Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham & West Wilson: Unhinged first dates, Summer House tea, Tom Brady rumors

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Episode: Sophie Cunningham & West Wilson: Unhinged first dates, Summer House tea, Tom Brady rumors
Date: January 17, 2026
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham, West Wilson
Episode Number: 29

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Overview

This episode of the "Show Me Something" segment on The Herd is a lively, freewheeling conversation between WNBA player Sophie Cunningham and media personality West Wilson. The pair discuss everything from weather complaints, cold sores, the drama of football stadium debates, and memories from All-Star weekend, to the pitfalls of first-date restaurant choices, bagel rankings, and reality TV rumors—sprinkling in pop culture and personal updates all the while.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Weather Rants, Climate Adjustments & Coffee Preferences

[03:37–07:17]

• Sophie shares her struggle with cold weather, despite criticism for what others consider “mild” (e.g., 45ºF in Houston feels harsh after years in Arizona).
  • “I promise you, even Joe… he knows all those types of weather things. It’s like 65, 70 degrees in Arizona. And even he said… it’s chilly.” – Sophie, [05:16]
• West pokes fun at Sophie’s cold-weather complaints and New York’s icy winds.
• Both agree temperatures feel different by region, with Sophie recalling Missouri winters and West defending Montana’s “dry cold.”
• The conversation tumbles into personal preferences:
  • West is staunchly #TeamIcedCoffee year-round.
  • “I’ve never in my life, unless it was an accident, ordered hot coffee.” – West, [04:07]
  • Both bash hot drinks for being impractical and time-consuming.

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2. Chiefs Stadium Controversy: Open Air vs. Dome

[07:17–12:40]

• Sophie brings up the new Chiefs stadium and its possible move to a dome.
• West is fired up: outdoor football is sacred and weather is part of the sport.
  • “Football is so lame outdoors. It’s so whack.” – West, [07:45]
  • “Building a dome… makes me want to throw up.” – West, [10:00]
• Sophie agrees, highlighting how weather gives teams home-field advantage, which domes could eliminate.
• Connections to fan experiences and nostalgia, plus lamenting the shift towards money over atmosphere.
  • Sophie: “So many people are not renewing their tickets.” [10:55]
  • Logistics concern: West’s dad will have a longer, more frustrating drive, possibly ending family traditions.

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3. Sophie Cunningham Classic: High School Basketball Highlights

[12:40–19:27]

• Sophie recaps her namesake high school tournament, calling one game the best (men’s or women’s) she’s ever seen.
  • “I probably watched the best high school basketball game, men or women, that I’ve ever seen... The gym was packed. It was so cool.” – Sophie, [15:50]
• Raves about the lively atmosphere, national diversity of teams, and off-the-court amenities like Blues Hog BBQ.
• Post-tournament Columbia nightlife: when students are away, everything is shut down, but she still found ways to have fun.
• Sophie talks about working out in Indiana and feeling exhausted, reflecting on the relentless life of a pro athlete.

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4. Health Kicks & Sober January (Well, Sort Of)

[19:27–21:39]

• West and Sophie discuss the pros and cons of not drinking.
  • West: “It’s nice to know you don’t need to drink…It’s easier to do everything else that’s healthy when you wake up fresh.” [20:05]
  • Sophie: “I haven’t been drinking lately and I feel so good. Like, I’m waking up earlier...” [20:47]
• Both notice improved sleep, productivity, and energy.
• West mentions plans for a personal “liver reset”—avoiding alcohol through end of January, but dodging the “Dry January” label.

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5. Life & Social Updates: "Summer House" Reality TV

[32:01–35:24]

• West previews the debut of the new season of "Summer House," sharing that the first episode watch party sold out instantly.
• He appreciates the show’s “organic” setup—friends genuinely spending time together, which feels less forced than other reality formats.
  • “It’s just so, it’s so organic… I’m very thankful to be on a show that is as like organic and natural of a reality show as you could ever do.” [33:15]
• Sophie contemplates making a cameo during her league break (“the WNBA would be so mad”), fantasizes about a crossover, and imagines the travel hurdles of reaching the Hamptons.

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6. Pop Culture Tea: Tom Brady, Alex Earle, & New Year’s Gossip

[35:24–36:00]

• West and Sophie dish on rumors about Alex Earle and Tom Brady at New Year’s, hinting at flirtatious behavior but leaving the “tea” unresolved.
  • “She was like rubbing his back and stuff.” – West, [35:40]
  • “Kudos to both, dude. I’m not dissing it, I just want to know the tea.” – Sophie, [35:43]

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7. Arby’s Hot Girl of the Week

[36:00–39:56]

• West’s pick: His mother, Dr. Elizabeth Wilson, honored for being on the cover of Boone Health Magazine.
  • “Restoring vitality… that is my hot girl of the week, doctor mom.” – West, [36:47]
• Sophie’s pick: Becca Tilley, social media personality and former Bachelor contestant.
  • Sophie admires Becca’s fun, positive energy and surprising basketball skills, having bonded with her online.
• Banter about Becca’s engagement, hooping on Instagram, and swapping Adidas gear.

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8. Pop Culture Rapid-Fire: First Date Disasters, Restaurant Lists & Food Debates

[41:10–52:24]

• The group reviews a viral survey of places women “refuse” to go on first dates—ranging from chains like Chili’s to Waffle House, coffee shops, and bars.
  • “Buffalo Wild Wings… great place for a first date. Great staff.” – West, [41:53]
  • Both Sophie and West push back, finding the list unrealistic and questioning what is acceptable anymore.
• The conversation winds from the awkwardness of bowling to the challenges of Connecticut’s dining scene, with West defending his historic choice of Chili’s as a first date spot.
• Appetizers Debate: Tom Colicchio (Top Chef) claims “appetizers are not meant to be shared”; Sophie and West wholly disagree, celebrating shared plates and the rise of family-style dining.
  • “I don’t believe that. I think appetizers are for the table.” – Sophie, [49:46]

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9. Bagel Rankings & Food Challenges

[51:02–54:04]

• In honor of National Bagel Day, a top-five U.S. bagel list is dissected: plain, asiago, everything, six cheese, and cheddar jalapeno.
  • Both adore cheese bagels and argue for the importance of cream cheese as the perfect spread.
• Joey Chestnut, world eating champion, slides into Sophie’s DMs after she drunkenly confesses he was her “childhood hero.” Chestnut roots for the Fever in Indiana and they riff on competitive eating.

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10. NBA & WNBA Officiating and Ref Rants

[54:48–58:23]

• Jalen Brown’s $35,000 fine for criticizing NBA officiating kicks off a deeper rant on referee inconsistency and lack of investment.
  • “Refs are at an all-time low… The inconsistency is crazy.” – Sophie, [54:59]
  • Both argue for leagues paying refs more to improve quality, noting the uniquely high financial standards for NFL officiating.
• Sophie’s larger criticism: social media, NIL, and the transfer portal are eroding what’s good about youth sports—parents and young players are entitled, and the purity and discipline of sport is declining.

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11. College Football Playoff Predictions

[61:10–64:29]

• Hard Rock Bet segment: Miami vs. Indiana, with Indiana as the favorite.
• West and Sophie agree Indiana looks unbeatable.
  • “Indiana has been d-pantsing elite football programs and not blinked. Alabama pulled their pants down. Oregon, they pulled their pants down.” – West, [61:10]
  • Both pick Indiana to win.
  • Side note: West fondly recalls wild college bar nights at Kilroy’s in Bloomington.
    • “Everyone deserves a good college town weekend.” – West, [63:48]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Football is so lame outdoors. It’s so whack… To think that this team now is going to be a dome team makes me want to throw up.” – West, [07:45–10:00]
• “Every time I go into different climates, my lips get so dry. And for some reason, I always get a cold sore.” – Sophie, [13:53]
• “Appetizers are for the table!” – Sophie, [49:46]
• “I probably watched the best high school basketball game, men or women, that I’ve ever seen.” – Sophie, [15:50]
• “I don't like that. Plain is the golden standard of, like, if a bagel's good, it’s good plain.” – West, [52:00]
• “Refs are at an all-time low. The inconsistency is crazy.” – Sophie, [54:59]
• “It is taking away the purity... Go learn how to be the ultimate competitor, to be a great teammate, to have discipline... You're five years old. I hate it.” – Sophie, [58:24]
• “Indiana has been d-pantsing elite football programs and not blinked.” – West, [61:10]
• On not drinking: “It’s nice to know you don’t need to drink…You feel good, it’s easier to do everything else that’s healthy when you wake up fresh.” – West, [20:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Weather complaints, coffee & cold talk: [03:37–07:17]
• Chiefs stadium/dome debate: [07:17–12:40]
• Sophie Cunningham Classic highlights: [12:40–19:27]
• Sober January & healthy living: [19:27–21:39], [31:05–31:42]
• Reality TV/Summer House tea: [32:01–35:24]
• Alex Earle & Tom Brady rumors: [35:24–36:00]
• Hot Girl of the Week segment: [36:00–39:56]
• First date restaurant discourse: [41:10–44:49]
• Appetizer sharing debate: [49:34–50:43]
• Bagel rankings & food challenge: [51:02–54:04]
• Joey Chestnut DMs: [53:16–54:04]
• Referee and officiating rants: [54:48–58:23]
• College football playoff picks: [61:10–64:29]

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Episode Tone & Style

Candid, irreverent, and full of playful banter. The hosts mix sports analysis, pop culture, and personal anecdotes, always with an informal, “friend group hanging out” energy.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a strong blend of Midwest sports nostalgia, reality TV insights, and real-life friendship banter. There’s plenty for sports fans and pop culture aficionados to love, with quick detours into culinary preferences, childhood heroes, life updates, and healthy living.

Transcript

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[Sophie]

Look at how my toothpaste got on me today, dude.

[Kev]

Okay, that's two in a row. You have a lip herpe and you have come ish looking residue all over your hoodie and you're making all these excuses. It's toothpaste. It's chapstick. You're a little freak. What are you doing in Houston? So come On. Look at this white stuff on my shirt, my lips. All right.

[Sophie]

I realized that sounds so bad, but I promise you, when I went to go spit out my toothpaste, this dipped in the water and then it was like going like that.

[Kev]

You know, these high school girls were so excited to hear you talk about the Sophie Cunningham classic and, like, how well they did. And you're just like, look at me.

[Sophie]

Okay, okay, okay. I. I get my life together. We're back.

[Kev]

What's up? What's up, love bugs? It's me and Sophie and we are back. This is episode 29. Ooh. Shout out to 29 episode of the Show Me Something podcast brought to you by the wonderful men, women, children, high level, low level, part time, full time employees at Arby's.

[Sophie]

What? Is it not, like, so cold in New York?

[Kev]

You know those days when you're like, it's not that bad, and then you turn a corner and the wind, the wind is like, jokes on you, you fucking idiot. Yeah, that happened to me this morning when I went to go get coffee. I was like, I was like, honestly, it's going to chill out. And then the wind fudgeing took care of me.

[Sophie]

So you're an iced coffee guy. Regardless of the season, I can't drink hot stuff.

[Kev]

You've met me. I just get sweaty. Like, it's not fun.

[Sophie]

Even if you're cold outside.

[Kev]

I've never in my life, unless it was an accident, ordered hot coffee.

[Sophie]

What about hot chocolate?

[Kev]

No, thanks. I don't hot drinks. Hot drinks take so long. Like, you order it and then you can't drink it for 20 minutes. Seriously, like, if someone makes me like tea or something, I'm like, thanks. But like, like, I'll see in 20 minutes when I can finally drink it. I think it's so such a waste of time.

[Sophie]

That is actually hilarious. That's.

[Kev]

I've got. I. I was talking with my brother about this over Christmas and he was like, but it's nice because, like, you can hold it in your hands and it warms you up. Whatever. Like, cool. Congrats. Like, it doesn't, it doesn't do much.

[Sophie]

I prefer iced coffee, but I think when I'm cold, like a good, A good hot coffee.

[Kev]

What city are you in?

[Sophie]

Currently I'm in Houston.

[Kev]

Is it cold in Houston?

[Sophie]

Yeah, it's like 45 degrees.

[Kev]

Dude, Sophie, you've been in Arizona too long, dog.

[Sophie]

Do you want to hear something?

[Kev]

I. Canadian right now is probably just laughing.

[Sophie]

Probably. But like, I'm not the only one. I Was just back home in Missouri, went up to Indiana to work out for. For a little bit. Then I came down here, and someone was just out in Arizona, and I was literally trying to explain this to them. And you guys are going to think I'm crazy, but I promise you, even Joe, you know him, he's like, yeah, yeah, he. He knows all those types of weather things. It's like, 65, 70 degrees in Arizona. And even he said, he's like, but it's chilly. I was like, I'm trying to tell people, like, you need sweats, a sweatshirt, and a jacket because it is chilly out in Arizona. I know that it says 65, 70, but I'm telling you, it's a. It's a chilly version. So, like, 45 degrees. No, thank you. It started snowing yesterday in my workout in Indiana, and I was like, all right, it's time to leave.

[Kev]

But get it. Everyone needs one snow a year.

[Sophie]

No, but this.

[Kev]

Running away from the snow.

[Sophie]

No, no, no. I'm not running away from the snow. Because if I want snow, I want it to be, like, snow. Like, white.

[Kev]

Yeah, No, I agree.

[Sophie]

Like, flurries that were just, like, annoying. But, like, it really did kind of warm my heart because I was inside. But once I had to, like, walk, I was like, all right, f this.

[Kev]

But if it was cold out, wouldn't you rather it be cold and snowy than just fudgeing cold for no reason?

[Sophie]

Well, yeah. Yeah. But then I'm like, I don't even.

[Kev]

Need to be here to counter that point. There were days in Montana where it would. It would be 35, and it was. You could wear a T shirt because there's no humidity and the sun took care of a lot of, like, whatever you're feeling. And I do agree with you that, like, temperatures in different parts of the country hit way, way, way different.

[Sophie]

Well, I will say in Missouri, though, remember, like, in high school, like, even in college, like, it was legit 30 degrees, and people would be in shorts and, like, a sweatshi. Like, it's just different.

[Kev]

But I felt like. I feel like, cold in Missouri. Like, the same temperature in Missouri hits way worse than in Montana because we have that, like, wet cold in the winter, and it makes your fingers hurt and your face hurts and your nose.

[Sophie]

Hurts, and you're just like, well, good thing that the. The Chiefs are building an indoor stadium where now you don't have to worry about it.

[Kev]

I will. I will tell. I will do. I'll do it again. I don't even think I talked about this that much last time. But football should be played inside. The fact that they're moving inside. To me, I talked about how they shouldn't leave Arrowhead, but building a dome. What the. I just wies.

[Sophie]

Wiesies.

[Kev]

Football is so lame outdoors. It's so whack. I, I, I keep seeing all these. Everything on Twitter and Instagram and TikTok and, And you see, like, slow motion. And Andy Reid's. Andy Reid's mustache has icicles and Mahomes is breathing. And you see the breath and everyone's in their coats and everyone's hugging and there's weather. To think that we would play a playoff game and a team's gonna come in and get a warm. A warm, cozy arrowhead when they're visit.

[Sophie]

Like, you lose your advantage, dude.

[Kev]

And people, People get louder. They're active. You, you get drunker when it's cold on purpose. You're louder, you're more active. You stand up like the. Well, maybe we'll dedicate a whole podcast to me just doing this. And I'm sorry, we're only. We're five minutes in and I'm. And Sophie. Sophie knew that this would happen, but why she triggered me.

[Sophie]

I love it.

[Kev]

Football should never be Name. Okay, Football, it's kind of getting corporate, like the NFL. Name a cool college environment that people really rave about that's inside. Fucking none of them. Not a single one.

[Sophie]

Or any college football teams.

[Kev]

Syracuse, actually, the Big side Conference has like three. The who? The conference at Montana State.

[Sophie]

My bad. I didn't hear you.

[Kev]

Idaho plays in a dome. Syracuse plays in a dome. No one. In Colorado. No one. I'm trying to think of the North Dakota. All the North. All the Dakota schools except South Dakota do like, North Dakota State's in a dome, but nothing. Like, it's just so whack to me. It's so whack.

[Sophie]

I just think, like, I'm not even just saying this. Yeah. I think that, like, that is part of the sport that you choose. You know what I mean? Like, you know that.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Like, I think. Who was it? Like North Carolina and Duke or someone played on basketball on a ship one year and they're like, all right, that was cool. But, like, that will never happen again. That's how football is. Like, I get it. But, like, you totally lose your competitive advantage. Like, down in the south is fucking hot. People, like, from the north, they struggle with that and then vice versa when they go up and play in snow. Like, that is the advantage. And I don't get why people are trying to take that away.

[Kev]

It's because of money. Like, it's all money. And I watched. I watched this stuff the other day, and it was. Obviously, it was Clark Hunt, and then, like, there's guy named Mark Donovan who, like, is a big part of, like, the franchise, but basically they're like, this is, like, for the fans. It's the fans experience. And I'm like, just shut the fuck up and say that. Like, you're going to make more money and you have to pay less to do the shit in Kansas. Like, quit saying that. This benefits us. No one wants to play inside. It's so lame, dude. I'm so lame. And the Chiefs are also not some, like, little pansy team that has no history. They're new. You move them into a dome, no one cares. They are, like, so historically involved with the NFL and, like, they're just such a staple that to think that this team now is going to be a dome team makes me want to fucking throw up. And I don't want to talk about this whole podcast. I'm sorry, but, like, holy shit.

[Sophie]

Well, I heard the amount of people in the Midwest who are fans of the Chiefs, I'm not kidding. And I'm sure that they'll be fine because, like, it is still the Chiefs, but so many people are not renewing their tickets.

[Kev]

My dad probably won't. It's. I, like, I don't think my dad's going to one you. It's just, like, not Arrowhead. Yeah, that sucks to. That's kind of like six years from now. I think that'll, like. I don't want to say anything. Knock on wood. But, like, the Mahomes era will sort of be. He won't be retired in six years, but it won't be what it is right now. It's kind of like, that will be, I think, a big, like, turning chapters, you know?

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

And then two. At least for anyone on the Missouri side. Like my dad, it adds 45 minutes to his drive there and back. And, like, I don't think my. I don't know, my dad's gonna be, like, 60 then. I don't think my dad wants to add an extra hour and a half to every Sunday. No, I know, but I just don't think he, like, is like, oh, this is cool. Let me just drive another extra. No, I know, but add an hour to my day.

[Sophie]

How, Bruce?

[Kev]

56 or 7 or something.

[Sophie]

Oh.

[Kevin]

Oh.

[Sophie]

I was like, damn, Bruce.

[Kev]

No, no, he's in his 50s. But by. But like, by that time.

[Sophie]

Yeah, no, I. I got what you mean.

[Kev]

And imagine like, Arrowhead's convenient if you're on the Missouri side because it's on the east side. You don't have to get. Go through downtown. Whatever.

[Sophie]

Yep.

[Kev]

So now he would. He would have to go drive through downtown on a game day, which I doubt's going to be fun, and then all the way to this new place in wherever the fuck. And then do it all the way home.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Downtowns in general. And any type of event is just horrible. So that just sucks. I'm so glad that I ruffled your feathers. Fuck yeah.

[Kev]

I'm awake now. Sorry, guys. Anyways, this will happen like 100 more times. We've got six years to keep talking about this. Sophie. The Sophie Cunningham classic. Looks lovely. Dude, Are you tired or did it fill you with. With energy?

[Sophie]

No, it was. It was kind of. Actually this year it was a lot more energy than not because we just had great people running it. But I did. I'm telling you, I use someone's chapstick and I got a herpe. I have herpes.

[Kev]

I couldn't. I couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. And then it just. Now it's so there.

[Sophie]

F. So don't kiss me.

[Kev]

I will. I will say, don't blame it on someone's chapstick. It's okay.

[Sophie]

I don't care. I don't care. But you don't know something funny? I'm not kidding. Like, I think the mixture of, like, the change in. I'm so up in everyone's screen if they're watching this.

[Kev]

Yeah. For a listening audience. Sophie is two inches from the camera, just about to pop a. A leper right on us.

[Sophie]

No. So what it. What it is. Every time I go into different climates, my lips get so dry. And for some reason, I always get a cold sore.

[Kev]

That sucks. I'm sorry.

[Sophie]

Yeah. But I also, like, drink after a bunch of people and use a bunch of people's chapstick.

[Kev]

Huh.

[Sophie]

I didn't miss anybody. Say what?

[Kev]

Does it hurt? Does it hurt?

[Sophie]

No.

[Kev]

Well, sometimes it hurts. Sometimes they kind of like.

[Sophie]

Yeah, sometimes they hurt. Do you have herpes too?

[Kev]

No. What? I. Right before BravoCon, I. Mouth taped. Like the week before your mouth tape when you sleep.

[Sophie]

No, dude.

[Kev]

And. And I. And I ripped the off in the morning and it pulled all the skin off my lip right here.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

And I was like, ow, fuck. And then it obviously scabbed.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

And I was like, mother. But all the girls I Said just aquaphor. Aquaphor. Aquaphor.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

And it'll. And you'll. It'll go in like 48 hours.

[Sophie]

It's fine. But listen to this. So real quick, look at how my toothpaste got on me today, dude.

[Kev]

Okay, that's two in a row. You have a lip herpes, and you have come Ish looking residue all over your hoodie, and you're making all these excuses. It's toothpaste. It's chapstick. You're a little freak. What are you doing in Houston? Surf. Come on. Look at this white stuff on my shirt. My lips, all mute.

[Sophie]

I realize that sounds so bad, but I promise you, when I went to go spit out my toothpaste, this dipped in the water, and then it was, like, going like that.

[Kev]

You know, these high school girls were so excited to hear you talk about the Sophie Cunningham Classic and, like, how well they did, and you're just like, okay, okay, okay.

[Sophie]

I. I get my life together. Okay, so the class.

[Kev]

Does a school win? Is there a winner? No, it's just like a. It's like.

[Sophie]

Okay, so what it is, It's. It's literally 32 games, and it's. It counts to, like, everyone's record. But we had so many people. We had a team from New York come up, and they were really, really good. They're like, fourth in the nation. But we had, like. I probably watched the best high school basketball game, men or women, that I've ever seen. And I'm not just saying that. So many people say this gym was packed. It was so cool. It was like, incarnate words. Yeah. This New York team.

[Kev]

But carnate words always been so really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sophie]

But it really was. It was so much fun. And the girls, like, the. The sweatshirts, the. The. Everything off the court was just so elite this year. And, like, it really was peaceful. The gym was packed. The food was good. Oh, speaking of that, have you ever heard of Blue Hog barbecue?

[Kev]

No. Is it. Is it Columbia?

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Oh, I wonder if my dad knows. Let me see.

[Sophie]

He'd have to. This is what it looks like. They gave me, like, this.

[Kev]

Oh, dude. Blues Hog. Yes.

[Sophie]

What did I say? I said Blue Hog.

[Kev]

It's a Blue Hog.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Blues Hog.

[Kev]

Yeah. Yeah. That's, like, my brother's favorite barbecue. They said it at Buckingham's over by Rockbridge. Yeah, they used to have their. Their barbecue, like, on that, like, rack where you could just go grab your.

[Sophie]

Own, like, so good. They. They, like, brought food for everyone and they Gave me, like, this huge thing, like, massive. Just full of, like, meat sticks.

[Kev]

Oh, yeah.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I've eaten this whole thing. Oh, my God, it's so good. But overall, the Classic was a total hit. It was. It was just like, the best year yet. And it was so fun. And I had, like, all my agents and stuff, and, like, people from Arby's were there, people from, like, Pepsi. And, like, all these people were there. And I. You know, people are from New York, people are from Vegas, Philly, Louisiana, Virginia. And they all came to Columbia to, like, you know.

[Kev]

That's sick.

[Sophie]

They.

[Kev]

Hell, yeah. Way to put on dog.

[Sophie]

Yeah. But a couple people went to Booches. But what I. What I think is so funny is, like, the class, like, school's on session or anything. And so after Friday and Saturday, we tried to just, like, find places to go. Everything is completely dead. And so we went to the roof one night, and then I took them to Taphouse. And Taphouse was solid. Like, it was just very chill. Cool. Typical.

[Kev]

You can, like. I mean, downtown Columbia, you could still bop and, like, back and forth, but, like, it depends what your objective is, I guess.

[Sophie]

No, not. Not the past weekend. It was horrible.

[Kev]

Just because kids aren't in school.

[Sophie]

Yeah, it was bad. That's okay. Yeah, but. But it was fun. It was good. Yeah.

[Kev]

That's what makes Columbia great, though, is that it is a college town. And would you. Would you. Would you ever bump it? Like, the classic forward a little so that it happens while students are there, and then Columbia is, like, a little bit more juicy.

[Sophie]

For sure. I think, like, we always pick the day, depending on my schedule. And now doing Project B, like, I have to. I don't even know my schedule yet, so I'm sure it will, like, vary. But of course, like, it. I think it'd be more fun for people just to, like, see the environment of Columbia when. When Mizzou is in session. Because it really is so fun. Yeah. But we'll totally see. And then I went from there up to Indiana, worked out for three days, and, like, I'm on. I think I'm. I think I'm about to die, actually. I think my throat was bleeding. Oh, I think I'm really going through it.

[Kev]

Yeah. Yeah. Dude, chill out for a sec, because the Chiefs aren't in this. I'm not flying home for Chiefs games. This is. I always. I always keep January fucking blank so that I can go home for Chiefs games. Obviously not doing that now. I just. I told Kev before you got on, this is the Most I've rested in two years, probably. I haven't drank in eight days. I am, like, eating clean. I've. I'm working out. Like, I'm sleeping eight hours. Like, not to, like, rub it in your face, but I just. This is good.

[Sophie]

Wait, now can we talk about that real quick? Do. Do you kind of like not drinking?

[Kev]

Yeah. You feel good? Like, you feel like you're. It's nice to know you don't need to drink. Well, you know.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Yeah. But I also, like, I'm not like, a fucking wiener when I do drink anyways, Like, I can. It doesn't like, affect my. Like, I wake up, I'm not a pussy, and then I go handle business. But I do think I'm someone who, like. Like, I. I'm easier all in, all out. So, like, for me, because I'm not drinking right now, and then I'm also, like, eating healthier. I'm like, I feel. I feel bad if I don't work out. Like, yeah, it's easier to, like, do everything else that's healthy when you wake up fresh and, like, you have the whole day. You know what I'm saying?

[Sophie]

No, a thousand percent. Because that's how I feel. Because, like. And really, like, when you go out and drink and stuff, like, it. Like, you're having fun, it's a good time with your friends, but, like, the next day, you do feel like, depending on what your workout and shit is. But I haven't been drinking lately, and I feel so good. Like, I'm waking up earlier. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to bed earlier or. No, that's not true, but I am waking up earlier, and it feels.

[Kev]

I mean, you. Do you objectively sleep better when you don't have alcohol in your system? I remember my mom told me this. It was like, you think that like a night. Like a nightcap, and you go home and sleep hard because you were drinking, but your body doesn't actually, like, heal itself the way that it normally would when it's filtering booze out of, like, your whole body. I was going to ask you how the Fever Girls are, but guess what popped up on my Instagram? Because we're Instagram friends.

[Sophie]

Who?

[Kev]

Oh, Lexi. Hole engaged.

[Kevin]

Let's go.

[Sophie]

Lexi.

[Kev]

Nice.

[Sophie]

She got engaged, like, a year ago.

[Kev]

Why did it. Why did it just hit my. Why did it just hit my. My ig.

[Sophie]

Were you stalking her?

[Kev]

No. Wait, guys.

[Sophie]

What?

[Kev]

Who got engaged?

[Sophie]

Lexi got engaged, like, before season of last year. Like a month or two before season.

[Kev]

Oh, dude, it's her. It's her fiance's. It's her. It was her birthday. His birthday. That's so embarrassing. Oh, my God. I wanted to bring. I wanted to bring, like, fever energy to the pod one day, and I.

[Sophie]

Just blew it there. Well, dude, there is. There is like, no, you dumbass. I was like, I did not know where you're going with that, but normally, you know, like, when you stalk people and stuff, then you see more and more of them.

[Kev]

Yeah, maybe. I was like, no, it was a birthday post for her man's. And I. The second picture is like an engagement picture. And I was like, oh, my God, Engaged. That's awesome.

[Sophie]

Yeah, me and Sidney Coulson were the only ones there this past week because.

[Kev]

Everyone'S doing unrivaled that and, like, our.

[Sophie]

CBA is so dumb right now that, like, it's heading towards lockout, so.

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[Sophie]

Where did Bo Nicks at?

[Kev]

He ain't too far behind.

[Sophie]

He did all this talking.

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[Sophie]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Kev]

In what conversation?

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[Kev]

No, like, just nothing.

[Sophie]

Honestly, nothing. We get like, weekly emails from the, like the, the PA side of things, and it's just like, it's just so dumb. Yeah, dumb, dumb, dumb. Okay. But I will be up there next week for some stuff. And so I think. Oh, yeah, Yeah, I think that would be really fun to hang out. We need to do, like, more than just our little pod.

[Kev]

Kev, what day is our live shoot? I got to put it in my picture. Calendar 20th. You know how I say organized. So Kelly told me. Yeah, it's really cute. I, I, I put a, a calendar into Photoshop.

[Sophie]

Let me see.

[Kev]

ADD and I just add pictures. I don't know how to, like, show you from here.

[Sophie]

Do you have it on your phone?

[Kev]

Wait, yeah, I'll, I'll just send like, this. And like, if you're in town, I'm just going to put a picture of your face. All right. You can't share this because some of these things are like, I'm not. But I'm texting you these as we speak.

[Sophie]

What do you mean you can't share this?

[Kev]

Well, I mean, like, some stuff is like, you know, whatever.

[Sophie]

Oh, I thought I didn't know what we were talking about.

[Kev]

So, like, this is what I do. I just put picture and then like, I just remember. Yeah, I just remember when there's like, pictures in A cat, like in a visual calendar. And then I know what's going on.

[Sophie]

So that's how your brain works. That's good.

[Kev]

Yeah. Like a birthday. My friend's. I put my friend's picture on the 24th.

[Sophie]

I actually really like that. But how do you do that?

[Kevin]

Just.

[Kev]

You just go to Google and you find like the logo of whatever you're doing that day and then I just put it in the date.

[Sophie]

Oh, I'm excited for some of your stuff.

[Kev]

Yeah. I don't know what's like, what I'm like allowed to say and not say, but. Well, I want to be the Super Bowl.

[Sophie]

Are. Are you.

[Kev]

I think.

[Sophie]

I think that I might go the fourth and fifth. Okay. But I also am going to NBA.

[Kev]

All Star and that's in LA this year. Yeah.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Are you doing all star stuff?

[Kev]

I would. It would be for complex if I went. I don't think like I have anything like me specifically related. I. It would maybe be like a word thing. I went to the office on Tuesday.

[Sophie]

What office? The NBA?

[Kev]

No, complex. I went to work.

[Sophie]

Oh, really?

[Kev]

Yeah. Isn't that nice?

[Sophie]

Yeah. Wait, can we talk about real quick? No. So three years ago, NBA All Star was in Indiana and we have. Yeah. We might have talked about this in like one of our other episodes. I'm not for sure, but I was there for like doing broadcasting stuff for E. And then Wes was there for Complex. Right?

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

And we.

[Kev]

That was the coldest day I've ever been, ever.

[Sophie]

So first of all, everyone is in Indiana. It was not. It was supposed to be like kind of nice. And all of a sudden it just snowed like a foot. Like it was insane. And it was so, so cold. No one had clothes. It was icy. It was. It was. The traffic was horrible. But Wes was there and you know you get to interview the All Stars, right? So like the east side came in, the west side came in before they all compete. When I. And I got on west shoulders to get like players attentions to ask them a question and there was. I think it was Damian Lillard. He. He just had a really long answer. Something.

[Kev]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude. You also couldn't get that. You were like, sorry. And I was like, Sophie, I was like, get this fucking question off. So die. That's so funny though.

[Sophie]

So we were all dressed in like sweats and hoodies and you know, west sweats anyway. But I'm petite and I got on his shoulders and I looked down and I couldn't get dame. And I looked down and west is on a, like, full on sweat shaking, his face is red, and he's like, get a question. And so like, I was like, damian. And so then I got it and then like, Wes let me down immediately. And he goes, I think I just set my new pr.

[Kev]

It was awesome to like set the scene. So you, like, for work, we usually get like, I had a. I actually had a Damian Lillard interview like an hour after that. But for scrums are like, it's when all these players sit in and then it's just media like talking over each other to answer questions. And it's kind of like, it's just kind of weird and like, you don't want to, like, interrupt other people and be annoying. It's just like a weird place to be. So I was like, I think like, Sophie's around here. And like, we know like, Sophie was playing for the Mercury then, and we were like, honestly, let's just try something. So I put Sophie on my shoulders to like, just be like this cute blonde who was like 9ft tall just in the middle of all these reporters and ask everyone questions. And I think it was like, who would win a three point contest or something. But we made a little video out of it and it was. It was pretty cute.

[Sophie]

But. But.

[Kev]

But I was dying.

[Sophie]

Dying. Like, I'm telling you, like, legs were shaking. He was as red as, like the little logo on his hat right there. Like, it was funny as.

[Kev]

Yeah, that was good. That was good.

[Sophie]

Wait, what's going on in your world? Like, are you, like, what are you doing chilling?

[Kev]

Like, I literally, like, January is. I am. I am, like, so thankful.

[Sophie]

Good.

[Kev]

I. I've literally gone to bed. I've slept for eight hours the last week.

[Sophie]

Dude, what a way to start the new year.

[Kev]

No. Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing a little liver reset and I'm gonna get healthy. I might even get abs before February. Like, the. The world is. Is mine.

[Sophie]

What's. What's a liver reset?

[Kev]

Like, not, like, because I'm not drinking. I'm just going to let it, like, heal itself fully. Like, I'm not even doing, like, sips of anything.

[Sophie]

You're going to need more than eight.

[Kev]

Days getting the full spa treatment. I'm going to go till the end of the month.

[Sophie]

You're doing.

[Kev]

I don't know. See, I don't say dry January, so pick me. And annoying. And I would never say that.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Kev]

And I also drank in Nashville for the Montana state championship, but because my schedule is bleak.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

I am like, I can kind of hibernate and, and, and just chill and it's, it's beautiful.

[Sophie]

Wait, so while you're doing this, are you like having friends come over and still hanging out? Are you like literally just being a little lonesome wolf?

[Kev]

It's easier to like not go out in my opinion.

[Sophie]

In the Bravo world, is there like anything like fun coming up?

[Kev]

There's a watch party for our first episode, which you know what's crazy, Sophie?

[Sophie]

What?

[Kev]

We are just over two weeks away or just under three weeks away.

[Sophie]

Dude, I'm so excited for this. Seriously. No, like, I just want to know. I just want to know and start watching it.

[Kev]

Yeah, just you just one week at a time. There's a lot of episodes, but I think they're doing a watch party a week, a full week before. And I think a few of us go and like, when is it? January 27th. It sold out in like three minutes. I'm going, Jesse's going. So that's a full week before it's ticketed again. It's sold out. It's like I'm not even promoing it because it's already full, but I guess people get to see the first episode before it comes out and first episodes, I don't even feel like you can get real drama out of a first episode, you know, because it's so many. Like you're like meeting people and it's. Everyone is on like. Yeah, actually, who am I kidding? There was. I was drama the first one last time because my hug got stiff armed and I was. And it was awkward.

[Sophie]

Yeah, yeah, but, but that's what I'm saying. But I don't know, it doesn't even have to be drama, but it does like kind of leave you like. Okay, what's act like what's gonna happen? Who's gonna like do what? Like.

[Kev]

Yeah, you get a feel for like dynamic and like just vibes and like everyone's in the house. So it's a great start. I like our show so much better than other shows because it's just so, it's so organic to me that like it's not all these forced things. It's truly summer. Everyone goes to a house for the weekend. Fucking hangs around. Like everyone does that anyways. Yeah, it just is. I'm very thankful to be on a show that is as like organic and natural of a reality show as you could ever do.

[Sophie]

Wait, what I was going to tell you is when do you film? Like when do you start?

[Kev]

Like in like, like on the calendar year? July 4th weekend to whichever one of the holidays is the ending of summer. Labor Day or Labor Day.

[Sophie]

When is that? Is that in September?

[Kev]

It's like the end of August, I think so it's like eight weeks.

[Sophie]

Okay, listen to this. Because this year if we have a league, we have a two week break because of like Euro cup or whatever. And I was like, what if I can those weekends and.

[Kevin]

Wait, do you mean.

[Kev]

Do you mean the. Do you mean the World Cup?

[Sophie]

No, Euro. Euro Cup. It's like, it's like. I don't even know what it is. It's like some worlds for Euro League, whatever. So like all the Europeans in our league, they go. And normally you continue to play, but this year they like, I guess we're taking a break. It's like Olympic break, but for the Euroleague.

[Kev]

Huh?

[Sophie]

But I have like two weeks off and I was like, how fun if that is finally my time to come meet all your castmates.

[Kev]

Could you imagine the WNBA would be so mad at you? But you can do whatever you want, right?

[Sophie]

What's new? Nothing.

[Kev]

Just fine for going on a TV show without their approval, but that would be fun. It's just like. It's also our. The Hamptons is like a. To get to.

[Sophie]

Really.

[Kev]

I mean, I. I'd make sure you like had it under control. But you like, you fly to New York and then you either take a train or a car like way the out there. And then they're not an airport house. If you have like big, big bread, I'm sure you could fly out there. But I don't. I don't know anyone who does it. It's like seaplanes and like, I don't.

[Sophie]

I don't know why this. That thought. I don't know. Because she was up there, I guess. Or you were with her last year. But what did you see? Like Alex Earl and Tom Brady.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

What happened?

[Kev]

I mean, I don't know what happened, but I like, she was like rubbing his back and stuff.

[Sophie]

Do we think something happened?

[Kev]

Kudos to both, dude.

[Sophie]

I'm not dissing it. I just want to know. The tea. It looked like a fun time. I didn't really do anything for this New Year's, but I saw other people do it and it looked fun.

[Kev]

I was chilling with Paula, so I was.

[Sophie]

Oh yeah, goofy.

[Kev]

Is it. Is it Arby's hot girl of the week time?

[Sophie]

I think so. Do you have one on your mind?

[Kev]

I have one.

[Sophie]

Go for it.

[Kev]

It's very. Are you sure?

[Sophie]

Yeah. Girl or boy? Oops.

[Kev]

It's okay.

[Sophie]

Sorry.

[Kev]

I'm not mad, guys. My freaking hot girl of the week is my sweet mother, Dr. Elizabeth Wilson, for being on the COVID of Boone Health magazine. Pick up your copies. Probably around Columbia, Missouri. I can't get it to focus, but look at cute little. Like, she got her cute little scrubs on her doctor outfit.

[Sophie]

She is cute.

[Kev]

It says, restoring vitality. Elizabeth Wilson, MD, OB GYN explains hormone replacement therapy and how it's restoring cellular function and improving quality of life for women. And they gave her a little cover shoot. And so that is. My hot girl of the week is doctor. Doctor Mom.

[Sophie]

Dude, I like that. That's actually fantastic.

[Kev]

You gotta get it. Maybe I should. Maybe I'll get her to sign one. Send it.

[Sophie]

Yes, you should.

[Kev]

Oh, my God.

[Sophie]

That'd be awesome.

[Kev]

Also the. The caption below.

[Kevin]

Yeah, call her photo dude, please.

[Kev]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Sophie]

Relax. And so is she.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Kev]

Cold sores.

[Kevin]

Cold sores. White stains. Okay.

[Sophie]

Okay, guys, it really is toothpaste.

[Kev]

Also, page eight is why won't the weight come off? If anyone is curious about page eight, so there's that. Mom is page 16.

[Sophie]

Send page eight to Kevin.

[Kev]

So shout out mama. That's hot girl of the week. Arby's Hot girl of the week.

[Kevin]

Let's go.

[Sophie]

I love that. Okay, so mine is very random, but I think it's awesome. So I become more social media friends with her than, like, anything, but I want to hang out with her. Becca Tilly.

[Kev]

Okay.

[Sophie]

Do you know who that is? Look her up. No, but look her up.

[Kev]

Was she on the Bachelor?

[Sophie]

Yeah, I think so.

[Kev]

Okay. Okay. Hot girl of the week, Becca. What's up, Becca?

[Sophie]

So she's just, like, so cute and just, like, so fun, and she travels around with her. I think they're her fiance now because they're not married yet, but she.

[Kev]

She married to a woman. She engaged to a woman. Uhhuh.

[Sophie]

But. But what? What?

[Kev]

No, I just. I. All the pictures were, like, originally with this bachelor guy, and then I started seeing a bunch of her with one specific lady, and so. That makes sense.

[Sophie]

Yeah. She's so, so cute. And I just feel like she's, like, a funny vibe and there. I don't know. But I'm giving her hot girl of the week only because I was, like, going through her store or whatever, and she, like, doesn't even look like it, but I think she's a Hooper. She was, like, playing up, and she was, like, hitting threes, driving to the rim, and I was like, dude, that needs to be, like, known a little bit. More.

[Kev]

She proposed in Japan.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Rocks.

[Sophie]

Well, because that's where her. That's where her fiance, I think, has family there and is from. Maybe. Okay, but they're. Yeah, but they're just, like, always traveling and I. I don't know. She just seems like a really nice human, and so I'm gonna give it to her.

[Kev]

That's cute. Have you guys exchanged, like, what are you guys just, like, Harding each other's Instagram stories?

[Sophie]

No, she. She so, like, on her story right now. Go to her. Her Instagram story. Yeah, you guys can see it. Like, look up.

[Kev]

Oh, she is hooping.

[Sophie]

Yeah. I was like. I was like. What? I was like, you're. I know.

[Kev]

I think she's. I think she's a lefty.

[Sophie]

It looks like it. And so then I was like, girl, what? And I was like, I knew you were Hooper. And she goes, oh, my gosh. Like, help me. What shoes do I need? So I'm going to send her some Adidas basketball shoes.

[Kev]

Can you send me some after? Becca, you get them first. But I still need a pair. I will throw out all my basketball shoes if I can just.

[Sophie]

Sure.

[Kev]

A pair from you.

[Sophie]

Okay, cool. Send me your size.

[Kev]

That is an unexpected hot girl of the week, but it rocks.

[Sophie]

Yeah, no, I know, but I just wanted to. Shut up.

[Kev]

Shut up, Becca.

[Sophie]

Okay, everybody, Arby's just pulled up with something so serious, and they definitely understood the assignment.

[Kev]

For real, this new meat and three box is putting in work for 7.99.

[Sophie]

Okay, so this is how it goes. You pick your sandwich, so you either get a classic roast beef or crispy chicken, but both are solid choices and there is no wrong answers here.

[Kev]

And then it's like, oh, you thought we were done? No. Mozzarella sticks, curly fries, and a peach cobbler roll. It's elite.

[Sophie]

I'm being so serious right now. That peach cobbler roll, quietly carrying the whole box. Absolutely the star of the show.

[Kev]

Plus, you get a drink. They're calling this the meat in three, but math wise, you're leaving with five things.

[Sophie]

Five items for 7.99. And this isn't one of those meals where you're hungry again in an hour. This actually fills you up.

[Kev]

Or you can share some of these classic Arby's favorites. Stuff you can't get anywhere else.

[Sophie]

So whether it's lunch, a post workout grab, or you just want food that.

[Kev]

Really hits the meat in three boxes. Got you covered. Sick. Kev. Pop culture, fucking feed us, dog.

[Kevin]

So, dudes, I got headlines. Shout out complex for this first one, they did a survey list of places women refused to go on our first date. So somewhat controversial.

[Kev]

Oh, it's like actually.

[Kevin]

A little survey here. So some familiar names on here. Cheesecake Factory, Chili's. I'm not gonna lie. My first date was Chili's Olive Garden. This is a. Kevin was it favorite? Yo, you gotta, you gotta start low.

[Sophie]

Your family owns a whole bunch of nice restaurants in New York. Do better.

[Kevin]

It's first date and then it's just, you know, then the next you get bigger and better from there. Well done here. Places that women won't go. Denny's, the gym.

[Kev]

First off, I have obviously have to chime in here. Buffalo Wild Wings. Great place for a first aid. Great staff. And if you don't want to eat wings, there's a lot, there's a lot on the menu to, to kind of deviate. But I think eating wings with someone on a first date breaks down barriers.

[Sophie]

Oh, but that's ballsy. I don't think a lot of females would do that.

[Kev]

If I, if I'm booking it. You're coming.

[Sophie]

No, that. But I'm saying I don't think they're going to be getting like your traditional wing. I think they'd get like a boneless or like a Moz stick.

[Kev]

Okay. But I still think. Yeah. And then you see, like, I want to know if the girl I'm going to first date with, if she gets, if she gets honey barbecue too. You're too boring for me. If she kind of, if she steps it up and does a little spicy garlic, maybe a hot bbq, maybe a Nashville hot. I can tell she's like, she has it in her to, to go the distance.

[Sophie]

Guys, if you really look at this list, this is who even who females are these. Because this is not. These are your typical first date places.

[Kev]

Oh, also Waffle House is on here. You're. That's crazy. Let's go to Waffle House.

[Sophie]

I know, but look, also coffee date, ice cream day, movie night, bowling, a hookah bar. A bar drinks.

[Kev]

If 18, which is coffee dates and, and, and 26, a bar just for drinks are on the same list. Where the fuck do you guys want to go?

[Sophie]

Well, that's what I'm saying is like, I don't, I don't agree with this.

[Kev]

No, me neither. 28 is like a lot of things.

[Sophie]

But dude, look at the comments. Look at Walmart. You know who's not on here though?

[Kev]

Shout out Manuel Watkins Manual Watkins big wig at Walmart.

[Kevin]

Rick Rossway did and he said, I cancel every date with each and every woman who approves this nonsense. Rick Ross, aka 10 piece lemon pepper. All flats.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Let's go, Rick.

[Sophie]

Yeah. This is dumb. I want to know what women these are because this is not right.

[Kev]

Cheesecake Factory. Honestly, it's like more of a. It's like, it's like it's a stigma with Cheesecake Factory. It's like in songs and like people always like tease about going there.

[Nav Green]

But this show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is boy Nav Green from the the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. The Chiefs. What's a wrap? It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy. Matthew Stafford.

[Sophie]

Where did Rabo Nicks at?

[Kev]

He ain't too far behind.

[Sophie]

He did all this talking.

[Nav Green]

What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Sophie]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Kev]

In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Cam Jordan]

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[Kev]

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[Kev]

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[Kevin]

I like showing up at the right.

[Kev]

Time, checking the wind, knowing what stand I need to be in. And then whenever it all comes together and it happens, that's the most satisfying thing ever. So when you do it on your own, it's like, I then can hang my hat. But if I had somebody say, hey, pull up on these dots and catch them right here, and you're gonna win. And then when I go in, it's like, yeah, it's cool. I won the tournament. The ultimate goal is done. But it's like, dude, I. When you find them and you make them bite, that's the pulse.

[Nav Green]

I love it.

[Kevin]

Listen to Lines and Tines with Spencer.

[Kev]

Graves on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, dude, of course you would.

[Sophie]

I would. Shut up, Kev. I can't believe. Or you did Chili's or Cheesecake Factory.

[Kev]

It was.

[Kevin]

It was Chili's. It was Bristol, Connecticut. Okay? There's not a lot of places around ESPN that's. This is the time and place. I'm trying to give Chili some more context. You know what? We probably got the sampler. Okay. I did it big. Okay, but we got the sampler. We got.

[Sophie]

Can I just say, though, guys, I think I'm more type of a girl where instead of going to, like, mainstream chain restaurant, like, if you would have taken me to, like, a local kind of dive bar or dive place in Connecticut, that would have said more about you than this typical Applebee's chili, just cheesecake.

[Kev]

Like, Connecticut's not like. Like a dive bar capital of the world.

[Sophie]

Connecticut sucks.

[Kev]

I do want people who are listening and not watching to know that this list of where not to take women, these are all on the same list. So, like, where the. Do you go? The movies, your house, coffee date, or bar for drinks? So what the. Where can. What can dudes do?

[Sophie]

Hey, dude, they also have. They also have on their bowling sports events.

[Kev]

Like, I'd rather cut my nuts off than go bowling, if we're being totally honest.

[Sophie]

I'm just saying, like, gives you something to do. I actually. I don't mind bowling, like, or go to a sporting event. Like, I don't. This is weird to me. I think the only thing that I wouldn't do that I do agree somewhere.

[Kev]

There requires a long drive.

[Sophie]

Well, I don't mind a long drive, but also family function on the first date. That's the one. No, no, I can agree with that.

[Kev]

I wouldn't do that.

[Kevin]

How do you guys feel about coffee dates? I feel like people do that all the time.

[Kev]

I'm not. I'm not into it, but I think the reason you go to get drinks is to kind of, like, lower your walls a little and to just be vulnerable. And it's, like, kind of cozy. Coffee dates. The sun's out bright as, and you're, like, just making yourself more anxious and, like, you're gonna have to take a dump, like, at some point. Like, I just don't. Coffee dates are crazy to me. It's just so intense in the middle of the day.

[Sophie]

Yeah, but.

[Kev]

And the room and the romantic part of it or, like, the lust part of it is also gone, because you're probably not gonna, like, go home after.

[Sophie]

Yeah, but maybe not everyone wants to have sex on the first date.

[Kev]

I didn't mean that. Okay. Oh, damn it. Anyways, Kev, keep it moving.

[Sophie]

That was. That was the most, like, male thing, and I had a.

[Kevin]

So this. And this could be a date question. This could be bigger than that. But hot take here. Bravo's top chef Tom Colicchio. He says appetizers are not meant to be shared. So your guys take on that.

[Sophie]

I don't believe that. I think appetizers are for the table.

[Kev]

I've noticed. Maybe it's a New York thing. Maybe it's an age thing. Maybe it's just a trendy thing. The more I go out to eat with groups, home style is like, excuse me. Family style has been more prominent in the last few years than ever before. Maybe that's because people aren't, like, super nitpicky with, like, I paid for this.

[Sophie]

Like, let me eat it.

[Kev]

Because everyone's, like, kind of growing up and has a little more money. But, like, I would say everything is shared almost at this point. Like, obviously, if you go to steakhouse, you order your steak, you want your steak.

[Sophie]

That's different.

[Kev]

I want to try stuff yeah, so this is.

[Kevin]

This is part of Tom's, like, debate. He's like, you want to share stuff, but, like, you only like one app, and by the time you get it, you just get, like, the smear of the sauce, like a little cornmeal bite.

[Sophie]

You can say that about anything in life. It's how you look at anything like that. Then order more of that app.

[Kev]

Like, yeah, you fucking dork.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I don't. I don't believe apps are to be shared.

[Kevin]

We don't want to eat at Tom's table. All right, sorry, Tom. You're. You're. You're kicked out of here. All right, moving on here. More food. Maybe I was hungry when I was doing this rundown. I don't know.

[Kev]

Guys.

[Sophie]

Hey, page eight West.

[Nav Green]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

That'S the second time Sophie's brought up page eight. Wes brought up the article. I feel you guys are trying to tell me something. All right?

[Sophie]

You're like this, dude. You're a stick.

[Kevin]

But all right, maybe not after these bagels. So today's national bagel day. Woohoo. 40% of the USA eats bagels at least once a week. Here's their top five rankings. Let me know what you guys think.

[Kev]

Like this number one.

[Kevin]

Number one, plain. Number two, Asiago. Number three. Number three is everything.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Number four is a six cheese, and number five is cheddar jalapeno. So very, very cheesy choices here.

[Sophie]

Dude, I'm all for all those. I think what I would add in there because sometimes I'm craving, like, more of a sweet, is like, the cinnamon twist.

[Kev]

Cinnamon. Cinnamon. Cinnamon. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin]

I thought was. Was a huge, huge. I go two. I go two or threesome and raising. Honestly.

[Kev]

Yeah. I don't think that you have two. Two cheese bagels in the top five. They're like. They're like first cousins. I. I separate.

[Sophie]

Really? You have three. You have Asiago, the six chefs. Jalapeno, cheddar.

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Kev]

But I mean, still a fine list. And plain is. I get it.

[Sophie]

I don't like that. I don't like that.

[Kev]

I don't order plain. But, like, plain is the. Is the golden standard of, like, if a bagel's good, it's good plain. You know what I'm saying? So, like, a good bagel shop in New York City, like, you're gonna be able to test how good of quality that bagel is if it's plain, rather than all the bells and whistles that you would get to, like, maybe cover up your lack of quality bagel I agree with that.

[Sophie]

But I will say I am someone who always has to have a type of cream cheese on my bagel. Like, I don't do the butter. I don't do the peanut butter, the jelly. I need, like, some type of cream cheese, and they have gotten some. There are some really yummy cream cheeses out there.

[Kev]

Games changed.

[Kevin]

Games changed since we were kids. Blueberry, cream cheese, scallion, cream cheese, vegetable. I'm a sweet guy, actually. I'm gonna go blueberry. Something like that.

[Kev]

Oh, that's nice. Fine list. I'm okay with it. Also, who is in a kitchen right now?

[Kevin]

I'm in the office.

[Kev]

So.

[Kevin]

Kitchen bundle. That's your wife. Dandra, actually. Oh, you know very well.

[Sophie]

Hello.

[Kevin]

I'll tell her. Keep it down. So last bagel related topic here. So at the end of the month in Vegas, the world Bagel eating Championship. I'm sure you guys already know. Very invested. Joey Chestnut holds the record for 15 bagels with cream cheese in eight minutes. How many bagels are you guys gonna eat in eight minutes? I think I could do.

[Sophie]

Wait, guys, I have a. I have something to admit. What's his. What's his d. What's his Instagram?

[Kevin]

Stop. Joey Chestnut. What the you about to say, Sophie?

[Sophie]

He followed me, like, a couple months back, and I might have been out with friends and drinking, and I saw it and I was like, I Larry D him. I said, you were my childhood hero.

[Kev]

That's amazing.

[Sophie]

Yeah. And he said, yeah. He was just like, thanks. Like, I'll be ring for you in the Fever. Dominate. Bring home the championship to Indiana. Is he from Indiana or does he live there?

[Kevin]

Cash, let's. Let's ask. Let's ask the good folks [e-mail].

[Sophie]

I'M such a dweeb because guys remember how many hot dogs he ate. Like, I wanted to be in a. In a food eating competition because it.

[Kev]

Probably has a permanent residence in Coney Island.

[Kevin]

Well, he lives in Cali now. Where was.

[Sophie]

Oh, maybe he's just Fever fans, because he literally said. He said, that's awesome. Thank you. I'll be rooting for you and the Fever to dominate and bring a championship to Indiana next year. So when he said that, I was like, oh, maybe he lives in Indiana.

[Kevin]

Nope, he's born and raised in Cali. Didn't know they bred eaters like that.

[Kev]

I know some eaters from Cali, boy.

[Kevin]

All right, I got one more headline for you here. This one comes from the NBA world. Back into sports. Jalen Brown recently went off on the refs, he begged for the fine. He said, give me a fine. After night where he went to the line only once, the NBA obliged, they did find him. $350,000.

[Kev]

Damn. Listen to that.

[Kevin]

35. 35.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Not 350, 000 fact check here. Good factor guys.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

So what's your reaction to this?

[Sophie]

All right, I, I'm just, I feel very validated because not that I need that, but the amount of guys, players, the amount of coaches, the amount of people associated with the NBA are also saying that refs are at an all time low. And like people who like no ball and stuff like that, they look at the W side and like, dude, like you guys like that it's bad. Like it's really bad. And so now you're kind of seeing like the NBA and it's, it's not great either. And so for like one of the best players who like arguably could be an MVP in the NBA, like for him to say something that, that says, you know, you know that I was right and so I feel fine. I hate that his fine was $35,000 and ours and the W is around 200. But you know money than me, dude, I know.

[Kev]

Did he ask for the fine on the floor or was it post game?

[Sophie]

Post game, dude. But it is ridiculous. Like it, it is like the inconsistency is crazy. And I know that their job is freaking hard, but at the end of the day they, you need to invest in people and in certain things that make basketball so elite, and that is the refs. So if you pay them more, they're more invested. They don't have to work other jobs. They're more refreshed to do the MBA or the wnba. So it all comes down yet again to money and investing in a good product. And so I feel for these people, like I truly do feel for refs because I know that their schedule sucks. They're. They're year round. Like I, I get it. So if the leagues were just to pay them more, then they wouldn't have to be working five other conferences and they could just be focused on a pro ref being a pro ref. It's not that hard.

[Kev]

Did you, did you know that professional refs, I think at least in the NFL you have to have, you have to make so much money or have so much net worth in assets because they don't want refs to ever be a need to like fix games to like make money on the side. So like every, every professional ref has essentially like very Good income or, like, lots of money anyways. And I'm trying to think of any other occupation where they would, like, where your. Your net worth outside of the job, like, matters. And that's one of them.

[Sophie]

Because that would.

[Kev]

People that would money and throw games.

[Sophie]

That would 100 make sense. But, like, these leagues are, like, they don't. They shouldn't even have to go to outside sources. Like, these leagues should pay them enough money. Where they're like, hey, I am proud to be an NBA ref. I'm. I'm proud to be a WNBA ref. This is what I get paid. Like, this is what I do. This is what I love. Because at the end of the day, they do love their job. But I'm not kidding. I was watching a college basketball game the other day and it was a WNBA crew, and I'm like, oh, like.

[Kev]

Literally, if we wanna wait. But if we wanna talk about, like, why there's probably a shortage of refs, at least I would imagine anyone starts reffing at a smaller scale and you work your way up, dude. Dealing with parents today would be a nightmare. Dealing with entitled kids who like, dude, have you seen all these clips of these little kids who are mic'd up and they're in fifth grade playing sports?

[Sophie]

No, I hate it.

[Kev]

It's cooked. No, it's so bad.

[Sophie]

No, I hate where social media, where nil. Where the transit portal where. Where all of this is taking sports is taking away the purity. It is taking away the levels of. Of sports. Like, I hate it. And there are pros to it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not dumb. I know there's pros to that type of stuff, but there's also way more negatives, and everyone's worried about that. No. Go learn how to fucking work hard. Go learn how to be the ultimate competitor, to be a great teammate, to have discipline ob. Like, stop worrying about your social media. You're five years old. I hate it. And it's mainly the parents. Idiots. All right. That's all I have to say.

[Kev]

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[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kev]

Is that eight and eight and a half point favorites. Okay. I personally I think it would be fun for Miami to win it at home at the crib, but Indiana has been fucking d pantsing elite football programs and not blinked. Alabama pulled their pants down. Fucking Oregon. They pulled their pants down. Like I've LSU and Burrow played is like the only other team or like 2001 Miami Hurricanes. There's. There's not a lot comparable to like how good they've looked in when it mattered most. I think Indiana wins by more than a score probably. I I sent College Football Playoff actually asked me for my prediction the other day and I said, I said IU3420. See it. Kilroy's after. And you. You kind of have to pick Indiana. I just. I just realized I don't have to.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I mean, I don't have to, but. Yeah, there. I. I just love how it's like such a basketball state. Like, Indiana is known for. Like, the college is known for basketball and so for the football team just to come in and just like rock people's world right now. They've actually been so fun to watch, like, in their team and like, their chemistry and just how they all just like love each other. Absolutely love. So, you know, I would. I think it's cool. Miami, you know, it's in Miami. The weather is going to be nice, whatever. But I'm. I'm all Indiana on this one. Yeah.

[Kev]

Yeah. They just look. They look unstoppable. It's pretty unreal. I will say though, all the people who fucking cried that Miami made the playoffs. Now look at you, you dorks.

[Sophie]

Shout out. Yes.

[Kev]

I. I would. Dude, I would take Indiana to cover too. That's like. I just don't know how you. After watching their last two games, I.

[Sophie]

Think the country would be in complete shock if Indiana did not win. Like, everyone knows Indiana is going to win.

[Kev]

I think so. But. But then again, if you want to talk history or like, if you were to ask everyone 10 years ago what school is most likely to win a national championship in the next 20 years, you would say Miami every time.

[Sophie]

But, dude, but they're. I just feel like Indiana is in such a different mindset than. Than everyone right now. Like, they're just on a roll and like, nothing is getting in their way.

[Kev]

Yeah, no, I agree. I agree.

[Sophie]

And if I have later, then I have to eat my words later. But I. I just don't feel like.

[Kev]

Have you. Have you gone out in Bloomington yet?

[Sophie]

Oh, oh, did you hear that?

[Kev]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Bloomington, Illinois.

[Kev]

No, Bloomington, Indiana, where the University of Indiana is now. Have someone drive you down, like, for a weekend and just like everyone deserves a good college town weekend. Bloomington's dope. Bloomington's dope. I. I threw up in the backyard of Kilroy's in like 2016. So.

[Sophie]

Dude, we have a Kilroy in Indianapolis.

[Kev]

Yeah, it's the. That's like the. The one off from the one at iu.

[Sophie]

Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I don't know about Indiana.

[Kev]

Well, anyone listening to this who went to IU and lives in Indianapolis offer Sophie a fun weekend. You know, go watch the girls hoop. So that is our CFP predictions And that segment is brought to you by Hard Rock bet, baby. I don't want to, like, say this because, like, I would never say this a lot because then it loses value. This is one of my favorite episodes we've recorded. I think we just had some fun and there wasn't anything, like.

[Sophie]

I know.

[Kev]

Crazy to talk about.

[Sophie]

And we need to get Becca Tilly on this. I feel like I'd be best friends with her.

[Kev]

Okay.

[Sophie]

Little.

[Kev]

Someone's got a little crush.

[Sophie]

No, I don't.

[Kev]

She's engaged. Dude, stay off.

[Sophie]

I don't. I don't have a crush. I just think that she'd be a cool vibe.

[Kev]

Yeah. All right, Becca, pull up. Thanks for hanging, guys. See ya.

[Sophie]

Love ya. Actually, we'll see you guys next week in New York. This is fun. Live one. Bye.

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[Kev]

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[Kev]

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It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with season three of your favorite podcast, the off the Edge with Cam Jordan Podcast. Tap in every Wednesday to hear conversations with my friends and stars for the NFL, the sports world in general, and entertainment about anything from teams and players making waves to pop culture. And I'll take you inside my journey through my 15th season in the NFL. Looking forward to you joining me this season. The season of More on the off the Edge with Cam Jordan Podcast. Catch new episodes every Wednesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kev]

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[Sophie]

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