Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham REACTS to possible WNBA LOCKOUT, player's union & CBA drama.

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Episode: Show Me Something – Sophie Cunningham REACTS to possible WNBA LOCKOUT, player's union & CBA drama
Date: March 5, 2026
Featured Guest: Sophie Cunningham
Co-host: Wes
Main Theme: WNBA Players' Fight for Fair CBA, Revenue Share, and Player Solidarity

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the ongoing WNBA collective bargaining agreement (CBA) impasse, exploring players’ perspectives on revenue sharing, salary negotiations, housing benefits, and possible lockout scenarios. WNBA star Sophie Cunningham shares first-hand insights from the Players Association, laying bare frustrations with league negotiations, media misconceptions, and the unbreakable unity among WNBA athletes. The conversation also touches on broader sports labor issues, the realities of professional athlete life, and plenty of playful asides.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. State of WNBA CBA Negotiations and Possible Lockout

• Lack of Progress:
  The WNBA has failed to make meaningful movement on core player demands, particularly around revenue sharing. "All the pressure [is] on us players to make moves. We've made moves. We're waiting on you guys to respond." (Sophie, 02:14)
• Solidarity & Player Preparation:
  "We are unified as it gets right now. If we don't have a season, that says a lot more about the WNBA league than us. Because we're ready...but we are not going to play for less than what we deserve." (Sophie, 02:14)
• League's Response:
  The league made minimal adjustments—such as only slightly increasing the salary cap (by “like, half a percentage”) and refusing to discuss revenue share, sparking player frustration. (11:39–12:00)
• Lockout Timeline:
  March 10 is a critical date: either negotiations progress, or the season may face delays or cancellation. Expansion draft and standard offseason moves hinge on resolving the CBA. (23:15–24:34)
• Revenue Share vs. Salary Cap:
  WNBA players currently receive only 2–8% of league-generated revenue, compared to the approximate 50-50 splits in the NBA and other major leagues. “Right now in the W, it's like the league gets 97, $98 and I get two.” (Sophie, 12:57–13:30)

2. Comparisons with Other Leagues

• Revenue Share in Other Sports:
  MLB and NBA players see vastly higher revenue splits. MLB is bracing for its own rough CBA ahead.
• NCAA Similarities:
  The lack of fair compensation and revenue sharing in the WNBA is compared to pre-NIL NCAA rules. "That somewhat reminds me of old NCAA like name and likeness, where NCAA had rights to all of your name and likeness." (Wes, 13:30)

3. Housing and Player Benefits Debate

• Compromises and Sacrifices:
  Sophie argues that as salary and revenue share rise, it’s reasonable for players with guaranteed contracts to pay for their own housing—while others (on short-term deals or trades) should still receive league assistance.
  • "If our minimum is close to half a million dollars...go pay for your own stuff." (Sophie, 16:34)
• Logistics:
  How housing is handled now: team apartments or a stipend/allowance. Debate over fairness for players in high-rent cities (e.g., NYC, LA) versus smaller markets. (15:56–17:47)
• Convenience:
  Hotel stays provided for newly traded players or those without guaranteed contracts, but uncertainty looms under the prospective new CBA. "The league isn’t...they’re like, no one gets nothing." (Sophie, 19:02)

4. Unity & Player Involvement

• Player Engagement:
  Record levels of player participation in union calls. "There are so many people on the meeting. So many people are asking questions, which I think is absolutely phenomenal." (Sophie, 21:34)
• Moral Boost:
  "Some badass bitches over here lined up arm to arm...what, we get a couple more months of vacation in the summer on a lake? Say less." (Sophie, 21:41)

5. League Transparency and Trust Issues

• Accounting Gaps:
  Players have not been given access to "the books" despite the league’s claims about high expenses. "Show us. Like, show us. And we just have to trust us. There's no way we're trusting you guys." (Sophie, 22:44)

6. Expansion Draft & Roster Uncertainty

• Pending CBA Significance:
  Expansion draft rules and free agency are all in limbo until a deal is reached. Every player may effectively become an unrestricted free agent if the CBA isn’t settled. "That’s why it’s gonna be legit a shit show..." (Sophie, 23:30)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On League Pressure:
  "They're putting like, all the pressure on us, yet they're not even moving on things that we need them to move on." (Sophie, 19:40)
• On Revenue Sharing:
  “Right now in the W, it's like the league gets 97, $98 and I get two.” (Sophie, 13:20)
• On Solidarity:
  “We are unified as it gets right now. ... We are ready to go, but we are not going to play for less than what we deserve.” (Sophie, 02:14)
• On Housing Debate:
  “You don't want to chase pennies when there's $10 bills out there.” (Sophie, 14:49)
• On Player Engagement:
  “I am so proud of us players. For, first of all, being engaged, being dialed in...People are learning, being educated. But I just love so much that we're all like, it's dope. Some badass bitches.” (Sophie, 21:34)
• On League Transparency:
  "Show us. Like, show us. And like, we just have to trust us. There's no way we're trusting you guys." (Sophie, 22:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:14] WNBA players’ unity, readiness, and stance on lockout
• [10:00–11:39] Details of CBA negotiation process, player representation
• [12:00–13:30] Revenue share breakdown and why it matters
• [15:29–17:05] Housing benefit debates (who deserves what)
• [19:40–20:33] League pressure tactics, lack of movement, and frustration
• [21:34–22:05] Player engagement, morale, and solidarity
• [22:44–23:11] League transparency and trust issues
• [23:15–24:34] Expansion draft & impact of delayed/failed CBA negotiations

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Additional Moments & Tone

• The episode features candid, lively banter between Sophie and Wes, offering insights both serious and humorous.
• There are lighter digressions covering New York living, bar and food recommendations, Midwest casseroles, personal grooming habits, and goofy anecdotes from reality TV.
• The tone is confident, sometimes playful, with frequent asides, pop culture nods, and a refusal to mince words—especially as Sophie asserts her opinion and calls out misconceptions misguiding the public.

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Conclusion

This engaging episode provides a rare inside look at WNBA players' frustrations and determination amid a CBA crisis. Sophie Cunningham, speaking with conviction, illustrates the grit, unity, and business savvy of today's female athletes, making it clear: “We are all training. We are all playing. We are ready to go, but we are not going to play for less than what we deserve.” If the league refuses to budge on the core issue of fair revenue sharing, the consequences for the 2026 WNBA season rest squarely with WNBA leadership—not with the women ready to take the court.

Transcript

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[Sophie]

all the pressure on us players to make moves. We've made moves. We're waiting on you guys to respond. And at the end of the day, like I think they're waiting for us players to crack. I'm telling you, we are unified as it gets right now. And like if we don't have a season, that says a lot more about the WNBA league than us. Because we're ready. Like, we are all training. We are all playing. We are ready to go, but we are not going to play for less than what we deserve. Gang, gang, gang, gang, gang, gang, gang.

[Wes]

Before we start this, leave in the comments. Is it, Is it gyro or gyro? That is the big question. We are having.

[Sophie]

What did we say?

[Wes]

Episode 35 of the Show Me Something podcast.

[Sophie]

It's the KD podcast.

[Wes]

The KD episode. You know KD?

[Sophie]

Yeah. Good guy.

[Wes]

Good guy.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I think he saw. I think he's actually really smart.

[Wes]

I, I get that vibe as well. Yeah, he's burner Twitters, though. That's the only. That's the only novel.

[Sophie]

He's low key, kind of funny.

[Wes]

Yeah, I think he is funny for, like, responding to trolls. He just, like, has fun on the Internet.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Lighthearted. Yeah, I think. I guess we never know.

[Wes]

I feel like I've seen you more in the last week than I have.

[Sophie]

Are you so happy about it? Are you exhausted?

[Wes]

No, no, I'm good. We've just been outside.

[Sophie]

I know.

[Wes]

On our feet.

[Sophie]

So actually, just quick thing. We're actually in New York in person because we did stuff with Marriott yesterday for a little something special.

[Wes]

Shout out. Marriott. Let's go.

[Sophie]

And it is Marriott, not Marriott.

[Wes]

Correct.

[Sophie]

Let's get it right, everybody.

[Wes]

We're working on a lot of pronunciation today. Yeah, that's good for us.

[Sophie]

It is.

[Wes]

Good thoughts on New York on a day in Midtown. You can be honest.

[Sophie]

Okay, well, I think I'm more. I think I like Soho better. I think it's a little bit, like, more trendy. I like the shopping. The vibes are a little more like New York.

[Wes]

You don't have to defend Midtown.

[Sophie]

I don't even. But I don't even know what Midtown is. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I know soho, Chelsea, East, Upper west side, Brooklyn. Like, I'm, I'm getting familiar with my New York map.

[Wes]

Oh, yeah.

[Sophie]

But I think I always find myself leaning more towards. Oh, and Tribeca. Right.

[Wes]

Yeah, that's all more downtown, but I think I'm leaning.

[Sophie]

I think I'm more of a Soho girl.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

I don't know what that means, but I am.

[Wes]

Soho is shopping for the most part, but there's a few. There's, like, a hidden gem bar here and there.

[Sophie]

Like, what are, like, the top three bars that you would go to? Like, if, if no one has been to New York, where would you go?

[Wes]

Well, I, I, My watering hole is 82 stand.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

Actually, I don't know. I think I can say this gets a shout out on Summer House. That actually. Yeah, it'll drop. It gets a shout out in this episode that comes out.

[Sophie]

Really?

[Wes]

Yeah. Shout out. You guys go there. Shout out Reagan. KJ went on a date there.

[Sophie]

Ooh.

[Wes]

But I like to think I like, laid the bricks to let them let cameras inside.

[Sophie]

I like that.

[Wes]

If I'm gonna do. If I'm going to eat, Lion's Bar in East Village. It's like a good Guinness. Have you been to Lions Bar? Have not.

[Sophie]

Oh, Kev has his own camera today.

[Wes]

That's sick.

[Sophie]

I like that.

[Wes]

That's like a good burger. Baked potato, mozzarella sticks. Guess Caesar salad.

[Sophie]

Yep.

[Wes]

And third, fancy wise, this is more restaurants, but I've been going to Monkey Bar.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I've been to Monkey Bar.

[Wes]

It's great.

[Sophie]

I do like Monkey Bar.

[Wes]

It's fantastic.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

And it's dark.

[Sophie]

Mm.

[Wes]

But I. Those are like my three. Like, there to drink, there to eat and drink, there to have dinner and like, you have to wear pants and still probably have a drink.

[Sophie]

But wait, that is fun because I, I sometimes it's very overwhelming coming to the city. Like, it's so fun. But you also don't always know, like, where to go. You know what I mean? Like, there's just so much stuff.

[Wes]

Have you taken a train yet?

[Sophie]

I did it for the first time last time I was in New York and I thought I was going to get murdered.

[Wes]

It's the train is. Everyone takes it, though.

[Sophie]

That's what everyone says. But I'm on the TikTok of like, I see huge ass snakes on the stage. Dude.

[Wes]

I get on like the.

[Sophie]

No, I get like on like the like, crackhead. It's a subway, right? Yeah, I get on like, the crackhead subway. I get on like, there's massive snakes and weird animals on the subway. And like, I know, knowing me, I will be the one that gets fucking strangled by a snake on the subway way.

[Wes]

Oh, but you're saying like, snakes. Like, someone's got the snake around there.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Yeah. Shout out my boy.

[Sophie]

No shouting out anyone with freaking snakes. They're disgusting.

[Wes]

He runs Subway Creatures, which is an Instagram that, like, is. It shows you all of the craziest people on the train and like, the craziest things that happen and it's. Yeah, it's like snakes and pets and birds and.

[Sophie]

I'm not kidding. I would, I would probably. I would have a anxiety attack if someone came on the Subway with like a big ass snake.

[Wes]

But you're not afraid of animals though.

[Sophie]

I love animals, but snakes are like, kill them all. Huh. Like I lived in Australia, big ass snakes there. But was in the city. So nothing. I don't know why I said I live in Australia. I was really talking about Hawaii. There's no snakes in Hawaii.

[Wes]

Different place.

[Sophie]

There's no snakes in Hawaii. Zero.

[Wes]

Is that a fact?

[Sophie]

Yes. Huh. Because like, you think about it, island in like the majority of the time you have to bring stuff there.

[Wes]

Well, that's why there's so many in Australia. Also an island, but they have them all.

[Sophie]

I think like social media is always way worse than what it is. And I'm sure, like there are parts of Australia of like where there are these animals. But when Lindsay and I lived there for seven, six, seven months, we didn't see anything.

[Wes]

Well, yeah, because you're what, in Sydney probably.

[Sophie]

No, we were in Melbourne, but we traveled all over. Yeah. Melbourne. Don't say they ares down there. Correct. And so that. But I will say we did go to Whit Sundays, which is like a beautiful. It's like when you think of something so dreamy. It's like a Fiji. It is like. But we went to a. I guess a couple's getaway and there's like me and my sister, we did this trail and I'm not kidding, guys. I looked up when we went on this trail and there was a spider this effing big, like above us. Massive.

[Wes]

Here's a good question. Did the Cunninghams. Are you a family that kills spiders or do you let spiders live?

[Sophie]

Kill those.

[Wes]

Nope, you gotta let them live. They eat all the bugs and the bad and the other bad insects.

[Sophie]

Pause. If they're in the house, kill them outside. Go do your thing.

[Wes]

Don't. Yeah, you don't kill spiders.

[Sophie]

But like daddy long legs. Like, I love the little daddy long legs. And they're the most poisonous spider.

[Wes]

Only on the inside, though they can't penetrate you with their own venom because

[Sophie]

they have two little amounts. Right. So like I'm. I've always gotten along with daddy long legs. But like the big quote card.

[Wes]

I've always gotten along with daddy long legs. Yeah, I have.

[Sophie]

Like, we've always been cool, but like all the other ones, like, if they're in the house, like wolf spiders. We had wolf spiders at our farmhouse growing up. You know what those are? Yeah, yeah. Big old gross. Scary. That was not it. Kill those.

[Wes]

My dad found a snake in his barn.

[Sophie]

Nope.

[Wes]

Last year. And it was like, huge.

[Sophie]

You know, we have rattlesnakes in Missouri. Yeah, I didn't know that.

[Wes]

Pivoting CBAs.

[Sophie]

Dude, we've got a lot to get into.

[Wes]

So. Progress. Oh, no, not really.

[Sophie]

Lack thereof.

[Caller Host]

Really.

[Wes]

But updates.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

Nonetheless.

[Sophie]

Yeah. So I do feel like since we've been on here, it's like, oh, what's the cba? You know, update? And we haven't really had a lot to update, but I do want to get into some details, because we've been having CBA calls, which is, like, our player representation in the league. Yep.

[Wes]

And you're directly a part of these, or you get. You get, like, spark notes?

[Sophie]

No, you are directly a part of these. So you have, like, so many different executive boards and, like, our exec meets. There's, like, player reps. There's CBA reps. Like, there's so many different. But on these calls, when they see all of us show up, it. It shows that we're invested. And this is the most invested CBA that the league, I think, has ever been a part of, which is amazing.

[Wes]

I would believe that.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Super cool. Oh, I'm, like, actually prepared.

[Wes]

Wait. Whoa.

[Sophie]

Well, this is kind of what my homework looked like in college. I don't know if you guys.

[Wes]

Is that your handwriting?

[Sophie]

Yeah. And then this is a bill from where?

[Wes]

Bell Yard.

[Sophie]

Oh, nascar. When I had to pay for my own room because Kevin was in my room. Hold.

[Wes]

That's actually a funny story. Already asleep. Kevin just in a robe. Sophie.

[Sophie]

No. Well, Loki. I knocked on the door, and he's like, hello? And I was like, kevin, I was like, get out of my room.

[Wes]

All the room in this room.

[Sophie]

It was a huge hotel.

[Wes]

There's just Barry White playing softly on. On a JBL speaker.

[Caller Host]

These candles are from that room.

[Sophie]

Yeah. All right, I've had enough of this anyway. I don't actually want to read this, but I do. There's so much to get into. And I think a lot of people who are on the outside, they're like, just sign it like your. Your salary increases four times, five times higher. But that's not it at all. And so on the last cba, the league actually came back to us last night at, like, 10pm and they came back and zero. Nothing happened with the revenue share. And that is the whole thing, what we're fighting for. And they. They go and they change our salary cap, but only, like, half a percentage. Like, they give us, like, 50 to 100,000 more dollars, which is like, that's for individual players.

[Wes]

That's for teams.

[Sophie]

Teams.

[Wes]

Right.

[Sophie]

So like salary cap. So it's like, oh, well, you're getting more money there. It's like, no, we want.

[Wes]

Doesn't necessarily mean it will even affect you directly.

[Sophie]

They keep coming back and changing literally like half percentages.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Of things. We're not even asking like we like

[Wes]

you think it's like a smokescreen to be like, hey, we're giving you this. Meanwhile, we're like not actually changing stuff that matters.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I think like when you go back and when they. We change a little bit. Right. And like we. We're trying to meet in the. I mean it's not in the middle. It's like we're trying to meet somewhere. But for them, they'll. They won't even talk about revenue share. But that is our whole fight is revenue share.

[Wes]

Any clue what other leagues stances are on Rev share?

[Sophie]

I mean if you go to the NBA, if you go to. I mean, I think MLB is going to have their self. They have a new CBA negotiation next year and that's going to be kind of a show like probably going to be a big lock out there because baseball money is just different.

[Wes]

Yeah. But baseball is also more popular I think right now. No offense to the NBA because the NBA fell off a little. I think baseball's kind of popping.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

A cool guy sport at the moment. So I. Yeah, but that'll be interesting.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I will say you get to do certain things and there's a lot of people from different sports who are on the league side, on the player side. And they always ask us about RCBA and like the revenue share because they know that is a huge piece.

[Wes]

Right.

[Sophie]

Pretty much every other league it's like 50, 50. If you break it down, it's more like, you know, 42 and whatever. But let me explain that. So it's like if you're the league and I'm the player and you buy my jersey and I'm a male, say I'm on the. In the NBA, if you're paying $100, the league gets $50. I get $50 right now in the W, it's like the league gets 97, $98 and I get two. And that's on all. Like that's tickets, that's drinks, that's anything that is money.

[Wes]

That somewhat reminds me of old NCAA like name and likeness, where NCAA had rights to all of your name and likeness. And so anything that any money made off of your name or your face or the idea of you, the school And NCAA got 100 of it.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

And then now nil's like kind of.

[Sophie]

But it is.

[Wes]

They, they like couldn't keep doing that.

[Sophie]

No.

[Wes]

Because people like are owed like people like people.

[Sophie]

Yes.

[Wes]

And athletes.

[Sophie]

Yes.

[Wes]

So like you can't do that forever. At 90 is 97. Is that like.

[Sophie]

I mean it's pretty damn close. Like I think last year we were getting like 7, 8%.

[Wes]

So when I bought your fucking jersey, that all went to Kathy.

[Sophie]

You really don't see any of it. And that's what I'm saying. And another important piece of that is, is like they want to extend our season until November 30th. So they, they. And that gives them. Us way more like you. That's more ticket sales, that's more games, that's more people spending money.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

And so in our negotiation now, if we signed it, we will never see more than, not even close to 16 of revenue share. And that's just not going to work. If you want more of our time, then that says even more that you should be giving us.

[Wes]

Right.

[Sophie]

More revenue share.

[Wes]

Right.

[Sophie]

Like that just makes sense.

[Wes]

It's also wear and tear on your body. Like sports are interesting too because you're like subjecting yourself to.

[Sophie]

Well, and they want more games so much. They want, they want 10 plus more games outside of playoffs. And like you, that is. Then you got to pour into your product even more. But I will say I do want to get into this because I think a lot of people, when you are, when you are negotiating things, right. I think you have to sacrifice some things too. And I think that you don't want to chase pennies when there's $10 bills out there. And so I think something that personally our side could do a better job of is housing. I think that if us players are getting paid four or five times more and our revenue share gets to where we want it to get, then you should have to pay for housing.

[Wes]

Okay.

[Sophie]

Unless you're not on a guarantee contract because that would, that's. I think the league should 100% have to pay for that.

[Wes]

Okay.

[Sophie]

Because that's like if you got a 10 day, seven day contract to New York. Yeah.

[Wes]

Fully, fully, fully, fully.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Like you're not going to pay for that. Just makes sense. But they, they haven't moved on housing once. They're like nothing.

[Wes]

So how does that. Are you. Is it just a stipend into your contract that is like that like on top of your salary it includes like. Yeah, it's just a number that you can use on rent.

[Sophie]

So what. What it is now is you can either do team housing which they fully pay for and it's like they have an apartment or a group of housing.

[Wes]

Oh.

[Sophie]

Or if you have your own house, I think you get like what like $3700, 44,000. I don't know what the exact number is. 2704 K months. I don't know. I don't.

[Wes]

For girls who play for like the Liberty and that's not even half of their rank.

[Sophie]

But can. Okay, let's get into that because I think that is an. That is players have brought that up of like okay, well if you live in la, if you live in New York. But hear me out someone still you're getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Wes]

Right.

[Sophie]

Revenue shares up. That's even more in your bank account. You live in a market that has a lot of off court opportunity that therefore gives you even more money.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

And so you have to take that into account when you are going to these teams. Yes, it might be a little bit more pricey but you have more opportunity.

[Wes]

Okay. Yes. For like a Sabrina and ESQ But I would say no for like a bench player. No offense.

[Sophie]

No, no, I feel that but I think that's why a lot of people have like arguments of like they should always pay for team housing. But Wes, like if our minimum is close to half a million dollars.

[Wes]

No. Yeah. I'm not anti the the housing but I do think the market like for specific players like only certain people can profit off that where others like way more actually hot take. Yeah, I think. Okay, like again we'll just keep using Liberty here. Sabrina great to be in New York. Like she's going to have a zillion opportunities.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

I, I would almost rather be a bench player in a smaller market where like your athletes are you love and like I would almost imagine that that community probably embraces the whole roster. Like I don't know any just Midwest southern town more than really any non big city.

[Sophie]

Yeah, like yeah, no, I, I agree with you and I think this is like great conversation because this is like the discussions we're having and like here's my. My thing is though you have to sacrifice something and if you're getting paid half a mil you're saying this is

[Wes]

where players we need to like like like let go of the housing to some people.

[Sophie]

Some might not agree with me but I think that is something that you would have to give up and like cars like they pay for like they give us cars right now. Like we have to. We have to give up and sacrifice something. But I. But I will not sacrifice it for not guaranteed contracts.

[Wes]

Right.

[Sophie]

Because that's just not fair. Like, that just doesn't make any sense. But the league doesn't see that at all, which. That just blows my mind. And so I just think that's my viewpoint on. On housing, which is maybe not everyone agrees with that, but I do think, like, there are people who. Their income is a way, way, way less than half a million and they're affording it.

[Wes]

It's not like an offensive suggestion. No, that's not bad. My only thing would be like the convenience factor where like, okay, so say you just get traded or like signed to a new team and you have to leave tomorrow.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Like, is it your job to figure out housing then?

[Sophie]

So if you get traded in all that, they. They put you up in a hotel.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

For X amount of days. You know what I mean? And so that's fine. But I think they only do it until then. And I think in this new CBA negotiations, I don't know if they're going to do that. And so that's kind of. Our fight is like, there's. There's a selected amount of players that need team housing or there has to be money set aside from the league to help those players who are not under guaranteed or like, who get traded and all that, who are trying to figure it out. And then the people who are guaranteed, go pay for your own stuff. But the league isn't. They're like, no one gets nothing. Yeah.

[Wes]

Any positives in movement? We have nothing positive to report.

[Sophie]

I think it's just funny because I feel like a lot of people on social media, I don't know if you've seen this is like Someone. It's like March 10th, and everyone is like, oh, we have to make a decision. March 10 and Adam Silver got on and was like, they're. They're. We have to have a. You know, there's a timeline with all this. They didn't respond to our proposals for six weeks. They're putting like, all the pressure on us, yet they're not even moving on things that we need them to move on. Like, they are changing every little thing possible except for what we're like, our top freaking things.

[Wes]

Is there any way to bring in someone from the NBA?

[Sophie]

Well, I mean, like, what with who

[Wes]

for, like, I don't know, just who, like, has seen the model and like, how it works and how to come in. Take a look at, like, what the NBA or WNBA's structure looks like now. And, like, just try to be. We already have him objective about, like, moving it forward.

[Sophie]

We have him, and he. He has not done anything. It's like kind of Adam Silver's eyes and ears and, like, it's. I think they're trying to push, but I'm telling you, they are trying to throw money at anything and everything and change half percentages, saying they moved and saying that they're listening to us. Yet our biggest thing that they haven't even touched on is revenue share whatsoever. It's like revenue share is like, the main thing that we need you to touch on and you're not doing it. And so that's. That's our biggest problem right now, I'd say. And again, like, the league putting all the pressure on us players to make moves. We've made moves. We're waiting on you guys to respond. And at the end of the day, like, I think they're waiting for us players to crack. I'm telling you, we are unified as it gets right now. And, like, if we don't have a season, that says a lot more about the WNBA league than us. Because we're ready. Like, we are all training, we are all playing, we are ready to go, but we are not going to play for less than what we deserve.

[Wes]

That's gonna feel good, knowing that, like, we're so unified. Yeah, that. Dude, you guys are all together.

[Sophie]

And that's why, like, I'm not. People are like, oh, are you? I'm like, I'm not fretting whatsoever because I am so proud of us players. For, first of all, being engaged, being dialed in. There are so many people on the meeting. So many people are asking questions, which I think is absolutely phenomenal. Like, people are learning, being educated. But I just love so much that we're all like, it's dope. Some badass bitches over here lined up arm to arm and being like, yeah, go. Go for it. Like, what, we get a couple more months of vacation in the summer on a lake? Say less.

[Wes]

So you think there'll be a season or. No.

[Sophie]

I mean, it's up to the league. It's truly up to the league.

[Wes]

It sounds, from what you've told me, they won't budge for shit, which I. I think. But neither will you.

[Sophie]

And that's what I'm saying. So, like, as of right now, maybe it's going to get delayed. At the end of the day, we just want to get treated like professional athletes. And I think we've Made a lot of great. I mean, just like, our travel is better. The where we stay is better. Like, we have made a lot of

[Wes]

our, like, second podcast. You told me that chartered flights are only like a year too old, and

[Sophie]

I know, which is insane, right?

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

But like. And so I'm so thankful that we're making huge strides in that. But at the end of the day, it's like, you also gotta pay your product.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Like, we are. We haven't seen the books. They're talking about expenses and how expenses are. So it's like, show us. Like, show us. And like, we just have to trust us. There's no way we're trusting you guys. Like, there's no way. Just show us if you're. I don't know. There's just so many little things that are, like, common sense to me that just never happens. Got it. And that's coming for me. Like, yeah, simple. Keep it simple. Like, if that's true, then show me.

[Wes]

Show me. Oh, nice.

[Caller Host]

The question here, you said the date of March 10th before. So, you know, say the same. The CBA goes well, right? Negotiations get back to happening. So how does that specific date relate to the expansion draft and the kind of decisions and the roster moves that need to be made, you know, before then?

[Sophie]

Great question, because I think a lot of people have actually been asking about the expansion draft, but not. It all is very determined on the cba. And so if you went normally, you can, like, protect six players, you can do all that thing. But I think that that was last cba. And so I guess where it kind of stands now is one, need a cba. Two, I think teams can protect up to five players. But all that looks different because are you going to have core players? Are you going to have people who are protect. Like, it's so dependent on CBA that that's why it's going to be legit a shit show. Because you have an expansion draft, you have the draft out of college right after March Madness, and then everyone's a free agent. So it's not like people are restricted. No. Like, our whole league is free. So it's. It's going to be a lot. And that's why March 10th. Unless the league has a miracle. I don't see. I don't see it. Think about your favorite sports memories. Chances are it's not just the game you remember.

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[Wes]

Isn't it funny that when you were a kid and you probably wanted to play in the wnba, you thought, I would just play basketball and now you're like a lawyer and a Mediator, negotiator.

[Sophie]

Okay, you know what? I will activist. I don't know if I'm any of that. Literally just me just trying to figure or learn.

[Wes]

Yeah. But you have to, like, I mean, this is not that you think athletes, like, are going to have to spend all their brain power on.

[Sophie]

No, because people go to school to, like, to do this stuff. And, like, I think it just shows how. How much there are. To not just like, athletes, but to everyone. Right. Like, if you had to do that, you find a way to do it if you really want to. And so I have actually found it very fascinating. And I've. I've really been intrigued with the business side of our sport, of business in general, because, like, you're right. I've only. It's always been basketball, basketball, basketball. But now that I'm becoming kind of like a businesswoman, it is so fascinating. Yeah. And I think people make it complicated and harder than it needs to be. And I'm like.

[Wes]

It's almost like one of, like, too many cooks in the kitchen, probably at some point.

[Sophie]

Way too many. Yeah, way too many.

[Wes]

But, yeah, you want to be unified and have as many. Have as much representation as you can as players, because you're the ones sacrificing almost everything. But I do think once anything is being negotiated, if there are so many people, it almost becomes impossible to, like,

[Sophie]

well, you're never going to please everybody.

[Wes]

But that's why.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I forgot to mention this, and I think this is kind of funny because you said, like, you can't please everyone. The league said actually, like, still in there, that they want to start March 1st training camp.

[Wes]

Why?

[Sophie]

First of all, tell me how that makes any sense. March Madness college season.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Hasn't even ended. Right now is March 2nd. But you know what's funny is, like.

[Wes]

Yeah, it is.

[Sophie]

But the funny thing about that is, is, like, the league is saying that, but the coaches of the teams don't even want that.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

So tell me how that makes sense.

[Wes]

What. What's your normal date?

[Sophie]

Late April. I think this. This year might be the earliest, starting, like, April 19th.

[Wes]

Would this be, like, involuntary?

[Sophie]

No, like, you'd have to be there. It's like training camp.

[Wes]

How can they. But how does moving it up two months.

[Sophie]

Exactly. It makes no sense.

[Wes]

Then do you have a break and then your first game starts at the same time.

[Sophie]

They want everyone to be at training camp March 1st. But you were. What about all the college kids who are going to get drafted?

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Like, how. How's that make that's the type of stuff that they're trying to argue when

[Wes]

that doesn't even make sense if you're a WNBA fan. Good luck. Yeah. Enjoy the NBA. Well, it's on. Let's have Captain Morgan's captain's calls, huh?

[Caller Host]

Shout out to Captain Morgan.

[Wes]

Shout out.

[Caller Host]

Callers are calling in. They need advice on a variety of subjects. And. And I'm gonna just let it fly right now.

[Sophie]

Hey, Sophie. Hey, West. I know this guy swiped left on me, but now we've met in person

[Wes]

and he's a vibe.

[Sophie]

Should I forget and put that swipe behind me? I think it's fine.

[Wes]

Yeah, that's like when dating apps and technology are like ruining stuff. If you like him in person, don't overthink a stupid fucking app.

[Sophie]

Agreed.

[Wes]

Yeah, don't.

[Sophie]

Because speaking for the girls, guys are like kind of uglier in pictures. Like they don't do them justice. I feel like. And so when you meet him in person, it's like, oh wait, like you, you could be cuter.

[Wes]

Maybe a little knock to your ego. But if you like him in person, don't overthink that. Ask him jokingly bring it up and be like, how can I fix this? Maybe you had a dumb prompt question.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Or something. Or you posted a picture with all your girlfriends and like he looked at the wrong one. You never know.

[Caller Host]

I like. That's a good confidence booster. I like that one. Let's go with that one. All right. Keep at it, girl. Keep.

[Wes]

Keep shooting your shot.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

You're so good.

[Sophie]

All right.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Caller Host]

All right, next one here. It's a two part question for the fans.

[Josh]

Hey, Sophie. Hey, Wes. This is Josh from Los Angeles. First of all, Wes, congrats on your cats. National champions.

[Wes]

Oh, yeah, I couldn't hear him right.

[Josh]

Well, actually I have two questions. Let's start with the easy one. Sophie, can you dunk? No. Second, mostly for Sophie, but I want Wes's less input on this one. I'm about about 6 foot, but I find girls Sophie's height and taller very attractive. I also understand girls don't want to date guys. So should I just accept that my queen is going to be shorter than me or is there something I can do to get taller? Girls attention would be fascinating to hear your guys take on this. Anyways, love the show. Hope you guys are doing great at a nice new year holiday period. And that Kev had a great time with his family.

[Wes]

We love. I like this guy. Josh. Follow your kinks, dog. Follow your kinks. Don't let anyone kink shame you. That's, like, a normal one, too. There's so many people in the world. You're gonna meet a tall queen out one day, and she's gonna sweep you off your feet and then carry you home, too. You're so good. I'm rooting for you.

[Sophie]

I don't think I'm the right tall person to ask because I could never date someone shorter than me because I already feel big. So, like, I want someone that's gonna make me feel smaller.

[Wes]

I get that.

[Sophie]

But. But. I know, but there are so many. There are so many guys who have taller girls. I think people have really good energy. And, like, I love, like, I love so many people, but, like, if you.

[Wes]

Except for short guys, like.

[Sophie]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I just can't. I just can't. I. I would just feel like the man in my relationship.

[Wes]

Also, let me say, Josh, six foot isn't short.

[Sophie]

No, that's not.

[Wes]

That's fudgeing. Chill.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Yeah, I like that. You know what?

[Sophie]

You like facts.

[Wes]

Go hang out at, like, Wreck. Go hang out at the Wreck and, like. And host someone up. And then I think you need to

[Sophie]

try actually go to sand volleyball. Beach volleyball.

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[Sophie]

Yeah. Do beach volleyball because there's a lot of tall girls there or volleyball in general. And, like, I don't know, like, they. That could be a vibe.

[Wes]

Go find you a setter, Josh. All right, it's time for a new segment powered by Captain Morgan.

[Sophie]

We're calling it Captain's Calls, where you send your should I or shouldn't I dilemmas, your hot takes, your unpopular opinions,

[Wes]

the messy ones, the bold ones. That I might regret this later ones.

[Sophie]

If you need some advice or how to get it right, we're giving you the captain's call.

[Wes]

So if you've got a life decision, a risky text, a group chat, controversy, or. Or a take you're scared to post,

[Sophie]

send it in, baby. Let the captains decide.

[Caller Host]

In the meantime, W fan, you can

[Sophie]

work on your breakfast casseroles. Dude. Thousand percent. You can get thicky like a snicky, like our man west over here. Dude, your ass is fat.

[Wes]

Someone tweeted the casserole, and my ass being in the same icebreaker are beautiful. I love that some guy tweeted at me the other day and said I need a thicky, like, at Conrad Wilson.

[Sophie]

Dude, you have you. I feel like you've always kind of had a butt.

[Wes]

I mean, I have, like, a football body. I like to think. Or just, like, you know.

[Sophie]

Yeah. But I feel like you. Yeah. You got a little. Little junk in the.

[Wes]

I try to make sure that I keep my, like, playing build.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

You know, because that's always a compliment when someone.

[Sophie]

Really.

[Wes]

You look like you played football. Yeah. You ever see a guy. You ever see a dude with no ass? Like, he's like, shirts tucked in. Like at a wedding, shirts tucked in. And it just. You're like, is there an ass there? It's so weird and, like, ugly.

[Sophie]

What about girls whose shirts are tucked in?

[Wes]

No, but. But I. I think genetically you still.

[Sophie]

Are you eating your words?

[Wes]

No. Our bodies are built.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

There will always be some ass.

[Sophie]

I think I'm.

[Wes]

But there's guys who like lich. I mean, saying, like, they don't have butts.

[Sophie]

Yeah. No, it's gross.

[Wes]

It's one of the weirdest things ever. And it's. There's so many dudes with no butt.

[Sophie]

It almost like goes in.

[Wes]

It just. I'm like, you. No one could, like, reproduce with you. You're. It's so unathletic looking and like.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

If someone robbed. If someone robbed your house, the guys who don't have butts will all. They're gonna, like, fall flat now. It's not meant to be a pun.

[Sophie]

You know what?

[Wes]

I guess I don't know, dude.

[Sophie]

Can I tell you, though? I. I have had so many trainers just like, because people move all the time in the pros and they're always like, what's your goal? And I said, I want a skinny waist. I want a fat ass.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

I have tried. I can't. I think I run too much.

[Wes]

Oh, cardio. Probably hurts.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

No, actually, that's not. Well, basketball cardio.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Interval training, like, sprint training is good for your legs.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

StairMaster.

[Sophie]

My legs are fine, but I just.

[Wes]

It's also genetics, too.

[Sophie]

Paula and Jim. Paula, damn it gave me nothing.

[Wes]

But you, I think if you weren't hooping and you did, like, some squats. Yeah. What kind of legs do you guys do?

[Sophie]

I mean, squats, Single leg squats, RDls. We do stuff. I'm telling you. Like, I can't.

[Wes]

But it's never heavy, though. Or is it?

[Sophie]

Yeah, it's heavy. Like in the off season. Yeah. Okay. It doesn't work.

[Wes]

Thoughts on the Internet? One of the TikToks I saw said not to objectify, man. And then it's all just about my body.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

I don't. I. I find it endearing, but double standard. Better not post that about women. Girls on my show.

[Sophie]

Yeah, right.

[Wes]

Okay, wait.

[Sophie]

Okay, everybody, Arby's just dropped something new, and I'm not gonna lie, it's kind of wild.

[Wes]

The new meat in three box is going for 7.99, so break it down.

[Sophie]

All right, you start by picking your sandwich. You have a classic roast beef, a crispy chicken, or the new crispy fish. Honestly, no bad choice here.

[Wes]

And then they keep it coming. You've got the curly fries, the mozzarella sticks, and the peach cobbler roll.

[Sophie]

I'm just saying that dessert might quietly steal the entire show.

[Wes]

And yeah, there's a drink in there too, so it's called the meet in three. But RBC is hooking you up with

[Sophie]

five items, five things for seven. $7.99. It's all the Arby's classics you already love.

[Wes]

So whether it's lunch, dinner, or you just need something solid that actually satisfies.

[Sophie]

The meat in three box is the move we talk about. What makes a great breakfast casserole, though, Because I like the spicy sausage and, like, normal sausage a little bit. Like, that's a good little combo.

[Wes]

Sweet and spicy.

[Sophie]

I like that.

[Wes]

Well, one, actually baking, like, baking actually does require some brain power.

[Sophie]

Agreed.

[Wes]

So I can't just say, like, throw everything in a bowl and, like, just let it go. But, I mean, all the things that aren't good are. That aren't good for you are going to be what makes it good.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

So, like, butter. Yeah. Hash browns.

[Sophie]

Butter. Butter. Butter.

[Wes]

Yeah. I didn't even put that much. I buttered the pan.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Cream and the eggs. I think, like, wait.

[Sophie]

I think people have seen it, but, like, tell them what. What you made. Like, go layer by layer.

[Wes]

Okay. Breakfast casserole. I mean, it's all in a pot.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

It's in a bowl, and then you put it into the pan. Actually, first off, sorry. I got a lot of people tagged me in videos being like, I'm blown away by the scene that Wes made at breakfast casserole. And the whole house has no clue what it is. And they're like, dude, these fucking east coast people not know what a fucking casserole is.

[Sophie]

A lot of people don't know. It's the Midwesterns. Midwesterners put everything in the casserole.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

The coast do not. They don't know really what casseroles are.

[Wes]

Yeah. But I felt seen by the people who were, like, blown away that I was getting, like, weird vibes from everyone after I put my neck, my back, my. My crack into this breakfast casserole.

[Sophie]

This is your Fourth year though, isn't it?

[Wes]

Third.

[Sophie]

Third. And they finally put it on the show.

[Wes]

Thank God it's catching on every year. There's one thing that I do that I forget about that like sticks with me for six months. And I'm getting tagged in like hella casserole videos right now.

[Sophie]

Yeah, it could be a lot worse.

[Wes]

So, okay, so hash browns, 12 eggs, cream. And then I do veggies. You don't have to do veggies. And it gives it color. Jalapeno, red bell pepper, sweet onion. Yeah. And then sweet sausage and spicy sausage. And then I think for the most part that's it. Oh, cheese.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Salt, pepper, salt, pep. Yeah.

[Wes]

Maybe a little garlic powder like that. And then that just goes into a pan and then it's like thrown in for an hour.

[Sophie]

Say cheese.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

Shredded on top.

[Sophie]

Oh yeah, you said that. Yeah, yeah.

[Wes]

And then bring it out, take the tin foil off, shred the cheese right on top. Yeah. If you have breadcrumbs, do it just for vibes. And then I did a little paprika on top. Yeah. To give it color. And then put it back into like broil for like another 15.

[Sophie]

And I'll also say, do you make one or two? What did like I know the show had. But did you make two? Because I feel like, I mean one, it fed everyone.

[Wes]

Oh, everyone gets like a, A brick. Yeah. It goes a long way. It's dense.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

A casserole is dense.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

A casserole in my opinion.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

I think is better in the morning after it sits and, and, and kind of becomes a family.

[Sophie]

And then cuz the flavor is mixed a little bit. You know, you got to let it settle. I think it's like pasta too. I think pasta.

[Wes]

I think a lot of things. You make chili too?

[Sophie]

Yes.

[Wes]

But almost like when it's so fresh and so hot, you're not getting like all of it. They're like the main.

[Sophie]

It's like the chemicals and the molecules don't have time to become a new flavor.

[Wes]

Weirdly, what you said, I can't believe that made sense. But it fully did.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

The chemicals in the molecules, I don't even become their own flavor. Holy hell.

[Sophie]

Feels like I'm getting smarter.

[Wes]

So yeah. That's a casserole if. I'm sorry if people like work. So confused. But it's like not that crazy of a thing. I will say also what people do in the Midwest. Green bean casserole for Thanksgiving, hash brown

[Sophie]

casserole, some spaghetti casserole, a cheeseburger casserole me up.

[Wes]

You could do anything. Honestly, like lasagna in a way is based on. But yeah. So it's looking like the, the summer of breakfast casserole.

[Sophie]

I love that. Oh, and I also. Do you catch. Wait, what? What?

[Wes]

Also in this episode that comes out this week, now that I'm catching on to people like really like Midwest people when they see me do something Midwest, Eat it up.

[Sophie]

It's.

[Wes]

It's storming in the backyard and I walk out to the back, to the back and I just start taking in the storm and I' like, this is what life's.

[Sophie]

Can you smell it? Yeah, I just love that. I love it.

[Wes]

It's so good.

[Sophie]

And I also love the smell of cut fresh grass. That. That's a kind of Midwestern thing I think too. But the. You can just smell the rain. It's the best.

[Wes]

And the sound.

[Sophie]

I feel like you do have to whisper when you're talking about that. Yeah.

[Wes]

It was beautiful. I took it in with. I took it in the storm with Ben. Oh yeah, on the back patio. It was really nice.

[Sophie]

Wait, speaking of summer house though, are you like loving kind of being the

[Wes]

new party planner, you know? But I've always, I've always been that way and I've thrown a party every year.

[Sophie]

But I feel like you're finally getting the credit of like, like you throw good ass parties.

[Wes]

Thank you for that. The first one rocked because we had like a lot of the. The boys were there and that was just good. And county fair felt like such a good. It's fourth of July adjacent.

[Sophie]

Yep.

[Wes]

But like with the, the perfect me twist. And that felt like the best way to do fourth of July because you can't go like fully rogue with fourth of July. But yeah, it was good. I just gotta invite fun people.

[Sophie]

I know.

[Wes]

Big news flash for playing good party. Make sure people there are fun and cool.

[Sophie]

So one of my agents, he's a boy and he's highly obsessed with all Bravo and especially Summer House.

[Wes]

All Bravo.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Yeah, he's. He's great. But he's always like. Do you think that they plan their drunk meal? Because he's like, they either. Right when they get home, they either go straight to the room or they go straight into the kitchen for like the drunk.

[Wes]

That's why I think somehow people like it is because there's just so many moments that are so. Just genuinely usually. Yeah. If there's Mac and cheese in the house, I will always walk in and boil food.

[Sophie]

He literally said that he Goes. They walk straight in, get a thing of water, and start boiling it.

[Wes]

Yeah. Drunk Mac and cheese is a fucking

[Sophie]

so good treasure chest. Which Mac and cheese do you get?

[Wes]

So sometimes there's been Kraft, but there's also a thing called the oodles. Have you heard of oodles? It's like, healthy Mac and cheese. Yeah, right? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's still good, though.

[Sophie]

Oh, it is. Yeah.

[Wes]

So good. They just, like, are like, we're more healthy than you.

[Sophie]

I just feel like shells is the best with that gross cheese that no one cheese. Yeah,

[Wes]

that's probably been in there. It's just we always. So someone orders groceries, it's their. Someone's weak.

[Sophie]

Well, yeah. Tell me that. So each. So I love this. So you tell me. So would you order it on a Tuesday, Wednesday? How do you know what to do?

[Wes]

A producer. The first weekend will be like, someone order groceries. Like, don't forget. Or you guys don't have any food. So someone will, like, volunteer.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

Usually, like, older people do it. Like, I will say also, because my. I almost just said my freshman year, the first year I did it. They're so good about, like, new people don't have to, like, buy dinners or groceries or whatever.

[Sophie]

Wait, the show doesn't pay for the dinners?

[Wes]

Sometimes. But also, I think about it, like, could there potentially be beef or, like, a weird interaction? Because, like, maybe Jesse, like, didn't pay for, like, 18 dinners in a row and, like, always went to the bathroom and the check came out or something?

[Sophie]

Like.

[Wes]

Like, it's never happened. But, like, could you. Because some people resist. People are weird. Or, like, what if someone, like, got dinner and then asked us to Venmo them in the morning? That's weirdo.

[Sophie]

Yeah. You know, imagine if Carl asked for Venmo every time he got bagels.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Yeah, maybe he does.

[Wes]

No. Yeah. No. Everyone's a big, happy family. But, like, what if, okay, say someone new comes in.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

And, like, they got a dinner and then they, like, sent everyone, like, a 20 Venmo.

[Sophie]

Like, that's not what we do around here.

[Wes]

You just be, like, kind of just grossed out.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Venmo. Venmo etiquette is, like, very much a real thing, though.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I never asked for Venmos.

[Wes]

I've. I haven't in a long time. Sometimes if it's like, Airbnbs, I will. If I cop the Airbnb.

[Sophie]

That's different. I'm talking about, like, meals and stuff like that. It all comes back around, like, take care of your people?

[Wes]

Yeah, I went to a dinner that my friends still talk about where one of the girls only ate a side of mashed potatoes and the check came around and we were like, can we split it? And she was like, I just got potatoes. And we were like, it just added like 10 more minutes of fucking math to everyone's night and you're just like,

[Sophie]

fuck, pay for it. Come on. Yeah, please.

[Caller Host]

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[Sophie]

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[Wes]

um, so then go back to the grocery store. Someone, someone sends like, what does everyone want? And like, I'm usually not that picky, but like, like sometimes the guys are like, we need like protein in the fridge, like, whatever. And then the girls usually just want stuff for like cocktails and like fruit.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

And so someone orders and like, you hopefully like, don't fuck it up.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

But then you like, we like take turns every weekend ordering stuff. But like, so breakfast casserole weekend. I was like, I got it because I'm gonna make a breakfast casserole. Makes sense in the morning.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

So I could do that. Amanda makes guacamole some days.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Lindsay makes up pineapple upside down cake. People kind of have their own things now. They'll like hone in that they're going to make.

[Sophie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Wes]

And then usually, like, if you want to make it that weekend, then like, that'll be your time to like order groceries.

[Sophie]

You know how like everyone does kind of like have a dinner or like a whatever. How do you know if you're like going to go out for dinner or if you want to like hire a chef and like have a hibachi night or have like a Italian night?

[Wes]

It's kind of just up to you. I mean like, you can cook, you can bring someone in to cook or we can go out. All right. Real talk. I've been living in my JLab earbuds lately. Like flights, gym sessions, walking to grab coffee. They're just always in.

[Sophie]

And the crazy part about it is that the battery life is actually ridiculous. I generally can't remember the last time I charged them. And it's been weeks.

[Wes]

The sound is legit. Clear, loud, no weird distortion when you crank it up.

[Sophie]

Also, I've been using their over ear headphones on flights, which is a game changer. The noise canceling hits and it's super comfortable when you're trying to take a little sleepy.

[Wes]

And here's what I love. JLab doesn't make it complicated. You're getting premium features without paying some insane premium price.

[Sophie]

I. Whether I'm locked in at a game, zoning out on a plane or just vibing to music while walking around. They've got something for whatever mood I'm in.

[Wes]

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[Wes]

Another interesting thing. So the Hamptons is not like this big metropolitan area.

[Sophie]

I've never been. I don't. I don't even know.

[Wes]

Our house is in the woods.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

It's in the middle of the woods. So, like, if you're ordering food, there's not a lot of places to order from. Like, McDonald's sometimes will deliver. I think there's a Wendy's.

[Sophie]

Oh, no, no.

[Wes]

Okay.

[Sophie]

I was gonna say we need to talk about the little.

[Wes]

The guy.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Did you see it yet or. No.

[Sophie]

The one little tiny bite.

[Wes]

They said it's the meme from when the Krusty Krab, when he just. When it zooms in and his lips get peeled and he. And he nibbles it with his teeth. Sorry, guys, we're talking about. The CEO from McDonald's did a video eating.

[Sophie]

Well, he had, like, a huge.

[Wes]

Eating a cheeseburger. And it's the fucking weirdest video of all time.

[Sophie]

Clearly, he doesn't believe in his product.

[Wes]

He called it a product instead of a cheeseburger, but he just takes, like, a. Like the most nibble of this cheeseburger I've ever seen.

[Sophie]

And then he.

[Wes]

And then he goes. I'm like, is it your first time eating a cheeseburger?

[Sophie]

Wait, can I tell you something? I went down a rabbit hole for two days one time that the. This is what it said. It's not, like, set in stone that it's true because it's on the Internet, but CEO. Hey, guys.

[Wes]

Everything on the Internet. Not all true, by the way, but

[Sophie]

CEO of McDonald's doesn't let any of his kids eat McDonald's. Who? Who? This is so stupid of me. Who's the guy who started Apple?

[Wes]

Tim Cook?

[Sophie]

Steve Jobs. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but none of them even have Apple product and don't allow their kids to use any of it. Tell me why that. That's the red flag.

[Wes]

I know the Campbell soup guy got in trouble recently for being like. I, uh. I would Never let anyone, like, have Campbell's soup. It's, like, meant for. He said something really. He said it's, like, for poor people or something crazy.

[Sophie]

Well, I must be poor, because I thought it was really good.

[Wes]

I would. I would crack open a fucking tomato soup from Campbell's. And if I made a grilled cheese. Come on, bro.

[Sophie]

But is it. Is that not, like, a little concerning of, like, all these people? Like, they don't let their own family use it or eat it.

[Wes]

Yeah, but that's fucking not. That's. That's not surprising anymore, you know?

[Sophie]

Epstein,

[Caller Host]

Everybody all right.

[Wes]

Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of a metaphor for capitalism.

[Sophie]

Anyway, you said there's, like, McDonald's. There's, like, a pizza place. There's.

[Wes]

Yeah. Actually, I don't.

[Sophie]

I don't.

[Wes]

I can't think of the last time we had pizza. Oh, no, we did.

[Sophie]

I thought it was, like, one of the first episodes.

[Wes]

You're so right.

[Sophie]

Yeah, you're so right.

[Wes]

Um, and then, like, there's a Chinese place that we'll order from that, like, that's usually the best. And that does well. In the fridge.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

When we come home.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

So if we order, like, we'll come home. And then there's leftovers, too, from dinner.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Which is good. But I have. I don't think I've ever walked through those doors after midnight and, like, not gone to the kitchen.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Plus, when you're, like, out and it's club. I will say this, too. When we go out, it is a lot of. Like, there's not cameras, but we do, do do a lot of. We're with each other, but it's. Sometimes it's pictures and talking and. And, like, doing that whole thing. And so then we all uber home and get to, like, kind of, like, let our hair down a little with just each other.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

And we. I mean, I always forget that it's fudgeing on a show, like, because it's just, like, fudgeing three little GoPros.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

You know.

[Sophie]

Oh, in the. In the cars.

[Wes]

No, in the kitchen.

[Sophie]

Oh.

[Wes]

Like, we've been away from production for so long. When we come home.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Like, we haven't been filming for, like, six hours. Okay, so then we're not six, but, like, three or four.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

So then we come back, and you're like, your guard is so down. It's like. It just isn't good vibes. There's a moment, too, where production will be like, all right, like, we're going home. Like, have fun tonight. Do whatever. And it. This is like, so. I don't know if you guys. This is, like, so lame, but when they, like, call it and we're all about to, like, go out not mic'd up without cameras, everyone in the house takes their mic off at the same time. It's like. It's like, like, kind of like getting ready for the night out, and everyone just, like. It's kind of like this freedom gesture. And so we all, like, take it off, hand it, and we all, like, say our goodbyes to everyone and then go out. And it's like, kind of funny when. I don't know, we just all, like, at the exact same time. Like, Mike's.

[Sophie]

It's like. It's like, you just like. Yeah, I love that.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I love that.

[Wes]

I don't know. I. I just think it's a fun show because it's. We're all just like, hang. We just hang out in the house.

[Sophie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Wes]

There's some mics all over the house, too.

[Sophie]

See, I think I would get trouble. Not trouble, but, like, I also, like. Yeah, like, I'm too, like, present of a person that I just, like, say whatever.

[Wes]

The show doesn't, like, want us canceled, though.

[Sophie]

No, no, I'm not saying I'll say canceled stuff, but, like, kind of just like how I will always just think it's funny that, like, when you made fun of the girls crying for the first time, like, I would always be talking like that. You know what I mean? Like, not purposely trying to stir the pot, but just, like, why did she just cry? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, but that is fun. That is good. Yeah, I want more bloopers.

[Wes]

Yeah, I want more. That's what our. That's what our tick tocks are for.

[Sophie]

Yes. And then people are eating those up. Like, that's what people want to see are, like, the bloopers are the. The fun thing.

[Wes]

I have to sit on those for so long and, like, they're the funniest videos ever, and I just have to, like. I just look at them in my drafts for seven months, and I'm like, I can't wait to do this.

[Sophie]

Wait, so when. When stuff is dropping by, like, weekly, are you, like, oh, I finally get to drop, like.

[Wes]

Yeah, so, like, the one for this week. I'll post it tomorrow. KJ and I were, like, around the pool, like, sword fighting, and I, like, swords are like lights and, like, tripped and fell in the pool and, like, pulled my phone out and like, threw it. Like, that stuff never makes it. The other we got a pool, basketball hoop. And I made it from the patio upstairs this summer. And, like, I just know it won't make it.

[Sophie]

You just heard about it.

[Wes]

I hope Bravo doesn't get mad at me, but we have, like, a golden years party where we all dressed up as, like, older people.

[Sophie]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Wes]

And you know how everyone thinks I'm like. People think I look like Robin Williams.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

So I did Mrs. Doubtfire and I'm like drastic Mrs. Doubtire the whole time. And I did like, multiple tik toks to her audio.

[Sophie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Wes]

That I'm like, so good.

[iHeart Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Wes]

That'll hopefully just explode.

[Sophie]

My Lindsay, my sister Lindsay. Cuz like, they, you know, they show you, like, clippets of whatever, and she's like, I think that the old people. Because you guys go all out like balls to the walls in your costumes, which make it even way better.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

But she goes, I think it's so funny because, like, everyone's kind of, like, arguing or like, whatever, but everyone, like, looks old. I think that is so funny.

[Wes]

No, they cut to the trailer is a scene of me being, like, so sad and I like, lay my head down and I have a wig on and like a, a brooch thing on my, like a flower and earrings.

[Sophie]

But that is so funny.

[Wes]

It is good.

[Sophie]

It's Lindsay was dying. She's like, how do they even, like, have serious or, like, dramatic conversations when everyone looks like, old like that? Yeah, I think it's funny.

[Wes]

I, I, I've seen on the Internet a lot that people, like, love that part of it.

[Sophie]

So good. Yeah, it's good.

[Caller Host]

All right, and now to the next one, guys. Some Arby's. Hot girls of the week. Speaking of hot girls, maybe some tall ones. Josh, Listen up.

[Wes]

Josh, my hot girl of the week is a very special woman. She works in Atlanta. Okay?

[Sophie]

She the one who clicked your ears off?

[Wes]

Not my ears. She, she lined up my beard. She brought my mustache down and gave me the MVP treatment with.

[Sophie]

What do you mean? What do you mean? Mustache down.

[Wes]

So like, usually you see like this for. Her name's Mo. I got to give her a shout out. She's lovely. So fun.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Wes]

Gave me the best day of my life.

[Sophie]

Oh.

[Wes]

Oh, sh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't care. Like, what's the main scent that people use for, like, spa stuff? Lavender hot towel put on my face with, like, lavender oils. I had to show her love because she made my day lovely.

[Sophie]

Really? Wait, can you Tell me. So when you say just down, you just mean just trimmed?

[Wes]

Yeah, but, like, it's. Usually the mustache is more than my beard. We just even them all out like this. It's like this part is still technically a mustache.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

But it's just. It's not longer than the rest of this.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Wes]

Does that make sense?

[Sophie]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you normally do that?

[Wes]

No, I usually just. I usually do my beard all by myself.

[Sophie]

Really?

[Wes]

But I don't trim here. I just trim it in front of my lips. But I don't like full razor it. Does that make sense?

[Sophie]

Yeah. And I. I complimented you yesterday. The eyebrows are looking good too.

[Wes]

Thank you.

[Sophie]

Yeah. That hurts. Threading hurts.

[Wes]

Don't tell people that.

[Sophie]

No. Next. Next. Wait, can we talk about that?

[Wes]

Eyebrow threading?

[Sophie]

Yeah. No, I think that men should groom themselves. And can I also tell you something? And I know women are. Will never admit this, ever. We dermaplane our face too. We have hair on our face. And, like, everyone's like, oh, I don't. We all have hair on our face. I did. I always cut myself.

[Wes]

And you're blonde, so that's like. Yeah, I know. Yeah. There's people who probably like, really appreciate it.

[Sophie]

So weird to talk about, though.

[Wes]

I don't think it is.

[Sophie]

No. I think there's a stigma around, like, women taking the hair off their face.

[Wes]

Not that that might be a you guys thing, because I don't think about it much.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I don't think men do, but I think for women, like, we, like, everyone. Dermaplanes.

[Wes]

I don't even know what dermaplane is.

[Sophie]

Okay, so Dermaplane is like. It helps with, like. You do it at spas.

[Wes]

Dude, I used. Do you know what Nair is?

[Sophie]

Yeah. Did you do it?

[Wes]

I put it on my. I used it on my balls in college. I used it on my balls in college. And it's so bad for you. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, this way I don't have to, like, shave my balls. I burned probably, like, so many important things off my, like, inside of me. Someone said. Someone was like, just use this. And I was like, okay.

[Sophie]

But that was when it was brand new. But then it, like, came out real fast. It, like, burned you?

[Wes]

Yep.

[Sophie]

Did it just start burning?

[Wes]

Kinda, but all the hair came off.

[Sophie]

So did you. Do you still use it?

[Wes]

The chicks are really grossed out by me, actually. With, like, the smoothest balls in all of Montana. Yikes. I've heard. Yeah. As I've gotten older, I've. I know that that's not the way to go.

[Sophie]

So you still don't use it. Why do you look like that

[Wes]

anyways? Dermaplane.

[Sophie]

Dermaplane is a lot of, like, when you go get facials and stuff like that. It's. It's like this blade, and it gets, like, dead skin off, but it also gets, like, the hair off your face, and it, like, makes your. Your face look, like, very smooth and shiny.

[Wes]

Oh, okay.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Like, do it all the time.

[Wes]

Where do you think Would you. If you didn't use it, would you have, like. Would you have, like, lamb chop sideburns?

[Sophie]

No, because. No.

[Wes]

Just taking the floor. Just new, like, new facial hair.

[Sophie]

Yeah, no, I. Actually, funny story real quick. Lindsay's gonna kill me. I'm blonde. So, like, I feel like my. I don't really have a lot of hair in general anyway. And, like, I have to, like, dye my eyebrows because, like, I barely have eyebrows. But Lindsay has. And, like, I feel like girls who have. With darker hair, they do have kind of like.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

A little musty little mustache.

[Wes]

A little shadow.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Listen to this.

[Wes]

No worries.

[Sophie]

It was so funny, guys. Lindsay was, like, just going into high school, you know, like, you're already kind of nervous being a freshman and puberty. Yeah. Our little cousin, he was like. I think in, like, first grade or second grade, he goes, why do you have a mustache?

[Wes]

Oh, no.

[Sophie]

I just think it's so funny.

[Wes]

But he.

[Sophie]

Well, Lindsay doesn't even have a mustache. Like, it, like.

[Wes]

But it's. I'm sure.

[Sophie]

But you can. It's like, just like, it, like. You know how some girls actually have a mustache? Lindsay, like, maybe had, like. It's just a little.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

I don't even know what you call it.

[Wes]

We all know that everyone grows hair in the same places.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

It's all good, Linds.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Is she still.

[Sophie]

No, she dermaplates.

[Wes]

So that's that Hager Lou, who's yours?

[Sophie]

Okay, you know what? I will give mine to my flight attendant on the way up here.

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Love.

[Sophie]

Her name was Ashley.

[Wes]

Ashley. Yep.

[Sophie]

Ashley was great. And the only reason why I'm gonna give it to her is because she gave me an extra blanket, an extra pillow on my red eye.

[Wes]

So let's give it her two blankets.

[Sophie]

Yeah. It's cold, bro.

[Wes]

She should have given you. Did she give you extra sun chips?

[Sophie]

No, I was asleep. I didn't. I missed my meal. I missed my meal sometimes.

[Wes]

I haven't been eating my. My plain meals recently.

[Sophie]

Honestly, kind of gross. They've. They're not as good as they. They need a. Oh, also not a big fan of Southwest anymore.

[Wes]

Never was.

[Sophie]

Dude, bags are so expensive there. You can't sit anywhere. And flight attendants have gotten pretty rude.

[Wes]

Oh, I think that. I think the way Southwest does their flights is so fucking weird and scary. I would never just freeboard a plane without a seat. It's so weird.

[Sophie]

Well, you don't anymore.

[Wes]

Yeah, but that's because it's weird and they know that. That was stupid and dumb.

[Sophie]

Why didn't you like it?

[Wes]

Because, like, what do you want to board a plane and, like, you have to choose a seat anytime you get on a bus and you're like, can I sit with you? Like, it's just, like, weird. I don't. I don't want to do that. All right, quick timeout. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet. Florida Sportsbook. With Hard Rock Bet, there's literally always something going on. Hoops, hockey, plus all the same game parlays, live betting, and player props. If you haven't signed up yet, new users can double their winnings on their first 10 bets up to 50 bucks. So if you were supposed to win 100, now you're looking at 200. Boom. And the hard rock bet app is the only legal sportsbook in Florida. And it's live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois, Colorado and Michigan. With more states coming soon. They've got all new promos every single day. Go ahead and download the Hard Rock BET app and make your first deposit today. Playable in bonus bets. Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe in Florida. In Florida, offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states must be 21 and older and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee and Virginia. To play, terms and conditions do apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, call 1-88- admit it. And in Indiana, if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants to help, call 1-809-with it. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- Gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Yeah. The world Baseball Classic starts this week, and this is brought to us by hard rock bet. I want to say the last one was 3:20, 23, 2026. Three years ago, I watched when Ohtani pitched to Mike Trout, and they were teammates at the time, before he signed with the Dodgers, before Otani did, which is just like an all time. Like, if you're a baseball fan, you couldn't write that up any better. Even though Mike Trout, to me, a very underwhelming famous baseball player.

[Sophie]

Can I ask you something real quick? Because, like, I feel like baseball just has so many games, and I get confused. Is this like the Olympics for baseball? Pretty much.

[Wes]

I mean, paraphrase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's dope, though. Like, it's fun because also those, like, all the Central American countries are so good, and they, like, get so into it. It's played in Miami. I think they're. Is there any in Japan? I think they're starting in Japan.

[Sophie]

Wait, what do you mean starting Japan? Like, there's games there in Miami or they're moving it to Japan?

[Wes]

All Japan.

[Caller Host]

They have like, four locations.

[Wes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sophie]

Wow.

[Wes]

But like, them playing in Miami when it's like, like Dominican Republic, Venezuela, all those team, like, so dope.

[Caller Host]

Okay, so you got Tokyo, San Juan, Puerto Rico, Houston, Miami.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Wow.

[Wes]

That's like, so perfect for that. Yeah, but yeah, like, Korea, Japan, big baseball countries. When I. We went to Korea last year, and I was like, we were a week early before their baseball season started.

[Sophie]

Dude, you should have.

[Wes]

Their baseball in Korea is like SEC Football in the South. Yes.

[Sophie]

What do the stadiums look like there? The same.

[Wes]

Big. And they're fun and they're like, so into it. So dope. It's so dope, dude.

[Sophie]

That's cool.

[Wes]

Yeah. So, like, obviously Japan now.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

They have Ohtani and that. What was this? Yoma. Someone help me. The pitcher, Yamamoto, he killed it. It's. It's dope. Like, I. I. Once you get to, like, the quarterfinal of this, I'll be. I'll be like, super dialed. But obviously, you know.

[Sophie]

Wait, so how does America do?

[Wes]

Yeah, we're good. We won two world classes ago. That's when, like, Eric Hosmer.

[Sophie]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Wes]

All those guys.

[Caller Host]

This dude, Adam Jones, that year robbed

[Wes]

a sick home run. Yeah.

[Caller Host]

Pulled it out the crowd.

[Wes]

I remember that. That was watching that in San Diego. He made the catch on the wall and then he. He landed and he. And he USA himself.

[Sophie]

Yes, I remember that.

[Wes]

It was like, iconic. Sick. Yeah, dude.

[Caller Host]

USA athletes be stepping up in the moment. Steph Curry with the night night. You got Adam Jones over here. No pressure, usa. But we're. We're watching you guys. They're the favorites right now. Minus 115. Japan is second at plus 325. So if you guys want to predict

[Wes]

the winner, I'll give it to usa. I mean, we just want, you know, keep the hockey momentum.

[Sophie]

Do we pretty much get all of our Golden Gloves and just stack our team?

[Wes]

I mean, It's.

[Sophie]

But.

[Wes]

But the one thing is, you would be surprised how, like, many dudes in the MLB are, like, are playing for other. Other other countries.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that.

[Wes]

Pretty competitive. Yeah. It's like a really fun tournament.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Good. Well, now I'm kind of invested.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

I didn't even know it.

[Wes]

I'm. The fucking championship in Miami is like, when is it?

[Sophie]

When. When is it?

[Wes]

Right before MLB starts. So it's like, it's quick. I slide, dude. I would slide heavy.

[Sophie]

That's a event that we would love to go to.

[Wes]

Bobby Wood Jr. Followed me in December. Fun, fun. Shout out for me in the. On the pod.

[Sophie]

Who do. Who's our coaches? Who's USA coaches?

[Wes]

It's also weird because you're like. But being a manager for that is weird because it's. Do you. Do you try to keep a lineup steady or do you mix it up so other dudes can play? Because they're all good.

[Sophie]

I know that. But that's what makes it. That's why I want to know who's kind of.

[Caller Host]

Mark DeRosa is the manager. It's his second year doing it.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Caller Host]

Not the highest profile name, but other key coaches on the staff. Andy Pettit, former Yankee. Skip Schumacher. Matt Holliday, former cardinal, St. Louis. David Ross, former Chicago Cub. So, I mean, we got the heavy hitters, so, yeah, we gotta bring it home.

[Sophie]

Are all GMs the skip?

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

So listen to this. I went to a spring training game because it's all out in Scottsdale right now, and it's beautiful weather to be doing it.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

And I thought I met the GM for the Cubs. Awesome. Dude. I thought his name was Skip.

[Wes]

Well, if you call him Skippy doesn't know.

[Sophie]

What up, Skipper? No, I was like.

[Wes]

I was like, skippy.

[Sophie]

And they're like, you know that's not his. And I was like, nope. I was like, learn something new every day.

[Wes]

But, yeah, let's. Let's go get this and then roll.

[Sophie]

Honestly, what's a great Katie episode? Huh?

[Wes]

Oh, Katie. I thought you were saying KD.

[Sophie]

Kev.

[Wes]

Who's Katie?

[Sophie]

KD.

[Wes]

I agree. 3. 5. What does it look like on the monitor? Is that correct?

[Sophie]

53, baby.

[Wes]

Nope.

[Sophie]

There you go.

[Wes]

There it is.

[Sophie]

35, starting to fly by.

[Wes]

That's like his. I'm can't think of anyone else in the world of sports who's 35.

[Sophie]

I don't know if I really like that number.

[Wes]

Jaylen Watson for the Chiefs.

[Sophie]

Whatever.

[Wes]

Thanks for watching, guys.

[Sophie]

This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human.