Eagle Bear. I forgot what else. Yeah.

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[Kev]

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[Sophie]

That's what it is. Tiger.

[Kev]

Yeah, Tiger.

[Sophie]

Dude, have you ever seen someone in a fight like this? Yeah.

[Kev]

No offense, Kev, but I've seen a lot of Asian guys do that in movies. It's.

[Rusty]

It's.

[Kev]

It's our go to. It's our go to. That's why. That's why I taught it west first. That's what it started. This one.

[Sophie]

No, see, you did it. You did it right, Kev. He went like this. Yeah.

[Kev]

Put a little more swag on his. Put a little more RB sauce on his. All right, guys, here's the next call for you here. That's funny.

[Caller]

Hey, West. Hey, Sophie. Okay, so here's my situation. I have a friend. She calls me probably twice a month to catch up, but when she's on the phone, she's always doing something else. Like she's driving. So I hear the air conditioning wind blowing on the line, or she hits a stretch where the reception is breaking up, or she shopping and talking to the cashier or salesperson while I'm on the phone with her. She means well, but it's a little annoying. So would you say something to her about these distractions or just suck it up because she means well? All right. Love your. Love your podcast.

[Sophie]

See ya.

[Kev]

Here's the thing. People in this life are very, very busy if this friend of yours is making the time to talk to you. I think. And I don't want to be harsh here, but I think you should be appreciative of the fact that she's taking the time to talk to you. I think expecting her to be sitting still on her couch with no sounds in the background is asking a Little much of your friend. I think you don't have to talk if you're kind of annoyed with the distractions and maybe you can, like avoid the calls, but I don't. I think asking someone to dedicate their physical selves to your phone calls is a little steep if I'm going to be totally honest. And you sound nice, but I just, I don't think Sophie or I would ever have the time to like, call each other and not have other things going on in the background. It's kind of just like how it is.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I will say too, depending on your relationship, if you guys are talking like every day or at least every week, that you should maybe feel comfortable enough to be like, hey, can I just have like five minutes of your undivided attention and no distractions. Like, if you really feel a certain way, you could always go that route. I will say like, my mom, she literally is like, Wes said she is going 24 7. And so I only get phone calls when she's pretty much like in the car driving. So, like, there's always back roads are. It's breaking up there you. So I just feel like a lot of people have a lot on their plate, but if you do feel a certain way, just have the conversation. That can't hurt anything.

[Kev]

I also think if this, if this was something like you reached out to her and you were like, hey, I'm in need of advice or I need you to hear me out, or I need you to like, give me XYZ on something that's super important to you, then maybe then she owes you or like some undivided attention. But if you guys are just doing weekly catch ups, like, she's gonna be in the fucking car. You know what I mean? Like, that's just kind of how it goes. Yeah, my dad's called me from on a fucking horse for the last five years of my life, so best of luck. She does mean well. So just try not to, you know, let it ruin your phone calls. That was tough love, Kev. That's the first time we had to give some tough love.

[Caller]

Hey, guys, I'm doing a research project on how the competitive nature of the game impacts our daily lives. So I myself am a competitor and I grew up, like, doing sports and everything. How does your competitive nature also impact your daily lives? Thanks, guys. Love you guys and love the podcast. Bye.

[Kev]

Great question. So if you can go first.

[Sophie]

So I feel like I'm super competitive in everything I do, but I think that I have. I talked to a Sports psych guy. And I think that I've learned to channel it. And so I think that everything has to be competition. I think maybe from a young age, that's where like, a lot of kids found, like, they belonged or found that that's when their friends wanted to be around them more. Their parents were proud of them. And so there's like a lot of attachment to being competitive because it leads to probably success or applause or anything like that. And so I just kind of learned to like, unlearn and decomputerize what I've always been taught. And so for me, I think it's awesome to be competitive. Like, you want to be your best self. You want to push yourself to be the best version of yourself. But I think also with being competitive, that means you're going to fail and you're going to learn things, maybe sometimes the hard way, but I don't think that's a bad thing. I think failure is actually a really good thing. And so for me, I think it's channeling it. Like, you don't want to be a competitive person in absolutely everything you do in life. That's not healthy. But I do think that a lot of companies, a lot of people, they like competitive people because they know that they're going to work hard and they're going to push themselves to be successful. So I think it's. It's a fine line to walk of being it, but also knowing when to kind of let down your guard and not be competitive.

[Kev]

I am much like, I'm like, pretty chill, I would say, in most things in life. But like, obviously as a, I like athlete, I, I have it in me. I think I more so am competitive maybe with myself. I, I just like to like, prove things, and I always have and kind of like reach for things that I didn't think I could ever do. And then like, usually if you do that enough, something kind of sticks. I just. Okay.

[Rusty]

Oh, God.

[Kev]

I'm already cringing out from what I'm about to say. But, but I've seen, I've seen this quote before and it's shoot for the moon because you're bound to land amongst the stars.

[Sophie]

Oh, gag me. Just gag.

[Kev]

But that said, though, I, I think it helps because you, if you're always trying to be the best and keep doing new things and always trying to win at every little thing you do, I think you build up a confidence that you can do these things and then you kind of just always keep pushing yourself to like, accomplish things that you never thought you would before. I know this is, like, very broad, but I agree. And I'm surprised Sophie said that being competitive in every aspect of your life is unhealthy, because I would agree it is. It's okay to, like, relax. And I think if you're life's not always going to be perfect and you can't let when things go, like, wrong, like, ruin your whole fucking day and week and year, you know? So it's good finding a balance for, like, what works for you. Wait, but I will say if. Well, I just want to tell her if she's on a team and anyone bullies any of your teammates, you should grab them by the back of their neck and give him a couple uppercuts underneath the basket. Because that's what we do. Tiger in Podcast Gain Super Flings are here to take your laundry to the next level. Talking about games. Super Flings, super sized laundry packs. These things are huge. Super fresh, super clean. Gain Super Flings. Gain Super Flings laundry packs have four times the oxy cleaning power and three times the Febreze Freshness versus Gain original liquids. Super fresh, super clean.

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[Sophie]

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