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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on surgery struggles, Fever vs. Lynx WNBA matchups, Housewives chaos
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A
This is an iHeart podcast, dude. Guess what?
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B
What?
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A
Guess who I kind of get to model for.
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B
Who?
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A
It's. She does all the really cool jackets for all, like, the wide stuff. Kristen use.
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B
Check.
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A
Kristen, check. Yeah. So she. Her. Her company off brand, like, her designer brand. She is going to the W, and so I'm going to be one of the first W players to rock her style. And tomorrow's out in tomorrow's tunnel.
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B
Fit foreignas. It's west and Sophie. Show me pod at 5. We've had so many things to, like, jump right into for all these episodes, and this one, I want to celebrate if we made it through our first episode without you getting fined. Well, I need to know.
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A
Yeah, I would like to know too, but I have had surgery and I've been on painkillers, so I actually haven't even got to see my gm, and she's normally the one who pulls me aside. So it is still up in the air if I got fined or not. Is that what happens with me through four?
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B
Yeah, she, like. She does like this.
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A
Did you see me? I held up a two out of four. It's. It's the oxy talking.
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B
I was gonna ask, what do they have you on? Are you partying?
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A
Honestly, that's been a freaking show. No, listen to this. So I react so weird to, like, pain meds. And so I've had three surgeries, and my meds have always been different because I just, like I said, I react weird to them. And so I was on. What was I on? It starts with an H. I'm blinking.
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B
Hydro. Hydro. Hydro, yes.
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A
Hydros, yes.
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B
Yeah, we'll just go with the nickname.
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A
That was Hydros. I was on. Hydros was not working. I could feel, like, every little, like, cut and incision they did on my knee. And so then I got to oxy, and you're only supposed to take one, but, like, again, I've got, like, a low tolerance to it, and so I had to take, like, two and a half, and then I was finally feeling good. So.
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B
So let's hop into the surgery. How are you feeling? How was it? Everything smooth?
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A
Honestly, real good. Like, they went in there and everything. Oh, listen to this. They said for my age and for, like, what I do for a living, that my knees are looking real nice. I said, yeah, that's what he said.
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B
That is nice. That's reassuring to hear after a knee injury, but have you started pt?
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A
A little bit. I've been doing a little bit of rehab. Lots of icing. Just trying to like get extension because like, I guess with this knee surgery I thought it'd be like the bending is what would be the hardest, but it's actually getting it straight. So a lot of people who get it, they have like a little curve in their knee because they can't straighten their legs. I've been really trying to work on getting my legs straight, but I've kind of taken up being like you and we should totally do this because I think people love this is I've been doing. I think I'm going to start doing like food reviews because I'm able to do that. Like all I'm doing is sitting around and eating and like you do that quite a bit and I. People tend to like that stuff and so I think start doing that.
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B
I don't know if you're still taking your, your drugs, but how fun do pop a fucking whatever and then just like eat a pizza, record yourself.
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A
Well, I've been, I've been so bad because I. This is bad. Since I've had surgery, I had Burger King, I've had a box of donuts and I went to Texas Roadhouse. When's the last time you've heard of Texas Roadhouse?
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B
But dude, people talk about their roles all the time. Like people talk about the Texas Roadhouse rolls every day so good.
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A
And they're honey butter.
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B
I do want to tell you because as someone who had a like life altering leg surgery, I. The most I ever weighed in college was 2:15. My sophomore year it was a good 215. After I broke my leg my junior year, it was a bad 215 because I. The only thing I had to like look forward to every day was because I didn't leave the house for like a few weeks. They had to wait for the swelling to go down.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Before I could like get surgery or pt. And it was like what movie was I going to watch? And what like pizza toppings was I going to get for the day? And I just ate because I had nothing else to do and nothing to like make me happy. So I ate so much post surgery.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Before I could pt And I got fucking chubby, bruh. And well, that's okay.
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A
I should actually weigh myself. I was at, I'm at. Before surgery, I was at 157. But I will say I need to start taking laxatives. Like it's been a minute.
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B
I was just going to say painkillers are going to blow you up because you. It's like impossible.
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A
I've been literally just inhaling Food. And nothing's come out.
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B
Not to be crazy, but I'm pretty sure the reason Elvis. One of the reasons Elvis was so sick at the end of his life was because he was just crushing painkillers and so boated because he, like, could never take dumps.
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A
I've never had that issue, but I'm. I'm starting to, and it's not great.
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B
Yeah. I feel like when you. After you have surgery, that a part of your prescription is like, laxatives. Sometimes they'll throw them in there because you.
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A
They should. Or at least, like, stool softeners. Like, you should do something because.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Let me tell you. But, dude, for you. Thank you. I'll send you a text.
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B
That'll be an update. Next week's pod. I'll be like, so there you go.
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A
Yeah. If I don't have an update, then I'll probably be back in the hospital.
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B
That's true.
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A
Getting a. What is it?
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B
The.
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A
The spurt water. What is it called?
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B
Oh, yeah. Enema.
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A
Enema. Yeah. That sounds fun right now. Anyway, you had a busy weekend. I feel like, a lot of, like, fun updates.
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B
Oh. Oh, dude. Motherfuck. It fucking rained, and we couldn't do it.
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A
The cancel.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Wait, they cancel it?
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B
It was, like, yes. Supposed to be on a rooftop, and it got canceled. So we, like, went downstairs and played, like, some little games. I don't know. I mean, it was a cute deal.
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A
But don't be mad at me. But, like, I feel like in the Midwest, if it rains, like, that makes it more fun. Are people too bougie to get their hair wet or what's going on?
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B
Just because it was, like, a corporate thing that I don't think that they were gonna, like, make everyone, like, go play in the rain and, like, tennis shoes. Maybe it's, like, because I just had a waiver before I got there, so.
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A
They didn't want Google to get hurt, I guess.
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B
Which, Whatever. It's fine.
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A
I mean, that's valid. I agree with that. Tell us about U.S. open, though. Yes. Oh, my gosh. I have so many questions. It's.
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B
The U.S. open is a major sporting event. It's one of New York's probably, like, more iconic sporting events. I'm working on appreciating this sport. I think watching tennis, you can tell they're, like, incredible athletes. I just. The country club sports of it all, where you're quiet and, like, it feels so. And, like, everyone's dressed up. I. I'm working to get there, to, like, really appreciate it and follow It. But if we're being totally honest, the US Open in New York, I mean, I feel like it's kind of a social event to be totally honest.
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A
Okay, that was. That was my question. I was like, do people really go there to watch and appreciate tennis? Or, like, is it more. You get to go and see what, like, people are wearing? You get to go meet fun people. Like, who did you meet? Did you get to meet anyone?
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B
So a lot of people I knew, but okay, a good tee up. So. Okay. I am not, like, obviously I don't watch housewives. Okay. But a lot of people do. And I've been, like, meeting them throughout this, the last few years. And, like, I just feel like there couldn't be much more, like, a polar opposite, like, figure than, like, kind of everything I stand for is, like, beer, football, and, like, boobs, wearing boobs. And then, like, these housewives are, like, so rich and, like, pretty and, like, just, like, go on vacations every day. Like, I don't know. I just think it's so fun for me to meet them and, like, get to know them and. Okay, so do you know. Have you heard of Meredith Marks? Do you know who this is?
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A
I do.
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B
Okay.
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A
Did you meet her?
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B
Yeah. So she was with us. Beautiful woman, very cool.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Also, she started. She's like a DJ now, but I. She. I was like, she's from Chicago. And we started talking about. I was like, I love to ask, so are you like Cubs or White Sox? Like, just a classic little Chicago question. She was like, you know what? I'm not like a super die hard team sports lady, except I'm so into the WNBA right now. This sounds like fake. I swear to God.
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A
You're lying.
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B
She's like, I love the wnba. And I go, okay, not to make this about me, but I just dropped a WNBA podcast like, four weeks ago. She goes, shut up. Like, show me. Like, she was so hype. Just the last person you'd think in a. In a U.S. open suite with you is going to be like, I need to see your WNBA podcast. And I showed her. And I was like, do you know who Sophie Cunningham is? And she goes, yeah. Like, that girl rocks. Like, she's so sick. And I was like, you're coming on the podcast. You're coming on the podcast, Meredith.
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A
We totally should be down.
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B
She was like, if Bravo approves it, like, let's do it.
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A
Wait, so this might be dumb on my end, but are all housewives Bravo?
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B
Yes. Yeah. Oh, so there's cities. So it's city Based. So, like.
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A
No, I know. I knew that. I just. I didn't know that Bravo was the one that did all that.
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B
I don't know what the first one was. I think it was like, Beverly Hills maybe. But yeah, dude, they're like, icons.
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A
Can we please get her on the show? I'm not even lying.
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B
No, and I think you're like, you and I would have. So we're gonna have, like, a lot of. We know a lot of sports people, you and I. Yeah. And we'll have a lot of sports guests, but, like, to kick it off with a housewife would be so fun. And she's down. We just gotta, like, get it. Get it going.
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A
Oh, I love that. I love all that.
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B
And I think she knows ball.
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A
Do you think that she could help me become a housewife and get on one of those shows? Do you have to be married to be one of them?
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B
I would imagine that you probably. Originally the format was you have to be married, but I know there are a lot of people who are. Are not. I'm pretty sure.
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A
Well.
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B
Oh, not a lot, but I just know, like, there's like, Real Houses of New York had a girl I know who was like, not married. So maybe you don't. I don't know. But it's standard to be married, though.
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A
Well, yeah, duh. Wait, what did you wear to the US Open?
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B
So we did. So I went with Amazon and they, like, dressed us. Tennis is just very, like. It's like loose fitting, summery color, so it's a lot of white. Like, all the ladies wear. Like, it's a lot of, like, pretty dresses. And the guys. It's like, you don't. It doesn't have to be, like, tucked in. It's like white linen pants. Like, I had a. Like.
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A
Yeah, like a swaggy kind of like a. Almost like a. The Hamptons type vibe, right?
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B
Yeah. On the seat. Honestly. Yes. But like, comfortable and like, summary. I did that. And then. Yeah, it was just a fun little day. You take the bus out and just like, watch some tennis. But there. I do know some people that were there because they are like tennis heads and know what's going on.
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A
For people who, like, I'd never been. And I think a lot of people just see it on tv. Like, I want to go, but really can't because it's during season. But, like, who, like, who's there? Like, what famous people are there? And, like, is the food good? Like, are there drinks everywhere? Like, give me the. Give me the setup.
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B
Give me the I wish we could. So the talk of the town, they have these drinks called. It's called a Honey Deuce. So obviously it's like honeydew and then deuce is like a fucking tennis word supposedly. Also I was in the suite with Kyle last night. He's like, guys, I have fun facts. Like I need to tell you, like just yelling. Oh God. He. He said that the. The revenue that they make from this one drink. So also it picture it's like a. It's like a little like summertime little cocktail. But then they stick. The toothpick is like three perfectly circled melons so that they look like tennis balls. And that goes in. That goes in the drink.
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A
Imagine having that job. That would suck ass. I'm the one who cut the frickin melon. Did circle.
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B
I bet they. I bet it's like a spoon or something. Yeah, a little. The revenue that they make from these drinks, which obviously very overpriced. It's enough to pay the prize money for the men's and women's champion of the US Open.
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A
You're lying.
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B
I swear to God. Let's Google it. Honestly, how much is it per drink? Dude, I think it's like 20. Most. The US Open sold a record $12.8 million worth of its signature Honey Deuce cocktail in 2024.
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A
Why?
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B
How with sales projected to reach over $10 million for the tournament and continually.
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A
To grow, can we like make our own drink and sell it? If people are making 10 million, you have me fucked up. We've drank it enough that we can come up with our own.
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B
It's Grey Goose. Vodka, lemonade, raspberry liqueur, and then the melon balls.
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A
Dude, low key. Sounds amazing.
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B
It's very summery.
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A
I would pay probably 23 bucks for that.
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B
Yeah, honestly.
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A
Or we can make it a little bit more white trash and maybe not use Grey Goose and maybe some Tito's or some Kettle. Yeah, we could. We could sell ours on the side.
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B
What did. What. What was the cheapest, like booze that people drank when you were like a freshman in college? Do you remember?
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A
Oh, like vodka. Smirnoff.
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B
UV Blue. Dude, there was this. There was a. There was a vodka in Montana called Nikolai. And they sold it in like the. The. The pint was plastic. Like it wasn't even glass.
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A
Did you ever drink Mad Dog?
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B
No. What is that?
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A
Why don't you go to your local liqueur store and see if they have it? Okay, but wait, hold on. So what was there like to eat there? Like Is the food bougie? Like, is everything bougie at the US Open? It looks like it. I just have never been so. I don't know.
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B
It definitely is. We were in a suite, so it was all very like for us. But I mean like it was. Yeah, it was like sushi and lobster rolls.
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A
Wait, was it a Bravo suite or was it just a.
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B
No, Amazon just took a bunch of like New York City people and we like all bust out there together. It was actually. It was really fun. Did you see the dude who crashed out last night and like yelled at the. The line judge?
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A
I on another planet, so.
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B
Yeah, that's right. Okay.
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A
I don't. I haven't really been keeping up.
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B
There was this guy, he's like, if I say his name, it'll just be it. It's like, Daniel, I don't know. People are gonna kill me. Medvedev, whatever.
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A
When is the US Open? Like when is the winner announced? But like when's the championship game?
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B
So if I'm going to keep, if I'm going to be so honest with you, I just kind of. The US Opens, one of those things. I just, I just show up. I don't know what the fuck's going on.
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A
I think a lot of people just show up to this one. Yeah, it's more for like the vibes and who you're going to be with. Type 5.
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B
Same with like. I mean I feel like that's the thing with a lot of sporting events. Like the reason I think that the super bowl is kind of like is it's so fucking corporate and like. It's not. Yeah, I mean there are, there are clearly fans, but it's like such a like businessy influencer celebrity event where like I hate to say it but championships with series. So like World Series, NBA Finals that are at like home stadiums are so sick because it's a home stadium. It's like fans who go to every game and you just get a little bit more of that like purity that you don't get from like a one off event.
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A
Honestly, I hear that about everyone who attends the super bowl and like the Jesus been in it, you know, because. But even the people there, they're like, I'd much rather stay at home and watch it with all my friends and stuff because when you get there, everyone makes it look like it's way more fun and stuff than it really is. So I just don't. I just. It's hard for me to get behind that type of stuff.
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B
Afc, AFC Championship is like at Arrowhead is the coolest, like, event I've ever been to and will always go to because it's, like, authentic. So magical.
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A
Do you get what I'm saying, though? Like, when. When people are authentic and like, the. The environment is authentic, that is the most fun. I hate, like, all the fake fluff. I just. I can't get behind that for some reason.
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B
How many do y' all do? How many, like, neutral site games have you played? Like, I know you did the thing in Iowa that. Where there was, like, so random. I actually can't believe that you guys did that.
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A
Well, that's like preseason and like in Caitlin, like, that. That it was random, but it made sense too, because you're still going to bring a crowd. But the W doesn't do neutral sites.
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B
Like, yeah, but name a sport that has played if a professional sport that's played it there at someone's alma mater. Like, that's never happened before. That's crazy.
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A
No, but it's becoming more of a thing. Like, they did it for Angel Reese at lsu. I think they. I think they'll continue to do it because it. Honestly, especially if you're. If there's a WNBA team that's not close by those universities, it's going to draw fans. And so I think it's actually really smart, especially if they have a following. Like, I think that. I think it's genius. I have no, I think it's fun kind of going back to the college stadiums and having those girls kind of get to be a part of it too, that, like, the. The girls who are actually a part of the team currently. And so I don't know. I think that's a smart move by the wnba. Look at me supporting it.
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B
No. Fuck. Yeah. Let's like, whatever a reverse fine is.
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A
Oh, for them to give me my money back because I said something wrong.
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B
Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
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A
But I mean, I just like wnba. I'm a proud supporter and. But it's just some of their stuff just doesn't make sense to me.
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B
Yeah, but I remember seeing you guys play at. In Iowa City and I was like.
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A
Dude, it's packed.
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B
So much clout, dude.
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A
I know. Speaking of W, we just. You want to get into it? Because I have some things to say get off my chest.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we. Indiana Fever have played Minnesota back to back and they're, like, really good. Like, they are. They are a hot team right now and they're doing so, so good. But to me, Minnesota's offense is. I know people have opinions about Cheryl, who's that's their head coach. But dude, she is a genius when it comes to frickin being a head coach. Like their offense.
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B
Like everything, how they play on the floor, how she manages like bench.
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A
Like yes. Like how they have stacked the team and like it is a little bit more old school but like I, I, that's my type of vibe I think like they run a motion offense. Everyone on their floor can shoot, everyone cuts, everyone passes the ball, they make the simple pass and like the ball movement that they have is ridiculous. Like they are, they are stacked and actually oh, Nafisa Collier. She was lived in Jeff City for a little bit and then she moved to St. Louis. So I played against Missouri.
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B
Girl.
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A
Yeah, since like 6th, 7th grade.
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B
What high school did she go to?
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A
She went to Incarnate Word.
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B
I know Incarnate Word's nice.
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A
Yeah. So she spent a year at Jeff City, I think her freshman year and then she, they moved to St. Louis to. For her to be a part of Incarnate Word which is like a stacked basketball.
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B
When we won state, what high school did you.
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A
I won four times, so which time?
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B
That's so fucking crazy. I so much can't believe that. Oh I guess your first two years then when I would have like been there I. Because wasn't one of them Incarnate Word?
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A
Yeah, I think so. She wasn't on, she wasn't on the team at the time. I think that was my freshman year. But Nafisa is good. Like she is. She's probably the best player in our league. She's a hell of a player.
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B
Damn.
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A
Yeah, like has every thing in her bag. But she also go, you go. No, you're good.
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B
I was gonna say would you you to credit like like high end ball movement to a head coach rather than just like a rock star teen chemistry.
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A
Yeah, well, I think, yeah, I think since Fee has been there. So Maya Moore, the legend of our game used to be there and then like they kind of went through a little, little bit of a slump and then they drafted into FISA and Fee, I'm not kidding. Like she, she's a hell of a player. Like she's defensive player of the year last year. I'm pretty sure she can guard one through five and then she can shoot.
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B
How tall is she?
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A
Like six two. But she, she's long and she's strong like she is. She's a hell of a player. She's fun to watch. Hard to play against, but she's fun to watch.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But I would say that the teams that you find or see successful in our league, they're. Everyone on, everyone on the floor can score and it's mainly shooters and. Or they can get to the rim or cutters. But it's really like the ball movement. Like when you have a motion offense that everyone can cut, everybody can pass, everyone can dribble and handle the ball. Like that is freaking hard to guard. And Minnesota has that. Like that's.
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B
Would you, would you say. I mean I feel like that kind of is parallel to the way the NBA is evolved or bigs are shooting the ball.
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A
Well. Yeah, like you don't really see a lot of standard post players anymore. And if you do right, they're really only in for a short period of time because normally typically they can't handle the pace of the game. Or like if they can't shoot the ball then like it allows defenses to help on other stronger players offensively. Or like they're in a drop position so they're like their defense is in the paint, which is never good. Especially if you have shooters coming off screens because that's easier for them to get a shot. Also it just makes it difficult. You don't really see a lot of those players anymore, do you?
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B
Like when do you think that that trend started? Like I think a lot of people would say that the NBA that started when like obviously Steph made the three point. Like yeah, the shot at fucking cheat code. And I mean Caitlin did that too but she's like very, very new. But it's interesting to see similarities between both leagues. I feel like. And certainly the value of the three point shot has grown and the like less of a need for like bigs.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Is it's so interesting how they kind of have like evolved in like very parallel manners.
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A
I think that what you first saw that in our game, I would say with like Candace Parker, like she was kind of the first like point forward. I would say like she, she's what, 6, 4, 6, 5? She can handle the ball, she can shoot it. But also if you try to put a little guard on her, she's going to take you to the post. And I think that's kind of where you saw the adjustment is on the NBA side and WNBA side. It's like these kids from a young age, regardless of how tall or how big they were going to be, they started doing ball handling, they started learning how to pass, they started doing more guard work than just typical post moves. And so like that think about it. That's hard to guard because if you have a small on you, you're just gonna go post them up. But if you have a big on you and you're on the perimeter, you're either gonna shoot or drive right by them because typically they're gonna be slower. So it just makes it a. I know my kids are going to be frigging guards. Like, they are going to learn how to be guards regardless of how big they are.
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B
That is so epic. It's fascinating. But anyways, Minnesota in the fever.
- [24:06]
A
Yep. Do you feel like they, you know what? We are going through it, but we are fighting like they're number one in the league right now, and they are. Our team has fought like, we only lost by. I don't know what it was last night. I can't remember the score, but we kept it within like 10 or 11 throughout the whole game. And for us to have the roster we do, that's pretty freaking big.
- [24:27]
B
What's it been like watching your roster just kind of get blown up and, like, you're just kind of trying to figure out from scratch? Like, I mean, it's frustrating, but at the same time, I, I, I. Sports are weird because, like, I know it sucks, but in the big picture, because it's, you know, the season is not going the way we'd all like. But like, yeah, there's weird, like, poetry and beauty and like, people are hurt. Like, other people have to, like, step up. We, like, no one believes in us. I just like watching it kind of play out and see who can rise up and like, I mean, other people getting opportunities. Like, there are silver linings and everything, but your team is just destroyed going through it.
- [25:11]
A
And I think that what you had to say, all of that is, like, so valid and real. And I think you've definitely felt that when you were playing. I, I also think that, like, with that, it's funny because any. The whole season as a whole, like, you just have to peak at the right time. Right? Like that. That's what it is. And so you see teams early in the season, like, oh, we didn't know they were going to be good. Well, maybe they peaked too soon. Or the teams that are typically good, they, they were going through it in the beginning and now they're starting to peak. Like Vegas, Atlanta has always been good all season long, and they're, they're going to be a hell of a team. But, but Vegas, I mean, they've won their past, like, 10 games, but they struggled really bad at the beginning of season, but they're starting to peak at the right time. But I think when you have a situation like this where it's just. You have a new roster literally every five days, it's like you want to peak, but at this point, you're just trying to catch some type of rhythm. You're trying to get chemistry. Like, we just brought in a girl who was training in Turkey, right? Like, she's been in the W, but she hasn't been the W in a couple years. And so it's just like, at some point, and this is me just being real, it's like you can. You can keep saying, oh, you know, it's just part of the game. It's just professional. But, like, you can. At the end of the day, it's hard to catch a rhythm and chemistry when you only have two days together. Like.
- [26:30]
B
Yeah.
- [26:30]
A
You know what I mean? Especially when you're going against the best athletes in the entire world like that. That shit's freaking hard.
- [26:36]
B
What to you is the right time to peak and how does that happen? Like, team chemistry? Well, I know it's everything, but from your lens, when is the right time to peak and how.
- [26:51]
A
I think you want to start peaking and you want to start really catching chemistry and rhythm after All Star break, or maybe a game or two before All Star break. Because I think that the team has to go through adversity. Like, you have to know how to handle tough situations. You have to learn how to lose bad and learn from it. Like, that's just a part of a season as far as the highs and lows. But I think you definitely want to start peaking and trending in the right direction, like, right after All Star Break, because that's when. That's when you have that momentum going. And so I think we actually were doing that. Like, we were. We were doing well before All Star break and right after. But then, man, like, the injury bug just came in and killed us all. Yeah, not all, but, you know, I mean.
- [27:39]
B
Well, I was just going to say one more thing.
- [27:41]
A
Yeah.
- [27:43]
B
You're an aunt now, or you already were, but.
- [27:46]
A
Yeah, dude, you know that when we were on our last podcast, they. She was like. She had her baby during that time.
- [27:54]
B
Like, before we cut.
- [27:56]
A
Yeah.
- [27:57]
B
Yeah. That's insane.
- [27:58]
A
Pippi club.
- [28:00]
B
Yeah. Give us the. Give us name weight.
- [28:02]
A
Oh, God.
- [28:03]
B
What her interests are going to be.
- [28:07]
A
Her name's Pippi Clark Hudson.
- [28:11]
B
Pippi is cute.
- [28:12]
A
Yeah.
- [28:13]
B
So cute. That's a very cute name.
- [28:17]
A
Yeah. And I think she was born at, like, 2:12 Central Time.
- [28:26]
B
Well, why we. What. What's her horoscope for everyone wondering or just let us know. What is she going to be like? Is she. Is she a ferocious leader? I think it's Lee. Is it Leo right now?
- [28:39]
A
She is born three days after my birthday.
- [28:42]
B
Oh, that's fun.
- [28:45]
A
So I'm either going to love her or want to kill her, because we're going to be a lot alike.
- [28:49]
B
I feel like you'll be a great. You're like. You were born to be an ant.
- [28:54]
A
Thanks. Does that mean I'm willing to be a mom?
- [28:58]
B
No, that is not what it means. It means you're.
- [29:01]
A
Thanks, West.
- [29:03]
B
No, it just means, like. It means, like, you'll be the cool ant who, like, breaks the rules a little and played in the WNBA thousand percent and can spoil them. Yeah, that's all positive.
- [29:14]
A
Cool. Rich ant. Great. Gonna have 100 cats a little bit.
- [29:18]
B
I'm only flexing this because I know that they watch the pod, but I'm literally on doordash.
- [29:24]
A
Dude. No joke. I literally use DoorDash probably seven to ten times a week.
- [29:31]
B
Well, now it's going to be worse because you're stuck at home.
- [29:34]
A
Wow. All right, what's going in. Going on in your world? Anything fun? Anything upcoming? Like, update us?
- [29:40]
B
Actually, good question. See this jacket?
- [29:43]
A
Yeah.
- [29:44]
B
Um, it's so. It's. They're called Pluto Golf. It's like a golf streetwear brand. They're, like. They're, like, meeting in the middle. So it's like, all golf stuff, but it's kind of just, like, swaggy anyways. And it's a collab with Captain Morgan, and it's.
- [29:58]
A
Dude, I was wondering. No, it looks real swaggy. Is it kind of like a ski top or, like, what material is that?
- [30:05]
B
It's like. I don't know. It's a. It's like. It feels like a rain jacket, like, because it's still for golf. So, like, it's for outside. Dude, I know you're freezing. Well, we had to cut my fan off because it was too loud. I'm actually okay today, but I got. I, like, modeled for them and so. And then these dropped last week or, like, on Saturday.
- [30:29]
A
Wait, you did some modeling?
- [30:31]
B
Yeah. Forgot, like, golf pictures. Did you not see? It's kind of sick. I feel like I'm, like. I'm working on it. Like, they're kind of fun. It never picks up.
- [30:43]
A
Oh, did I do it or. No, go back. Yeah, right there. Yeah. Your vibe.
- [30:49]
B
Yeah, like, there. It's, like, cool stuff. And then I did, like, in a studio, like, with a Golf club.
- [30:53]
A
And, dude, we need to do something like that together, I think. Oh, so many people are asking for us to drop merch. We need to get on that.
- [31:02]
B
Yeah. Figure out what. What it would be like. I want to just make Rockbridge High School vintage T shirts. The only thing I want to do.
- [31:14]
A
Okay, we'll sell those on the side. You could do. You know what? The world is ours. We could do whatever the hell we want. And so we can do that. We can do our merch. We can have a shirt with your face on it. A shirt with my face on it. Together, our faces.
- [31:31]
B
Did you get. You got your bandana, dude.
- [31:33]
A
Yeah, but I My.
- [31:35]
B
Oh, my God. You're not gonna even have a tunnel walk through this year.
- [31:38]
A
No, I am. I am. And I'm literally going just for you.
- [31:42]
B
Hello.
- [31:43]
A
Oh, dude, guess what.
- [31:46]
B
What?
- [31:46]
A
Guess who I kind of get to model for. Who? It's. She does all the really cool jackets for all, like, the wives.
- [31:55]
B
Kristin Juszek. Kristen.
- [31:57]
A
Yeah. So she. Her. Her company, off brand, like, her designer brand. She is going to the W, and so I'm going to be one of the first W players to rock her style. And tomorrow's out in tomorrow's tunnel fit.
- [32:10]
B
Wait. Hell yeah. Is it, like, similar to, like, the football one she did, but she made. She made Taylor a coat.
- [32:16]
A
Yeah.
- [32:16]
B
That was sick.
- [32:17]
A
Okay, first of all, I want to give her a huge shout out because she seems, like, never met her in person, but she seems like the nicest human. And she's skeptical, Stunning. Like, I actually stunned.
- [32:26]
B
This is so random you bring her up. Because at the flag football thing I was at, they were all like, oh, we partnered with Christian music. I forget what it was for, but they were, like, glowing talking about her. So she's.
- [32:39]
A
We need to get her on the podcast.
- [32:41]
B
That would be sick because that would be so tight.
- [32:43]
A
I. I told her I'm coming, like, to a game. We're gonna hang out. She seems like my type of chick.
- [32:48]
B
Wait, Ashley, will you sprinkle that to her?
- [32:53]
A
Yes.
- [32:53]
B
Like, yeah, before someone else. That would be really fun because she's, like, very much in the NFL world, but also, like, a fashionista.
- [33:02]
A
What if she styled us and we did, like, an in person?
- [33:06]
B
Dude, I think she made Paige Desorbo a jacket from super bowl this past year.
- [33:12]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [33:13]
B
She's, like. She's, like, really crushing.
- [33:16]
A
Yeah, I really like her.
- [33:17]
B
Well, dude, we're kind of, like, in sync right now.
- [33:20]
A
No, it's weird.
- [33:22]
B
Yesterday, Abercrombie announced that they're The. They're the official merchandiser of the NFL. How crazy is that?
- [33:30]
A
I kind of like that.
- [33:32]
B
No, it's sick.
- [33:34]
A
When's the last time you've been to it?
- [33:36]
B
I've been in one, but, like, I wear their stuff all the time. They. They have, like, the best Abercrombie might have had the best rebrand in the history of, like, the world possibly. Remember, they were the moose and the. And the cologne and, like.
- [33:54]
A
I know, and it still smells good, but I went in there when we played out in Phoenix at Fashion Square Mall. No, no joke. Their shit's kind of expensive. Yeah, I think they're a little pricey.
- [34:06]
B
I think they want to keep the allure that they're, like, not cheap and so. But they just. They have so much cool stuff. I have cheese stuff from them.
- [34:16]
A
Wait, do you. Do you feel like you're more of a bargain and cheap buyer? Are you more like, let's get. Let me be boozy. Let me spend some money.
- [34:26]
B
I don't buy. Like, I don't really wear a designer. Like, everything I wear is from ebay or, like, thrift Stop. Thrift stores.
- [34:32]
A
Oh, thrift shop.
- [34:36]
B
But I've. Thanks for asking that, because I. If. If I was wearing designer, I feel like everyone else would be wearing it, and I feel like I've kind of carved my own little niche for fashion. And it's very. It's. It's like individual pieces. It's like stuff I find on ebay, or, like, cool pants from, like, random places and just, like, piecing everything together. I don't really. I don't think that a name like this is gonna sound so corny, but, like, yeah, a designer name or, like, watched is not, like, it doesn't do it for me, to be honest. I get it, but I rather, like, puzzle an outfit together than. Yeah, buy a shirt that, like, says fucking Gucci on it or some shit.
- [35:20]
A
You know, I think. I think having good staple pieces that you can mix and match are good. I don't think I would ever buy. I don't think I would ever truly, really buy designer clothes. But I think my reasoning for it is, one, it's just too overpriced, and it's not really me, but really, like, I can't eat or go out without spilling stuff on me. I think that's an issue.
- [35:46]
B
That's perfect.
- [35:47]
A
Yeah.
- [35:47]
B
But what about. What about pregame? Do you, like. Do you have a stylist for pregame?
- [35:53]
A
Yeah, sometimes. And, like, the ones you can tell. The ones that she does. And like, I, I will spend money on clothes. Like, I like looking nice and I like dressing up. Like, I think that's super fun. But I just, I'm saying, like, I, I could never get myself to spend, like, like when people spend a thousand, a thousand plus dollars on like a white shirt that you could literally get at Zara or Walmart or Target.
- [36:17]
B
Yeah.
- [36:18]
A
That all look the same. Like, I could never get myself to do something like that. But I do, like, good staples and whatnot. Does that make sense?
- [36:25]
B
Yeah, of course I, I'll say I've done designer or like high end brand stuff if I'm like, borrowing it for true. Like when, when we do like reunions and shit. Like, I'll wear like the, the, the suit will be expensive, but it's like, for the day.
- [36:40]
A
Yeah.
- [36:41]
B
And then it gets returned to like, wherever.
- [36:43]
A
Yeah, I think that's valid. But I also think, like, I've done that before and then like, I end up really liking the pants. And so maybe a couple hundred. Maybe, you know, and like, but I wear them all the time. Like, they get good use and they're gonna last.
- [36:56]
B
People don't talk about this enough. But once you're doing stuff like your tunnel fits or like, a lot of the places I'm going are like, on tv and now we have Instagrams. You can't really be an outfit repeater.
- [37:08]
A
No, you can't.
- [37:10]
B
Which is why I feel like I try to keep, like, make the outfit puzzle it together. So then you can kind of like reuse a piece or like something else.
- [37:20]
A
Yes.
- [37:20]
B
And people might not notice. But you can't, like, you literally cannot be an outfit repeater or.
- [37:25]
A
No, I know, but I think that's just against rules. I think that's so good that you said that because I think when, when people are like, oh, you are like, no, like, that's a good staple piece. That's what I meant by that. Like, good having good solid pants that you can wear with multiple outfits. Good solid shirt or a jacket. Like, I think that's valid because I used to not like, use a stylist that, like, she goes and gets the clothes and I wear them and then I give them back. Like, I'm not paying for, I'm just paying for her service. But when I didn't do that, you rack up so many clothes and it's like, it's stupid. Like, it's so dumb. Like, and I, I don't know, I end up giving them away anyway. So I'd much rather not Pay for that type of stuff.
- [38:05]
B
Part of the main reason I like really needed to move this summer was I. And, and also like you and I get gifted stuff a lot.
- [38:13]
A
So there's like much.
- [38:15]
B
There's like that part of the clothing collection that like is. It just adds to it. But I would. I, I lived in and I split in the little New York apartment. Like there's not. You can't be a hoarder or like keep all your stuff if you live in New York City. Like, it kind of, it kind of an interesting thing with New York City apartments is you have to be creative with storage closet space where you're putting stuff. Like it's, it's fun to go to his apartment and see like, oh, like you're using this for storage. Like, here's where your suits are, here's where your shoes are. In New York, you cannot keep the stuff. It's like really hard because you'll be overflow, like overflowing over.
- [39:04]
A
I've learned to give. I've learned to give mine away. Like, I've learned like other people want, want that stuff and like I don't want to throw it away because a lot of this stuff is really nice and like I'll keep what I want or I'll use it and then I'll give it away. But like my house in Phoenix, I designated a whole room that is a toddler's room as another closet and that's even over packed. I'm like, okay, this is getting out of control. Like I need to. I've been blessed with a lot, so it's time for me to give back. Here's all.
- [39:32]
B
Did you level up like living situations when you move to Indy? Like is your apartment bigger?
- [39:41]
A
Well, I lived in a house in Phoenix, so I don't know if it's leveling up, but I think the team, housing wise, that this is bigger. But you also like, the market of Phoenix and the market of Indy are two different.
- [39:54]
B
Wait. I think people would be really interested to know how that works. So like say you get traded, you're moving to a new city. Sometimes across the country you don't have time to probably pack up your house or move everything because you have to do press, you have practice, you have like stuff to do. How does the team like help you when you're in the process of like moving to Indy?
- [40:17]
A
Yeah, so they will. I got lucky because I had months to kind of prepare. But even with that, they will pay for, they pay for shipping. They, they do all that. So Anything you have to move, if it's your car, plus bags, plus whatever they pay for all that. And so each team will. Will do that. And then you can choose to do team housing, which is paid for by the team. You're living rent free. Typically you are in an apartment or you can get like a stipend of X amount of money a month if you want to, like, live, buy, get a house, or do whatever. And so I think it really depends on how long your contract is for. One, if you like the city, if you're wanting to buy, if you're wanting to be here year round, like, all that stuff kind of comes into play. But the W does give you options. I think in this next cba, hopefully it'll be a little bit more money, a little bit better options. But I will say, like, Phoenix did a really good job of, I think in the last two years I was with them with team housing. Like, we stayed at the nicest places. And then Indiana, they. They really take care of you here too. So I've been. I've been lucky there because there's some teams that. Not great.
- [41:26]
B
What's the. Like. Like, how long of a contract do you think someone for any sport would need before they wanted to, like, look into buying a house? Like, it's just so, like, I don't know, not in your control. Would just feel, like, so super overwhelming to me.
- [41:44]
A
Well, I would say I think it depends too. Like, are you married? Do you have a family? Are you wanting to start a family? Do you have pets? Like, like all that stuff comes into play. But I do think that, like, if you're there for, I think two years, I would really say three is comfortable. I think if you're there for three years, then I'd look into buying a house, even two years. Because you're there a lot. Right? But I don't know, I think a lot of people really still use team housing. Like, think about it. I'm. I'm 28 and I'm living rent free. Like, I don't. Besides, like, my phone and car. Well, actually, it's starting to, but I really am kind of living expense free besides a couple things, so it's kind of nice.
- [42:28]
B
That's so awesome. Save your money, Sophie.
- [42:31]
A
Yeah.
- [42:33]
B
Okay. Well, obviously you and I be Chiefs fans, but you do live in Indianapolis. Yeah, I. I've always wondered also as, like, professional athletes, like, you're in the city and like, those fans who like, root for the Fever are like, definitely Colts and Pacers fans.
- [42:52]
A
Yeah.
- [42:52]
B
Do you Feel an obligation going into this fall to, like, you don't. You don't need to, like, claim the Colts or the Colts, but, like. But, like, support them. Maybe pop it into a game where little blue. Like. Or are you Chiefs only. I'll never. I'll. I won't even look at the Colts. Also, Daniel Jones, new starting quarterback. Congrats on us. It's very exciting.
- [43:15]
A
Is that a good thing?
- [43:17]
B
I would probably say no.
- [43:18]
A
Oh, but I don't know enough about.
- [43:21]
B
They'll figure it out.
- [43:23]
A
Yeah, I'm not a. I don't. That's the. That's my issue is I like to kind of in. Is it engulf or indulge? Engulf myself.
- [43:33]
B
Well, indulge, then is probably what I would indulge.
- [43:36]
A
I like to kind of indulge myself of where my two feet are at and, like, what city I'm in. And so, like, when I was in Phoenix, I became a Diamondbacks fan and a Cardinals fan and, like, a Coyotes fan. They moved. So, like, I really try to be. I want to get involved in the city. Like, I like that. And so here, I've definitely become a Pacers fan. I think that I'll definitely go and check out the Colts. Like, I don't have any beef with them. I don't. I don't.
- [44:04]
B
Beautiful stadium. Beautiful stadium.
- [44:06]
A
I mean, I can see it.
- [44:08]
B
Yeah.
- [44:09]
A
From my apartment. But I think, like, deep down, I always have my. My team, which is the Chiefs. But I'm so down to go and support the team. Like, I'm all for that. I'm not. I'm not weird about that.
- [44:20]
B
I think of, like. Like Jayson Tatum, for example.
- [44:24]
A
Yeah.
- [44:24]
B
Like, in Boston. Could be a Red Sox fan. That dude loves St. Louis so much that he. Like, it's Cardinals hats, Cardinals jerseys, blues jerseys, like, no matter what.
- [44:38]
A
But, dude, think about it. He was raised in St. Louis, though. Like, if we were in Columbia, where we get to pick. So it's a little different.
- [44:44]
B
Yeah. Well, no, but I just mean the. The opportunity you have to either embrace the city that you're going to be in or just stick to, like, where you're from. And I. I don't think there's a wrong answer, but, like, he fully is, like, St. Louis all the way, and I admire him for that. But there's also people who, like, you know, do embrace the city they're in and kind of, like, become one with that city.
- [45:10]
A
Well, I think that I'm not. No, I get that, and I get what you're saying. I think for me, I am not shy. Like, everyone knows I'm a huge Chiefs fan. Like, and I am.
- [45:17]
B
Yeah.
- [45:18]
A
Like, if. If Colts and Chiefs are playing Chiefs all the way. You know what I mean? But, like, of course. Will I go and support the Colts for a game? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [45:26]
B
I think it's perfect, and it's just good to like it. It's nice to get in front of the same sports fans who, like, show you love in indie and, like, support their other team. Like, I think that's totally the right play.
- [45:39]
A
Wait, do you want to know something, though? I will say, like, when I. When I went to a Cardinals game, though, the whole time, I was just, like, kind of judging and comparing how much better.
- [45:53]
B
Oh, Arrowhead, Arizona Cardinals.
- [45:56]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, I was just comparing everything to, like, how much better the Chiefs and our stadium and our tailgating and our fans are not a lot of me. I am a lot more hardcore than I think.
- [46:08]
B
Not a lot of venues are going to compete with Arrowhead, and you and I are biased, but I will die on Taunt. Dead. That's dope.
- [46:17]
A
Yeah.
- [46:18]
B
What else before I see you next time? Hopefully you have a BM for the next podcast.
- [46:24]
A
Baby mama. Kidding.
- [46:26]
B
Bowel movement. Oh, you knew.
- [46:29]
A
Hopefully you have a bm. Dude, is there anything else going in your world this week? Anything that we should look forward to next week?
- [46:37]
B
I did a charity event on Thursday for a dog. It's not a dog shelter in New York City, but it's for abandoned dogs to, like, are actively being fostered and need homes. And it was. It felt so good to, like. And I, like, when I film the show throughout the summer, there's a lot of bars and a lot of drinking and, like, drama, you know, and it feels good to, like, really do something that, like, is important and, like, helps people. And they were so thankful and so nice. And, like, basically, we got up one of my favorite bars. They just brought, like, six of the dogs in and just let them, like, hang out. And then the bar, the bar tab, a percentage of it went to, like, their medical bills. And then all the people who were fostering them came too. And so, like, the idea is that people can meet them and then hopefully adopt, but even if it's just a day to give the dogs, like, some love and bring them outside, it was like, oh, my God. One of them, his name is Mac. We were doing a little picture booth, and he walked up and he, like, wasn't, like, he couldn't really focus because he was, like, so Overstimulated, and I'm sitting right by it. And then he takes two steps across my lap and just stops and sits in my lap.
- [47:51]
A
And I was like, heart melted. Wait. Can I ask you something?
- [47:55]
B
Yeah.
- [47:56]
A
Do you think. Because I think Bravo and complex and what you do has given you the platform to do stuff like that, but do you feel like you catch yourself wanting to do stuff that is, like, more fulfilling?
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B
What I love, naturally, probably the most apparent is, like, sports. I've played sports my whole life. I feel like sports is the reason I see my family a lot in the fall. I see my friends because of sports. Like, not just being an athlete, but, like, the culture of sports has played a huge role in my life, and I feel like that's something I'm just kind of not leaving, despite the, like, TV show of it all. Like, I'm still doing, like, NFL Network. And, like, I mean, I would consider you and I doing a sports podcast, but, like, as far as, like, charity goes, I do think dogs is so easy for me, just coming from a family that, like, has always had, like, animals, big animals, always had dogs. Like, not that I don't empathize with human beings. Like, there's a zillion charities for, like, great causes, but there's just something about animals that I feel, like. Feels so rewarding. And I don't know how to, like, grow, like, necessarily, like, where growing in, like, the charity lane comes. But, like, obviously, we do have platforms, and we're given opportunities to, like, give back. And I think I've found that a lot of the times, once you kind of step into something with your platform, like, give it a shot, then it kind of. It grows on its own. So, like, yeah, I did a dog event in, like, June in Central park, and, like, I think that, you know, people saw, oh, he's doing work with, like, for animals in New York, and then it just kind of grows. So, like, yeah, I would do that. And obviously, my family has cows and horses if someone, you know, want to do anything. But also, I will say only because I was talking to someone about this last night in the. In the little suite, but given my mom's work, I do find, like, women's health and, like, women's rights to be something that I. I find interesting, just given I've. I've listened to my mom learn and grow and, like, have so many, like, fierce opinions about just, like, where women's health is. And I feel like that's something that I've. I've been, like, a little Bit vocal on and we'll see if that like picks up. But I, I met someone last night. He works for like a women's health charity and like, I'm gonna talk with him, like doing stuff. So that's another niche one. But I think it's important for it to like come from somewhere so that it's not just like throwing a dart on a board and being like, oh, let me like choose to care about this now. Like, these are all things that are like, like I grew up caring about. So.
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A
Yeah, well, I. It kind of goes back to like the. Not to bring it back to this, but it's like the same type of viber or perspective of like going to a Super bowl when it's all corporate and it's not authentic. Yeah, yeah. You're doing something like a charity or something you want to get behind and support. If you don't fully believe in it, then you're just going to half ass it and that's never going to be good. But like, you actually are authentic and you care about it and it's something you're passionate about. Then like, that totally reflects of how you're going to handle and how you're going to treat whatever. People notice that type of stuff. So I like, yeah, and I, and.
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B
I, and I ran into a lot of like charity events for cancer because Jesse Solomon is two time survivor and like, yeah, clearly that's such a natural cause for him to like be vocal on and get back to. And so I've been doing stuff with him and it's almost like, yes, I am with him at doing something for the greater good, but it's almost like watching him get to give back in something that affected his life and something that he really, really cares about is almost like just as cool for me to do with him, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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B
So stuff like. That's super dope.
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A
I love that. I love that.
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B
I feel like that's a good way to end on like the most positive note ever.
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A
I agree.
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B
Are you gonna pop some pills? Might as well.
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A
I'm 45 minutes past yes. I need to.
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B
That's beautiful. We're saying goodbye so Sophie can take some painkillers. But I just want to give a shout out for the end of this podcast. Week one of college football. This weekend, Montana State plays at Oregon. And I just got to say, go Cats. I couldn't do this whole podcast without saying, go Cats. Fucking. Let's go into Austin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon, and shock the country. Boys and girls go duck hunting. I don't know who Mizzou plays, but Montana State. Go get it done.
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A
And I'll give a little shout out. My little cousin. First time playing in the Mizzou uniform. Let's go get. Bye, guys.
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B
Bye. So from and bye, everyone.
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A
Later. All right, everybody. If you have a question for me or west for us both about love, life, advice, or you just want us to talk about certain things, you guys can actually call us now. So the hotline number is 573. That's Missouri 227-8622. You can leave us a voicemail and we will hit it on next week's episode. Hit us up. Clap our lines. This is an iHeart podcast.