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This is an iHeart podcast.
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Good morning, Sophie Cunningham.
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Good morning, Wes Wilson. It is morning. Oh, my gosh. I have my coffee and everything.
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What's up? Episode three of the Show Me Something podcast. We are doing it in the AM for the first time, and if this goes well, maybe we'll stick to it, maybe we won't, but let's give it a shot.
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I agree. I know it kind of feels good to kind of be up and see your beautiful face. So maybe we should continue for this.
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Starting your day off the best way possible.
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Well, we're going to start this podcast off of you telling us how Italy was. I know that you had a trip from hell, so you got to get into that too. Tell us about it.
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So the trip itself rocked. I just like flying. I. I'm. I tweeted this the other day, but, like, flying right now, I'm shooting like, 30 success rate. Like, whether it's delays or, like, misconnections because of delays sitting on the tarmac, I'm just kind of in the trenches right now. But I will not let that take away from a fun trip, which. This wedding that I was at. Yeah. I want people to know that you were. It was beautiful. You were at the bachelor party for this to set the tone. So it's my boy Sam's wedding, but I, I flew in and met Bush, Clay, Gage, Scott, Thomas, Kyle, Brian, and all those dudes in Florence, Italy. We went out to dinner, like, like, bopped around, and then we went into Tuscany to, like, this venue where there was. There was a pool, wine country. They grew like, like a lot of their food. There were olive tree. Like, it was just. It was beautiful. Weather was good. But a lot of weddings are Saturdays. And then everyone's like, rushing, hung over to get home. Sunday they did Thursday night welcome party, Friday wedding, and then Saturday was like the big pool party, essentially. Like, like, blown out reception on at the pool, and there's like a saxophone guy. It was so tasty. Do you ever think about, are you like, a wedding girl? Like, are you someone who, like, fantasizes it all the time or. No, some people don't. It's not. There's no right or wrong. Are you.
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No. I don't know. No, I don't think that I fantasize. I thought you meant, like, am I. Would I go and, like, do I like to go to weddings? Like, yes.
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Yeah. But your schedule makes it incredibly hard. Like, you're.
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Yeah.
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You're busy in the summer. You're, like, not going to go to A lot of weddings until you're done.
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I know. And, like, because we're pretty much busy from April until, like, mid October, and so you missed so many fun weddings. That's like. That's one of the. Yeah, that's the sucky parts about this job is you miss. You miss a lot, unfortunately.
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When did your sister get married?
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She got married in May, so I actually got to miss, like, a couple days of training camp to go, so.
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Oh, it's nice.
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That was kind of nice. But I also want to hit on, like, this Sam. You guys have been, like, friends for a really long time, and I don't think that, like, people understand that, like, people from where we grab. We cherish those friendships. And I think those friendships are so special to, like, because you get. You get new friends when you kind of get older. But, like, I feel like we have a lot of childhood friends, and that's something that a lot of people don't have.
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No, I do. I don't know if you experienced this. I remember in college, it, like, people made fun of people who are still friends with their high school friends, and I was like, that's the weirdest, like, niche thing to try to, like, tease people for. Yes, they're the best. And, like, my high school friend group is literally, like, 10 dudes, and we are still, like, very close. We do a lot of things together. And, like, yeah, we all just drank in Italy for four days, and it was awesome because they're fun people, you know?
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Well, I. I see the. The tiktoks of, like, the people playing the saxophones at the weddings overseas, and they just like, oh, gosh, it gets me. Like, I just want to be on a yacht drinking frigging champagne with a saxophone.
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People asked about you, obviously, because the broadcast. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, it's all podcast with Sophie, blah, blah, blah. But also Sam's. Both of Sam's parents went to Iowa, so they, like.
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Oh, so Caitlyn.
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Caitlyn. But so they're, like, very locked in with fever happenings. And they were like, this is so cool, because obviously they raised Sam in Colombia, but then love Iowa stuff. So they were, like, super hype. They tried to play cool. I could tell they were, like, stoked.
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I love that. But hold on. I want to get in, because I know that your trip trying to come home was hell. Like, we had to reschedule our pod. We had to do all that, the rescheduling. That's my fault.
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Yeah. I'm, like, starting to now. I'm Like, I assume things will go wrong. And I. It's. I guess maybe I should, like, make my layovers, like, way longer. Like, I gave myself an hour and a half, 90 minutes. Florence to Amsterdam to New York. And we're sitting on. Yeah, that's. You know, and that fight's not even that big. And we're sitting on the Runway, and I'm like, I just know, like, you know when you're just beat up and you. And, like, your luck's down, and you're like, I have no faith that anything's gonna go well. I can just see it in the stewardess's faces that they were just like. Like, not having a good day. And I was like, dude. So they were like, hey, we're all good to go, except it's a little windy outside, so we are not leaving. And I was like. And I'm just watching the time, like, keep going, keep going, keep going. And I was like, dude, we're toast. So then finds out there's no flights later from Amsterdam to New York. So I am now going to be pushed back a full day, which, like, we talked about this a little bit over the phone, but I. It is a dream day to have, like, a layover somewhere. Cool. Go experience it. But when you're trying to get home, there's just something about, like, walking through your front door and getting in your bed that is, like, that safe space that you're, like, really dying to get home to. However.
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Yes.
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If you're stuck somewhere, let's make the most of it. And that's what I did. So. Ubered into Amsterdam, walked around the red light district, took a peek at some of the pretty ladies, and then had a beer by the water. It was beautiful.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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I do think that's cool, though, that you, like, didn't just sit at the airport or sit at the hotel. Like, you took it. Even though it sucks. Like, you're positive about where you were at, and you try to go make a memory.
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Can't let the air, like, big airplane win, you know? Actually, have you noticed with flying now that you guys are, like, strictly chartered? Like, if you. When you guys flew, like, commercial, were you. You were subjected to all the flight, weren't you?
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Yeah, yeah. And, like, with no security, we were sitting next to, like, fans. Like, it was just, like, not that, like, we don't like our fans, but, like.
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Yeah, it's.
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It's different.
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You know, you're sitting duck in an airport.
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Literally. Yeah, literally.
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Oh, I just can't believe yeah, that's wild. Just, they're like, oh, delayed an hour and you guys just have to hang out.
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Well, yeah, and like the. The back to backs is what were crazy because like, yeah, if you did have delays or you had any of that, you still had to like freaking play the next day.
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So you set the tone. Yeah, okay. I. I do feel like now we're recording this on a Wednesday, so it's been a full week since the last dildo and. And I don't even want to give the dildos and the dildo throwers love because I feel like we've moved on. But we like half. I mean, it did hit you, so there's no way to like, not ask you what happened.
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Oh, okay. Well, first of all, I feel like I like brought that onto myself because I tweeted and I was like. I was gonna say it, dude. That tweet got over like 40 million views or like whatever interactions. But like, I was. I was just tweeting it as like joking, but then like a little bit serious, but like, way more joking than anything. And we were playing against la and I was at the free throw line and the girl shot and then I felt like. I felt something like kind of hit my foot and I thought it was just like someone kicked me or whatever. And like I looked down and it was a dildo and it like scared me. I like jumped up. I was like, oh. And everyone's like, why are you freaking out? Because I was like, I wasn't. My mind just wasn't. Yeah, wasn't expecting that. And there's like a clip of like my coach, like, because I went over and started laughing with the LA girls because I was like, there's no way. And then step like, stop it. Get over here. I was like, I've lost all trying to focus.
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But she was yelling at you to like, get your head out of the gutter.
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She was just like, no, she was just like yelling so. Because I guess we had to get back on defense or something, but like the game stopped and so if I literally. My train of thought and my squirrel bray just was like. Cuz I. I was like, who gets hit by a dildo? Me.
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Did it. Did they. Did it like full flight hit you or did it bounce?
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I think it like it was like a bounce hit like a. At the same time and it just scared the out of me. I was like, why are you scared? Oh, it's okay. At least like, again, at least it wasn't like, hit me in the face or anything. Like that, so.
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Well, it's. We've been like, if this was a chalkboard, we would have the, like, days since dildo throne. 8. I think we're at 8. So we won't talk about the dildos anymore, barring something insane because we don't support it.
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We don't. But did you. Did you know there's actually a crypto prank?
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Well, that was.
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You hear about this?
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I didn't. I didn't think that that was what it.
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I think it was confirmed. The very first one. It was. It was a crypto thing and they drew attention to. And they, like, hire this company that, like, does pranks on, I guess, other things, I guess.
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But that's not like a corp. That you can't. That can't be a corporate prank throwing a full rubber thing at women who are working.
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Dude, you would think that. But then, like, no one else knew is crypto. And so then that's when other people just started doing it for, like, fun and shits and gigs. And I'm like, dang. Like, throw a Big Mac. Throw something that, like, is more fun, not a dildo. Soft.
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Also, I have to note again, after episode two, I keep. People keep saying that I talk over you, and I want to apologize. I don't feel like that. I do. But I am actively gonna be a listener today. Okay. I'm working on.
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But I. I also think, like, that's. Our relationship is, like, if we're ever at dinner, getting drinks or whatnot, it's always like, so, yeah, you're fine. I'm not worried about it.
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We'll move on from dildos because we don't want anyone to think that we're giving it more attention than it deserves because, again, we're. We're as a society, we're moving on.
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We have to.
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You also went back to Phoenix? Yeah. A lot happened.
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This game, dude, it did it. Actually. I've had, like, a busy freaking week. But after la, yeah, we flew down to Phoenix, which is super fun because, like, I haven't been back there a minute, and, like, I got such a good suntan. Like, Indiana is lacking sun, and that kind of drives me nuts. But anyway, yeah, right now, play the old team. You know, there was some maybe a little bit of beef because of our last podcast with, like, how I mentioned that some people could handle situations.
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Do you. Do you think that was because of what you said last week?
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Hell, yeah. A thousand percent.
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I saw that and was like, there's no way. They're, like, tussling and, like, roughing each other up. Because Sophie, like, you were still. You're polite for the most. Like, you just said, it could have been handled differently. But I. I was like, oh, they're just like old teammates, kind of rough each other up. And it was like your old team. I was like, there's no way it's because of the podcast. But it sounds like it was. Well, so.
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Well, I do, I do. I think that, like, there's. Our teams don't really like each other anyway just because of, like, I don't know, just kind of like her leaving. Some of those players used to be under our coaching staff, and so there's just, like, a lot there. But, yeah, I could have been way meaner, right? Like, I. I told her, like, she didn't listen to the whole clip. She just saw the thing about, like, she could have handled it more professional. Which, like, honestly, everyone that's talked to me besides their team has, like, yeah, she could have. And so it's like, duh. But this. That team's just drama to me. I don't know. But I. I don't know. I. I went home and I started, like, hitting some threes and, you know, I was talking all shit. Oh, God, it felt so good. I know we lost, but I still got light off.
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Did they play you? Did they give you a little, like, montage? Welcome back. Did you get booed? Do you feel welcomed or.
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No, no, I. I have nothing but love for Phoenix, honestly. And, like, no joke, it's. I'm still like, some of those fans favorite player, which is weird. So, like, my first I. They did an intro video and it was so nice. I got a lot of cheers. And then, like, once I started to get, like, hit a couple threes and kind of got a little chippy, then I started getting some booze. But, like, I'm okay with booze. I think that, like, that's competitive, that's fun. Like, that's what gets, like, me riled up. But I guess some people are just off of that. I don't know.
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We talked about this last time that we, like, booze are kind of endearing. Who has the. In your opinion, I mean, and not. Not counting Fever fans, who are the best fans. Like, most rowdy in the W. New.
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York has some really good fans, but I really do have to give it to Phoenix too. They have some really, like, really wild fans. Yeah. Yeah. Just good crowds, always.
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Oh, so then they are, like, as chippy as you, like, made them out to sound, then if they're oh, yeah. In your top fan.
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But I think that's fun. Like, as a W, we've always. We've always wanted big crowds. We've always wanted that type of platform. So now that we have it, like, let's not shy away from everything sports is about, you know what I mean? Like, I'm. I'm here for it.
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No, the. The Liberty games I've been to, I'm. I'm overly impressed every single time. They are like, yeah, okay. Hot. Take more into it than Nets fans are. I've been to a few Nets games. Boring. I'll say. My chest, it's very, like, corporate and like, people are there to like, drink tequila sodas and like, or be hot. The Liberty fans are like, they care. They boo officials. They're like, super locked. So that's a good call.
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Yeah, dude. I also forgot to mention, when we were in Phoenix, like, so much just happened that was so bad for our team.
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Are you talking about the injuries?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I know, I know.
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Oh, my gosh. Like, it was like from the get go, it was just like, weird. And we had both of our point guards. Our starting point guard left because you broke her foot out of nowhere. Yeah. And then our backup point guard tore her acl. And so I don't know if you realize us, but you're looking at our. Our new PG on the team, our one point guard.
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How's your, like, what's your bag like at the top of the key?
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Oh, you know, very simple.
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Yeah.
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Keep it simple and keep it clean. Do nothing. That is too crazy. For real.
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Do you have a. Like, what's your. If you had, like, do you have a signature move at least? Like, if you had to get, like, create space bringing the ball down.
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Like, what is it? I'm either getting a screen or I'm pushing off of you. I'm either fouling or someone's helping me get open.
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Sick. Okay. At least you know, you. You're a self aware point guard, dude.
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No, for real. Like, this last is like, last two games have been like, bring the ball down by committee. Like, I am. I won right now, but I'm like, if anyone is pressuring me freaking 90ft, like, I'm giving it to the bigs and they're bringing it down. Like, I'm very much. Keep it simple. Get open and I'm throwing you the ball, so you better turn your head.
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So if I played you on your right side and made you go left, would you. Would you be toast or are you like, pretty smooth? With your left, like, the whole way down the floor.
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I think that I've actually, the past week have gotten way more. I think it's more of a. Confident. I know I can dribble with my, like, left hand, but, like, the confidence level, because I just haven't really needed to handle the ball in, like, 10 years. I don't know.
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Yeah.
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And so I'm getting better at it, but I'm. I could still be. Ew.
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Yeah. Yeah. But I could play defense, Sophie. That's what. That's the only thing I can do.
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Probably not.
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I'm gonna get right here.
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I need my right hand. Then I need my right hand. Oh, is this us?
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Oh, my Lord. So good. Well, anyone's watching this that you play in the upcoming week, they're gonna full court press and really test you.
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They've already tried. And I'm telling you, like, if you're pressuring me, I literally give it to our bigs because our bigs are better than other people's bigs with handling the ball. So I keep it simple.
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Love. Not to bring up last night, but another tough one.
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You know, we just started off so slow. Like, I think. I don't know, our energy level was not there. We just didn't really play hard. But we made a huge comeback, and then we lost by one at the end.
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So do you feel like you guys are still trying to figure out, like, what everyone's role is going to be now that. I mean, clearly the injuries kind of, like, create dysfunction, and you got to find puzzle pieces. How long do you. How long do you feel like that takes?
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Well, I feel like against Chicago was our first game without a point guard, and, like, I think everyone was this legit aggressive and, like, on our front foot, and, like, whoever got the ball, they brought the ball down, you know, so it was like everyone was just going and it was flowing. But against this one, I think we kind of overthought it a little bit, and we brought. We did bring in. We signed Odyssey Sims, who's going to be great for us. Like, she's an actual point guard, but, like, that was her first time playing with everyone. And so I just think everyone's, like, kind of rhythm was a little bit off, and we'll be fine, but it takes a little bit. Like, especially when you're playing high level teams, it's. It's. I don't know, you just have to be able to gel and click. And that's the first time we all played together ever. So I don't know.
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Yeah. You. You held Paige to 6. 6 or 19.
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That's good.
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I mean, yeah. I mean, was that the game plan? Obviously, just get her out of the rhythm and then see what else they can do?
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Yeah, kind of. Her and a girl named Maddie, they went off and so those were the ones we had to stop. But like, I love Paige to death. Do not get me wrong. I think like, again, I think she's a hell of a player and like, would love to play with her one day, but those refs were giving her every freaking whistle last night. Like, you literally couldn't touch her. Couldn't touch her. And that, that shit is so annoying to me. Like, and if you're gonna do that, then give it to our guards. Like, I just hate the inconsistency. Blows my mind.
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And you. Do you think that that's like when whistles are player focused, that's like. Yeah, I mean, I think that's a huge problem. But then again, like, I do. I don't know what sport. That doesn't exist. But she's a rookie. She shouldn't get whistles as a rookie. Is that fair to say?
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We know. Yes. Or we know she's a good rookie and like, she's gonna get some whistles. But like, to get the treatment she got last night was crazy. Yeah, crazy.
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Well, I just think like even, I mean not to bring it to football, but like Tom Brady got whistles, but it goes because he earned it and he was like, that was like 10 years into his career. And like Mahomes probably gets a whistle every once in a while now, but those are like, once you have established that you need to be protected. And I guess I. I don't know if it's a league thing or they just. Maybe it was last night, but that's crazy for rookie getting all those calls.
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Well, she's gonna. She's gonna be one of those players that like, she's already gonna be a goat. Like she's gonna be a hall of Famer. Everyone knows that. She's freaking hell of a player. But like getting some of those whistles already. Oh my. I. I couldn't.
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For a buzzer beater to lose by a buzzer beater.
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Yeah.
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Do you feel like that hurts worse than like a 25 point L?
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Honestly?
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Yeah.
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Because you have like hope. Hope of all the way till the very end. You know what I mean? Like, maybe it feels better because it's closer, but it's also a huge dagger, so it doesn't feel good because you Think you're winning this whole time. So. Yeah. Wait, what do you think? Bring back to football?
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Honestly? Yeah, I think. Yeah. And especially some like we used to have games where we would. If we got like super on and it was like not competitive. We wouldn't watch film on Sundays and coaches would be like, we're throwing it out like onto the next week because it was so bad that there's like nothing to even like we're not going to spend a whole day like re watching it and trying to like learn from it. We throw it out. Yeah. So it's a lot easier to kind of like move on. I feel like if it either just think you had a bad day or you just got absolutely outmatched, dude. Yeah, we.
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We'll watch like depending on when our next game is, we'll watch like 45 minutes of that film.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure like. I'm sure like position groups would watch the film, but like as a team, I think football is so like, there's so much symbolism and like trying to like make a statement from like little gestures. And I'm sure that's a head coach being like we're not even going to like talk about this game anymore. Like it's behind us. Like we're moving forward. Like that was gross. Whereas yeah, obviously if you lose like in overtime or last second touchdown, like that hurts because you're right there. But junior year we lost to Weber State and played. Played horribly that we showed up Sunday, didn't watch film, didn't do recovery. They said meet us on the field. This is such a football punishment. But we used to have to do this thing called rolling. We did it in high school, in college where you lay down and you roll. You vlog. Roll your body 100 yards and everyone's throwing up. It's. It's horrible. Hor.
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It's like just how would that be fun? Why? Why. How's that punishment picture rolling on the.
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Ground for a hundred yards. Like you're. This is what your vision looks like.
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Well, I was going to say. And you're. You've probably maybe been drinking after the football game.
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Well, dudes like went out that night before. Cuz usually it's like a. It's like a pool recovery in film. So you can like kind of be.
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Yeah.
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A little banged up for it. But it was. It was the worst day I've ever experienced on planet Earth. And it's. And everyone else is throwing up next to you. So then you're throwing up and just like, it was pretty unreal. That was, like, probably the worst game we played all of college.
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I guess what I'm thinking about when rolling is, like, probably rolling down a hill in like, six.
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No, it's your. It's your.
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To me, that sounds fun, but, like, now. Now I think about. I'm only 28, but just rolling for that long in general. Ow.
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If you guys, like, if you guys, like, play like, or, like, aren't locked in, like, what is punishment? Because you guys are adults now, so you're not, like, it's not like college where they can be like, gassers.
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What is they still do sometimes, like, if you're not. Just depends. Like. Yeah, well, like, the thing is, at the beginning of the season, we were having, like two, two and a half, three hour practices, some of that including film. And all of us are like, we didn't sign up for this. But, yeah, I think it did help us. And now it's definitely cut down a lot. But there's times where, like, we would watch an hour of film, sometimes it'd only be like 15 minutes. But, like, there's been times that we've been in there for, like, 45 minutes to an hour. Just, like, watching our defense, watching our offense execution, like, yeah, they can't really punish us, but, like, at the, like, they still kind of can. Like, in a way of, like, having a hard practice. Like, what are we going to say? No?
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Yeah. Did you see Asia Wilson's little stat line the other night?
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Dude, I did. I think she killed it, right?
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She's the first WNBA player to record a 3020 ever.
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Did she so good? Yeah, she's so good.
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You know, it's fun. I interviewed her at Complex, like, a year and a half ago. Yeah, we had. She was great. She was really fun. She. She had just written a book and we did. We did a game where she, like, reads old tweets and, like, responds to them, which is really funny. And I made up this game called Here There, where I would make people choose between, like, their professional city versus, like, their college, their college town, or, like, the states or whatever. And I'd be like, who has better food? Who has better fans? And then they have to, like, choose. So for her, we, like, Vegas or South Carolina. I think she's from Columbia, South Carolina, somewhere.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But, yeah, that was that. She was great. And so I've, like, gotten to hang out with her a little bit. And she's awesome.
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No, I. I think that she is a hell of a player too, but I think off the court she's just doing so many, like, really cool things.
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Yeah.
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And I, I, I'm sure that that interview went really well. She's good at that type of stuff too.
B
But Vegas is a fun, like an interesting sports city because they have WNBA and well, I guess they have the Raiders now and are gonna have the A's. But for a while they were just hockey in the Aces and they like, love the Aces there.
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Okay, let's talk about this. Are you a fan of Vegas?
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No. I lived there for a year. Did you know that?
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No.
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Yeah. Yeah. So when I started at Bleacher Report it, I helped them launch BR Betting, which is their like, betting vertical. You know how there's like all the, there's like fashion, whatever. Yeah. They were like, hey, our office is gonna be in Caesar's Palace. Could you like, move to Vegas? And I was like, oh my God. And I did it.
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I don't, and I, I don't like Vegas. I'm not, I, I'm not a big, like when people are like, oh, Vegas. I'm like, ash.
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No, not at all. Two days max. Yeah. Weird place. I would like, so I would like, leave work at like, you know, like 10:00pm, whatever. And you know, you just kind of like clock people when you're leaving. You're by yourself, you get, you're listening to music. I'd come back in the morning, like 9am same people, same chairs. Same people, same chairs, hadn't moved.
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Although.
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Oh yeah.
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That's gross. That's actually gross.
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It's like a sad city, dude.
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Every time that I'm there, like, there's just that smell Vegas has and I have to wash everything. You know that it's just like that, that smell.
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Well, it's very like cigarette. It's a very cigarette heavy city. You can like smoke everywhere.
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I know. Yuck.
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I will say though, the people of Las Vegas who like, are from there are. That's why the sports are like doing well, like, well there as far as fan base, because they are like so proud to be from Vegas. And I. Oh yeah. You know, I think everyone should be proud where they're from.
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Facts. And everyone that actually lives in Vegas, but like off the strip and like in the suburbs, everyone says it's awesome, but I just had never experienced that. So I'm like, eh. But everyone loves it.
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I tried it. I just didn't have like a lot of like, I, I thought I was going to move there and like, go out a lot. I stayed in, I cooked I. I was very wholesome during my time there. And then Covid happened and. Oh, we all left.
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See you, bud.
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Later. Okay, remember this? Finer. Yes, finer find.
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This is. This is a new segment that we're gonna start doing, and this is kind of like. We can explain it to you guys. It's like we're gonna go through some scenarios and it's like, is this fine or should they get fine? So this is gonna be fun because.
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One of your co hosts gets fined all the time. That's why we came up with this. The first thing I saw yesterday. Please tell me you saw the ring Ronaldo got his fiance.
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Dude, honestly, not a fan of it.
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It's huge. It looks like this.
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It's like.
B
It looks like this.
A
I'm bright over here, but it's like too big.
B
So, like, there's a million percent chance that it was a zillion dollars. And the rock is obviously like, like found in Atlantis or something. But it looks weird. It looks heavy.
A
But, yeah, like, I'm not good for them. Like, I know they have a lot of money. They seem like really good people, but that is just like, sometimes it's too much. So for me, I would say get fined on that one.
B
Yeah, fine, for sure. And he can afford it. Yeah, it just looks too heavy. And like, I think.
A
Hold on. Did you not know that they. I thought they were already engaged. Like, I feel like they've been together for like a hundred years.
B
I don't think I have a bunch of kids. He's good looking, for sure. Yeah, yeah. So we're finding that I. It just is like, sometimes sleek is like the way to go. But I. Maybe she loves it and it's not up to him. It's whatever she wanted. Maybe she told him, hey, I want a big fat. The fattest rock you can find put in on.
A
Dude, to be honest, I. If someone were to propose to me and had that, I think I would actually say no. I'd be like, do you even know me?
B
Because, like, what if it was Ronaldo? You would say yes, probably. Yeah.
A
So did you see. Do you guys know that Tick tock. That it's like a song and everyone's like, cross legged like this and they're like balancing.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
It's a Nicki Minaj song. Yes, yes. I wanted to try, but I'd probably break all my ankles and cross my legs. But did you see that there was a mom who did it and she broke her freaking spine.
B
I don't want to. I don't want to.
A
What is it taking too far?
B
Well, people were doing it in, like, stilettos.
A
I know.
B
Yeah. That's scary. You're not allowed to do this during season. I'm.
A
I'm not. I should never be allowed to do this in life. Life. There's no way.
B
My toxic trait is. I think I'd be good at it, and I could probably do it.
A
Dude, should we do it next time we're together?
B
Yeah. I will say breaking your spine for a TikTok trend, probably not worth it. I did see somewhere that she had, like, not to, like, follow shame, but she had, like, like 200 followers, so it wasn't like, just like a thing that would for sure go viral. She was just, like, giving it a rip, which. Well, I guess it went viral. Yeah. Give her. I'm gonna give her. I'm gonna say it's fine because how else. She's probably viral now, so. Good call. Minus the medical bills and the absolute horrible pain.
A
Yeah, I'm gonna. And I know accidents happen, so maybe she just got uncoordinated for a second or something. Slipped. But, like, my thing is just, what are we doing? So I'm gonna say get fined.
B
Damn. This is like. This is. As of yesterday, Ohtani's being sued, which. Whatever. Unless he wasn't a part of his. His translator was like. I think his translator was gambling last year and he had to get fired. He's like, sneaky. He, like, sneaky gets into trouble. This guy Ohtani.
A
Well, that's what I was gonna say. If you're. If you're continuing to get in trouble, are you sneaky or are you just trying to break all the rules?
B
These are, like, not baseball related really at all, though, which is weird.
A
I know, but that's what I'm saying. Like, shouldn't you know and I know, I know sometimes it's hard to find, like, really good quality people in every industry, but really the sports industry, especially when you're messing with a hundred million dollars, those types of contracts. But, like, I just feel like. And I'm not saying it's him, but, like, part of me is like, dude, if you're already been, like, flagged for something, reevaluate and make sure the people around you are good. Because, like, you can't continue to keep stacking up these weird bangs. Right?
B
It might be his team, but essentially what happened was some. I guess it was like a property in Hawaii. Just for anyone who, like, isn't aware of this, there's a property in Hawaii and they, like, we're gonna pay him to, like, promote the property, I guess, and they're saying he sabotaged it. And I. I don't know if he's, like, now trying to buy it or what, but basically, like, yeah, they. They wanted him to help sell a property, and he's. He allegedly sabotaged the entire project, like, due to his, like, fame or whatever. I. I don't really know. I'm sure more will come out, but who knows?
A
Yeah. I just feel like as. And I know you know this too, but, like, I just feel like when you are most of that type of money, there's, like, there. Everyone's just trying to do so many loopholes with taxes and trying to save it all, and it's just. That's just weird to me.
B
This is our first time talking about tax evasion on this podcast.
A
Well, I'm tired of getting taxed. Yeah.
B
Ohtani objectively find, because he's literally being definitely fined.
A
Fine. Yes. I got one Tom Brady statue. What do we think?
B
Given how many bad statues there are.
A
Yes.
B
This looks fine. Don't you think so?
A
I think so, too.
B
His head is, like, maybe a little small, but, like, he's. He's wearing shoulder pads, and that's a. That's a nice face to sculpt.
A
Do we think, like, Gazelle? Wish that she could have been there?
B
Do you mean Giselle, you psycho?
A
I just know she's really pretty. Just Gazelle. What did I say?
B
No, you said gazelle, like the deer. Nice.
A
So it's Giselle. Jizzy. I think that's what he's called her. Hey, Jizzy. Jizz. Come here.
B
Jizzy. Honestly, though, I'm sure it's. I'm sure it's happened.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, not to be crazy, I interviewed him two or three months ago, and one of the PR people there texted me, said, congrats on the pod. And I was like, wait, we need.
A
To get Tom Brady on this freaking podcast.
B
I was like, if there's a 2% chance of that happening, I will. I will do anything within my power. So, I mean, it's not like it's in the works, but I, like, that was a text I got from someone who is.
A
We need everyone to tag Tom to get on this podcast. That would be amazing.
B
Yeah. Anyway, so he. I like. Who won the divorce between Tom and. And.
A
What do you think?
B
Giselle. She hunked up quick. She had a new man's, like, right away, but he was just probably. No, he was spotted with Sofia Vergara. Like in Europe or something.
A
You know what? I was recent.
B
Like. Yeah. Honestly, like, either of them, both beautiful, both rich, both successful. Like, they're. They're going to be good. I'm just sad that they had to break up.
A
Well, it's so weird. I didn't think that they were like. I think that when you think that they'd be happy, they painted the. Yeah, they painted the picture that everything was fine. Like, I feel like the divorce was very like out of the blue for me. But I guess I'm really not a part of Tom and Gazelle's world.
B
Sophie. I swear to God, if you call her Gazelle one more time.
A
I think I like it. I think I'm liking the gazelle. She kind of looks like a gazelle.
B
Gazelle is the main singer in the movie Zootopia. Fun fact. And it's played by Shakira.
A
Hold on. Isn't there Zootopia 2 coming out?
B
Yeah, we should imagine. No, I will go with you. I love Zootopia. It's fantastic.
A
Me too. The sloths. The sloths are my favorite part of the dmv.
B
Shout out. Judy Hobbs. There are some iconic statues over time. Kobe outside of Staples. Shaquille outside of Staples.
A
Dudes, Kobe's is awesome. I don't know who did Kobe's, but that person should do everyone's because some of them are really freaking bad.
B
Speaking of Ronaldo from earlier, he has like the most famous, worst like bust ever. It's scary. Asia has.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Jordan's got good.
A
Yeah.
B
Dwayne Wades was the one that was a kind of recent that people clowned for. Yeah, yeah, that one's tough. But like, if you have a statue.
A
Like, dude, I. I had a bobblehead in college and that thing was the ugliest I've ever seen in my life. Like, have you seen Water Boy? Yeah, have you seen Water Boy? I. Of course. I literally have the face, you know, the. The white guy who's cross eyed. Oh, and Water boy.
B
My God.
A
That's what I look like.
B
I'm looking at it.
A
That's literally what I look like. And it has like a ponytail. Like, it is bad. And it's still like, people are still trying to get under. The bobbleheads are resurfacing.
B
And I'm just like, oh, how can I get one?
A
Dude? I. I know. Mom has so many.
B
It's right here.
A
Yeah, but. No, I know, but it literally, like, do you see how I look? Like, it's the water Boy. The. That one guy.
B
At least you're. They did your shorts, right? I used to always clock how in college you like, tucked your shorts.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I wanted shorter shorts. I wanted to be more girly.
B
No, I know. I, I already knew what you were doing. Damn. I'm gonna find one of these.
A
I'll just get you one for Christmas. So I just love our, all of our new segments because I just feel like we have so much to talk about and we're just doing so much that it's good that we have our squirrel brains kind of lock in a little bit. So our next new segment that we're going to have weekly is called Westworld. Oh, am I the only one excited? Oh, there we go. There we go.
B
No, I get. Yeah.
A
Okay. Anyway, and so this is just kind of a segment of like something or some things that you want to get off your chest, like what's going on in, in your world.
B
I feel like I yapped a lot today.
A
This is good. I love when you're yappy.
B
Two things. No, I already talked, I already talked about how flying is impossible and I would like people to just send me good juju for like a non up flight in the near future would be great. Um, but other than that. Hate to say it, Sophie, and not to, you know, make another sport, give another sport in the spotlight, but football is like, it's here. And I'm gonna try not to talk about it every podcast, but I probably will. Yesterday, Mahomes, yeah, interview with Kay Adams said, and this is, sometimes it's just talk, but he said he thinks, yeah, the Chiefs have the potential to be the best team they ever had under the Mahomes era, which, I mean, it's just him being nice, but I, I, I'm kind of in. And I thought after two Super Bowls and then that Eagles loss was like, so, so yucky. I think this every year going to football season, I'm like, I gotta like, you know, we're Chiefs, we've, we've done a lot, we've experienced a lot. Like, let's go slow. And then the second training camp hits and those interviews start circulating, I'm like so dialed, dude.
A
So many people love to bring up that last super bowl. And I'm like, that was the shittiest game that I've ever seen in football. And everyone knows it, but everyone just like loves rubbing it in my face. I'm like, dude, you, like the past three years and like this upcoming year, like, I just, I need it back in my system so I can Continue to talk shit.
B
Yeah, yeah. I'm not a. I'm not like, a talker because I like to just, like, be like, no, I'm good. I'm chilling. We're fine. And then winning Super Bowls, which, ironically, you brought that into this guy. You're the more of a country listener than me, but hell yeah. Zach. Zach Brian. I don't know if that's your boy or not. Vows to never play a show in Kansas City amid online beat. Amid online beef with Chiefs fans, which maybe he's.
A
I like Zach Brian, but, like, what. What are you doing? What do you mean? He went on the Chiefs that much?
B
I. I think he might be a Eagles fan, which sucks. Eagles fans.
A
Well, we don't want him in Kansas City anyway. But you know who we do want in Kansas City? We'll take a. More Morgan Wallen, a Riley Green. Like, let's go to their concerts and take them to a Chiefs game.
B
I don't know if I know who Riley Greene is, do I?
A
Dude, he's, like, one of the hottest country singers right now.
B
Also, if Zach, like, can we not sick swifties on people who, like, rip the Chiefs, even if he's like. I feel like there's, like, a little overlap. Like, Taylor does country music. She needs.
A
Yeah.
B
Used to be able to eat this. Eat this guy. A hub.
A
Wait, what? So. So he just randomly, like, went in on the Chiefs? Like, there's no rhyme or reason behind it.
B
Okay. He tweeted, making it my lifelong goal to taunt Chief fans. He said that on August 11th. Okay. And he also said something about the refs, which I'm like, that's the most tired. I talked about this on NFL Network. The ref shit is the most tired, lame guy you could ever say. You watch the Chiefs a lot on tv and calls go both ways, but you can't. You can't stomach the fact that the Chiefs are good, so you blame the refs. You guys are all sick in the head.
A
I also think they get tired of us. Of us winning. And so people love to hate on that. So it's like, all right, but just like, hop on that. Like, hop on. And another thing is people think we're bandwagoners, Wes. We've been going to Chiefs games since we were out of the womb. Like, this is our time to finally shine.
B
I actually find it a little sad that now when you tell people you're a Chiefs fan, they're like, oh, like cousin Mahomes. And I'm like, al, punch you in the face.
A
Dude, hey, but shout out to Mahomes. Not mad that he's our quarterback.
B
Wait, okay. He also tweeted, eagles greater than sign Chiefs. Kanye greater than signed Taylor. Who's with me? That was in. That was it in 2024.
A
All right, so this just shows where this man's mind's at.
B
All you have to do to piss off Chiefs fans is play a fair game of football.
A
Whoa. All right. Someone sounds salty. Someone peed in his Cheerios.
B
Where is he from?
A
Probably Philly.
B
Probably. Yeah. Pennsylvania. Oh. He was born in Japan. That's cool.
A
Wait, what?
B
It says he was born in Japan, but, I mean, he's not yet. He was born there, grew up in Oklahoma.
A
It's kind of weird.
B
Eagles fan.
A
All right, that doesn't make any sense, but moving on.
B
But anyways, this is just like, a little. Yeah. Camp starts now, and things will be fun. They're opening up. Patrick and Travis's restaurant opens up in Kansas City in a few weeks.
A
I know. I might have gotten an invite. Wait, I.
B
Me too. You can't go, though.
A
I know. Can you?
B
Yeah.
A
No. Wes, are you. You're going?
B
I think so. I'm, like, wondering, do you think you know who would be there?
A
I don't know, because it's like a. I think it's like a three day. Three days of. You can pick what day you want to go. Right.
B
Which. Yeah, speaking of podcasts, she's, like, on their podcast tonight, dude.
A
Yeah. And. But she dropped a new album, too. Like, oh, yeah. Do we think they're gonna get engaged?
B
Dude, if he's got her on her on his pod. Like, I don't. She. She keeps it pretty chill. Like, they both keep it really chill, but, like, it would only seem like we're past the window where you could be like, oh, it's a PR stunt. Like, I definitely don't think it's that. Like, I think they.
A
I think they actually like each other.
B
Yeah. And she's, like, talking to Jason back and forth on the pocket. Like, it feels like a family affair. Like, pretty locked in.
A
I was. I was more. I. Yeah. I think everyone knows it's locked in, but I'm saying, like, do you think those are the type of people that still want to get married in. In that type of stuff? Are they, like, too famous?
B
Don't you feel like they're like, he's from Ohio, she's from Pennsylvania. Like, I. I feel like they both would appreciate a wedding. Yeah. And she can make a whole album about her wedding day. I'm sure. The big question is this. Is Travis seem like the type of dude to like, like, make it happen, like, fast, you know? I don't know.
A
I don't know either. I don't know.
B
I would root for it. I'm past the point of like. Like, they seem to really like each other. He got her on a podcast. That feels, like, cool for her.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, that would be dope.
A
Yeah, that is cool.
B
We'll. We'll see if we can both get invites that. Anyways.
A
To the wedding.
B
Yeah. So silly. All right. Yeah. These go by so fast. I'm always like, let's. Let's chill. Let's have some fun. And then it just is.
A
I know.
B
And we gotta go start our day. Did you like morning better than evening?
A
I did. I think the morning is good. It starts me off on it on a good note, you know, it gets me out of bed. And I was talking smack on Indiana Sun. Well, now it's coming out.
B
Yeah, look at it. Okay. Indiana Sun. Damn. You're always. Wait, we'll end with this. Caitlin saying, can. Can swimsuit brands, like, stop sending you guys swimsuits?
A
Oh, my God.
B
So funny. She.
A
I'm going to kill her.
B
Good.
A
I'm going to kill her. I just know it.
B
What did she say?
A
She. She was like, nobody come at swimsuit brands. Tell them to get back to basketball or, like, like, practice your shot or something. And I was like, dude, you are ruining me and Lexi's deals. And I was like, we're the ones who've actually been playing and we need a little break. And that's when we go to the pool. And I think only, like, five companies reached out, but if she would have said anything, I was like, dude, you don't have to be a hater. I'll get you, like, a one piece that, like, only shows your eyes. And, like, she did something and has this big bruise on her leg. And I was like, you're finally getting color.
B
Like, she said swimsuit brands. Please comment. Focus on basketball. That shit is funny. That is funny.
A
She stays trolling. She stays trolling me and Lexi.
B
I love her for that. Well, if those two brands are watching this, please comment on the video. Focus on basketball so Sophie can lock in. Thanks for watching. Peace.
A
This is an Iheart podcast.
Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode: Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham & Wes Wilson on Mercury BAD BLOOD, Paige Bueckers, Fever injuries & Nicki Minaj
Release Date: August 13, 2025
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham & Wes Wilson
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Description: The Herd with Colin Cowherd takes listeners on a thought-provoking and opinionated journey through the top sports stories of the day.
[00:35 - 04:24]
The episode kicks off with Sophie Cunningham and Wes Wilson discussing Wes's recent trip to Florence, Italy, for his friend Sam's wedding. Wes shares his mixed experiences with air travel, expressing frustration over delays and misconnections but remains positive about the wedding festivities.
Wes Wilson [00:49]: "Flying right now, I'm shooting like a 30 success rate... but I will not let that take away from a fun trip."
Sophie adds her admiration for the picturesque wedding setting in Tuscany, highlighting the beautiful venue with pools, wine country, and olive trees.
Sophie Cunningham [02:25]: "There's no right or wrong. Are you [a wedding person]? No, I don't think that I fantasize."
The conversation delves into the value of long-term friendships, with both hosts emphasizing the importance of childhood friends and how these relationships are cherished more than newer connections formed in adulthood.
[04:39 - 07:22]
Wes recounts the challenges he faced while returning from Italy, including tight layovers and unexpected flight delays in Amsterdam that pushed his return by a full day. Despite the setbacks, he made the most of his extended layover by exploring Amsterdam's Red Light District and enjoying a beer by the water.
Wes Wilson [04:51]: "I just know, like, walking through your front door and getting in your bed that is, like, that safe space that you're really dying to get home to."
Sophie commends Wes for his ability to stay positive and turn a frustrating situation into memorable experiences.
Sophie Cunningham [06:30]: "You took it. Even though it sucks... you try to go make a memory."
The discussion shifts to their experiences with flying as public figures, contrasting their current chartered flights with previous commercial experiences that involved sitting next to fans and enduring longer delays.
[07:31 - 11:00]
The hosts address a recent viral incident where Sophie was accidentally hit by a dildo during a basketball game against LA. Sophie explains how the joke escalated online, leading to over 40 million interactions on her tweet about the mishap.
Sophie Cunningham [07:57]: "I feel like I brought that onto myself because I tweeted and I was like... that tweet got over like 40 million views."
They discuss the humorous yet embarrassing nature of the incident, with Wes teasing Sophie about it and the hosts agreeing to minimize future discussions to avoid overstating the event.
Wes Wilson [09:46]: "We're at 8 [days since incident]. So we won't talk about the dildos anymore, barring something insane because we don't support it."
[11:17 - 20:46]
Sophie updates listeners on her team's performance, highlighting significant injuries that have impacted their gameplay. She mentions the departure of their starting point guard due to a broken foot and the subsequent ACL injury of their backup, leaving them with only one point guard.
Sophie Cunningham [15:11]: "Our starting point guard left because you broke her foot out of nowhere. And then our backup point guard tore her ACL."
The conversation moves to their strategy on the court, emphasizing simplicity and teamwork in handling the ball, especially under pressure.
Sophie Cunningham [16:18]: "Keep it simple and keep it clean. Do nothing. That is too crazy, for real."
They also touch upon the performance of WNBA player Paige Bueckers, whom Sophie notably limited to 6 or 19 points in a recent game, discussing the challenges referees posed to her play.
Sophie Cunningham [19:07]: "She and a girl named Maddie, they went off and so those were the ones we had to stop."
[32:08 - 34:15]
The hosts discuss recent news about Shohei Ohtani being fined for allegedly sabotaging a property promotion in Hawaii. They speculate on the implications of such actions, especially for high-profile athletes managing large contracts and the importance of surrounding oneself with trustworthy individuals.
Sophie Cunningham [33:14]: "If you're already been flagged for something, reevaluate and make sure the people around you are good."
They debate the nature of corporate pranks, contrasting traditional corporate behaviors with the unexpected antics of athletes like Ohtani.
[34:15 - 37:08]
The conversation shifts to the high-profile divorce of Tom Brady and Gisele Bündchen. Wes offers his thoughts on the swift nature of their separation, while Sophie expresses surprise and sadness, highlighting the unexpected nature of their split despite their public image of happiness.
Wes Wilson [36:10]: "She had a new man's right away... like in Europe or something."
They discuss the public’s fascination with celebrity divorces and the challenges both parties face in maintaining privacy and dignity amidst intense media scrutiny.
[28:31 - 39:53]
Introducing new segments, Sophie and Wes engage in playful banter about judging scenarios on whether certain actions should be fined, such as Ronaldo's elaborate engagement ring, which they humorously critique for its size and extravagance.
Wes Wilson [29:31]: "It looks like this. It's like too big... Looks heavy."
They also discuss viral TikTok trends, highlighting the dangers and consequences of attempting dangerous stunts for social media fame.
Sophie Cunningham [30:17]: "Someone broke her freaking spine."
The segment "Westworld" is teased as a weekly feature where hosts share personal anecdotes and current events they wish to discuss further.
[47:57 - 49:13]
In a humorous exchange, Sophie and Wes address Caitlin’s plea for swimsuit brands to focus more on basketball. They joke about the impact of such endorsements on their personal and professional lives, emphasizing the tension between athletic performance and commercial endorsements.
Sophie Cunningham [48:09]: "I'm going to kill her... we're the ones who've actually been playing and we need a little break."
The episode concludes with playful remarks urging swimsuit brands to support basketball players and focusing on their athletic commitments.
Balancing Personal Life and Professional Demands: Both hosts navigate the challenges of maintaining personal relationships and enjoying life amidst the demanding schedules of professional sports careers.
Handling Public Incidents with Humor: Sophie’s unexpected encounter with a dildo during a game became a viral sensation, showcasing their ability to address embarrassing moments with humor while managing public perception.
Team Resilience Amidst Injuries: Sophie highlights the importance of adaptability and teamwork in the face of significant team injuries, emphasizing a strategy of simplicity and trust in teammates.
Celebrity Influence and Accountability: Discussions around Ohtani’s fine and Tom Brady’s divorce reflect on the responsibilities of high-profile athletes beyond the field, particularly in managing personal actions and public image.
Engaging Podcast Content: Introducing new segments like "Finer" and "Westworld" indicates the hosts' commitment to diversifying content and maintaining listener engagement through interactive and relatable topics.
Wes Wilson on Maintaining Positivity:
"Can't let the air, the big airplane win, you know?" [06:40]
Sophie Cunningham on Team Strategy:
"Keep it simple and keep it clean. Do nothing." [16:18]
Wes Wilson on Viral Incidents:
"We won't talk about the dildos anymore, barring something insane because we don't support it." [09:46]
Sophie Cunningham on Handling Pressure:
"If you're pressuring me, I literally give it to our bigs because our bigs are better than other people's bigs with handling the ball." [17:42]
This episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd offers a blend of personal anecdotes, professional sports insights, and lighthearted segments, providing listeners with an engaging and comprehensive overview of recent events and ongoing narratives within the sports world.