Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Episode: "Show Me Something – WNBA star Sophie Cunningham pays homage to John Cena & wants in on WWE"

Release Date: December 17, 2025
Hosts: Sophie Cunningham, Wes
Guest/Appearance: Kevin (recurring segment)

Overview

This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" (Show Me Something edition) is a lively, candid sports roundtable blending football, personal stories, and nostalgic pop culture. WNBA star Sophie Cunningham and co-host Wes banter about everything from Kansas City Chiefs football turmoil and Midwest sports culture to wild NFL fan traditions and a heartfelt ode to WWE legend John Cena. The duo sprinkle in their own athletic experiences, friendly ribbing, and some wishful thinking about joining the wrestling world.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sophie’s WWE Roots & A Future Wrestling Dream

• Sophie opens up about WWE nostalgia, sharing childhood wrestling memories and John Cena’s influence on her generation.
  • "I grew up on that WWE, baby. Me and Lindsay used to like wrestle all the time and like our parents would have to call it... John Cena was just the absolute best man." — Sophie (03:01, 44:33)
• Wants in on WWE: Reveals she’s been approached about WWE post-basketball and jokes about a potential superstar tag team with Wes.
  • "Maybe after I retire or off season, maybe us two will be the new WWE duo." — Sophie (03:28, 44:55)

2. Midwest Winters, Holiday Vibes, and Romance

• The pair riff on city vs. rural winter, the ‘romance’ of New York snow, and a running joke about Wes and influencer Tinx sparking listener DMs.
  • "Being in the city when it snows, it's like very romantic." — Sophie (04:24)
  • "I got a lot of DMs saying you two should date." — Wes (04:47)

3. Bringing Sports Into Pop Culture

• Announce plans to bring more guests representing their “different worlds” and solicit fan suggestions for future episodes (06:26–06:56).
  • "That’s the whole point of this podcast is bringing sports into pop culture...these guests are going to be kind of a huge hit for us. I'm excited for it, honestly." — Sophie (06:38)

4. Addressing Tragedy & Sports Community

• Somber reflection on tragedy in Australia and at Brown University and the role of sport and community in responding to dark times.
  • "It shows the good in people, though...never want to see that." — Sophie (07:48)

5. Chiefs’ Playoff Elimination & Midwest Loyalty

• Dive into Kansas City Chiefs' shocking playoff elimination and Patrick Mahomes’ ACL injury.
• Insightful back-and-forth on the tension between franchise loyalty, aging rosters, and maximizing Mahomes’ prime:
  • "If you hang on to people a little too long, I think that it's okay...they deserve everything." — Wes (10:58)
  • "You do not want to lose out on this freaking human who is phenomenal." — Sophie (12:27)

6. The Case of the Surprise Colts’ QB & Respect for Vets

• React to 44-year-old Philip Rivers returning, balancing the nostalgia and fairness to other QBs.
  • "Just kills me...the other quarterbacks who've been working their asses off all year and then they just randomly bring in this...it just kills me." — Sophie (15:35)
  • "He’s been keeping the gears turning." — Wes (15:56)

7. Personal Athletic Anecdotes

• Sophie recounts her high school football days and her coach’s protective nature; humorous exchange around her experience as a kicker and taking potential tackles.
  • "If I'm your coach, I'm telling you, get in there. Get some dirt on your jersey." — Wes (22:22)
  • "Now, if I had to think about that, I'd be like, I just don't know...I just don't want to get hurt." — Sophie (22:34)

8. Adidas Headquarters Visit & Sportswear Culture

• Sophie gives an insider’s look at the Adidas campus in Portland:
  • "Their campus is beautiful...coffee shops, gyms, soccer field. I was so impressed." — Sophie (25:36)
  • Both agree Adidas excels in streetwear, not just sports.

9. Montana State vs. Montana Historic Rematch

• Wes’s excitement over the rare postseason rivalry game, inviting Sophie for the wild event.
  • "People are saying it's supposed to be the biggest event in the history of Montana...the city will literally burn to the ground." — Wes (28:00)

10. Notre Dame Controversy: Ducking the Bowl Game

• Honest, unfiltered takes on Notre Dame declining to play in a bowl game.
  • "That is the most pussy fucking shit I've ever heard. It's so fucking whack." — Wes (30:58)
  • "Be grateful that you still have a bowl game and go kick someone's ass." — Sophie (32:00)

11. The Drunkest NFL Fanbases Survey—Skepticism and Tailgate Tales

• Segment led by Kevin: Surprise survey results and skepticism about accuracy (Cardinals #1, Chiefs #27, Packers #32).
  • "Throw this whole list out. Chiefs, 27. Throw it out." — Wes (36:06)
  • Extended banter about Chiefs, Bills Mafia, and tailgating:
    "Shout out Bills Mafia...the legend himself." — Kevin (37:32–43:45)
    • Includes a story about classic Bills fan ketchup-and-mustard antics.

12. John Cena’s Retirement & His Cultural Reach

• Kevin notes John Cena’s WWE exit, and Sophie pays homage.
  • "He did a lot for my childhood. So I'd like to thank...thank him." — Sophie (46:59)
• Wes and Kevin discuss Cena’s acting career, citing movies like Trainwreck and Vacation Friends.
  • "He's the boyfriend who is always in his feelings and he's so buff...he's so funny in that." — Wes (47:19)

13. Timothée Chalamet: Underground Rap Rumor

• Quick-hit headline: debate on Chalamet’s rumored alter ego as UK rapper “SD Kid.”
• Joking references to “White Boy of the Year” and memes about his college game day sports picks.
  • "Highlight of my career is he wore one of the bandanas...someone posted a picture of us side by side." — Wes (48:27–49:09)

14. World Cup Hype – Messi, Ronaldo, and Family Dreams

• News that Arrowhead Stadium (Kansas City) will host 2026 World Cup matches; excitement over a potential Messi vs. Ronaldo clash.
• Sophie’s soccer crush:
  • "He was my childhood crush, Ronaldo. Oh, he was. Him and David Beckham. Oh, so hot." — Sophie (52:46)
• Wes shares a sentimental wish to bring his 97-year-old Oma to see Austria play at Arrowhead.
  • "Every fiber of my body wants to get Omah to Arrowhead." — Wes (54:10)

15. Picks to Win the World Cup

• Both hosts predict France, but default to supporting the USA on principle.
  • "My real pick will be France...but for the sake of the pod, you're going USA." — Sophie & Wes (55:43–55:49)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On WWE future:
  "Maybe after I retire or off season, maybe us two will be the new WWE duo." — Sophie (03:28, 44:55)

• On Chiefs’ dynasty:
  "Anyone who would ever doubt Mahomes, Andy Reid, Brett Veach, the whole organization that got this team to fucking six Super Bowls. Like, don't be an idiot." — Wes (11:34)

• On Notre Dame’s bowl decision:
  "That is the most pussy fucking shit I've ever heard. It's so fucking whack." — Wes (30:58)

• On John Cena:
  "He did a lot for my childhood. So I'd like to thank him." — Sophie (46:59)

• On the survey about drunken NFL fans:
  "Throw the whole list out. Packers, like a top three. Tailgating and like, historic fan base. Throw this whole list out." — Wes (36:06)

• Heartfelt wish:
  "Every fiber of my body wants to...get Omah to Arrowhead to watch Austria play a soccer game." — Wes (54:10)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:01–03:47| Sophie’s WWE childhood, John Cena fandom | | 06:38–06:56| Bringing sports into pop culture, teasing future guests | | 08:43–13:45| Chiefs' season collapse, Mahomes’ prime, and franchise strategy | | 15:02–15:56| 44-year-old Colts QB, Philip Rivers' comeback | | 22:27–22:34| Sophie’s high school football, coaching anecdotes | | 25:36–26:16| Sophie’s take on Adidas streetwear culture | | 28:00–30:38| Montana–Montana State rematch, playoff fever | | 30:58–32:43| Notre Dame controversy, bowl snub outrage | | 34:53–37:32| NFL fanbase "drunkest fans" discussion with Kevin | | 42:07–44:07| Bills Mafia ketchup ritual story, Wes’s media origin | | 44:33–45:04| John Cena’s WWE legacy and Sophie’s tribute | | 48:08–49:09| Timothée Chalamet rapper rumor and college game day story | | 52:46–54:10| World Cup at Arrowhead, Ronaldo, Beckham, and Oma’s dream | | 55:43–56:31| World Cup winner picks: France vs. USA, French anecdotes |

Style & Tone

Casual, conversational, playful, and a bit irreverent. Sophie and Wes are unfiltered, poking fun at themselves and each other while demonstrating a genuine love for sports, nostalgia, and cultural connection. Frequent digressions and banter create a lively, “hang out with friends” vibe throughout the episode.

Useful For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode offers a blend of current sports debate, nostalgic pop culture, and future plans for the show. Sophie’s playful nod to joining the WWE, hot takes on sports loyalty, and stories from her own athletic journey build personality and relatability, while Kevin’s pop-in segments add contemporary trivia and headlines. The hosts’ candor and unique perspectives make it engaging for any fan curious about the intersection of top sports stories and broader culture.