Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on Fever's WNBA preseason, Angel Reese love triangle & DRAMA w West Wilson

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on Fever's WNBA Preseason, Angel Reese Love Triangle & DRAMA w/ West Wilson
Date: May 7, 2026
Hosts/Guests: Sophie Cunningham, Wes Wilson, Show regulars

Episode Overview

In this lively, candid episode of The Herd—Show Me Something segment—Sophie Cunningham reflects on the Indiana Fever’s WNBA preseason, shares locker room insights, discusses personal and league-wide drama, and delves into off-court pop culture, including a much-discussed NBA love triangle and a leaked controversy involving West Wilson. The conversation is a blend of WNBA analysis, athlete lifestyle, and unfiltered takes on trending sports gossip, maintaining a playful and very human tone throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fever’s WNBA Preseason & Rookie Debuts (00:19–02:28)

• Sophie’s Return to Gameplay: Sophie Cunningham talks about her first real minutes back on the court, her cautious optimism regarding her physical health, and the thrill of competing outside of scrimmages.
  • “Every time I say I feel good, something bad happens. So, I’d like to say I feel very mild.” — Sophie (01:27)
• Preseason Perspective: She enjoys preseason for the opportunity it gives rookies to shed nerves and for veterans to benchmark team progress.
  • “You get to see where you kind of stack up…And then, you know, I do like it because then you get to just see the people. Like a lot of these rookies, it was their first debut and so like…see them shine.” — Sophie (02:40)
• Standout Fever Rookies: Sophie details her impressions of teammates Raven Johnson, JT, KT, JP, and Meg McConnell, highlighting unique skills and personalities.
  • “Raven Johnson…great defensive player…fun, bubbly personality.” (03:54)
  • “Meg McConnell…her brother TJ is on the Pacers…cool story.” (05:20)

2. Athlete Style & Locker Room Vibe (05:30–07:01)

• Personal Swag Crisis: Sophie humorously laments her current game-day fits, especially juggling sleeves and compression gear due to previous injuries.
  • “Wes, I’m not having identity crisis. I just don’t like my swag.” — Sophie (06:27–06:33)
• In-Game Fashion and Rituals: Discussion on the culture around tunnel fits and pregame attire, highlighting how these small details connect to athlete confidence.

3. League Trends & National Spotlight (07:36–09:22)

• Every Fever Game Nationally Televised: Both note the unprecedented media coverage for the Fever.
  • “Every Fever game is nationally televised.” — Wes (09:11)
  • “It’s actually insane. It’s pretty cool.” — Sophie (09:22)
• Fan Culture: Sophie expresses genuine appreciation for Fever fans and anticipation for the unique atmosphere at home games.

4. Gossip & Personal Updates: Drama Unpacked (12:42–21:16)

• The Big Leak: Wes addresses rumors around a leaked private recording, denying any involvement and reflecting on how such scandals impact relationships and public image.
  • “There were rumors that I leaked it to sell it to Complex…obviously not.” — Wes (12:50)
• Nude Photos Hacked: Wes candidly admits his nudes were leaked after a hack, showing vulnerability and a sense of humor about the situation.
  • “I know my nudes leaked, okay? …I have a lot going on, and, like, I’m gonna own it.” — Wes (17:36)
  • “Don’t leak people’s nudes or hack people’s accounts, it’s not fun.” (18:15)
• Impact & Growth: Both reflect on how public mistakes and mortifying situations can prompt personal growth.
  • “Maybe it’s a good kind of tease…gets real, that’s going to be talked about.” — Sophie (14:57)
  • “It’s the darkest form of therapy where you have to, like…get feedback on how your actions impact others.” — Wes (16:11)
  • “The only way you can make experiences like this worth it…is to be better from it later.” — Wes (17:01)

5. NBA and WNBA Gossip: Relationships & "Love Triangle" (21:52–24:54)

• Angel Reese Love Triangle: Insight into an unusual NBA story—Angel Reese’s new relationship with Wendell Carter Jr., now playing against her ex Jalen Duren in the playoffs, causing awkward energy and on-court struggles.
  • “Every time Jalen Duren gets dunked on, Angel Reese is putting it on her story. So she’s like really going after him here…” — Panel (24:06)
• Clay and Meg’s Breakup: Dissecting new rumors of infidelity and social media drama affecting another sports couple, even down to whether Clay needs to rename his boat.
• NFL Coaching Scandal: Updates on Patriots coach and sports reporter Diane Russini, with suggestion of a personal relationship impacting professional fallout.
  • “They’re both married. Not to each other. So very scandalous…” (22:05–22:40)

6. Pop Culture & Sports Crossovers (25:16–26:13)

• Running Point on Netflix: Quick rec on the new basketball comedy starring Kate Hudson, with parallels drawn between TV drama and real-life sports environments.
  • “It’s funny, a little messy, and very…you got ambition, family drama, people scheming behind the scenes—it’s got really everything.” — Sophie (26:08)

7. Wild and Weird Headlines (29:04–32:58)

• Enhanced Games: The upcoming “steroids allowed” athletic competition in Vegas is debated, with curiosity about how much performance enhancement changes sports.
  • “Is it really that much better for athletic performance? …I’d be interested to see.” — Wes (29:46)
• Helen Keller Autograph Card: Banter on authenticity and value of a recently-sold Helen Keller trading card.
  • “Do we believe that Helen Keller was blind and deaf? …How is that possible?” — Sophie (31:18)
• Stanley Tucci’s Fashion Take: Fun close to the headlines, with opinions split on dressing up versus athleisure “in the wild” and cultural differences observed, especially in Japan.

8. Betting Corner: Chiefs Futures and Betting 101 (36:34–40:09)

• NFL Futures Bets: Predictions on Kansas City Chiefs' odds for winning the AFC West and other accolades; key advice on interpreting typical betting lines.
  • “Negative means, whatever you’re putting in, you’re gonna get less money back, because it’s something that will probably happen.” — Wes (38:25)
• Beginner’s Betting Tips: Sophie asks for clarity on odds, and the crew provides a crash course in betting basics.
  • “Can I ask a bet question for people who know what any of this means? Okay, because I’m a girl.” — Sophie (38:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Preseason Energy:
  “You get to kind of see them shine and see how they compare…and then, you know, I do like it because then you get to just see the people. Like, a lot of these rookies, it was their first debut…seeing like your teammates’ dreams come true.” — Sophie Cunningham (00:19–02:28)

• Talking Swag:
  “Wes, I’m not having identity crisis. I just don’t like my swag.” — Sophie Cunningham (06:27)

• On Handling Leaks:
  “It’s the darkest form of therapy where you have to, like, get feedback on how your actions impact others… the only thing I can do from this is learn and try to be better.” — Wes Wilson (16:11)

• On NBA Relationship Drama:
  “Every time Jalen Duren gets dunked on, Angel Reese is putting it on her story.” — Panelist (24:06)

• Discussing Athlete Injuries:
  “It feels good to just honestly have again… I don’t play sports anymore besides this. So, like… I’m working, I’m rehabbing, I’m questionable now. I’m probable.” — Wes Wilson (28:02)

• On Wild Collectibles:
  “Do we believe that Helen Keller was blind and deaf? Whoa.” — Sophie Cunningham (31:18)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• WNBA Preseason & Rookie Talk: 00:19–05:30
• Swag & Athlete Gear Debate: 05:30–07:36
• Broadcasting & Fan Culture: 07:36–09:22
• Leaks/Drama/Scandal Reflection: 12:42–21:16
• NBA Love Triangle & Athlete Gossip: 21:52–24:54
• Pop Culture Sports TV: 25:16–26:13
• Enhanced Games & Helen Keller Card: 29:04–32:58
• Betting 101 & Chiefs Futures: 36:34–40:13

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Tone and Style

The episode is highly conversational, irreverent, and self-aware. The hosts mix sharp sports analysis with genuine vulnerability and quick-witted humor, keeping it real even when discussing awkward or controversial topics. They do not shy away from poking fun at themselves or the headlines, making for an entertaining yet insightful listen for both sports aficionados and casual fans.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

A lot of these rookies, it was their debut, and so, like, kind of get the. The nerves out of the way. You get to kind of see them, like, shine and. And see how they compare. And so I think that's the most exciting part is, like, one, not playing against yourself for the practice guys, and two, seeing, like, your teammates dreams come true for the first time.

[C]

Where you at? Oh, so that's a nice little blue circle in your new apartment. What is that?

[A]

It is a blue circle. Just how you said it was sick.

[C]

I love that. Show Me something podcast, episode 38. Heads up. Sophie's mic still broke.

[A]

Still broken. But I feel. Should I just, like, leave it here just for the shits and gigs of

[C]

it or, like, yeah, it looks good on camera. I mean, this is our first pod since you've gotten to play real minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How's the freaking. How's the freaking need?

[A]

So good, Truly. Well, I don't want to say that, because every time I say I feel good, something bad happens. So I'd like to say I feel very mild. I'm very mild, which is great. No, it's usually we were in New York and. Oh, yeah, it was just fun. I went out and got dinner with some of my SI girls, and that was fun. And then the next day, we had a game and honestly played good. Like, just felt confident, was shooting the ball. But we only. I only played, like, I think, like, 10, 12 minutes because it's like preseason, because you have so many people in the bench. So that's like, really, you.

[C]

You put up 13 and 12.

[A]

I think I feel like maybe I played 13 minutes. I don't know, like, 10 to 13 minutes. I don't know.

[C]

That's a 13 in that amount of time is, like, pretty saucy.

[A]

Thanks. I feel good. Like, Truly, like, I. It's good. Our team is, like, fast, and we're gonna be. We're gonna be a lot better than. I think a lot of people are thinking, what's your.

[C]

Like, what's your stance on preseason? Like, do you like to play games that don't matter? Like, do you like seeing the bench get to play a lot? Like, how do you.

[D]

Where's.

[C]

Some people hate preseason. Some people.

[A]

I think it's fun because during training camp, you're just, like, so used to, like, just going against against your team the whole time. And so it's nice to finally go another team to kind of see, okay, we're really good here, but need to be better here or like, just see where you kind of stack up. And New York, I mean, they've been in like the championship they've won. Like, that was a good team to like. And we beat them, which is. I know it's preseason, but still makes you feel good. And then, you know, I do like it because then you get to just see the people. Like a lot of these rookies, it was their first debut and so like, of get the. The nerves out of the way. You get to kind of see them like shine and, and see how they compare. And so I think that's the most exciting part is like one, not playing against yourself or the practice guys and two, seeing like your teammates dreams come true for the first time. So I think that's super cool.

[C]

That's precious. Do you remember your first preseason game where you were who you played?

[A]

I think we played Seattle and then hit a buzzer beater.

[C]

End of the game, buzzer beater to win it. Your first W game.

[A]

But it was preseason, so it didn't count.

[C]

Yeah, that's still sick.

[A]

Yeah, it was fun. Oh, you definitely.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

I love our rookies too. Our rookies are awesome.

[C]

So run us through the. Run us through the rookies.

[A]

So yeah, Raven Johnson, she was the highest draft. She was. She's gonna be great. Great defensive player. Just a very fun, bubbly personality. Like, truly love her. She's awesome. Jt, she's from Alabama. She is strong. Strong can shoot it. She's just a score like, really good. Get to her spots. Pretty, like seamlessly fit right into the W, which was really nice to see. You have kt. Well, she was drafted a couple years ago by Chicago. I'm pretty sure she's been overseas, but she's a great lefty, a quick little point guard, shifty ball, good defensive player.

[C]

In the same way that baseball values lefties as pitchers and batters. Does. Does a point guard, like, up a defense if they can just. If they like always go left or anything. I guess you want to be ambidextrous.

[A]

But I will say, like Kelsey Mitchell, who could be the MVP this year, who knows? She's just so good. Like, all of our plays are run so she can get to her strong hand. For Asia Wilson, all the players are for her left hand. Like, yes, they know how to go right. But like, you try to set up your teammates to be the most successful. So makes sense. You have jp, she's from Bandy. She is a stretch forward and shoot the shit out of it. Really good. There you have Meg McConnell. So this is a good little story. So Meg McConnell, she's a point guard. Scrappy, scrappy little lover. Can shoot it, pass the ball. Just a good point guard. But her brother TJ is on the Pacers.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, sister. Yeah. I'm sure, like their mom and dad are so thrilled that they're together for a little bit. So I think that's kind of like all the rookies.

[C]

Maybe a lot of people don't think about this, but that's your first time getting to put on the unit, like real uniforms and kind of like get. Get swaggy, you know?

[A]

Dude, I'm hating my swag this year, though.

[C]

How don't. You can't hate your own swag.

[A]

Because I wear long sleeves.

[C]

Cuz you had elbow. You had elbow issues before. Compression.

[A]

Yeah. Now I'm wearing a compression sleeve on my leg and I think I have to take it off because then I have one leg free.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I. Can you go.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

You can't go long sleeves with. With a leg sleeve.

[A]

No.

[C]

Can you just let your arms go? Bare arms for a little and like a headband. I think you'd look sick. Thick, kind of like a thick, thick white headband. Not like thick this way, but kind of tall.

[A]

No.

[C]

Yeah, that would be. I think that would be fresh. Absolutely not with the leg sleeve on. And then some tattoos right here.

[A]

Wes, I'm not. I'm not having identity crisis. I just don't like my flag. So we're gonna.

[C]

Well, let's figure. Let's figure that out before first game.

[A]

I have until May 9, but we play Dallas and we play Nigeria on Sunday. Yeah.

[C]

So then. Is that their nat? That's their national team. Say there's Nigerian girls in the W. Are they playing for this national team? No. Right. I didn't think so. Any weird games like how you guys played at Iowa last year? Any gimmicky, like, goofy games you're playing?

[A]

So. No, I think we were supposed to, but because of our cva, it got cancelled.

[C]

Ah, okay. Oh, that sucks.

[A]

I do think that that is going to become a thing though. Like you'll see people going to Iowa. You'll see people going to. I feel like Montana State, dude. Yeah. Bring one back to Missouri. That would be so awesome.

[C]

Quick up. Little interruption. I introduced Soph to the Montana State athletic director, Leon Costello, and It was a. A very special treat. And so one. One day, we're gonna get Sophie up there.

[A]

Sorry, I. I don't know why I'm eating a chocolate strawberry.

[C]

It's okay. Oh, you remind me. I gotta eat dinner.

[A]

I just got a massage. Oh, yeah. I shove the line.

[C]

Male, male, or male or female?

[A]

Female. Her name's Karen. She's the freaking best.

[C]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

But I. I don't know why I was craving, like, a chocolate strawberry after my massage.

[C]

That sounds like a horny day. Wait. Okay. You guys play the. The wings in. Back. In Back at the crib game.

[A]

Bridge, baby.

[C]

You think people are gonna turn up for the. Anything special? They're gonna turn the lights out.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

It's always fun.

[A]

I don't know. I feel like all of our games back at home or here are special, so. Like, even preseason games, they're like real games, so I don't know. I'm excited. I'm just. Our fans are the freaking best ones. I'm telling you. Like, they're just so damn cool. I'm just excited to be back.

[C]

Do you have a first game tunnel fit ready?

[A]

So preseason games, you really don't dress up?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, but our first game is on A. It's May 9th. I think it's against Dallas. I could be completely wrong, but Morgan Wallen has a concert that night, so, you know, I'm going hot, sexy, country, little. Little chicky.

[C]

Are you. Are you missing the concert?

[A]

No, we're. I'm going right after the game.

[C]

Wow, that's awesome. That's going to be a fun, fun day. Fun.

[A]

I have, like, Cooper and his wife coming up, Joe and a couple other buddies coming.

[C]

That's beautiful. On that note, for Fever Games, the debut schedule came out, and correct me if I'm wrong, every Fever game is nationally televised.

[A]

It is actually insane. It's pretty cool.

[C]

Has that ever. I. There's no way that's happened before for every game.

[A]

I think last year we had, like, 42.

[C]

Okay. That's sick.

[A]

Yeah. So that's good.

[C]

Now I have no. I have no excuse for not being.

[A]

None. Damn it.

[C]

Absolutely, absolutely dialed.

[A]

I know. Dude, you texted me during our pre season, during the one on Saturday.

[C]

I mean, dude, I. Yeah, I just had it. I got to have people at my apartment. Now I can't go anywhere.

[A]

Honestly, it's. I literally don't care.

[C]

No, I did, though, because I got the alert. I texted you, and I was like, I'm having, like, a few people over, want to Come over. And then I got the alert, like, three hours later. That was like, fever win. And I was like, oh, my God, it's so fucking embarrassing. I invited her over when she was playing.

[A]

I literally.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Have you been seeing, like, all the Stagecoach stuff?

[C]

I'm not on the Internet, so.

[A]

Stage Coach, I think was a freaking hit this year.

[C]

I just don't get, like. Like, it's in the same place as Coachella.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

Like, it's literally the same zip code.

[A]

I think, when. Where's Coachella?

[D]

Okay, let's see.

[C]

Where.

[D]

Oh, Coachell.

[A]

Where is Coachella?

[D]

It is hosted in California desert around Palm Springs, near Rancho Mirage.

[A]

And then where's Stagecoach Festival location?

[D]

Empire Polo Club, right inside the Coachella Valley.

[A]

I think it's funny because I think you're more Coachella and I'm definitely way more stage coach.

[C]

I am just. That's a fair take. I. I do, and I am not. I will. I do not like yucking people's yums. I think everyone should vibe how they want to, but I never, ever have Coachella envy. I'm like, I don't want to dress up that much to, like, walk that far and, like, be dirty and, like, probably not even see be that close to the artist.

[A]

I'll take. I'm surprised by that. I thought you'd definitely be, like, a Coachella guy.

[C]

No, I've never been. And I don't, like, feel like I need to go. I would, like, maybe I'd go. It just is like, I don't know. I. I'm just not a concert, like, Die Hard. I think I will say the Bieber stuff looked cool. Like, him just being like, yeah, see,

[A]

I love a good concert, but I would rather a concert like an outdoor concert. Like, I don't. I'm so much of an inside concert person. But then again, if it was the artist, I totally would be. I would just prefer, like, you know, a good little summer country concert outside in my veins.

[C]

All right, I'm just gonna say it. I've been glued to my JLab headphones lately. Flights, workouts, quick coffee runs. They've basically been on me. 247 W Park.

[A]

The battery just keeps going. I honestly don't remember the last time I charged mine. It's been that long.

[C]

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[A]

I've been rocking the over ear pair on flights, and it's a total upgrade. Noise cancelling is clutch. They're comfortable the entire time.

[C]

Whether I'm in the gym, on a plane, or just walking around with music. They've got something that fits whatever vibe.

[A]

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[A]

So I've got to ask about. I heard that. I heard the leak. What has happened?

[C]

Leaked, dude. I don't fudge know. Well for one, like there were rumor again not on the Internet, but everyone was like, Wes did it and he like was going to sell it. There were rumors that I like I leaked it to sell it to Complex or something like preposterous. Obviously not like I don't think anyone on stage could ever do it. It's got to be someone where. Yeah, like where audio is. But they found the person. I don't know who it is, but yeah, I'm gonna ask eventually. Premier hosts on VRBO deliver quality vacation rental stays with fast responses and clear instructions so you don't have to worry about surprises.

[A]

I asked our host a question about the house last night and he got back to me super quick.

[C]

See, that's the premier host move right there.

[A]

I wish I had a premier group chat. I asked them where we should have dinner last night and they left me on red. I know you saw it.

[C]

It says it classic group chat move. Don't walk into a surprise book. A top rated verbo. Stay with a premier host if you know you verbo. But it could be like I'm pretty sure people are like freelanced in to help with audio and stuff and. But I don't think that's ever happened.

[A]

Can I just tell you, I forgot what day got leaked. I had so many texts, oh, morning, morning after so many times to like about. About it. And I was like, dude, I have do. I don't know. Like I don't. I don't know how. How I want to know everything.

[C]

Yeah, I mean I like obviously can't talk that much about it, but those are just. That's a long, long day.

[A]

Or like really just.

[C]

Yeah, for everyone. Like it's a long day always. Obviously this one a little less fun than normal. But yeah, the leak, I don't really know how it affects. I. I don't know. It's just like. It's just such a compromise of like the integrity like Bravo has. Bravo's so buttoned up with everything that I'm sure they're Just so

[A]

obviously because of Bravo. Because we're not allowed to talk about certain things that both want to talk about because. But yeah, I'm surprised it got out. But honestly, if anything, maybe it's good because people are like. Like there's real that's going to be talked about. So I think it's maybe a good kind of tease. Like, I'm trying to be positive here. Like, yeah, could be a good tease.

[C]

Depends who you ask. Again, I can't. I'm not allowed to say, honestly, anything,

[A]

but are things kind of trailing in the right direction?

[C]

I just think, I hope. I mean, that's what matters to me the most, is like, these are my friends, you know, and I've caused a lot of damage, which fucking sucks. So it's going to take time for sure, but time helps. And we are doing. The reunion was one step, you know, and got through it. And so we're on the other side of it and you just gotta take it one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Bonobos, though. Shout out. Bonobos came through. It's like a blue with like a little. There's like a tad bit of like plaid undertones.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, honestly, reunions aren't fun, but you do. It's like the darkest form of therapy where you have to, like. You don't normally get that much feedback on how your actions impact other people. Obviously there's like a shock to your system from it. I'm not trying to be cliche, but the only thing I can do from this is learn and try to be better.

[A]

Honestly, that's okay. Like, you are human and I think people. It is just a good way to look yourself in the mirror. Maybe how your actions impact others and have. Maybe next can be a little bit more aware of fear. But also it's a good time to reflect up, like, the things you do well, the way you make people feel in a good way too. So it's like good, positive, and I don't want to say negative, but it's just like things to grow and mature and get better on and everyone do that. Yeah, Literally do that.

[C]

Yeah, totally. Well, also, the only way you can make experiences like this worth it, as dark as it gets, is to be better from it later. And like, obviously I have a lot to learn from and be better for. It's absolutely the only way you can make any of this. Turn it positive, you know. So, yeah, it's growth, it's. It'll take a sec, but we'll get there, you know. And you know what? While we're Talking about growth.

[D]

Right?

[A]

Oh, my. What?

[C]

I know my nudes leaked, okay? But guess what? It's like the sixth worry of mine right now. I have a lot of going on, and, like, I'm gonna own it. It's happened to friends of mine, and they're not even sexual. Like, they look medical. I'm soft in all of them. I don't even know if the other two are me, but I. In my old apartment, so it's like. I don't know how old it is, but it's from my old apartment. I had a sauna by my bathroom, and I would always get out of the sauna and, like, double check or, like, check progress.

[A]

You know, who had it. Like, who leaked them?

[C]

I. Well, I. So I woke up also. I know I'm, like, laughing because if I don't laugh, I'll cry about all of this. So, like, don't leak people's nudes or, like, hack people's. It's, like, not fun. I'm not telling you. I woke up that same morning and, like, my Instagram was hacked and my Facebook was hacked, and I don't know how. How that happened. What else can I do? Yeah. Manscaped partnership down the road, hopefully.

[A]

How did. You said you don't have social. How did you find out

[C]

I did.

[A]

Your mom.

[C]

Scott. No. Scott Hill texted me five seconds before I walked on stage the reunion. And I was like, mother, when it rains, it storms. But, yeah, I know that I've had the worst day of my life already, which is good to know.

[A]

Yeah, that's behind me. Yeah. So you know what you're. This is. Or. Russ, this is a.

[C]

Also, if you see it, report it. Guys. Press report.

[A]

Dude, you need to hire someone, like, I know. Agent to delete all that, but I'm

[C]

gonna, like, let it live because you

[A]

know what this is gonna be.

[C]

What can I do?

[A]

This is gonna be the year of growth for you. Seriously.

[C]

No, I know. I'm so. I'm soft in all the pictures.

[A]

Hey, I told. We were. I was talking about it at dinner. Like, thanks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, we can just stay with relationships and that type of stuff. There are so many people that are going through some right now. Clay and Meg. Oh, my. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Clay and Meg. I've. So he. She said he cheated on her, but then he posted a video being like, she cheated on me.

[A]

I don't know. So he went on live saying that he had been cheating. He cheated maybe with someone from the W is what I heard. But my main concern is like the boat name. Because he named his boat after, like, after her, the Meg. So, like, he's gonna have to get that repeated.

[C]

Oh, I didn't know that. Also, yeah, I'm probably not the person people want to, like, hear talk about all this right now, but it is happening. I did see a thing today, and it was like, his roster or whatever, and they were calling him, like, the Derek Jeter of the. The NBA. I don't know anyone else he's dated, though.

[A]

I don't know, like, his roster

[C]

of. Whoever he's dated. I have. I actually don't know who he's dated. We'll see what happens. I'm sure. I. I bet Meg will come out with an album that's absolutely bunkalina.

[A]

Like, 4 million on her. He's like, I'll never do that again, Kevin.

[C]

That's the exact graphic. I don't think it looks AI. I don't think these are real people.

[A]

They all have to be going to the same injectors. They all have the same cheeks and lips and eyebrows. All stunning.

[C]

I don't know if that's. If that's. If those are real people.

[A]

They don't really look. I mean, they're all very beautiful.

[D]

Besides me, say, is the lead researcher on the show. I do not fact check anything. So just everyone at home should. Should be very, very, very aware.

[C]

And then the. The Patriots coach, too. I. There's Twitter. Twitter saying he might have to.

[A]

I haven't heard about this.

[D]

This first happened. First made the news Variable in Rossini, a photo leaked of them kind of holding hands. Very like Coldplay concert esque of that couple that leaked. So this, folks, this photo, which is very recent, spurred a bunch of other people coming out with photos in 2020, 2020 four of them two together.

[C]

Well, of them.

[D]

Of them together. They're both married. Not to each other. So very scandalous. Diana originally told her company, the Athletic, who she writes for, that it was just like a hangout. It was just like a hang a lot of people there. So the Athletic backed her, supported her, and then was like, cool, just show us the pictures of all the homies hanging out. And she's like, I don't got them. Then she resigned. And then the NFL started to look into this. But the NFL is like, Ray Bull technically didn't break any NFL rules, so they're chilling. But obviously the Patriots had an insanely great year, and now they got to deal with this. Like, I don't know. Is that, like, an issue? What do you guys Think.

[A]

Show me the pic. Do you have the pictures? Can I. Can you pull them up? That's crazy. That's.

[C]

Yeah, well, she's a reporter and so like, she's. They like the Internet's doing what they do and they're finding like all the weekends she like, covered the Titans and like all this.

[A]

Wait, what?

[D]

Also the. The newest leak is that like a few seasons ago, the Titans were on a four game losing streak and Diane Racini.

[C]

Are you talking about the pot?

[D]

The playlist made a playlist called like, Tough Times, we'll move on. And it's. And she sent it to a guy named Mike. So it's like so many smoking guns out there.

[A]

What? That is so weird. Okay, what else is going on? Kev, tell us more news.

[D]

This one is kind of crazy, but the most fun one in my opinion. I can't wait to show you this graphic.

[A]

Fun is insane.

[D]

Fun. Is it? So essentially, Jaylen Duran, Wendell Carter Jr. They're facing each other in the playoffs right now. Magic and pistons. Wendell Carter Jr. Is dating Angel. Is dating Angel Reese, who is Jalen Duran's ex. So now these two dudes are playing each other. They're guarding each other. And Jalen Duran averaged 20 and 10 in the regular season. He's going to make the all NBA team. He's an all star. He's averaging 10 and 8. Now he's matched up against Angel, Reese's current boyfriend. He's the ex. So that kind of weird dynamic there is like absolutely crushing his game on a mental level. And it's like, is it.

[A]

Is it real? Like, has he come out and said something that. That's why.

[D]

So there's like, you know, Jalen Duran and Angel were like dating on the low, but like, you know, Snap and Instagram, you could tell they're in the same location. That was a few months ago. Now she's very publicly dating Wendell Carter Jr. And every time Jalen Durant gets dunked on Angel, Reese is putting it on her story. So she's like really going. Going after him here, which is kind of crazy too, because, like, if you're Wendell, be like, yo, you could like, move off that now.

[A]

You know, I wonder if something like, something had to have happened for her to like, keep, like, I don't know, want to like, embarrass him in some

[C]

way or nothing happened.

[A]

Valid. But then move. But then move on. Worried about your current boyfriend?

[D]

It's just funny. He's just getting absolutely dominated right now. And this is like all NBA Twitter could talk about because the only guys are all in. He's like an all NBA player who just got like the monsters took his powers and now he's averaging 10 and 8 and he's like a 20 and 10 guy.

[C]

So that sucks.

[D]

He's in his head. He's in his head.

[A]

I want to see.

[C]

You gotta get out.

[A]

They look similar at all. Big muscles are that. They're both big men.

[D]

Yeah, they're both bigs. I don't. My wife thinks Wendell Jr. Is hotter. I think Jalen Dredd might be hotter, but that's also

[C]

fair. Fair. All right, quick one. There's a new season of Running Point dropping on Netflix April 23rd. It's from Mindy Kaling and stars Kate Hudson. It basically is a basketball comedy with an entirely stacked cast.

[A]

And this season, Isla Gordon. She's not the surprise pick anymore. Now she's the person everyone's watching. The team's finally bouncing back after all the drama last year and she's trying to prove she actually deserves a job.

[C]

Meanwhile, her brother is low key, working behind the scenes trying to take that job back. So it's not just basketball. It's politics, pressure, family drama, all of it.

[A]

And she's got to deal with the board, the expectations, the spotlight. Basically rewrite the whole game plan if she wants to stay on top.

[C]

Season two definitely turns everything up. More stakes, more chaos, more comedy.

[A]

Honestly, this kind of feels like our world a little bit like pressure, egos, people doubting you, trying to prove you long. Yeah, that part. It's at home.

[C]

But even if you're not deep into sports, it's still super fun. It's funny, a little messy and very.

[A]

You got ambition, family drama, people scheming behind the scenes. It's got really everything.

[C]

And yeah, Kate Hudson running a basketball team. I know.

[A]

Go check out Running Point Season 2 only on Netflix April 23rd.

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[C]

Wait, Kev, did you announce that Beast Infection kickballs three and zero?

[D]

I did not. Electric postgame presser. Beast Infection three and. Oh, you came back from an ankle injury. A lot of off court spectacles West.

[C]

How.

[D]

How are you able to lock in and lead your team to victory?

[C]

Well, so I was go, I, I didn't go this past Thursday, but they, they got the dub. So the team's 3. 0. I think I'll be there this Thursday. But I did. I. I sprained my ankle back. Didn't I put my ankle on.

[A]

In on camera last time thing going on?

[C]

No. And then it moved to my toes the other day. It was like a real sprain. Wait, look. So this was two or three days ago. If I can get it to Wait. Can you see the coloration or. No.

[A]

You should probably chill out. You have free nudes now. Free feet fix.

[C]

Wait. Yeah, there it is. So it drained into my feet and my toes, and it got. It was, like, really bruised, really bad. But yesterday, Kev braced up, went to the gym. We did a. We did a 7 mile per hour jog for a little bit, and then we did a little. Then we did some lateral movement because I'm wearing a brace. Like, I'll be fine. I just need to wear cleats, I think this Thursday and keep the brace on. And I should be. I should be okay. But it's like, it feels good to just honestly have again. Sophie, I don't play sports anymore besides this. So, like, I'm working, I'm going. I'm, like, I'm rehabbing. I'm. I'm questionable now. I'm probable.

[A]

There you go. There you go.

[C]

And I'm. And I gotta wear the brace. And then, like, kind of not. Not trust it for the first inning. Kind of feel good. Second inning and then just third, fourth, fifth is fly your right foot.

[A]

Ooh. So you have to kick the ball with it.

[C]

Yeah. But, I mean, it should be okay. Maybe it. Maybe it helps. Honestly, it's more. The hardest part is rounding the bases because it's. It's turf like, this thick, and you just. You know, it just feels good to have, like, an injury to work on and, like. And, like, see progress. How good is that as an athlete?

[A]

Injury progress says that it. How it feels so good to have an injury. So you can see progress.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Right now garden and watch, like, your tomato plant progress in the sun. Like, you don't need an injury to be doing that.

[C]

I got a kickball championship to win. You will win well, so that's good. Yeah. So I don't know who we play Thursday, but should be smooth.

[A]

Kev, is that only our only updates?

[D]

I actually have a few more for you here. This one's pretty fun. So in a month in Las Vegas, they're hosting the first ever Enhanced Games. These are all athletes on steroids. They're calling it Fully Unleashed. Powered by Science. Pursuing their full human potential. The game is one night. It's all natural versus unnatural for a 25 million dollar cash prize. Swimming, track and weightlifting, which I think are like events that might, you know, favor steroid people because they're not like skill related activities. You know, it's just like swim and lift and run. But your guys thoughts on people competing? Totally juiced up.

[C]

I have it sounds interesting honestly. Same how like some people are like bring back. Let like let people do steroids in baseball because dudes are just hitting nukes. I would be interested to see if. Here's what the, the like thesis probably is. Is like are steroids like clearly that much better for athletic performance? Like if everyone on steroids wins swimming, sprinting, weightlifting, then you're. It's just like yeah, it's dangerous. I, I guess but it objectively works. And I don't. Maybe that's, maybe that's not even a question and maybe we'll know that.

[A]

Here's my argument to that. I think that is completely valid. My only thing is like you take people who are just say you take a normal human and they do that, then like maybe that will enhance how they perform. But when you already have like the most elite elite of athletes and then someone of the elite athletes, they do it. I think that's what matters. But I am very fascinated on how this is going to go.

[D]

All right guys, got another headline for you here. Topps trading cards recently sold a card on ebay, a Helen Keller autograph card not worth $4,500. It's authenticated. It's. It's sold. Guys, is that higher or lower than you?

[C]

Who, who, how, how do you authenticate

[A]

exactly and how do we know is it.

[C]

Is there braille?

[D]

Do you want to see a picture? Yeah, I'll give it up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, dude, great point. Wes is.

[C]

Yeah, it's actually, it's actually kind of sick.

[A]

Dude. Do we believe that Helen Keller was blind and deaf? Whoa.

[C]

I think you gotta. It's not. That's not a hill to die on. The bigger question with Helen Keller to me is like how do you even know what life is like? How do you know people are teaching you?

[A]

I don't Believe it, dude.

[C]

Whoa. 45 hund I. That feels reasonable to me.

[D]

No, guys, where do you, where do you post in your bedroom? Is this like in your dining room where you showcase?

[C]

I mean if she signed that, that's cool to have a thing she signed.

[A]

If she signed it and that that price is low.

[C]

Yeah, but it's Authenticated means.

[A]

I get that. But I'm saying.

[C]

Which I don't know how they.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like, everyone around the world knows Helen Keller because she is, like, the only person ever to be blind and deaf and knows how to spell, read, write, do everything.

[C]

Well, the. I think the first. She's not the only one. Or maybe it's only.

[A]

I'm not the first one to be blind and deaf. I'm saying to be blind and deaf and still, like, do everything. How is that possible?

[D]

I know. That's. That's why this car, this card is worth almost.

[A]

If it's real, that should be like 4.5 million.

[C]

There you go. That's the over under for Sophie. 4.5 million. Well, no, actually. A museum. A museum. A museum would pay so much for that.

[D]

Yeah, this is solid. This is solid resale value.

[C]

The Blind and Deaf museum or whatever.

[D]

All right, last one here for you guys. Headlines here at the Devil Wears Prada to premiere. Stanley Tucci, noted man of taste, says no more sweats in the wild. He's done with Athleisure. This is only at the gym. Strong take. How do you guys feel about that?

[A]

Look what I'm wearing.

[C]

I. What do you. I. I believe in never being, like, the one who's underdressed at an event or like, something of value or substance. Like, you should not. You never want to be underdressed. I think it's the worst look ever. But, like, dude, I don't. I. I'm not putting on jeans to go get a coffee or, like, you know, I just. Or here's a better question is people talk about airports. People are. Some people, like, you have to dress up at the airport. Other people, like, I would never dress up in the airport. No, I mean, I. Yeah, I don't know, but people do. Like, when I Can I say one thing, I was. Okay. I know anytime people make fun of, like, a white dude goes to Japan, and all they talk about is Japan, but every single adult male on public transportation in Japan had on a fucking perfectly tailored, crispy suit where, like, his shirt was, like, a perfect 3/4 inch away from his suit sleeves. And, like, like, nice watch and cool glasses. And I was like, all of you are so buttoned up and, like, look so good. And the fact that it's like 99% of the population in Japan, I found to be astounding. I remember sitting on the Bullet train, and the guy next to me, just random guy just sitting by me, and I was like, Everything about what you're wearing is textbook. It is a crazy place for fashion.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

And yeah, and he was just going from Tokyo to Tokyo to Osaka. Perfect suit.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

Thanks, Kev. All right, quick time out. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet, the official sportsbook partner of the Orlando Magic. And speaking of the Magic, they're back in the playoffs, which means everything just leveled up. The lights are brighter, the pressure is real, and every possession actually matters. And that's where Hard Rock Bet makes it fun. Every night you've got a chance to build something. I've been messing around with the same game parlays like maybe your guy goes for 30, your big man grabs a double double point guard dishes out five assists. Stack it all up and let it ride. And if you're late to tip off, relax, you're still good. You can live bet the entire game from the first bucket to the final buzzer. So if you see something heating up, you can jump in right then. If you haven't tried it yet, this is a good time to get started. You can score 150 in bonus bets. If you win, just drop a $5 bet. And if it hits, you get your winnings plus an extra $150 in bonus bets. And that's just the beginning. Hard Rock Bets dropping new promos every single day. So honestly, just open the app and see what's live. And yeah, it's Florida's only legal sportsbook, but you don't even have to be in Florida. It's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois, Colorado and Michigan, with more states coming soon. So go ahead, download the Hard Rock BET app today and let's get the party started while we're here. This segment is brought to you by Hard Rock Bet. And I'm going to choose a chief's future here that I think probably the, I don't know, best value most likely to hit. I'm just going to give some insight. We have Chiefs to reach the playoffs minus 2:30 to win the AFC west plus 1:65. That feels this is what people do. They hate on the Chiefs until they are finally down and now people are back in cause they know it's not going to happen two years in a row. Mahomes to an MVP plus 1100. Andy Reid to win coach of the year plus 5000. Peter woods, defensive rookie of the year plus 5000. The late first round draft pick out of Clemson.

[A]

Can I just ask, what other awards are There. I feel like Kansas City got them all.

[C]

No, these are. This. These are like hypothetical. So it's what you. It's like what? Yeah, like people could bet on them now, you know.

[A]

Okay,

[C]

this isn't on here. I would like to know Patrick Mahomes, comeback player of the year. He. He tore his ACL, like week 12, 13, 14.

[D]

Let's see.

[C]

I think it was like 12 or 13. I don't know if that. If that puts him in the bucket to be comeback player of the year, but that would be. I would like to see those odds

[A]

come back player of the year too.

[D]

Oh, like that.

[C]

So, dude, yeah, let's do. Andy Reid has done amazing things, but he's already notoriously a great coach. They're never going to give him coach of the year unless, like, as long as Patrick Mahomes is Andy Reid's quarterback, they're never going to give him coach of the Year. I wouldn't even touch that. A defensive tackle to win Rookie of the Year. I don't see that being possible either. I think you go back to the Chiefs winning the AFC west again at plus 1 65, you get plus value here. And again the Chiefs had won it. I forget the fucking number, but it was like 10 years in a row before last year. I think full off season and then some given they were eliminated from the playoffs and Mahomes got injured and weren't in the playoffs. And a little kick in the ass last year to just kind of wakey wakey, eggs and bakey. I like them to win the AFC west just based on. You got 15 and you got Andy Reid. I think they. I think they.

[A]

Can I ask a bet question for people who know what any of this means? Okay. Because I'm a girl.

[D]

No, no. Yeah, let's do it. Let's break it down.

[A]

Negative. 230 means.

[C]

Okay, I got you here. So I was not a big. I mean, I'm. Yeah, I didn't know anything about sports betting when I started working for Bleacher Report and helped them launch BR Betting. I had all of these questions in the very beginning and it like, it's so simple but so confusing at first. So negative means what? Whatever you're putting in, you're gonna get less money back because it's like something that will probably happen. So if I was gonna. It like is likely. So you. They're not gonna let you bet a hundred dollars and then get $500 back if the Chiefs make the playoffs. So that's them being like, if you bet 230 bucks. We'll give you a hundred.

[A]

If it happens, plus 5,000. You're going to get a shit ton of money back.

[C]

Yes. Because the odds of that happening very small. So once you get to plus, the plus is it means you'll. Whatever money you put in, you'll get more, but it's also probably, like, less likely to happen, if that makes sense. So when everything's right around 100, that means it's like. So, like most games, they'll give you a spread. The odds are going to be close to 100 because it means they. It's. They recognize. It's, like, pretty even, you know?

[A]

So if it's around, we'll talk more about that. And if it's not near 100 whatsoever, then it's, like, crazy.

[C]

Yeah. So, like, if they were like, Patrick Mahomes to complete a pass next year, that would be like, negative nine zillion. Okay, okay.

[A]

I totally get that. I totally get that. Me being the quarterback for the Chiefs would be like, plus.

[C]

Yeah. Plus a.

[A]

You.

[C]

You could complete a screen. A tunnel screen inside.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[C]

That segment. That segment was brought to you by hard rock.

[A]

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[C]

That was actually very informative. That was good. Episode 38. That was good. So it's good seeing you. And we're about to get into the WNBA season. It's about to get spicy. Bye, guys. And, Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show. Hey, everyone, check out this guy and his bird.

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