The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham reacts to Angel Reese on Victoria's Secret runway with Bravo's West Wilson"

Release Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd via iHeartPodcasts & The Volume
Featured Guests: Sophie Cunningham (WNBA Player), West Wilson (Bravo’s Summer House)

Episode Overview

In this lively installment of The Herd's “Show Me Something” segment, Sophie Cunningham and Bravo’s West Wilson dive into the intersection of sports, reality entertainment, and personal journeys. They reflect on the WNBA playoffs, explore athlete character development in the age of the transfer portal, discuss the unique challenges and joys of reality TV, and engage listeners in candid life advice. Throughout, they showcase authentic camaraderie, humor, and a refreshing willingness to embrace both vulnerability and hot takes—from WNBA drama to personal growth and pop culture.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Sports Community & Character Building

• College Sports Loyalty vs. the Transfer Portal

  • Both guests lament how the NCAA transfer portal has upended traditional school loyalty, speculating about its impact on athletes’ sense of belonging and ability to build character.
    • West: "I'm just so happy to have one school that I am proud to have gone to for my whole career." [07:10]
    • Sophie: "Sometimes you just gotta go through the shit in order to be the shit. Is that a bar?" [09:36]
  • They agree that sticking it out, even when it’s tough, leads to meaningful relationships and personal growth.
    • Sophie: "If you're always running from it, where do these kids learn good morals and good characteristics?" [07:47]

• Rewards of Perseverance

  • West shares a personal story of losing his letterman jacket and the warmth he felt when his alma mater replaced it after a milestone speech:
    • "After this speech, our AD was like… I grabbed an extra letter jacket, like, I've got back, and it was really nice, really cute." [06:19-06:48]

2. Behind the Scenes: WNBA Season & Reality TV

• WNBA Playoffs & Cultural Impact

  • Sophie recaps the season: increased viewership, dramatic playoff series, and how her team nearly made it to the finals.
    • "The playoffs overall...an increase of 6% from last year. So it's huge. Like, a lot more people were tuned in." [20:30]
    • "Our games were maybe...viewed more than the finals game, just our series." [21:17]
  • She expresses both pride and hunger for further competition: "I’m just a competitor and I’m ready to win... next year." [22:30]

• Reality TV Candidness & Friendships

  • West describes Summer House’s unique, unfiltered filming process, emphasizing its authenticity.
    • "Ours is... GoPros running in the house for three full straight days...it would be impossible [to fake]." [14:53]
  • The conversation explores how intense shared experiences foster deep bonds among cast members.
    • "You go through such a weird, unique experience with people. It kind of just bonds you." [27:04]
  • Both express gratitude for newfound friendships and mutual support, in and out of the spotlight.

3. Fan Interaction & Listener Advice

• Caller: Moving to a New City Alone

  • Liz seeks advice on moving to a new city at 22 without family support.
    • West: "Moving away from home and being uncomfortable...it is truly the best thing you can do for yourself." [44:31]
    • Sophie: "You learn so much about yourself... Living in Australia, living in France... has just, like, grown the way I think." [45:35]
  • Both urge: “Go for it! You can always go home.” [47:25]

• Caller: Taylor Swift Vinyl Dilemma

  • Steve asks whether to keep pushing to recover cherished vinyls left after a friendship break.
    • West: "If they're yours, they're yours. You can't keep them from you." [49:04]
    • Sophie: "Go get your stuff at the end of the day. Go get it. It's yours. Who cares? Make her feel uncomfortable." [49:22]

4. Pop Culture Moments: Angel Reese & Victoria's Secret

• Touching on Cultural Memory
  • The episode title refers to Angel Reese’s Victoria's Secret runway appearance, though limited direct commentary appears. Sophie and West’s banter underlines the WNBA’s growing presence in pop culture.

5. WNBA Protocol & Rituals

• No Handshake Lines after Playoff Series
  • Listener asks why the W/NBA doesn’t do handshake lines like the NHL.
    • Sophie: "I think Covid kind of stopped all that… I haven't even thought about that. That is a very good [question]." [41:51]
    • West: (After checking online) "It's not a part of the league's protocol." [43:06]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Perseverance:
  • Sophie: "You just gotta go through the shit in order to be the shit." [09:36]
• On Athlete Life Lessons:
  • West: "Employers love hiring college athletes...because we've been through hard shit and made it out alive." [09:45]
• On WNBA Viewership & Growth:
  • Sophie: "Playoffs overall...an increase of 6% from last year. So it's huge." [20:30]
• On the Value of Moving Far from Home:
  • West: "Once I left home, I was like, oh, these things make me who I am...and that's when I really started to appreciate [my roots]." [46:42]
• Listener Advice, Short and Sweet:
  • Sophie: "Go for it! You can always go home." [47:25]
• Pop Culture Cameo:
  • Sophie: "I'm going to be on Good Morning America...I'll be talking about Arby's, the podcast, the WNBA, just life in general." [19:00]
• On Friendships and Reality TV:
  • West: "You go through such a weird, unique experience with people. It kind of just bonds you." [27:04]
• On Food & Balance:
  • Sophie: "I do the 80/20 rule: 80% of the time do good, 20% of the time, just enjoy your life." [30:24]
• On Drama and Online Criticism:
  • West: "Football Twitter is a dark place…so arrogant." [40:33]
  • Sophie: "Twitter in general is a damn dark place." [40:44]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:20 – 04:46: Public speaking nerves, alumni ties, value of giving back
• 06:19 – 07:47: Letterman jacket story, reflections on sports communities
• 09:35 – 10:23: College athletics, lasting friendships, transfer portal
• 12:08 – 13:28: Podcast fan reactions, WNBA drama, Bravo season anticipation
• 16:08 – 16:58: Reality TV’s documentary style, authenticity
• 19:00 – 20:13: Sophie’s Good Morning America and Arby’s partnership news
• 20:25 – 22:37: WNBA finals recap, series viewership, team adversity
• 27:04 – 27:43: Profound friendships from reality TV
• 44:26 – 47:58: Advice to young listener considering a big move
• 48:00 – 50:05: Listener’s Taylor Swift vinyl dilemma, standing up for yourself
• 41:25 – 43:06: The handshake line debate in pro sports

Overall Tone and Style

Candid, humorous, self-aware, and deeply personal—Sophie and West alternate between irreverent jokes and genuine, heartfelt advice. They’re clearly comfortable with each other, unafraid to challenge one another, vulnerable about their insecurities, and passionate about the role of sports (and reality TV) in shaping character. Their perspective offers a blend of athlete wisdom and pop culture savvy, making for a relatable and energetic listen.

For New Listeners

Even without having tuned in, this episode offers an engaging mix of WNBA insights, genuine life lessons, lighthearted reality TV tales, and empowering advice. Through listener questions and organic banter, Sophie and West champion perseverance, friendship, and the courage to pursue new experiences—even when life or the sports world throws a curveball.

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