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Another thing, I don't know why this reminded me of just like games you asking about Bria, but I'm officially three for three on being fined by the wnba.
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Holy shit. For this? For the pod again?
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They didn't like my comments on Paige Beckers.
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No way.
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I didn't even say anything. Bad.
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Week four. I won't even like hop around and fake small talk. I think everyone probably wants to know how you're feeling and what's going on. I'll say before you even talk. I know you're a tough girl. That looked painful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So you can. If you want to run me through.
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The play, I will. So the news is about to drop, so we're okay to talk about this, but I did tear my McLaren and if you're gonna hurt your knee, that is like the best possible case. And so, you know, this year, just as a whole, like I think the league as a whole, but really us, we've just gone through so much adversity and then injury wise has just been like, you can't make this shit up, to be honest. And so during Connecticut's game on Sunday, I was just in the paint trying to be help side and someone ran into my knee and it just snapped like when. And knee injuries are weird to me. Like, I don't really like thinking about, but I felt a pop right away. And so I'm really in good spirits because I knew that I. I hurt myself pretty good. Um, but I will say I'm just like, thankful. I know this is not probably the time to say this, but I'm just thankful to like, be where I'm at and be with the organization and the girls that I'm with because they have brought like, life and like my love of basketball back. And so I really am in. In really like, good spirits. I know. Like, I'm just, I'm thankful to be where I'm at and thankful for the year that I got. I am going to be done for the rest of the season, so that kind of sucks. So our next podcast. Our next podcast will be pretty good because I'll just be getting done with surgery, so this should be a good. A good tune in. It's all good.
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I thought that maybe there was, like, a chance that you could come back later, but. No, I'm so sorry.
A
No, no, it's all good. It's part of it, right? So it is, but it is what it is. Yeah, I know, I know. So that's that. But you want to know what's actually crazy, though, is Sydney. Yeah. Sydney had her birthday the next day. We played. She completely tore her ACL and everything. It was my birthday. We played the next day, and then I hurt my knee. And we still have a couple more birthdays on our team, and everyone's like, do they play or do they not play?
B
Wait. Yeah, I guess also happy belated. I guess you probably moved on from your birthday quick, but damn.
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Yeah, it's all good, though. But when you turn 29, how is your dude 29? I'm getting. I'm getting old.
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Sick.
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That's how I said I'm getting old.
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Well, no, I was riding back from the. From out east and was checking my phone and just saw. I don't even think I saw. I don't think I got an alert. I think the play came up on, like, my Twitter feed.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
And I was like, oh, fuck, is that Sophie? And, yeah, sure enough, I think I might have messaged your sister. And I was like, do we know what happened?
A
Oh, shit, that's a bummer list. Speaking of Lindsay and your mom, she's literally in labor right now, so, like, a podcast, she could have.
B
Should we FaceTime in.
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Can you call your mom real quick?
B
Dude, there's so much going on. Should we call? No. Is that crazy?
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Call.
B
All right, let's do it.
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You try or you try your mom. I. I'll try Lindsay.
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Lindsay's not going to answer you.
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Oh, gosh, this is good.
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Wait, here we go.
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Calling her. Dude, what is giving birth?
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She's too. She's too professional.
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But I feel like Lindsay loves me enough that even if she was pushing, she'd be like, answer.
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Voicemail. I'll leave her voicemail. I'm just gonna say she's on the pod. And when we're hoping for a mom, it's west and Sophie, we're just calling you from the pod to say, you know, godspeed is Lindsay.
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Lindsay's vagina.
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Good luck with Lindsay's. Sophie said vagina. I Would never say that. And we hope everything goes well. Oh, Lindsay's calling. And just have fun. Take a picture and send it to us. Good luck. Bye.
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Send a picture, Lindsay. Turn her camera on. Maybe she didn't.
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My mom probably told her no phones.
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Yeah.
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Push while pushing.
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Wait.
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Okay. That's so fun. Okay.
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Big weekend here, Lindsay. Linds. Yeah. Have you given birth yet? No. Well, you're on the podcast. Wes just tried calling your dog. His mom, she didn't answer. She just left. Wes.
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Oh, well, Lindsay, tell Lindsay I said good luck and give my mom a hug and take a picture and we're excited of her.
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Wes said good luck. Give you. Give his mom a hug and send us a picture. Okay. Well, thank you. Okay, love you. Bye.
B
Go. Go get him, Lindsay. Bye.
A
She. She sounded drained.
B
Yeah, she's busy. Okay. So crazy week for you. I feel like every week we hop on here, there's, like, some crazy shit that went down. Dude, you don't have to comment on this. I. And I. I'll go first.
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Okay.
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I know that there. We're, like, in this heated midst of a discussion throughout the season that, like, WNBA refs, like, need to be better. The things have gotten chippy. People kind of bully the fever. I did watch the play. Twitter says it. A lot of people saying it was dirty. She was, like, smiling after. Whatever. You can say what you want about this. It didn't look dirty to me. Just like a bang, bang play under the. Under the rim.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Do you have no hard feelings?
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No, I don't, because I know Bria, and I'm actually really good friends with Bria, and I have been waiting to get on the pod and so we could talk about this, because I did want to tweet it out, but I don't think that there was no ill intent. I think it was a basketball play. I was just in the wrong spot at the wrong time. She felt like there was no way that she would go in there and potentially try to hurt me. And so I have nothing but love for Bria. And I even, like, told my mom because she tweeted something. I was like, no, mom. Like, I get it. But, like, I promise you that, like, I was like, Bria and I are super cool and, like, she would never try to hurt me because there are some girls that I think might, but she. She wouldn't do that. And so I have nothing but love. And so I hope people stop giving Bria some heat, because I don't. I don't think she meant to do that. At all.
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Yeah, she was also, like. She was like, passing the ball while it happened. Like, it just was very sports. Like, it was bang, bang.
A
Yeah. And I think that sm. It wasn't like a. It was like a. Ooh. You know, like one of those. So I'm. I'm totally fine. It's whatever.
B
Yeah. You guys have been so fucking banged up this year, though. It's absolutely crazy. Are we.
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Do you.
B
Are you gonna have to have surgery or is it just pt?
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No. Yeah, I'll have surgery Friday.
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Okay.
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But again, out of all things, it could have been way worse. So, like, I'm. I'm taking this as a dub.
B
Have you ever had surgery? Yeah. You know, I broke my leg my junior year in spring ball. Yeah, it was my roommate. It was like seven on seven shells. Like, it was not. It's a practice where you're supposed to, like, stay off the ground, you know?
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Yeah.
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And I broke on the ball. It got tipped, so it was like, kind of spluttering in front of me. I didn't make a play on it. He slid to catch it underneath me right when I planted my left leg. He slid like baseball slid, like, with his knees tucked. And they went spiral fracture into my fib. And then it went down. And I guess doctors say if you have a spiral fracture that it's so fast or there's so much force that all the muscles detach from your bone. So I had a spiral in my fib, and then every muscle in my ankle just, like, let go of my whole.
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What?
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Dude, it was so gross. But I was gonna tell you. First game back my junior year had an interception, and it was like the most, like, full circle moment of my sports career. Cause, like, rehab fucking sucks. It's so exhausting. You just. Especially when you're an athlete and like, all you. You're. You depend on your body so much, and you can do so many cool things with your body once starting over, not being able to, like, go get yourself a glass of water or, like, drive your car like this. It's fun being hurt for, like, two days. People forget.
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Yeah.
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Stop saying feel better after two or three days. And then you're stuck by yourself. And. Yeah, to do rehab for that long and then to get back in a game and, like, get a pick. I remember, like, just. Absolutely. Yeah. I just screamed as loud as I could and, like, that was a special moment. And my dad was there, which was really cool, but my dad. So that was my surgery junior year.
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Hey, another thing. I don't know why? This reminded me of just like, games. You asking about Bria, but I'm officially three for three on being fined by the wnba.
B
Holy shit. For this, for the pod again.
A
They didn't like my comments on Paige Beckers.
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No way.
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I didn't even say anything bad.
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On. On the. On the. On the whistle. On the quick whistle.
A
Yeah, but, like, why, like, if we.
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Were to talk about Paige. Here's a good question. Well, that rookie of the year debate, I've seen a lot of.
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I know, dude. Well, I. Well, you heard me say. I was like, yeah, she'll probably be rookie of the year, but Sonia is, like, making a very strong case. Like, she is solid. Solid.
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Caitlyn wasn't unanimous, Is that correct?
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No. Yeah, I'm sure she's gonna get it regardless.
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Yeah, but unanimous is, like, a very cool thing on a positive note. Yeah, I know. Knee aside, you guys, I don't know where you're watching, but fever with the largest comeback in franchise history. I guess I don't know how much you want to contribute to being a part of that. Maybe everyone rallied around you, but that's sick, dude.
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I think that is so funny because everyone's like, what a positive thing. And I was like, well, yeah, but we should have never been there in the first place.
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But no, but it's a huge thing. Yeah.
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Hell yeah. No, Kelsey, I don't know if you know Kelsey Mitchell, but if you don't, you need to. And the whole fricking basketball world should know who she is by now. But she had 34 points in the second half in. I'm not kidding. Since she's been in the league, she has been a high level, like, elite scorer, and she just doesn't really get the recognition that she deserves. And I think she's finally starting to put people on notice. But, like, playing against her, she's one of the toughest people to freaking play against. Being on your team, you know, she's a bucket. And so I think she proved herself on Sunday for sure.
B
I mean, it also sounds like when someone goes down, you guys absolutely find the right people to step up.
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Yeah, well, we keep signing people, but we're running out of people to sign because, like, our whole roster's injured, so. I know that's always fun, too.
B
Have you been. What's the longest injury you've had in your, let's say, like, college plus career?
A
Well, all last year I was playing with a dead collarbone. Like, part of my collarbone was dead, so that sucked. I couldn't, like, Brush my teeth or do anything. But I would owe. Get a little help, you know, during the games. Yeah, some medicine.
B
But I mean like, have you, have you been a non playing part of a team in a long time? Like where now your role is to gonna. Is gonna be entirely different.
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Oh, oh, oh no. This is the first time. This is the first time in like probably four years. Yeah. Which will be fine though because I, I wanna, I love our team. So it's gonna be easy to still go and like be a part of it. But it just, I just feel bad. Like it's one thing after another, you know what I mean? Like that shit sucks, dude. Yeah, it really does suck.
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But is Caitlin close? How's she coming along?
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Dude, I don't know. I. Everyone keeps asking. Everyone's like, you know, and I'm, I'm like, literally she doesn't even know like our. It's just like a day by day legit type of thing. And so yeah, she's close. But like you also have to remember like she could be playing if it wasn't in the WNBA by now. But like at this level with how deep and like how good people are nowadays in our league, which is the best it's ever been, like you, you can't just be good, you have to be on top of your game. And so just trying to get her back in game shape I think is what they're trying to do. But like again it's, it's literally a day by day. I'm not holding out any information, I just literally don't know.
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Did you see Skip Bayless said that the WNBA is lying about her injury.
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Dude, that's, that's literally bullshit. Like no one's lying. No one. That's not.
B
He said maybe he and Clark has taken a couple of injury breaks just because she needed a mental break from all the jealousy and resentment and bullying and cheap shots.
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Okay, here's the thing. When you're an elite level player, you not being able to play is the hardest part. Mentally, physically, emotionally. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's not playing, it's. When you're playing is like when you're, it's a part of it. Like you're, you're built for that. So when people have say stuff like that, I'm just like, just, just shut up. Shut up. Yeah, but dude, tell me about. I know you're not allowed to talk details, but I've been getting so many questions about stuff. Summer house and like how taping's Going, like, how. Like, what do the weekends look like? Who's your favorite? I don't know, like, in the house, who's your least favorite?
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I'm not getting any of it.
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I know, but, like, you could say from last season at least, because people on the street here, they're like, dude, we love West. We want to know more about West. I was like, all right, well, like. And people want to know. Like, wait, time, time, time. People actually want to know. Like, are you really trying to find love or are you just trying to have fun?
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The show's not even about finding love. Like, it's like, just.
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I know, but people are very interested in your. In your relational status.
B
Well, there's so much TV and reality TV that's based off of, like, there is a dating premise, you know?
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Yeah.
B
Love is blind love. Like, everyone. Every show is about, like, dating. I will say Summer house doesn't actually. Like. It is not about dating. There's no rule seating. You don't have to date anybody. Like, it is. There's not a single stipulation to summer house. You just show up and, like, obviously, when people live in a house and go out and, like, see each other every weekend, have a drink, like, it does happen, but it is nice to, like, not have to do it. Like, you know how in the Bachelor, it's like, every. It's like the six episodes, the first, there's always the first person to be like, I love him. And it's like, so just, like, you feel like you have to take all these steps. Also, the psychological warfare in filming the Bachelor, I've heard is absolutely just, like, so crazy. But I will say another thing with this show is, like, this is what I would be doing in the summer anyways, you know?
A
Yeah. Like, no.
B
Doing a sharehouse, hitting the beach. Maybe I'd be in the Ozarks instead of the Hamptons. But it's fun. You know? I took Kyle to the Ozarks this summer.
A
Dude, I saw that on your story or whatever. I think you text me asking if I was going to be down there or something. I was like, no, I'm in season.
B
Yeah, we've been down there random times.
A
Yeah, I know.
B
Yeah, it's. It's. It's the best place ever. He had a blast.
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It is. It is a hidden gem. Like, people shit on that. And I'm like, you don't understand.
B
It's just like, so. It's just so Missouri, you know? But that's where everyone. Like, that's where you go, I Love to ask people what their body of water was as a child. So, like, Missouri people. It's going to be those arcs. Like, in New York. It'll be like, Jersey Shore, or it'll be the Hamptons, or it'll be a lake in upstate New York. Like, I'm trying to think Indiana.
A
What did Kyle think of it, though?
B
Had a blast. He's like. The guy has a motor that I've never seen on any human ever.
A
Like, where did you take him, though?
B
Listen to this schedule. We went out in Colombia on a Friday. It was. What's the. Not Labor Day, but the one before Memorial Day.
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Memorial Day Sunday.
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Okay, so we go to. We get to Columbia Saturday, I go out. I take him to. We do like, a Harpos. Um, and then we did Shakespeare's for a few beverages. And then.
A
Yum. God, I can't remember where we went to Booches.
B
Yeah, we. We went to Booches before we even dropped our luggage off. Started at Booches, then dropped off luggage. Oh, and I took him to. I took him to Lost Marks. Not Lost Margs. Trops. I had him get trops, too. He was like, this is so crazy. And then. Then we went home, and then we popped back out, and then we. We ended the night at El Rancho. And, like, I don't know if you've clocked. If you've watched enough summer house to know there's, like. Everyone has, like, patterns. But one of Kyle's is, like, eating drunk food alone. Like, he'll just come in the kitchen.
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No, that's what I was about to say. Everyone is, like, away, and he's literally in the. In the kitchen by himself, eyes closed, eating.
B
So I was like, what better place to take this man than El Rancho in Columbia, Missouri? And we go in. Dude, his face. I have a video of it. He opens the box and his eyes get big, and he, like, can't think of words to say. And then he just shoveled steak nachos into his mouth for an hour. And I was like, that's perfect. Then we wake up early, drive to the Ozarks, check in at the hotel. He does his DJ set from probably, like, probably like 2 to 6. And then we get on shady gators.
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Oh, nice.
B
Then we get on a boat and just rip it. We walk on the boat, and there's just a DJ deck. Like, it was like, this was all made for him.
A
Oh, my God.
B
And then we just whip it around the Ozarks. Okay. Then it gets crazier. Then we're out to like 6am, wake up in the hotel, put him in the car. And I'm like, dude, this is like the only shot you'll get to like see the farm. Like, do you want to go? And he was like. He was like, let's do it. We stopped for 20 minutes and then we get to the farm and he fed cows, fed chickens, and rode with my dad for like four hours. And I was just like, this guy's. This guy's got a motor.
A
Was Amanda nervous for you to like be with him all weekend and just. You too?
B
No, I think I would like to think Amanda, trust me. But of course, my dad was like, kyle, where's Amanda? And I was like, one day it was.
A
How would she have handled it? Would she be about it?
B
Amanda is pretty quick to like, she. So anytime we do any type of physical activity, she's hurt every single time. Whether it's like dodgeball, kickball, football. I'm not kidding you, she does have big boobs.
A
Maybe it's her back.
B
Maybe I just mean she like just gets headshots.
A
Hey, no matter what hurt my knee. Yeah, yeah, my joke.
B
I can't see you today. That's probably why I didn't get it. Oh.
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Oh, well, I. I remember. Yeah. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, my bad. Anyway, but she.
B
If we play a sport, it's like football to the. Football to the head, kickball to like the gut. Like every time it happens, it's. And it. I. No offense, Amanda, but it's so funny. Some people aren't sports girls. She's a creative.
A
Yeah.
B
Swimsuit girl, you know.
A
Did I. That's where I need to get my swimsuit from is Amanda. I've been looking for a point of brand.
B
The whole bit is like big boobs though, I think.
A
Okay, well, I'm just going to. I'll just.
B
I would never make that joke. But you've made it to me first.
A
No. 1,000% thousand percent. Well, good for her. Okay, well, hey, that would be a get find. Yeah.
B
Yeah, we could do that a little finer. Get fined. I can't believe we're playing this game and it's. You keep getting fined.
A
We like made it through, baby.
B
Dude, that's so crazy.
A
I just can't wait till off season so that I can rip them and then they can't find me.
B
So you can't be fined in the. In the winter, are they?
A
I'm not getting a paycheck in the winter.
B
But you're still. Aren't you still an employee technically of.
A
The league it's funny because we're in a new cba, so we all. No one's going to be under contract, so I'll either. I'll either get kicked out of the league or. No, just get targeted next year.
B
They know better than that.
A
You never know. Never know.
B
Damn.
A
All right, do we do find a fine?
B
You got fined. So we'll start it off with find and I'll finally speak up and say wnba. Dude, take a second. Take a break. You can't find me. My. My girl Sophie's just trying to like, spread some. Some ball knowledge. Elite ball knower.
A
Duh. The whole nation is singing it. But thanks, Kathy, for the view of the podcast.
B
Man, I can't believe that shout out to you non basketball related fake Justin Bieber look like at a Vegas nightclub. Did you see it? Yes or no?
A
Dude, I think that's fucking hilarious. I think that is. Oh, my God. And how are they. How. How do they not know that's not him?
B
That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say you find the audience for being idiots more than fine. That they look alike and the venue were like, yeah, just give it a shot, dude.
A
But it says that the. The nightclub got tricked too. Do you. Or do you think that they were in on it?
B
Are they the biggest idiots ever? Oh, it's a complex story. Nice. There you go. I'm playing in a flag football game tomorrow for complex, so hopefully wish me good luck on my dude.
A
Good luck. I will pray for your knees.
B
This guy does look like Biebs. He's just like a little thicker.
A
I was just gonna say I think he's a little thicker, though. And I think if you're just a beer fan, you notice that. But I think good for him. I say no. Fine. Good for him, man.
B
Are you a JP guy?
A
I am. I like him.
B
Oh, me too. This new album rocks my world, dude.
A
If he comes out with the concert, we need to go.
B
I would go like Minneapolis. Could you get. Could you get us front row in Indy?
A
Yeah, sure. I feel like you could as he comes to Indy. Probably not.
B
One of my goals. Hopefully next year. Do you think that, like, could I. At a Fever game.
A
Miked up Thousand percent. Thousand percent.
B
Bleacher Report makes those and they're actually super sick. They'll mic up like Eagles players at like a Phillies game or like. Oh, and they. It's like. It's a very good piece of content.
A
Dude. We should do that for a Chiefs game.
B
God, I would.
A
Okay. I wouldn't too make that happen. I love that.
B
You, me and Taylor all right?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Can you go to the restaurant opening now?
A
No, I still have to do rehab.
B
Yeah, you're right.
A
And like, hairdryer and stuff. So, like, I'm gonna be here for a second. Did you see the. The Barbie? Venus Williams.
B
She has a Barbie celebrates Venus Williams.
A
Yeah.
B
That's sick.
A
It's for equal pay. Inspiring.
B
I think we'll both. I mean, we'll both say fine on.
A
That, but yeah, I think that's a good. I think that's good.
B
I like that Barbie's doing sport. I feel like they've been kind of like. Like it's like you're a Barbie girl or like. Or a tomboy kind of vibe.
A
Yeah.
B
When you're growing up. I bet that's cool to see both. I admire both.
A
Yeah. Part of me kind of feels like the Venus Williams should have had a Barbie a long time ago. Yeah. But I'm glad that she has it now. Good for her.
B
No, that's fine.
A
Yeah, both.
B
Both say fine there. What else do we have? Kind of a quiet week you just had. Did you do anything for your birthday? Yeah, I flew to Connecticut sick find and got fined.
A
Yeah, I would. I just never. I kind of dread my birthday nowadays because I'm always traveling somewhere to where I don't want to be traveling to. You know, like, it's like Detroit, Cleveland. Oh, no, that will probably be on next year's trip in the year after. Hopefully they'll celebrate me.
B
Yeah. I'll go as a fake fan and say we still love you.
A
Thanks. Thanks. Another find or get fine. Which I think is freaking hilarious. Are adults are going to sleep away camps to make friends?
B
Sick. So tight.
A
What's tight?
B
Like playing games and being outside.
A
Dude, why are older people are going to camps? To make friends. That just sounds like a freaking. What do you think that sounds like?
B
Did you go any. To any, like, freaky, like, religious camps as a kid?
A
No.
B
Like, okay, well, I did. Do you know what the blob is?
A
No.
B
There is like, oh, so much money in the lake. It was like. It's like Southern Missouri.
A
Oh, no, I didn't go like K Life.
B
I heard a K Life camp that was like the big one that, like I went to. And it's like a horrible place. But they have a lot of money and they have a lot of money and anytime you have jet skis, a blob, tug of war, flag football, like, it's fun and that's still fun. Or kickball. As the world's biggest kickball advocate, I would go to a camp and play that for a weekend.
A
No. Okay. Okay. I think here's my thing is when I first read that, I thought of, like, swingers. Like, my mind went to, like, this is a camp for, like, adults to make friends. What? But, like, if you're. If you're thinking about, like, actually you're going to a camp, like, to go do those things. Absolutely. Like, I think no one really loses the kid in them. But when I read this, I was thinking, like, some weird shit going down.
B
Admire where your head's at. Because I didn't think about that at first, but now I'm kind of like, you would get kickball and maybe sneak into the other camps. Teepee or wherever, whatever. They're sleeping.
A
And a new set of balls.
B
Sexual aspect.
A
Well, living out in Phoenix and Scottsdale, pretty sure I need to rewire my brain to that Midwestern, good, traditional family type feeling.
B
That is the most Arizona sounding shit ever. Dude, you're telling me to play golf and shit happens.
A
Yeah.
B
Do you know what the sign for being a swinger is?
A
An upside down pineapple.
B
Yeah, you are.
A
I do want to know that. My mom and dad did not know that. And they got pineapples for their outdoor patios. And I'm like, do you guys have something to tell us?
B
They got it for them.
A
Yeah, they. They moved. They moved in and, like, it's kind of like a. It's like a fun little backyard now. And they put pineapples as, like, their lights. And I was like, what's going on?
B
Hey, now.
A
Yeah.
B
Did you tell your mom?
A
Yeah. And she goes, oh, God. And I was like, yeah, switch those out asap.
B
So what do we say? I. I'm gonna go with fine because I think it sounds fun. And if you do swing and you have consent, also fine. You get fining you. Yeah.
A
Okay. You know, I like where your head's at. I'll go. I was honestly, I was gonna say get fined, but I like where your head's at. I'll say it's fine.
B
Good. Last thing. Did you see that? I don't know how much you've been, like, on the Internet the last few days, but 2K is allowing WNBA players and NBA players at the same time. Yeah. So it's like. It's like.
A
Well, have you seen the tweet of, like, Caitlyn dunking over LeBron?
B
That's what I was gonna say. It's awesome.
A
It is awesome. But, like, you just know we're gonna get shit on. Like, you know. You know, we're about to just get shit on. Like, it's cool. It's a cool concept and, like, I like it, but I. I just know that it's going to set us back another 20 years. But I get the evil part. But, you know.
B
Yeah. But I. I will say, even though, like, I get what 2K is doing, that's fun.
A
Yeah. No, and I'm actually cool with Ronnie. Ronnie 2K. And I think he, like, where he is taking this brand is going to be fun, amazing, and he's all about us women and, like, supporting us. And so I like where his mind's at, but, like, I. I just don't want to get dunked on. I just know that's going to happen.
B
Take a charge. Take a charge and then you don't.
A
Have to get posterized with a broken knee. Yeah, sounds great.
B
If. Hypothetically speaking. Yeah, you. Let's say 10 seconds on the clock. You have to give the ball to Cece, Sabrina, or Paige. B. Who are you using and why?
A
I. I think it's easy because she's my teammate, but I know I'm going to get eaten alive regardless of the answer I choose. There's no right answer here, so I want everyone to know that. But I'm. I'm going with Cece because she. No one shoots like she shoots. I mean, that's just. That's obvious.
B
Yeah.
A
Who are you going with.
B
If we're down one and I got to get, like, a mid range. Don't you go, Paige?
A
Yeah, mid range. Yeah, but. But you don't. But you. You don't get to pick. You're down one, you have 10 seconds. You know, it's just whatever shot is given to you.
B
I'll go Paige then, just to keep things different. And Montana State plays Oregon next week, so that's why I'm skipping Sabrina. How's that sound?
A
Like that.
B
I will say if you don't have to talk about Sabrina's game too much, but I feel like she. She gives me, like, field general, like, hype man. Like, so laser focused. Like, if you slacked for a single play on the floor, she'd come for your throat. Is that a fair take?
A
I think she is very dialed in. I've never. Honestly, I've never really been in a workout or never been her teammate, so I've only played against her, so I don't really know. But when you're playing against her, that's the type of, like, feel I Get from her.
B
She seem just like on fire always.
A
Yeah, but she's not like, super nice girl. Super nice. Her husband's really nice too. Good people.
B
Is he an Oregon guy?
A
I don't know. I think he played football and he still might be in the NFL, but I feel like they were together. Oregon, right? I don't know.
B
I really wanted to go to this Montana State Oregon game, but I'm going to be in. I'm going to be in the Hamptons. I'm really sad.
A
For filming or just for shits and gigs?
B
Yeah. Doing a little show. Oh, he is a football guy.
A
Nice. Is he still in a film.
B
2015 draft? I doubt it. No, he bounced around a little bit. Bears, Ravens, Dolphins, Titans, Ravens, 49ers, Raiders.
A
Wait, Wes, I know this is a squirrel brain comment, but. Yeah, you know, like on the show when you guys go to, like, people's like, pop up. Like, you went for a DJ thing. We went for Amanda's like, swim. Like, is that. Does the shows make you do that or do they do that regardless? Like, you guys were going to go regardless or do you guys make it.
B
Because you had to have permission to film anything anywhere?
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, you can't just like freestyle pull up to like a random event or like, club. So, like, everything you know they're going to be filming. Yeah. Well, also the venue has to know you're going to be filming too. So, like, you can just show up with like camera people and be like, yo, we're filming your restaurant. Like, because also you have to think about, like, they can't have. They can't even have background music that's like licensed songs.
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, the restaurant has to agree to, like, let the lighting in, like, clear space around, like the table we're at to play.
A
Yeah.
B
The like, cleared music. Like, there's so many things that, like, I. That I probably don't even know that go into it.
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, everything is like, super thought out.
A
So like.
B
And also just people just.
A
You go, don't wanna be on camera. Honestly. But. But I was saying, like, when you sign that contract, like, for us, we have like player appearances. You have to make so many player appearances and do certain things out the public. Is that, like, how it is as a show? It's like, hey, like, yeah, it's during the summer, but you're also gonna have to go to XYZ and it's. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah. I don't know honestly how that works. I think some of it might just be in, like, good practice, you know what I mean? Like, because we've definitely. We. We had the liberty to turn things down.
A
Yeah.
B
But I think we also all want, like, that show to, like, do well. So, like, it's kind of like, for sure. It's just like a. Like a full circle.
A
Like, you want to do it.
B
You want the show to do well. It does well for you. Like, it's. It's good for everybody.
A
Well, and they're your friends, too. Like, you. Do you still want to support and, like, hang? So it all. I just didn't know if it was, like, a required thing of, like, hey, we're gonna make up this event for you guys to go to and whatever. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah, but I mean, usually, like, they want it to be our lot. Like, things are better when they have our arms wrapped around them, you know?
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, like, we played a kickball game last year that I fully was like, let me find contacts for the league that I play kickball in. We'll do it here. I'll get the shirts, like, because that is fun for me.
A
Yeah.
B
And we won.
A
Now, that's. Anyway, that diving catch, I will never forget that.
B
When your season's over and my fall kickball season starts, we'll be hopping on here, and you're gonna have to, like, start the combo with, like, what was the score? How'd you play?
A
I'm like, listen, I can't wait. I can't wait. This is gonna be so exciting for me.
B
You know, I tore my rotator cuff this spring playing kickball. Yeah. Throwing someone out from, like, the outfield.
A
No way. You're talking about Amanda always getting injured, and here you are.
B
Yeah, but mine's because I. I trial too hard, though. But we won the championship.
A
You know what?
B
Fuck it. One sec. Ready for this?
A
Oh, God.
B
This is the only decor I have in my apartment right now. Spring 2025. Yeah. So they give it to you after you win, and then you take it to the bars, and, like, we just dumped, like, champagne, beer in it all night, dude.
A
Fun fact. Not a big champagne girl.
B
I get it. It's fun to pop, I guess.
A
Yeah, you're right.
B
But that's it. Honestly, if you're healthy, God, you probably can't play kickball.
A
Now, I know you can't see me, but this is what I'm looking like right now.
B
What's your hardware?
A
It's a nice. It's a nice ACL kind of looking brace. Even though it's my McLare are you weight bearing? Yeah, I get right now, but I will be regardless. Like, I can walk. I actually, you know what? I tried to kind of right when it happened, I went into the locker room and like, the docs were checking it out and then like the team came in for halftime, they went out and then I went back to shower just to like, so I could be clean and then do rehab or treatment. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I'm not that hurt. And I tried kind of running a little bit and I almost ate in the shower by myself because my knee was just like Blake.
B
So it is so funny with knees how, like, so many people tear ACLs, MCLs, PCL. I did PCL at Rockbridge. But you can like, you can weight bear, walk off the field and then your rehab time is like an ACL is a full year where like, I broke the out of my leg, couldn't walk for four months. But I was back full like after six because they just put metal in you and you're good. Like, knees are just so, so fragile.
A
Well, honestly, I was kind of thinking about, like, how am I? I was thinking about like the beach and yachts and boats and me having a great off season and now this thing. But actually it's only going to take four months. So like, this is a quick, quick little recovery and then I'll be on a boat asap.
B
Do they just scope it out or are you getting like.
A
No, they have to repair it.
B
Oh, fuck.
A
Yeah, but it, but it's very, like very, it's very simple and not very invasive. Like, it's, it's, it's good. You just have to get it fixed.
B
So then not to like, rehash like a horrible day for you. But were you, was your leg locked when she fell in?
A
Yeah. So what happened was like. Yeah, so they, they said that they see these in like football, NFL a lot because your feet are kind of locked to the ground and people come in from the side and so normally, like, my, if, like, my foot would have been up a little bit, maybe my leg would have like, gave in a little bit, but my foot was locked on the ground and when she fell, like, it was just, it was like a textbook MCL tear pretty much. And so but they're like, if you would have gone a couple more inches to the left, you would have torn a whole bunch more shit. So, like, I'm very thankful for, for where I'm at, so it's all good.
B
I love your outlook today. You're very positive you know what?
A
I choose to be. Yeah.
B
Yeah. Damn. Who's. What's your team doctor's name? Should we give them a shout out? Do we love them?
A
You know, Dr. Kendall. Let's give him a quick little shout out and love that he is well rested. But, dude, he's been doing so. He's done already. Two surgeries of our team.
B
Yeah, that guy.
A
I'm our third.
B
Oh, Dr. Kendall. Busy guy this year.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm trying to think.
A
Oh, Lindsay's at 9 centimeters. Pip is coming soon.
B
Who's texting you?
A
Lindsay.
B
Oh, wow.
A
She.
B
On her phone.
A
I know. She is not messing around.
B
Do they. Can you play music in the. In the. Yeah, in the operating room.
A
Yeah. Wait, you never told me, though. Are you everyone, I've gotten, like, no joke, probably around 45 to 48 dms asking if you're actually trying to find love. I mean, like, or if you're just, like, in a fun state.
B
I don't. I don't, like, wake up craving that. Do you know what I mean?
A
Like, yeah, you're in a fun part of your life. Like, you don't need to be.
B
How often do people say, like, oh, you'll know. Like. Like when it happens, like, you'll know. Like, I. I've. I've heard that so many times, and I guess I am, like, just day at a time. I don't know. I just think.
A
I don't.
B
I don't go outside looking for that, you know? Do I sound crazy?
A
No, I just love you. You're just funny as shit to me because you're like, boyfriend say that. Well, everyone. Everyone's. No, but everyone says that. And everyone's like. And the way that you're just like. Like that. I feel like, same boat.
B
But I do picture, like, on a serious note, if I think about my life from, like, a macro lens. Yeah. Like being a dad, like, kids coaching football. Like, that shit sounds awesome. I just. It's not for me tomorrow, you know?
A
No, I feel that, dude. I feel that. I couldn't even imagine.
B
Unlike Indianapolis also, everyone in New York City is, like, single, running around, you know?
A
You know what? What a fun, fun place to be. Yeah. Literally. Maybe I need to come up there during off season for a little bit.
B
Pull up. Yeah, it'd be fun. But, like, I've been to. And, like, probably same for you.
A
Well.
B
Phoenix, I don't know. But, like, I've been to so many weddings over the last five years. Hundreds. One of them was, like, a New York City couple, like, they're all Missouri and Montana.
A
We went to high school with one of them, Right?
B
Well, yeah. Yeah. Are you talking about the one the other weekend? Yeah.
A
No, no, the New York one.
B
Oh, Hannah. Yeah. That wedding was actually. That might have been the perfect wedding.
A
Really? I'm not surprised. I feel like they're, like, the perfect people.
B
It was reception in, like, this beautiful church in, like, the Upper east side. And then they. Or excuse me. Ceremony at the beautiful church. And then they did reception in Central Park. So, like, outside by the water, like, trees, very green, but everyone still keeps their suits on. Nice music. And then they did after party at a basement in, like, a midtown, like, dive bar where everyone was, like, sweaty, had their bow ties off. Like, everyone's wearing sunglasses, like, in the pictures and stuff. It was Shout out to Hannah playing again for that. Another rock Protestant ruin. Just crushing.
A
I will say, though, Sam's. The. What was it called? Is, like, swimming. Like, you guys were all swimming and drinking Aperol spritzes or something?
B
Yeah, that was the day after they called it something.
A
Oh, day after, dude. That Sunday in Spritz or something. I can't remember what it was called, but that looked so fun.
B
Yeah, like a swim in Spritz or something. It was beautiful.
A
Yeah. Swim and Spritz. I'm down first.
B
I had stuck. You really are. What's your dream? Basketball side. If you could live in one city in the United States, where would you want to be?
A
Dude, that's so hard because I'm so much. No, see, that's my thing is I think Miami is not really my speed. I think I would do definitely. Probably somewhere in Florida, but, like, just, like, the beach. But I'm more. What I was gonna say is I'm more of, like, a people person. Like, I want, like, my family and my friends and, like, good people around. You know what I mean? But I also wanna be on a beach with a margarita.
B
Okay. Okay.
A
What would you say? I feel like you're. Yes, definitely hot weather. That's why, like, California, like, their beaches are too cold for me. Like, it's. I can't do it. I have to be. Yeah.
B
East Coast. I. I think for right now in my life, New York City is, like, kind of perfect. But, like, you're thriving. I do miss. I miss Montana a lot, though. That place is.
A
Yeah.
B
In the summer.
A
Oh, dude, it looks. Honestly, I just remember jumping off bridges and stuff.
B
Yeah. So we'd have workouts in the morning. Yeah. No water. We'd have workouts in the morning and they were over. Like we were done at 7:30. So you go home, breakfast, nap, and then we would just all load up in someone's car and like go to a lake and like. Yeah. Like rope swing for five hours then go home.
A
Dude, do you know I. I so, so miss. Oh, God. What am I. Oh, float trips, dude.
B
It's the best. I actually tried explaining float trips to my friends in New York and they like couldn't grasp what it was.
A
What.
B
And I was like, dude, you just tie up a bunch of shit that floats.
A
Yeah.
B
And you float down a river for seven hours and you get hammered.
A
You eat sandwiches, you have chips, and it's like the white trashiest shit you will ever do. And it's so fun.
B
Yeah. We'd go to way before and we'd all get footlongs and then keep the condiments on the side and then put them in a cooler. And then we'd have like a pig.
A
Cause you can't let it get soggy.
B
Dude, I would do anything for one of those again.
A
I know. Oh, Joe and Ryan just went on one and they were telling me about it and I was just like, ugh.
B
Where'd they go?
A
Somewhere in Springfield, I think. They're always doing something, but I love it.
B
Did Ryan. Ryan went to most state, Is that correct?
A
Yep.
B
So he like, is a. He like, knows Springfield super well.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Great floats down there.
B
Yeah. Sophie, before we leave.
A
Yeah.
B
You're already in good spirits, but I do like, I know that me saying happy birthday to you should be enough.
A
It is enough, but it's.
B
It's not going to be today. So I'm sending you a little something on my phone.
A
Oh, guys, what are we doing? Oh, is that my dog?
B
Pop it open.
A
Oh, gosh. Stop it. This is so fun.
B
Yeah.
A
Wait, I got it. Hold on. I'm going to. From Brutus and me. Remember your dog? The one your dad and I have had for three years. Pretty delicious. He's the best. I can't believe my baby is 29 years old. I'm getting old, Mom. Keep smiling. Keep shining your light. Maybe you're doing yard work. Something. I think you've done a pretty good job. I love you so much. I wish I could squeeze you. Have a great day. Mama P about to cry.
B
Happy birthday, baby girl. Can't believe you're turning 29.
A
Very proud of you. Wait, guys. Did you know this is happening day?
B
Keep doing what you're doing. Have fun. Bye bye.
A
No, you say happy Birthday. And Sophie, we love you. So much. And we're so proud of you. Can you both kiss?
B
What's going on?
A
Sophie, happy birthday.
B
I'm really proud of everything you're doing.
A
And you know, I hope something green doesn't count.
B
Fly out of the air in that kitchen.
A
Happy birthday, Sophie.
B
Is the shits around you, mama.
A
You guys are cute. Guess what? Thank you.
B
Not over. Incoming.
A
What is going on? What? Wait. You guys are so nice. I needed this. Wait. This is my team. We love you. We wish you played more birthday than that guy. God bless you, my girl. Yes.
B
We will be a junior.
A
29 married days. You know you beat them tomorrow. So they asked for a video to celebrate you this morning. You know, myself girls doesn't do this. I have enjoyed this entire space with you. Unbelievable teammate. So, so splancing.
B
That will let it go over chilly time. But more important than just you, a.
A
Solo friendship person, I can appreciate your personality throughout the course of my locker room on a team. Her angle is killing me. At the end of the day, I'm rocking with the kids, so more life. Happy birthday. I already said this in person, so it feels like over. They said it again, but I was paid to do the leave.
B
So hope you enjoy your day.
A
What the. You guys, this is so nice. Thank you.
B
That's a good way to end today.
A
Yes. What's your birthday?
B
December 30th. The very end.
A
Dude, I think that we should have a banger for your birthday.
B
I wanted to do it for turning 30 and I was just so tired last year I gave up. Maybe 31 is the year, but a lot happened this week. And despite unfortunate news, Sophie, you had a good birthday. And as we speak and sign off, both of our families are welcoming a baby into this world right now.
A
I love this. I love this.
B
Like, this is recent.
A
That's good, Wes.
B
I know. We'll try to get a picture, but.
A
Yeah, we will.
B
They're the important ones today, so.
A
Facts. Much love to you, Wes. It's our. Our world's colliding yet again.
B
Speedy recovery dog. I mean, I'll see you or obviously good luck in surgery and stuff like that. But if I know it sucks, but chin stays up.
A
That's what we should do. Fill the film a little episode right after surgery.
B
Send me some perks and we'll do it together.
A
This is an I heart podcast.
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham Talks Torn MCL, Caitlin Clark’s Recovery & Summer House Stories with West Wilson
Date: August 20, 2025
This episode features a candid and lighthearted conversation between WNBA player Sophie Cunningham and co-host West Wilson. The main focus is on Sophie’s recent knee injury and recovery, along with broader discussions about adversity in the WNBA, Caitlin Clark’s rehab, locker room dynamics, and behind-the-scenes stories from the reality show "Summer House." The tone oscillates between reflective, comedic, and heartfelt, capturing Sophie’s resilience and the camaraderie between the hosts.
“I’m just thankful to like, be where I’m at and be with the organization and the girls that I’m with because they have brought, like, life and like my love of basketball back." — Sophie ([01:54])
“I think that is so funny because everyone’s like, what a positive thing. But we should have never been there in the first place.” — Sophie ([11:35])
“Speedy recovery, dog… chin stays up.” — West ([50:45])
"I have nothing but love for Bria… she would never try to hurt me." — Sophie ([07:02])
“My girl Sophie’s just trying to like, spread some ball knowledge. Elite ball knower.” — West ([22:44])
“It’s literally a day by day legit type of thing… she could be playing if it wasn’t in the WNBA by now, but at this level… you’ve got to be on top of your game.” — Sophie
"That’s literally bullshit. Like no one’s lying." — Sophie ([14:06])
“When you’re an elite level player, you not being able to play is the hardest part… so, when people say stuff like that, I’m just like, just, just shut up.” ([14:21])
“Kelsey Mitchell… since she’s been in the league, she has been a high level, elite scorer, and she just doesn’t really get the recognition she deserves." — Sophie
“The show’s not even about finding love… there’s not a single stipulation to Summer House. You just show up.” — West ([15:13])
“I’m going with Cece because she… no one shoots like she shoots.” — Sophie
“If we’re down one and I got to get a mid range, don’t you go Paige?” — West
Discussion also covers Sabrina Ionescu’s on-court mentality.
“My foot was locked on the ground and when she fell, it was like a textbook MCL tear pretty much. But they're like, if you had gone a couple more inches, you would have torn a whole bunch more shit. So, like, I'm very thankful." — Sophie
“Dr. Kendall, let’s give him a quick little shout out… he’s already done two surgeries of our team. I’m our third.” — Sophie
"This is so nice. Thank you." — Sophie ([49:52])
The episode is unfiltered, funny, and deeply personal. Sophie’s attitude is resilient—she cracks jokes about her own situation, pokes fun at league fines, and openly credits her teammates and loved ones for keeping her motivated. West matches her energy, weaving between sarcasm, care, and storytelling about sports, life, and reality TV. The dialogue feels like an inside look at how elite athletes process adversity, while giving listeners plenty of light moments and relatable, hometown nostalgia.
This episode is a rollercoaster of emotions: opening with serious news about Sophie’s injury, transitioning to camaraderie, humor, and a behind-the-scenes peek into WNBA and reality TV life, and culminating in a surprise birthday tribute that ties together themes of community, support, and resilience.
"It just makes me thankful to be where I'm at, even though it sucks." — Sophie ([01:54])
For fans of the WNBA, sports culture, or reality TV, the episode is packed with candid insights and heartfelt stories—anchored by a “keep it real” approach that entertains and inspires.