Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Show Me Something — Sophie Cunningham on WNBA CBA Negotiations, Good Morning America & West’s Viral World Series Moment
Release Date: November 1, 2025
Guests/Hosts: Sophie Cunningham, Wes
Episode Overview
This episode is a lively and candid catch-up between WNBA star Sophie Cunningham and co-host Wes. The pair dive into recent personal adventures, key WNBA CBA updates, viral sports moments, and behind-the-scenes stories. The episode blends humor, inside sports talk, and real-life struggles—like sleep deprivation and moving houses—with thoughtful commentary on current events in the sports world.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Energy Struggle & Life on the Move
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Opening (02:48-04:25):
Both Sophie and Wes joke about their exhaustion, each surviving on barely any sleep because of the hectic schedules—Sophie due to cross-country flights and house-hunting, Wes from a wild media and sporting events stretch."I pulled two all nighters ... just from flying from one coast to another…"
— Sophie Cunningham (04:09)"I’ve slept like eight minutes in the last week and I could not be more excited to be here..."
— Wes (02:58)
2. Sophie's Good Morning America Experience & Arby’s Collab
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GMA Appearance (04:25-10:09):
Sophie glows about her fun, whirlwind trip to New York where she walked the city, appeared on Good Morning America (GMA) for an Arby's segment, and met the show's hosts (notably, Robin and Ginger). The segment focused on how “hot girls eat” and featured Arby’s steak nuggets—a product Sophie helped make viral."The people there are absolutely so, so nice. The hair and makeup were great. I met Robin. I met Ginger. Like, everyone that I met was just..."
— Sophie Cunningham (05:11) -
Virality & Steak Nuggets (05:52-09:06):
Sophie's “Arby’s shirt” sells out after the segment, and there’s talk of viral steak nugget challenges, with hopes of having the “steak nugget guy” on as a podcast guest."RV shirt went absolutely viral and has been like, completely sold out really, since I've worn it..."
— Sophie Cunningham (05:56) -
Upcoming Arby’s Launch (07:05-08:28):
Sophie hints at testing Arby’s secret menu items—including a soon-to-launch deep fried turkey sandwich ("the Gobbler"), which gets the hosts hyped for Thanksgiving."They're about to come out with a deep fried turkey sandwich... the Gobbler. Deep fried turkey, cornbread stuffing, cranberry spread and crispy onions, basically Thanksgiving in sandwich form."
— Wes (08:01)
3. Wes’s Viral World Series Moment & Travel Blitz
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Baseball & Air Drums at the World Series (02:48-14:04):
Wes recounts his viral clip during a Jonas Brothers concert mid-baseball game, describing awkward air drumming on national TV. They debate the Internet’s harsh reaction to the concert interruption."I can't really hear what's going on. I don't know this song. So I was like, I'll just air drums... The song just ends when the fucking FOX broadcast was like zoomed in on my face..."
— Wes (02:48, repeated at 13:33) -
Non-Stop Travel: Toronto, Vegas, Kansas City, Milwaukee (11:22-15:38):
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Toronto for World Series
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Vegas for ComplexCon (impromptu interviews with Quavo, Ty Dolla $ign, and J.R. Smith, with rapper Ty Dolla $ign doing his interview while holding a lit joint).
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Kansas City for a Chiefs event, where Wes dressed in disguise for a hidden-camera segment.
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Milwaukee for a live "Chicks in the Office" podcast event
"I literally got into Vegas, go to the hotel, check in, body shower... then I get straight to the venue, and they're like, Quavo's here. Like, can you interview?"
— Wes (14:04)"Ty Dolla $ign did the whole interview with a lit fudgeing J in his hand."
— Wes (15:49)
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4. The New York City Marathon & Marathon Mindsets
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Why the NYC Marathon Is So Special (23:43-24:42):
Wes speaks about the emotional impact of the marathon—highlighting universal humanity and collective celebration."It's the best day of, like, humanity you could ever find."
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Sophie’s (Reluctant) Marathon Plans (26:02-29:39):
Sophie reveals her surprising plan to attempt the Honolulu Marathon post-WNBA season, despite calling marathoners "mentally ill (in a loving way)," saying she’ll do it for Hawaii's happiness and with no commitment to running the whole way."I’ve always thought you have to be mentally ill to do any type of marathon... I’m actually doing a full marathon next year."
— Sophie Cunningham (26:19)"If I get tired or whatever, I’m just gonna walk and look at the ocean and look at the mountains. Like, I’ll be fine. I’m not gonna run the whole thing."
— Sophie Cunningham (27:30)
5. Personal Updates: Moving, Homes, and Uprooting
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Sophie’s Big Move (19:37-31:45):
Sophie details the challenges, emotions, and logistics of moving—shouting out her movers and reflecting on the bittersweet feeling of leaving a cherished home, especially after being traded soon after settling in."I barely have anywhere to do anything, so I’m trying to get organized… Honestly, kind of sad. It’s like leaving a little era and... I made it really homey and cozy."
— Sophie Cunningham (31:06, 31:17)"If you’re a pro athlete, actually, do not decorate your house until you have a fucking three-year contract in front of you."
— Wes (31:46)
6. WNBA CBA Negotiations: Insights from the Inside
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Explaining the CBA Process (32:24-33:10):
Sophie educates listeners about how lockouts work, describing that as long as both players and league sides continue negotiations, there’s no lockout."If both sides are continuing to negotiate and trying to come up with something, then you're still... not in a lockout. But once one side...stops... that's when a lockout happens."
— Sophie Cunningham (32:32) -
Sophie's Perspective on the Business Side:
"It's been very fascinating. Just like the ins and outs of the negotiation conversations. What they're doing, what they're not doing..."
— Sophie Cunningham (33:10)
7. College Basketball Culture Wars: Mizzou Student Section Drama
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Strong Opinions on Student Sections vs. VIPs (33:44-39:50):
The hosts lament Missouri’s decision to remove iconic student seating near the court in favor of paid VIP seats, pairing personal experience with passionate defense of tradition and college sports culture."Our student section is one of, like... the best. And, like, we were right on top of people... They put the opposing bench right by the student section for a reason, and now we're just pushed back."
— Sophie Cunningham (34:13)"To take that away, to put rich people who will be sitting down probably, like, it is just... It's not a good vibe."
— Wes (35:53)"It's like, almost like NIL is ruining... the culture of college basketball. But now just the money has always ruined the culture of really anything because they don't put the fun people there."
— Sophie Cunningham (39:03)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "I've maybe slept ten [minutes]. Like we are. I pulled two all nighters." — Sophie Cunningham (04:09)
- "So on Good Morning America, it was a very kind of like, quick snippet, but we were talking about how hot girls eat... RV shirt went absolutely viral." — Sophie Cunningham (05:56)
- "Ty Dolla $ign did the whole interview with a lit fudgeing J in his hand." — Wes (15:49)
- "It's the best day of, like, humanity you could ever find." — Wes on NYC Marathon (24:23)
- "I want to push myself to see if I can actually do it." — Sophie Cunningham on marathon plans (29:26)
- "If you're a pro athlete, actually, do not decorate your house until you have a fucking three-year contract in front of you." — Wes (31:46)
- "Our student section is one of... the best... They put the opposing bench right by the student section for a reason, and now we're just pushed back... not the same vibes." — Sophie Cunningham (34:13)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 04:25 – 10:09: Good Morning America experience and Arby’s collaboration
- 13:33 – 14:04: Wes describes viral World Series air-drum moment
- 14:04 – 15:49: Vegas ComplexCon interviews (Quavo, Ty Dolla $ign)
- 24:23 – 25:13: Emotional impact of the NYC Marathon
- 26:02 – 29:30: Sophie explains her decision to attempt a marathon
- 31:06 – 31:46: Sophie’s big move and athlete housing dilemmas
- 32:24 – 33:10: Explaining WNBA CBA and lockouts
- 34:13 – 39:03: Mizzou student section seating controversy & college sports culture
Tone & Style
Conversational, humorous, and refreshingly candid. The banter is casual with plenty of inside jokes and strong opinions, matched by moments of real insight into athlete experiences and sports industry realities.
Overall: This episode serves up a blend of sports culture critique, insider athlete perspective (especially on the WNBA CBA), viral sports media moments, and personal stories, all delivered with warmth, wit, and a down-to-earth touch.
