Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on WNBA CBA negotiations, Good Morning America & West’s viral World Series moment

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Episode: Show Me Something — Sophie Cunningham on WNBA CBA Negotiations, Good Morning America & West’s Viral World Series Moment

Release Date: November 1, 2025
Guests/Hosts: Sophie Cunningham, Wes

Episode Overview

This episode is a lively and candid catch-up between WNBA star Sophie Cunningham and co-host Wes. The pair dive into recent personal adventures, key WNBA CBA updates, viral sports moments, and behind-the-scenes stories. The episode blends humor, inside sports talk, and real-life struggles—like sleep deprivation and moving houses—with thoughtful commentary on current events in the sports world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Energy Struggle & Life on the Move

• Opening (02:48-04:25):
  Both Sophie and Wes joke about their exhaustion, each surviving on barely any sleep because of the hectic schedules—Sophie due to cross-country flights and house-hunting, Wes from a wild media and sporting events stretch.

  "I pulled two all nighters ... just from flying from one coast to another…"
  — Sophie Cunningham (04:09)

  "I’ve slept like eight minutes in the last week and I could not be more excited to be here..."
  — Wes (02:58)

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2. Sophie's Good Morning America Experience & Arby’s Collab

• GMA Appearance (04:25-10:09):
  Sophie glows about her fun, whirlwind trip to New York where she walked the city, appeared on Good Morning America (GMA) for an Arby's segment, and met the show's hosts (notably, Robin and Ginger). The segment focused on how “hot girls eat” and featured Arby’s steak nuggets—a product Sophie helped make viral.

  "The people there are absolutely so, so nice. The hair and makeup were great. I met Robin. I met Ginger. Like, everyone that I met was just..."
  — Sophie Cunningham (05:11)

• Virality & Steak Nuggets (05:52-09:06):
  Sophie's “Arby’s shirt” sells out after the segment, and there’s talk of viral steak nugget challenges, with hopes of having the “steak nugget guy” on as a podcast guest.

  "RV shirt went absolutely viral and has been like, completely sold out really, since I've worn it..."
  — Sophie Cunningham (05:56)

• Upcoming Arby’s Launch (07:05-08:28):
  Sophie hints at testing Arby’s secret menu items—including a soon-to-launch deep fried turkey sandwich ("the Gobbler"), which gets the hosts hyped for Thanksgiving.

  "They're about to come out with a deep fried turkey sandwich... the Gobbler. Deep fried turkey, cornbread stuffing, cranberry spread and crispy onions, basically Thanksgiving in sandwich form."
  — Wes (08:01)

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3. Wes’s Viral World Series Moment & Travel Blitz

• Baseball & Air Drums at the World Series (02:48-14:04):
  Wes recounts his viral clip during a Jonas Brothers concert mid-baseball game, describing awkward air drumming on national TV. They debate the Internet’s harsh reaction to the concert interruption.

  "I can't really hear what's going on. I don't know this song. So I was like, I'll just air drums... The song just ends when the fucking FOX broadcast was like zoomed in on my face..."
  — Wes (02:48, repeated at 13:33)

• Non-Stop Travel: Toronto, Vegas, Kansas City, Milwaukee (11:22-15:38):

  • Toronto for World Series

  • Vegas for ComplexCon (impromptu interviews with Quavo, Ty Dolla $ign, and J.R. Smith, with rapper Ty Dolla $ign doing his interview while holding a lit joint).

  • Kansas City for a Chiefs event, where Wes dressed in disguise for a hidden-camera segment.

  • Milwaukee for a live "Chicks in the Office" podcast event

    "I literally got into Vegas, go to the hotel, check in, body shower... then I get straight to the venue, and they're like, Quavo's here. Like, can you interview?"
    — Wes (14:04)

    "Ty Dolla $ign did the whole interview with a lit fudgeing J in his hand."
    — Wes (15:49)

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4. The New York City Marathon & Marathon Mindsets

• Why the NYC Marathon Is So Special (23:43-24:42):
  Wes speaks about the emotional impact of the marathon—highlighting universal humanity and collective celebration.

  "It's the best day of, like, humanity you could ever find."
  — Wes (24:23)

• Sophie’s (Reluctant) Marathon Plans (26:02-29:39):
  Sophie reveals her surprising plan to attempt the Honolulu Marathon post-WNBA season, despite calling marathoners "mentally ill (in a loving way)," saying she’ll do it for Hawaii's happiness and with no commitment to running the whole way.

  "I’ve always thought you have to be mentally ill to do any type of marathon... I’m actually doing a full marathon next year."
  — Sophie Cunningham (26:19)

  "If I get tired or whatever, I’m just gonna walk and look at the ocean and look at the mountains. Like, I’ll be fine. I’m not gonna run the whole thing."
  — Sophie Cunningham (27:30)

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5. Personal Updates: Moving, Homes, and Uprooting

• Sophie’s Big Move (19:37-31:45):
  Sophie details the challenges, emotions, and logistics of moving—shouting out her movers and reflecting on the bittersweet feeling of leaving a cherished home, especially after being traded soon after settling in.

  "I barely have anywhere to do anything, so I’m trying to get organized… Honestly, kind of sad. It’s like leaving a little era and... I made it really homey and cozy."
  — Sophie Cunningham (31:06, 31:17)

  "If you’re a pro athlete, actually, do not decorate your house until you have a fucking three-year contract in front of you."
  — Wes (31:46)

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6. WNBA CBA Negotiations: Insights from the Inside

• Explaining the CBA Process (32:24-33:10):
  Sophie educates listeners about how lockouts work, describing that as long as both players and league sides continue negotiations, there’s no lockout.

  "If both sides are continuing to negotiate and trying to come up with something, then you're still... not in a lockout. But once one side...stops... that's when a lockout happens."
  — Sophie Cunningham (32:32)

• Sophie's Perspective on the Business Side:

  "It's been very fascinating. Just like the ins and outs of the negotiation conversations. What they're doing, what they're not doing..."
  — Sophie Cunningham (33:10)

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7. College Basketball Culture Wars: Mizzou Student Section Drama

• Strong Opinions on Student Sections vs. VIPs (33:44-39:50):
  The hosts lament Missouri’s decision to remove iconic student seating near the court in favor of paid VIP seats, pairing personal experience with passionate defense of tradition and college sports culture.

  "Our student section is one of, like... the best. And, like, we were right on top of people... They put the opposing bench right by the student section for a reason, and now we're just pushed back."
  — Sophie Cunningham (34:13)

  "To take that away, to put rich people who will be sitting down probably, like, it is just... It's not a good vibe."
  — Wes (35:53)

  "It's like, almost like NIL is ruining... the culture of college basketball. But now just the money has always ruined the culture of really anything because they don't put the fun people there."
  — Sophie Cunningham (39:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I've maybe slept ten [minutes]. Like we are. I pulled two all nighters." — Sophie Cunningham (04:09)
• "So on Good Morning America, it was a very kind of like, quick snippet, but we were talking about how hot girls eat... RV shirt went absolutely viral." — Sophie Cunningham (05:56)
• "Ty Dolla $ign did the whole interview with a lit fudgeing J in his hand." — Wes (15:49)
• "It's the best day of, like, humanity you could ever find." — Wes on NYC Marathon (24:23)
• "I want to push myself to see if I can actually do it." — Sophie Cunningham on marathon plans (29:26)
• "If you're a pro athlete, actually, do not decorate your house until you have a fucking three-year contract in front of you." — Wes (31:46)
• "Our student section is one of... the best... They put the opposing bench right by the student section for a reason, and now we're just pushed back... not the same vibes." — Sophie Cunningham (34:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:25 – 10:09: Good Morning America experience and Arby’s collaboration
• 13:33 – 14:04: Wes describes viral World Series air-drum moment
• 14:04 – 15:49: Vegas ComplexCon interviews (Quavo, Ty Dolla $ign)
• 24:23 – 25:13: Emotional impact of the NYC Marathon
• 26:02 – 29:30: Sophie explains her decision to attempt a marathon
• 31:06 – 31:46: Sophie’s big move and athlete housing dilemmas
• 32:24 – 33:10: Explaining WNBA CBA and lockouts
• 34:13 – 39:03: Mizzou student section seating controversy & college sports culture

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Tone & Style

Conversational, humorous, and refreshingly candid. The banter is casual with plenty of inside jokes and strong opinions, matched by moments of real insight into athlete experiences and sports industry realities.

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Overall: This episode serves up a blend of sports culture critique, insider athlete perspective (especially on the WNBA CBA), viral sports media moments, and personal stories, all delivered with warmth, wit, and a down-to-earth touch.

Transcript

[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Wes]

People were like, why? Why the fuck would you have a Jonas Brothers concert like in the middle of a baseball game? I didn't think that it was that bad. The Internet was beside themselves per usual. And so I'm just like, all right, what do I do? I can't really hear what's going on. I don't know this song. So I was like, I'll just air drums. I'm just going to air drums for like the whole song. So I'm airdrie drumming air drumming. And the song just ends when the fucking FOX broadcast was like zoomed in on my face and I was like. And then it stopped and I, it was like kind of awkward, but I, it, I, I, it was fine. I was just trying my best. One, two, three. Good morning. Show me something podcast. I've slept like eight minutes in the last week and I could not be more excited to be here with Sophie freaking Cunningham and you guys. I'm freaking dialed.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm glad that you're bringing the energy because I feel like death. Oh my gosh.

[Wes]

But like a sickness or like a lack of sleep or.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You've slept eight. I've maybe slept ten. Like we are. I pulled two all nighters the other night or like the other week for no reason.

[Wes]

Just. Just being a baller. Just being a badass.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, just like from flying from like one coast to another and just like being so.

[Wes]

Oh, oh, coast. Okay. We talked about this last episode. We missed each other in New York because you're cute ass did Good Morning America. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap clap. Woo.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Wes]

All right, let's talk about it. News anchor.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I should have like some anchorman tiktoks or something. I just wasn't thinking because it was so early.

[Wes]

Dude, isn't that the worst when like you, you're in these environments where like you can just crush a like TikTok bit and you fully forget.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Wes]

But first problems.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. So I was in Florida because I was looking for a house. Probably not going to do that for a while. Yeah, we'll talk after a while. But so then I flew up to New York and it was so fun. Walked around the city for like 3 hours. Got some dumplings, went to bed at like 7pm Woke up at like 4am because of just. I don't know why. And then we went straight to Good morning America and it was amazing. The people there are absolutely so, so nice. The hair and makeup were great. I met Robin. I met Ginger. Like, everyone that I met was just.

[Wes]

Robin was posting you up in the green room, dude.

[Sophie Cunningham]

She was. She was so cool. Like, she was so cool. I was like, oh, my gosh, this is awesome. But I was there with Arby's and it was amazing. I was eating like steak bites at like 7, 8am it was nice.

[Wes]

There's no wrong. There's no wrong time to have a steak bite. Let's get that. Let's cover that right away.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It was good too. So on Good Morning America, it was a very kind of like, quick snippet, but we were talking about how hot girls eat. RV shirt went absolutely viral and has been like, completely sold out really, since I've worn it, which has been kind of cool. But RB's most popular item has become the steak nuggets. Dude. How kind of cool is that? Yes.

[Wes]

Well, we should shout out that the guy who went viral for eating fucking 40 of them by himself and in Arby's. Dude. Can we get that guy as our first guest on the pod? Steak nugget guy.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So good.

[Wes]

He probably sold out half of that whatever. Wherever that Arby's was.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I know, probably. But I will say too. They were talking to me in the test kitchen down in Georgia. They want me to come test out some of the new stuff that they're doing. How awesome would that be?

[Wes]

Dude, you get to wear like a hair net and, and like an apron and just go try.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yep.

[Wes]

How sick.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Be awesome.

[Wes]

Do you know what any of the. What it. What it could be?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, I think this one is like. This is like stuff that they haven't even thought about or put out yet. So that's going to be exciting. But I do know that they're about to come out with a deep fried turkey sandwich.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Oh.

[Wes]

Wow.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I don't even. I know. I don't even know what that would look like.

[Wes]

Yeah. How it. What does it look like?

[Sophie Cunningham]

But it sounds.

[Wes]

Some people do fry turkey on Thanksgiving, but. But I have never seen it in a sandwich.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Me either.

[Wes]

Do you think it's like a Thanksgiving. Is it like. I mean, it's definitely like a Thanksgiving rollout. That sounds. Can I be honest? I want that now.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, whatever.

[Wes]

You put gravy. You put gravy on it.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Probably.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. Dude. Sounds good. I think that sounds so good. I also found out that New York only has one Arby's in the whole city.

[Wes]

Yes. I just looked up what the deep fried turkey sandwich looks like.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Wes]

Okay, you ready for this?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, I want to look it up while you're talking.

[Wes]

I think they're calling it the Gobbler. Star of the show is the Gobbler. Deep fried turkey, cornbread stuffing, cranberry spread and crispy onions, basically. Thanks. Okay, so yeah, Thanksgiving. It's basically Thanksgiving in sandwich form. And it's going to come out in November.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Holy fuck.

[Wes]

Does that mean tomorrow? Oh, yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh.

[Wes]

I'm just going to go to Jacksonville and be. What you do in Jacksonville. I'm like, I ate the deep fried turkey sandwich, the Gobbler in Jacksonville, and I made sure that I found it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, that is too good. The reason I found out there was only one Arby's in New York, though, is because I was getting my hair done and my makeup done and they're. They all were asking about the steak nuggets and they're like, we can't find an Arby's in New York. And I was like, well, missing out.

[Wes]

Hey, I will say, those people, like, obviously I don't, Like, I'm not watching Good Morning America every day, but everyone on that show, I feel like they've been doing it for a thousand years and bringing the best vibes every single day of their whole lives.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Like, they seem so genuine and sweet and positive and like just sweet little angels that wake up at 4:30am every day.

[Sophie Cunningham]

They truly are. And just like the producers, the people who. The directors, the people who let us in, like, from security all the way to, like, the people that we know. Everyone is so friendly. Like, it was amazing.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I was so shocked.

[Wes]

Did you get to, like. I mean, like, if anyone watched, we could all tell it was like an Arby's related situation. Did they. Did you get time to, like. Like, did they ask you anything? Like, that wasn't prompted or was it pretty like, get in, get out?

[Sophie Cunningham]

So I think that. I don't know. Well, I do know that, like, Disney kind of told our good friends at Arby's that, like, the segment would be a lot longer. Like, a lot longer. And then something happened. And then. So it was already cut to, like, let's say 15 minutes, all the way down to, like three. And then the show was running behind. And so then it.

[Wes]

I was gonna say it probably. It was probably a time thing.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. And then it turned out being only like a minute 25. But it was good. It was in and out. I got a lot of positive feedback and responses on socials, and so many people are trying the steak bites now, so that's exciting. Shout out Arby's.

[Wes]

You looked great, by the way.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Thank you.

[Wes]

I don't know how many times I'll comment on your appearance on this podcast, because I've known you since you were a child and we work together. You looked so hot. So thanks, Wes.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Thank you. I. I love a little affirmation from. From you.

[Wes]

Yeah, I got you. You. That reminds me. You know what? I never. This happened, like, two or three weeks ago, but I never. I never said on the podcast, if anyone remembers, three episodes ago, I made a joke about Lexi. Like, and so he was like, oh, she's, like, engaged or whatever. She followed me back on Instagram. Guys.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Jokes on you guys.

[Wes]

Let's go pop the confetti.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Speaking of pretty girls, though, didn't you do stuff with, like, chicks in the office?

[Wes]

Yeah, I just. I'm coming off of the. One of the more wild road trips I've ever had.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, tell me, because you're at the World Series, you have, like, been doing all the things.

[Wes]

Okay, I did. Okay. It was. It was World Series in Toronto for two days, and then I flew to Vegas for Complex Con for one day. Then I flew to Kansas City for Monday Night Football to do a thing with the Chiefs that I think comes out tomorrow. And then I flew from Kansas City to Milwaukee to do a live show with chicks in the office.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So two days in Toronto. And, like, did you really sleep up there? Like, what were you. What were you doing for.

[Wes]

No, not really. Also, fun fact, did you know Canadians do not say the second t in Toronto? So you. You would pronounce it like toron. No. Toronto.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Toronto.

[Wes]

So you don't say this. Yeah. Boom.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Toronto.

[Wes]

I think if any. If any Canadians listen to this, they'll be so stoked that I. I've officially called them out.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, let's just throw it out there. Australia. Melbourne. They say Melbourne.

[Wes]

Melbourne. Melbourne.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Melbourne. Don't say there are.

[Wes]

Melbourne. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Look at this lighting. Sorry. The sun's coming up.

[Wes]

Wait, that early?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Kind of beautiful.

[Wes]

You've got a little golden hour going on.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Wes]

For just the listening audience. If you're on Spotify or Apple, Muse right now, the. The. Are you in Arizona?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. And it's the crack.

[Wes]

The Arizona sun just rose over the mountaintops and is kissing Sophie's face.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Just kissing me all over.

[Wes]

It's beautiful. Okay, so I Did the World series with MasterCard. Did you see the TikTok of me that's going viral?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Wes]

I mean.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. I love, love, love, love.

[Wes]

Do you. Are you. You don't care about the Jonas Brothers, do you?

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's.

[Wes]

I don't feel like that's your. Yeah.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I mean, I like some of their songs, but it's not like, you know.

[Wes]

Okay, so we were there, and they were kind of, like, getting us ready to roll, and we couldn't really hear anything from, like, where we were, but we were, like, up close, so I was like, gonna. I wanted to make sure I looked like I was having fun. Also, they got. They got such bad pushback for the Jonas Brothers concert. People were like, why. Why the. Would you have a Jonas Brothers concert, like, in the middle of a baseball game? I didn't think that it was that bad. The Internet was beside themselves, per usual.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, you can't win the Internet.

[Wes]

Yeah. No, you can't. No, you can't. And so I'm just like, all right, what do I do? I can't really hear what's going on. I don't know this song. So I was like, I'll just air drums. I'm just gonna air drums for, like, the whole song. So I'm air drumming, ear drumming, ear drumming, air drumming. And the song just ends when the fucking FOX broadcast was, like, zoomed in on my face, and I was like. And then it stopped, and it was, like, kind of awkward, but it was fine. I was just trying my best.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You're fine.

[Wes]

Yeah, we were good. But Toronto, great place the series was tied to. Blue Jays are up now. I think they might take it home tonight. We'll see what happens. Then I go to Complex Con. Okay. In Vegas Inter. I. I literally got into Vegas, Go to the hotel, check in, body shower, because I didn't have time to shampoo or condish. And then I get straight to the. I get straight to the venue, and they're like, quavo's here. Like, can you interview? Are you ready? And I was like. I was like, bet. Let's roll. Interview with Quavo. And then Quavo leaves. They're like, ty Dolla sign is here. Just dropped an album. Are you ready?

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's so cool.

[Wes]

I actually tied Allison isn't. I wouldn't consider him a list like Quavo, but I think he. He makes a lot of music, and it's good. And he just dropped an album that I also think is good. So. Rip that I interviewed J.R. smith for like a good 15. Like, a good 10. You basically. It's just like how Comboxcon works is we have, like, these different booths for, like, interviews and stuff.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Wes]

And because it's such chaos, you can't, like, slate. Like, no one's like, really?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Scheduled when to show up. We just have our talent team. Like, if Quavo shows up, they're like, go grab him. Like, bring him to the thing. Like, be ready to go whenever we can find him.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, are you the only one interviewing?

[Wes]

No, there's a couple. A couple other people. This guy named Jordan is kind of like the fucking anchor for, like, complex interviews right now. He's like.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

He.

[Wes]

He's great. He was doing them, but I held that. I held it down for, like, most of Sunday.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I love that.

[Wes]

And then they just bring them through, and you got to be, like, ready to roll.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Were there any funny questions or anything? Or, like, did anything, like, funny or kind of cool happen?

[Wes]

Great question. Well, Ty$walked. Ty$did the whole interview with a lit fudgeing J in his hand.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No.

[Wes]

Rappers are like. Rappers do whatever the fuck they want. Like athletes. I feel like there's always decorum, and they kind of have been. They've had to present themselves.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, they do that and then show up.

[Wes]

Yeah. But rappers literally don't care. So. Yeah. Ty Doll walked up with a jet. Like, just a fucking chunky, wet lit. J just held it in his hand while we did the whole interview. But I was, like, sick. And then Kansas City. Yeah, I don't think. I don't know if I'm allowed to say what we did, but I think. Yeah, actually, no, I definitely can say because we already filmed it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Sure.

[Wes]

So it was called Secret Chief, and I wore an insane disguise and, like, walked around Arrowhead for, like, six hours, like, just eating food.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait time. What do you mean? What? Like, I. I think that'. Fun. I'm excited to see the costume or, like, the disc.

[Wes]

It's so. It's bad. It's bad.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Are people weirded out by you?

[Wes]

I just look like one of those people who, like, paints their face and, like, wears dumb.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, that is so good. I love that.

[Wes]

I know. I will say, though, the. I mean, as, you know, airhead food baller and then. But the winner. Yeah. This probably won't even come out until this. This drops. Anyways. The wi. Ah, yeah. Okay. I'm gonna spoil. I don't care.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, just do it. Do it.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Do.

[Wes]

Was this guy named Chris, and he made. He called it Kingdom Rotel. And it was like, he, like, brisket and, like, a bunch of, like, spices and shit in a rotel dip that he had that he had, like, on his grill top and, like, jerk Cajun seasoning, jalapenos, tomatoes, everything. Then he had jerk wings, and I was like, oh, cute. Like, the jerk, like, this rotel. It looks really good. And then I was, like, about to take a dip, and he's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Pulls a fucking brisket shoulder out and then starts shaking it and juicing it and then cuts, like, a half pound off it. And then, like, salt. Made it on the road how? Yeah, I'll send Kevin the videos. It was Yurgis. Oh, it was just like the most Kansas City plate.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, that's why my mouth is watering. That just sounds absolutely amazing. Oh, God.

[Wes]

It was good. Yeah, it was different. It was special. Did that. Then we go up to, like, the drum circle and they, like, take my, like, disguise off and they're like, oh.

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[Wes]

And, like, no one knows. Hey, hey.

[Sophie Cunningham]

One clap.

[Wes]

Yeah, that was funny, but it was great. And then obviously, Monday football, we beat the commanders. I went and told my dad for a little bit and. And then Milwaukee Chicks in the office show.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Are they on, like a tour or something?

[Wes]

Yeah, they do a tour where they basically, like. They're basically, like, doing their podcast. Like, a lot of people do this now. It's like a podcast and they just do it live, but it's, like, interactive and, like, people show up and whatever.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I think so.

[Wes]

Sorry.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, it's not. I. I really have nothing going on. But I think a live podcast with us interacting with people would be top notch. It'd be fine.

[Wes]

I just would like the basketball, then. Bravo. People like the crossover. I wonder. It would just be so interesting, you know?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, yeah, I'm for it, though.

[Wes]

Oh, sorry. I just. I fully. I didn't. I just didn't stop talking for, like, an hour.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, that's fine. Because I literally have zero updates because I have been moving nonstop. I've barely slept. I've been doing rehab, and that's. Oh, my God, it's Halloween. Happy Halloween.

[Wes]

Oh, Happy Halloween.

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[Wes]

What's. Oh, yeah, I did last night. I have a flight to catch today, so I can't.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Where are you going now?

[Wes]

If I gave you 200 guesses to guess where I'm fucking going, you would never get. You would never guess it in a. In like an. In the not exciting way.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Where are you. Where are you going?

[Wes]

Jacksonville, Florida, baby. Let's go.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Wait, wait. What? What? What turn up?

[Wes]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

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[Sophie Cunningham]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

See, and, like, that's the type of cry talking about that is, like, when everyone's just supporting each other, regardless of, like, why they're there. Because that sounds like a melting pot. Like, I just think that'd be so amazing.

[Wes]

It is. I. Like, I'm flying Back because I have to be here. And so what you do, you have, like, an app that you have all your friends, you plug their bib number in, and you follow them throughout the day. And so, like, we're gonna camp out, Upper east side. And you just wait till your friends are, like, a few blocks. You run outside, you find them, you yell, you give them hugs, you take pictures, and they keep going.

[Sophie Cunningham]

And, like, wait, how many people are doing it that, you know?

[Wes]

I think I have, like. I think I have, like, six right now. Some are, like. Some are crazy runners. Some it's their first time. Like, that's why it's the best day.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's really cool. Oh, speaking of, like, kind of being pros and then maybe just doing it for fun, how was our last kickball game? Because it's the last one, right?

[Wes]

So if we lost in quarters, it was tough. Three, two. One of my boys dropped a routine pop fly. Bases loaded, two outs in the first, and we. And we. And we never dug ourselves out of that hole. But you know what? It just proves how hard going back to back is. You know what I'm saying?

[Sophie Cunningham]

And the Chiefs have done it how many times?

[Wes]

Well, they've done back to back once, but they're like. But even just staying at the top, hard to do, but really hard to do. Championship, though, they've seen championship is seven in a row.

[Sophie Cunningham]

So I'm saying seven championships in a row.

[Wes]

Wait, back to marathon running. Would you ever do, like. I. I don't. I would never do long distance. I don't think I. It's. I don't think I'd like it. I don't think my body would like it, but so many people do it. Could you ever be a cardio person when you're done playing basketball?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Okay, so weird that you've said this, because I have always thought that you have to be mentally ill to do any type of marathon. Yeah, that's just how I feel. But I have an awesome friend out here. Her name is. Or out here, her name is Amy, and she does the Hawaii. There's, like, a Honolulu Marathon every year around December. And I was like. And Hawaii is my happy place. So I was like, heck, yeah. But my leg is not ready for it this year, so I'm actually doing a full marathon next year. And I'm trying to get Lindsay, my sister, to do it, too, but I think I mentioned what you're doing.

[Wes]

Wait, Are you okay? Wait. Respectfully, your coaches and trainers know this.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No. It'll be out of season It'll be in December.

[Wes]

But you had to train for a marathon for like, like six months.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Here's my thing. I'm gonna. This is probably so wrong, but again, I said I'm mentally ill. I said I would do this. So that's already a huge problem.

[Wes]

The full marathon, like 20. What is it? 26. Kev, help me out. 26.

[Sophie Cunningham]

20 something. 20. It's point something. 20 something. Point something, right?

[Wes]

Oh, but so you are doing full. Like that's not a joke.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But this is why I think I'm gonna be able to do it, because I'm gonna be right outta season, so I'm already gonna be in really great shape. And then it's Hawaii. So if I get tired or whatever, I'm just gonna walk and look at the ocean and look at the mountains. Like, I'll be fine. I'm not gonna run the whole thing.

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[Wes]

26.2. Yeah. I am not. I want. I am rooting for you. But I do think that it's like a different type of in shape. Like, it's not. It wouldn't be the same as like basketball in shape.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Well, I did kind of leave out my training program, so I'm not gonna be tr. But after season, then I'll start running long distance. So like, there's a whole.

[Wes]

And how much time do you have? So between season and Hawaii?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like two months.

[Wes]

Okay.

[Sophie Cunningham]

That's not too bad. No, but if you think that I'm ever running, like, I think my max that I will run in that whole 26.2. I'll give myself around like 13 miles. The other one is I'm walking.

[Wes]

Is it something that you. Are you doing it for vibes or you like, want to accomplish and like have a marathon under your belt?

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, I fudgeing hate marathon running. Like, I'll support people all day long, but mentally, I know I don't ever want to do that. I think it's going to be a living hill. I'm only doing it because it's in Hawaii and Hawaii is my happy place.

[Wes]

Dude, that will be fun to track that.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'll probably want to die.

[Wes]

Yeah, I. Yeah, I. For me, it's a concrete for a whole day. I wouldn't. It wouldn't bode well.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You know what's weird though? I. In the off season, I actually love to jog, but like for maybe a mile and a half, two miles, three max. So just add on like 23.2 more miles of three. I think he'll be okay.

[Wes]

Wait, I can't believe you're doing a fucking. I wonder how many. I wonder how many athletes have done marathons before retirement.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I think it's just. I want to push myself to see if I can actually do it.

[Wes]

No. Yeah, that's fire. But then that's what I'm like. I'm not telling you to, like, push your body too far, but, like, I. I'm curious if you can actually do it.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I probably will, but there's a lot of, like. I feel like this marathon is also kind of how you say the New York marathon is, because it's, like, young people, old people, people who come from other countries just to be in Hawaii and, like, do this, and it's around Christmas, and so, like, the vibes are fun. And so, yeah, even if I have to walk, I can walk for days. Walking is fine. So if I just have to walk a little bit, but if I start cramping, I'm done. Like, call the helicopter, throw me in the ocean. I'm good. So I don't know if I'll be able to do it.

[Wes]

You will. Are you not done moving?

[Sophie Cunningham]

No. Oh, my God, no. No. But I'm almost done, like, yesterday and the day before. The last two days have been really big days, and.

[Wes]

Oh, that's nice.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. I'm not someone who, like, I need to work under pressure because otherwise I'll, like, dick around and, like, not do my stuff. And I think I dicked around a little too much, maybe this time, because I have so much shit. But my movers, they're called Good Greek, and they're out of Florida, and they did awesome. My guys were Adrian and Christian, and.

[Wes]

They got that shout out to Adrian and Christian. I wish I had that blowhorn sound effect attached to me.

[Sophie Cunningham]

No, dude, it was. It was. They were impressive, like, just how fast they got stuff done. I was like, wow.

[Wes]

Fuck, yeah. Yeah, guys.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. Good vibes.

[Wes]

Obviously. The art is all off your walls. Those are looking pretty nakey.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, I have. I barely. I have barely anywhere to. To do anything, so I'm trying to get organized.

[Wes]

Are you mourning, like, leaving that apartment?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Honestly, kind of sad. It's, like, leaving a little era and, like, the house I had, but it was so cute, and I made it really homey and cozy. Spent way too much money, like, furnishing it, and then, like, you can't spend.

[Wes]

Too much money making your apartment feel like home. Don't ever feel bad for, like, investing into your. Your leg space.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah, Wes, I would agree with you, but then a week and A half later, I got told I was being traded. And so.

[Wes]

That part's dumb. That part?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes.

[Wes]

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[Sophie Cunningham]

Just don't buy one. So I. But I do think I did buy all of it and I love it. And I think the next play, the, like, the next team I play for, I want a bigger contract so then I can buy a house and be homey and cozy.

[Wes]

Fuck yeah. Okay.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

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[Wes]

That could be. That's crazy. That could be the liberty. It could be New York City. It could also be the links and it could be Minneapolis. Like, you just don't know.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Could be anywhere.

[Wes]

The 30 day extensions for the CBAs. Any. Any thoughts?

[Sophie Cunningham]

So I actually learned a lot because we have. We've been having CBA calls. I know. It's actually very intriguing. Like, I love the business side of things, but when you don't know, you don't know. So I thought that if we didn't have a agreement by the 31st, then it was a lockout. That's not true. So you can. If both sides are continuing to negotiate and trying to come up with something, then you're still. You're not in a lockout. But once one side kind of stops or like just meh. That's when the lockout happens. So that's news to me.

[Wes]

Okay, good note and something to learn.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's been very fascinating. Just like the ins and outs of the negotiation conversations. What they're doing, what they're not doing, what we're doing, what we're not doing. Like, it's been kind of cool just to, like, sit back and listen.

[Wes]

So, guys, did everyone hear that Sophie Cunningham just said it's nice to sit back and listen?

[Sophie Cunningham]

I think I'm maturing.

[Wes]

Put it on a T shirt. Kathy. She's listening. She's listening.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Cat Dog man and Cat Dog.

[Wes]

Did you see what they did to the Mizzou student section?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Oh, gosh. Oh, my gosh. Okay.

[Wes]

People are so mad. And I'll let. You can talk about it, but I'll be on the same side as you. But that's a bummer.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Dude, I am so glad you brought that up because people have been flooding my DMs and everything. Like, you got to do something. So first I want to. And Kev, you need to put up pictures of like, the before and afters, because this is actually crazy. I Love.

[Wes]

It's bad.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It is bad. But I want to shout out our ad first. Laird. He is an amazing, amazing human. Like, you could not ask for a better ad as a. As a father, friend, anything like that. And then someone leading your athletic department. We are so lucky to have him at Mizzou. So I want to shout out that second. I hate it. I hate it. And I know. I know they're doing it because I heard that, like, it's, like, the amount of money that they're making off of it, of course. But the seats weren't even filled, first of all. And, like, the people who were sitting down there, they're like, actually, it's. It's hard to see because you just have a coach or players just standing right in front of you, so you can't even really see. And most importantly, no, like, you want. Our student section is one of, like. Like, college basketball. Student sections in general are fucking amazing. Like, I'm all for college basketball just for that reason. And ours was one of the best. And, like, we were right on top of people. They put the opposing bench right by the student section for a reason, and now we're just pushed back. And it's not the same vibes. Like, it's not going to be the same environment playing. And as a player, I can tell you that that matters. And I do not. Like, I don't like it. Screw the money. Sometimes you have to just, like, find it another way, because that's gotta be fixed.

[Wes]

I mean. Yeah, you said it all. It just is like that. That was. If you watch a Mizzou basketball game on tv, that is where your eyes go right below the basket on the left side of the broadcast, or if you're in the arena, that whole section. And to take that away, to put rich people who will be sitting down probably, like, it is just.

[Sophie Cunningham]

It's not a good vibe. It's not like. And I get it. I get the money part, but I also don't get it because you also have to, like, keep the environment where it's at. Like, at the end of the day, you're trying to create an environment where it makes it really hard for teams to come in and win and pushing back people who are right on top of you.

[Wes]

Nah, they compare. Like, if they're. If they have an athletics meeting or whatever, And a is 30 rich people who will pay X amount of money for these seats versus good student section in, like, loud environment. They don't. Like, they unfortunately will never care about home court advantage or, like, Keeping students, like, it's so obvious, but also, like, money will fucking always win, and it's the worst.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I hate it.

[Wes]

It's the worst.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes, I agree. Yeah. I. I've been hesitant to respond or tweet because I really do love Laird so much, and I love what they're doing, but I. But the competitor in me and, like, just being a fudgeing Mizzou fan through and through, they've got to change that. So now that this. I wonder if there's.

[Wes]

I wonder if you could do something, like, tasteful. Like, it's not, like, calling for his head, but just, like, this is one of the best advantages to Mizzou men's and women's basketball. Like, to take it away is, like, really sad or something. I want to say, I will never forget. This is ingrained into my brain. It would have been, like, 2006 or 2007. Mizzou was playing KU.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I knew you were going to say that.

[Wes]

They fouled. I forget who it was. They fouled a guy named Christian Moody under the basket with, like, 0.3 seconds left. Game was tied. He had two free throws. That whole student. That was the loudest arena I've ever fucking been in. The craziest fucking place ever. And he missed both because they. They always had to shoot on that side in second.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yes. Yep.

[Wes]

And the roof blew off that place. And they are on the floor on your fucking neck. And they. I, I. It looks like they took away. It's got to be, like, six or.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Seven rows, and that's a big deal. Like that. And you're.

[Wes]

They're far away now. They're like, not.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Here's my thing. The fact that, like, because we went through. Especially when I was in college, we went through a time that no one really went to men's basketball games, right? So now that we're back and, like, the fans are interested, especially the students, like, don't take away more seats. Like, try to find ways to put. Okay, put. Put the crazy antlers and crazy people down on the floor then. You know what I mean? Like, don't put the rich people who aren't gonna say down there, I don't like this. I don't like it.

[Wes]

I know. I know.

[Sophie Cunningham]

I'm so glad you brought that up.

[Wes]

A trend in sports, though, is, like, getting, like, the Chiefs have made designs where they're like, we want to put, like, like, sweets in this area or, like, a paid Whatever, Whatever. And I'm like, dude, Arrowhead is about people who drink fucking tall Boy bud lights and wear fucking coveralls and yell and like, the, like, quit putting rich people in people who care seats. You'll fucking ruin home field advantage for every sport. Yeah, don't do it. But like, but no one will listen because they. They make more money.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Like, it's like, it's almost like Nil is ruining the. The athletes a little bit in the way the culture of college basketball. But now just the money has always ruined the culture of really anything because they don't put the fun people there.

[Wes]

Well, now because of Nil, athletic departments need more money more than ever. And it's not like you can't kind of keep shit like where it was. Like, it's just. It will never end. It's kind of like a slippery soap cycle.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But I do think, always. Yeah, I think you do have to keep evolving. Like, I. I think that like, you do need to find if you're. If people are offering and want to pay more, do it. But I also think you can't take away from just, like, the feel of what makes college basketball college basketball.

[Wes]

That was a good one. Sometimes when I feel like shit and I am not, I have no big expectations for the pod is when I really. You and I rip it. And I would like to apologize for talking for a straight 25 minutes earlier.

[Sophie Cunningham]

But, dude, that's what a podcast is is you is us talking. So do not apologize because I really have nothing kind of fun going on in my life, and I feel like you've been all over the place. So this is really cool.

[Wes]

Okay, that makes me feel better.

[Sophie Cunningham]

We love you.

[Wes]

See you guys next week. Sorry this one was late. We were. I was just not home, so I was moving. Yeah, we'll try to be quicker. Illy, illy beasts.

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[Sophie Cunningham]

This is an iHeart podcast.