Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham's Top 4 players in 2026 WNBA Draft, CBA negotiations, March Madness preview

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Episode: Show Me Something – Sophie Cunningham’s Top 4 Players in 2026 WNBA Draft, CBA Negotiations, March Madness Preview
Date: March 13, 2026
Host/Guests: Sophie Cunningham, Kevin, Wes

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the landscape of women’s basketball with a focus on the 2026 WNBA Draft prospects, ongoing collective bargaining agreement (CBA) negotiations in the league, and a preview of March Madness. Sophie Cunningham, a prominent WNBA player, shares her thoughts on draft standouts, current trends in basketball, and offers candid takes on everything from sports training to social media relationships. The episode also detours through pop culture, gym etiquette, and notable headlines in the sports world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sophie Cunningham’s 2026 WNBA Draft Top Picks

[02:13], [13:46], [15:22]

• Top Prospects Named by Sophie:
  • Azzi Fudd (Connecticut):
    “Az Fudd from Connecticut is clearly going to be on everyone’s, everyone wants her as they should. I think Az would be good, she is very dynamic. She can shoot. She’s a smart player. She’s a team player.” – Sophie [02:13], [15:22]
  • UCLA “Big Girl”:
    “If I were on a team that needs a big, I would get the UCLA girl. She’s big. She has a lot of potential. She needs some work, but great body, great feel for the game.” – Sophie [02:36], [15:22]
  • Olivia Miles (TCU, previously Notre Dame):
    “Olivia Miles, who was at Notre Dame, now at TCU—she's going to be pretty good.” – Sophie [02:41], [13:46]
  • Flau’jae Johnson (LSU):
    “Flage from LSU. She’s also a rapper, too, so that could be kind of fun. If she gets the right fit, she could be really freaking good in the pros. All of them could.” – Sophie [02:53], [14:16]
• Draft Realities:
  • “The draft is weird because people don’t really stick. So, like, your top five, maybe two of them stick.” – Sophie [11:30]

2. CBA Negotiations in the WNBA

[08:36] – [09:57]

• The March 10th deadline was a critical date for reaching an agreement:
  • “Today is March 10th. This is like the day there has to become an agreement or season gets pushed back. If both sides stop negotiating…a lockout would come about…They are meeting later this afternoon and evening.” – Sophie [08:38]
• Sophie’s Critique:
  • “If they get the deal done today, great…but it also would kind of make me mad because since they know that it is today, they could have been this urgent all along.” – Sophie [09:21]
• Impact on the Draft:
  • “Does that fuck up the draft, dude?” – Kevin [09:54]
  • “It’s all dependent on our CBA because our start time can be different, compensation, free agency—it all just so dependent on it.” – Sophie [09:57]

3. Changing Trends in Women’s Basketball

[16:01] – [20:10], [18:20]

• Bigs Becoming Versatile:
  • Teams favor bigs who can shoot and handle the ball (stretch 4s, 5s).
    “A lot of teams are going non-traditional bigs anymore. So you want stretch fours who can shoot. And a five who is like a Stewie who can shoot…big girl, but can handle the ball.” – Sophie [16:01]
• Following NBA Trends:
  • “That's how the game is trending. NBA is already there.” – Sophie [18:20]
  • “You do see trends in the [NBA] and our coaches…want to use that. If it fits your system, I don’t see why you wouldn’t try to copy that.” – Sophie [19:25]
• On Specialization vs. Cross-training:
  • “Kids nowadays choose one sport…and that’s all they do where it’s like…we are cross training. People do ballet. People do yoga. People do mountain biking.” – Sophie [07:12]

4. March Madness and Draft Dynamics

[10:26], [12:10], [12:45]

• Emphasis on the stories and rituals of college basketball and the ever-evolving nature of the draft.
  • “The draft is so weird…Even if you’re not in the WNBA or NBA, your professional career is still very much a thing possible.” – Sophie [11:30], [12:45]
• Global Opportunities in Basketball:
  • “Some will go pro, some will go overseas, you know.” – Sophie [12:45]

5. Lighter Segments & Pop Culture Detours

Gym & Training Talk

[05:55] – [07:34]

• Sophie’s Pilates routine: “Pilates has really, I think for the W, kind of become a thing. I get my like four or five times a week and I get my ass kicked in.” – Sophie [06:07]
• Kevin recalls training experiences and mentions NFL running backs taking ballet for balance and strength.

Sliding in DMs & Modern Relationships

[31:24] – [39:43]

• On DM sliding: “Go slide it. And I think that’s totally fine. But…I would have more respect for people who come up in person.” – Sophie [37:10]
• Kevin gives ‘pro tips’: “Wait for the moment you have something in common with somebody…then you’re not being a creepy weirdo.” – Kevin [34:42]
• Both discuss gym etiquette:
  • “Even guys who try to be friends at the gym…I see so many guys hit on girls at the gym and I’m like, leave her alone, dude.” – Kevin [38:13]
  • “Everything is just like, show how big your ass is…show your fake tits. And all these guys…It’s not based on, you’re like…not sexualized. Everything is so sexualized here.” – Sophie [39:05]

Headlines & Sports News

• Magic City Night Cancelled in Atlanta [20:22]:
  • Amusing discussion of the NBA vetoing a Hawks promotional event with Magic City strip club.
    • “I storied it and put like, this is a disgrace. Like, you should be ashamed…They weren’t gonna have strippers, just a nod to something that’s unique to Atlanta.” – Kevin [20:33]
• Travis Kelce Re-Signs with Chiefs [22:22]:
  “I didn't think after being in the playoffs for like, 95% of his career…he was going to go out like that.” – Kevin [22:40]
• NASCAR and Tailgates [24:27]:
  • Sophie: “This is one of my favorite parts. You can literally bring your own cooler like NASCAR said, bring the party with you.” [24:56]

Other Notables

• Hot Girl of the Week Segment [27:21]:
  • Sophie picks her Pilates instructor Taylor, Kevin picks chef Tess (Lamb Chop), praising their work and energy.
• World Baseball Classic Team Drama [43:04]:
  • “Apparently Rosarina went up to shake his hand, said, good to see you, and Cal Raleigh said, shove it up your ass.” – Kevin [44:38]
• Jason Tatum’s Comeback [46:13]:
  • “Any Missouri athlete will get nothing but love…Achilles injuries…so scary.” – Kevin [46:39]
  • “Just the grind of rehab…and he killed it, came back and still did that.” – Sophie [47:13]

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Notable Quotes

• On urgency of negotiations:
  “If they get the deal done today, great…but since they know that it is today, they could have been this urgent all along.” – Sophie [09:21]
• On modern bigs and basketball trends:
  “A lot of teams are going non-traditional bigs…you want stretch fours who can shoot…even bigs need to know how to handle the ball, need to know how to shoot.” – Sophie [16:01], [18:20]
• On DM etiquette:
  “Wait for the moment you have something in common…then you’re not being a creepy weirdo, and it feels like a natural occurrence.” – Kevin [34:42]
• On professional opportunities in basketball:
  “Even if you’re not in the WNBA or NBA, your professional career is still very much a thing possible.” – Sophie [12:45]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Sophie’s WNBA Draft Analysis: [02:13] [13:46] [15:22]
• CBA Negotiations Explained: [08:36]–[09:57]
• Changing Basketball Trends / Bigs Discussion: [16:01]–[20:10], [18:20]
• Draft Opportunities Worldwide: [12:45]
• DMs/Relationships & Gym Etiquette: [31:24]–[39:43]
• Hot Girl of the Week Segment: [27:21]–[30:59]
• World Baseball Classic Teammate Drama: [43:04]-[45:14]
• Jason Tatum Comeback: [46:13]–[48:09]

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Memorable Moments

• Sophie’s candid take on the “urgency” of CBA negotiations and how it could have happened sooner [09:21].
• Lively breakdown of shifting roles for WNBA post players and how the NBA’s stretch big trend has filtered into the women’s game [16:01], [18:20].
• Kevin’s pro-tip about DM sliding, emphasizing not being creepy and making natural connections [34:42].
• Detailed, light-hearted takes on gym dynamics (“leave her alone, dude!”) and the over-sexualization of gym culture [39:05].
• Laughter and surprise over the MLB teammate snub in the World Baseball Classic [44:38].
• Genuine admiration for Jason Tatum’s post-injury comeback [47:13].

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This engaging episode offers a full-portrait of basketball’s evolving present and future, peppered with stories, hot takes, and plenty of humor for fans of both the game and the personalities involved.

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[Sophie]

I mean I have my my few I think you know Az Fudd from Connecticut is clearly going to be on everyone's everyone wants her as they should. I think Az would be good I think. I think that she is very dynamic. She can shoot. She's a smart player. She's a team player. If I were on a team that needs a big, I would get the UCLA girl. That's so. I think she's.

[Kevin]

She's big.

[Sophie]

She has a lot of potential. She. I mean, she needs some work, but great body, great, great feel for the game. She'd be good. Olivia Miles, who was at Notre Dame, now at tcu. She's going to be pretty good Flage from lsu. She's also a rapper too, so that could be kind of fun. I think she has. It is so weird because people who dominate in college, like, you have to be able to figure out your role and, like, it's just so different. The college and pros are so, so different. But I do think that if she gets the right fit, she could be really freaking good in the pros. All of them could.

[Wes]

So if you had the top pick, which one of those girls are you taking?

[Sophie]

Ooh, that's a. That's a great question. I think I would.

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[Sophie]

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I got you, Kev. It's a good thing we have a producer in the studio.

[Sophie]

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[Kevin]

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[Sophie]

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[Kevin]

Oh, it's way better. Okay, when did we talk last?

[Sophie]

I don't know, like a week. But I feel like you have a lot of energy today and I'm. I'm really liking it.

[Kevin]

Well, for those also just listening, Sophie's 40 minutes late. So I've been sitting here talking to Kev, just holding on to information.

[Sophie]

Okay, well, here's my thing. I thought I still had another 40 minutes because I didn't know that the frickin time changed. So I was waiting.

[Kevin]

Oh, this brings us back to, like, our second episode, Kev. When we were talking about there are two states that don't Change during daylight savings. You guys don't move your clocks when everyone else does, dude.

[Sophie]

So I. So I had. I had no idea that other people move their clocks. I don't even know when that happened.

[Kevin]

No one even. I guess I have a lot of real clocks in my apartment, but obviously I don't like, check them for time.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

But I guess I gotta. And my microwave. Yeah.

[Wes]

Gotta reset those. See, I didn't want to call attention to the issue because these are backto back producer problems that. That I did not solve.

[Sophie]

So with that being said, dude, I had no idea. So Kevin texted me and was like, hey, you gonna. Hey, girl, you're getting on the podcast. I'm like, dude, I got 40 minutes. I was like, literally I just got back home from Pilates and I went to go. I know. I was gonna take like a 30 minute nap. Psych.

[Kevin]

How was Pilates hard today?

[Sophie]

Oh my gosh. I was sweating

[Kevin]

a lot of core.

[Sophie]

A lot of glutes. Glutes, core? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Do. Does the team insist that you take Pilates or is that your own?

[Sophie]

Honestly, no. So this is the last kind of couple years. Pilates has really, I think for the W kind of become a thing. I get my like four or five times a week and I get my ass kicked in Pilates.

[Kevin]

You're doing Pilates five times a week?

[Sophie]

Kind of more four. But I try to get five in if I'm here. And like. Because you still. It's so good for like the smaller muscles and all that, but like, you still need to lift and like train basketball. But I'm not kidding. Like, I've seen my body make a little difference. You should get into it.

[Kevin]

I. We did my. The summer before my senior year, the dbs, we all did. We had to go to Pilates. It was like the DB coach we had at the time had us all do it. And it's hard. It's really hard. I also heard there's a. There's NFL running backs that take ballet.

[Sophie]

Yep. Yep.

[Kevin]

Which I'll probably explain this wrong, but like, it's just so good for like small muscles in your legs and. And balance and shit that like, it's so health. It's so healthy.

[Sophie]

No, it really is kind of cool. And I think this is actually. I. I'm not going to get into it because I'm going to wait until I go on my rant.

[Kevin]

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[Sophie]

My JLab. But I'm just going to give you a little sneak peek. Is like, I think kids nowadays choose one Sport. And that's all they do where it's like, dude, look at collegiate athletes. Look at the pros. Like, we are cross training. People do ballet. People do yoga. People do mountain biking. People do swimming. Like, it is so important because then you just move, use other muscles that you normally wouldn't in your sport.

[Wes]

You know, I looked it up. Herschel Walker and Barry Sanders both did ballet. They're like generational grades. Maybe we're all just sleeping on the here.

[Sophie]

No, that is like, that is a big thing that a lot of football players, especially kind of like the bigger guys, they do it for their balance and for like their core and stuff like that. I don't know.

[Kevin]

So I hope Coach Aad does not listen to this podcast. He didn't. He didn't like football players cross training.

[Sophie]

Why?

[Kevin]

Because he wanted us to do his like, speed program in the spring. And so, yeah, I, I mean, I, He. I would do football workouts and then track workouts, which is probably like, not good for your body, but I know me bush and like, that might have been it. Like Elijah Pete, maybe.

[Sophie]

Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. I forgot about him.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Pd. Okay, this week, WNBA news. We hadn't talked about WNBA a lot until like last week.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Any. Any movements.

[Sophie]

So today is March 10th. This is like the day that there has to become an agreement or we. I think season gets pushed back. If both sides stop negotiating, then that's when a lockout would come about, which. Yes, but we're hoping that doesn't happen. All I know is that our, Our executives in theirs, in the league, they are meeting later this afternoon and later this evening. Okay, but can I say something? Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Well, I'm like, we wouldn't. We'll know. We'll know within 48 hours.

[Sophie]

No, we have to know tonight.

[Kevin]

Oh, we will. Okay.

[Sophie]

But here's my. Here's my thing is they chose March 10th and, like, if they get the deal done today, great. Like, everyone will be happy. Right. But it also would kind of make me mad because since they know that it is today, they could have been this urgent all along. You know what I mean?

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I knew you were going to say that.

[Sophie]

Yeah. Do you kind of get what I'm saying a little bit?

[Kevin]

No. Yeah, of course. I knew where you were going when you started talking.

[Sophie]

Yes. That's annoying.

[Kevin]

If. If it doesn't happen. So the draft is coming up.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Does the. Does that fuck up the draft, dude?

[Sophie]

I think. I don't know. Like, nobody knows. You know what I mean? Like, it's all dependent on our CBA because our cba, our start time is can be different. Our the compensation the free like it all just so dependent on it. It's not a lot of new things. So it's all dependent on today. You know, we'll see what happens. Our favorite game day memories, well, they don't always happen on the court. Sometimes they happen in the hotel lobby or over a pregame meal. And Marriott Bonvoy knows this best.

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[Kevin]

Are you someone who like, do you follow the draft when you're on? Like, are you following what your team does or do you like to just figure it out when everyone shows up?

[Sophie]

Well, I'm not sure.

[Kevin]

Different.

[Sophie]

No one's a part of a team right now. But just like generally if I was, I am someone who the draft is so weird and like if there's like good classes that I'm definitely like following it to kind of see. But like I normally the draft is weird because like people, people don't really stick. So like your top five, maybe two of them stick. Like it's just so weird. But I do think like last year's draft was really good. The year before that was clearly really good. This year I think there's going to be some like key players that are going to be good. But like it's all about opportunity and if, if that team needs what that player gives. You know what I mean? Like it's very weird, of course.

[Kevin]

I just think, I think drafts are like kind of overhyped. To be honest, I think the first few rounds of the NFL draft do matter. But, like, nothing else. I don't know. Like, it's weird. Like, once the teams, at least for the NBA, when teams are set up in the lottery, like, you already know who they're going to get, like, then. Yeah, that part's already established.

[Sophie]

Yeah,

[Kevin]

but do you have anyone, like, would you follow Mizzou girls?

[Sophie]

I. I do, but I. None of them will get drafted. Like, okay. They're. Yeah, but they. Some will go pro, some will go overseas, you know. Right.

[Kevin]

So that's the whole thing too, with, like, basketball, at least that football doesn't have. Is, like, even if you're not in the WNBA or NBA, like, your professional career is still very much a thing possible.

[Sophie]

Wait, don't. Doesn't football have, like, the Canada League and, like, Canadian.

[Kevin]

Canadian League, but it's not that. Canadian League is the only other league, I would say, that has, like, a bit of substance to it. Like, some of my friends from college went to Europe to play football, and

[Sophie]

it's just like, there's no. There's. That's just not a thing.

[Kevin]

But, I mean, I guess there's some. They're getting their houses paid for and stuff, so, like, it's cool. I just. I don't. I don't think it's worth that. Chasing the dream.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Play and, you know, I hear that. Whatever. Not to be a hater. Like, chase your dreams.

[Sophie]

No, you're not being a hater, but I also think you're being realistic. Like, so is it. Is the sacrifice worth.

[Kevin]

Right. You know, especially football when you're killing yourself.

[Sophie]

Yes.

[Kevin]

Every day. Anyone in the draft that you, like, think is special or, like, sleeper. Any. Any draft analysis from you?

[Sophie]

I mean, I have my. My few. I think, you know, Az Fudd from Connecticut is clearly going to be on everyone's. Everyone wants her. As they should. There's a chick out of ucla, big girl. She's good. Olivia Miles, who was at Notre Dame, now at tcu. She's going to be pretty good. Who else do we have? Oh, how.

[Kevin]

Here's a fun question.

[Sophie]

Oh, yeah. LSU girl Flage from lsu. She's also a rapper, too, so that could be kind of fun.

[Kevin]

Fun Fact. Interviewed her at Complex last year.

[Sophie]

How was it?

[Kevin]

She was good. She was fun. And then she filmed a music video in our studio. I have video footage of it. We were, like, throwing money, like, onto the stage.

[Sophie]

Yeah, dude, that's hilarious.

[Kevin]

She did a whole music video in our Studio.

[Sophie]

I think she has. It is so weird because people who dominate in college, like, you have to be able to figure out your role in, like, it's just so different. The college and pros are so, so different. But I do think that if she gets the right fit, she could be really freaking good in the pros. All of them could. She's.

[Kevin]

She's still rapping, I think so. I wonder if she can do both the big leagues.

[Sophie]

Probably. I mean, especially if the W season's only for that amount of time and

[Kevin]

then a lot of studio time about to open up. Flash.

[Sophie]

Hell yeah, girl. I'm a fan.

[Wes]

So if you had the top pick, which one of those girls are you taking?

[Sophie]

Um. Ooh, that's a. That's a great question. I think I would. I think AZ would be good. I think. I think that she is very dynamic. She can shoot. She's a smart player. She's a team player. But I also think, like, if I were on a team that needs a big, I would get the UCLA girl. But so I think she's. She's big. She has a lot of potential. She. I mean, she needs some work, but great body. Great, great feel for the game. She'd be good.

[Kevin]

Are there any teams in the W, and I could be wrong, that don't have a big five and they just play, like, all smalls?

[Sophie]

Dude, A lot of teams are going non traditional bigs anymore. So you want, like, stretch fours who can shoot. You want to shoot? Yeah. And a five who is like a stewie who. She can shoot. She's kind of a four more. But you have J.J. jjones, who's their five, and she can shoot and she can handle the ball. Big girl. Like, yeah. A lot of people don't have traditional post players.

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[Sophie]

Anymore. But that's actually a great point that you brought up because a lot of bigs, unless they're like super dominant, you know, like down low, unstoppable, fine. But like like if you're an Asia Wilson, yeah, sometimes she can knock down the three. But like nowadays your big people even need to know how to handle the ball, need to know how to shoot. But that's how the game is trending. NBA is already there.

[Kevin]

I was going to say NBA's clearly been that way for a minute. I think we've talked about this before, but do you find the WNBA game. It's always. They're always going to be different sports. But like do you find trends kind of trickle down to the W. Yeah. Or do they just happen naturally like on their.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I think naturally they happen. But I also think.

[Kevin]

Can I. I'm totally interrupting and I'm so sorry but like you're fine. I mean cece is what Steph Curry was so like. But I would say that you don't even have to contribute that to the the NBA. That's like fully her game that like changed changed college basketball and like you could Argue now will change the W.

[Sophie]

No, I, I totally agree with you. I think it naturally changes because the, the game naturally evolves. I think the men, it just kind of evolves quicker. But you, you do see like trends in the, and our coaches and like our, our scouts and our front office, they see what works in the NBA and they naturally want to use that because the. Think about it. If, if a W team is doing something that was working 20 years ago and then you have a fresh new mindset kind of coming in of like doing this action instead and it's working, you're getting it from the mba. So that's why I hate when people are like, the W wants to do nothing. Like the NBA. It's like, no, like they are successful. They, they do it really well. Like, try to copy that. If it fits your system.

[Kevin]

They, you know what they don't do well? PSA tell me hold fun family events at Atlanta Hawks games. Oh, here we go. Here we go.

[Sophie]

Let's get into it. Dude, I saw right when they, they canceled the Magic City that you guys were gonna have a lot to say about that. I saw your story.

[Kevin]

I, I storied it and put like, this is a disgrace. Like, you should be ashamed. Okay. For anyone who doesn't know NBA or excuse me, the Hawks were gonna hold a Magic City night, which is an iconic strip club, but a strip club that has like a five star kitchen. It's like a institution. An institution in Atlanta. They weren't gonna have like strippers like shaking ass in the aisles and stuff. But it was just like a nod to something that makes, that's unique to Atlanta. And Kevin.

[Sophie]

What?

[Kevin]

Some player from. Was it from Utah? No, no, no, no. The dude who wrote in and said it was like inappropriate.

[Wes]

Oh, Luke Cornett.

[Kevin]

Yeah, Luke Cornette.

[Sophie]

Oh, he's the one who said it was inappropriate.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

But then Al Horford, Al Horford quote, tweeted his tweet and said like, great take. So there are like a couple people who kind of tried to call it out. But then yesterday, mind you, mind you, the day after International Women's Day, yeah, the NBA pulled the plug and said Atlanta can't do it. So Atlanta had to post a thing saying, like, well, really disappointed. Like we're, you know, the NBA gets final say, blah, blah, blah, blah. But they were going to have, they

[Sophie]

already have the gear and stuff. People are still trying to get like the gear that was already made. Like the shirts.

[Kevin]

There's going to be merch. I think TI was performing at half and then they had two wing flavors that Magic City cooks up, and they were going to serve those, and now. Now for what? For nothing.

[Sophie]

Dude, that is funny. Funny. But how does the NBA, like, how did Adam Silver not hear about it sooner? You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

There's no way. No, he definitely heard about it. He just, like, it got to a point where he was like, I think the right thing to do is pull it. Which. Boo.

[Sophie]

Did you have to cancel your flight?

[Kevin]

I quote, tweeted it and said, like, this has cemented me as a college hoops guy.

[Sophie]

But speaking of leagues, our boy Travis Kelsey back on the Chiefs, baby.

[Kevin]

One more year. 12 mil.

[Sophie]

Wow.

[Kevin]

Here's the thing with. I've had a lot of people actually ask me. They're like, do you think he'll retire? I said, no. And then I said, yes. And then.

[Sophie]

Wait, you mean after last year?

[Kevin]

Yes, after last year. I didn't think after being in the playoffs for, like, 95% of his career and then making the super bowl the last three, I didn't think he was going to go out like that. Like, the way the Chiefs went out.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

But then I thought, does he want to go through a whole off season and potentially weeks one through four or five without Patrick? Because that's a long. A football off season is long. And like, OTAs fall camp, like, those are not fun. Yeah, but does he want to do that with a random backup for. At his age? And I thought, no. He felt like writing on the wall. But he's staying. It's official. Not really a hometown discount at all, but, I mean, he does. I wouldn't. He doesn't need to take less money, but you'd think the Chiefs would, like. I don't know if they lowballed him and he brought it back up, but you're good. So he's staying. And then also, while we're on the topic of free agency, the Chief signed Kenneth Walker, running back from the Seahawks. He was super bowl mvp, Arby's athlete.

[Sophie]

I knew I liked him.

[Kevin]

Yeah. So Chief signed a running back who is an MVP and has the meats, which is great news for everyone. The. The Lions just signed Isaiah Pacheco.

[Sophie]

What? So he.

[Kevin]

So he's gone? I mean, that was going to happen.

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[Kevin]

Oh, he is a Jersey boy.

[Sophie]

Do you think that they're just chasing money?

[Kevin]

I mean, what do you think? Like, he was going to get more in Detroit than the Chiefs were going to pay him? We just, like, brought someone else in.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

All right, quick NASCAR moment here. Because Sophie and I had an unreal time at the race in Atlanta back in February.

[Sophie]

Yeah, that was one of those events. For the second you walk in, you're like, okay, this is different. The sound, the speed, the crowd, pure energy.

[Kevin]

And loud, like really loud in the best possible way. The cars are flying by, people are on their feet. Everyone's into it.

[Sophie]

It's the kind of atmosphere where even if you've never really watched a race before five minutes in, you are so locked in.

[Kevin]

And the fans there know how to do it right, too. Tailgates everywhere, grills going, people hanging out all day.

[Sophie]

Plus, this is one of my favorite parts. You can literally bring your own cooler like NASCAR said. Yeah, bring the party with you.

[Kevin]

And one of NASCAR's biggest races of the year is coming up on April 26, the Jack Lynx 500 at Talladega Super Speedway.

[Sophie]

Be sure to check it out at 3:00pm Eastern Time on Fox or have a hell of a time by checking the action out for yourself. Tickets are available@tall superspeedway.com I also love how people are like, companies are sending you casserole dishes.

[Kevin]

Dude. Dude. I got so much like fine china and dishware this past week. I had a. I Instagram yesterday, but someone sent me a shirt that said I heart casseroles. I saw that do the things I. It's just like, it just never stops.

[Sophie]

I love that though. I think it's awesome. I truly think it's awesome.

[Kevin]

Or like, what, what network TV chefs are still famous? Like Bobby Flay, Rachael Ray, she. Aren't they all canceled? Just Paula Deen. Rachel Ray's not canceled, right?

[Sophie]

She's still on it. Sorry, I'm starving. I needed to eat something.

[Kevin]

It's Iron Chef and the curtain reveals. It just left like, who made this breakfast casserole? It was me.

[Sophie]

What? Who's the girl that you cook with all the time?

[Kevin]

Oh, wire in front of your camera. But great question. Her name's Tess.

[Sophie]

Timeout. You're really on the producer today.

[Kevin]

Her name's Tess. We met like three years ago and she's like pretty self taught and she. But she's a full time like TikTok chef and she is, I mean, well, one. She's like an angel from heaven.

[Sophie]

She seems awesome.

[Kevin]

So cool. But I always show up and we have like these loose ideas and. And she just knocks it out of the park every time. And then every time she cooks without me, I'm like, I get foam. Everything she makes is like, she also cooks like everything's like, hearty. Like, bratwurst and cheeseburgers and pasta and dump. Like, it's just. She's the best. And she's. She just got engaged.

[Sophie]

I know.

[Kevin]

I love. Yeah.

[Sophie]

Talked about her before on the pod.

[Kevin]

Yeah, she's lovely. Like, they're. They're like the coolest people of all time. She just had a birthday.

[Sophie]

She should be.

[Kevin]

Should she be Hot Girl of the Week? I was going to give it to mother. I was going to give it to Mother Nature, but let's do fudgeing Tess.

[Sophie]

Why Mother Nature?

[Kevin]

Because it's warm and everyone's, like, outside.

[Sophie]

Oh, I like that. I like.

[Kevin]

No, let's do. Let's do test. It was her birthday on Friday.

[Sophie]

All right, so you want to get into Hot Girl of the Week?

[Kevin]

Hot Girl of the Week. Mine is Lamb Chop. At Lamb Chop, I cook with her sometimes, but she also cooks on her own and with other friends. She's the fucking goat coolest person ever. I just. I. I could talk about her for.

[Sophie]

Love her hours. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Well, I will say, the cheese that you guys made for those cheeseburgers, that looked banging, dude, that, like, looks so good.

[Kevin]

So that's the thing that. Actually, it was the thing in Japan. Japan, like, did it first, and then Applebee's tried to make it a thing, and so everyone was like, is this from Applebee's? And I was like, no, it's not.

[Sophie]

That is, like, the most typical, like, American thing ever of, like. Like, the Japanese people, like, killing it. And then all of a sudden, Applebee's takes it over. So. Typical. Typical.

[Kevin]

Yeah. But also, she's Hot Girl of the Week because just had a birthday and engaged to someone who I love just as equally. Dude, so.

[Sophie]

Because I bet her fiance. I bet she. She's living the best life considering she gets, like, best food made for her all the time.

[Kevin]

She. I think she did a TikTok last year, if I remember correctly. That was, like, everything my fiance. It was probably girlfriend at the time. Everything my girlfriend made for me. And it was just a video of Tess handing her all the plates. Oh, like, like, ramen with, like, homemade dumplings. Like, tomahawk steak with, like. Dude. Yeah. Just unreal. I can only imagine.

[Sophie]

I feel like you're a pretty good cook, though. Like, when you do you learn a lot from her or not really.

[Kevin]

No, absolutely. But, like, I also. She chops, like, she's really good at chopping. I just, like, do some things. You just do the way you have been doing it your whole life.

[Sophie]

But you're also, like, not a professional. Like, it makes sense why you don't.

[Kevin]

I made. I made breakfast today. I did a little egg scramble with some homemade sausage links that some I got sent.

[Sophie]

I made homemade pizzas.

[Kevin]

So good. Gluten free Ubereats actually sent me, like, casserole ingredients to just like, be cute with roses. Oh, yeah, just like.

[Sophie]

Do you have those too? Do you want to go grab them?

[Kevin]

I. I've gotten up too much.

[Sophie]

I know. I saw you look over there. You're like, so get them. Yeah.

[Kevin]

But, yeah. So that's my hot girl. You're up.

[Sophie]

Okay. My hot girl of the week. I know we talked about earlier, but it has to be my Pilates instructor. Her name's Taylor. She is. Yeah, she's a freaking beast. Her. Her pretty much husband and her have the cutest kid named Halo. Oh, my gosh. So cute. She comes to our classes sometimes, but she kicks my ass and I feel so good. So I'm just shouting out Taylor for getting me into shape.

[Kevin]

Taylor, this is my psa. Don't take it easy on Sophie, okay?

[Sophie]

She doesn't listen to this the other day, so we talk, we chat the entire time. Because I do kind of private lessons and she messed up the springs last time and I was doing these abs and I'm like, wow. Like, I know I took a couple days off, but, like, I felt like I couldn't do anything. And she goes, oh, my gosh, I can't even do that. And she's like a professional Pilates person, but we get yapping and we kind of get distracted.

[Kevin]

But she's the okay I always love in yoga or Pilates when they come and like, they just touch your. Your spine ever so nice. And you just know, like, going to be okay. Like, they just help you, like, get situated and like, lower this tuck in here. Like, blah, blah, blah. Like, here's this.

[Sophie]

That doesn't happen. Where are you going?

[Kevin]

Just around.

[Sophie]

Love that. Maybe I need to go try there,

[Kevin]

Kev. What else do we have?

[Sophie]

Yeah, what do we got?

[Wes]

So we can turn to some headlines here. Okay, guys, so this has been making the rounds. To slide in the DMs or not to slide. So Team USA hockey hero Jack Hughes and pop singer Tate McRae are exclusive. He slimmed the DMs and it worked out. Also, Cameron Brink recently shared her love story with her fiance, Ben Felter. And Ben said he sent an email instead of sending them, and that seemed to work. So what do you guys think? Sliding DM'S crazy. Yes, no emails. How are we feeling?

[Kevin]

I just opened a DM that says here to shoot my shot in parentheses and probably miss. I'm not good at ball. How weirdly specific.

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[Sophie]

Yes, Doug West. You earn easy rewards with Venmo Stash.

[Kevin]

So you're saying even stuff like buying midnight snacks can earn cash back rewards.

[Sophie]

Small returns, big energy with Venmo Stash you can get up to 5% cash back at your fave brands. Just pick a bundle of your go tos to shop with your Venmo debit card and earn cash back at them. And you're free to mix up things. You can easily swap out your bundle of brands every 30 days. Earn more cash when you do more with Stash. Venmo Stash terms and exclusions apply. Max $100 cash back per month. See Terms at Venmo Me Stash terms

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[Kevin]

Lenovo also Tate McRae and Jackie's been dating for like a while. I feel like have they she was spotted like right after she broke up with the kid Laroi and was like Walking around New York, and I remember being like, I was like a devil's player out of all the cool people in New York.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

A dev. But he's. He's a beast. I mean, he won us a gold medal. So. Yeah, I'm pro. I'm pro DM sliding. There's no harm. Just don't be we. Don't be creepy. Don't be a weirdo. Actually, here's a tip. Pro tip. So, bucks, this is what you do. Okay.

[Sophie]

Oh, God.

[Kevin]

You don't DM and say, like, hey. Or like, what are you doing? Or like, a cheesy pickup line. Wait for the moment you have something in common with somebody.

[Sophie]

A story when you're. Call it out.

[Kevin]

So, like, if they're. If they're in Portugal, you say, I was at a wedding in Portugal. Go to blah, blah, blah, restaurant. And then you're, like, not being a creepy fucking weirdo, and it feels like a natural occurrence to reach out to somebody.

[Sophie]

No, you're pro. But that's, like, common sense. Like, don't be weird.

[Kevin]

No, it's not, dude. Guys are. The guys are so bad.

[Sophie]

Why? Girls, we should do a segment and just go through our weird dms.

[Kevin]

Oh, I mean, I could do that for hours.

[Wes]

Hit us with one now. So he. Wes just shared one.

[Kevin]

I get DMS about Sophie all the time, dude.

[Sophie]

I get put in these. Like, I don't. You know how you have to, like, go. Do you go to your requested.

[Kevin]

Yeah, but it's so, so hard to get there. Why? You have to, like, scroll down and. Oh.

[Sophie]

Ah.

[Kevin]

Guys, these dms. Someone just said casserole king on a building, and it's a picture of me and Sophie.

[Sophie]

Dude, that's dope. That is so funny.

[Kevin]

What? Wow.

[Sophie]

Dude, I don't even say I haven't. You should say that.

[Kevin]

This is who sent it. Megan Bark. Megan Burkaki. I'm just gonna say Megan. It's Megan.

[Sophie]

Just Meg. Yeah.

[Kevin]

All right, Meg. Good looks.

[Sophie]

Casserole King. I love that. That makes me happy. All right, friends, quick food update. Arby's just rolled out something new, and it's honestly kind of ridiculous.

[Kevin]

Yeah, the mean three box is hitting the streets for $7.99. Soph, walk them through it.

[Sophie]

Okay, step one, you pick your sandwich. Classic roast beef, crispy chicken, or the new crispy fish. All solid, no bad decisions here.

[Kevin]

And then Arby's keeps the lineup coming. You get the curly fries, the mozzarella sticks, and a peach cobbler roll, which,

[Sophie]

by the way, that peach Cobbler roll might be the sleeper star of the whole box. I'm just saying.

[Kevin]

Oh, and they didn't forget the drink either. So. Yeah, it's called meat in three, but you're actually rolling out with five items,

[Sophie]

five things for 7.99. And it's all those classic Arby's favorites you already know and love.

[Kevin]

So whether it's lunch, dinner, or you just need something that actually fills you

[Sophie]

up, the Meat in three box is your go to move. What were we even talking about? Oh, sliding in the dm. No, I think nowadays, especially if you're not in the same area, go slide it. And I think that's totally fine. But I think I would have more respect for people who come up in person. No.

[Kevin]

Yeah, but you want people, you want people pulling up on you like, like anywhere but a bar.

[Sophie]

I mean, if you're at a bar, you're at a bar. I'm just saying. So many people hide behind social media, but like, you want like, what are you like in real life? But I don't, I'm not, I am not opposed to sliding in the DMs, slide in those DMs.

[Wes]

I actually think that's a great follow up question because so if you say you like the in person exchanges. So like, you know a lot of people now, sometimes they don't be drinking.

[Sophie]

Right?

[Wes]

So like, if it's not, if it's not a bar, where else is it acceptable? Like, is it acceptable at the gym?

[Kevin]

No.

[Wes]

A lot of people.

[Kevin]

No.

[Sophie]

Why, Wes, you feel strongly about that?

[Kevin]

Even guys who try to like be friends at the gym, I'm like, don't talk to me. I see so many guys hit on girls at the gym and I'm like, leave her the alone, dude. And I just feel like as a girl you'd feel like kind of vulnerable because there's always going to be more men in the gym and you're wearing like athletic clothes which are sometimes just by nature more revealing. I just, I would not want to. I would hate working out if every time I went to work out, some fucking douchebag and a tank top and headphones was like, like, need help, like getting your weights? I see it every day and it's miserable. When I lived in Las Vegas, the dudes like the. Everyone just like, it was like, everyone was just like making out in the gym. And I was like, what? What the fuck is going on here? Not actually, but like, everyone was flirting.

[Sophie]

Dude, can I say something?

[Kevin]

Can we not?

[Sophie]

I. I'm so glad that you Actually kind of said this because dude, it is like people don't even work out. Like everything is just like show how big your ass is. Even though it's a BBL or it's. It's shot up with shots like show your. Your fake tits. Like. And all these guys. Yeah, same.

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sophie]

No, but for real, like I'm just like, do we. I think I like more of a grimy gym. Like I like a. Like we're one that you can like really get after and like sweat and it's like it's not based on. You're like. It's not sexualized. Everything is so sexualized here.

[Kevin]

It's like so. That tracks like so hardcore.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

The gym I go to now is actually very. It's not. Try hard and it's not a good tweeter. Some pussy gym. It's like everyone, everyone does their shit, gets out and it's like 50, 50 guys girl. It's like it's just a good shout out temple gym in West Village.

[Sophie]

Oh, speaking of gyms though, when I was up there last week with you,

[Kevin]

you went to the one in mid. Was it in midtown, like where you were?

[Sophie]

Yeah, but they said there's multiple locations that have like a bunch of pickleball courts. I like.

[Kevin]

This is like too crowded.

[Sophie]

Yeah, but I do, I do like how they have like saunas and. What's the other one?

[Kevin]

Steam room.

[Sophie]

Steam room. I prefer the steam room.

[Kevin]

I actually used to have in my old apartment. I had an in home sauna, which was an in home steam. And I think I might order another one.

[Sophie]

Wait, I would love to have Kevin.

[Kevin]

Oh. Oh, yeah. Let's get two of those sent.

[Sophie]

Do we have any company that would give us two saunas?

[Kevin]

Sauna box, shout out. Sauna box.

[Sophie]

We. No, we would. We would use the shit out of that sauna box.

[Wes]

Okay. Do live pod from in the saunas.

[Sophie]

Which is. I. Hey, I'm all for that. For real.

[Kevin]

One time I got a bloody nose in my sauna and I like usually keep the lights down, but I couldn't. So I couldn't feel it and I walked out. It been just. I just been bleeding on myself for like 10 minutes. My whole body. I looked like I was in a horror movie. I better say daddy.

[Wes]

It was scared the out of.

[Sophie]

Well, there go. There goes that partnership.

[Wes]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Yes. This is what we'll do with it.

[Sophie]

Nice. Good.

[Wes]

Although I will. I will say now that we're on the topic of saunas, so. So Wes, you don't go to, like, gym saunas anymore, do you? Or do you still do that?

[Kevin]

No, there's. There's one infrared in my gym that's. It's outside the locker room. So it's unisex. So no, you're not, like, naked and anyone can use it. But infrareds to me, don't get hot. Like, they don't get hot.

[Sophie]

I agree.

[Kevin]

And I. I want to leave this on and feel like my whole insides were, like, sprinkled, sprinklered out of my body. I don't feel like refreshed walking out of an infrared. I want to be like, I want to sweat.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I want to.

[Sophie]

I want to sweat.

[Kevin]

Squeeze.

[Wes]

Like a sweatsuit.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Yeah. Well, I was gonna say, like, just like the. The older dudes who use songs like, at the ymca, it'd be like. So I don't know if you know this, but, like, dropping trowel has been, like, grandfathered in. So everyone's just going naked. Full. Yeah, yeah, full. Full birthday suit.

[Kevin]

Except.

[Wes]

Except for me and probably the gen zers. But, you know, we just have to accept the quality of life that it is.

[Sophie]

And we just walk in there, just naked, no towel, nothing.

[Kevin]

They couldn't turn. It's slowly happening.

[Wes]

I, like, stop caring. I'm like, I don't fucking care.

[Kevin]

I don't know.

[Sophie]

That's actually kind of funny. Just a towel.

[Kevin]

Just a towel is a great way. All right, squad, listen up. I've basically had my JLab earbuds glued to my ears lately. Flights, workouts, quick coffee runs. They're just a part of the routine now.

[Sophie]

Dude, the battery. I swear, I keep waiting for them to die and it just doesn't happen. I honestly can't remember the last time I even charged them.

[Kevin]

And the sound is legit, too. Super clear, loud when you want it. It doesn't get all distorted when you crank the volume.

[Sophie]

I've also been rocking their over ear headphones on flights, which is clutch. It's noise canceling and comfortable.

[Kevin]

Yeah, that's the thing I like about JLab. You're getting all the premium features you want without paying some premium price.

[Sophie]

So whether I'm at the gym, traveling, or just walking around listening to music or a podcast, they've got something that fits the moment.

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[Sophie]

So look for the blue box at Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and more. Or use code something on jlab.com for 20% off your order.

[Wes]

World Baseball Classic, it's been drama, just non stop, back to back. Every game, every country, they're going hard. But it's also been a great battleground for bad blood against former teammates. Cal Rally, Randy Riz Arena.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Wes]

Going at it back and forth.

[Kevin]

I have such a hard time believing that he wouldn't shake his hand, his own teammate's hand in the World Baseball Classic. But apparently they both are, like, saying you to each other.

[Sophie]

Now.

[Kevin]

It's either like, really good gamesmanship to make people care, or they like. Or they. It means that much. I like, I don't know. Like, Sophie, if you played, let's say, this Olympics, women's basketball and you're playing against a teammate, say, Lexi's like, fucking Canadian.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

You would dap, you would dap her up before the game, dude.

[Sophie]

Absolutely. We'd probably go get dinner the night before. Like, we'd hang out. You do that now. That's what I'm saying. Like, what are these guys known for?

[Kevin]

They. They made the fucking ale alcs together.

[Sophie]

No, I, Yeah, I, I, I find that hard to believe, honestly.

[Kevin]

Wow. So apparently. So apparently Rosarina went up to shake his hand, said, good to see you, and Cal Raleigh said, shove it up your ass. And now Rosarina saying, go to hell off. That's right. I can't even believe it.

[Sophie]

And they're like teammates. Like teammates.

[Kevin]

Yeah. They both play for the Mariners, but Rosarena is playing for Mexico in the World Baseball Classic, and Cal Raleigh is playing for the usa.

[Sophie]

That's still weird.

[Kevin]

I think it's a little weird, too. And I love the idea of, like, giving each other, but, like, dab up your boy. Like, what?

[Sophie]

Yeah, I don't like that.

[Kevin]

It's like a little try hard.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I don't like that at all, really, either.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Wes]

And they're about to see each other, like, in a few weeks.

[Kevin]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They literally have. Bro, they'll go, they'll go straight from this to the regular season.

[Sophie]

Ew. Yeah, that. I don't like how that's sitting with me at all.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Sophie]

Okay.

[Kevin]

I'm glad we agree.

[Sophie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

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[Wes]

Okay, one more headline here. Jason Tatum made his return over 290 days. Former Tornado kills 15 points in the comeback. Played 27 minutes and they won. Just your guys reaction to something like this obviously is like a medical marvel. Obviously modern science is like change what you could do in the game. But he's one of the game's greatest players. Suffered a catastrophic injury and now he's already back hooping. So what are your guys thoughts?

[Kevin]

Well, first things first, any Missouri athlete will get nothing but but love and support on this podcast. So nothing but love. I get nervous Achilles. I don't, I just don't remember Achilles injuries being a thing until like the last like three years. Now you hear about him so much. So scary.

[Sophie]

Well, it used to be like acl, that was like the huge thing. And then like now it's the frickin

[Kevin]

Achilles in football too. Not just basketball, but basketball. Like yeah, in pickleball, 27 minutes sounds standard.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I just think it's. I mean you don't ever want to see anyone get injured but let alone like a star of the game. And I feel like a lot of the stars last year in the NBA got injured within Achilles, which is insane to me. So I don't know, I think it's really cool to see anyone come back from an injury. It doesn't matter what it, what it is, who it was. I think just the grind of rehab and all that. Like yeah, I think congrats. It's cool. And he killed it came back and still did that Say less. Say I didn't.

[Kevin]

I did an interview with Jason like my like first month at complex and we just talked about Emo's pizza and something else.

[Sophie]

St. Louis dude, kind of like a quiet, reserved guy.

[Kevin]

Super quiet. But he loves St. Louis. Oh he would. He would die for St. Louis.

[Sophie]

Yeah, I know.

[Kevin]

He like doesn't wear, he like won't wear Boston. Like he won't wear Red Sox stuff. He only wears Cardinal stuff. He is like if you're from St. Louis, he. You should hold on tight to that guy cuz he is so pure.

[Sophie]

Yeah, he really is.

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[Sophie]

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